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i think it is, but people do have personal drones. this did look official to me. drones flying over the scenes, they are keeping officials informed. >> don, i want you to stand by because brooke baldwin is in new york as well. she will pick up our coverage right now. thank you so much for being with us on this thursday. busy, busy news day as we follow two major stories this afternoon. first right here in new york city. look at these pictures. incredible amounts of smoke, deadly scene there in harlem as fire crews and new york police department's bomb squat went after an explosion and two buildings collapsed in east harlem.
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the latest numbers we have here, two dead and 24 others hurt. we have heard from new york's mayor bill deblasio saying several people are also missing, but he will not speculate on that possibility number. the blast happened right around 9:30 this morning. the local utility company said it was called out to the location for a possible gas leak, but the explosion happened before the trucks arrived. >> let's get to the breaking news. new development in the other story we are following for you that we have been following for days now. the latest in the search for the missing 777, malaysian airliner. it appears malaysian officials still do not know where this plane was flying when it vanished with 239 people on board. with each and every clue comes more confusion. here's what we just learned.
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malaysian police are questioning the man who hosted these two iranian nationals in kuala lumpur. the national who is had the stolen passports who boarded the jet. we have more on that angle as we learn that. the report that the last words heard from the crew of the plane were "all right, good night." . after searching the intended path of the flight, malaysia's military said they may have radically changed course, popping up as a blip on radar more than an hour later. hundreds of miles away. a dramatic change in course over the straights and also that means a search area has suddenly doubled in size today. it's a development so baffling that vietnam -- just look at the
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map. you have vietnam here. staying back efforts until malaysia gets its act together. they are getting the answers. >> you are getting increasing criticism and searching east and searching west and don't seem to know what you have seen on a ra da are and it's taking you until now. >> that's not true. >> this is utter confusion now. >> i think it's far from it. it's only confusion if you want it to seem to be confusion. it's very clear and very consistent. >> you know where you need to search. >> in the two areas. >> how desperate has the situation become? a witch doctor, if you will, said a malaysian leader lifted this spiritualer is moan tow uncover any clues. this is how desperate they are and he came up with nothing.
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>> on top of that, cnn learned that the home of the pilot is being searched by authorities. let me bring in stevens who is watching the story there in kuala lumpur. the fact that this friend who hosted these two nationals is being questioned by a police. tell me what you know about that. >> he is being picked up by police and we understand he is being interviewed at the police station here in kuala lumpur. cnn spoke to him just in the last few minutes. he is safe and he's well and expecting to be there for another couple of hours. he was the friend of the two iranians, the 18 and 29-year-old who used the stolen passports to get on board that doomed flight. the theory on the use of the stolen passports has less to do with anything related to
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terrorism and more to do with the fact that it was people smuggling. one of the young iranian boys, his final destination was frankfurt where his mother was waiting to meet him at the airport. the other was going to copenhagen. they are questioning their friends here in kuala lumpur as to what his connections were and what he knew about these two. the police are talking to a lot of people. they also have been to the home of the pilot and he was a 53-year-old very experienced pilot. he was something of an aviation geek and he had his own simulator in his house. police have been there and they looked at the data on that simulator. no word on what they found. >> i was curious as far as what police could be looking for. you have those two things happening in the meantime. i go back to the families. 239 people on board this 777 jet
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and with all these conflicting reports and malaysian airlines backing off for another report, how are families handling this? >> you can only imagine just how difficult it must be for the families. we are going into the 6th day. just turned day six in the hunt. several hour away from daylight and still we don't have anything concrete. what i can say about the search is it's something we got yesterday and the fact that this is a path, a flight path that has been inflicted that shows a plane, an unidentified plane flying back over malaysia into the streets. why this is linked to malaysian airlines, the radar signal was picked up just after the plane
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lot of contact. it was on the same flight path through the straights. that is why that search in the western part of malaysia is getting so much bigger. the question is, how high was that plane flying when it was last reported to be about 200 miles northwest of the coast? it was high. it could have been flying for another couple of hours and could be way out into indian territorial waters. they could be facing weeks before they get some sort of understanding of where that plane went down. >> hearts and thoughts go out to them as they sit and wait and wait. thank you from kuala lumpur and i want to focus on this search. this now suddenly doubled in size. the search area to the flight.
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now covers from 27,000 square miles. authorities clearly don't know where to focus. the search for the missing airliners. let's bring in the pilot and former international captain and northwest airlines. david, welcome. >> good to be with you. >> so, let's begin with the -- what we know and don't know. what we don't know, debris. there was a clear lack of debris. no pieces of the plane or cushions, no nothing. what might that mean? >> it means one of two things. either we are not looking in the right place or the airplane touched down on the miracle on the hudson where the airplane touched the water or maybe on land somewhere, but it touched down in a controlled state. hopefully that was the case and the folks got off with the rafts, but i would be inclined to believe if they touched down in a controlled state, somebody
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would grab the emergency locator transmitters that have to be activated. they will go on if you throw them in the water. they are water-activated. that hasn't happened. i'm inclined to think that's not the case. there is a lot of triple canopy jungle. >> i wanted to ask you on that. we keep focusing so much on the water. there is heavily forested area in that part of the world. it's possible it could be on the land and you wouldn't see it. >> if you are not looking there. it would be not impossible, but difficult. can we see any recent flame or explosions or a new gash on the ground. it takes time to sort the data. 27,000 square miles of ocean plus all the land mass that airplane potentially flew over. the fact that they made a turn towards land makes me think it was a catastrophe in the cockpit that was caused by a breech of
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the flight deck and the crew being forced or did they have such a mechanical problem they had to concentrate on flying the airplane and who know what is that might have been. with multiple systems, it's unusual to lose every ability to communicate. the last words heard from them. nice to talk to you. exactly. good night. we will talk to the next controller or catch you next time. have a good day. if you listen on the scanners around any united states airport, you will hear a lot of responses. that is a common phrase heard. not alarming at all to me. >> glad you pointed that out. thank you so much. always great to talk to someone who has been in the cockpit and knows how it works. we will have so much more on the plane. how the heck does a jumbo jet disappear now. we are in the 6th day especially with this technology.
