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president hit the target. thanks for watching. please come back next saturday. it is good to see you. we're always grateful for your company. good saturday to you. i'm christi paul. >> i'm victor blackwell. 10:00 here on the east coast. you're in the "cnn newsroom." ♪ if you're just waking up this morn and you thought when you went to bed last night you knew the theirive of this missing airlines flight 370 it has taken a dramatic turn overnight. we just learned in the last hour that the homes of both the captain and now as well the
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co-pilot have been searched by police. and cnn teams say they saw officials carrying out small bags from the copilot's house. but it's not clear now if they had those same bags when they went inside. let's put that in context. overnight malaysia said the investigation is once again focused on the crew members and the passengers as he suggested a hijacking is a possibility. he's now calling the flight's disappearance, quote, deliberate. >> the search area is focused on two quarters now. i want to show you the updated map here, as you can see it because it may be the first time you're seeing it today. this search is massively expansive. it goes as far north as kazakhstan and as far south as the southern indian ocean there. the search in the south china sea we know has been called off. >> investigators are also focusing on the signals that the plane kept sending to an orbiting satellite for hours after it lost radar contact.
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>> trying to figure out how long and how far this plane flew before it stopped responding completely. that could be incredibly obviously hard to determine. we want to go to cnn's jim clancy who is in kuala lumpur, malaysia. investigators have vastly widened where they're looking. how is this determined, do you know? >> this was determined by a satellite that reaches out and handshakes, looks for that aircraft, tries to plot where it's going to be, one time every hour. now, the acar system that sends back data from the plane about, you know, it's bearing, its airspeed, its s altitude, all those things, somebody turned that off. but it didn't turn off the ability to the satellite going up in orbit trying to reach out and handshake with the airplane and say, where would i point my antenna if i really want to
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contact you? that's what they use to create that map. anywhere along that line, that's where the plane could be. >> we had technical issues with jim clancy. the line is the northern corridor. you see northern thailand into i'm going to draw it again here for you, into southern kazakhstan and the southern corridor starts near indonesia and then swings southwest all of the way up the western coast of australia. that is the new area that we heard from the remarks. here we go, the drawing the line again. the remarks from the prime minister earlier this morning. >> the reason that -- part of the reason that it might look bigger to you as well is because, remember, now we're hearing not only did this plane fly for five hours but for seven hours, which is interesting because it would have taken eight hours and 15 minutes to get here and 6 hours 45 minutes to get to kazakhstan.
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possible to kazakhstan in that period of time. >> and seven hours past the last point of contact. so not seven hours from, you know, liftoff, from takeoff, rather, from kuala lumpur but from the last point on that waypoint. four words that are becoming important, those four words, all right, good night. those are the last four words heard from airlines flight 370. after that the plane flew into the night and disappeared. >> what everybody wants to know at this point is who said those words, who turned off that transponder that transmits vital information to the ground? renay marsh is live for us in washington. thank you so much. wondering at this point in the investigation how is the u.s. helping? >> good morning, christi and victor. and i just want to talk a little bit about that all right/good night. it is actually a very common term that's used when you're moving from one airspace and they're doing the switch over to go to the next. an as we understand, that happened as they were leaving the malaysian air space and
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going into vietnam's airspace. so that makes sense. it's a very, very common phrase. but more on the data and what we're learning. we know that more than 40 ships, more than 50 aircrafts later on this day eight of the search for missing flight 370, it has taken quite a drastic turn. here's why. the ntsb and faa are using technology never intended to be used for this purpose. they're analyzing satellite data that picked up the plane in the air more than five hours after the ground lost all communications with the plane. based on this new satellite data we have now a brand new timeline for the path of the missing plane. we already knew that the plane stopped transmitting data about the health of the plane, the engines, 25 minutes after takeoff. 14 minute later the transponder shuts off. the two systems they went off separately and malaysian authorities said today they believe that that is an
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indication that it was a deliberate act. had these two systems stopped simultaneously, that's something that we've seen before. it could be an inflight break-up or in the case of twa flight 800 when a malfunction led to the plane exploding midair, all of the signals were lost at once. so they're sus spipicious about that. more on what we know about the missing plane's flight path. there was question about whether it was truly flight 370 that made that turn west, military radar picked it up. and today malaysian authorities say they now have confirmed that was indeed the plane. and this new satellite data we're talking about ntsb and faa, further supports that the plane was indeed heading west. it's satellite that detected the plane in the air and detected up until 8:11 a.m. now, that is so critical because that means that the plane was in the air more than six hours
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after people lost all communications with this plane. people meaning the people on the ground. we know that the plane had some seven hours worth of fuel so at this point, at that last point that the satellite picked it up, it was possibly close to running out of fuel or perhaps at some point it ran out of fuel. >> rene marsh, thank you so much for the update. >> let's bring in cnn law enforcement analyst tom fuentes. tom, i want to look at this map. if we can put the map up with tom so viewers understand the context of this question. we see these two paths here. the southern corridor, if this is where this plane was, the last ping we got from the satellite, if someone deliberately took control of this plane, it doesn't look like that path goes anywhere. so me question is which one has more credibility? which one is more probable, that it went south and someone deliberately took a plane nowhere or that this went north
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but then you consider that there would be radar all over all of these countries. and you see where it ends, in a pretty dangerous neighborhood. is there one that you give more credence than the other? >> hi, victor. i have to admit personally i don't give much credence to any of this the way things have gone the last couple of days. had that plane going in so many different directions, up, down, and sideways. and we're relying on technical experts to tell us what they're interpreting from the satellite signals. i hate to be so cynical but it's almost like reading tea leaves. that plane could be on top of mt. everest in the himalayas, according to that flight path, or it could be 15,000 feet at the bottom of the indian ocean, according to the southern flight path of that. and i don't know how accurate these graphics are or what they're based on. that's the other side. should that be a large circle that encompasses all the indian ocean, including eastern africa.
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you know, could they have gone that far? could they have turned? you know, so how they're determining that exact northerly and southerly route and how wide that route could be or whether it could be a big circle, i think is somewhat of a mystery and we don't have enough technical explanation and we're relying on these, you know, descriptions by the authorities. and i'm not blaming the authorities. i'm sure they've gotten an array of conflicting technical information from their experts. i mean, this is like when your computer breaks and you cal-tech support, what's going on and you get different explanations. so that's the problem with this. and i don't know. yesterday we had that definite y-shaped split between two aircraft. i said it was like an fbi fugitive case where the people tell you the bad guys went that way and north or south doesn't help. we still have the same problem. how accurate is this technical information as to how long that plane was in the air and what
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the possible area of the search needs to encompass. and i'm being literal, according to that northerly route, it takes it over the himalayas. >> tom, you bring us something i was wondering about because we're getting some very distinct verbiage from the p.m. today of malaysia. he was saying that the pran transponder was switched off near vietnam, deliberate action by somebody on the plane. he said, we can confirm the primary radar contacts now do identify mh-370 but as we all know from the beginning, they've been saying that transponder on the plane was deliberately shut off. if the transponder which identifies the plane was shut off, how can they be so certain they were tracking 370? >> good question. i'm not certain they're certain. i know he's saying it now but for seven days in a row they weren't certain about much of anything. and i know now they have the
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best experts in the world looking at the raw data, the faa and ntsb experts from the united states, which an enormous help. but they're relying on, you know, the quality of the machines that were monitoring this, the radars, do we know how old the radar units are, the satellites, the pings, the handshake, the terminology. much of the terms being used here are, you know, we're not used to hearing those kinds of terms and we don't know exactly what they mean. and being sympathetic to the prime minister, you know, these gentlemen are giving these press conference, english is their second language. so the terms that they use or the slang that they use, you know, could be something that their technicians, their tech support, is telling them trying to put it in layman terms of what's occurred or what they're analyzing. so i just think that, you know, we have had a tendency over several day, even the beginning of this thing, to put things in
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very technical terms and say, this is what they have to do or this is -- it could have been this but probably were this. and i don't know right now if you can still say the direction for sure. as far as the idea that that plane is being flown by someone, you know, that's something that has been considered from the first day. i think their only now -- i think they wanted to be in denial but i think only now they're saying, okay, i think what people have been saying all along may be true, that plane may have been in the hands of a pilot or two pilots that, for whatever reason, decided to take that plane off course and fly it away or they were hijacked by someone else who got in that cockpit and did that. >> tom fuentes, thank you for helping us understand this. it changes. we're in day eight and there have been conservatively eight theories about where this plane could be and where it went and who was in control. again, tom, thank you. malaysian authorities, although there are many changing
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theories, there are some new clues in the mystery of this missing plane. >> they believe as we said, that someone inside that plane deliberately diverted it. we're going to ask our experts really, what could have happened at the end of the day here? plus, how could have plane -- i know this is what you guy rsz wos are wondering. how could a plane plunge tens of thousands of feet from the sky and nobody has a clue what happened? we're going the take you inside a boeing 777 and show you what the movements of flight 370 may have looked like. what does an apron have to do with car insurance? an apron is hard work. an apron is pride in what you do. an apron is not quitting until you've made something a little better. what does an apron have to do with car insurance?
