ground and broke 19 bones. >> oh, my goodness. turns out if you eat a samona or ta tagalong congratulations, young ladies. i will take five boxes of the tagalongs. let's head up to the newsroom with carol costello. >> have a great weekend. "newsroom" starts now. happening now in the "newsroom" breaking overnight, the search turns west. >> we went from a chessboard to a football field. >> the hunt for flight 370 now focusing on a small group of islands almost 1,000 miles from takeoff. >> there seems to be a real trail that leads to something taking that aircraft, that doesn't just happen by accident. a new report just out that says the plane was deliberately

flown in that direction. >> all we know the transition stopped. we don't know that someone turned them off. developing this morning, new planes that communication systems onboard were shut down separately. the american navy rushing to the new search area. as new details pour in every hour. you're live in the cnn "newsroom." good morning, welcome to this special edition of "newsroom" i'm carol costello. breaking news on the dispeerance of malaysia airlines flight 370. the investigation and the search taking a radical turn. reuters reporting new evidence that someone deliberately and secretly rerouted the plane towards the indian ocean and flew for hours after the last contact. citing military radar and unnamed sources, reuters adds a bizarre new twist and helps open

up a vast new search area. we're covering all the angles. correspondents and reporters and let's begin with richard quest and this new reuters' report. tell us more, richard. >> well, what this report does is take the information that the aircraft or an aircraft was sending these ping messages. basically saying to the satellite, i am here. i am here, i am here. we know that they did this yesterday. the u.s. confirmed that they were looking at this and this was one of the reasons why resources and ships were being move under to the indian ocean. overnight, they seem to have plotted the root of those pings and what they've discovered is that they appear to show the plane on an aviation interstate in the sky. the root upon which the planes

fly. this plane, apparently flew, the word you'll hear, way points. the junctions on the interstates of the sky. go from one point to the next point to the next point to the next point and planes fly these in an orderly fashion. you're told by air traffic control as part of your flight plan to go from point a to point b to point c to point d. now, look, carol, this plane could have been flying, whatever plane it is, it could have been flying them on auto pilot or could have been flying them manually. but what the reuters' report suggests is that if you look at the pings, there is an order to them that shows the plane was not just flying randomly across the sky. >> right, it was in a flight path, still. even when it allegedly made that turn, right? it was still in a flight path, a known flight path. >> it was flying a particular route. but i'm not going to caveat everything i said with this

simple health warning. they are still looking on the eastern side of malaysia, too. they still believe there is a real possibility that the plane went down near the last point of contact in the south china sea. there is not, not, not 100% confidence in this western indian ocean theory, but what they are doing. this is really crucial. the malaysians admitted this morning that they are now handing over information, which they said previously they would not hand over on national security grounds. in other words, international experts are being given the raw data and it's those experts that are basically saying, i'm guessing, well, we look at this, there's an order to this plane's path and this is the way points it was flying and either somebody or the plane itself was flying this in a preordain fashion. >> that's why u.s. ship is going

over to the indian ocean. richard quest, many thanks. i want to bring in tom foreman to walk us through exactly where the andaman islands are and what a large area that searchers are now searching. tom, take it away. >> yeah, carol. we're going to have to adjust our map again today. let me pull this out and show you our general map and talk about what we know from the beginning in all of this. we know where the plane took off. kuala lumpur and flew for less than an hour and flew up to here where it disappeared entirely. these are the search areas that have been put into place since that time. they start would the main search area that was up in this area and then they spread out over land and into the other, more westerly areas. the andamans, like you said, we'll have to adjust the whole map here. if you were it continue right up here, you'd wind up at the andamans and a string of islands. close to 500 of them and they

stretch from one end to the other about 500 miles. they are not that wide across. most of them are uninhabited and most of them and accord tog "wall street journal" india started searching these on their own because they were saying, well, they're out there and general area, we should go look in that area. so, is there a real belief that it went this way? richard really hit the nail on the head there. remember, remember, even what little bit you can get officially about this is that there was some kind of plane, they don't know if it was this plane, they just don't know what other plane it was that seemed to be going this way giving some kind of signal. but an awful lot of the focus will remain back on that original search area. it has to remain there for right now because the only solid facts we have is that it was over here. they know it was here when it disappeared and, if all these radar trails were so clear, if this was so obvious, carol, how could it take six days to figure

out that there is a radar trail? that's information you have right away. this is, again, i think another measure of how much uncertainty there is about this, not that there is certainty of a western route. >> all right, tom foreman, thanks so much. so, let's bring in our experts to try to answer some of these questions. tom fuentes and tom flores. before we dive in, gentlemen. at 1:07 the plane's data reporting system shuts down. just 14 minutes later at 1:21 a.m. the transsponder sent its last signal. now, authorities believe they were turned off separately and deliberately. i'll start with you, bob, does that mean we can rule out some kind of catastrophic event happened? >> i don't think we can rule out anything. this is so complicated and so much unknown.

i think, you know, we all love to speculate and we like to speculate responsibly and i just think the kind of information that is out there makes it enormously difficult to say anything for certain. >> but wouldn't those communication systems go down at the same time if the plane, let's say, exploded? >> well, it depends on what communication systems you're talking about, too. if these are the systems that are reporting the engine parameters and functioning, that's one thing. if it's, if it's what the plane puts out ordinarily, other than that, you're talking about a different place. >> so, tom, i want to talk a little bit more about the reuters report. if the reuters' reporting is right and these communication systems were shut off deliberately, someone, obviously, didn't want the plane to communicate to the outside world. the question is why and who.

