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plans for the next day, and all of a sudden she's dead. >> reporter: a year later president kennedy shot in dallas. his death at once shocking the nation and still causing confusion. that perennial question, could there be a second shoot her? >> the church committee concluded unanimously that there was at least, you know, two different gunmen, but yet that's been denied by others. >> reporter: it may be the greatest mystery in american history. lee harvey oswald was ruled the only assassin, but 60 years later a gallop poll shows just 60% of americans don't believe it. >> that was alexandra field reporting. thank you so much. much more ahead in "the newsroom" and it starts right now. hello again, everyone. i'm fredericka whitfield. just a few moments ago, past
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stan's foreign ministry says the missing malaysian airlines plane did not show up on its radars. france is now joining the investigation on the ground in malaysia. it is sending a team to kuala lumpur right now to review the evidence. and the top official in india said they temporarily ended their search for the plane while malaysia reveals the massive deployments from 25 countries. the search area now covers large areas of land including extremely remote regions. crews are looking along two corridors. one to the south and the other to the north reaching up to kazakhstan. satellite signals picked up on flight 370 for seven hours after the last contact with the pilot. but malaysian officials announced today it is possible the last satellite contact could have come from the plane on the ground. and the u.s. official tells cnn u.s. intelligence is leading toward the theory that the pilots are responsible. authorities are examining a
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flight simulator taken from the home of the pilot. our andrew stevens is joining us now live from kuala lumpur, andrew, who are officials saying about the importance of this flight simulator? >> reporter: well, at the moment, it's key to this investigation because this very clearly has been put forth that the pilots are an integral part of this until ruled otherwise. we know there was deliberate action take up in the cockpit. we know it was deliberately disrupting the flight and that the communications were turned off, fredericka, so the simulator in the home of the late pilot is critical at the moment. we know the police have disassembled it and put it back together looking at it. we are hearing from the police that they have not found anything yet. reuter was running a story saying there were programs on it showing flying in different conditions, different weather conditions. they were, reuters said, a normal sort of program. so we're still waiting to get
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more on that. and the investigation on the ground here in kuala lumpur is focusing on the manifest of who was on the plane and who they were. this is a diplomatic and political issue with a lot of background checks coming from other countries. what we can tell you that's come out today is that the pilot and the co-pilot did not ask to fly on this flight together. now, the crews of airlines are constantly being separated and put in different flights and different routes all the time. they had not been asked or been asked to work together. no extra fuel was also loaded on that plane. so we can rule those two out. it really is getting down to a stage when we're starting to rule things out. >> and has there been a response, andrew, from the malaysian government about its military and why -- if this plane, flight 370, did fly over its air space and did show up on
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military radar, why there was no response from those fighter jets or any one else within the military installation? >> reporter: well, i put that question to the minister of defense five days ago. if you were tracking this unidentified object, which appears to have the same sort of -- came from the same area where you last had contact with the plane, this object was flying back across malaysia. why didn't you scramble jets? and basically the answer was, they weren't tracking it in realtime. which means nonsort, when they found that this plane came back across malaysia, they found that 24 hours after the plane had been missing and were reviewing all their data. so basically it looks like a big security breach if nothing else that this flight could go back across, but the other thing is that it has put a vast amount of material and assets searching in