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you see there. everybody is wondering, but who was it? why was it? where was it going? >> joining us now pilot and aviation attorney arthur rosenberg. arthur, good to have you this morning. you know, we heard from the malaysian prime minister saying again someone deliberately acted in this case. but stopped short of calling it a hijacking. why? >> well, first of all, i think you have to take a look at what we know. we know that the airplane was en route to beijing. 45 minutes out, voice communication was terminated after the captain or the co-pilot said essentially, good night. minutes later, the transponder was turned off. primary radar has the plane turning around towards the southwest. and then what i talked about a little bit yesterday, what was the primary radar hits, without the transponder on, was still
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able to track the airplane to four unique waypoints in the sky, points in the sky where the plane was directed to. those are all intentional acts. now, what we learned a little bit from yesterday was that we had these altitude variations, 45,000 feet down into the 20,000s of feet. but i don't give a lot of weight to that because the farther the airplane gets away from the source of the radar the less reliable they are. what we get into the mix is in the satellite information which came to yesterday which gives us now that northern route and southern route. but i think what we can say definitively, consistent with the prime minister of malaysia is this was an intentional act. this airplane was being flown. i think it's premature to say that someone broke into the cockpit, it could have been the flight crew, but we know that
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these acts rf flying this airplane the way it was were done intentionally. >> so let me ask you this, arthur, because i've seen this question. i thought of, seen it posed on my facebook and twitter accounts. if this was some sort of act, is it surprising to you at all, is it even possible, that not one text, you know, with everybody who has a phone and technology in the sky now and with wi-fi being available, is it odd at all that there would not have been one text from anybody on that plane relaying any information to somebody else? >> yeah, the simple answer to that is no. first off, when the plane lost contact, if you look at that as the start of that, when things started to go bad, there is no capability for a cellphone signal to be picked up by any ground base facility. you're just out of range. >> okay. >> and this particular airplane, unlike a lot of airplanes that we have in the united states, was not equipped with internet
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that can be binged down to planet earth. these people may have been trying to text but there was nothing outside the airplane listening or able to receive that signal. so essentially they were texting, unfortunately to deaf ears. >> that's good to know. >> there was one other comment, if i may. >> yeah. >> i was listening to tom. you know, the difference between the northern route and southern route here, you know, which would you think the plane most likely took. you know, i think we're making some assumptions that we have all the information that's out there. you know, militaries, the united states, malaysia, nobody really wants you to know their radar capability, their forensic capability. but i would say where there's smoke there's fire. if you look in the south indian ocean, we have the uss kidd, a $2 billion destroyer, and a poseidon aircraft, boeing 737,
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out there listening, putting sonar bowies in the water, trying to pick up things from the digital flight data recorder. i would say that the focus of the united states assets in that area probably gives us the best clue of where that plane probably went. but that being said, if i wanted to use this plane for some purpose later on, i would head north, not south. but, you know, it's a work in progress. >> yeah. and we're only working with the best information that's available and after the news conference from the malaysian prime minister, that is today's best information. arthur rosenberg, good to have you. thank you for adding your voice to the conversation. >> thank you, sir. >> thank you for having me. it's hard to comprehend really how big the search is. we're showing you the graphic, but the area for this plane now. it encompasses several country, an ocean. it's huge. ted miers will map it out for us
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basically. this is such a vast area. i mean, obviously we're talking about the bay of bengal, as you said, indian ocean, several countries. malaysian officials say the plane's last satellite communication was in one of two possible corridors. chad myers, thank you so much for being here, chad. i know you are going to walk us through exactly what we're talking about. >> we're talking about a ping that happened at 8:11 local time that is going to change this search dramatically. a ping almost like your gps pirng no your car. the way the car gips works is looking at t a number of different satellites. let's say one is here. another one says you're here. and another one says you're here. if all three of those cross right there the gps knows that's where you are. what we don't have three, we only have one. so now we don't have an intersection, we have a line. and that line is a long arc. it's as long as the fuel of the plane, one way or the other. but at least now it narrows the
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width of the search. we're not searching boxes anymore. this is the original area here, box here, box here, box here. it was just getting bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger. just continued to go one day after another. so what we had yesterday, we talked about this for just a second because this is interesting. remember the chinese said there was an earthquake hour and a half after the plane went missing? well, the chinese believed that it was right there, the earthquake. well, because it was only two seismic recorders. so now we with had two lines. didn't have three. so the chinese thought it was there. but after the united states geological survey looked at this they said, no, we found another recorder and now we know there was another arc right there, so that point doesn't exist, this is the real point.triangulation.
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this area would be anywhere here. the original area. that's not the case anymore. now we have an arc from a ping of a satellite. matt, go ahead. keep moving this because it's my clicker here doesn't seem to be working. what we have. let's talk about this. here's the satellite in the middle of the ocean. it heard something at 8:11. this is its potential circle. now at some point in time as we go back and look at all the other satellites at 8:11, we might find another ping, another satellite may have found said, hey, there's something right there. if another one says, wait a minute, i found this, then all of a sudden we don't have a line anymore, we have a point. if we get one more, even one more would be so great right now because you have that. this is the potential line and one more satellite would say, no, i heard that. that would mean here or here. narrowing the area so much. what we have right now though is an area somewhere between because we know how fast electricity moves, how fast the ping moves, that's about where our search area turns into.
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i know it looks longer but, in fact, it's much smaller because it's only a narrow band. probably only 20 miles wide. looking for debris as well. but we're also looking for a plane that may have landed anywhere along that line. that's something going for us today. different than yesterday. >> that is the truth. my goodness. >> that, i understand. >> yes, thank you so much. >> all right, chad. thank you. >> you're welcome. all righty. stay with us. the two pilots of flight 370, the other news this morning is their homes have finally been searched, eight days after this plane disappeared. the prime minister of malaysia say the crew and passengers, they are now the refocus of investigation. ♪
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for our coverage of the mystery flight 370. mystery is is what it's become now on day eight. the signs today pointing to a deliberate act rather than a catastrophic event. so with that known or believed, where does the investigation go from here? >> let's dig deeper here into what this latest development means. jim matthews is executive editor of "aviation intelligence network." what's your reaction to the comments from the malaysian prime minister today that someone deliberately diverted this plane? >> well, i think that might be more helpful at the end of the investigation to understand kind of the motivations and what was happening. in terms of the search, i think it helps to narrow down your search somewhat to the arc that chad described in the previous segment. but as far as the deliberate act versus the accident, the priority right now is to find p airplane, and all that really
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did for us was to give us those two arcs to work with which does narrow the search area down. >> jim, we know that the prime minister also said they're refocusing their energies on looking at the passengers, the pilots, the crew that was onboard. one of the things that people have had questions about is the fact that the captain, zaharie, had built a simulator in his home. is that common? >> well, look, i know lots of pilots that have simulators in their homes. i certainly wouldn't waunt to speculate or focus on that. that's up to the law enforcement authorities to decide whether that's relevant or not. the search planners are include that but have probably cataloged over a thousand clues right now and that's one of many that they're going to be running down the ground. >> i think the video we're seeing here is of earlier this morning when those crews finally got into the homes of both the
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captain and the co-pilot here. and this is a first today that we know they've been stationed outside the home for days. they finally went in and some did come out carrying some bags. but we don't know if those bags were -- >> bags they carried in as well. >> i want to know about this northern arc, this northern corridor, as the prime minister called it. is it realistic at all to think that a plane could have flown over china, over the other country, military installations here, and there would be no record of it? >> it's plausible. it's certainly out there in terms of statistically likelihood but it is plausible depending on the conditions during the flight, depending on where the radar was looking, depending on their route of flight. at the same time, remember, one of the reasons you got that arc drawn there is because people have made the deduction that it is possible that that was the
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flight path that that airplane took. part of that deduction has got to come from radar traces. so it's not necessarily indicative that it disappeared 100%. it's possible that we're drawing, connecting dots to come up with those two arcs. not being in the search planners' rooms i can't say that's what they've done. if i were the search planner that's what i would be doing. >> one of the things they were talking about, too, is that this -- if this 777 lost power, let's say, even though they're saying this was deliberate, there are five or six backups to the electrical system, there are eight backups to the hydraulic system. can all of that be manually overridden by somebody in the cockpit? >> it would be fairly difficult. you know, the systems that we're talking about and have been talking about really overnight, those two systems can be disable with some fuses. so that is quite plausible. but i don't think that's really what we're talking about.
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i mean, we're talking about the transponders, we're not talking about all of the systems being disabled simultaneously. >> considering what we know about the systems that were disabled, the transponders, just a few flips of the switch. we heard from the inspector general of the at the time of transportation, that she said in order to turn off azcars to get to the other system you would to go to the belly of the plane, it's not just reach for a button. from what we know do you believe that one person could have managed this or this could have been two or three people if that's, in fact, what happened? >> well, look, to be honest, i don't have a personal theory. i know several pilots who believe that a competent and knowledgeable pilot could have disabled the systems just by undoing the fuses. i don't know necessarily have my own theory on that. i do know some pilots that believe that's possible. i don't think you necessarily have to get down to the belly of the airplane to do this.
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>> all righty. jim mathews, we appreciate your expertise. thank you for sharing it with us today. >> thank you. just a moment ago we talked about turn off the transponder, just a few flips of the switches there. up next we're going take you inside a 777 to we show you what it takes to turn off the transponders
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most people, most of us can only imagine the agonizing that's going on for these families of those on board malaysia airline flight 370 as they wait day after day to learn the fate of their loved ones. and then there are some people who know exactly what they're feeling and how much pain they're going through. those who have been through it themselves. >> and with that we want to bring in heidi snow, she lost her fiance in the 1996 crash of twa flight 800. heidi, boy, thank you so much for being with us. we appreciate it. i'm wondering, as you're watching this and you have such a personal perspective on this, people want to do something but nobody knows what to do for these families.
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what can we say to them? what can be extended to them that helps in this moment of uncertainty? >> one of the most important things i found, which was what led me to found the organization that i run is, i had met a woman who had lost her fiance on panam flight 103 that crashed eight years earlier. being able to sit with her and talk with her and talk about him and be with somebody who has been there before, was tremendously helpful, which is what led me to found access aircraft casualty emotional support services because we all, with almost all of our incidents, there is a waiting time. in my case i had to wait five weeks before my fiance's remains were found. during that time i did everything i could to keep him alive and i held on so much hope that somehow maybe me he didn't board that plane, somehow maybe he got rescued. i was so critical in my process.
