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search for clues, any clues. so far, there are not many. they don't point to any solid conclusions. where the flight originated? malaysia. officials are finding out all they can about the pilot and co-pilot. they were in control at takeoff. something bad happened intentionally or not. police are also interviewing airline mechanics, cleaning crews, anybody that touched that airplane before it left the ground. that's back in malaysia on land, the area where the aircraft could be is enormous. 25 countries have sent search planes and ships but considering all plausible theories, that 777 could literally be anywhere on earth by now, anywhere. the u.s. navy is out there searching the indian ocean. stay there. i'm going to talk to an officer on board the "uss blue ridge." first, jim clancy in kuala lumpur.
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tell us about this extra close look the two pilots are getting. what are they looking for and what have they found so far, jim? >> reporter: because it is believed that it is only the pilots that could have disabled the communications system and then switched off the transponder, it is true every single person that touched it is going to be re-examined. the focus is on the pilots. the police searched the homes. some dispute, had they gone into the homes earlier in the week? that's irrelevant right now. we do know they took the flight simulator that had been built by the 53-year-old pilot. they are examining that more closely. with so far, what they saw was entirely normal for a flight simulator program, the ability to take off and land in various weather conditions that someone
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might set. their friends are being interviewed. people are talking about it there has been a lot of speculation. thus far, no solid evidence of a real motive from either of these men. they become just two more people missing from flight 370, until and unless some really hard evidence surfaces. don? >> jim, given what you just said about that simulator, why the intrigue? why do investigators appear to be fascinated with the simulator now? >> i talked to one of the people who was close to the investigation who said they are operating on one theory. they have many. perhaps the pilot or co-pilot had someone else on the plane to try to help them. there is no indication these two men in any way coordinated their assignment together on the
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flight. it was entirely at random. people are thinking about, is it a possibility that someone else was on the plane to help them? >> as they do that, they would wonder immediately, how would they learn about a 777. that's where the simulator comes in. the pilot and the co-pilot, didn't need a simulator. that's just a theory at this point that investigators here in malaysia are following up on. don? >> jim clancy, stand by. i may bring you in as part of this panel. i want to talk about the search and what clues international investigators have to go on. we are joined by mary schiavo and former inspector general of the u.s. department of transportation. rob mccallum, a 30-year veteran of ocean exploration, specialty is deep watt der searches and seth caplan is managing partner of "airline weekly," an industry trade publication. mary, i am going to start with you. what should they be looking for and where should they be looking? >> they need to look at the
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airline, the pilots, to look for motives and clues and where they might have been ed hadded and what they might have been doing and even if they have the right suspects in mind. then, those clues would probably help them to narrow in the search areas. because, without motive and some kind of indication of what they were really planning, it is difficult as everybody is realizing, to search the earth. i that i will help. >> the malaysians appears, they are getting a lot of criticism, to be less than forthcoming about this investigation. have they hampered their own investigation? >> it is difficult to say what they have done up until now. i was personally surprised they waited to look at the pilot's home and search the pilot's home and get his flight simulator. we haven't heard much about the co-pilot either but in the united states, after 9/11. that started immediately, every passenger, everybody that touched that plane, the security, they were all considered suspects until they were basically proven innocent. >> i have been wanting to ask you this since this all started.
