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now. good morning. welcome to "new day." i'm chris cuomo authorities there holding a press conference. the headline, they have expanded the search area. there's a new search saying the pilot used the plane's computer to alter the course. >> thanks chris. malaysian officials say the search area is 2.24, two and a quarter million nautical square miles, bigger than the size of australia. the u.s. will scale back the role in the search as other countries pick up the slack. meantime, emotions are starting to boil over, 11 days after the
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plane vanished. relatives venting at officials. one woman wants the truth and doesn't want to be used as a political pawn. there's little doubt the plane went off course because of demand from the cockpit. the new york times citing unnamed officials saying someone in the cockpit deliberately changed the course. this person typed key strokes into the system to divert off course to beijing. >> someone put into the computer system a new direction for the plane to go in. it shows that whoever did this had expertise in flying. this was not someone on the plane that grabbed the controls and moved it. >> also this morning, china is
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ramping up its search within its own borders. chinese authorities say background checks on their passengers are clear. there's discrepancy on the missing airline's time line. the ceo said the final word from the cockpit "all right. good night" could have come before or after the system shut off. the ceo saying the system could have shut off between 1:07 a.m. and 1:37 a.m. when it was supposed to send out another message. this clarification comes a day after the officials say the plane's system was disabled before the message prompting the investigation to shift to pilots. for the family members of 239
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members missing the 370, the hijacking possibility has lifted spirits. >> among many families, almost euphoria because that means they could still be a live. i heard cheer. they're holding on to any bit of hold. >> reporter: the u.s. is scaling back its search in those waters pulling out the uss and helicopters. they're basing an aircraft in australia to continue the search. >> joining me join from kuala lumpur, a difficult one to track day by day. today is no different. what is your take on the report from the new york sometimes that key strokes happened because of demand from the cockpit. >> this is the normal way -- i'm not aviation ex pert. >> none of us are. >> i'm learning this is a pilot
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familiar with where he's traveling to enter a digit code to steer the plane to a set waypoint. that way take him to the another course he wants to take. >> this is good information. does this give us a clear idea of was this hijacking or something else? >> the hijacker could have forced the plane to do it. they just steer the plane. the other option is the pilot was in trouble and wanted to get that plane on the ground. he entered coordinates to the nearest airport to handle that aircraft. it needs more than 12,000 feet of run way. >> it still gives us something but still gives questions. >> more questions because we don't have the answer to the questions. we know it didn't make it. we know this plane went off. was it hijacked? was the pilot in on the plot?
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there's no evidence without the flight data recorder. >> from the defense minister, we just heard they believe this is result of a deliberate action in the cockpit. still not the hard evidence one way or the other who's behind it. still, we don't know the biggest question, where is plane is. thanks. stick with us. back to you chris. >> let's start with director of transportation and cnn aviation analyst. let's do what i said, start at the beginning. do we believe at this point the plane altered course? mary? >> i believe it did. >> we know it did deviate course. >> i think so. >> the question today, how that
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happened. the new york times report, this idea spoken with great response by the reporter, key strokes were done, put into the computer. do you believe there's reasonable basis for this conclusi conclusion? >> based on the conclusion that is accurate, let's go with it. it still goes with my assertion entry into the flight computer could have been indication they were trying to go back to kuala lumpur or another nearby airport. to me that means i've got a problem, need to head back. that part of my emergency check. >> let's go back. knowing what they believe a pilot did on the computer, do
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you think they have a sound basis believing that that somebody did something? >> they have a sound basis that somebody put in the four key strokes or more to get the key strokes. the timing seems to be off. it's reasonable that somebody was keyed into the computer. >> the a cars system means the investigators have to move off the theory yesterday that this system was disabled before anything else happened. if the a cars recorded key stroke, obviously it was working. right? common sense conclusion. >> who knows if that time line is correct. >> if acars recorded the data, then it was on. if it was on when they put in the key strokes, you don't have to be an expert to know that. right? let's get to what this means. why would you do that? some pilots come from different
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directions. some say never do that if there's disstress in the cockpit. others say you never do that. >> that would be my take, the latter. the fact they realized they had a problem and selected an alternate airport nearest to them. however, in confusion, if i knew an identifier of a specific airport, i would have put in the identifier and put in the key strokes. that would be -- i was on auto pilot. >> i think that too. you want to go home, almost like on star button. key in the nearest airport to get the plane down. the waypoint isn't the nearest airport. >> how do you make sense of that?