>> the problem, carol, is that you have all these unnamed sources being quoted by various news services and we don't know if they're getting those sources are getting information from people third hand that are not immediately involved in this thing or closely involved. we just don't know the qualifications of the sources themselves and then the services put the information out and everybody runs around in circles based on source information that may or may not be true. i think the biggest issue with this of whether it was hijacked or whether it was terrorist or whether it was turned off by the pilots on purpose, all of that hinges on the route that plane took. that's as much of a clue as anything and there's still uncertainty about that. did that plane, in fact, make the turn and start heading for the indian ocean or is it still possible that it's down over the indian ocean or the south choina sea, i should say or the gulf of thailand or over land in vietnam

in some jungle. that's still the biggest mystery of all and that alone will solve a number of issues of how did that plane get there and could it have gotten there on its own with nobody at the controls. >> okay, so, again, from this reuters' reporting, the plane veered off. i'm listening to you tom and bob, i am. the plane veered off course towards the andaman islands, but still flying in a known flight plan. a flight that takes planes to europe or the middle east. what does that tell you? >> if you take that as being factual. i am not answering your question because i can't really answer it, but i think that we should be looking at more in terms of the long term and not just this accident. at the way in which this is being handled, the malaysians

are not doing a superb job of running this investigation. and they apparently give you some information and then they withhold information. how much are they relying on and listening to the europeans and the ntsb who are there with more expertise. i don't know. but i think we've got a mixture of a very, very strange situation that happens to be in a regulatory environment that really isn't capable or isn't running an investigation the way it should be run. >> which is awful for the families. although richard quest, tom, did report that malaysia finally agreed to turn over some militarily sensitive information to u.s. investigators and that should help, right? >> well, if they turn over everything, and if the, you know, the faa and ntsb investigators get to look at all aspects of all of the equipment

and, also, we don't know the age of the radares. this could be really antiquated equipment and it's not easy even for the best experts to actually figure out what each blip means and where that plane was going. so a lot of factors along those lines. i agree with bob that this is not exactly crisis management 101 being displayed there. that doesn't mean the investigation may not be looking at all the aspects aggressively and intensively and doing a diligent job but their reporting and handling of the public reports of that and public affairs or media affairs aspect of it has been terrible. >> that, i would think, is an understatement. you'll join me, again, in just a couple minutes. thank you for enlightening us. always appreciate it. in another new lead chinese researchers recorded after flight 370 dropped off the radar. it could is been caused by the

flight crashing into the sea, but cnn talked with one expert who disagrees. >> there's still not a shred of evidence that that plane has impacted the water or crash landed any place in that search area. >> and searchers in that area have turned up absolutely no sign of the plane. still to come in the "newsroom" new reports raise new questions about what was going on inside the cockpit of that missing plane. cnn martin savidge is inside a boeing 777 simulator with a look at what the pilots may have been facing. hi, martin. >> hey, carol. what we've done is set up everything exactly as what we know from flight 370. we're flying over the south china sea and we're almost to the point they were last heard from. the story, next. [ julie ] the wrinkle cream graveyard.

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a new report from reuters suggests that malaysian airlines flight 370 was deliberately flown towards the indian ocean. reuters cited radar data and unnamed sources. malaysian officials say the plane's communication systems were shut off separately. for a look at what might have happened inside the cockpit, cnn's martin savidge joins us from inside a boeing 777 simulator. take it away, martin. >> good morning, carol. even though it is a simulator, it does feel when you're sitting here very much like the real thing. let me tell you what we have done. we set up the simulation as close to what we know as was going on with flight 370. we took off from kuala lumpur 45

minutes to an hour ago and following the highway in the sky. we're on this pink line right here you can see on the navigation system. the reason we're not touching the controls is just like 370, we're on automatic pilot. we're currently up at an altitude of 35,000 feet. so everything that we know about the plane at the time it disappeared, we are sort of re-creating and reliving here. let's talk about some vital equipment. a lot has been said about the transponder. where is it here? it is actually located right here, right beside me. relatively small and looks rather obscure but vitally important. mitchell is my pilot on this flight. mitchell, explain why the transponder is so important. >> the transponder is so important because without it the folks on the ground, the air traffic controllers would not be able to determine where we are, where we're going and where we came from and how fast we're going and they need that for spacing information. >> the people at home know on a

radar screen this transponder we're flight 370 and at this altitude. can you turn it off? >> yes, you can. here's how you do it. just three clicks to the left and it's off. but you would never do that, mitchell. >> we would never do that. never in flight. >> it would be like driving the wrong way down a highway and that's how a no go this sort of maneuver is, but it can be turned off. let me show you something else this transponder can do. put it back in the normal position. if i was hijacked, a way to use the transponder to send a code. i will not do the code, but a code you can enter and immediately now we're transm transmitting this plane is no longer under the pilot's control. every control center nearby, alarm bells are going off. >> send immediate alarm bells and warnings and air traffic control unit in the area and they're going to be calling us

asking why the transponder's off, why we put that code in. they're going to think it is a hijacking. >> we should point out, carol, allegedly, that has not happened. we have not had any reports that that emergency code was used. one last thing we're on auto pilot. if i want today change course, as it suggested the plane did. if i did this, that's the alarm that tells me, the autopilot has been disengaged. i can turn it off and put us back on course. so, in other words, you can can't take this plane off course without somebody in the cockpit knowing. >> a lot of people asked me via tweet, why can you turn the transponder off? >> that's a question i asked mitchell. the same thing. why can you turn this transponder off? if it's so vital, wouldn't you always have it on? >> in flight you would always have it on. the reason the off switch exists is just because when we land, as you taxi off the runway, you're no longer a factor for air

traffic, so air traffic controllers no longer need to know where you are and they don't need any of your information, you're just going to clutter up their screen. you turn them off to declutter their screens and no longer a factor. >> on the ground you don't need it, you switch it off. that's the reason it exists. you also mentioned the shut down of some of the communication equipment. the radios, mitchell, a number of radios, not just one. they're located right here. >> here and we have radios within range of ground stations. when we're flying over the oceans we use high-frequency or hf and what that does because the used line of sight and because of the curvature of the earth if we're out of range of wind, we can't reach those signals and they bounce off the -- >> let me point something out here. you just don't turn these off like you do the transponder with an on/off switch.