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the longer this goes on, i am just flabbergasted that nothing -- where is this plane? it is unbelievable that it has been almost 11 days an nothing. >> and nothing and no tips, no clues, no sightings, no callings. after 9/11, things were just flooding in. you couldn't keep track of so many clues and people having seen something or heard something or heard somebody say something or noticed something in the airport, nothing. the silence is very odd. it could be frightening or it could be indicative of something. >> does the silence speak anything? does that speak towards anything? does it speak toward the possibility of terrorism? does it speak toward the possibility that the plane is just in socme place and we haven't found it? anything? >> to me, it is one extreme or the other. there wasn't a plot. something happened or there was somebody that had a plot in mind but it wasn't fully hatched. they just put the plane in the
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water. the other end is more terrifying. it was a plan so well-established and so well-executed. it is in total silence, total blackout of information. they certainly didn't do that in 9/11. it would be frightening. >> i don't know if rob is flightened abo frightened about this. if that jet is in the indian ocean, that's a big thing to be up against. maybe we shouldn't be so surprised. >> for us, searching the sea floor, it's really important to narrow that search area down as much as possible. when you are searching from an aircraft, you are searching at something like 200 knots. if you are searching by ship, you are searching at a tenth of that speed. if you are searching the sonar, you are searching at a tenth of that speed. the size of the search area is critical to our success. >> even if the jet has been in the ocean now for ten days, how
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does that impact this investigation, rob? >> from our point of view, not a great deal. we are not bound by time. when the aircraft crashed. we have found aircraft and ships, submarines, military hardware that's been in the ocean for decades. there is a drive to find out what happened to the aircraft. but from our perspective, it is better to be accurate rather than fast. >> seth, he want you to give me some scenarios. we have been talking about different scenarios, different theories about what happened. is there a chance a jet that large could have landed somewhere on land without any country detecting it or is that just implausible? >> it is highly unlikely. this idea that a plane like this, certainly, a plane, in
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addition, that was in some sort of trouble could have landed unscathed on some remote island going undetected, very unlikely. could it have crashed somewhere on land? we draw a circle drawing the radius of where it could have traveled during all those hours we don't know where it was. certainly, plausible that it could have been somewhere on land but more likely in water, only because there is more water. again, if you just sort of look where the plane could have gone down and because much harder to have something like that go undetected. to appreciate the scale of the mystery here and what the investigators are facing trying to find it, consider it an air france 447, went down off brazil. we knew more or less where it went down. the plane emitted distress signals. yet, it took nearly two years to find a lot of that wreckage on the ocean floor. >> seth, i am going to pose this question to you.
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if i had you on this show two weeks ago or three weeks ago, i am going to give you this scenario, seth, there is a plane that goes missing in the middle of the night and we won't know what happened to it for 10, 11 days, would you say, no way, don, that would never happen? >> not that we would know this little. i mentioned the air france crash. so many others where certainly, in that case, it did take really two years before we had some good idea, once the voicing data was recovered and another year to narrow it down. there have been crashes that weren't obvious within a short period of time. that we would have this little indication, not a whole lot of precedent for it. >> i am willing to bet that you would say we would not be in this position where we knew absolutely nothing, virtually almost nothing about what happened. >> i want to go back to cnn's jim clancy in kuala lumpur. i think it is apropo that jim and mary schiavo should have a conversation since we are
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talking about the investigation. jim, go ahead. >> mary schiavo, i have been watching and listening to you. i have all lot of respect for t investigation. one of the people is telling us they believe the airplane may have been taken up to a high altitude in an effort to render the passengers unconscious. wouldn't the overhead oxygen have automatically deployed? >> yes, they would have. taking the plane up to 45,000 feet, it wouldn't have oug automatically depressurized the plane. the biggest risk is that your engines couldn't handle it. you have to climb at a slow rate of speed, particularly at that altitude. what happened in that case, a dual engine flame-out. the engines couldn't handle the
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42,000 foot height an the rate of climb. at 45,000, unless the plane depressurized, the oxygen mask would fall and they have the little canisters, everyone knows what they look like after the value jet crashed. they were at issue. there were little cannisterses that would not have killed the passengers. and they would have the oxygen for the period of time the canisters will supply it. >> is a catastrophic mechanical failure completely out of the question now in your point of view? >> well, it would be if we had any other clues whatsoever. i still find it difficult we could have what clearly must be a multi-national plot to deliver a plane somewhere else. they certainly didn't land it in malaysia. there is a complete total information or news blackout.
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the suicide theory doesn't make sense either. we don't have a motive but maybe it is because the police haven't finished their investigation. motive in any crime, is just as important as opportunity. we don't have a motive. if it was pilot suicide, why ply for seven hours. presumably, the co-pilot and others would have picked something up. i'm not willing to rule out the possibility of a mechanical failure. we know the transponder has been turned off. we just don't know why. >> most people think if it had been some sort of terrorism plot, someone would have said something by now. thanks to jim, seth, rob, and mary. the ping from the underwater beacon ends in 30 days. what happens then? plus, frustrations, and tensions are rising.
