hill. >> from the right i'm s.e. cupp. erin burnett starts right now. next breaking news in the disappearance of flight 370. the fbi analyzing evidence from the two men carrying stolen passports. the passengers with tickets purchased by an iranian middle man? what is the biggest weapon president obama has against vladimir putin? and live to the deck of a coast guard ice breaker. let's go outfront. good evening. i'm erin burnett. tonight we begin with breaking

news, the fbi tonight running through the database of thumb prints for the two passengers who used stolen passports to board the missing malaysia air jet. what is incredible is that it is three days and still no sign at all of any parts of flight 370 or of the 239 people on board that plane. the search is unprecedented. right now 40 ships from ten countries are all searching and still not even the smallest sign of the missing jet. search and rescue officials say they are going to expand the search area. earlier there had been sightings of oil slicks and what looked like a yellow life vest but all completely unrelated to the plane. still there are so many questions unanswered. beginning with this one. how does a boeing 777 just disappear without a trace?

who are the two men believed to have used stolen passports to board that plane and was this an act of terror? we are getting answers to some of the questions tonight with lake-breaking developments on the two stolen passports and how those men got on flight 370. pamela brown has been covering the story. malaysian officials shared with the u.s. government photoeoes of the two men. what else have we learned? >> investigators had leads to work with. as you see the fbi is running through the database thumb prints of the two passengers carrying the stolen passports. the thumb prints were taken at the airport check in and shared with intelligence and police agencies around the world by the malaysian government. a law enforcement official says it will be running everything relevant shared against records, cases, images, print and databases and coordinating with other agencies to try to piece

together who these men are and whether they are affiliated with the terrorer group of any kind. important to note there is no indication terrorism is a factor. according to a law enforcement source i spoke with many times people using stolen passports are your garden criminals such as drug smugglers and more people than you realize try to board planes with lost or stolen passports. >> it could have been something totally unrelated to terrorism. what else do we know about how the two men got the tickets and the seemingly bizarre link. >> malaysian officials saying the two men are asian. they were originally booked to fly to europe on separate flights but the booking expired so they were rebooked on the same flight. a middle man paid for the

tickets in cash we learned. two days later the flight went down. there is still no sign of the wreckage. until it is found we won't know what exactly happened. we are not much closer to knowing what happened thou than 48 hours ago. >> it is incredible in this day and age. it is amazing. thank you very much pamela. i want to bring in the former chief of staff for the department of defense and cia, jeremy bash. you both know so much about the kind of situation. it has been three days, almost to the minute. this headline first crossed at least that we were aware of at 7:30 eastern time on friday. what do you think happened? >> who knows at this point? this has to be a parallel investigation.

either an accident or possibly a criminal act. >> that was another situation where there were real questions as you were going through it as to whether it was foul play or an accident and eventually ruled an accident. two passengers with stolen passports on board and a link that an iranian man happened to be the one who bought the ticket for all cash. do you think foul play is a possibility? >> you can't rule anything out. first the ultimatet destination appears to be europe, wasn't that they wanted to go to china. the final destination was amsterdam and one passenger copenhagen and frankfurt. so many terrorist plots directed towards western europe that we have to be thinking about that. that is what i'm sure officials are thinking about right now. >> go ahead. >> the second thing is obviously kuala lumpur has been a transit point for terrorism in the past. two of the 9/11 hijackers

ultimately were surveilled by the cia in 2000 in kuala lumpur, malays malaysia. they made their way to los angeles and san diego before they board the flights ont 9/11. >> a lot of people saying malaysia not a terror center. what about the group calling themselves china martyrs brigade. they claimed responsibility. would there have been a legitimate claim of responsibility by now if this were an act of terror? >> you would think that a terrorist organization would want to get a lot of propaganda value and claim responsibility. this groupt that you mentioned is not one that has been on the radar of u.s. intelligence officials in the past. there have been concerns about separatest groups operating out of china.

this is possible this is something we have to look into. this is a little strange. at this point since we can't rule anything in we can't rule anything out. >> what about the issue of whether a group would have claimed responsibility at this point. former inspector general said this could have been a trial run for a larger attack. does that sound likely to you. if there were such a thing, does that explain why there had not been terroristt chatter before this and no claim of responsibility? >> i'm sure this is something the fbi is actively looking at and exploring. and it certainly would not be unusual looking back at 9/11 and the practice runs that were used in the united states and the training at that time. >> jeremy, where do you think u.s. intelligence is focusing right now? given this was on a malaysian airplane in southeast asia, how much information do they have?

