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we will project a winner. thanks very much. remember, you can always follow us on twitter. 2003 tweet me at wolf blitzer. sit room, thanks very much for watching. i'm wolf blitzer in "the situation room." erin burnett outfront" starts right now. >> next, dramatic new information about ma laborer i can't believe airlines flight 370. the plane hundreds of miles off course before it vanished. questions tonight about who the co-pilot was letting into the cockpit. serious accusations that the cia is spying on congress. i'm going to ask the chairman of the house intelligence committee if it's true. new revelations in the oscar pistorius trial. friends are saying the blade runner has a very dangerous history with the guns. let's go "outfront." of good evening. i'm erin burnett. outfront, where is the malaysia airlines flight 370? new details tonight on the
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disappearance of the missing airliner. authorities are shifting the focus of the search hundreds of miles from that original flight path. tonight is, four days after that the flight went missing, there is still no sign of that the plane. we do know that the plane was way off course when it disappeared. this is according to a malaysian air force official. another significant development is that the cia director john brennan refused to rule out terrorism as a possible cause. first, the international search for any evidence, anything at all of this missing plane of the 239 people on board. now, here's what we know. i just want to show you, the passenger jet took off from kuala lumpur saturday about 12:41:00 a.m. started heading off towards beijing. about an hour into the flight, the transpoppeder stopped working or was turned off. it's unclear. at that point right after it was turned off, the jet changes course. flies back over the malaysian peninsula. and this is just on radar.
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2:40 a.m., radar lost track of the jet. now, just to give you a sense, radar is the only way they know where it was. the air force is saying well the tra transponder was on. this island is called pugh law per rack in the straits of malacca. this is the gateway between china and the middle east, the rest of the world. one of the busiest shipping lanes in the world. there are lots of ships in this water that could have seen something come into the water. it's a very narrow strait, only 500 miles between the malaysian coast and the indonesian island of sumatra. so how did this plane get so far off course? was it a hijacking? was it pilot error? was it terrorism? we begin our coverage with correspondent jim sciutto who spoke with the director of the cia john brennan today. what did he tell you? >> that all of those
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possibilities still require investigation. that they're interesting. the transponder going off. the change in direction. even for a time these people boarding the plane with stolen passports. that's now been eliminated. but the bottom line, he said, they have not ruled out terrorism. you know the clues are changing so quickly as he was giving this talk in washington, i looked down on my blackberry and saw the news had just come out the transponder had been turned off. i said we have this new information. does that increase your suspicion of terrorism. here's what he had to say. >> on this issue of the transponder, there are a number 6 very curious anomalies about all of this and it's still a mystery at this point. did it turn around. were the individuals with the stolen passports in any way involved? what about the transponder? why did it just disappear from the radar? there are a lot of unknowns at this point. so which leads to sort of ramp and the speculation what the
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reasons and causes of this are. at this point, we have to again be patient and wait and let the authorities continue to investigate. >> now, to be clear, u.s. officials continue to tell me and they will do this consistently they have no evidence at this point that this was an act of terror. but they are following down all these leads. for instance, when those men boarded the plane with the stolen passports, they checked their names against the u.s. terror database, found there was nos link to terrorism. they eliminate that as an explanation. there are still all the other unanswered questions. they're looking into those. the director as he said very clearly saying they haven't ruled out terrorism as a possible explanation. >> all right. jim, thank you very much. obviously, we need to emphasize not only has nothing ruled out but the situation and how we know it may change. you know, when things happen,ing the order in which they happened could be altered. i want to go to kuala lumpur. andrew, we were just looking at the strait of malacca. one of the busiest shipping lanes in the world.