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>> it's hard to make sense of that and also the timing. we originally thought the systems were fine and they gave the last all right good night and then turned. that's when everything happened. now the time line doesn't make any sense. >> again, playing it from common sense perspective, why weren't they on the radio? that's not exactly how things work when flying an airplane even though you think -- the regular person uninitiated thinks why weren't they talking right a way to somebody? doesn't work that way? >> communication comes in third place if you're extremely busy. we know the co-pilot was the one not flying. it's a mystery to me, if they had the ability to key in the code, turn the plane around, they didn't have time to talk. >> they're expanding the search area a. it's my understanding malaysian officials were talking to u.s. saying we need your help finding that box. we believe there's something
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like 20 days left as long as it will send out a signal. does that sound right to to you? >> i'm not familiar with the system, but it sounds correct with the air france situation. >> does it sound like looking for 20 to 30 days in all? >> that's right. >> they're thinking that box is in the water? that's the only reason you'd need to find it in this period? >> at least the united states folks think so. >> expanding the area, yes, it is big, but what do we know about the ground to cover and assets in water and in air? >> they do the grid each country is assigned a certain grid. they break it into several square miles each and go back and forth until they cover it. >> it's important for people following this at home.
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this new information if all 100% true and accurate does not lead to a reasonable conclusion why this was being done. whether an accident in the plane or whether someone was forcing the pilot to do it or if someone else took it over, right? >> it lets me know someone was coherent and able to key something in, which is some news. >> do you have to have such is sophistication to add this entry into the computer? >> i can train you in 15 minutes to make entries in the computer. it's a little confusing. >> knowing what we know is not a step in the direction to know who did it or why? >> no. >> thanks for helping us along. it's important to test each piece of information. we'll continue to monitor the missing flight. there's a lot more to get to. a desperate search for eight
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chinese crew members after two ships collided. the japanese coast guard rescued 12 people from the ship after it collided with the vessel and capsized. at least a dozen are taking part in the search and rescue operation. a an alleged aspiring terrorist is behind bars. nicholas was captured near the border attempted to travel to syria to join the al qaeda-linked militant group. he appeared in court monday. he's charged with providing support to terrorist and faces 15 years in prison if convicted. a major milestone for obama care as we head to the deadline for coverage this year. the white house says 5 million americans have signed up in the last two weeks. that's an encouraging pace to the white house no doubt considering the program had such a rocky roll out. it is expected to fall short of the 7 million administration
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officials had initially hoped for. after a 90 minute delay, the pistorius trial got underway. the photographer said police took 900 pictures related to the killing. it seemed to show the gun was tampered with and evidence was moved. president barack obama will correct a historic justice today a warding the highest honor to 24 jewish hispanic american. it was looked into whether they were overlooked previously because of their ethnicity. melvin morris is one of three who are still a live that served in vietnam. a high honor well deserved. >> the fact the families can celebrate the recognition finally. so the weather yesterday, how about that? colder, turned out to be a snow
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maker for d.c. indra is watching that. it's on its way out right? >> there was another system behind it this morning. this guy also making its way out. keep in mind there's a little freezing rain around virginia this morning. what is this guys? it's supposed to be spring, right, two days away? we are talking about another system coming out of the midwest making its way to the ohio valley and eventually east tomorrow. keep in mind, it's not going to have a lot of rain and snow. definitely windy conditions. the bulk should be rain as it makes it's way across. upper portions of the midwest, minnesota out toward michigan, highest points could see heavy amounts of snow. everyone else, only a half inch of rain as this kicks through. the winds are the concern. possibly flight delays, 40 to 50 miles per hour as it continues to push across. that's one of the bigger stories we're watching. behind it, we're looking for
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spring. we're so close. atlanta, 49 for their high today. don't worry, by the time it's officially spring, talking 60s and 70s. d.c. 30s to 60s. we'll all feel better a lot sooner. spring itself, official day, has to feel good. i'm going to try for you. >> i like she can control the weather. >> very powerful lady. >> that's always a plus. >> remember it. we're going to take a break on "new day." when we come back, investigators turn their investigation to the pilots. what do we know about the co-pilot? we'll talk to his neighbors in the cnn exclusive. and we're waiting to a distress the parliament. we're getting word the russian president may punish specific u.s. senators in response to white house sanctions. we've got all that ahead here on "new day." ♪
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370. first vladimir putin will address the sanction as he addresses at the top of the hour. earlier this morning he formally notified the parliament that crimea wants to join russia. meanwhile the white house and european union have slapped sanctions on 28 russian and ukrainian officials including some of putin's top aids. one of those aids called being targeted kwoquote an honor. we begin with michelle. >> 11 have been identified by the u.s., 21 by the eu with overlap immediately sanctioned to freezes. for now, targeting key players while still leaving that door open to diplomacy. not everyone agrees this is doing much on what or should be done at this point.