they require a more specific effort to turn them off. >> a much more complicated procedure. >> another system called the a cards that tells the planes what it is doing. you can turn that off, again, but you specifically have to know what you're doing and that implies somebody who knew a cockpit and knew what they were doing, right? >> yes, absolutely. if you're turning off the radios, if you're turning it off, this is somebody who has in-depth knowledge, a very deep understanding of aircraft systems and operation that is going to be doing that. >> we should say, carol, we are still at altitude and if this were the real flight, we would be landing in beijing in about an hour, hour and 20 minutes. that, of course, never happened with 370. >> another question for you. the communication systems were shut down separately. what does that tell your pilot there? >> well, if a malfunction did happen and it's extremely rare that that would have happened,

there's about 13 or 14 redundant systems in this airplane, the systematic shutting down of those systems indicates to me that it was done deliberately by human hand. if it was a mechanical failure it would have been shut off all at once, mechanical systems. turning it off one at a time a strong indication that it was done by someone in the cockpit deliberately. >> okay, we're good. we're going to pause this conversation because i have to take a break, but so fascinating. we're going to come back to you, so, martin, stick around. i'm sorry, sir, i didn't catch your name. what is your name? >> mitchell. >> so, mitchell, martin, stick around. we're going to take a break and be right back with more. if you have moderate to severe rheumatoid arthritis, like me,

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all right. we're going to go back to martin savidge and pilot mitchell in a flight simulator and now flying beyond the point, right, martin, of where they lost track of that malaysia airliner. >> right. we've gone now probably about, oh, just, the area where roughly this aircraft was last known to report. so, we went around that. we can come back it it, again, if we want. it's a simulator, you can do whatever you want, but the point is we designed this whole experiment here, if you will, to emulate in every way that we could, including the outside being dark the flight of 370. the altitude is 35,000 feet. we took off from kuala lumpur.

we are now on our way to beijing, as was the original flight plan. so, everything is set up in that particular way. one of the things we should talk about, carol, is the redundancy factor something the pilot here had mentioned. this aircraft, the 777 200 designed to go long distances and be out in the middle of no where. multiple backup systems and some suggested maybe they lost power and electricity to all of this. there are backups to that, right? >> there are a lot of backups. the electrical system, just that one system has six separate backup systems. the hydraulics is backed up eight times. >> the electrical system you have two generators on each of the engines, two engines. two back-up generators and then you have the apu, another generator in the back of the plane and if all of that failed, there is another manual little thing that pops out of propeller

on the bottom of the plane that the spinning of the air would generate electricity. that's called a rat, by the way. five to six different ways just to back up the electricity, hydraulic system, how many different backups for that? >> eight different systems. air driven or numanic systems and electric, it just goes on and on. it's inconceivable that all those systems would fail at once and just complete failure like that. it's electrically dead airplane. that's unheard of. >> no way to really stress to you, carol, how much safety factor has been built and engineered into this aircraft which is why for professionals like mitch and others, it is so baffling. >> one last question before i let mitchell go, the role of all pilots aviate, navigate and if this plane, was, indeed, flying for four hours after it lost all

communication, what does that tell you about what might have been happening in the sky, mitchell? >> if a plane is flying, if it was off course and it was flying for four hours after last contact, someone's flying that airplane. someone turned it off. of course, someone was flying that airplane. if it was the pilots, if the pilots were flying when they were supposed to be, they would have been communicating with air traffic control. there's weather, volcanoes erupt and we have to go around it, but you're always talking to somebody. we have that saying, navigate and then communicate with air traffic control. always. always communicating. the fact that they didn't communicate, that's the big red flag. that's the compelling factor here. why didn't they do that? >> pilot mitchell, martin savidge, thank you, that was fascinating. we really appreciate that. made so many things so much more

understandable. hopefully we'll do it again at 10:00 a.m. eastern time. i hope so. the mystery deepens into what happened to malaysian flight 370. data reporting system and transponder were turned off separately and reuters citing unnamed sources and military radar new evidence that someone deliberately and secretly rerouted that plane towards the indian ocean and flew for hours after the last contact. so, who was that someone? was it the pilot, co-pilot or someone else? pamela brown is investigating who these men are. pamela? >> well, good morning to you, carol. fascinating look a that flight simulator. like he said, why didn't the pilots communicate? so many unanswered questions about what happened to flight 370 and why it possibly changed course and that has put the two pilots and their previous behavior squarely into focus. we still have a lot to learn about them, but what we do know what was said right in the cockpit right before the plane vanished gives few clues.

all right, good night. those are the last words heard from the cockpit of malaysia airlines flight 370. what we don't know is who in the cockpit said them. was it 53-year-old pilot captain or someone else. like everything with flight 370, the meaning of the words and the pilots themselves are a mystery. just weeks ago our cnn's richard quest was granted legal access into the cockpit with fariq ab hamid. not the first time hamid had a guest in the cockpit. told cnn's piers morgan that while on vacation he and a friend flew from thailand to malaysia piloted by hamid and another pilot taking these photos after hearing ross'

story, malaysian airlines said we are shocked by these allegations. >> hi, everyone. >> reporter: we don't know about the pilot shmad shah. police had been outside zaharie's home every day since the flight vanished. they have not entered or searched the home according to malaysian officials. with new information from officials saying flight 370 may have flown up to five hours after last contact with the pilots. more theories and questions about what happened. was there mechanical and communication failure? could it have been a suicide crash by one of the pilots or did someone enter the cockpit and take over the plane? >> there seems to be a real trail that leads to something taking that aircraft, that doesn't just happen by accident. >> officials say they're looking at every possible scenario, including whether the pilots had any psychological issues.

carol, many people are wondering why malaysian officials haven't searched their homes like they say. back to you. >> that is curious and we're going to talk about that in just a little bit. pamela brown, thank you so much. tom fuentes law enforcement analyst and bob. the last words heard from the cockpit was all right, good night. we don't know who said this. is there a way to determine who said it and is it important? >> i wouldn't consider that to be surprising. i mean, if you're going off as a pilot and you're being transferred from one sector to another, you're talking to a new controller. saying that would seem to me, normal. now, it might be interesting to ask the families of the pilots if they recognize the voice. but i would think, again, that

it would be one of the two pilots. >> and as far as we know, you know, malaysia is not releasig lots and lots of information, there could have been other voices in the cockpit, too, right? >> could have been. sure. i mean, they've showed themselves. in a u.s. carrier or european carrier, you wouldn't find extra people in the cockpit unless they were qualified and probably either faa employees or employees of the airline. >> and, tom, malaysian authorities have been camped outside of this pilot's house for quite some time, but they haven't gone inside. why do you suppose that is? >> that's a great question, carol. i don't know. i mean, it's just a great question. normally you would expect in an investigation like this that they would have not only searched the captain's house and his computers and e-mails and phone records and he has a flight simulator in that house,