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if the plane had gone down there, people say this strait is so busy, people should have seen it. what is the latest on this search? >> well, the search actually has been going on in the straits of malacca for two days. had had u.s. warships in there. they have had an inkling that there could have been something they need toe investigate in the straits. that will search is likely to ramp up a lot now. this happened at 2:40 in the morning. that was the last known contact. the information that cnn has been getting in kuala lump pur has come from a very senior royal air force executive and he has been saying to us that this is what happened, the plane was last seen just over this tiny little island, basically a rock in the middle of the straits. he won't give his name because he's not authorized to speak to the press but we're hearing lots and lots of theories as everyone is hearing lots of theories. one theory doing the rounds here
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is that with the catastrophic failure in electronics, it the pilots could have turned around to try to land somewhere. there are a few big air strips in that vicinity. if the plane had gone over the little island, it would have gone over a big tourist resort and could have landed there had. lots of unknowns at this stage. >> right. obviously, many, many questions. andrew, thank you very much. i want to bring in jeremy bash, former chief of staff at the department of defense and the cia. jeremy, you just heard andrew reporting from the ground that the plane may have been going back and circling. some might say why weren't the pilots radioing down. the cia director refusing to rule out terror. yesterday the u.s. government was leading it reporters away from terror as a possible cause. what does it tell you when you. you the it all together? >> first of all, we've got to figure out what we've excluded. we've excluded a cat tas
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tastrophic explosion on the plane and a mechanical failure. it was likely a deliberate act. that plane changing heading is most likely a deliberate act. if the payne stewart came about where the pilots were incapacitated by depressurization in the cabin, that plane would have flown straight, not turned around. the turning off of the transponder has to be a deliberate act. there are three, four, five redundancies in the plane's system that would keep electrical power to the plane. someone would have to deliberately turn that off. three of the four airplanes on 9/11, the hijackers turned the transponder off. that's something our counter-terrorism officials are thinking about tonight. >> jeremy, what about this route hope to? if you put that together, you know, the plane turns around and it's heading back across the strait of malacca. where could it have been heading to? you've got cities in india, dubai. they're all far away.
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it only had 7 1/2 hours of fuel to barely get to you dubai. you look at that scenario and it's hard to figure out what the goal was. >> it's very difficult to know at this stage. we don't know if it was a deliberate act. we don't know yet. we don't know if they were trying to take the plane down, whether or not there was a struggle or they were aiming for some other target. that's unknown right now, erin. i think it's becoming more clear this plane just didn't have the at electrical failure and started to keep on flying straight. we know that the did not happen. >> we'll talk to a pilot in a moment what he thinks may have happened there. what about the groups? last night we were talking about one group, a little known group in china-claimed responsibility and that was not at that time being taken seriously by intelligence officials. but when you say that this could have been deliberate, isn't it still bizarre that there was no te terror chatter.
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if it was a deliberate act, wouldn't an that have happened? >> we would have to figure out, was it a pilot who was disgruntled? were there psychological issues or was this an actual terrorist plot, you would think if it was a terrorist plot, that would be some claim of propaganda, some claim of responsibility. the group we were talking about last night, the uighur group or the east turkmenistan independence movement, those groups have conducted terrorist operations against china. i'm not so the enthralled by that theory because these passengers on the plane had testimony different destinations. some bound for beijing. some of them had flights to other places. it could have been the pilots wanting to do something deliberate. we don't know enough at this point. >> ambassador john huntsman said he didn't think those groups that may have engaged in terror in china had the operational ability to pull anything like this off. that was his view. jeremy bash, thank you very much. appreciate your taking the time.
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outfront" next, we're going to talk more about this issue of the pilots. we're learning more about the co-pilot of 370, why he allowed strangers to enter into the cockpit in a previous incident. we'll talk to a pilot about what might have happened in the cockpit. plus, terrorism, are is it to blame or not? the chairman of the house intelligence committee is out front. and we'll learn more about oscar pistorius' history with the guns. >> apologize for the lange,my lady. but i feel [ bleep ] mad. >> what did he say? he just laughed. so you can have a getaway from what you know. so you can be surprised by what you don't. get two times the points on travel and dining at restaurants from chase sapphire preferred. so you can taste something that wakes up your soul. chase sapphire preferred. so you can.
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so tonight, there are so many questions in the disappearance of malaysia airlines flight 370, where is it and why it so far off course. it was hundreds of miles off course. let's talk about the transponder. the signal's location of a plane to the ground. the transponder on this plane was about an hour in the flight turned off or stopped working. just as it educated course. tom foreman has been looking into this. this is what so many people say make this extraordinarily suspicious. what have you been able to determine why the transer ponder may have been off? >> its a very easy thing to do. the but the unis eight quick simple twist of the wrist and they're off. what we also know is the simple fact they discovered this turn, this question of the plane going somewhere else is has made the job of finding out what happened to it much more complicated.