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the wrong part of the globe into the south china sea. the indonesians, which is a neighbor of the latest hit today, but the ambassador there saying, look, for eight days we thought this was going on in the south china sea, so we are not searching around where we are. now we know that plane may well be, may have passed, a, into indonesian air space and indonesian waters. so there are a lot of critical time lost because, a, that plane wasn't identified, and it took a long time, and b, nobody actually saw it at the time. >> wow. all great questions. once again, thank you so much. andrew stevens there in kuala lumpur. we'll try to digest the questions and get some sort of answers. from my panel coming up, pakistan, meantime, again saying the missing malaysian airplane did not show up on pakistan's radar. so we'll find out what that means coupled with the things that andrew just brought up. jack barker is a former faa
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spokes man and aviation consultant joining me in atlanta. phil savage is a former pilot and accident investigator. and mary shiavo is a cnn analyst. listening to all that information, what is included and what has been excluded or dismissed at this point, mr. barker, let many ask you first, what does it tell you that these pilots didn't request to work together, that there was no extra fuel as we heard andrew reporting there, no extra fuel on this plane, and pakistan is now saying it doesn't appear as though that plane showed up on our radar, which would have been part of that northward arc if indeed the satellite imagery is right, that the plane may have gone north or south, but at least pakistan is saying, not in our air space. what do you do with this information? >> there's a lot of information out there and you have to start
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ruling things out. the first sign of what the problem was was when the transponder was turned on. somebody, the co-pilot or someone else who knows aviation knows that that transponder identifies the aircraft, a radar that merely shows a target out there, a target on an airplane, but it doesn't identify it. the transponder sends a signal back say iing i'm flight 370 an flying at a certain altitude. when that was turned off it started the mystery. >> it sure did. is it your gut feeling, and we don't have a definitive answer, we are talking about a number of theories. there are only theories to work with right now, but is it your feeling based on that, switching off the transponder and communications that someone might have compromised that cockpit, that perhaps the pilots may not necessarily have done
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this willingly? >> well, that's very possible. you look back at some of the hijackings that occurred back on 9/11 where somebody took control of the cockpit from the pilots. it doesn't take a lot of skill to fly the airplane. once it's in the air. it takes a lot of skill to takeoff and land, but somebody could have gained control of that aircraft. obviously, somebody was in control. pilot, co-pilot or somebody who got in the cockpit either before or after the plane took off. >> mary, let me bring you into the fold here. you heard our andrew stevens reporting there that there was some level of frustration involving many assets in all these countries involved because they have been focusing on the south china sea and now they are hearing they should have been looking at the straits of malacca and concentrated efforts in the india ocean. it is too vast and a lot of time has been lost. is this becoming kind of a
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futile search or is it never futile? >> well, it's never futile, but it was wasteful here, i think, is what they are trying to say. is that they spent all the days searching someplace where if they had analyzed their data, andized their radar, they wouldn't have done that. it was probably out of frustration and everybody is frustrated because in the eight days of delay, evidence has floated away. evidence has sunk to the bottom of the ocean, i think. things have gotten away. and then the other thing about the news, i really have to comment that's really important that the pilots did not ask to watch or fly together and did not take on more fuel. that means that if the two of them were involved in some kind of a plot, they didn't do it together. and because they would have had to have insured they were flying together and not taking on additional fuel means they were not headed on the northern route. they were not heading over the himalayas intentionally.
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>> because you spelled out yesterday just how much fuel you would need, the 777, 7,000 miles at 40,000 feet, but you've got to have the right amount of fuel. and the amount of -- or the locality of some of the trajectories we see are just not possible that the plane could have made it there. thank you so much. all of you, we'll talk with you, mary, jack, phil, later on this hour. we'll have much more on the disappearance of the malaysian flight 370 after this. what does an apron have to do with car insurance? an apron is hard work. an apron is pride in what you do. an apron is not quitting until you've made something a little better. what does an apron have to do with car insurance? for us, everything.