look at that if it has any indications of putting in way points to go in a different direction than they normally fly on that airline. you know, that would be critical information and also about his psychological stability and his home life and any other personal problems that might come to play and, actually, for the co-pilot, as well. i also think a key to this would be interviewing present and former flight attendants to ask them about what they think of the stability of the pilots and the frequency they allow guests into cockpit. are they lax in cockpit security when they come out to use the restroom or to come out to get food. you know, those are key people to be interviews, even past employees. so, there are a lot of, you know, expectations that i would have for the way the investigation would go in terms of personnel of the aircraft, the passengers, the cargo, the checked luggage, the caterers,

the maintenance people and the housekeeping people. you know, hundreds and hundreds of people have access to an airplane on the ground before it even takes off and could introduce, you know, something harmful. we just had a guy fall out of the wheel well dead on a plane landing at dulles airport here in washington about a month ago. how did he get in the wheel well and ride on that aircraft as it flew across the ocean. so, you have many questions about the airport security, the ground security and then the personnel and people security in the plane. >> bob, back to this pilot for just a second, by all accounts, he was dedicated. he had lots and lots of experience. he was 53 years old. been flying for, what, 30 years? he built this flight simulator inside of his house although, maybe it was just because he was passionate about his job, but i just wondered if you knew any other pilots who did such a thing? >> i'm sure there are pilots, knowing pilots, i suspect that that is not at all a rare event.

pilots love, love to fly. they love their airplanes and they love their cockpits and all the toys that they have to play with. >> you know, we haven't really heard anything about the flight crew onboard, as in the flight attendants. why do you think that is? >> i don't know the answer to that and it really comes back to, i mean, the flight attendants don't ordinarily have access to the cockpit of the airplane. unless they're going in to be there when one of the pilots leaves. so, i just, i think that there are so many things that should be doing, happening during this investigation, i think that you've got to kind of prioritize where, particularly under the leadership of the malaysian

government, you've got to prioritize and hope that their prioritizing on the really important things because their performance ain't terrific. >> bob francis, tom fuentes, thanks to both of you. a u.s. navy destroyer on its way to help as the search for that missing plane expands to the indian ocean. we'll head to the pentagon for more on the u.s. involvement in this unprecedented search. it's a growing trend in business: do more with less with less energy. hp is helping ups do just that. soon, the world's most intelligent servers, designed by hp, will give ups over twice the performance, using forty percent less energy. multiply that across over a thousand locations, and they'll provide the same benefit to the environment as over 60,000 trees.

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as you know now the plane vanished seven days ago. pentagon correspondent barbara starr joins me with that side of the story. good morning. >> good morning, carol. the ship has hit the northern end, essentially the entrance to the indian ocean and use its helicopters to conduct aerial searches for any evidence of debris field, any evidence of the plane. but earlier today, actually, a u.s. navy surveillance aircraft conducted its first air sweep of the region flying about 1,000 miles out into the indian ocean. didn't find anything and came back. but they're going to keep at it. so, it's worth thinking about why they're looking in this specific area and that's because about 48 hours ago, u.s. and malaysian officials came to understand that they had a number of pings from an aircraft flying out over the indian ocean about four to five hours from the flight path of the airliner.

that ping that they got did not have a transponder associated with it. it matched the kind of airplane that the malaysian aircraft is, but no transponder, which was another clue because we know the transponder wasn't working. they put all that together and that's why they believe this is now an area that they want to look at. it's a very large piece of water, but they're beginning to understand based on the intelligence data where it might be best to look and that's why we're going to see the focus on this area for the next few days. >> barbara starr reporting live from the pentagon, thanks so much. we'll be back with much more on this missing flight. we'll talk to a former undersecretary from homeland security to get his perspective, next. captain obvious: i'm in a hotel.

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the search area has widened considerably for that missing plane, thanks in part to information gathered by u.s. investigators. i want to bring in michael brown, former undersecretary for homeland security. welcome. >> hi, carol, how are you? >> nice to have you here, thanks for being here, michael. i know homeland service is involved. tell us how. >> well, primarily, for example, in the '04 tsunami in southeast asia we were there to help coordinate and it seems to me what ought to be going on here and from the reports i've seen, we are actually doing is helping them set up an incident command system so that we can help coordinate things. i'll give you an example. nasa has the eo1 satellite and we have the iserve camera on the international space station. those can all be used. obviously, we have military assets moving in to help with the search, but i think the most

important thing was there is another story i read in one of the malaysian newspapers which says malaysia is treating this more like a domestic incident as opposed to an international incident. what we really need to do is figure out a way to come in and help make certain that that incident command structure is strong enough that, one, we know what assets are out there, that all of these countries are using and we can pull in all that information. here's the reason why. because if this is something other than just a plane wreck, if this is an incident of terrorism, if it's a hijacking, sabotage of some sort, then we need to help coordinate that with our intelligence communities so they can really understand and find out what took place. >> understand. i know homeland security in the united states wants to help, but it is delicate. i mean they just can't go in there and do what they want, right? >> that's right. that's why before these incidents occur, what we try,

we've always tried to do and i spent numerous months in russia negotiating a cooperative agreement with russian authorities, so, when something happen in a third place that perhaps we could work with the russians to try to do that. now, you tie that in with our relationship with russia today, you see how important it is to have a . . you see how important it is to have a cooperative agreement that says in these things that are outside military issues or combat issues or anything else, why is it important to have these agreements that say, here is how we will work together in these kind of incidents. >> it could be terrorism but the curious thing was -- go ahead. what were you going to say? >> it could be any of those things. i have heard everything other than space aliens.

let's rule that out. i think everything i have heard is it is truly just an accident. china has these new rules for the south china sea. we have had planes shot down in that area of the world before. this could have been a plane that has been shot down because it was violating some chinese air space rule. it could have been hijacked and landed in pakistan. i have heard all of these different kinds of theories. that's why you really need to, one, not rule anything out. at the same time make certain that the search efforts are being coordinated with our intelligence communities and vice versa so we can find out what really took place. it is a huge coordination effort. on top of that, you have the malaysian government that is being kind of fickle at this point. >> michael brown, thanks so much. i appreciate it. >> we're back in a minute.