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not easier. let me show you why. the reason it's more complicated has to do with the way they search things like this. they break off into big sections. up till now they've been searching up here. now that they've added new sections, this is what they have to do, they have to grid this of off and mile by mile, hour by hour, planes have to go over this and knock off these grids just a piece at a time and eliminate them. how many square miles we're talking about i can't even calculate at the moment. i know when the air france plane went down and they had debris within a couple of days, they searched 124,000 square miles. >> wow. >> to try to find the wreckage andton took two years. it's not just over water now. now they also have to look at questions like, whether or not this plane somehow went over a wooded area, a little traveled area and it went down somewhere out in here if it went down and how they would find it there. >> i mean, tom, that's a fair point to make.
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people say if it was over land, recent wouldn't people know. there's incredibly dense jung in that part of the world. there's also mountainous areas that would be not populated. if the plane is underwater, what happens then? i guess that brings us back to the question of, it is bizarre at this point especially when we talking about this part of the world and this strait. it's so busy with ships off the coast of brazil wasn't anywhere near as highly trafficked in terms of ships that could see debris. >> you mentioned this strait here. it's a very big deal. we don't know, based on this latest information, we don't know the even if it kept going, what if the plane did not stop here? if it keeps going this way, this thing was traveling about 560 miles an hour, had enough fuel for 7 hours of flight. that could take it well over the ocean and the certainly area expands infinitely. one thing about that strait, you are right.
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hugely hugely busy area and it's not terribly deep. its average 65 to 75 feet, something like that, the maximum depth is 328. so it's not really deep but that heavy travel blessing and a curse. the blessing is, a lot of ships out there, maybe be somebody sees something. there are a tremendous number of ships going up and down this channel. that also means a lot of noise. if they start using sonar waves under the water, that's harder to do with big ships going by every few minutes. >> tom foreman, thank you very much. i want to bring in mark weiss who is flew the boing 777. thanks very much for taking the time. talk about the issue of the transponder first and foremost. can you think of any reason why the pilot would have turned it off on purpose without nefarious intent? >> no, not really. the transponder is really a safety device.
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of it enunciates your position to air traffic control. and it helps to protect the air space that you're flying in. the type of transponder that the triple 7 has and what would be enunciated on a radar screen would say,m h 370, it would give the altitude, the air speed, the direction of flight. so the it kind of protects your air space and alerts air traffic control if there's an incursion into your air space. you want that protection all the time. >> so the transponder is off. we know at this point. now, and that's also been picked up according to the malaysian air force, the plane was picked up far, far away from the point at which it was turned off. assume that ip coulds to hold to be true, you put those two things together, where do you fall as a pilot in terms of the theories out there, which is is mechanical failure or hijacking or terrorism? >> well -- >> or pilot error, sorry. >> well, i'm inclined to
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believe, and of course, you're not going to know this. it's all speculation at this point, but i'm inclined to believe that when you add up all the pieces that we know at this point, that the airplane deviated from its course, the transponder was off, there was no communication, and without having the voice recorder, the cockpit voice recorder and certainly the flight data recorder, you don't even know who was in the cockpit or who was let into the cockpit. who was flying, whether there was a struggle. whether somebody had a meltdown. so might thinking tends to be something a little bit more nefarious than just some type of mechanical problem, somebody trying to return to an operational field to have maintenance done on an aircraft. >> mark, let me ask you to your point about who was in the cockpit. most people in the u.s. would say aren't those doors barred after 9/11? overseas is not always, it's been my experience that's the
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case. a woman on an australian television program said one of the pilots from the flight invited her and her friend into the cockpit on a previous flight. this is a picture of them all together december of 2011. they were teenagers. but he invited them up to the cockpit. what does this tell you about the possibilities here? >> well, it certainly opens up the possibility to what maybe nobody wants to think about. somebody was allowed to enter the cockpit. and did something that we don't want to believe could have happened. that they took over the aircraft. they could have intentionally disabled the pilots and flown the aircraft to a destination either into the water or to somewhere on land that they wanted. that's not going to happen on a u.s. aircraft. when you ask the question about whether or not this is something that people think about, if people are accustomed to what u.s. carriers or in many cases western carriers are doing for
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supporting the security of the aircraft, it's not necessarily the case around the globe. and people have to be aware of that. >> all right. thank you very much, mark. appreciate it. >> thank you. still to come, the head of the cia refuses to rule out terrorism in the disappearance of flight 370. does the past disaster offer important clues tonight about where this plane is? and a senator accuses the cia of spying on congress. wild speculation or is there something to it "outfront."