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u.s. and eu decided the referendum to rejoin russia is something of a red line. >> we're making it clear there are consequences for their actions. >> those costs are real. >> announcing sanctions on two dozen ukrainian officials. on the list, a close aid to putin, one of his advisors, members of russian parliament, prime minister of crimea and russia's deputy prime minister that tweeted to president barack obama . or you didn't think about it? it's true the effect was hard to define. britain and germany described it as a statement. for the u.s., russia isn't a trading partner. many russians have bought property in america. investment is done offshore through identities. identifying the investor is incredibly difficult.
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>> i don't think it's going to dissuade him or change his course of policy. it tells putin if crisis escalates there would be a stronger response. i think sanctions deliver that message. >> limiting trade by the eu would have a strong effect. u.s. officials say they're hitting record lows but can't be attributed to threat of sanctions rather to russia's own actions worrying foreign investors. that's what might hit russia the hardest. >> john mccain called the sanctions tim hid and said why not provide military assistance to ukraine. many others asked how about sanctioning putin himself. administrations didn't want to discuss fully what the options are on the table at this point. michaela? >> from the white house to moscow where we mentioned the
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defiant president vladimir putin is ignoring sanctions and paving the way for crimea to become russia. moscow will reretaliate against those sanctions by boycotting visitors. >> in fact we know the russian parliament is going to meet today. one of the things they're going to talk about a side from the crimea issue is counter sanctions on u.s. officials. we don't know who those would be. top u.s. senators might be among those simply because of the fact among the russian officials sanctioned by the u.s., also the speaker of the upper house of russian parliament. we expect them to provide tid
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for tat sanctions. not only has vladimir putin recognized crimea, he's approved a draft form for them to join russia. the indication from officials is they want to move this along quickly. we're going to hear from vladimir putin in one hour, less than an hour. we'll hear what's on his mind and how fast he wants this process to go forward. don't look for him to be backing off. russians are in for confrontation with the west. >> certainly going to monitor that report. russia will ban members of the obama administration. one of them said my mother would be proud her son made vladimir putin's american enemy's list. many are taking pride to be on
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each other's sanction list. >> neither seem to be providing process on that situation. when we come back on "new day," kate spoke to the neighbor of the missing co-pilot. is there anything in the man's background to suggest he could have done something? the new report out about what they believe the pilots were doing in the final minutes. we'll take you to the simulator investigation. did the flight veer off course because of a preprogrammed compute instruction? how easy would that be for the pilot to pull off? we'll take you through that when we come back. [ woman #3 ] to travel the world without leaving home. [ male announcer ] whatever the reason. whatever the dish. make it delicious with swanson.
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welcome back to "new day" everyone. i'm joining -- kate of course. the search grid has been expanded once again. now covering almost two and a quarter million square nautical miles. malaysia is getting more help from other countries after being criticized for response. also this morning a new york times report out all but concludes the decision to turn the plane off original course, route, came within the cockpit where the change was entered manuelly into the plane's computer. now to a "new day" exclusive. so much direction has been on the pilot and co-pilot. i spoke with the co-pilot's neighbor who said he often sees the family but they have not
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been at house since saturday, the day police searched the home. like many others, the neighbor was hesitant to speak to the media and did not want identity revealed. here we go the family of flight 370 co-pilot reclusive since the media attention flooded their home saturday. their relatives now emphasis last words from the cockpit, "all right. good night" are a mystery. here seen flying the 777 just weeks before it went missing. >> how do you know the family? >> around five years. >> along the streets, the co-pilot's neighbor, a taxi driver says he doesn't believe the 27-year-old co-pilot would play a role in the flight's disappearance. he is a pilot and this is a
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respected career in malaysia, he said. it's an honor to have a neighbor like this. the taxi driver describes him ambitious, someone that loved sports cars. after he became a pilot, he bought a gti and bmw. i don't think he'd do something crazy, he says. he says he also viewed the father as someone important. he can't forget the most recent conversation with his neighbor when he said simply, my son is lost. >> when the father talked to you, how did he seem or act? he was clearly worried but seemed calm and able to accept it. his father asked me to pray for his son to be found, the plane to be found.