are they getting full information? >> i think u.s. intelligence is scouring and taking the descriptions of the individuals who boarded the aircraft with fake passports from the video surveillance at kuala lumpur and running against all databases of known terror organizations and trying to match descriptions and working closely with malaysian authorities to see if there is other information about those individuals, where they were staying at kuala lumpur, where they may have been at a hotel, run into the ground every detail. >> do you find it strange that the tickets were purchased for cash? i suppose that could be a drug smuggling scenario, as well, for sure, as well as other things. these were purchased for cash all the way to europe. that seems important. >> the unfortunate thing is that these aircraft were not equipped

with deployable recorders so that were there an accident we would have the information immediately as to the location of the aircraft. that really should be unacceptable to the international civilavization organization which has been looking at this issue for now almost a decade. >> what do you mean deployable? not matter where the plane crashed we would have access to the black box? >> technology used on our aircraft in the military. it is a deployable black box that eejects at the time of any impact and designed to float on the ocean and send a signal of its location. it contains the flight data recorder as well as cockpit voice recorder. it is a crime that that is not on all of our commercial aircraft flying overseas and over water.

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with a mortgage that's engineered to amaze. thanks, "g." we are following breaking news. the fbi running through the database of thumb prints for the passengers who used stolen pass ports to board the missing plane that vanished three days ago. there is absolutely no sign of the boeing 777 or of the 239 passengers on board. the plane took off from kuala lumpur at 241 saturday morning. the flight pad was 2,000 miles. around 2:40 a.m. air traffic controllers had the last contact with the plane somewhere over the sea between malaysia and vietnam. what happened next?

tom foreman is in washington. what are the possibilities of what could happen at 35,000 feet? >> this jet took off without incident and flew to cruising altitude of 35,000 feet and vanished without warning, of course, a terrorist bomb can make it happen. radical equipment failure can do the same thing. indeed, if a door or window failed at altitude it could cause explosive depressurization and that could look very much like a bomb. the pressure outside is so much lower than it is inside of a plane, that sudden change from a breach could cause the plane to start tearing apart. even if that didn't happen that opening would start drawing toward it everything in the plane, books, papers, blankets, dust twirling through the air, a tremendous roar and the oxygen would be sucked out, too. everybody would be grabbing for the masks. on top of which it is minus 66

degrees fahrenheifahrenheit. it would turn into a freezing dense fog throughout the entire cabin. and all of this can happen much faster than i have told you about it here in an explosive event within a half second or less. that makes a huge difference in the cockpit. that means the pilots have eight to 12 seconds in which they need to get on their masks and get control of the plane before they suffer some sort of impaired judgment, might be having vision problems and could lose the ability to concentrate. remember, this is not just about losing oxygen but about the shock of a massive pressure change which could be very much like an explosion and could absolutely bring a plane down. >> that was hard to watch. joining me now on skype bob baer. you saw tom's reporting. it is pretty frightening and

that wall makes it sobering to watch. does this look like the work of an explosive device or windows popping or something else? >> i'll tell you what, we will have to wait until we find the wreckage. that will find us for certain or actually a witness to this. in the meantime, a bomb would have the same effect. for instance, put against the skin with a particularly lethal explosive like petn would break the plane apart. a lot of the bombs are detonated by barometric switches. let's take the scenario in complete speculation, one of the people thinks he is carrying something else, gets on the airplane and puts bagging in the overhead and it reaches an altitude of let's say 35,000 feet, explodes and the plane comes apart. these bombs have been around since the 80s.

they are almost impossible to detect. we know the al qaeda master bomb maker has been practicing with these things. he did with a cargo bomb discovered thanks to a source. is it possible that he was, you know, testing the system out of kuala lumpur and maybe hitting an onward flight? always possible but no evidence for it. >> then you start to think of all of the people involved and what we know about them and it is speculation. that is what people are going to do until there is conclusive evidence. at 35,000 feet -- i'm looking for the right word here, but melt in the air. if they are looking in the right place and i know that is a big if, is it a shock to you that they have found nothing, not a floating life jacket, not anything? >> we haven't even got into a 777 what it would look like exploded. would it sink to the bottom of

the ocean right away? an engineer would have to tell you that. i can tell you it would break into many small pieces and be very difficult to find. >> how quickly would that happen? it sounds like tom is reporting could happen within seconds, literally really. >> it would be instantaneous. people would be thrown out. what they can tell you is people thrown out of their seats, clothes come off, die almost instantly or go into shock. and biggest piece of the airplane as we saw is fairly small. it could sink to the bottom. remember with pan amthat was supposed to go off over the ocean so there would be no evidence of it. still to come more of our coverage. richard quest spoke to the co-pilot of the flights weeks before it vanished. two years after the murder of trayvon martin protesters and lawmakers call for change