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but it was really helpful to talk to somebody else who had been there before. and now we have -- >> i'm sorry to interrupt. >> now we have a -- >> go ahead. >> and now in our organization we have over 250 grief mentors who all lost people in past air disasters who are on-call for these families and other people affected by air disasters to help them through this process because we all remember that waiting time. it was just -- it's so difficult. >> and there's -- i was going to say there's a vast difference between sympathy and empathy. someone who feels sorry for you and someone who has felt what you are feeling. will you reach out to these people who are waiting for this news? >> oh, absolutely. i mean, we're here for them. and one of the things that we noticed when these incidents occur is we tend to get a lot of calls for help from people from past air disasters because it brings us all back to day one. and everyone wants to talk about what they went through and make the -- they all empathize and
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really feel close connection to these families that are going through this process. >> it sounds like what you're saying -- >> it's really -- >> i'm sorry. it sounds like what you're saying is we need to let them talk. when you were in, you know, your moments and do you believe these people as they're in this moment, do they want -- do they have things to say? do they want to be heard, do they want to talk? how do you keep them from wanting to isolate themselves? >> right. i mean, i find that most people do want to talk about their loved one and keep them alive and in talking to people who call us so far they just want to talk about their loved one and they don't speak about them being gone. they speak about who they are and that they're still alive in many ways. and that's -- that was a huge crutch for me, to be able to have that hope and i really needed to cling on to that to get through the early weeks of this following flight 800. >> what do you think the role in
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the healing process or coming to terms with it or keeping hope, holding on to hope? what's the role of all the different theories? >> i think in this case it's a very important part of the process. i bheen, one thing i do remember is when their remains are finally found i had to start all over again with a whole new grieving process and new perspective, accepting the reality was really difficult. by this time i really needed the ability and events to talk about him and do anything i could to keep him alive and i just find that when we get our calls that's what everybody is doing and everybody is clinging on to that hope. it's a really important part of the process. and later on down the road, depending on what happens, you know, we're there for them as well and have to revisit it from a different perspective. and that is difficult. i feel like there are two grieving process for me. one was the waiting time and
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making sense of it all and holding on to hope, and then when the reality set in i had to start all over again. >> heidi -- >> that is what -- >> we just -- i'm sorry. we just wanted to thank you so much for sharing your voice, for sharing it with them, for sharing empathy. we know you're making a big difference. we appreciate you taking time to talk with us today. thanks again. >> heidi, thank you. >> so sorry for your loss. and that does it for us today. breaking news coverage continues throughout the day. we want to be sure that you stay with us here over the next hour of "cnn newsroom." >> want to turn it over to our colleague now fredericka whitfield. >> good day to you all. appreciate that. it is the 11:00 eastern hour op the "cnn newsroom" which begins right now. two big breaking stories this hour. first, the hunt for flight 370. we're learning her about the
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potential path of that flight and what may have happened on board the plane. our extensive live coverage of this fast-moving story all day right here on cnn. plus, this hour, world powers prepare to take decisive action against crimea's vote to leave ukraine. just one day before that referendum while thousands take to the streets in crimea and moscow and the atmosphere is intense. we begin with new clues to the mysterious disappearance of malaysia airlines flight 370. there have been major developments over the last few hours. here's what we know right now. malaysia's prime minister says investigators have confirmed with a high degree of certainty that the plane's communication systems were disabled in a deliberate act of to commandeer the jet. they're zeroing in on the crew
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and passengers. malaysian police searched the home of the pilot today in kuala lump lumpur. they continue to review the backgrounds of the crew and passengers but so far have found no link to terrorism. satellite signals now indicate the play plane may have been airborne for seven hours after it lost contact with ground control. and radar shows dra mat click changes in altitude during that time. officials have also concluded it likely flew along one of two disdinkt paths. the first, north. all of the way up to the border of kazakhstan. the other south toward the southern indian ocean. and that information has substantially changed the search area. we have correspondents covering these new developments from across the globe. andrew stevens is in if malaysia and rene marsh in washington. let's begin with the latest on the investigation with rene marsh, follow that live from washington. where do things stand right now? >> fred, the search for missing flight 370 has taken a drastic
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turn. it appears for the last eight days crews searching the south china sea were simply in the wrong area. they are ending the search there and refocusing their attention to the west of the malaysian peninsula. now, everything just took a turn because of technology that both the ntsb and the faa happen to be using. it's technology that wasn'ten intended to be used for this particular purpose but it is giving them a whole lot of information on the missing plane's last position. now, based on this new satellite data, the plane was intact and in the air seven hours after people on the ground lost all communications with the plane. so now we have a brand new timeline for the path of the missing plane. we already knew that the plane stopped transmitting data about the health of the plane and the engines, about 25 minutes after takeoff. then 14 minutes later the transponder shuts off. the two systems went off
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separately. and malaysian authorities think there may be something to that. take a listen to this press conference just this morning. >> this movement consistent with deliberate action by someone on the plane. today, based on raw satellite data, which was obtained from the satellite data service provider, we can confirm that the aircraft shown in the primary radar data was flight ms-370. >> so he is saying that they can actually confirm that that was the plane. now, based on that new satellite data, the ntsb and the faa are
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looking at, it further supports that flight 370 did, indeed, head towards the west and they say that they detected it until about 8:11 a.m. that is so critical because with the amount of fuel we know that the plane had and it's detected to be in the air more than seven hours after takeoff, it was likely very close to running out of fuel. now, fred, one last point. they know the general area of the plane. but they're still unsure how much further it was able to fly after the satellite got that last ping. >> rene, if this satellite information could determine the plane was in the air or could have been flying about seven hours after losing contact, if it can determine possible trajectories, paths, can -- is there going to be satellite imagery that will actually be able to detect an exact path, be able to locate that aircraft where it may have gone down or even possibly landed,
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ultimately? >> well, so now based on that new satellite information, they have this large, very large general vicinity of where this plane could be. the problem is, it doesen tell them precisely where the plane is. so they will have to dispatch search crews in that area. the reason why they can't pinpoint it is because that original system that we said shut off at around 1:07 in the morning, shortly about 25 minutes after takeoff, as well as the transponder that also shut off 14 minutes later, that kind of equipment would give them more detail. this is malaysia flight 370. they would have that kind of solid information. because those systems were not working, they don't have that solid information. but they do know that the plane's system was in the vicinity. how do they know that? the best way for me to try to explain this is, take a look at this here. so this is your cellphone. you know when you have yourle cellphone, if you switch it into
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airplane mode, you know that your cellphone is still on but you're not getting data, you're not getting text message, you're not getting e-mails. so those towers as you're driving in your car with your cellphone possibly in airplane mode would still possibly be able to detect your phone but it just wouldn't be transmitting data. so that's kind of the situation that we have here with this plane and its system. but again, they still aren't able to pin point exactly where it is, fred. >> fascinating stuff. thank you so much. we will be checking back with you. of course, there's a whole lot of other information that's coming out of malaysia as well. our andrew stevens is live in kuala lumpur with more on that. we heard from the prime minister about this satellite tracking. what else are we learning from investigators there? >> well, what we're learning also from the prime minister when he spoke a couple hours ago is that there was going to be an intensive refocus on the manifest, both crew and passengers. and standing with the pilot and
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the co-pilot. and we have seen plain clothesed police, malaysian police leaving the home of the 27-year-old co-pilot carrying plastic bags. we have also been told that police have also been at the home of the pilot. we do know a little bit about the pilot at this stage, fred. 53-year-old. he's senior. he's experienced, 18,000 hours of flying. and talking to people who know him and people who live near him, he does sound like something of a pillar of the community. he is very focused on environmental issues. he helps underprivileged children. he has three children of his own. he's, in fact, a grandfather. he's also a bit of a geek, we're being told. that fits in with news that we have known for a while that he has his own flight simulator in his house. he also puts out youtube clips, self help youtube clips as well. obviously someone who enjoys what he does. we're told this. he has a passion for flying.
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and police have been there in the last several hours and have taken evidence away. at this stage, that's all we know. but there's nothing to suggest, at least at this stage, any links, any concerns that the police may have. obviously they're going to have to go through every personal manifest so much more closely now to see whether they can find any links to anybody who would -- >> all right. sorry about that. we lost our transmission there with andrew stevens. when we get that back up we'll resume that conversation, him coming from kuala lumpur. coming up, what we can learn from the past that will help potentially solve this mystery of flight 370. and next, what the clues are telling us in the plane's disappearance. if this was deliberate, how does that change the search? so i get invited to quite a few family gatherings. heck, i saved judith here a fortune with discounts like safe driver, multi-car, paperless. you make a mighty fine missus, m'lady.
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welcome back. another new twist in the hunt for missing flight 370. the search area has now changed. in fact, it's expanded exponentially. satellite information shows the plane may have flown another seven hours after losing contact with ground control. investigators think it was traveling along two possible corridors, as you see there. at that point one extending as far north as kazakhstan. the other as far south as southern indian ocean. chinese officials are demanding that malaysia give more specific information about the new search area. china's foreign minister says the country is sending its own technical experts to assist in the investigation. so with this search area now widened, what clues have become more crucial in discovering the fate of flight 370? i'm joined now by tom, former t ntsb investigators and cnn's safety analyst, david.
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this plane has been missing now more than a week. and now the focus has shifted to this disappearance being a deliberate act, as we heard from the malaysian prime minister. tom, you first. without a plane in your view, and all the tools that are available that are being used to figure out where it is and what happened, are you satisfied with how the investigation so far is pinpointing these two possible corridors? >> well, this is just a huge area. it's going to be very difficult to search all of it, obviously. what's going to be needed now is a major international effort to gather all the information from all the countries in this corridor area, all the data that's out there, civilian, military, everything, to look for it. this is going to be a massive effort. >> and so, david, you know, we're not talking about information, satellite information that is better pinpointing. instead, we're talking about an area that is much greater than what had been the focal point.
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how in the world will investigators try to zero in? i mean, the north corridor versus the south corridor. you're talking about potential land over seas. what kind of assets are going to be necessary in order to kind of pinpoint the potential whereabouts of this plane? >> as tom said, trying to get all the information in one place is absolutely critical. the one piece of information i think that they're going to be focusing on right now is trying to gain altitude information as to what at tultitude the aircra was flying at. i don't think we have reliable on that. >> why would that matter? we did at here hear there was a fluctuation of altitude. at 30,000, may have been coasting, suddenly it may have gone to 45,000 and then back down. what do those things tell you? >> there are very important clues in the altitude information and where to search. that is that if it's a low altitude the fuel efficiency of the aircraft goes to such a low range that that would really limit the search.
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so if it has been flying at a low altitude the reserves on the aircraft has been drastically dimini diminished. >> when you hear that it may have been flying for seven hours after the point of loss of contact, does that sound reasonable for that size plane, that type of altitude? >> it does if it's flying at its designed cruise altitude. now, again, if it's not at the designed cruise altitude, that could be significantly reduced if it's been trying to avoid radar, if it's been flying at low altitudes like we originally suspected. >> tom, let's talk about these two potential routes. if we're talking about going further north over land, kazakhstan, and what we saw on that map. and we talk about this potential altitude between 30 and 45,000 feet. we're talking about mountainous terrain in that region. what potentially is possible in this seven-hour flight in that region at that kind of altitude?
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>> well, if we're working with seven hours a lot of things are possible. now we're into a scenario and over enough landing areas that is it possible the airplane is on the ground. we don't know. seven hours is a long period of time. i don't know where they're getting all of this information. i wish i did. >> yeah. >> but this opens up so many different aspects of this that now their over significant land mass, there are places to land aircraft at this size over this route that i see. it's not just open ocean. so the whole thing becomes much more complex. >> you're in agreement with that, that there are potential landing spaces and that very mountainous region that we're pointing out in that northern kind of path in your view as well? >> i'm sorry. was that me? >> yes. >> yeah. well, i'm not familiar with that area as far as landing goes, but the thing that's changed in my mind is that prove usely when we didn't think there was that much range that aircraft would have had to land at night.