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happening now, the "newsroom" breaking overnight. the search. >> we went from a small area to i afootball field. >> now focusing on a small group of islands almost 1,000 miles from takeoff. >> there seems to be a real trail to something taking that aircraft. that just doesn't happen by accident. >> a new report that says the plane was deliberately flown in that direction. >> all we know is the transmission was flown in that direct.

>> communications on board were shut down separately. >> the american navy rushesing to the new search area as new details pour in every hour. you are live in the "cnn newsroom." good morning. welcome to the special edition of "newsroom." i'm carol costello. breaking news on the disappearance of flight 370. the investigation and the search take a radical turn. reuters now reports new evidence that someone deliberately and secretly rerouted the plane toward the indian ocean and flew for hours after the last contact. citing military and unnamed sources reuters adds a bizarre new twist. our correspondents and experts will help peel back the layers of this unfolding mystery. we begin with the growing search

area for flight 370. it has now expanded into the indian ocean. tom foreman is here with a virtual look. good morning, tom. >> this mystery is getting messier by the day. it is a great tragedy. we can't get any answers. let's bring in the map and talk about what that has done to the search for this plane. remember the basics here. if we go into the closer vision, you see where the plane took off. it flu few for less than an hou and then it disappeared here. this is what we know. look what has followed. the pattern of searches has grown and grown and grown. now, there has been this shift towards the westmore so because of this idea there is some kind of tracing there. the andaman islands over here is

one of the areas that's being searched. this string of islands stretches almost 500 miles north to south. most of them are uninhabited. there are only a few choices of a plane here coming down. even as people talk about the ideas of the west and there are some signals that suggest it might have gone this way. there is still very serious searching going on along the east along the original flight path toward vietnam. that still remains a very active search zone. the expanded search area is not evidence of greater confidence that it went west but of the complete lack of confidence in any of the leads up until this point and the great mystery that

keeps growing. carol? >> the families continue in their anguish. tom foreman, thanks so much. i want to bring in our aviation correspondent, richard quest. he is in new york. we have captain sean cassidy, the first vice president of the airlines pilot association international. welcome to both of you. >> good morning. richard, i want to start with you. a pink from the plane or a plane that was picked up by satellite. when you plot those, they are prepared to go over the following wave points. they are recognized wave points. think of it as the interstate of the sky. you have these big airways that planes use to get from "a" to "b." on those airways, there are various junctions that you are

to turn right here and turn left here and change altitudes here. these are wave points in an international airway across the sky. when you plot the route that this plane took using the pings, this is what it shows. it shows it went along those wave points. even the malaysians and the united states and even the u.s. navy says, there is not 100% confidence in this information but pardon the pun, in a sea of confusion, you have to follow every lead you possibly can. that's why this has taken on a significance this friday. >> i want to talk about these pings, supposedly, according to reuters, at 1:07 on saturday, the data reporting system shut down. 14 minutes later, at 1:21, in the morning, the transponder

shut down. is there a scenario you can think of where that might happen. >> there are certainly all kinds of possibilities out there but as virtually every single previous guest that you have had on here has stated, unless we can actually get to that aircraft and verify it based upon the data reportings and every other bit of information, that's just another hypothesis. certainly, there is a scenario in which they could be turned off. >> i want to shoot down another theory, if you will. the one theory is out there, it is only a theory, is that this airliner was headed toward the andaman islands, in a known flight path. some people have the idea it could possibly have safely landed there. malaysian officials are scoffing at this. >> there are no chances that a big aircraft coming to andaman can be missed. apart from these airstrips. it cannot land in any other island. >> the andaman islands are made

up to have 500 other islands and it is long and skinny. others say it looks like an airport runway. is it even possible a large jetliner could land on this strip of land? >> highly unlikely. you would require a paved facility, reinforced concrete runway. this thing weighs 250 tons. there is a difference between safely landing and trying to ditch or crash an airliner. that's a different conversation. i think what we need to realize is that, if, indeed, that plane did change course and deviate from the former wave points. there was a reason something had to happen in that airplane to make it intentionally need to make it go the other way. what the previous guest talked about and i think should be a major point of emphasis, is we

need to correlate all this day that that's coming in related to the accident. we need to make sure that we go back to the point where we have the highest level of confidence in where that plane last was and that's where we need to start. there is plenty of theories out there. there is very little correlated and verified data. >> correlated data. richard, i'm sure the investigators on the ground wish there was such a thing but it does not appear there is such a thing right now. >> a voice of sanity from the captain. thank you, captain. going back to the last point of reliable information, that last point of reliable information was when the plane handed over from malaysian air space to vietnamese air space within all right, good night. at that point, the transponder loses. everything else is conjecture. good conjecture, it has to be

followed down. can those -- can the plane land in the andaman islands. i am going to give you a fact. of the andaman islands, only about 36 are inhabited. the editor of the local newspaper on "new day" this morning, told chris cuomo, there is no evidence. no one saw. there has been no report of any plane landing on any of the airstrips, even assuming they could carry a 777. as for the other several hundred uninhabited, because it is under the indian authorities, there are no reports of any untoward activity. these islands are highly sensitive to the indian government and they would certainly know about them, if, indeed, it had happened. >> richard quest, captain sean cassidy, thanks so much. we are going to bring you back for more questions in just a bit. we appreciate your time. >> tens of thousands of square miles and underwater currents

and topography that can make a search even more daunting. if the search turns to the ocean floor, aviation investigators say american expertise will lead the way. >> we have got some tremendous technology. the airplane is in the water. it is likely going to be found. >> for years, the united states and soviet union played the cat and mouse game with submarines. the technology that was developed as a result of that is phenomenal. >> our next guest is at the forefront of that technology serving as the director of special projects at woodshol oce oce oceanographic. >> how taunting is th-- dauntin

this mission? >> it took five years to find the wreckage. it took two years to find the site on the sea floor of the aircraft and then the black box. the search area we have got looking at now, it is at least the range of the plane from kuala lumpur and beijing. it is almost the entire atlantic. it is like going from honolulu to los angeles and los angeles to new york. the first thing we would want to know as underwater experts, what is the water temp, what does the see surface look like. what does the seabed look like? is it mountainous and that area includes some of the flattest and some of the deepest and steepest places on earth. we need some shred of evidence of that plane on the sea surface. >> is there a shred of evidence right now? >> no. again, i wake up every morning thinking, at least we have something to go by.