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this is a 777, i sophisticated aircraft. we will talk to richard and he will show how easy it may be for a plane to vanish. the malaysian government announcing the new search area. we'll talk to tom forman who has a closer look at the location and why it may be key in finding this missing plane. we are also watching this developing situation in new york city very closely this afternoon. this building just explode this is morning and comes crashing down. it's two buildings. two dead. more than a dozen injured and next we will go to the scenem. t a woman was trapped in her bathroom after the blast. how a neighbor got her out. [ male announcer ] it's simple physics... a body at rest tends to stay at rest... while a body in motion tends to stay in motion. staying active can actually ease arthritis symptoms. but if you have arthritis, staying active can be difficult. prescription celebrex can help relieve arthritis pain so your body can stay in motion.
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neighbors reported smelling gas earlier this morning before that explosion. people several street away said they heard and felt the blast as well. >> boom! it's like heavy thunder. >> just a big cloud. a big explosion. like thunder. very heavy thunder. >> dozens of people as you can imagine live in the area forced to get out of the homes. one woman said our poppy harlow, it jammed her apartment door shut. >> i didn't know what was going on and i looked out my window. may neighbors came banging on my door telling me to get out. they evacuated the building and couldn't get out. the explosion jammed the door as well. >> looking into it, you can't see past it.
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the mayor is there on the scene. we have also learned that president obama has been briefed and cnn has live coverage on this explosion. i know you are at 117th and park. set the scene for me right here. >> i'm looking at piles and piles and rubble. i have never seen anything like it. i am looking at dozens of firefighters on the scene. earlier just before you came to me, the firefighters were digging through the rubble. they are not doing it anymore. i'm not sure why. that means they feel they have found everyone or the shift change is too dangerous to go
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further. that's what i'm looking at now. some firefighters are moving away. looking at firefighters who were looking aggressive. i am looking at a hook and ladder truck and spraying these two buildings. the hot spots and the fire that is still going. since 9:30 this morning. just about i guess third or 45 minutes ago was a. strong smell of natural gas in the air. conedison are working frantically with a jack hammer and trying to get down into the hole and standing on the corner. just a couple yards away from the building. i can see a big hole that had
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about 20 people trying to shut the main off. a couple of minutes ago, they managed to shut it off and they moved away from the hole. a short time ago i saw a body. i don't know if that is in addition to the two people who have died according to the mayor's office and part of that. we haven't heard a change in the numbers and imagine it's part of that. i saw a drone flying over. some people saw here and residents are saying they are building it and residents are filming it and members of the police department are saying that's one of our drones. there is a lot going on here. everyone has been evacuated and also from the block i'm in.
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as i was being evacuated, they walked over and said hey, how are you. i managed to stay in closer than anybody has been able to get. >> it's a grim description of what you have seen so far. stay close to your phone as you can help keep us posted. there people unaccounted for and one woman thank goodness she is okay. she felt this thing this morning and said it felt like an earthquake. she is aisha watts and just got home from taking her kids to school. i have to say sitting here in new york city, a lot of people watching the pictures, they came back with the smoke and the explosion to 9/11.
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how are you this afternoon? are. >> still shaken up. this is right next to us. they are still connected together. >> you are that close. >> 9:31 this morning, i was in the shower getting ready for work and got the kids off already. it was beyond a big boom. i thought it was a derailment. i didn't know what to think. the toilet was shaking and everything was shaking. i got up and heard the windows come in. i have no window frames or walls. the walls came tumbling down. i have nothing. >> what did you do next? i understand your apartment door was stuck. how did you get out? >> it was stuck and tried to get out. i tried to get a knife to carve myself out and unlock myself.
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i was banging on the door on my apartment door so they would rescue me. >> so your neighbor came to the rescue. are you -- you are not back in your apartment? >> we can't go back for the next couple of days. the building was connected to the that collapsed. >> tell me about the building. i guess it's buildings that collapsed. do you know if they were full of residents. >> i'm about to be 38 and my grandmother same from south care loo linea. she came up around 30 and that was before that. there was always problems in that building.
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>> i'm glad you are a-ok and if your kids weren't home to experience what you experience, no walls or windows in your apartment. thank you so much for calling in. we will get back to the story in a minute, but five days, we are working on six now. plane, no signs whatsoever. u.s. intelligence turning to satellites to try to see if there clues that they can help find this plane. we will tell you what they have found thus far. a massive search cannot be completed quickly especially if the plane is sitting deep in the ocean. we will talk to an oceanographer who searched for an air france plane one years ago. those little things still get you.