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this is developing news into cnn tonight. it involves a plane, another bizarre situation involving a commercial aircraft. a delta 757 losing part of its wing while in the air tonight. a flight from orlando to atlanta, georgia. the crew declared an emergency. the plane landed. we are told everybody is okay. we are also told that the incident did not impact the jet's ability to fly. no word on the cause. a delta spokesman calls the situation highly unusual. again, they are saying the plane reported that an access panel had come off the plane's wing while in flight.
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can you imagine? being on that plane. a flight to atlanta georgia from orlando, florida. the crew followed procedures we're told, declared an emergency. the plane was able to land, offload passengers without incident. since we have mary schiavo here, that is quite lucky to be in the air and to land. >> lucky on a couple fronts, because it is a 757. the engines are on the wings. on a plane with a tail-mounted engines, that could have been a fob that got into the engines and injured the blades and have been much more catastrophic. on the wing, the 57, they are very old planes. once a plane hits 20 years, it is supposed to have an aging aircraft protocol, meaning to pay tender, loving care to them. it is very fortunate the kind of plane it was. it was not very comfortable to the passengers on that side of the wing. it would have been a very
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strange site with the panel gone. you would have seen the parts, the struts. >> could have been a little disconcerting. >> it is good the parts and struts were working. they were able to land safely. >> that's right. let's get back to our special coverage. we want to talk about this desperate search for malaysian flight 370. a brand new video. this shows a pilot and the co-pilot of flight 370 walk tlug security, at kuala lumpur's international airport. this is new into cnn. it reportedly shows the pilot and co-pilot walking through security at kuala lumpur's international airport before the flight took off ten days ago. we don't know again exactly. this was obviously before. we don't know exactly when the video may have been taken. the families of the 239 people on board are waiting in ago any for any word on their loved ones. as investigation ships to the pilot, the crew and the
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passengers, police are examining a flight simulator that the captain kept in his home. i want to bring in bob bear and mary schiavo and technology analyst, brett larson, who has been giving us great information about technology here. so bob, is malaysia botching this investigation? china is getting furious. india suspended its search in frustration. what's going on here? >> oh, i think they have completely from day one. the plane flew over pinyang. they alerted the government and let the chinese and us look in the wrong place and now they are not letting us into the passenger list completely. they are not sharing data. they, on their own, cannot trace all the passengers and the crew. the fbi needs to do it and the cia and the national security agency would have the most complete files. they are not letting this
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through. this they are in denial. a citizen hijacked this airplane. they don't want to admit it. >> as they talk about it, they are looking at everybody, from the pilot to the co-pilots to the passengers. people are saying, that is disrespectful to look at those passengers, those poor people on board. i agree with that. they have to look at every single scenario, background checks on the passengers. what are they looking for that hasn't already turned up? >> more people with stolen passports. you would have to have that complete list of passport numbers. you would have to be able to check it against melee databases or chinese databases. if you are going to wait a week, ten days, you are losing track of this airplane completely the longer they wait. what did they pick up on their
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radar? they have very sophisticated military. i would think they would have seen something. what disturbs me most about this, there has been no chatter of any sort suggesting that this was terrorism. you would think somebody would come up on a phone call and say, hey, it worked. nothing has come up so far. >> this brings up a lot of interesting points, a lot of interesting angles and looks at technology. >> when he says no matter, he is talking about technology. >> exactly. >> we have gotten a lot of scrutiny for our nsa and what they are doing and how they are tracking all of this. when he with step back and take a look, we have to understand we are not dealing with. this isn't an accident that happened in our country. this isn't an accident that happened in europe. these are disparate countries that are spread out that don't have the technical resources we have. if something like this happened off our coast, we have the best
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technology in the military and we are there and we could have found this, any sort of leads, we would have traced them down a lot quicker. >> bob, you brought up a very good point when we were having our discussion and you said, listen, the tracking systems and satellites. we were talking about that northern track. you were like, we shouldn't be so sure that plane wouldn't be picked up in those particular areas. i want you to talk about that again. i thought that was very important you brought that up. >> well, don, i spent a lot of time in central asia. that was my last assignment. the cia, i was in charge of that and the caucuses. you have the entire military infrastructure in that part of the world. it is decayed. it doesn't work. it would be very easy to get a jet through that air space. the problem would be hiding it once it got on the ground. if it wasn't picked up in central asia, it doesn't surprise me at all. even kazakhstan's radar wasn't