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i assured him that he would be fine. >> when i asked the neighbor how he thinks he's handling this. he thinks the go. is experienced, slow to respond, but he said this is an unprecedented crisis they're dealing with. a lot in that conversation. a little bit of color into one of the men that is almost entirely the focus of the investigation right now. we'll have much more ahead. coming up next on "new day," more breaking news coverage of the search for flight 370. was the malaysian airline hijacked? if so, are we missing clues on who would have done it? we will look at the pilot who foiled with a potential hijacking at controls. someone may have preprogrammed flight 370 to intentionally veer off course. we'll take you inside the simulator to find out how that's done and who could have done it. we'll be right back. co: i've always found you don't know you need a hotel room
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mr. speak welcome back to "new day." the new york times is reporting overnight the flight path and dramatic turn left was carried out through a computer. most likely programmed by someone in the cockpit. how would this work? how reasonable? joining us once again from the 777 simulator in ontario, cnn
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martin savage and pilot mitchell. great to have you again martin. this is your home away from home in in the simulator. based on this report from the new york times, show what this would take, the level of sophistication, the chances it's someone other than the pilot. take us through the variables here. >> what we're talking about here, this piece of hardware known as the flight management system. there are three of them here. one here, one here, and one over here. this is the one we'll focus on here. this is the heart of the aviation of the aircraft, brain of the plane. it's used for a lot of functions. basically because of this, you don't need a navigator and engineer on board. it does a lot of the flighting. it's primary purpose is navigation. we programmed, 370 would have programmed everything needed to fly this plane from kuala lumpur
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where we took off to beijing. it's preset, every waypoint, every turn, everything is in here. yesterday we talked about the possibility somebody could put in an alternate route and quickly access and change the trajectory of the airplane. right mitchell? >> that's absolutely correct. we've programmed the route. we passed the point b. this is the place they last made contact. we're still on our course to beijing. we're going to show how easy it is to deviate from that hah course. these are points long the route. they're not places just waypoints in the sky defined by latitude and longitude. if i wanted to change the route and go in a different direction like they did, i pick a waypoint
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on the screen. all these triangles are waypoints. i'm going to type this in here. uvuno. okay. then i just put it into where the waypoint i should be going to is. it asked me to confirm the coordinates. i do that. i execute with the execute button here. you can see now the airplane is taking this course off my regular path. >> so just a series of eight or nine key strokes that will send this plane on a complete areally different course. it can do it in the way the passengers aren't necessarily going to feel a really sharp turn. it's going to gradually get this plane on a totally different course than the one originally planned. >> it's not so much an invasive maneuver as a course change.
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martin, put it into context. we are trying to figure out why the pilots never communicated with the tower, given the information. the reason the new york times has this report is because they say they know the acars monitoring system recorded the strokes were in there. assuming the system was still up and working which is how they got this reporting, what is the reason they wouldn't be communicating with the tower if it was such a casual change to make? >> well, i mean, it would imply there's obviously some effort by whoever made the course change. they're shutting down the transponder. the plane is no longer pinging on radar. then the next thing they would do later shut down the acars system. we know this information came from the acars system still active. a short time later, it went off. we don't know where the plane is is now. >> that's absolutely correct.
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again -- sorry -- go ahead. >> it's in terms of keeping this, what we believe the sequence of events were. transponder is off. one line of communication is gone. that's why the tower isn't hearing anything. they make the adjustment, recorded by the acars system. it later goes off for some reason. does that give you insight as to whether they were dealing with a situation or did this intentionally? does this help or no? >> does the course change indicate they did it intentionally? >> that they were dealing with a situation they couldn't control like the transponder went off by itself or are systems separate to it doesn't lead you to conclusion? >> no, no. the transponder and course change are completely separate. the course change indicates somebody did that intentionally. it has nothing to do with the transponder, completely separate
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system. >> remember the timing this all happened. transitions from malaysian air space to vietnamese air space, no-man's land in the sky. >> to remind people how they disabled the system. it's a knob turn away. the acars, there's a lot of electronics under the cockpit in the passenger section. there are breakers in the cockpit right is this have mitchell show how simple that would be as well in terms of level of sophistication. >> acars is located in here, located in here, located in here and here. four systems independent here. you'd have to start shutting them down. you couldn't completely turn it off here. >> no. you couldn't completely unless you went down inside the bay below the aircraft in the guts of the airplane. you would have to have in-depth knowledge of the architecture of
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not just the airplane but electronics in general. you'd almost have to be electronics engineer to disable acars. you could reduce functions, simplify functions, get it back to raw data. you couldn't completely shut it down unless you had -- almost to the point of knowing how it's designed. >> that's why investigators don't know whether somebody had the sophistication and disabled it or something else was going on in the plane that took out the system. fair assumption? >> yes, that's a fair assumption. the latter seems a lot less likely. it's so sophisticated, so many backups. it's designed to not go out. i bet on somebody knowing how to disable it. >> we're well on our way on a whole different course. >> martin, mitchell, thank you very much. appreciate the time you're spending up there. it's helpful for people to put
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the picture with different ideas thrown at them. thank you very much. we're going to take a break now. when we come back on "new day," there are new questions about what happened on board. we're looking at it ourselves. we understand the little pieces of information. how do they all fit together? does it help the suspicion of investigators this was a big accident or something more intentionally, something hijacking related? we'll speak to a retired pilot who forged a takeover of his plane to get a sense of what was that like. we expect to hear from vladimir putin as he goes before parliament to discuss making crimea part of russia. he says he'll defy the u.s. and yo european other union. we'll hear from him directly. ck- just snap, lock, and go. [ scott ] feed your lawn. feed it!