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. >> back to the international mystery that is capturing the world's attention. what happened to malaysia flight 370. they are wonder figure an explosion was picked up. barbara star is working that angle for us. what are sources telling you? >> we talked to a number of officials and what they all say is no u.s. spy sense sensorsor military radars picked up evidence of a mid-air explosion. they don't see anything. that's not necessarily the story we are told. they didn't pick up the evidence, but there could have been an event out over the open
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ocean that they couldn't pick up and they may not have been the type of event that they are geared to register. the satellites watch coastal areas for the launch of a ballistic missile coming up from the earth's surface. they look as the missile accelerates into the atmosphere. that may not be what happened, that trajectory, it didn't pick anything up. they feel sure that they have a picture that tey did not have a mid-air explosion register, but they can't be 100% about it. adding to the mystery about what happened in this incident. barbara star, we are you in in day six of the search. thank you so much. you have countries across the world that are now pooling their
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resources to try to find flight 370. about four times the size of massachusetts. that will not happen overnight. we will talk about why there is so much frustration over this large search area. we are watching the situation for you in east harlem and new york city. two dead and more than two dozen injured. describe the blast feeling like an earthquake and shattering glass and walls. we will take you back to the scene. you are watching cnn. (vo) you are a business pro. seeker of the sublime. you can separate runway ridiculousness... from fashion that flies off the shelves. and you...rent from national.
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. >> it's tough to find something when you don't know where to look. the search area for the plane has doubled and right now there few leads to help shrink that. the more we learn, the more puzzling the disapparance becomes. we learned police are right now questioning the although important to remember the investigation focused on human trafficking and not any links to terrorism on the plane. malaysia police have been searching the home of the pilot as we learned a tubling new piece of information. the last words were already, good night. according to straight times newspaper. i talked to the pilot and he
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said that's par for the course. after spending five and now on to the 6th day searching the area. malaysia's military now said it may have to radically change the course and popping up as you watch the trajectory. popping up as a blip of the radar. a dramatic change of course. malaysian authorities overwhelmed by the piece of information. they realized their radar information and tremendous confusion about the plane's final path, adding to the grief for the families of the 239 people who are on board that flight. let's go to washington, d.c. for the colleague here. tom forman.
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they don't know where to look for the plane. tell me about the search area that doubled. >> wherever they may be, this trend is going in the wrong direction. you want to see the search narrowing and not getting wider. it flew up here at 1:30 in the morning and all tran responding stopped and now we are getting this information that conflicts and said other things. for example, this motion from the military that this plane turned. a lot of people seem to think it turned, but it's not clear why. you have what's called a reflection. why did they say a reflection? that's because if the transponder is working on the plane, the radar queries it in a sense and it responds. we are the malaysian air flight. when that's turned off, all they can say is there is something out there. if there is something, why would radar get a reflection here and
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not in many, many other steps along the way. we don't have an answer as to why there people in various locales saying they saw something and it's all over the place. all over the place. all these different reports. as a result the search areas have gone crazy in a limited zone. now it's over here in the straight. here's the difficulty of that. you have to portion your resources as you can. yes, there dozens of planes and ships from a dozen countries helping to search. look what they have to do. in each case, what they are going to do is grid off the search areas and a block at a time, they have to go over the areas. whether they are using infrared or visual to search for any debris from the plane, they have to do this.
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some reports as high, that's only about a quarter after it went down on the way from south america. it took two years to find the plane. they had debris within the first couple of days. they knew where that plane went down. this is just terrible news for the families and everyone in the community who wants to know what happened here. the real indication of all of this is not the magnitude of effort, but the magnitude of confusion and they have no idea where it is. >> we are about to talk to a guy who is helping to lead the team on that air france flight. this is bafing to him. tom forman, thank you so much. part of that discussion involves how do you search the bottom of the sea for that? my next guest was part of the team that two years later they figured out what went wrong with the flight. he will join me next. also ahead, cnn crews took pretty stunning video of this
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. let me quote the man we are about to talk to. right now it's like a murder mystery with no body. this is what he said about the 777 disappearance. he's a special projects director at the oceanography institution. david, welcome to you. you have a unique perspective because you helped colead that investigation that air france flight 447 a couple of years
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ago. we will get into that in a monday, but it certainly doubled in size, but you say the search area is not big enough. right? >> i think it's growing every day. >> you can't leave any more stones unturned. this is a horrible predicament. >> david, do we have you? >> i'm here. >> i thought i lot of you. >> you are saying maybe it's too big. how about the possibility that this plane did not land in the water. >> the fact that we had to go on with the last known position. other than that there is not a secret of evidence that that plane landed on the water. for what we do, we need to search and have that x marks the spot of where that plane
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impacted the water if it did. there is no 7 information right now. >> it's times the size of the search area you were dealing with with air france flight 447. help us not in the aviation industry and not in this investigation area, help us understand what exactly they are doing right now. >> i'm on the outside like you are looking in. i can only wonder. we had a chat this morning, some of my colleagues involved wondering what we would do and you have to start with the basics and get all of this extraneous stuff out of the way. you are looking for the tiny bits of a needle, the black boxes in a very large haystack. if you are in the wrong haystack, no matter what instruments you got, you are not going to find the aircraft. you have to find out where the
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search area is and limit it down as much as possible. this is one of the most perplexing situations i have seen and a horrible station to be in. >> how would you narrow down the search area? there is no debris and pieces of seat or metal. how do they know where to look? >> you can't. the only thing that narrows it down is the amount of fuel in the plane. it's that big. normally the way we would narrow is down is find bits of the plane floating on the ocean and you use the scientists to back track that has it moves with wind and currents. that gives you the rough location of the center of the haystack. there is no such evidence. it's open ended. >> how tense do you think the command center is for the folks right now. >> it has to be horrible. i have been there. when i hear the minster of transportation, i think the guy is speak speaking from his heard
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and get it solved and he reaches out and understands the agnew that the families and friends are going through. having been there, the criticism that i hear right now -- >> there is a lot of it. >> it's easy to do, but it's not helpful. when you are inside that circle, it's probably a lot of sleepless nights and questioning inside whether they are doing the right thing and did they miss something. so that criticism is not helpful. they need confidence and support to do what they -- they are the only ones that know what's going on. when he said we are trying to get this solved, i believe the guy. >> you believe it. you know the sleepless nights i'm sure. having investigated the air france flight. thank you so much. we will take you back to that mystery, but we want to take you overseas because cameras caught tense moments between ukrainian and russian soldiers in crimea.