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we're following developing story. the crucial question is who was at the controls when something went wrong. we learned co-pilot just switched to flying 777. he landed one last month. you see him on the right. cnn's richard quest was with him and captured that on camera. you have been covering this industry for a long time. it is something eerie about someone you spoke to being involved. >> makes him moderately experienced first afser. he was transitioning to the 777 fleet. what was interesting is this is one of his fourth or fifth landing on the plane. what i was keen to ask him is how, actually, the plane itself

handled compared to the simulator. because very often pilots will do the majority of their training in the simulatorer and then to the end move to the aircraft itself. he had a very experienced pilot next to him. and the same with the doomed aircraft 370. very experienced captain. >> you talk about the experience he had. you would think about the simulator question once you are flying with life and death in your hands versus simulator it is not the same thing. >> he had been flying for many years but now on a different type of equipment, a different type of aircraft. the simulator is very realistic. >> you covered the air france flight. >> 447. >> which exploded on the way to paris from brazil. so how similar is this search

and rescue from that one? i am curious about the issue with the oil slick and then a life jacket and a door and none related to the plane at all. are they looking at the right place? >> this is normal. air investigations and search and rescue isn't designed for 24 hour news. it is only just coming up to day light. so i am surprised by the fact that they were first of all looking on the western side of malaysia and then the eastern side of vietnam. now they have widened it to the middle of the gulf of thailand. if you know the route it was flying, you are left knwonderin do they know something we don't. we don't know. but i do know the waters are

shallow in the north of thailand. it is not that big of a body of water, a couple hundred miles across. they will find it. >> thank you very much. still to come, more of our coverage of flight 370. the families of the flight's passengers are desperate. why they still haven't getting answers. the world looks to president obama for a response in the crisis in ukraine. is it too late for action. and the great lakes like you have never seen before. ewe are going to go live on the deck of an ice breaker. we will show it to you coming up. so ally bank has a raise your rate cd

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more of our top story tonight on the missing malaysia airlines jet. three days after the jet disappeared without a jet with 239 passengers on board. planes and ships have so far failed to find the 777. 227 passengers, 12 crew, no answers. what are the families telling you? >> they have been advised by malaysian airlines and others that they should prepare for the worst. but there is no way for them to

prepare for this. they are coming on some additional flights being put out by malaysian airlines to bring the chinese from beijing here to kuala lumpur. remember, the chinese make up almost two-thirds of the victims who are aboard this aircraft. more than a dozen nationalities. to focus on the chinese, we don't see them when they get here. the families are kept away from the media. in beijing that is not the case. you can see on their faces the pain that is etched there, the agony, the agony of having lost someone, yes. the agony, ethough, of not knowing what has happened to them. this is a mystery that only deepens because there is no evidence of how their loved ones got on a flight and vanished into thin air. a lot of them coming here, a lot of them perhaps wanting to feel closer to loved ones. malaysian airlines say at some point they are going to take them to the crash site, to the

location of the jetliner when it is found. but, you know, thus far there is nothing to report. they are coming here. they are searching for their loved ones, perhaps. they are searching more than anything for answers. and the truth this morning here in kuala lumpur is that there are no answers here. we are still waiting for that to come as they expand the search area. we are hoping that they will get some answers. they will get some closure. erin. >> thank you very much. i want to bring in formert presidential candidate john huntsman. we don't know what happened to this plane yet. i want to emphasize our sources are waiting and possible the stolen passports related to smuggling operations instetd. wrote 777 crash chance for u.s.

to make common cause, befriend china. what is your reaction to that? >> well, thank you for having me. my reaction is this. we have a huge opportunity regardless of the outcome here, regardless of what is found to sure up the counter terrorism collaboration between the united states and china. we have tried in years past in terms of information sharing and intelligence sharing but haven't gotten far. this is a perfect opportunity to take stock of those groups that ought to be monitored and looked at and better understood where we have a capacity where they have cables and we ought to sure up that capability. i think we are well served not to jump to conclusion with regard to certain groups. it was a co-chair flight with respect to southern china airlines. therefore everything has to be on the table. china has experienced a bit of