then, everything gelts refuted. why would they do this to get it to the andaman islands? if it was running for five hours, it is a lot shorter than that. if they landed and left the plane running. i don't know what the focus is on those islands. if it is those islands, the sea floor can be very tricky if it is in the water around those islands. at air france, that last all right, good night, if that is the last known position, that's a great place to start. we should at least have a look beknead th beneath that place on the sea floor. >> i thought they already looked there. >> i don't know. on the surface, they have looked. have they looked beneath the surface. knowing where the plane isn't becomes very important information. while we are expanding the

search area, i would hope there is a taeam underwater scouring the floor of the gulf of thailand having a look and seeing if there is anything there. my sense is we need a big white board with some sharpees and only the facts that are true and real and on the right side, all the things that need to be tracked down. not a lot of evidence to go by. >> i'm going to throw something else into the mix that's confusing. chinese researchers recorded this sea floor event in the waters around malaysia and vietnam about an hour and a half after the missing plane's last known contact. do you put much stock in this? >> it is a lead that needs to be checked out. is it a sizemometer, a listening device -- that's where the

earthquake occurred. we have volcanic activity and earthquake activity. an expert could tell the difference. it is a lead that needs to be checked out. >> you are an expert oceanographer. you have handled these situations before. has anyone reached out to you. >> we have offered, our president, susan avery, has offered assistance through our state department and we haven't heard any requests. we are standing by to help. >> thanks so much for being with us, david gallo. i appreciate it. >> thank you, carol. still to come, recreating what may have happened on 777. marti mart martin savidge is at the control of a boeing 777. >> we are just about to take off from kuala lumpur just as 370 did on that fateful night. we are going to fly the same route. it is a simulator. there is so much to learn, stay

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while there is so much we don't know about the disappearance of flight 370, we can show you what it's like inside the massive jet cockpit. martin savidge is at the controls. he is joined by pilot trainer, mitchell casado. take us through this once again, the simulation of this flight. >> reporter: let me tell you what we are doing right now. remember, it is a sim mu lay tore. what is happening is mitchell casada is the pilot. he is in the left seat. we are on the ground in kuala lumpur. it is nighttime. this is the same circumstance

that the malaysian 370 was at. we are beginning to take off. we are heading down the runway. everything you see mitchell doing is everything that the pilot and co-pilot would have been doing. i'm in the co-pilot seat. it is designed to mirror exactly the course. mitchell was just putting in all the coordinates that we will follow. we have followed their course. we will go with their altitude and move at the plane's speed. all of this to design and give you the feel of what they were going through. we can only go so far. there is the point where the plane simply seems to have stopped and we have had these very mixed reports as to what was and what was not going on. i'll point out a couple of things. this is the main navigation tool here. it is the course. it is the highway in the sky. i believe it has been referred to. we are on that course. we are now climbing in elevation. here is where you see the height. we are going over 1100 feet

approaching 1,000. here is our speed. the goal is to eventually get to 35,000 feet. that's the last known altitude we knew and very shortly, here, mitchell is going to put us into autopilot, because the plane was flying at auto-pilot when it was last referenced. this was everything as it was happening a it was happening that night as we knew it. let's point out something pretty important here. the transponder. it was apparently for some reason off. why did it go off? here it is, this little device, looked small, make look inobjecti inobjecting -- innocuant. they need to predict where that is going to go and be 5, 10 miles down the road to keep it

separated. that's what the transponder does. can you turn it off and let me demonstrate, three clicks to the left over this little knob and now it is off. it doesn't mean we are invisible. the plane will still appear as a flip flip on the radar. we don't know who that flip is and we don't know what their intentions are. like driving the wrong way down the highway essentially in the minds of air traffic controllers. let me put it back on. i will show you something else you can do with this. say you were hijacked, there is way for the pilot and co-pilot to communicate without getting on the radio. they can enter a code. i'll do that. i won't enter the code. you can enter a code like this. now, the aircraft is sending out an alert that everybody on the ground, alarms and red flashing lights say, we have a plane that's been hijacked.

there is no account that signal was ever sent. >> at 1:07 on saturday, the data reporting system was shut down and 14 minutes later, that trance ponder was turned off. tell us about the data responding system. >> there are a lot of things on this airplane that are sending out data. that can be a little broad in that term. sometimes it has been confusing. we are not sure what it is. mitchell, explain, what are the various things transmitting out information. >> you have acar to send short but vicele messages to a ground. we use that the same way you would use a text on the phone. the ground wants to let you know, we have a problem. maybe a volcano has erupted. you need to deviate 20, 30 miles around the course. maybe we need to tell them we

have a sick passenger. specially useful when we are out of the hf range. >> you also mentioned the engines transmitted data independent of what the pilot is doing. >> just to say what their p parameters are at the time. >> the important thing to remember, shutting those systems off, the radio and the acard system off, that is not easily done, it is not an on/off system. >> if you are going to shut down, we call this box, the fmc, you have to have an intimate knowledge of the architecture of this system. it is not an on/off switch. you have to go in there. it is many key strokes to delete the flight plan. when you put a flight plan in here. it tunes in automatically and

you don't have to delete all the radio signals and radio stations. >> what we are saying is that if those systems were shout shut down as has been reported, it means the pilot or co-pilot was intentionally doing it or somebody that knew their way around a 777, 200 flight deck. >> how far into the flight are you now? >> well, we have just taken off. so, mitchell, where are we? >> we're passing 18,000 feet. so this is the point where we would transition to what we call high-level air space. it is just about another 10-15 minutes before we transition to the north/northwestern shore of the malay peninsula and about another 50 or 45 minutes before they get to the point where they lost contact. >> we'll let you fly on. i have got to take a break.