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so we're following the developing story on the disappearance of malaysia airlines flight 370 and the director of the cia today left open the possibility that terrorism may have been why the jet with the 239 people on board varnished. it's the same believe that quickly followed the explosion of twa flight 800 which crashed off the coast of new york's long island in 1996, july, 230 passengers and crew lost that your lives. in the days that followed, scores can of eyewitnesses came forward describing what they said was a streak of light. moving toward the jet shortly before it burst into flames. david mattingly covered the crash extensively for cnn. he's "outfront."
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like with malaysia air 370, there was a lot of talk about terrorism. it took a really long time for investigators to determine the cause of exactly what happened. >> at that time, there there were dozens of eyewitnesses on the ground, even a pilot in the air that saw flight 800 blow up in mid-air. jet airliners just don't do that. it was a natural thing for people to suspect that terrorism might it be the cause in fact, there was a great deal of preparation going on at every level of government up to the white house until the investigation was able to determine relatively early that there was no connection to terrorism. they were able to do that because they were able to analyze the wreckage. they were also able to look at the data in the cockpit voice recorder and flight data recorder. so far nothing like that has been recovered from this crash that's being investigated. in fact, the only thing that seems to being in common with be this flight compared to flight 800 was that there's no one of
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any credibility stepping forward to take responsibility for bringing it down. >> and that's one of the shocking things. everyone keeps saying gosh, if someone did this why are they not taking credit. >> in the case of the flight, it was something went horribly and shockingly wrong. conspiracy theories are still out there about that plane. >> this was an extraordinary investigation. it took months and costs tens of millions of dollars for them to gather all the pieces. they did something they've never done before. they took the pieces and put a large section of the plane back together. that piece of the reassembled plane is still in a hangar outside of washington, d.c. i've seen it. i've been inside of it. i've been inside the center fuel tank where they believe that the explosion happened. and at the end of the investigation, they were able to determine that it was because something as simple and as
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complex as old faulty wiring causing a spark inside that note ofly empty fuel tank igniting those fumes and causing the explosion. yed today, after all that effort, there are still people who strongly believe that this flight was brought down by a missile. and nothing is going to change their mind. there are even greater unknowns right now for the malaysian flight and we're just beginning to try and figure out what happened. >> absolutely. david mattingly, thank you very much. sort i've lesson there that are always going to be questions for some. how incredibly difficult it is to figure out what happened. look how much of the jet they had. at this point, we have no idea where this jet is. still to come, anger boiling over tonight with families of loved ones growing desperate for news about flight 370. the horrible anguish they are experiencing waiting and holding out hope. and president obama is in new york tonight for a major
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new developments in the disappearance of malaysia airlines flight 370ed. we know is the plane was traveling hundreds of miles off course. that is its planned course as you see, transponder turned off. we do not know why. and then the plane changes course. disappears well, well off where
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it was supposed to be. there are no answers at this point where that plane is now or how it went missing. it the wait for news has been agonizing for the families of passengers and crews. among them three american citizens including phillip wood, his brother told cnn yesterday that the family is quote just relying on faith. david mckenzie is in beijing where many of the waiting family members have gathered. >> reporter: in the hours turning into days, the pain spills out. i can still call my son's mobile phone this man cries out. you need to search for him quickly. meetings with airline officials are tense. at times angry. hundreds of family members want answers. but there are few to give. >> it is not the final closure. i think any ray of hope however remote or however improbable, many of these people are still hold on to it.
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>> reporter: airline officials have pledged to send close family members to the is takening ground of the search in malaysia. but few of them want to go. not until the plane is found. >> translator: i'm not going home until i know what happened. we've lost loved ones, and they need to answer our questions. when are you going to tell us? and what are you going to do? we still don't know the if they are alive or dead. >> reporter: as the extraordinary search effort continues, dozens of planes, boats and nations haven't been able to give these family members what they want to know. an answer of any kind. >> it's that not knowing that is the worst thing for these family. hundreds of them are in this hotel near the airport in beijing. more than 150 people missing were from here in china. a dozen narcnalities at least and all across the world people
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wanting to know why,' kind of news, even if it's bad news, going to the length of trying to call the cell phones and thinking maybe their loved ones are alive. erin? >> david mckenzie, thank you very much. my next guest understands those families'ing and quick, matthew mcconkey's friends boarded malaysia airlines flight 370 on saturday morning. matthew, thank you for being with us. i really can't fully imagine what you're going through losing your friends. you've known them for over six years. what can you tell us about them? >> thank you, erin. it's the reason i'm here. because i sort of feel it's a bit of a tribute to my friends. never gone through anything like this before and i hope to never go through anything like this again and i hope nobody i know goes through anything like this. fantastic couple. muktesh himself, a nut.