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they are now examining a flight simulator found at the pilot's house. the search for flight 370 is covering a huge area of water and land. chad myers is here to give us a sense how big this operation is. yesterday we were talking about this arc based on satellite imagery and now hear that pakistan says on our radar that plane did not appear. so what does this mean? >> let me tell you why that's significant. now that we know that the plane hasn't left kuala lumpur and turned left may have missed indian and flew into pakistan. pakistan said, nope, we did not see the plane that wasn't there. it doesn't mean it was not 500 feet off the deck and never saw it. possibility, but i think their air defenses are pretty good. we also believe india's air defenses are very good. this plane now, the only way it can get to this northern arc, is up through bangladesh. somewhere in this area back through here, the old miramar, the old country known as burma. air defense is not so good, especially if this is only a
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couple hundred feet off the deck. then you have to climb over the himalayas, waste some fuel to get up there, and then here is kazakhstan. this is not a flight path. we are focusing on the red line here, they are not flight paths. it is a line that says the plane was on this line at 8:11 a.m. that's it. it's just a point. this is also not a potential flight path. it just means that's where the plane happened to be. >> but if we look at what you just demonstrated there and talk about the possibility or the plausibility of this 777 with the amount of fuel that it had to go from kuala lumpur to beijing, could it have made that trek when going to the need for more fuel in order to go greater mileage? >> if you take a direct flight from kuala lumpur to beijing, 2500 miles. you also add 10% to 20% in case you have to circle or get
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diverted. >> but we are told there was no added fuel to this plane, but you say the 20% still applies. >> there's still a reserve. you won't load the plane on that and say make it to beijing or else. you give it an extra 20% in case you have to divert. now you're talking 3,000 miles worth of fuel. guess what? if i take this line and turn left, i fly here, i'm just saying, i don't want know that this happened, but it's a possibility. if this comes up here, we fly over the mountains and end up here, that's 3,000 miles. that's right to the end of what the fuel would have been on the reserve. but it's possible to get there. and flying over mountains that are 23,000 feet high is not a big deal for a plane that's flying 39,000 feet. >> even though you are expending more fuel getting over them at 23,000 feet to the himalayas. >> maybe. but you don't go higher. >> doesn't matter. >> if the mountains were 50,000 feet and you had a flight over that, that's a problem, but they are not higher than the top of the aircraft. >> chad myers, we'll check back in with you. very fascinating.
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the election in crimea is over as the polls closed at the top of the hour. we just got preliminary results. officials are saying more than 90% of the vote went in favor of joining russia. pro-russian supporters are already celebrating in the capital city. we'll go live to crimea for more on that coming up. and now to other developments
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overseas in the search for flight 370. a short time ago, pakistan's foreign ministry said that the plane did not show up on its radars. france is joining in the investigation on the ground in malaysia. it is sending a team to kuala lumpur to reveal the evidence being collected or investigated. and a top u.s. military official in india says that country is now temporarily ending its search for the plane while malaysia reveals the massive deployments from 25 countries now. we'll talk more about the investigation into the jet's disappearance with three experts. jeff barker is a former aviation consultant, bill savage is a former 777 pilot, and mary schiavo is a cnn aviation analyst. the malaysian police are still analyzing the flight simulator taken from the home of the pilot. we know that there are
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background checks being done on the passengers, and that's been cleat. and apparently there are no red flags. so what more is on this to-do list for investigators? bill, to you first, do you feel like investigators are now trying to refocus their search or the focus of this criminal investigati investigation? do they feel comfortable enough to turn away from the fact that the pilots may not have been complacent. it appears now according to national authorities they did not request to work together. there was no additional fuel requested for the plane. does that start to make you think investigators would look less at the pilots or do they still need to investigate further? >> well, i would think that the pilots probably are not in concert with whatever plans are put here in one of them was about foul play.