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at night you would have to have a developed airport to land that aircraft. now we're talking about daylight hours, so that does change the scope of where it may have landed. >> okay. all right, david, tom, i want to ask you to hold on a moment. we're going to take a short break. and we're also watching another major development in the situation with crimea and the u.n. security council right now. you're looking at live pictures. they are voting on a u.s. draft resolution that really would declare sunday's planned referendum, a vote that just simply wouldn't count. if you have moderate to severe rheumatoid arthritis, like me, and you're talking to your rheumatologist about a biologic... this is humira. this is humira helping to relieve my pain. this is humira helping me lay the groundwork. this is humira helping to protect my joints from further damage. doctors have been prescribing humira for ten years. humira works by targeting and helping to block
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we'll get back to the mystery of the malaysian flight 370 in a moment, but right now the u.n. security council just voted on a resolution to declare a critical vote in crimea invalid. richard roth is live for us now at the united nations. richard, what happened? >> russia just veto'd a security council resolution that would have declared the the crimea referendum on sunday illegitimate, invalid. there was just a very fierce war of words which is going on right now. it's almost like 1961. u.s. ambassador samantha power given russian ambassador a history lesson in the way washington sees things after ambassador churken of russia,
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after his veto, he spoke before the veto, laid out a case why crimea used to be a part of russia and should legally be a part of russia and not ukraine. this resolution is now dead. this is a seventh meeting of the security council since this crisis started. a very large number of sessions as much of the world here tries to highlight how russia is isolated. china which usually votes with moscow abstained. on the syria crisis china has veto'd several resolutions along with russia. this time it abstain. the key frais phrase about the u.n. and charter and territorial integrity must be respected. china is always concerned about that phrasing. so it went along by not joining in the veto. all it takes is one veto and russia killed this resolution. fredericka? >> richard roth, thank you so much. wait a minute, bifr let you go. will there be another attempt at this? >> one ambassador this week says we don't intend to do multiple meetings and multiple vemltiple
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>> thank you so much. so again, planned referendum still on schedule for tomorrow in crimea parliament. already voted to join with russia. more on that later. thank you so much, richard. all right. meantime, let's talk more about this mysterious disappearance of malaysian flight 370, where is it? the malaysian prime minister had released details within the last 24 hours that it appears as though that plane may have continued to fly for seven hours and it appears may have taken a left turn and gone either north toward kazakhstan or perhaps south in the southern indian ocean. let's talk more now with tom heauter and david. gentlemen, let's resume that conversation. it's very telling and very
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mysterious information coming from the prime minister, that there are satellite imagery that they are leaning on that tells them about this potential path. at least taking a left, not long after takeoff there as we look at the map there in that illustration. and then possibly flying for some seven hours more either going north toward afghanistan, kazakhst kazakhstan, or possibly south over the indian ocean. if it were to go over land, david, i believe both of you actually were in concert that there were potential landing points over land even though we're talking about a very mountainous region. we're talking about this 777. it needs, what, up to 7,000 feet in which to land? where are those potential landing locations over land, there david? >> you know, again, i'm not familiar with the terrain specifically. and again, we don't know which way it went. so speculating on where, the potential to land because it's
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daylight, i think that's important to point out. if it was still night, if it was still dark and talking about a dark area, i find it nearly impossible to think that that aircraft could have landed in an undeveloped area at night. during the daytime, the chances are there, the possibility of that dramatically increased. >> tom, in your view, is this hopeful information or does this only make it more confusing because we are talking about a vast area. this has now widened the search area as opposed to pinpointing it. >> i think that it does make it more confusing because you've added several more hours to the flight time which makes the area much bigger. i lean against it being on land because, one, it's kind of hard to hide a 777 somewhere in the world with all the other equipment on board. if it had crashed on land, the elt would have deployed. but we don't have a lot of data here unfortunately. so we really don't know. >> okay. and that is the quandary. we're approaching day nine now on the disappearance of this
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flight. very huge plane, 250 people on board. and really the world is fascinated with how in the world something so huge can just simply vanish, just disappear. as we talk about the investigation and either the cooperation or perhaps lack of cooperation between malaysian authorities, now china authorities say they have another means in which to add assets to this and u.s. as well. whether the u.s. or chinese are involved here, they, too, are going to have a difficult time, tom, trying to figure out, do we focus on north, do we focus on south? how do you suppose they come up with a plan? what are they looking at? what are the elements to try to discern where to focus on first here? with this new information. >> well, the problem is, i don't think you can focus on north and south. you have to go after everything. the only thing to do is to once they get in, get with all the entities involved here. all the different country, get all the data together and start sorting through it.
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that's not going to be easy, quite frankly. having various military information and everything else is going to take a lot of work and a lot of cooperation. what we need here is data. and it's going to take a lot of very dedicated effort to do that. >> and, david, it would seem, without a plane it's difficult to collect this data. but if there is at least satellite imagery that shows or at least malaysian authorities are showing it shows at least this plane may have been in the air for seven hours, it may have gone either north or south, is there not satellite imagery that would be able to detail even more about this flight? while re nrk e mrene marsh was comparisons with a cellphone, you may be able to track eights whereabouts but not retrieve data or information. can't the same be applied to an airplane, that perhaps it can be located even if there isn't
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information, detailed information, being disseminated from it? >> not much but the aircraft communication and reporting system is designed to provide that information. what we're relying on now as i understand it is the satcom, the communication part, the antenna. it's talking but it doesn't have any information going because the acar is not sharing that information. it's not designed to give a lot of information just from a satellite look. so now if we had acars data, we don't know if we have or not, hopefully they do have some, if that transmission is coming across and giving them information. what what we've heard in the past the acars system is not on and they're not receiving any more information than just the fact that i'm here and i'm trying to communicate with you. >> david, tom, thank you so much, gentlemen. appreciate it. we'll be talking with you again throughout the day. appreciate your expertise. all right. this is one of the biggest mysteries, aviation history. what happened to malaysian
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what appears to be two police vans were also seen leaving the co-pilot's home. the investigation is zeroing in on the crew and passengers after malaysian authorities said the jet appears to have been deliberately diverted. but they stopped short of calling it a hijacking. another new development. the search how has now expanded as far knot as kazakhstan and as far south as southern indian ocean. this comes as satellite information shows the plane may have flown another seven hours after the last contact with the pilots. malaysia airlines calls this an unprecedented situation and in a statement saying this, the airline said it is quit xhied to being transparent and share information with family members and the public. u.s. sources tell cnn that malaysian officials are limiting the amount of information, however, that they give out due to national security concerns. u.s. official said those limits, quote, are understandable and we aren't pushing for more, end
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quote. i want to get reaction now to that from cnn law enforcement analyst tom fuentes in washington. aviation attorney in washington. tom, your first. does this suggest that malaysian authorities are being as forth right as possible and, because of national security reasons, they can only provide so much information and the u.s. understands that? am i interpret that correctly? >> yes, i would say so, fredericka. the other countries have different systems and different rules governing the amount of information they can put out publicly during an investigation. and, you know, they have different privacy rights and thresholds of probable cause and, you know, technical legal limits as to what they can do and when they can do it. so i think in this case, in terms of searching the pilots' homes, you know, the authorities have finally reached a point where, given the latest information, that human hands flew that aircraft, first, in an
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erratic manner but then in a long distance, that it was time to take yet another or additional step towards looking at the pilot pilots' homes. they could have already without our knowing been searching their bank account, phone records, internet accounts, e-mail records. you know, even without that. but you know, they may have wanted to look at their personal computers within the house or see if there's any other, you you know, information that might lead to them to believe they were going to fly that aircraft to some particular location that's not normal for malaysian air to fly. >> and so, mark, this is -- even though malaysian authorities are saying they believe that this was a deliberate act, no one is really pinpointing motivation yet but very similar to a crime scene that most people are familiar with, it appears as though investigators are looking at those closest to the plane, the crew, passengers, just as you would if a crime took place at someone's home you would be looking at re-evaluating all the
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residents of the home. so what in particular, mark, in your view, will they be looking for or have they been looking for as they go to the homes of the crew members? what sort of things would be sending off red flags? because we understand from a lot of pilots it's not so unusual to have flight simulator in the home but there might be other things that would seem suspicious to authorities? like what? >> i think actually they're looking at the things that anybody would look at in the context of criminal investigation. it's very similar to any investigation that would take place in this country. the first thing that is looked at, is there a criminal act involved? once the criminal act issue is resolved, the fbi steps aside and the ntsb in the context of u.s. accident, will in fact push through the investigation, drawing upon the fbi if they need their assistance technically or scientifically. so i would certainly expect that they would be looking at things like e-mails or notes or any
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computering or any type of documentation found in the home because you still have two investigations going on here. you have the accident investigation, and right now we're obviously in the search mode, and you also obviously have the criminal investigation on a parallel basis going forward, which one of these investigations may ultimately take precedence really remains to be seen at t this time. although certainly the information we're getting from the malaysian government would suggest that it's first and foremost right now a criminal investigation, but that does t not address all of the issues in terms of what happened, how did the airplane get to where it was, nor does it address all the questions that obviously the family members have. >> mark, real quick, do you have a gut feeling on this based on the information that we've received in the last few hours? >> it's probably no better than anybody else's gut feeling. the broad indicators would suggest that there's something
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involving deliberateness or intention here. but in terms of speculating why it happened, where it happened, where the aircraft flew, it's very difficult to talk about straight lines as many people have been suggesting. i think what we're really talking about is a large circle of possibility here. and it will present itself and it will get figured out. and i know it's frustrating that we don't know where the airplane is, but it will be located. >> tom, do you have a gut on this? i mean, if this plane was commandeered the way authorities said, deliberate intent, it was able to make that left turn, possibly go right and not left, clearly they had, you know, some real expertise in being able to manage this plane, wouldn't your gut say they would go toward land and try and already have a plan mapped out, if this was, you know, part of some master plan, that there would be some kind of plan to pinpoint an appropriate place to planned if they were in the air for several hours and possibly over land up
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to kazakhstan? >> okay. i would start my answer the same way you started the question. if, if this, if that, if the next thing, and there are so many ifs still that we don't know positively. even now, knowing that if, again, if it's true that human hands caused that plane to go up and down and other directions and human hands controlled that aircraft for an additional six or seven hours of flight, then that tells you that iteither th two pilots or someone else got into that cockpit and took over the aircraft and made this happen. so, you know, that could be, again, back to the beginning, if all of that is true, it could be a hijacking, it could be pilot suicide, it could be any of that. you know, we just don't know. we don't have enough accurate facts. one thing i would like more accurate facts of is the flight
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track that takes that everywhere from the antarctic area to the indian ocean to the top of the himalayas. that plane could have crashed into mt. everest if you look at that flight path on the map. that entire white area in the upper part of that colored map is the himalaya mountains. >> right. >> so it's either 15,000 feet at the bottom of the indian ocean, could have crashed into a jungle or it could be sitting in the himalayas somewhere 25,000 feet elevati elevation. >> very treacherous area. lots of question marks. thank you so much, mark, tom, appreciate your insight. the referendum on crimea, on the crimean independence. will it turn up the pressure on the west with imposed sanctions? if you have moderate to severe rheumatoid arthritis, like me,
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it seems no matter what the international community wants, the russian backed referendum for crimean independence will go as planned. the united nations resolution declared invalid failed in a security council vote and the government in kiev is now taking away the authority of crimea's regional parliament. russian president vladimir putin says he won't make any further decisions on crimea until after tomorrow's vote. western countries are still threatening heavy sanctions against russia over a vote they say is not legitimate. joining me now is ian bremer, runs the group, they consult with governments and companies with advice on political developments. good to see you. >> hi. >> the u.n. was able to pass this resolution that would declare tomorrow's vote illegal, would it have mattered one way or the other in you view? >> well, the russians get a
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veto, so i don't think that surprises us. the only thing that was interesting is that the chinese chose to abstain. otherwise it was everyone with the united states on this. the chinese vote is important in the sense that the russians have been saying publicly that the chinese are with the russians in recognizing their interest in ukraine. clearly the chinese want absolutely no part of this conflict. but the key issue is that the russians are going ahead with the referendum. the americans -- the threats of punishment coming from the u.s. and to a lesser degree from the europeans are not in any way standing them down. and in addition to lots of military exercises on the border, we've seen considerable statements escalating from the russian foreign ministry talking about treatment, mistreatment of ethnic russians in eastern ukraine. and the fact that they would consider requests to intervene on their behalf. so all arrows right now are pointing towards very serious escalation of this crisis. >> how do you interpret this
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referendum tomorrow? we understand the ballot is worded in a rather peculiar way saying that creamia has a choice between independence or joining russia. sort of a loaded question? do people feel they're very compelled to go ahead and say we want to join russirussia? >> i think it's clear. you've got all of these russians and, slash, nonrussian troops on the ground of the crimea. they just dissolved. both sides are escalating here. and clearly there's going to be -- i would be stunned if you don't get 80% in favor of joining russia here. and the russian government will then surely recognize that outcome which will not be recognized by the united states or the europeans. and this seriously undermines the territorial integrity of the ukrainian government. from the russian perspective, the ukrainian government is not legitimate. remember, there had been a deal
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signed by european foreign ministers with the old ukrainian president yanukovich and the opposition, that deal was aggregated. the russian perspective is that was a coup and yanukovich is still president. so if you really want to take a legal perspective here we are completely at an impasse between the two sides. >> fascinating stuff. ian bremer, thanks so much. appreciate it. >> sure. coming up, new information that is helping potentially either narrow or widen, depends on your point of view in the search of this flight 370. chad myers maps it all out next. anything we purchase for the paper cottage goes on our ink card. so you can manage your business expenses and access them online instantly with the game changing app from ink. we didn't get into business to spend time managing receipts, that's why we have ink. we like being in business because we like being creative, we like interacting with people. so you have time to focus on the things you love. ink from chase. so you can.