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always friendly. always had a big smile. always up for doing something. so we had a lot of fun times together. worked very hard in everything he did. traveled a lot for work but very much a devoted family man. love shamo. when you'd have a group of guys out and guys joking around or whatever, there was no joking about shamo. he was very much in love with her. as parents, nothing was more important to them than those kids. everything they did was surrounding those kids. you'd go to their house and it was covered with pictures of their boys who were absolutely 0 doshlsh. >> where are the children? obviously they were not with their parents on this trip which i believe was a vacation. >> yeah, it was a vacation. thank god. muktsah and she were taking a well deserved vacation in nieto
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vietnam. they had left the two boys with her mom back in beijing. so you know, as this whole thing unfolds, while there's the uncertainty of where is the aircraft and whatever, you know, the family's having to deal with the grief of you know, in all likelihood losing their daughter and their son. but all of the energy and the focus is right now on these two children. and protecting them from the outside world as much as they can right now and trying to figure out a path forward. >> matthew, thank you very much. >> you're welcome. joining me now is the chairman of the house intelligence committee, congressman mike rogers. great to have you with us, sir. appreciate your taking the time. you've been watching the developments and getting briefed on malaysia airlines flight 370. john brennan says the cia aren't ruling out terrorism. look, there are so many theories on the table. what's your view on the situation now? >> well, we see no evidence that it is terrorism. unfortunately, we don't see
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evidence that it's much of anything. we can't get any good determination about what happened to the flight based on the collection points our intelligence services are engaged in today. >> has the search mission been handled properly? it's got to be frustrating a plane goes down with 239 people, plane changes directions and we have no dale at all at this point of anything. >> yeah, and you know, not knowing its direction at the time that they lost contact is incredibly frustrating. and the malaysians have not been fully cooperative in making this a scientific search pattern using all the assets is wisely. you start out in one place and you're 500 miles away the next day. that tells me they've got a lot of gaps to try to fill and hopefully, that will come together. obviously, you want some closure for the families and we need access to the airplane to get some forensic evidence to try to make a determination to to see where we go next.
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>> two men were traveling on stolen passports. we reported on that. we have no idea if they were involved in the disappearance of the flight. interpol has a database of 40 million stolen or lost passports. passengers boarded planes more than a billion times without their them being checked against the database. that's stunning >> it's a huge problem. maybe this is a catalyst to try to get the problem fixed. and this is relatively easy to fix but you have to have the international communitytom cooperate. and you know, there are organized criminal groups who partake in the thievery of these passports and or purchase of them and repurposing them. it's a fairly significant business internationally. which causes problems. a lot of it is is human trafficking or moving drugs and other things. but it also leaves open this gap that where terrorists could fill
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in. that's why so many are concerned, including me and would like to push out some international sloougs solution pretty quickly. >> let me ask you about the situation overall. given there's so many questions and so much uncertainty. but that there are some pretty terrifying prospects on the table which may or may not be true whether that includes terrorism or hijacking as an option. have there been any changes in the united states in the past few days given there are some are saying this was a dry run. maybe this is something that there would need to be a response to. has there been one? >> you can imagine when something like this happens and there are questions we just can't get answered that the intelligence community is going to run through its worst case scenarios up front. you want them to do that. you want them to assume this was a dry run and there might be other activities, what kinds of things what p with we look for and changes would we make. those things have to happen. they are happening. and they should continue to do
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that even though, again, i want to be very clear, there is no glaring evidence yet that there is any terrorist activity involved in the flight. >> the chairman, i want to ask you about another big story today. senator dianne feinstein it, chairman of the senate committee was saying she thinks there has been cia surveillance of what's going on in the senate. right? she's obviously your counterpart over on the senate intelligence. >> right. >> so john brennan today categorically said nothing could be farther from the truth, we wouldn't do that. beyond the scope of reason. she says it would violate the constitution. do you believe, john brennan, that he didn't do it? >> i have faith in the ig system. and the ig referred something to the justice department when it came to believing that there may have been criminal charges on behalf of the cia. i don't know. i have imminent respect for dianne feinstein. we work well together between the house and the senate intelligence committee. if she takes to the floor to