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the thing that is confusing to me is that if only one pilot was doing this, he would have to eliminate the other pilot. because nobody is going to sit still for seven hours in that type of airplane and go along for the ride when the other guy announces that i have a plan here. so the other thing that bothers me is when you look at the flight of the aircraft, that extreme climb to above the ceiling of the aircraft and the zig-zagging going on and the rapid descent. >> 24,000, sometimes 30,000, sometimes 45,000. okay, continue. >> well, it went from 45,000 feet down to 23,000 feet as reported yesterday or the day before. and an experienced and well-trained pilot would not have made an excursion like that. even if he did have something in
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his plan. you would keep the plane as automated as you could, but you wouldn't be hand-flying the airplane that way. and allow the excursions that were taking place. >> so this essentially tells you what, the pilots wouldn't do this but somebody experienced enough could be in the cockpit and take control of these things? >> well, minimally experienced enough to be able to hand-fly that airplane. it does take a great deal of training, i hate to disagree with my colleague here, but it takes a great deal of training and experience to operate that automation system efficiently and effectively. and it looked to me like the airplane was being hand flown at some juncture, meaning one of the pilots or both has been disabled. >> okay. >> hold that thought. >> the other thing to point out -- >> all right. make it quick. >> the other thing to point out, well, both these gentlemen are
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evaluated on a continual basis and have friends in the crew force that would know of their personal problems or lifestyles or whatever that would lead them to be doing something as crazy as this. the and we're not hearing any of that. they were both highly respected pilots among their crew members. >> we'll continue this after the break. i have a lot more questions and you all have a lot more expertise in which to share with all of us. thank you so much. so solving a mystery of flight 370. we'll ask more questions of these aviation experts about their theories, next. hi, i am elvis from memphis, tennessee. when you think of memphis, you think of barbecue and blues. most of all, you think about elvis. ♪ well since my baby left me >> this is where it all began, sun studios. >> elvis presley started recording here in 1953.
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uh-oh. geico. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. a critical vote in crimea on a referendum to join russia is now over. the polls are closed and we expect to get results very soon. it is widely expected that the vote will go in favor of joining russia. and according to exit polls, it appears that did happen. the people already celebrating in the streets in the capital city. senior international correspondent nick payton walsh is live in the capital city and christian amanpour is live. nick, to you first, clearly people are celebrating there, what does this mean for people
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in their daily lives now that possibly based on real results when they come out, that korcr will join russia? >> reporter: people are swept up in what russia has been telling them for the last two years, and that means returning to their mother land in some ways. a great majority of crimea ethnically russian speaking citizens, and a lot of misinformation being sold to them by the russian-backed media about the threats that the new government faced towards them. so some degree of celebration we are seeing around me. a rock concert later on with a lot of russian flags. people in significant numbers out here because there's been significant support for joining russia. i should also point out that 21,500 russian troops in the crimea peninsula are making that vote possible. plus we simply haven't heard
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from the other side of the argument around this election. normally it's a contest of opinions. that's not being the case here. what does it mean for their daily lives? possibly uncertainty. nobody quite knows how, for example, crimea gets electricity and mobile phone service if the mainland in ukraine decides to cut them off. now it seems they are voting to join russia here. exit polls just shy of 90%. almost certain here what we'll hear behind me, the preliminary result to ask moscow to open divor endorse the russian government. >> many have said they will not recognize this secession. and in germany, they may freeze results. what does this mean for the world if it is illegitimate? >> reporter: a lot has been made
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that vladimir putin said he won't make a decision on what to do with crimea after the referendum that just happened. so what will he do? will he decide to an exit or look for some kind of diplomatic solution? we just don't know. it is, as you say, an illegal referendum by the united states and europe. they will recognize the vote being taken at the barrel of a gun after russian military intervention with overwhelming propaganda trumped up just the russian state of voice being heard in ckorecr crimea. there's information for the people of crimea and this trumped up notion that they were somehow belittled by ukrainians and needed russian help. all that is being denied and negated by the west that really uses and views this as a slow motion of a bad movie. what can they do?