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all of this happening as across the waters in washington president obama will be sitting down with ukraine's interim prime minister. we will take you to the white house and live to new york where two people are dead and two dozen are injury and many are unaccounted for after two buildings collapsed after the explosion this morning in east harlem. predibut, manufacturings a prettin the united states do. means advanced technology. we learned that technology allows us to be craft oriented. no one's losing their job. there's no beer robot that has suddenly chased them out. the technology is actually creating new jobs. siemens designed and built the right tools and resources to get the job done. and his new boss told him two things -- cook what you love, and save your money. joe doesn't know it yet, but he'll work his way up
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kerry who said he will meet with his russian counter part. today he told a hearing the world is looking to america to act. >> our interest is in protecting the sovereignty and the independence of the integrity of ukraine and partners and others. we have a responsibility to be engaged and we are engaged. >> right now president obama is at the white house. he is sitting down and meeting with the prime minister. this comes as tensions are rising in crimea. cnn has just witnessed a tense standoff between a ukrainian soldier pointing his weapon at pro russian forces. we are covering it all with the senior white house correspondent with nick walsh.
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at the white house, we talk a lot about talking and needing. what do we expect to happen from this face-to-face. >> from ukraine, he just arrived in the last few minutes. we expect the president and the to make remarks that will be able to watch and bring to you in a few minutes from now. we will be waiting to see if he comes out and makes statements to the press. the prime minister does not hold back, but all of this is happening as there fast-moving developments. secretary of state john kerry headed over to london. interesting to note that the state department was saying that the secretary would not make such a trip unless the russians were making concrete steps to engage on a diplomatic level out of the crisis in crimea. perhaps that has started to take
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place. we will have to wait and see. the other interesting thing as you know is the g 7 which is part of the g8. the nations minus russia. earlier this morning, they want to throw to that. that's something that came up at the white house. any such referendum would talk about the schedule for sunday and given the lack the adequate preparation, it would be a deeply flawed process that has no force for all these reasons and would not recognize the out come. one is secretary jay carney. not so fast about what is hanging over us. what if russia as a diplomatic signal does not seek to annex crimea. i asked about that and he said we will have to wait and see how russia reacts and he called that a key question. it's something we will look at. >> happening sunday and that
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statement from the g 7 from what we heard at the white house. the leader in france, illegal. you have what's happening in crimea. tell me about the standoff you witnessed there. >> quite a sigh from what jim was talking about. a lot of noise. that's not what's changing. they are much closer to russia. then the question is what happens to the thousands of ukrainian troops still here. the naval base in the northwest, we saw there how ukrainian troops have dug in behind sandbags and loaded their weapons and we are moving in russian troops. a rush towards the base and closed towards the base. they say russian, but they don't have insignia. they introduce themselves to the training weapons and vehicles consistent with that. these soldiers moved down a
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fence trying to probe and caused them to panic a little and put alarms on and call everyone to the stations rate to defend and ready to bring a personal carrier close to the gates. at that point they pointed the heavy machine gun at the main entrance and the ukrainian soldiers loaded weapons and faced at russians who had loaded weapons faced back at them and suddenly it deescalated. at that point a russian attack helicopter circled the town. tensions still persisting. >> stopping short of pulling the trigger. thank you. jim acosta, thank you. we will stand by if we get anything from the prime minister. coming up, we will talk to another commercial airline pilot and his thoughts on the mystery. the flight 370. would it have been easy to change course? turn off the transponder at the same time? what happened there? he will explain what could have
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. at least two people are dead and two dozen others are injured after the two buildings collapsed in the explosion this morning believed to be from a gas leak. look at the smoke here. sending smoke into the air and blasts blowing out so many windows. it was a-alarm fire and people reported the smell of gas about a couple of minutes before this morning's blast. this is what the two buildings just for perspective's sake. this is what it looked like before this explosion.