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>> we have learned there is a new search area that is the focus of crew members looking for malaysia flight 370. this is not here, but we are looking at how it applies to where this plane could have potentially gone. >> you have a gps in your car. it knows how high i am and how fast i'm going because it has more than one satellite pinging it. there is a car and the satellite pings it here and here and here and we know the middle where all three cross, the car has to be right there. if we only had one satellite, we wouldn't know there is one or two. we would know it would be along this line. here's what we have and where
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the new ark came from. we woke up and said we have a new ark. the red line is a ping from a satellite that was right there. i don't know where along this red line it is. we only have one ping, but we know the distance. it's somewhere along here. that's where the big ark is coming from. think about this red line. that's how much fuel the plane had. it couldn't go further than that. that's why the ark doesn't go to africa. there wasn't enough gas in the tank. unless something happened where they filled it up more than they were going to because they were going to beijing. >> that would have been a four to five hour flight. they are saying it could have been in the air seven hours. that's a lot more fuel and something mysterious and fascinating iing iing is happen. >> somewhere along this red line
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there was a ping. we don't know if it was flying that way or that way, but it pings there, there, or there and all the way up and down. this is mountainous terrain. >> that's the northern route. we know south, incredible depths. you see floating debris. >> do you really think they took this plane and flew it for seven hours to crash it? if they were going to crash it, they would have crashed it in ten minutes. it doesn't seem the likely scenario. there islands, but not many places to put it. >> let's talk about the northern area. if it was your intent to take the plane and commend ear it and land it, if this is the area, kazakhstan and afghanistan, this is very mountainous. unbelievable to land a 777.
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>> and well protected without military installations. all of this area in here is not so rough. we are talking about the tibetan plateau. you are not going to put it on mount everest, but there could be places up north. >> you snead something between 4,000 and 7,000 feet. i understand. >> and an 80-mile chad meyers questions about the new coverage of the fate of flight 370. after this. iti thankyou card to get two times the points at the coffee shop. which will help me get to miami...and they'll be stuck at the cube farm. the citi thankyou preferred card. now earn two times the points on dining out with no annual fee. go to citi.com/thankyoucards. so our business can be on at&t's network for $175 a month? yup. all 5 of you for $175. our clients need a lot of attention. there's unlimited talk and text.
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today malaysian police searched the homes of the pilot and copilot in kuala lumpur. they review the backgrounds of crew and passengers and found no links to terrorism. satellite signals now indicate the plane may have been airborne for seven hours after it lot of contact with ground control and the radar shows changes in altitude during that time. officials concluded the plane likely flew along that path. north all the way up to the border of kazakhstan. renee is following that for us in washington. renee, where do things stand and to what degree are u.s. officials involved now?
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>> so they are very involved especially in analyzing the data they have. that data is so critical because the bottom line is they need to find this plane. new this morning, we learned that malaysian authorities believe for the last eight days, crews searching the south china sea were in the wrong area. the search there has been called off and they are refocusing attention to the west of malaysian peninsula. the search took a major turn because of technology that both the ntsb and faa are making use of. it's technology that is not intended to be used to find a missing plane like this case here. they are getting very creative because they can't find the plane and the space satellite is providing good information on the plane's last position. based on this new satellite data, the plane was intact and in the air for about seven hours
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after people lost all communication with it. we have a new timeline for the path of this missing plane. here is the new nugget to the timeline that was talked about earlier this morning. take a listen. >> according to the new data, the last confirmed communication between the plane and the satellite was at 8:11 a.m. on saturday, the investigation team is making further calculations. that will indicate how far the aircraft may have flown after the last point of contact. >> according to that satellite data, the plane was detected in the air and in fact more than seven hours after take off. the satellite can only give them
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a general idea of where the plane is. it cannot give a location and as we were talking about earlier, the best way to describe how this all worked, if you have your phone on airplane mode, you are not getting data and you are not getting e-mails and text messages. think of this cell phone as maybe the systems in the plane. it was not transmitting hard data about the plane. those towers that you may be passing may be able to detect your phone. know that it is in the general area. that's pretty much how this is working as far as that satellite data goes. fred, they have a lot of work on their hands and still a broad area they need to search. >> broad indeed. it seems like it multiplied by many thousands. thank you. let's bring in analyst tom fuentes in washington.
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in light of this new information, the plane may have been diverted. what does this tell you? malaysian authorities said while they looked into the back ground of the crew, they see no link to terrorism. what are the questions that they are asking now as it relates to the mysteries of the crew and whether the crew deliberately was part of this deliberate diversion or whether they were roped into it. >> what we are saying is you have them publicly stating and carrying out searches as the captain and copilot's homes last night. that doesn't mean this hasn't been an ongoing parallel investigation by the police and by other law enforcement agencies from the very beginning. the fbi was invited into the command post they established the 50 night this plane went missing. those inquiries and data checks on passengers and cargo began immediately. they waited until now to have
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enough in the legal system's justification to conduct the searches, but that doesn't mean they were not already looking at bank accounts and internet files and e-mails, cell phone records and introduce with other people that knew the captain and crew. you are talking about they have to investigate the 239 people that were on board and there is a couple hundred other people that may have access to that airplane. the people that bring in the food and clean the airplane and do the mechanical work. they have the hand that affects the flight. they have to be looked at as well. that part of the investigation began the first night it went missing. as i said, you report your child missing to the police or the fbi, they don't tell you when we find the body, we will start the investigation. it begins immediately. >> good talking with you. thanks for now.
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start building your confident retirement today. . authorities in malaysia say part of the investigation into the disappearance of flight 370 is focusing on the crew and passengers. malaysian police searched the homes of the pilot and copilot in kuala lumpur. they continue to review the backgrounds of the crew and performs and so far no one is saying anything about a link to terrorism. gary tuckman has a closer look at the men who flew flight 370. >> these are the men who were in charge of malaysia airlines
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flight 370. the captain was 53 years old and his first officer was 27. captain shaw is a very experienced pilot with 33 years under his belt at the airline. a source said police have been outside his home and have yet to enter the house. he liked his job so much, he made his own flight simulator in his home. you can see it behind you this this video. >> hi, everyone. this is the you tube video i made as a community service. >> it has nothing to do with aviation. he was talking about household air conditioning. >> this is to be used to optimize your compressor in order to reduce your electric bill. >> first officer hamid is a much less experienced pilot. he has flown for just over six years, but is relatively new on
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the 777. you can see him here on the white copilot's seat. cnn recently shot a story aboard the plane he was flying. the visit was authorized, but a south african passenger had a much different visit. he said in 2011, the copilot and another pilot invited them to sit in the caulk pit for the entire flight from thailand to malaysia. >> malaysia airlines said they are shocked by the allegations, but has more urgent priorities now which will undoubtedly check into the background of this captain. >> if this system is suffering from something.
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a lot of territory to cover. a retired northwest airlines pilot in des moines, iowa. also with us is a former inspector general at the department of transportation. good to see you as well. so dave, you first. based on the information we received in the last few years the plane may have flown an additional seven hours after going off radar. the altitude fluctuateed from 30,000 to 45,000 and then dipping again. is any of this information encouraging to you or discouraging? >> it's neither. similar to the crash years ago. the aircraft isolated or
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osilated an attitude because that's what stable airplanes do. having seen these kinds of things, it basically told me the auto pilot was probably not functioning. a lot of us believed the auto pilot was functioning based on the information that came out. it being looks like it was not. that would to me be indicative of what i thought they had an insipient or slow developing problem, perhaps an electrical fire disabled the pilots and knocked out systems not having them all drop off line instantly. >> you are talking about a plane malfunction as opposed to a deliberate act of shutting things down and being able to disengage to auto pilot and take it where they wanted to go. >> exactly. if you lose multiple systems, one of the less important things is the auto flight system. it's not going to be on the emergency or the primary buses that power the captains and the first officers's of a yonnics.
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it will drop off line. if we had a minor fire and the compartment and the electrical compartment, if there was a massive fire down there, these are the things and the systems you would lose. that airplane could fly along for a long time with just the engines running based on the fact that it's an airplane and it's stable. it's going to go up and down and seek an air speed when this event occurred. i'm not there yet on the idea that is primarily or most likely a terrorist event. the longer it goes, the less likely to me from the supported investigations and as a security guy who deals with the issues regularly. i don't see it. >> lots of theories on the table since we don't really have any hard fast evidence to go in any one direction. let's put all of them out there. if the authorities were saying they believe this is a deliberate act, a deliberate
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action here and say the pilot or someone was able to commend ear the plane and take it off auto pilot and radar and travel, we are talking about a flight that was destined for beijing and to five-hour flight from kuala lumpur, will there be enough fuel to divert and stay in the air for seven hours without any kind of problems and have a little extra fuel to land if potentially that was the plan? >> no, the range of the 777 is 7,200 miles. the 7 evan 7 needs 40,000 u.s. gallons of jet fuel. at seven hours, it's done for. the malaysian authorities are making no sense at this point. i question whether they believe their theories, i think they are grabbing at straws. there is so much dirt in the data, the data degradation, it contra addicts itself.