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start with sanctions tomorrow. we'll see just what kind of sanctions they are, but we understand they are going to be at least initially targeted at those in the kremlin and in the crimea that have something to do with this referendum and presumably they will be widened or not depending on what happens next. will vladimir putin an annex cra and go into ukraine proper? those are two things the west is watching properly. >> the house could pass the economic gain package to include sanctions, but what kind of sanctions would cause any kind of crippling to russia? >> reporter: well, look, fredericka, a lot of people have said no amount of isolation is going to make a difference. that's not the view of a lot of business people in russia who believe they have been so knitted into the international community that their businesses will be harmed. and by extension as this goes on
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and on and on, if russia is really isolated and if there is a direct economic knock, that eventually will start to impact people's lives. now, obviously, we are talking long-term and don't know the extent of the sanctions being planned and don't know how they are going to hurt or who they are going to hurt or when. some people have said, well, russia can just cut off gas and energy to the west. others have said, well, actually, they can't really because they actually need the money from those sales. at this point it is very difficult to know what the ramifications are going to be, but the real thing is, does vladimir putin want a solution to this or has he removed himself from the international precedence and the united nations and decided on a long road solo doing what he thinks is good for the greater russia. we'll have to wait and see about that. >> nick, let me bring you back in, so what about for the people in crimea who said, no, we want
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our independence? what happens to them or their vote or would their identities be revealed? would anybody know which way, if they were to vote away from secession? >> reporter: well, certainly there was no real choice on the ballots. that remain in the status quo to remain part of ukraine. the other of joining russia was to gain independence and crimea to become their own country. will some leave dcrimea? some of them are in deep vice president for the russian forces here. i'm standing in a sea of intense celebration here well orchestrated and funded, but that's simply because the foreign military invasion into
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no -- this is backing up the plan for crimea. these scenes are of pretty intense jubilation around me at the heart of the crisis that risks plunging u.s. and russian relations back to a crisis not seen since the cold war ended. deep concerns what this means here and what it means in eastern ukraine. people are dying in front of the pro-ukrainian crowds and pro-russian crowds, because it is called in for the suv. it is mindful of the need to be a -- russian troops are moving westward into parts of the
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soviet union and many observers of russia simply can't believe that they have struck this route. >> thank you so much. we'll have much more coverage on flight 370 as well. the other big story we are following today's result and the result of the independent referendum. that's straight ahead. when it's donut friday at the office
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malaysia is revealing more information now about the investigation into the disappearance of flight 370. authorities say they are now examining a flight simulator taken from the home of the pilot. no word yet on what they discovered. but they will undoubtedly be looking to see if the pilot practicing the same path the jet is believed to have taken. the u.s. official tells cnn u.s. intelligence is leaning toward the theory that the pilots are responsible. in the meantime, the search area expanded to large areas of land including extremely remote regions. crews are looking along two corrido corridors. one to the south, the other to the north, reaching up to kazakhstan. let's bring in cnn aviation analyst jim tillman, a retired american airlines pilot joining us from tee in addition. much of the investigation now is focusing on the pilots, but given some of the new information you learned about the pilots not requesting to work together and apparently
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there was not more fuel added to the plane, even though they have taken the simulator from the pilot's home, i understand it's not unusual for a pilot to have that. does all the information help substantiate the view that the pilot should be examined further or does it rule them out in your sue? view? >> in my view it is those pilots or others that are enforcing their will on the pilots and making sure they do what they are told to do. i have to tell you, fredericka, this whole thing has been very well plained and executed up to this point. i have no reason to believe that there isn't some end plan, end zone, whatever else, that's the target for them beyond what we have already seen them do. we have been behind them all along, so now if they had a plan, and if that plan included being able to set down some place, refuel a little bit, we are looking at something we may never see the end of. >> so if that plane were to land
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somewhere and refuel, wouldn't there be some sort of record in some way, shape or form? wouldn't there be, if anything, satellite imagery to show this plane landing at this place at some certain time of day or a day? >> there may be. but how quickly can we study that and come up with that information? by that time, how far is that airplane going to be from the last known point of departure? you know, we are down to a point now where we have to try to think as carefully as we can. and with respect for the intelligence and the planning and the experience of whoever is doing this, i think they have an end game in mind from the very beginning. and they have executed a lot of things that have let us down a road. are we going to the right place? i'm not sure. >> is it conceivable, though, to you that a plan, that a plane can land somewhere and ten days