domestic terrorism although it has been very regional until most recently where we have seen an incident in beijing, the jeep incident this last fall and certainly the attack by separatests at the train station last month. the capabilities of those who traditionally operated in the far eastern regions certainly are improving, but i think suggesting that they are in anyway involved in this would be well beyond operating profile and well beyond technical capabilities. >> you are saying obviously a huge opportunity from u.s. and china but at least from your understanding not something that the independence groups wouldn't be ready to do that. >> beyond their operating regional profile and beyond technical means at this point. >> i wanted to ask you something else you know a lot about. when you talk about china you

may say biggest strategic parterner, ally, foe might be russia with that border and they have a lot at stake. ukrainian prime minister coming to the united states tomorrow -- wednesday, i'm sorry. what should president obama do to diffuse the situation? is it possible? >> well, we have cards to play. i think when you get right down to the economic relationships that is where the focus ought to be. we are not going to go to war anytime soon with respect to crimea. we can sure up our alliances with nato. that has to be done. the set of relationships with europe have pretty much been left in the dust in recent years. that needs to work better. when you look at the natural gas trade in the region where half of russia's trade is with european partners and almost all of that is natural gas and all of those relationships are negotiated on a bilateral basis

whereas oil, for example, is pretty much determined and governed by a different type of market place, the united states would be very well served by putting together an lng, liqu y liquefied natural gas strategy which is to say exporting to europe and displacing trade that russia does which is the only thing to my mind that really does hurt putin who is trying to create a eurouation empire. >> you brought up the topic of natural gas. top importers are in europe. the united states, also as you say, in order to have liquid natural gas, we have to use ships and transport it. there is another issue besides time. that is should the united states be exporting something so

important. there are people who really think exporting the stuff is a bad idea. is he wrong? >> there are some who certainly feel that way. i would submit to you that we live in a free market economy. ewe are the leaders in terms of international trade. when we lead people tend to follow. if we remain isolated and protectionist the rest of the world tends to do that, as well. i think we are very well served by producing it, keeping the costs low, exporting for purposes of global stability because i think that is what we are getting out here. exporting lng as a means of promoting global stability which is exactly what would happen with respect to western europe. >> what about china? when you look at countries that buy from russia china is right up there. it is europe and china. is china going to say do what

you want in crimea? we don't care. >> they are concerned deep in what is happening in crimea. you don't talk about referendums without china going ballistic. it provides an opening for the united states maybe to up our game a little bit with the chinese on regional diplomacy. >> that is a really interesting point. record breaking ice bringing america's great lakes to a stand still tonight. that is tonight's number, 93%, how much of lake michigan is covered in ice at this moment. the last time a lake was this frozen was 1977. take a look at these satellite images from the past couple of weeks. ted rollens went out to see it and show it to you on a coast guard ice breaker. he is outfront. >> reporter: on board coast guard cutter mobile bay on the first day of what they call the

breakout. commander john stone and a crew of 20 have the daunting job of breaking through the near-record thick ice in wisconsin so these ships can start moving after a winter of hibernation. >> getting the shipping industry moving with all the goods we are carrying, coal, iron ore. >> reporter: last year more than 90 million tons of product moved through the great lakes. scheduled to leave this week, if it were a normal year it would get in through green bay. because the ice is so thick it will have to turn around and go south. today's mission is to not only clear a path to lake michigan but also to create a turning basin so the other ships can turn around. >> without us breaking a path out here and carving the turning base there is no way to leave the pier. >> more than 90% of the great lakes is covered in ice, the most in 35 years.

we shot this incredible aerial footage last week from above you can see how much work is ahead for the coast guard's fleet of ice breakers as the great lake shipping season begins. the best way to get through the ice is to ram into it with the mobile bay's 670 tons of weight. >> you combine horsepower and weight and force yourself on the ice and try to break the ice and force yourself through. >> reporter: it takes several hours but eventually the mobile bay is able to cut a new path to lake michigan. but unfortunately they were not able to cut a big enough area for the big ships to turn around. the ice was too thick. tomorrow reinforcements. a ship twice as big as the one we are on now will be here together they cut the area and get the ships out to lake michigan later this week. >> thank you very much.