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on monday by then they will have better data. this is not reliable as well. if they believe it, it's a large hijack on a malaysian carrier, why have they not shut down malaysian air. there would have to be or six hijackers on board. they would have had to secure the performs and they would need weapons and tools. this is a huge hijack plane. if they believe it, malaysia air should be shut down immediately. >> of the two routes given if it went north to kazakhstan and afghanistan where it's mountainous and treacherous, you don't think it would be reasonable at all that someone would commend ear the plane and be able to know the region and say i can find 7,000 feet to land this plane? >> no and especially since probably the pilot with 18,000 hour, an amazing number of hours, more than u.s. major
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airline captains have. he was not someone with 18,000 hours if the data was right. it would take someone greatly experienced to land someplace like that and it wouldn't be by this pilot. somebody flying that poorly couldn't have taken it where they say it might have gone. i don't believe it. >> miry schiavo, not done with you yet. we will take a short break and continue the investigation. the various theories whether it's sinister or intentional or mechanical failure and a terrible accident and it's taking a long time to get to the bottom of it. much more as we look into the investigation. hundreds of family members and people around the world meantime are fascinated and heartbroken because there so many passengers on board. they too want answers. right after this. as a business owner, i'm constantly putting out fires. so i deserve a small business credit card
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department of transportation, herself a pilot. malaysian officials have been criticized for how they handled this investigation and how they have been unwilling at first to share a lot of information with other countries and investigators. mary, is this unusual or is this to be expected? is it to be expected that malaysian authorities want to take control of the investigation and not share as much? >> sorry about that. we lot of mary's signal. in your view, is it unusual for malaysian authorities to be not want to share information? >> it's a cultural divide. i have been in that part of the world and what are norms and expected in the united states or europe or australia or israel is not necessarily the case down in malaysia. i don't really fault them in that regard. it will take a while to sort out. until we have the airplane located, a lot of everything we
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are talking about are theories and i think it's early to claim it's one thing or another. i personally look at it and just the facts as they add up, what we are hearing and there may be more, it keeps pointing to a slow developing problem with the airplane. >> let's talk about some of those things. before the breaking new malaysian authorities talking about they may have been in the air after losing contact and may have gone right or left. it could have landed if it had gone north. that was the speculation that many are entertaining. you say most likely there could have been an engine or me cal can failure. if that plane were to have gone in the southern route that has been thrown out there by malaysian authorities, in your view, would experienced pilots
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such as what you had on this flight be able to manage this plane over the indian ocean and over any body of water if there were mechanical problems for it to be in the air for seven hours. >> if they were in the air for seven hours and ought over the ocean it's because they were no longer in the control of the aircraft. my guess is most likely crew inkpastation. if there were hijackers on the airplane, it will take several people to do this. they either had to be stow aways which is unlikely. there was no space they could hide and not be noticed. the logistics of planning are much more difficult than would appear in a movie. that being the case, it keeps pointing back to mechanical and the crew could have been incapacitated. it will fly fine without auto
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pilot on and turned towards it with positive demand and stability. this could go on for hours slowly rising and descending. it could be anywhere. they can take an untrained terrorist or minerally trained hijacker and have them fly the airplane and it's a pretty low level of probability. they are out over the water and they are in the water. >> just to help refresh them as they continue up in elevation. ultimately everyone on board had been passed out. they all died as a result of that fluctuation. thank you so much. appreciate it. captain, thank you so much. >> that's okay. >> a shift in the investigation after evidence indicates flight 370 appears to have been diverted on purpose. we will tell you what police are
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liberty mutual insurance. responsibility. what's your policy? we know from satellite information that the plane may have flown for another seven hours after the last contact with the pilot. at that point the plane was in one of two possible corridors. one stretching as far north as kazakhstan and another as far south as the indian ocean. investigators are using a approach to analyze satellite data and try to figure out the most likely location now. andrew stevens joins us now from kuala lumpur. they have searches in the pilot's home.
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what have we learned? >> the investigation on land is wrapping up as well. raiding the pilot's and copilot's home. they took away several bags of evidence as they did as well. a bit of background. the chief pilots and the 53-year-old community-minded man, he had a flight simulator in his home. that would be of particular interest obviously at this stage of the inquiry. questions are being raised, why is it taking eight days to get into the home of the captain and the copilot, but that has been carried out. investigations into the other 237 people who were on board that plane. the prime minister said in the press conference today that all
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evidence points to the plane being deliberately flown and either going left or right. at the high tech theory, it is quiet at the moment. all the performs are being looked at. we don't know the extent of the investigation. it will be ramping up now with the new information confirmed. >> and also while the crew are being investigated, so are all of the passengers. investigators are looking into the backgrounds of the passengers and all the names. apparently one passenger belongs to an ethneek group called the ouigers. why is that significant? >> this is a 35-year-old chinese man. the eagers are an ethnic minority and muslim and hailed from the far northwest country. that actually came into china's control. when the communists took over in
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1949, there has been an independence movement since 1949. the separatist movement planned responsibility and are being blamed for several attacks on the chinese police most recently blaming them for a horrific attack where some 30 people were stabbed to death. there is a history of the separatist movement that carried violent attacks on the mainland. there was a ouiger on the plane. what we know about that man is that he is a university professor. he has a ph.d. from a university in britain. he is currently a professor in turkey. we don't know why he was going home. he has been in the past few days a claim of responsibility by a ouiger group. apparently. i say apparently that that was pretty much dismissed straight away and the claim came through. in the light of the fact that
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there has been deliberate actions taken in the cockpit in the light of what we now know and everybody is being reinvestigated including this gentlemen. we don't know more from that. >> i'm going to bring in nick robertson into the equation. i do want to follow-up with you. in what way was this claim of responsibility conveyed before it was knocked down by the ouigers? >> i can't tell you that. all i know is the authorities were made aware of it and it did come out. as i said, it was pretty quickly dismissed. >> okay. so nick, there a lot of theories and everything is being thrown out there. some of the information coming from officials in malaysia. other authorities from other countries involved in the investigation have also thrown out a bit of information. this latest information coming from authorities that are
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showing two different routes that potentially this plane may have taken. it may have gone north or may have gone south into the southern portion of the indian ocean. let's talk about kazakhstan. you are familiar with that region and how mountainous it is. if that plane were to have enough fuel to get there intentionally, if it were able to land in the general region, what would this mean based on some of the sources you have and people you talked to? what would this potentially mean that this plane would have intention possibly to go to the region? >> yeah, it's really -- i have to say a lot of speculation at the moment. if they had taken a plane lot of people hostage, there would be demands for the release of these people. would it be a group and there is
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no basis for us to be at the support. would they be trying to extort something? what we know about the track or at least the best estimate that they would have gone from northern thailand and miramar and across the west of china to the plateau across the desert through the airspace and on to kazakhstan's airspace. where it is on the track is kind of what's interesting. >> they thought it may have flown across western chine. china, one would expect them through the radar system to be able to pick up unidentified aircraft and respond to it. it would have intersected with
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what was a hijacking a year and a half ago in december of 2012. it was blamed on ouigers on a flight flying across that western bit of china. again, it's hard to get substantial details. there is a ouiger community and tensions between the north and the south between the ethnic groups. a very mountainous country for sure. the places to land the plane may be easier to land an aircraft there, but again a government that substantially had resources and you expect them to have a long-term of radar. >> thank you, gentlemen. appreciate it. so many different theorys and so many possibilities. so little information coming out and trickling in on day eight of
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. >> more than 300 people have died because of a defect in gm cars that are part of a recall. gm said the company is aware of only 12 deaths with a faulty ignition switch that causes cars to shut off and disable air bags. we have the latest. >> gm is under the microscope after recalling more than 1.6 million vehicles in north america. both the house and senate are calling for congressional hearings. a u.s. attorney is reviewing the case for possible criminal conduct. wane-year-old brooke was driving down the highway. without warning her 2005 chevrolet cobalt shut down and crashed into on coming traffic. she died of her injuries. >> i knew in my gut there was something mechanically wrong rather than a mistake on her part. >> her father was right.
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the ignition had essentially slipped into accessory mode, cutting almost all power to the car. if gm knew had t had a problem, how soon should it have warned drivers, the consumers? >> as soon as they knew. immediately. >> records suggest gm knew for more than a decade. a service bulletin was issued in 2006. only last month did gm recall more than 1.62 million vehicles to correct the problem. when the engine shuts down, air bags fail to deploy. the car is difficult to control. >> right now the car is running and i have the power assist and as you can see it's quite easy to turn the wheel. now that the car is off, i don't have power assist. and now it's very difficult to turn the wheel. >> in a letter to employees, the new ceo recently said they acted
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without hesitation. it appear that is not only did gm know, so too did federal regulators. >> they knew there were deaths by 2007 and injuries. >> joan once admitted that the federal agency was responsible for highway safety. gm and transportation officials discussed the problem seven years ago. >> a special investigation team went to investigate a crash in wisconsin. in the course of doing that, they discovered that the ignition switch was in the accessory position. you can run the radio, but not the car. they met with general motors in march of 2007 and talked about it. >> in a statement to cnn, they said no investigation was initiated because "the data available at the time did not contain sufficient evidence of a possible safety defect trend." they don't buy it. brooke had taken her cobalt to a
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dealer to fix the ignition days before she died in 2010. >> i'm bubbling over. i am overwhelmed by anger. if we had just known this information, my daughter would still be here today. you can just imagine how that makes me feel. >> under the terms of the bankruptcy and government bailout, gm may not be legally liable for any injuries or deaths prior to 2009 because the old gm no longer exists. consumer groups are fighting to make sure gm does the right thing to compensate those affected by the ignition defect. >> let's bring in our legal guide to talk more about the case. richard herman in new york, criminal defense attorney joining us from orlando.
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you first. how will federal prosecutors move forward with this case if we are talking about gm knowing about this ignition problem seven years ago? will prosecutors be zeroing in on the lapse of time between knowing about it and the first death or the first set of deaths took place? >> even before that. the question everyone is asking, the riveting legal issue here is because there is an engineer report back in 2001, gm reported in 2004. that report suggests and that's why the u.s. attorney's office is looking into it. not on a civil matter, but on a criminal matter. most of the stuff surfaced from product liability. this came out and the u.s. attorney has it. the question will be whether or not executives and engineers and managers, will they be criminally responsible for this
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for something that would have only cost $2 to $5 to fix and taking care of it 15 minutes and it was never done. >> richard, gm calls this new report linking it to 300 plus deaths pure speculation and does this information increase pressure on the auto maker? >> it does. the investigation by the department of justice in new york as well is both criminal and civil. they are looking into what gm knew and whether or not they covered this up. they attempted to mislead the investigators about this. it they find gm tried to cover it up or mislead it, you will see criminal charges. during the 10-year span, gm got about 260 complaints, about 13 deaths are attributed to the faulty ignition. you are driving down the road and all of a sudden the ignition shuts off. attribute it to six mottles of
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gm and what did they do about it? it's a gut wrenching story you toward them talk about. it's devastating and looks like gm should have done a lot more. >> both the house and senate plan to hold hearings on the timeliness. what can they expect? how might it impact the criminal and civil case that for sure was leading to that. >> that's very interesting. the u.s. attorney's office looking into it for criminal charges. gm officials will be called before the house and senate subcommittees. what are they going to do? if they respond, there may be criminal implications. they will take the fifth amendment or what are they going to do? they are smashing into each other in a riveting question. what are the officials going to
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. the focus for the search for the missing malaysia airlines plane. police searched the pilot's home on saturday and this is video of police leaving the copilot's home right there. the investigation is zeroing in as the jet appears to have been deliberately diverted. they stopped short of calling it
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a hijacking. another new development, the search area is expanded as far north as kazakhstan and south as the indian ocean. this comes as satellite information shows the plane may have flown another seven hours after the last contact with the pilots. in china, the state news agency said two chinese war ships with under water robots are now headed to the strait of malaca to search for the plane. they are expected to arrive later today. two war ships are expanding south to the gulf of thailand. what is the likelihood the plane went down on land and what are the most reasonable scenarios about what actually happened? ahead in the next hour, i will ask two aviation attorneys. >> that would have been a high
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. >> hello again. we are tracking all the latest developments in the search for the malaysia airlines flight 370. let's get straight to it. here's what we know. the prime minister said the evidence points to the likelihood that someone in the plane deliberately took the plane off course and the investigation will focus on the crew and passengers. this is video of police leaving the home of the plane's copilot. the pilot's home was also searched. authorities say they continue to review the backgrounds of the
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crew and performiassengers and found no links to terrorism. satellite lot of ground control. they change an alttut during that time. the plane likely flew along one of two distinct paths. the first north all the way up to the border of kazakhstan. the others south towards the southern portion of the indian ocean. that information has substantially changed the search area. it is now quite huge. we have been learning so many details. let's get to the latest investigation. what is the big focus. there is one big focus on the investigation. what is it? >> the singular focus is what it has been for the past eight days. trying to find the exact location of this plane.