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let's continue our discussion on the last known movements in the cockpit of 370. martin savidge and mitchell casado are in a simulated boeing 777. the plane took off at 12:41 a.m. on saturday. at 1:07, the data reporting sis stip shut down. 14 minutes later, the transponder shut down at 1:41.

at 2:40, the plane lost contact with air traffic control. that's about all we know. so, you are on board this sim mu lay tore and you have taken off from kuala lumpur. where are you now? >> we just reached a cruising altitude of 35,000 feet. while you were in commercial break would have been the time i would have gotten on the address system and told everybody, hey, you can, if you want, unfasten your seat belts, get up and walk around the cabin. that would have been announced. the plane is basically now in automatic pilot mode and let me show you this. this is basically your it may have gait may have gags navigat system. see this one that says b todd,

the last-known reference point. >> we are about 180 miles away. >> we have mr. you goed everything in from the information we had from the knowledge of that flight on his way from kuala lumpur to beijing. i mentioned we are on automatic pilot. if you deviated from course, if this plane turned, here is the way it would happen. you would turn off the automatic pilot. that triggers an immediate alarm. you don't veer off course without somebody knowing. you can shut it off and you can get back on course again but doing that. but what i'm saying is that there is nothing that is done on this airplane without people in the cockpit and in some respects on the ground, knowing what was happening. >> i'm going to ask you the same question about that transponder that i have asked before. so many people ask about that. you can actually switch the

transponder off. why is that possible? >> it's funny you mentioned that. that's the first thing when i got in here and saw it. why is there an on/off switch. that's why when we are on td groun the ground. >> once we've landed, we are off their screens where you don't want to clutter the screens too much. we turn it you have a. we are no longer a factor for the traffic. we don't turn it on again until we are in the air. >> when we're on the ground, we don't need it anymore. we turn it off. if it is so vital, why would we have a way to mess with it. >> another question for mitchell since you are a pilot. so the data reporting system shut down at 1:07. 14 minutes later, the transponder shut down. what does that say to you?

>> that says to me it is very unlikely this was a mechanical failure or an electrical failure or any failure. that says to me that somebody on board this airplane and the flight deck deliberately tried to turn those systems off. why? i don't know. it is something you would never, ever do. it is unheard of. we talk about the redundancy that is built into this aircraft. it is meant to fly long distances over vast, empty oceans. everything is backed up, backed up, backed up. there are at least six backups from the power systems if there would be some kind of failure. i believe, mitchell, we said eight for the hydraulic systems. height drol there are so many redundancies. it is one of the most sophisticated airplanes ever built. it has some of the most powerful

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with the search area expanding for malaysia 370 so is the speculation. they are saying that someone deliberately flew the plane to the andaman islands. two communications systems were shut off separately. joining us u.s. transportation inspector general, mary ski avoe. welcome, mary. i will go through what we know. at 1:07, on saturday morning, the plane's data reporting system shut down. 14 minutes later at 1:21, the transponder sent its last signal. authorities believe they were turned off separately and deliberately. does that mean we can now rule out some catastrophic event

happened. >> they can't say that. all we know is that they stopped transmitting data. there is no way to know if they were turned off in the cockpit or not. what we really have is six data points. we have the point where they turned, the island just past malaysia where they think they got a radio or a radar tracing hit. then, the four data points that were sent from the plane to the satellite. that's all we have. we can't speculate. that's how we help to solve the problem. we can guess. there is no evidence that goes in that transmission that says this was shut off or it just stopped transmitting. it is a very big mystery. frankly, there is no evidence that it is hijacking or terrorism or sabotaged yet. everything is just a theory. >> another theory out there is that the plane went off course and flew for four hours with no

communications. that's one of the reasons why this u.s. ship is going out to the indian ocean to search. so what do we make of that. >> there are several scenarios where things like that have happened in the past. the payne stewart situation where the plane literally crossed the united states. the pilots were not alive or responsive. we were able to track that pl p plane. the united states of america did not have to shoot that plane down. we knew the way it was headed and we knew its capabilities. we knew it would fly along on course until it ran out of fuel. we knew where it was going to come down and no one had to shoot it down t was comi. it was coming down in an unpopulated area. this can travel along on the same course even after it has suffered some catastrophic event, such as a depressurization or a fuselage crack or some kind of an

electrical problem. it would continue on in the line. what we don't have are the exact points. if it continued on in a straight line, that's one thing a plane could do by itself. if it continued to make corrections, if these wave points indicate that the plane was turning, moving around stuff, maneuvering to get into a runway, then you've got pretty much failsafe idea that someone was flying the plane but flying along in a straight line until you run out of jet fuel is no indication that someone is flying the plane. >> geez, it is just so many questions unanswered. mary schiavo, thanks so much. >> part of the reason we are so confused, contradictions and confusion have marked the search for malaysian airlines flight 370. the malaysian government in particular facing sharp criticism for how it has handled this mystery so far. edi pomporus is a security and

threat assessment expert. she joins me from new york. evi, i'm sorry. i mispronounced your name. i apologize. >> thank you for having me. >> what do you think is the reason for all of these conflicting reports? >> as far as for the conflicting reports coming from the malaysian government, if you think about it this way, would you want all this information out there initially, as far as even them not checking those passports for those stolen passports correctly, them not handling the situation. it puts blame on the government in the country. a lot of it is the government trying to deflect and prevent any bad publicity on their part so to speak. it makes them look bad. as far as fricterrorism goes, everyone has been trying to avoid that topic of hijacking. it is still a very strong possibility. it has always been a strong possibility. nobody wants that.