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very good. >> you want to discuss that, mary? >> i am reluctant to pick on other countries of the world. i'm remembering back to september 11th, 2001. we have had the same problems. i have worked cases in the united states where air traffic controllers fell asleep, where controllers aren't paying attention, where the radar is basically not being monitored. >> that's in the u.s.? >> it's very easy to get complacent, and specially at night. even in the u.s., we shut down towers and certain facilities at night. that's just what we do. we do it to save money and i imagine other countries do the same thing. >> i want to get this answer. we did say we would talk about whether time is running out with the pings. thirty days on the battery? >> other things are dissipating. for example, if there was any ex
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explex pl plosive residue. a jack screw is rejected from the plane. it is important to get that to see if there was any grease on it. so the ocean water can work a toll and so can a jungle if it is there. >> i want to talk to you about crowd sourcing, brett. we will get to that possibly in this broadcast as we continue to look for this plane. thanks to all of you. stand by. coming up, you are going to hear from a dad of one of the passengers and the pain he is going through. we must remember the family members here. what he would tell his son next? plus -- >> think about olympic rings. you have sishlg and another circle. that one little cross is where the plane would be, just like
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a delta spokesman calls the situation highly unusual. 239 on board with the stunning lack of information. it seems the passengers and crew of malaysia airlines flight 370 have at times been reduced to just a number. the agonizing wait for any information is almost too much for any families. jiga schubert talked to the family and remembers the image of the grandchildren begging their dead not to take the flight. >> for family of passengers on 370, the wait is excruciating. >> translator: if i had two or three, this father tells us, i might be able to accept it but this is my only son. he is waiting for his son, 34-year-old man, an i.t. specialist, who is headed to beijing for a new job.
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surely, they must find the plane, he says. that's all i hope for, the whole world is out looking for it. but i ask him, what if they don't? he answers, if not, only god knows. it is in god's hands. it is fate. he tells pea he worked 20 years as a security guard to put his son through college. at home, a wife and two young children also wait for him. he was responsible for everything, his father says, even these clothes i am wearing. whatever country he was in, he would call. once a week, he could come see us with the whole family. he really took care of us. >> he was telling me that the two younger children didn't want to see their father go to beijing. so they clunk to his legs and refused to let him go out the
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door until he promised to bring them chocolates and presents when he came home. it is very sad. before we leave, he tells us to call any time with any news we have. he hardly sleeps, he says. now, he never turns his phone off, not even for a moment. matica schubert, cnn, kuala lumpur, malaysia. it is hard to imagine a loved one on a missing airliner. let's talk about the issue with wendy walsh, a psychologist and human behavior expert. i am so glad we are doing this segment. thank you so much. we have to remember these families, my goodness, what they are going through. we had no wreckage, no debris, no evidence of any kind. should these families hold on to any bit of hope as long as there is no evidence, no obvious sign that the plane is gone for sure? >> i think human nature is such that people do hold out hope for as long as they possibly can. they cling to stories of maybe
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kidnap victims that are found decades later and these ideas. it is really hard to have closure when you don't know, when you are really coping with this idea of not knowing. >> one of the -- watched piers morgan's show the other night. there was a young lady whose husband had taken off going to mongolia. he said to her, i'm going to leave my wedding band and i'm going to leave my watch and if something happens, i want the older boy to get the band, the wedding band. i want the younger boy to get the watch. she said, come on, silly, don't talk that way. you're going to come back. she said right now, there is no fi finality. there is no word. >> it is interesting the stories of premonitions that come up
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whenever there is tragedy. a certain proportion of people generally are afraid of flying. we have a lot of separation anxiety when we leave our families. maybe that's all that was. other people and plenty of psychologists believe that the unconscious knows all. on some level, we have to consider the plane could be gone and passengers could be gone. we simply may not find any evidence for a long, long time. if it becomes apparent, at what point do loved ones have to accept the worst here. >> don, it's going to be different for everybody and every family. they may hold on to keeping someone's bedroom intact and all their cloething there for years while they are waiting to hear. i think it is really too soon for anyone to lose hope. they are hearing all this speculation about things that could have happened, that maybe
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the plane landed somewhere. i think to begin grieving right now, is probably too early for most of these families. >> this is an odd question. i have to ask you, when we are talking about finality, is it worse? what's worse, holding out hope and not knowing or having some finality knowing there was a terror situation or that it crashed? >> people grieve in different ways for different lengths of time. once you get through the grieving process, the big healer is going to be time. others may hold the hope. it just extends the pain for a very long time.