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the search in the south china sea is ending. we know that as of this morning. they are refocusing attention on the west of the malaysian peninsula. they are making a move based on new information. the agency are getting creative and using satellite technology. it was never intended to be used for finding a missing plane. the plane was not intact and in the air about hours after people on the ground lot of communications with the plane. the data suggests this. it was as far south as the indian sea. malaysian time, it remained in the air until 8:11 a.m.
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they knew it stopped transmitting data 25 minutes after take off and 14 minutes later, the transponder that told air traffic control that this is flight 370 flying at this altitude at this speed. that equipment shuts off. two systems shut off separately and malaysian authorities said they found that suspicious. >> this was consistent with deliberate action by someone on the plane. today based on raw satellite data which was obtained from the satellite data service provider, we can confirm that the aircraft shown in the primary radar data
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was right. >> you just heard malaysian authorities are suspicious that the systems went off at separate times. but let's say there was a fire on board. it is conceivable as the fire spreads, the systems could go out separately. then you have a lot of other things that make sense like the plane changing altitude. a lot of things are unclear. we know the altitude appeared to be at 45,000 feet and it descended down to 23,000 feet. so fred, a lot of questions. the good news is, based on the satellite data, they had been analyzing ask they at least have a general broad area of where to start to look. >> it seems like the area is just much larger. it doesn't seem like they are pinpointing it at all. if they got more work to do.
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thank you so much. we will talk more about this trying to figure out these new facts and figures. theorys and scenarios. malaysia airlines said the disappearance is truly an unprecedented situation for malaysia airlines and for the entire aviation industry. i think everyone has an agreement on that, especially the next two guests. an aviation attorney and a private pilot. good to see you. a former inspector general with the department of transportation. there you go. she is also an attorney for victims and families of transportation accidents. let me begin with you. earlier today with the signal problem, do you trust the information that the plane could have been in the air for an additional seven hours? you are nodding your head no. >> the range of the plane is 7,250 miles. it could have stayed in the air a certain number of hours, but
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at that point they are out of fuel and they would have had to refuel. i don't trust the data. it's not consistent. the plane either went north and the route to kazakhstan is over the himalayas. there 100 mountains higher than 23,000 feet. even if you intended to go to antarctica, you cannot land there in march. they need to get the correction out and harmonize it. then i can trust it more. right now i don't trust the data. the plane needs 45,000 gallons of jet fuel and could not have refuelled. >> okay. what do you trust about the data? anything? >> i would have to see the data. there is a lot of questions and the data shows thing. you have to smooth it and
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someone has to interpret the data and see whether it's reliable and i think the other thing is you have to think about whether china would see this airplane if it was flying up towards kazakhstan and there is no indication of that. i think it's a lot more questions. every time they release information, it creates more questions. >> what sort of tools are available that have not been used or utilized. we talk about the malaysian authorities that helped them to determine the two routes. if you don't know where to look for the plane and can't search for the ping, could you, mary? >> they are doing that now with the various satellites. there many other countries that would have satellite datas and private satellites. they can expand the data by bringing in other satellites, but you have to have brilliant minds and both china and the u.s.'s great minds are working
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on smoothing out the data. the most of the authors have not tapped. they believe what they are saying. this is a huge hijack operation where they fixed the electronics and tampered with them. someone on board flying and the navigator. someone controlled the 237 people in the cabin who would have fought back against knives like on 9/11. you better be investigating malaysia air and should be grounding immediately. this is a huge plot. i don't see them investigating. that's a huge role. >> okay. so if we ruled out just based on my conversation with you, it sounds like and especially what mary is saying about the near impossibility of this plane flying into the himalayas, if we look south to the other route and we are talking about the southern indian ocean which is vast, incredibly deep. what kind of assets would be
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involved or needed in order to try to find a jet in that massive water? >> there is an expression, a needle in a haystack. that doesn't describe what we are dealing with here. given this vastness of the ocean and the vastness of the area that this airplane could have been, a needle in a haystack would have been easy to find. there is a lot of information. if it went down in the water which likely is -- it may be an accident. that will cause them to be able to narrow their focus. until they can narrow their focus area which they can do with satellites and with other areas if they see anything. >> how long does it take? why has that not happened yet? >> i just think they don't know where to start looking. they have the satellites and image working. they just don't see anything.
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once something is found by satellite or by fishing troller, that's what will result in finding the airplane. they will find it at some point. >> thank you so much. mary schiavo, i will see you later on in the hour as well. appreciate it. we are talking about days of searching. authorities are focusing some of their attention on the pilots as we mentioned the latest on what they are learning about them. dream it, purina pro plan can help him achieve it. ♪ epic classical music stops ♪music resumes music stops ♪music resumes [announcer] purina pro plan's bioavailable formulas deliver optimal nutrient absorption. [owner] come on.
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lumpur, malaysia where they searched the pilot and copilot's homes. are they revealing any more about what they collected in the bags when they left the homes? >> not at this stage. the entire investigation by police has been very low key in the fact that there is little information coming out. this whole investigation over eight days has been characterized by a slow flow of information. what we can tell you is cnn reporters were out at the home of the copilot and saw what the plain clothed police were taking away bags of evidence and documents of interest for the police. we have been told by the police unofficially that the captain's home, the pilot's home has always been searched by police. now we do know more about the
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captain. he is's 53-year-old man described as having a passion for flying. that included having a flight simulator in his house. that is likely to be of particular interest. question that is causing puzzlement, why is it taking eight days for the captain's house to have been searched? the briefing from yesterday said that police still have not been on the property. they now have -- farce the pilot himself, he has a passion for flying and has been a pillar in the community. he has got a following online and puts out the you tube clips of do it yourself around the house. he is active in that and has been helping under privileged children and been quite active in environmental issues. he is a man who is quite busy in his community. a father of three children.
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a grandfather. he has one grandchild. that's what we know at this stage. that's all a bit sketchy at the moment. as i said, it's not forth coming in their information. >> what about the persons? officials are looking at the backgrounds of all of the persons. is there anything that stands out that they are willing to share? >> again, not at this stage. there has been speculation and there has been a confusion. did it or did it not include a member of the ouiger community. the ouigers are an ethnic group, a muslim group that live in the northwest of china. considering that more than two thirds on the flight were chinese, if they can confirm, there may have been a ouiger on board, they will ob person of interest almost automatically. the problem in which the ouigers
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lived, there has been an active separatist movement coming from the province. they have been linked to several attacks. they claimed responsibility for some. they have been blamed by police for others. police say it was a separatist group carried out in the attack a couple of weeks ago. a horrific attack with 30 people stabbed to death at a train station. they have not claimed responsibility for that, but police are putting the blame on the ouiger separatists. if there ouigers on board, obviously they will be investigated thoroughly. all passengers are being investigated. the prime minister said the focus and the refocus is likely very much on the crew of the passengers because of what the prime minister calls evidence of deliberate action in the cockpit to take the plane out into the
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western area into the indian ocean. >> andrew stevens from kuala lumpur. let's talk about the focus of the pilots. let's bring in an aviation attorney who is a private pilot. he stuck around to talk more on this. let's talk about the various scenarios. everything is on the table. let's talk about the potential investigation involving the pilots looking into them whether they were forced into diverting the plane. whether terrorism is something that is being entertained or was it simply something catastrophic and an accident. you wrote an article about pilots and suicide. are you seeing any hall marks based on the information we have about the potential whereabouts
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of the plane to what you find to be the command commonalities of suicide missions. >> it's difficult to draw any commonalities because the data sample is so small. over the last two decades, there have been about 24 cases of pilots committing suicide. that's over thousands and thousands of pilots and planes. it's impossible to draw commonalities between them because the population is so small. any pilot who has killed themselves in the last two decades using his airplane have been both male and little aged. that small demographic does fit the pilot of the malaysia airlines plane. >> since we heard from the prime minister that they have reason to believe there was a deliberate action that led to why this plane went off course. as you hear the dialogue about whether it could be pilot
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suicide entertained here and whether it's a catastrophic failure and whether terrorism or hijacking, is there anything based on this information that has you leaning towards any of those scenarios? >> from the pilot's background, we are not hearing what we would expect to hear if the person was associated with the terrorist group. if this person was going through a terrible time and had suicidal tendencies. we haven't heard anything that suggests that. he does fall into the demographic to the extend. i do too. the next question is, i think what's really the reason to focus on that, you have an armored cockpit door. the idea that the passengers can take over the cockpit before the pilots would be able to radio a distress call, before the pilots would be able to change the
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transponder code to indicate there was a hijacking going on and the passengers who took it over would have to know enough about the systems. the easiest way that the pilots are in the best position to take over the cockpit. to disable the a car system. i think that's really the focus on the pilots. nothing about them personally is coming out. >> when you and i were talking about mary schiavo, she said if indeed this was a deliberate act and there is something sinister taking place, there was a hijacking or act of terrorism and all these are ifs, malaysian authorities have enough to say this was a deliberate act, why wouldn't they ground all malaysian airline flights. why wouldn't there be a stoppage of all flights if not temporarily? >> i guess what they are suggesting i think is that
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somebody took over the airplane. i don't think they are suggesting -- they are not even suggesting it was their pilots and not suggesting there is a major experience. i don't see anything. you could do that out of extreme caution, but to the idea that there was a number of professionals, you have to understand professional pilots are among the most scrutinized groups of people. they have to see medical professionals regularly. if they have problems, they will find out. i tend to doubt if it's pilot involvement, you are talking about one. probably not two of the pilots. >> before i let you go, in your reporting, is there anything that is indicating what a more reasonable gut feeling should be here? >> i want to reaffirm what was said. the pilots are the most
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scrutinized people across the nation and the world. in the united states, pilots have to undergo examination every six months if they are over the age of 40 and every year if they are under the age of 40. they are held to the same standards that they undergo chest and hearing and eye exams. when i look at the malaysian examination file, i did not see anything to indicate that they undergo a medical or mental evaluation. it was purely physical. >> thanks so much. appreciate it. >> thank you very much. >> another big story we are following today. people in crimea are just now hours away from a controversial referendum that could have them breaking away from the ukraine. we will go live to the un for the latest on a push to validate that vote. [ female announcer ] we'll cook all day today,
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. we will have the latest on the disappearance of flight 370 in a moment, but another story we are following, the crisis in ukraine. we learned from ukraine about 60 russian troops with helicopters and with armed vehicles crossed into a region of ukraine that borders crimea, officials say the borders have taken defensive positions after the united nations security council brought a resolution that would have declared crimea's upcoming vote invalid and that vote happening tomorrow, we are talking about the referendum will give people in crimea the choice to join russia or become independent. the u.s. said the move is illegal. russia has supported crimea's vote. when it came down to the un security council vote today, everywhere was watching the russian ambassador.