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the other on the right in a repair shop and you will see what's left when we go live to poppy harlow. we know as we are learning the numbers of folks who were injured and unaccounted for. >> two dead and 24 'ed and unknown number unaccounted for from the mayor of and one of the buildings who collapsed, what have you been doing to try to find her? it's going right to voice mail? >> she immediately texted us that was our aunt's building. we started calling the local hospitals and went directly to
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the red cross who she is still not on any of those. >> she is 67 years old and very involved in the church. what can you me about her and what you guys are going to do after this. >> we will continue and go to the office and they are doing the best they can to reference the hospital lists and find out if she is on any of the hospitals. that's where we will head and stand by to get more information. >> you are hopeful and keeping your spirits high. best wishes to both of you. we will be here throughout the day as well. keep us posted. thank you very much. back to you. this is the real concern at this point. we don't know how many people are unaccounted for. the mayor not wanting to put a number out there because it is so early.
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>> poppy harlow, thank you so much. we continue on hour two. i'm brooke baldwin. we go to the mystery. this malaysian airliner flight 370. no sign of it or the 239 people who were on board. with each new clue comes more confusion. here's what we just learned. the malaysian police questioned the iranian nationals's friends and they are centered on human trafficking and not any suspected terrorism links. that questioning happening as i speak. we are entering the 6th day here and instead of the search area narrowing, it's only gotten bigger. as of now, it has doubled in size and covers about 27,000 square miles and roughly four times the state of
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massachusetts. in part because the malaysians can't agree where the evidence shows the plane was last spotted. the military said it may have changed course, popping up as a blip on the radar and hundreds of miles away. now bill palmer and author of understanding air france 447. bill, welcome. >> thanks, brooke. >> we keep hearing these experts talk about the missings flight and the fact that the transponder went from on to off. first for all of us, what does the transponder do? >> a transponder sends information down to the radar air traffic control. it was referred to as secondary radar. it interrogates and sends back the information the code and can
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carry other information as well. altitude and depending on which mote they are talking about. >> try to explain why the transponder might have gone off. >> it could have been turned off or it could have failed. possibly from the same event that caused other communication items to fail. hard to say. it's an electronic component and it's subject to electrical or other failures like any other electrical component. >> you are a pilot and you have been watching this and i talked to somebody who led the investigation into air france. he is perplexed by this. what is your question number one. >> seems we know less today than yesterday as far as the actual
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radar trace that we thought the airplane turned around and it's not clear what the aircraft path was. they think his part would be to see how the airplane turn and what sdprekz it stayed under the same heading and those can give us the idea of if it was a manually selected change or degradation in the navigation mode from the managed path where the flight plan was typed in that degraded to select mode due to failure and other components. a lot of questions and not a lot of information to build a good scenario. >> here's what else we don't have. we don't have debris and it's day six. no piece of metal or life vest or seat cushion. what could that suggest to you? >> it's a huge area that the airplane could possibly be in.
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it's hard to imagine how difficult it is to find something. i know everyone thinks the 777 is big and if you stand in it or next to it, it's like before we were looking for something the size of a car or truck in pennsylvania and now it's more like we are looking for something that size here in north america. we thought it was headed for canada and now it's heading towards mexico. it's a very, very difficult situation to try to find anything. looking for pieces on the shimmering water doesn't make it any easier for sure. >> let me ask you this. as a pilot, we are learning from the newspaper in the area, the last thing we heard from one of the members of the crew was all right, good night. does that alarm you or is that something a pilot would say? >> that's normal. when we change from one control to the other it's common to say
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good night. sometimes even in their local language, if you know it. it's common and doesn't alarm me at all. >> okay. thank you so much. let's bring in cnn's andrew stevens. he is watching the story from kuala lumpur. let's go to the word about the man in ma kwlaz who was a friend of the two men and uses the passports to board the plane. tell me about that questioning. >> we don't know what the line of questioning is and the fact that they will try to find out about the two people who used the stolen passports as the police go to. we understand that he's still being interviewed at the moment and cnn spoke to him a couple of hours ago.
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i'm being interviewed and that's expecting them to go home. it's important to remember the two men who did board that flight using the stolen passports. this was much more to do with people smuggling than any terrorist link they were going to europe for either asylum or to start a new life in some shape or form. >> police had searched the home of the pilot. what were they looking for? >> that's right. he's quite an interesting character. he's an aviation buff. the 53-year-old had more than 19,000 flying hours. when he was not flying, he had his very own simulator. it would be interesting to see what he had on the simulator.
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we haven't gotten information on what they took away or if they took anything away at all. it's part of the broader investigation and trying to establish a link or clue to what happened. >> andrew stevens in kuala lumpur. thank you very much. more coverage on the missing 777. we will get more information as far as what happened to the flight and what caused it to disappear and what military satellite imagery might show. that's ahead. up next, more on the building explosion and east harlem, new york. two people are dead and two dozen injured. stilling the scene. there some unaccounted for. eyewitnesss, next. ♪ [ cellphones beeping ] ♪ [ cellphone rings ] hello? [ male announcer ] over 12,000 financial advisors. good, good. good. over $700 billion dollars in assets under care.
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. still a number of people unaccounted for after the explosion in the east harlem neighborhood. at least two people are dead and two dozen hurt. two fbi agency are also injured. they are expected to be okay and that's the latest that we got. this blast levelled and neighbors felt the explosion and shattered windows and removed walls. man said it knocked his door off and sent his cat flying. >> all of a sudden this explosion goes off. boom! the kinetic energy flew out. my cat flies out and i'm like what's going on.