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learn more at first5california.com/parents 25 countries have joined the search for the malaysia flight
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777. the united states is one of them. a navy ship with specialized helicopter on board is in the northern indian ocean. recon jets flying mission day and night. like every other search group over the past ten days, they have found nothing yet. on the phone with me now, a spokesman for the u.s. seventh fleet, navy commander, william marks, on board the uss blue ridge. i understand you are in the south china sea. tell our viewers how the navy is searching for something you are not even sure is there? >> thank you. it is quite a challenge. honestly, it is something we have really never seen before, something like that. we have the "uss kidd" moving north in the adaman sea. they search about 1,015 square
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miles every day. they have two search and rescue helicopters. they will fly throughout the day about 3 1/2 hours each. each time they fly, they will search an area of a couple hundred square miles, come back, refuel, change out the air crew and right back up. they keep that going throughout the day. i also point out we have two aircraft, a p-8.si pie son doned a p-8, o'reilly. they have another four hours on station search time and then fly back. so yesterday we had a p-8 fly all the way to the bay of bengal, do a four-hour search and come back. like you said, we have not found anything. although, we could definitely see things on our radar. we see small debris, wooden
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crates, trash, but nothing from an aircraft. >> can you talk to me a little bit more about the methodology? is it a grid system or are you taking particular areas, we are going to go out this far in this direction this day or this direction this time? talk to me a little bit more about the methodology? >> it does start out as a sort of general grid system. we are actually now up to 25 countries who are contributing. it started out nine and ten and then moved up. even though you have a grid system. there is quite a bit of flexibility. so, for example, the p-8 yesterday, they had another couple hours of search time. they had to make a decision. they searched an area that has not et yet been coveryet been c where they saw a little bit of return on their radar. they weren't sure where it was. they made a decision to search the area with the radar return. it turned out not to be anything. there is a lot of flexibility,
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specially when you consider the size of the area. we have some very intelligent pilots and air crew out there. they are making the best of it. >> commander william marks, thank you. we know you are very busy. we appreciate you taking the time to come here. we want to bring in our meteorologist, chad myers. this search area just keeps expanding, doesn't it? >> it does. >> i want to ask commander marks. he is here in the south china sea. none of them, either one of those ship is is really where the arcs are. i wanted to ask them why they are not where malaysia thinks the plane was. maybe we can get him back tomorrow or the next day. they are going to be very, very busy. i woulden der if those helicopters can fly over land or do they have to stay over the water. commander, i hear you are still there. can you hear me? >> i am still here.
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i listen to you guys on td news all the time. >> thank you. the malaysian government has put these little arcs but your ships are not near the arcs. are you searching a different pattern or are you doing something completely different or do you have other information? >> the two are the northernmost arcs you see goes over land. we are not really flying over land. we do have permission from malaysian to fly over their territory. any time you fly over anyone's land, you need their permission. right now, just up, malaysia. the southern most side, where really no one is down in that area, to be honest, with our p-8, it will get out there, 1,000, maybe 1200, 1400 nautical miles from their base in kuala lumpur. if you look, that only gets you halfway to the bay of bengal. >> correct. >> it is just such a huge area.