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after searching it not be located somewhere on land but conceivably a plane can be in the water somewhere and over a ten-day period of searching, it still not be found? >> well, i have to ask myself, why would they be in the water? was it something that went wrong with their plan? and that's the only alternative they had? or are they leaning us toward that kind of thinking knowing full well if they can just stay a little ahead of us, refuel the airplane and keep going, that they are in the city, we will be in a lot of trouble trying to find out where they are. on the other hand, a lot of my contacts say you just cannot hide a 777. that may be true, and then again, it may not. >> one of the questions you have at this youngture in the investigation, day two has been missing, one of the questions i
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have is that it's going to take this to consolidate a lot of what we say we know and create a timeline to give some indication of where they will likely be going. i also have in my mind this whole business, i'm not an aviary expert, but people who look at behavior and trends and that sort of thing, let them have a crack at this if they haven't already. the ntsb has a human factors group. and they are very good at figuring out what pilots are going to do and what they have done. >> do you believe that that division of the ntsb would be volunteer to assist in this investigation? >> i'm pretty sure they have been offered. i don't know if the malaysians have accepted that offer, but we need somebody to get on board that can understand the thinking of a pilot and/or the crew to do these kind of things. i have to tell you, if they did this, they did it with help. it would be very difficult to
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pull all of this off without having some help on the ground and maybe even in the air. >> and it sounds like you are leaning toward these pilots being complacent, not necessarily be forced to be part of this. >> well, it could be either of those. they could have been forced. you know, they could have been forced by someone that also had knowledge of an aircraft and knowledge about what it could and could not do. but i am leaning, really, toward these guys being the ones that are really responsible. >> jim tilman, thank you so much. appreciate your expertise. up next, live from the white house, reaction to the historic vote in crimea. exit polls indicate that they voted in favor of joining russia. what happens now? after this. michael was in the french open to mark a key moment in
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in a city that is eastern ukraine, they ripped down a ukrainian flag and put up a russian flag. as many waited to see what the outcome would be, ukraine's government said the vote is illegitimate and the u.s. and european union also have stressed that this is illegal. so the white house is already reacting to today's vote. aaron mcpike is live at the white house lawn with more. >> reporter: fredericka, jay kerney just issued a statement. and as expected said the white house will not recognize this referendum. that they have rejected it and said this vote is not necessary and part of that statement was also condemning russia clamping down the pressure on russia. i want to red that part to you. jay kerney said russia's actions are dangerous and destabilizing. as the united states and our
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allies have made clear, military intervention and violation of international law will bring increasing costs for russia, not only due to measures imposed by the united states and our allies but also as a direct result of russia's own destabilizing actions. the united states has already imposed some sanctions on russia, but in the coming days we'll consider more sanctions and how they can increase. we know congress will be discussing that this week, too, fred. >> erin mcpike at the white house. thank you so much for that. straight ahead, i'll bring you all the latest developments on the search for flight 370 as well. right after this. >> i'll tell you what, louisville is playing their best basketball of the season right now. and their best basketball is scary good. of course, tonight is selection sunday. the cardinals have a pretty good chance to be a number one seed, but they can also be a number two seed. either way, no one, i would imagine, wants to be paired against the louisville cardinals in this tournament coming up. because right now they put together a remarkable game of
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late outscouring the last four opponents by 133 points. and last night they beat uconn by 10. and won their conference tournament. i've got to tell you, it's going to take a talented, focused team to dethrown the louisville cardinals the reigning championships. did you watch the pac championship? it felt like a national championship game. a thrilling half in the second game. unranked ucla pulled off the upset by beating number 4, arizona. even though arizona lost yesterday, they are still likely to come away tonight with a number one seed. now, with the wind, it depends. they should get a boost to a number high five seat. this video is trending on here for all the wrong reasons. look here, the mascots are duking it out. as a matter of fact, they have bad blood.
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all right. hello, again. i'm fredericka whitfield. an expanded search area now involving the search for flight 370. a refocused investigation, new clues now into the disappearance of the malaysian airline jet. here's what we know right now. pakistan's foreign ministry says the missing plane did not show up on its radars. it says if it had, it would have scrambled its military in response. and a top military official in india says that country has temporarily now ended its search for the police
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