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make a statement about something she feels strongly about, i can guarantee you there's more there than a simple floor speech. i don't know all the facts. clearly we need to get to the bottom of this very quickly so we can de-escalate what appears to be a very unproductive and i could argue damaging extraining. was a little surprised that the director took out so strong, given that the ig referred a case. maybe it was best not to be out there talking about it. we very so much work to do, so much you know, facts to find when it comes to other cases counter-terrorism cases, foreign intelligence collection. we'd better get to the bottom of this quickly. >> chairman, ukraine obviously is a huge issue. the president is going to be meeting with the interim prime minister of ukraine tomorrow. coming to the united states. but obviously, the interim prime minister is, you know, the states calls him the interim prime minister. the parliament put him in power after there was -- i know people
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are touchy about the word used here but russia calls it a coup. either way, it was crowds on the street that got the elected guy kicked out. should -- does putin have a point that this was a coup and the united states is now supporting an interim prime minister who is not democratically elected? >> hard to believe the russian point of view when you have troops who basically pushed out and have taken over military bases in south crimea. you have a huge and growing problem. i think where the legal problem is going to get questionable is if they -- the south -- or the crimean peninsula votes on sunday to be part of russia, to secede from ukraine and join russia, that creates a whole host of problems. what i think we have is a very long problem. this is not going to heal overnight. there will it be diplomacy and other aggression i think before this is over. i don't think it will break into big military exchanges. i do think there could be
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and now let's check in with anderson with a look on what's coming up on "ac 360." >> about 12 minutes from now we are tracking all the latest developments of missing flight 370. we're going to dig into what could have made the pilots change course so erratically mid flight. joined by several aviation experts and fbi assistant director to try to lay out the investigation where it is now, where it's going and possible causes. also anguished families waiting
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for any information on their missing loved ones. we'll take a closer look at some of those who are missing. we're learning more about them, including one father who left behind his wedding band and his watch for his young sons should anything happen to him on his trip. plus certainly isn't the first air mystery we've seen. we'll take a look at past catastrophic air accidents. planes simply vanishing and how investigators back then were able to locate clues sometimes years later. we'll talk to those who are involved in some investigations. those stories plus the latest on the oscar pistorius trial all tat the top of the hour. now we'll talk a little bit about oscar pistorius. the focus of his murder trial shifted from forensics back to the athlete's history with guns. this is a pretty tortured and bizarre story. the one-time olympian seated next to a green plastic bucket today because he was unability to stomach the gory description of his girlfriend's death during yesterday's testimony.
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robin kurnow is out front in pretoria for us tonight. >> reporter: oscar pistorius calm and composed as he walked into court. a stark contrast from the olympian we saw yesterday, crying, gagging, repeatedly throwing up as the state pathologist detailed his model girlfriend reeva steenkamp's final moments. the testimony so gruesome, the judge cut the live video feed. today pistorius listened intently as the pathologist contradicted the athlete's claims the couple went to bed by 10:00 and were not fighting the night she died. he testified steenkamp had eaten about 1:00 a.m., two hours before the shooting. a friend of pistorius also taking the stand. >> we had met on a breakfast run and subsequently became very friendly thereafter. >> reporter: darren fresco testified about an incident the court heard about last week where pistorius lost his cool after an officer stopped them for speeding and touched his
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gun. >> he started telling the officer, now your fingerprints are all over my gun. so if something happens you are then going to be liable for anything that would happen. >> reporter: he then went on to paint pistorius's reckless with guns. >> without prior warning, he shot out the sun roof. >> did you say anything? >> apologies four my language, my lady, but [ mute ] mad. >> what did he say? >> he just laughed, my lady. >> reporter: pistorius denies that shooting took place. and his defense took the friend to task questioning whether his version of events is so drastically different from the athlete's ex-girlfriend's claims of what happened that night. >> oscar and dan were pretty anxious and a little bit irritated with the policeman, and so they laughed and oscar shot a bullet out the sun roof. >> i'm trying to understand how it is you have two people in a
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car that can differ so dramat dramatically about when and where and why the shot was allegedly fired. >> not only did oscar pistorius's friend contradict other witnesses, he also seemed evasive, unsure of himself, unsure of his own testimony and statements under cross-examination. his performance on the stand buoyed it seemed the defense team. they left the pretoria high court at the end of the session with smiles on their faces and his friend will now appear again for further cross-examination tomorrow. erin, back to you. >> thanks so much to robin. breaking news, very important political race tonight. cnn is ready to make a projection in the special election for house seat in florida's 13th district part of st. petersburg. we can now project republican david jolly has beat democrat alex sink. many believe it is a crucial bellwether for the mid-term elections in november.