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richard roth is there for us live. take us to what happened. >> on his way into the council. they told reporters no surprises here today. everywhere knew for sure moscow would be vetoing the resolution. as you stated, the resolution would have affirmed the sovereignty and integrity and declared this referendum invalid and would have asked all member countries not to recognize the results. the russian ambassador put his hand in the air and was doa. china's ambassador said they were glad unlike with syria, china could be peeled away from russia regarding voting on the party matters. the real action is overseas and the union sanctions are likely. there was a fierce exchange of words between the russian delegate and the ambassador. a lot of it came down to who is
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telling the truth. >> under the un charter, the russian federation has the power to veto a security council resolution. it does not have the power to veto the truth. >> the ugz ambassad. russian am there was a large exchange of history and world war ii and who shed blood. it was a wide ranging scathing attack by countries behind closed doors. then as the meeting was under way, there were reports of russian troops making an incursion into territory near crimea, a neighboring border area. the ambassador told them about it and explaining to reporters also that some 40 to 60 russian troops have come across with three armed vehicles.
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he said he denounced where they get their word by phone calls and other messages from the military people. the security council is poised to mead again. this was the seventh meeting. >> richard ross, you knew my middle name. thanks so much. let's get reaction from are u ush -- russia. it was expected that russia would veto the vote. how does it set the stage for the referendum vote? >> it doesn't change anything. the vote will take place. i think it's logical to expect the majority will go for independent and joining russia. you consider that 60% of the population is russian. probably the population is 24% will abstain or vote against it, but the majority will vote for
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it. what that will lead to is anyone's guess, but the way things will be shaping up, it looks like russia will then say already, you want to join the russian federation, you are an independent country and therefore we have the right to say okay, fine, we will do that. and i don't think it will be a good one. it being los like that's the way it will move. president putin has a deal up his sleeve that will be acceptable to ukraine and the united states. >> all right, vladimir. people are given an option for to join russia. do you have any doubt people would be voting for independence? >> well, i think that probably the majority are going to say we want to be with russia. it's a small peninsula. being independent means what?
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economically they don't have much. they are going to be dependent on someone for energy and all kind of things. probably russia did not pay to be their choice if they want to be separate. it seems to me they do. >> thank you so much. appreciate it. also we are tracking that mystery surrounding the disappearance of malaysia airlines flight 370. in just a minute, where they think the plane may have gone. ♪
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here's new information and a new focus we can share with you. cnn learned they searched the pilot's home and this is video of leaving the copilot's home. they are zeroing in on the crew and performs. authorities said the jet appears to have been deliberately diverted. they stopped short of calling it a hijacking. the search area is expanding as far north as kazakhstan and as far south as the southern indian ocean. satellite shows the plane may have flown another seven hours after the last contact with the pilot. china's state news agency said two chinese war ships, one equipped with under water robots are headed to the strait to search for the plane. they are expected to arrive later on today. how did the search crews determine these two possible areas that the plane may have gone?
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chad meyers is here to help map it all out. >> we all know about gps, but we need three things. three satellites intersecting at one spot. what we have here with the airplane is only one ring. only one satellite ping so far. your car could be anywhere along that circle. not right there because we don't have intersecting lines. no intersecting lines. we have arks here because this is the satellite that was pinged. the circle would be around like this. for now, we know that this, somewhere in here at 8:11 a.m., the plane was located. we think the end is here only because that's where the plane would have run out of gas. if it was only fuelled to go to beijing. there may have been something more sinister on the ground and
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there may be more fuel and that may have to go further. these lines do not mean that the plane went on this course. all this means is 8:11 in the morning when it got a ping, the plane was somewhere along this line. this ark or this ark. it could have had more fuel, could have flown for a few more hours. that's the last ping they had. assuming the plane was almost out of fuel at that point in time. it narrowed the search a little bit, but not much. >> thank you so much. let's go deeper now into how satellite is used in searches like this. from washington, a geographjeij. does this further complicate things? >> i think it does help narrow
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the search, but as you saw on the maps, it's a huge area. i think it is important to note the way they came up with the arks is actually very different than the way gps fits or works. from what i understand those arks were used by communications from a satellite in something they called geostationary orbit out 23,000 miles above the surface. they were able to tomorrow how far away the aircraft was from the satellite that allows you to narrow it down to the different process. you see given the size of those arks, if thatidate holds up, we are looking at a huge ark that goes all the way up in the central asia area and we need to refine the width. >> is there any other assistance that will help narrow that scope in any way?
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might there be another satellite with another view or vantage point or way to tighten the range? >> absolutely. the way you can start looking for evidence of where an aircraft might be or at least pieces of an aircraft would be to use imagery from orbiting satellites. they don't necessarily help you narrow down the search range, but once you get an area of interest, you can focus in on that area and look for evidence. some satellites in orbit probably wouldn't be useful for looking for an aircraft because they can't see details that small. the kinds of satellites we see on the television that tell us the weather patterns, things need to be the size of a couple city blocks to be useful. that wouldn't be visible. they are looking to find details to the size of maybe an automobile or even a large table that you have in your dining room. the problem there is the huge expansive area. right now there people in the
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general public helping to search through what we call the high resolution images. from what i understand, they have more than 100,000 people looking for the images, but it's such a large area and some things they would expect to find. it is very difficult to find floating in an ocean or wherever it ends up being. i'm not surprised that nothing turned up yet. >> even after now we are in day nine. even if you have satellite imagery that allows us to see your house or a car as you put it or even a piece of furniture, there is not that same technology or imagery that can locate something like an airplane? >> there two important factors to keep in mind. there is no really easy automatic way to identify an aircraft or anything like that. in other words, we don't have a computer program that we can look at the imagery and say find and identify where an aircraft might have ended up.
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it takes human interpretation. when people are looking on the internet map servers and used to looking in the back yard or the neighbor's back yard, you can identify things because you know where you are looking. the problem with this huge area is such a large area it's going to take a long time to pour over the images to see if anything turns up. i'm not terribly surprised that nothing has come up in the sources. >> andrew johnson, thank you so much from the smithsonian air museum. we are into day as of 1:30 eastern time in the search for this plane flight 370. the mystery grows deeper and the area of the search grows wider. what does it mean now that more countries are being included in the search? create a three course italian dinner with olive garden's new cucina mia for just $9.99.
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would there be the kind of assets involved in or being able to help locate this plane? >> you would expect that to be some information to be generated. if you look at the northern route, and what you have to remember with the ark is it's less a route and more along that ark somewhere. it's at least one time they checked in. you have a large area where potentially that aircraft was over chinese airspace in the west of china across some of the western deserts. kerg kyrgyzstan and cause ek stan. they have sophisticated air and radar systems. did they miss something going through the airspace? it wasn't identifying itself.
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you would have expected these countries to be on top of the air defenses enough to be away of it and questions what it was. perhaps there is information that can be pretreefed about that. focusing in on the aircraft. again, it's looking for a needle in a haystack by going back through radar in that part of china at the time and that part may throw something up. >> nick, besides military, what other groups might be in that region? any militant or separatist that investigators might be either looking for or alarmed about? >> i guess one of the things that jumps out here is that the possible route that the mh 370 took as it went across western china would have taken it across the route of a hijacking in june
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of 2012. the chinese authorities blamed six ouigers who they said were aboard the aircraft to try to tossel with other performs and trying to break into the pilot's cabin on the aircraft minutes after it took off from the town. it's sort of pretty close to the red line. we just can't read too much into that. obviously when you look around for similarities, certainly people are going to consider that. there is not enough information to talk about the ouigers in this case, however there groups to the islamic party. the group who have made threats against the chinese government and these groups are becoming more sophisticated and have operations in planning where they have been for many, many years in the border regions of
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pakistan, afghanistan and are spread throughout that region and have issued threats. we can't stand those threats up, but in this region that plays over, it's possible that they may have team in that region. >> all right. lots of theories. nothing definitive as of yet. thank you so much. nine days after the disappearance of flight 370, more theories about what may have happened. we will run through the latest, next. first a look at today's human factor. >> 65 years old, mark the snake jones competed in the world wheelchair nine ball championships. he never planned on becoming a champion pool player, but it helped him overcome something that happened 40 years ago. >> i was asleep in a volkswagen beetle and the wheel came off
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the car and with impact my door flew open and i didn't have on a seatbelt. i flew out of the car at probably 50 miles an hour. ended up breaking my neck and my back. >> he was paralyzed and no longer able to walk. >> the able-bodied guys said let's play some pool. i said watch them play. this can't be that difficult. >> friendly pick up games turned into tournaments. >> it's pretty much undescribable. i just love it. i just love it. love the competition. >> it's a feeling he wanted to share with others like himself. he began working at the national wheelchair player's association. >> it's not easy. i know what they are going through. that's what our organization is about. getting people back into society. out doing things. >> dr. sanjay gupta, cnn reporting.
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that's part of the focus of today's "your money" coming up at the top of the hour. poppy har leah preview. >> hey there, fredricka. coming up on "your money," just how big is the black market for stolen and fake passports? >> it's absolutely huge. it is on a daily basis probably an average fraudster buys five or six. >> a convicted forger tells us more. that's coming up next on an all-new "your money." thanks so much, poppy. we're also tracking the newest developments in the mystery of flight 370. authorities still don't know where the plane could be or exactly what happened, but here's what we know right now. earlier today the prime minister of malaysia said the plane's communication system and transponder were switched off before the pilot's sent their last message of "all right. good night." so it appears that whatever happened onboard started before the communication systems were
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turned off. satellite information also suggests that the plane may have flown as long as seven hours after the contact with the pilot, and malaysian authorities say it appears someone deliberately took control of the plane. investigation is now focused on the pilots, the crew and the passengers, and earlier today, police searched the homes of the pilot and the copilot, and so now a whole new sequence of events that are raising a whole lot more questions. we'll try get into all of that coming up in the 2:30 eastern hour addition of the "newsroom." hope you join us then. we're also going to talk to an oceanographer who led the underwater search for airfrance flight 447 five years ago and ask about the challenges that are imposed on this hunt for the malaysian airlines flight. if it's in water, or if it went down, or landed on land. we'll look into all of that.
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