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he tries to figure out what's going on. the first thing i thought is when the pilot woke up, remembering what happened two years ago on 42nd street. that's what i thought it was. about minutes later, there was a fire truck right there. i was able to get up there before it got blocked off. there was a lot of chaos. >> my goodness. >> don lemon is in the midst. >> what are you seeing right now? >> i'm seeing a lot of firefighters. they are still putting water on the scene. trying to douse them. now that they have gotten this gas main shut off, they are out of danger and some people are
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there. i spoke to one of the firefighters and said do you think there is anyone under there? there is a possibility and that's why we are still searching. they had the firefighters out on the scene earlier. when the blast happened earlier, there was rubble there and what the firefighters did, they were out here using their hands and the debris and to remove it. now there is a big pile of debris in the middle. so now what they are using, bigger equipment that they have gotten a lot of this away. to go further into the building and remove some of that rubble. there other firefighters that are now inside of the place
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where they can get where there no hot spots. >> the hands are now looking. they see if they could get bodies or anything like that. the electricity was set off and i'm one block over and standing next to the police officer and allowing me the only ones inside the police lines. the looks on their faces, it will probably take some time. they don't know if there people underneath this debris field. >> with the smoke and the rubble and the pictures coming out, i'm sitting here in new york city as well and everybody is going back to 9/11.
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what happened on the flight? investigators across several countries are scratching their heads, trying to answer that very question. think of the timeline. it vanished early saturday night. 239 people on board. malaysian officials don't know what happened to the plane and where to look. let's bring in the chief national security correspondent in washington with more on this. jim, you got a lot of sources. what are they telling you? >> it's confusing, frustrating for all involved. you say scratch your head moment. it's days after this plane disappeared and malaysian authorities are looking at a range of possible explanations and no closer to picking one as the leading theory here. they are exploring the possibility of a hijack. taking over the cockpit and a terror event or pilot suicide. they are looking into all of those things.
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steps in each direction. you saw a friend of the two men who boarded the plane and stole the passports. he was questioned by police. reports that they searched the apartments of the pilots and perhaps pointing in the direction of the pilots having done this intentionally. i can tell you this, every day i speak to officials who look at this thing very closely and say with all this information they have nothing to indicate it connects with terrorism. the cia director said they haven't ruled terrorism out and nothing to indicate or rule that in. you have all these potential explanations and looking at all of them and kind of like they are looking over the ocean for the plane and a half dozen different places and no closer to saying that is a likely explanation or in fact one of the search areas is a likely location where the plane went down or disappeared. >> you would think after so many days, they would be narrowing
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the search and all the big circles that it doubled in size. 12 were helping in the effort. do you know if they can help with any more? >> they are. here's the key change now. with malaysian authorities have for a number of days, this radar data showing this plane heading south out to the other side of the peninsula. they didn't share it for a few days and now they asked for help. the ntsb and other authorities have been asked to look at it and figure out the plane. because malaysian authorities are not certain that extra radar data shows that flight path is this claim and as a measure of the lack of confidence in the radar data, they are still looking on two sides of the ocean. if they were sure this was the plane and they would clearly be focusing to the west, but they are looking to the east.
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they are not sure. it's a sign of a lack of confidence. you can see why the family members are throwing bottles at malaysian airline representatives and the information coming out has not been consistent and sometimes contradictory and slow. >> i would be throwing bottles after day and this is day six. thank you so much. coming up, i know a lot of you are watching this closely. you want to help find this plane? you can. if you have a computer. we will talk to a creator of a website that puts the search in your hands, next. ♪ at any minute... ...you could be a victim of fraud. most people don't even know it. fraud could mean lower credit scores, higher mortgage rates... ...and not getting the home you really want. it's a problem waiting to happen. check your credit score, check your credit report, at experian.com.
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. >> it's tough to find a 777 jet. it now double and 27,000 square miles about four times the state of massachusetts. you are about to hear from them in a minute. there few leads to shrink the search area. the more we learned, the more puzzling it becomes. a couple new nuggets. we learned that malaysia police are questioning the friend of these nationals who boarded the plane with the passports and no key to make them here. we have been told the investigation into these two men focusing on human trafficking.
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after spending five days into the days, searching for the areas underneath the intended path under the beijing-bound flight. the military said it may radically changed course and more than an hour later, hundreds of 3450i8s away. malaysian authorities seem to be overwhelmed by this. they are asking u.s. experts to help analyze their radar data. all the while, families of those on board the flight are still clinging to hope. >> i hope they find it as soon as possible. we are hope are if a miracle that they are all still safe. >> i know you talked about this for days and days. how the government reaches out to the u.s. and we need your help to analyze the information.
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>> there many countries in the world that would not have the capability. under the international treaties, it is the state of occurrence, in this case it could be malaysia or vietnam and the state of origin or the state of manufacture that has the primary responsibility here where the accident took place. since we don't know, the state of occurrence is malaysia. that clearly is doing a very good job of actually searching with a less good job of knowing where. >> shouldn't it be honing in? >> it shouldn't really be having such vast discrepancies from the south china sea.