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dana bash is there in st. petersburg tonight. dana? >> reporter: erin, i'm at alex sink's the democratic candidate's headquarters. she just came out, she's speaking behind me. she is conceding this race. as you said, the reason why there is such a national focus on what's going on here is because it has been kind of a testing ground for both parties on several fronts but most importantly on the message of obamacare, what alex sink has been saying at the behest of the democratic party is that she is still for obamacare but that she thinks there should be some changes, there should be some reforms to it. and that is something that she's been pushing, something that democrats were and still are hoping that other democrats in tough races in the big mid terms in november can use. it didn't work for her here, but it's also important to note that this is a district that has been held by a republican or was held by a republican until he passed
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away for 43 years. so the winner as you said is david jolly. we expect him to come out and speak at his headquarters down the road in a short while. he actually was an employee of the late republican congressman for a long time. he is somebody who has been saying that he wants to follow in his footsteps. there's no question that helped him here. but also when you're talking about the national perspective, he as you can imagine has been campaigning against obamacare, saying he wants to repeal obamacare but also with a twist. he's been really pushing harder than other republicans the idea of replacing it, of not just taking await health care law but making sure there's something else in place. those are the two kind of opposing messages on a national level that the parties have been testing. but in this particular case the republican one, whether or not that it's going to be able to be something that will be a bellwether for what happens in november is an open question. but certainly all of the results are going to be analyzed,
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particularly the millions of dollars that have poured in here from all across the country. erin? >> dana, thank you very much. a very significant race as the democrats and republicans battle daily over what the count will be and who will have control of the senate. still to come, president obama answers some serious questions, kind of. plus presents the cold truth. [ coughs, sneezes ] [ sniffles ] i have a big meeting when we land, but i am so stuffed up, i can't rest. [ male announcer ] truth is, nyquil cold and flu liquid gels don't unstuff your nose. they don't? [ male announcer ] nope. they don't have a decongestant. really? [ male announcer ] really. alka seltzer plus night fights your worst cold symptoms, plus has a fast-acting decongestant to relieve your stuffy nose. [ inhales deeply ] alka seltzer plus. oh. what a relief it is. [ male announcer ] can't find theraflu, try alka seltzer plus for fast liquid cold and flu relief. they don't know it yet, but they're gonna fall in love, get married, have a couple of kids, [ children laughing ] move to the country, and live a long, happy life together where they almost never fight about money.
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president obama takes on zach galifianakis's joke for joke on the actor's talk show "between two ferns." galifianakis is known for insulting his guests and banking on extremely awkward moments. but the president had some of his own. >> it must kind of stink, though, that you can't run three times. >> actually, i think it's a good idea. if i ran a third time it would be sort of like doing a third "hangover" movie. didn't really work out very well, did it? >> apparently the appearance was the white house's way of selling obamacare to young people. pretty awesome appearance i have to say. the president was not shy to plug obamacare. today we learned the administration is closer to meeting its targets. another 842,000 people enrolled in health care. participation among young people remains stagnant. maybe more appearances with the ferns will help. speaking of ferns, don't miss dr. sanjay gupta's double down on medical marijuana," weed 2,
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cannibis madness" starts tonight 10:00 eastern. we hope you'll watch. it's an absolutely fantastic show. "ac 360" starts right now. good evening, everyone. thanks for joining us. we begin tonight with a simple question, a question many people have been asking them stephs. how can a modern airliner just vanish? turns out there are no simple answers. there are however truly stung developments today in the search for malaysia airlines flight 370. stunning because normally in the days after a disaster, unless there's no information to go on whatsoever, the possible explanations begin to narrow not broaden. but today they got broader and wider. the search area gets smaller and not larger. but now it is. clues start pointing in one direction, not several, including as it did today amazingly toward a tiny spot of land hundreds of miles from where the airliner was thought to have vanished even yesterday. going to day five since the boeing 777 vanished, people searching for answers have done a