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no one has really even gun to look in that southern most track yet. >> how long will you be out there searching? >> great question. when we started out in the gulf of thailand, it was a very defined boundaries. it had a defined parameter. normally, in the u.s. navy, what we do, the first 72 hours, that's critical to finding people and survivors. the first thing we do is launch a helicopter. that's what we do immediately. you have an essential point, a starting point to look. your helicopter starts there and slowly works its way out. now, we have a whole ocean. quite frankly, it's a pretty unprecedented scenario. i can't tell you how long we will be out here. we have 300-400 sailors right now. we had 700 at one point. they are doing a great job. this is a 24-hour business for them out here.
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>> good luck to you, sir, don. >> just unbelievable. thank you commander when you look at the size of the indian ocean. they are in the south china sea right now. even the south china sea, it is overwhelming to think about the amount of area they have to search. >> it truly is, buddy. we have now -- i added this up. i can do an area search on a google map. we are looking at about 2 million square miles. if you only go 200 miles one way or the other of this last potential ping. if you weren't with us earlier, i don't have time to get to why we have this red arc here and this red arc here, trust me, it is part of an complete gps low okay tore. we only get one ring here. the plane was somewhere along here at 8:11. if you go 100 miles either side of that, you get something almost two-thirds of the united states to search for one airplane. >> chad myers, appreciate it. coming up, i'm going to speak with a military and survival expert who says we
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>> they are on the ground to assess the situation right up front, take care of the casualties, separate the dead and wounded, unfortunately, if there are dead and start taking action as a survivalist would. take action to extend your period of life, your survive ability and chances of being rescued. there is a certain order we do those things in. shelter, get fire. everyone is going to need water, specially those injured and start setting up signal fires. >> let's hope your optimism is right. it is one of the biggest aviation mysteries ever. a plane and all of its passengers disappeared over lake michigan. more than six decades later, crews are still searching for
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millions of people around the world are asking the same question. how can a flight disappear
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without a sign? >> a story that has no ending. >> 64 years later and pain is still there for darlene larson. she was just five years old. her father was flying home to his wife and seven children after a business trip on june 23rd, 1950, i boarded northwest orient flight 2501 heading to minnesota. it never made it, vanishing somewhere over lake michigan. >> i was awaken by my father crying. she did her best to try to tell me what had happened, that my father was gone and would not be coming back. >> flight 2501 was at that time america's worst aviation disaster. the plane, except for some bits of rue mhuman remains, was neve found. the cause, never determined. the 58 passengers never recovered. >> it is hard to concept, because you don't have something to hold to, like a funeral or a casket or a grave.
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i was certain that he was wondering around the streets of chicago with amnesia and woe one day realize where he was and come home. >> therein lies much of the mystery of why was this plane so far off its course. >> author, valerie van des has interviewed the passengers from this flight. >> it is hard to conceive of an accident killing a loved one if you don't have the body. the mystery of 2501 is a mystery that has plagued these people for 64 years. >> haunted by the family stories. they have been hunting lake michigan for the plane's debris. >> finding that plane on the bottom of the lake would provide the final answers. that's what we hope can happen with the malaysia airlines accident. we need answers. >> answers that the families of 2501 never got.
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darlene larson and her six siblings grew up without their father. her mother never remarried. they asked that her ashes be spread at the suspected crash site in lake michigan, so she could find her husband in death. a single grave site where some of the unidentified human remains are buried marks the loss of all aboard the fateful flight. the living still coping. >> it is an eery thing wondering, not knowing what happened. >> most of us are riveted by the mystery of malaysian airlines, darlene larson can't bear to pay attention or watch the news. it is too close, too familiar. kyung lah, cnn los angeles. >> thank you. >> i'm don lemon. we will have much more right here on cnn and, of course, on cnn.com. thank you so much for joining me tonight.
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