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they are bringing in the ntsb and faa and maybe the uk as well. they will look at the data. to get people in and used to looking at radar. raw radar. perhaps if there is a criticism with the authorities, it is the way in which they didn't get their hands around this information earlier. >> should have called. >> not necessarily that, but an interest in being in the united states or australia. you would have found the authorities on the radar and around the communications and that. >> here's the other question. talking to the correspondent and police coming to the pilot's
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home and found the simulator in the home. >> there was no you tube. this is a guy who just loved it. he was completely and utterly unrelated to flight. this is a man with 18,000 hours of flying experience. he loved to fly. >> moving on, what about the fact that they found no debris of this plane? >> it took them days to find the debris from air france 447. >> this debris field is times bigger. >> you are right. >> if this plane -- it's not that remote. it's not that remote. if the plane came back across and did come down to malaysia, is it somewhere there? >> how would someone have not seen a massive fireball if it hit ground? >> the middle of the night.
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the most disturbing here about the situation is five days or six days in. we will not know what caused this. until we find that out. >> what are we doing. when you look at the search area, you are looking for debris. what if it's possible and i had a guest who said maybe this is a sulley sullenberger moment where it was a controlled landing and it sunk. how are they searching under water without debris? >> by sending boats and ships into the area with a sophisticated sonar that picks up. this is how you do it. you divide the ocean up into blocks. >> i'm getting a diagram here. >> a homemade diagram and you
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dwig divide it into blocks. they go backwards and forwards. it has to be very coordinated. you number them and you literally cross them off as you go. then you do it again and again. if you still haven't found it, the problem here is far from reducing the number of blocks, they are increasing. you look at the video here and from the air searches that we take place, you look at the windows of any of these aircraft and you are looking into the water to see what you can see. look at this. anything at all. it's for hours and hours and hours. >> what about this. obviously they want to find that black box. isn't the issue of the seawater
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affecting a black box if it's not found by x period of time? >> yes. excellent point. however the box is constructed to with stand seawater erosion and all those sort of things and once they find the box in seawater, they don't just yank it out. they keep it in seawater. it will be transported. this gets 99% certain. it's in a sealed box of seawater to protect it. that's what they protect it. that's after two years. they keep it in seawater and it's a question if you were tapped to help with this.
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>> my number one question is what information if any were they receiving with the messages. those messages you got you have not definitively heard from malaysia airlines and from the investigators, i want to know what information they may receive. they are not confirming or denying. they make the engines. boeing has not confirmed and they received any information. it was all sorts of little things. >> you are thinking of your grid back and forth and back and forth. >> five days, one plane and no signs at all. turning to satellite and trying
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. >> all this talk about the missing malaysian air flight 370. without leaving your home, you may help solve the mystery of the missing airliner. thousands are scouring detailed satellite images posted online by digital globe. the colorado firm owned this network and take a look at how this was. >> this is no small airplane and
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it feels like a needle and the ocean is the haystack. that's why a colorado company called digital globe has enlisted the public to find the missing plane. >> it's any sign of the wreckage and the life raft. >> they had the satellites and the images online and the people scoured for anything suspicious. seeing something interesting is an easy click. cnn i reporter thought he saw an image of a plane. by crowd sourcing the images, he put more eyes on the hospital. it's not the first time satellite imagery has been used in this way. to help track tornado damage last year. more recently the floods in colorado. the most well-known example of crowd search for the tragedy occurred after the boston marathon bombings.
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they asked to submit any image or video that might assist in locating the perpetrators. as for the plane, the sheer number of volunteers has overwhelmed the website, a sign of a public willingness to help. >> in many cases the areas covered aro large and hard to find, you will never get to find them. >> cnn, san francisco. >> that's how it is working. a senior director of the data digital globe. nice to have you on. we will get to more on how people can help. so many people have been so interested this this and gone online. the site has crashed. >> yes. yesterday we had a problem keeping up with the volume. it's every ten minutes and they are launched about 34 hours ago
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and the response has been extraordina extraordinary. >> those are insane numbers. when you came up with the idea, how exactly it works. >> the website owned by and inspired by it last year. we aim to have people online and around the world helping to analyze the images. the digital globe operates the satellite in the world. that's great, but how does the information go? this needle in a haystack problem. they are hoping to solve the viewers and those at home right now. >> how does this work? if i am logging on, what am i doing? going page after page looking at satellites? >> that's right. going to the image, we allowed people to come in and identify what they see.
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they can look at ships and oil slicks and other anomalies they might see. this together from hundreds of thousands or millions of incidents working together, they were able to analyze basically where it goes. who is reliable and what's really going on. >> so here's the real question. with all these eyeballs on this screen, has anyone spotted anything helpful where you call up the malaysian government and say you need to take a look at this? >> so that's a really good question. we are looking here and we have had a lot of interesting pieces of debris and lots of ships. because there so many boats and entering governments active, you can see the space and all their
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boats. up until now, there hasn't been a smoking gun in the wreckage or aircraft. >> it is stunning how many days it's taken, but the interest in the story where this plane is and so many people on your website trying to help. if people want to help, this is digital blow. big data digital globe. thank you very much. best of luck to you. >> speaking of satellites, you know some are questioning whether spy satellites could have picked up evidence and maybe an explosion on board this flight. cnn's barbara star is working that angle for us today. what are your sources telling you? >> brooke, what we are learning is that this is something they did not see. u.s. intelligence including the pentagon have been back through all of the data they have from
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satellites overhead and potential radars and sensors in the region and do not see any evidence of a mid-air explosion. no intelligence data showing the mid-air explosion. that may not be definitive that did not take place. let's explain that the satellites that supply overhead is the launch of a ballistic missile. a threat. that would be a very hot steep trajectory of a missile coming off of a coastal region. this happened perhaps over open water and perhaps whatever the event was was not hot enough or long enough to provide the kind of infrared image signature in a satellite and intelligence that they would have picked up. there no ships in the area with any of the radar and thousands of miles away. none of them picked up anything. at this point what the national security agencies are telling us they have been backed with
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everything they collected and for now they see no evidence of a mid-air explosion. >> barbara star at the pentagon, thank you very much. coming up, we are staying on the international mystery. a lot of people have a lot of conspiracies as far as what could have happened. anyone talking about lost? a lot of conspiracies. we will have that for you next. what does an apron have to do with car insurance? an apron is hard work. an apron is pride in what you do. an apron is not quitting until you've made something a little better. what does an apron have to do with car insurance? for us, everything.