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let's check in with anderson. >> top of the hour following major developments in the malaysia airlines flight 370. we will have the details. we will take a look at some of the 239 people who are missing and speak to the brothers of an american on board that flight. they are still holding out hope. an emotional day at the oscar pistorius trial. the blade runner became physical ill throwing up with autopsy details were revealed. we will take you inside the courtroom. we will have the latest on the situation in the ukraine. those stories plus the latest at the top of the hour. >> it's been two years after trayvon martin's death and protesters are still fighting

florida's stand your ground law. in fact the mothers of trayvon martin and jordan davis teamed up to protest against the stand your ground law. in a moment you will hear from a lady whose kid was killed by michael dunn because he was playing his music too loud. >> reporter: two years after the death of trayvon martin florida's controversial stand your ground law remains untouched. and in spite of demonstrations in the state capitol streets it may stay that way except for one unlikely partnership. >> what are you trying to change here? >> we are trying to make a very good law even better. >> republican florida state senator wrote stand your ground law. together the two are now pushing

to clarify the rules on who can be protected by stand your ground. would these changes to the law have saved trayvon martin's life? >> now that i think about it, yes. if george zimmerman followed the law in the amendments we are putting forward he wouldn't have gotten out of the car. trayvon martin would have gotten home and enjoyed his skittles and iced tea. >> reporter: the amendment requires law enforcement to create standard rules for neighborhood watch including training to avoid confrontations and also aims to clarify who is not protected by defining what it means to be the aggressor. >> the defense of stand your ground is not available if, in fact, you are the person who provokes the use of force. >> reporter: if your changes had had been in place george zimmerman would be in prison

now? >> yes. it would give the jury an opportunity to convict him. >> reporter: the amendment doesn't come close to a repeal. you still do not have a duty to retreat before using deadly force to defend yourself. trayvon martin's parents believe lives will still be lost. >> the amendment says that you can shoot and kill someone and not be held accountable. it is making our children feel unsafe. >> david, do the demonstrateers feel like they are making progress? we have heard so much about the law, a lot of people made it a cause to get rid of it, but it is still there. >> reporter: so many people we heard from today want this stand your ground law repealed. they feel like their efforts may have to be concentrating on the next elections and perhaps getting new state legislators in that are more sympathetic to their cause. >> thank you so much. david has been reporting on this since the beginning covering the

trayvon martin trial. earlier today i spoke with the mother of jordan davis and asked if she was pleased at the turnout at the rally. >> i was overjoyed. i didn't expect that many individuals would show. very, very pleased with the 18% wanted it revealed, 16% said it should be modified. those numbers have got to be frustrating for you. how are you going to get the support to change that law, to repeal that law? >> i think it's going to be a collective effort, i think there has to be a lot of mobilizing, coalition with organizations, of course, we have mayors against illegal guns, moms demand action. we have national action network, we have dream defenders. we have a lot of collective

organizations that are coming together now, and they are forcibly making the country look at the changes that need to be made with the law. so i think it's going to be a a matter of educating the public, educating the citizens, and how they can really get involved. >> the stand your ground wasn't used in the the defense of your son's trial or george zimmerman, if the law is repealed, how specifically do you think it would make a difference for boys like your son? >> i think definitely repealing the law makes a difference, because it shows the citizens of the united states that we care about the safety and the preservation of life for all individuals. i think what's happening now is that we have children that are afraid to walk the streets, everyone now says, you know, am i trayvon? am i jordan? can this happen to me? so repealing the law, most definitely i believe will make people believe they're much safer in society, and they're

able to carry on their lives without the fear of gun violence? >> and what about michael dunn, obviously expected to be retried on first degree murder charges for killing your son. how confident are you that he will be retried and convicted of that first degree murder charge? >> well, i have to believe that he will be convicted. of course, i won't be able to say what's in the juror's heads and their thoughts as they're deliberating over my son's charges, but i have to believe that enough is enough. i have to believe that the citizens of this country completely understand what's happening with the gun culture. i have to stand and believe that i know that there will be vindication for jordan. >> and last time we talked you were at the white house with the president. and, you know, we were talking about jordan and the context of the president's new initiative, my brother's keeper, to help young men of color, so they don't feel that people are looking at them funny when they're walking down the street, people assume they're up to no good. you were referred to by name by

the president, when we spoke then, you haven't yet spoken to him. at this time, have you talked to limb or anyone from the administration about that project? >> not as of yet. i hope that some day soon i will be able to talk with president obama and the administration about these initiatives. i would really love to be involved in that, and i think it's going to be very very big needed, well needed step in the country and i look forward to being able to be a part of that process. >> it was a pleasure to talk to lucia. take a look at this x-ray, what did this snake eat? jeanne moos is next. my sinuses are acting up and i've got this runny nose. i better take something. truth is, sudafed pe pressure and pain won't treat all of your symptoms. really? alka seltzer plus severe sinus fights your tough sinus symptoms plus your runny nose. oh what a relief it is ...and let in the dog that woke the man who drove to the control room

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>> what's the latest you're hearing about the possibility of terrorism and stolen passports? >> the latest we've received in the last hour, i'm told by a u.s. official that there are more and more indications that the loss of