nobody wants to have that on their track record. that's where the issue comes in with malaysia. >> 239 people are missing. their family is in eng wish. isn't it time to put embarrassment aside? >> it is a different part of the world. their customs and way of thinking is drastically different than ours. we are a little more forthcoming and don't have such a strong hierarchy as they do. a lot of information, they are not sure what's going on. they are overwhelmed. that's very clear. the head of the defense came out and is he, look, we're trying to do a search and at the same time trying to coordinate all these other countries involved. you can tell there is a lot of stress there. you are trying to fly the plane and deal with the united states and china. other bigger couldn't interest is, chiefs coming in to tell you how to do your search. let's talk about the terrorism angle. if it was terrorism, no one has

claimed responsibility. is that unusual? >> it is unusual. but, let's look at it this way. let's say it is terrorism. let's say there is a group out there who intended to do this but for whatever reason, it did not go as plan. perhaps there was a different plan. the plane was meant to do something else. maybe you would not want to come out and say, hey, we want to take claim for this. because maybe there is a different agenda or something else planned for later on or maybe they are sitting back an watching the whole world confused and not knowing what's going on. if i were terrorists and i were watching this, i would get a pretty good chuckle out of this. you are causing, chaos, confusion and panic. that's the goal of terrorism. >> homeland security and the secret service are involved. what are they doing? >> homeland security is going to be very heavily involved. now, that we see u.s. officials strongly involved, we are going to see better answers. the first several days, we let the foreign government, specially malaysia, handle it

but now that the u.s. is involved in taking a more active role, we are going to see stronger, more tangible evidence. the information we have is just so ambiguous and complex and confusing. that's the issue. we are following all these leads but it can be mechanical but it can be terrorism. i think, as we're seeing the days progress, it is leaning more toward some type of human, nefarious ac. i think that's the agenda or the angle everyone is looking toward. >> evy, thank you so much for your insight. i appreciate it. our martin vsavidge is insie a flight simulator. let's check back from with him. hi, martin. >> reporter: this is us, the triangle, 35,000 feet, night, over the south china sea. what we're coming up on is b-todd. this is the point of the last known reference for flight 370. we're almost there. it's a stationery and gifts store.

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towards. we have no reports of injuries or tsunami warnings, that's important, because ships are going to be in that area. it just adds to the whole weirdness, the sadness around this missing plane. let's return to our discussion of the last-known moments inside the cockpit of malaysian airlines flight 370. martin and mitchell casada are inside a boeing 777. this is about the time when the data reporting systems are said to have shut down. >> right, carol. let me tell you where we are. we are at 35,000 feet. pretty quickly after we took off, the pilot, mitchell, put us on autopilot. you can see the readout here, 35,000 feet. this is what the pilots would have looked at as far as their

navigation. it is similar to the gps in your car but a lot more complicated. we are coming up on igary, a checkpoint in the sky at which this aircraft will turn and make a slight turn to the right. b todd is the last point where they were seen. it was right about the handover from malaysian air space into vietnamese air space. it is a crucial time, no the a time when a pilot or co-pilot would say, go use the bathroom. >> any time you are crossing into another country's air space, you have to check in. you have to check in and say who you are, your intentions, your altitude, your air speed so that they would know and they are on the program, with the program. >> i asked you, the last words

recorded are, all right, good night. as a pilot, does that sound odd or unusual? >> no, not at all. that's as per normal operations. nothing usual about that. both of these guys would have been in the cockpit at that time for sure. >> as far as the shutdown as you mentioned of the data reporting, right now it is inexplicable to a professional pilot. there are a number of different pieces of equipment that report. some of them are the radios. that would be the pilot. other pieces are mechanical, the engines. how they shut down, it is not easy. it would have been deliberate. they didn't all go at once. >> that data recording system would shut down. what would the pilots be doing?

>> every flight we have what's called the pilot flying the pf and the pnf, the pilot flying and the pilot not flying. it is customary for the captain to be flighting left seat. if he was flying pf, he would be making sure that the plan is on track, flying, mentally engaged. first officer, pnf, pilot not flying, checking the weather, talking to air traffic control. >> remaining engaged. what's interesting is if there is not an input by somebody, a pilot, in this airplane, every ten minutes, the airplane sends off an alarm to make sure that, hey, you guys didn't fall asleep? there is an alarm. if you don't push a button or do something, that way, the plane keeps the pilot and co-pilot engaged. they aren't up here playing video games. they have to stay very focused.

if the data reporting system suddenly shut down, how would the pilots handle that? >> if it was a mechanical failure. >> if the data reporting systems just shut down, what would the pilots do? >> if the data reporting system shut down, like the acars, that's a relatively big deal wechdeal. we would talk to dispatchers and maintenance. they are the folks that make the flight plan. they follow us along the route the entire way. we would talk to them and try to trouble shoot it. >> why is it they are not communicating? you brought this up, carol. there is a certain protocol that i a vee eight. >> the number one rule in flying

is, we are always flying that airplane. always fly the airplane, afate, navigate, communicate. >> communicate is a little lower on the totem pole of concern. it could be if you have the points going out an there is something happening in the plane and the pilots are focused on a v afating and navigating. >> the pilots have the most time to communication at this point. if it was landing or takeoff, i could see they wouldn't communicate. that flight that went into the hudson river, no time to talk. it just said, unable. if you are higher up, 35,000 feet, there is plenty of time unless something happened dramatically, a catastrophic explosion, anything like that. by now, i think we would have seen evidence of that. >> of course, the other

question. >> the data recording system shut down and 14 minutes later, the transponder shut down. your at that point. take us through. >> the transponder is right here. it looks pretty small. it is vitally important. it has a switch. it is right here. to turn it off, it is three clicks to the left. >> could you bump it accidentally? what would happen if it suddenly goes off? >> chaos on the ground. alarms would be going off left, right, and center on the grown. they would be asking us what's going on, trying to determine what the problem is? they would be scrambling jets. this is a major, major event. >> the next thing this could be used to do is communicate.

there is a hijacking because the pilot could enter a code. it transmits. on the ground, that's recognized. that's what mitchell is talking about. one of the first things they would do is let's get somebody up on that plane. >> that may have happened. the malaysian government is not telling us. tell us that again. if the data reporting system shut down and also the transponder shut down, there would be many things happening on the ground. what would be happening? >> they would be aware on the ground and reacting how? >> they would be talking to the company. we are sending tol emmet tri back to the ground. we would be asking if there is anything they saw abnormally. if the acars and the transponder went out, we still have radios.

>> the ground would be challenging you. >> absolutely. >> they would be saying, what is happening, 370? >> there was a 121.5 emergency frequency anywhere in the world. you speak on that frequency and it overrides any other communications. if pilots were having those problems, could not communicate, they could go to 121.5. >> that's why it is still such a mystery, carol. >> martin savidge, mitchell casado, thank you so much for a fascinating glimpse. thank you for joining me today. i'm carol costello. "at this hour" with berman and michaela after a break. captain obvious: i'm in a hotel.

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