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. experience theorists, are they having a great day. the search for the missing jet moving into day and seems everyone had a theory about fate over the missing plane. some of them however may be better. >> reporter: the agonizing wait taking a terrible toll on the hundreds of families who still have no idea what happened to their loved ones and with the wreckage still missing, speculation is swirling. outlandish theories about the mysterious disappearance of flight 370 surfacing all over the internet and social media. alien, an international kidnapping, a hollywood stunt for the remake of "lost"? >> it's accelerated in recent years because of the internet and because in this case the international aspect of the
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story, where you have people piping in with conspiracy theorys from around the world. >> reporter: another theory -- a meteor took the plane down. there was a known meteor in the area at the time the plane took off. could it have hit the lane? given what we know about the flight path, unlikely. then the idea of the miraculous might have happened, that the plane somehow landed near the rocky outcrop of an island called pulau perak, that the passengers are still alive, fuelled by phantom phone calls, family members saying their missing loved ones' cell phones are still ringing. is there anyone on the other end of those calls? doubtful. but it does give the loved ones of the plane's passengers a place to put their hope. all the unknowns and conflicting information are fuelling the fire. people often hone in on the irregularities and oddities in any disaster to weave a larger theory that would help them make sense of it. when off vacuum of information like in this situation, people
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want to fill that vook yum with their own theories like we've seen in other historical tragedies like 9/11 and the jfk assassination and other plane crashes. but you can't blame those family members of the plane's passengers for clinging to hope and trying to make sense of it all. >> especially when the phones are still ringing of those who were on board that plane? bizarre. pamela brown in washington. thanks so much. she touched on the heartache for these family members still waiting, wanting, demanding answers, days of not knowing what's happened, watching search crews trying to find their loved ones. family members are talking exclusive to cnn saying they're still hoping for a miracle. there's a new form of innovation taking shape.
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want to take you to washington, pretty significant meeting just wrapped between the president of the united states and the interim prime minister of ukraine. prime minister yatsenyuk is speaking outside white house. let's dip in for a short minute. >> -- kind of talks have in the barrel not at your head, mainly in case of this barrel is made in russia. so we urge russia to stick to its international commitments and obligations and to stop this unacceptable military intervention into the independent state. we highly aappreciate the u.s.' support both in economic and political terms. and we do believe that in its future the ukrainian government will be ready to deliver real changes. but in order to deliver these changes we need to stop the russian military.
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>> the prime minister speaking, referring to the military intervention p word is watching, this referendum out of the crimea peninsula in ukraine as to whether or not it will vote to join the russian federation. many leaders and the world including president obama saying that referendum would be illegal. also this happening, as we know, u.s. secretary of state john kerry traveling to london meeting with his russian counterpart friday. here we go. president obama, we've turn around some tape, president obama meeting with the p.m. let's listen. >> it is a pleasure to welcome prime minister yatsenyuk to the oval office, to the white house. i think all of us have seen the courage of the ukrainian people standing up on behalf of democracy and on, you know, the desire that i believe is universal for people to be able to determine their own destiny.
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and we saw in the maydan how ordinary people from all parts of the country had said that we want a change. and, you know, the prime minister was part of that process, showed tremendous courage and upheld the principles of nonviolence throughout the course of events over the last several months. obviously the prime minister comes here during a very difficult time for his country. in the aftermath of president yanukovych leaving the country, the parliament acted in a responsible fashion to fill the void, created an inclusive process in which all parties had input including the party of
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former president yanukovych. they have set forward a process to stabilize the country, take a very deliberate step to assure even on its stability and negotiate with the international monetary fund and to schedule early elections so that the ukrainian people in fact can choose their direction for the future. and the prime minister has managed that process with great skill and great restraint, and we're very much appreciative of the work that he has done. the most pressing challenge ukraine faces at the moment, however, is the threat to its territorial integrity and its sovereignty. we have been very clear that we consider the russian incursion into crimea outside of its bases to be a violation of international law, of
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international agreements of which russia is a signatory and a violation of the territorial integrity and sovereignty of ukraine. and we have been very firm in saying that we will stand with ukraine and the ukrainian people in ensuring that that territorial integrity and sovereignty is maintained. i think we all recognize that there are historic ties between russia and ukraine, and i think the prime minister would be the first one to acknowledge that. and i think the prime minister and the current government in kiev has recognized and has communicated directly to the russian federation their desire to try to manage through this process diplomatically. but what the prime minister i think has rightly insisted on is they cannot have a country outside of ukraine dictate
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