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plane's disappearance. so if the pilots didn't divert the plane, who did. joining us now, retired pilot, former british air ways pilot, he himself stopped a hijacking of his aircraft december 29, 2000, during a flight. he is here to tell that tale. what a pleasure to have you with us today. take us back 14 years ago. what happened in your cockpit? >> well michaela, at the time there was one pilot on the controls. senior first officer phil wat n watson. i was taking my i rest in the bunk which is part of the cockpit area. it's behind the door, so a passenger entry wouldn't have known i was in there. a passenger entered because we didn't have a locked cockpit door policy at the time. he closed the door behind him
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and moved across toward the captain and placed himself over the central pedestal and on the lap of the pilot. >> was he armed? >> sorry the pilot? >> no. not particularly. oh armed? no, sorry. he was not armed. however he believe had prepared to do what he was achieving. any how, he placed himself between the controls and the pilot. he grabbed the control column close to his chest. in the next few seconds the aircraft went into an extreme loss of control. officially we soared upwards very rapidly entered a significant stall regime. to recover from that, the co-pilot pushed the assailant forward. we went into an extreme dive that exceeded 30,000 feet a
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minute. it was really extreme. it was during that period that i came into the cockpit. i initially hesitated. i didn't think i would be of assistance and might make things worse. i heard the co-pilot calling for help. i did enter. my priority was to remove the assailant there the controls. i attempted various techniques which over a period of one and a half minutes before the inspiration came to me eventually to gouge his eye. i had been aggressively pulling him. as i was pulling him upwards and rear wards, he was aggressively pulling the control column of the aircraft which had an enormous effect on the flight path. in fact, after the dive, it pulled us out of the dive which
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was quite pleasing. >> i can imagine. >> but then subsequently after a short period of what seemed to normality, it brought us to a second significant stall. we ended up with perhaps 60 miles per hour below the stall speed of the aircraft. it was falling at that stage. >> let me understand here then. so then you've got extreme movements happening while this struggle is going on inside the cockpit. you're finally able to disable to man and get him under control. that's not your only concern. now you have to stabilize the aircraft? that's a difficult thing to do given now what has just happened. >> that's absolutely right. that's why the hero of the evening is the co-pilot phil watson because at one stage we were over the vertical, 94 degrees of bank and very definitely stalled at the time. the danger was had that continued over we would have
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been in an inverted stall which i think is -- you can't recover from that. too much. >> you say it was a matter of seconds before that flight could have been lost? >> well, if the movement had continuing -- fortunately phil couldn't see his instruments but as we turned east wards, there was a sun beginning to rise, a brightness. he could see that which gave him a horizon. he was able to reach underneath the assail lent and bring the wings level. >> you work in conjunction with your co-pilot together. let me ask you -- we're trying to piece together if the potential that somebody breached the cockpit in the missing flight 370. was there communication with the
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tower. your concern was getting it under control in the cockpit and keeping passengers safe. >> absolutely. we say aif yat first, navigate second and communicate third. communications was low on my priority list. >> at what point did you communicate with home base or anyone else to let them know what had happened and to let them though you were okay? >> i communicated with the passengers immediately after the assa assailant was removed. i wanted to ensure them the cockpit was not damaged. in the bunk i thought initially the movement was caused by some sort of damage to the aircraft. i wanted to reassure people immediately. i spoke at that time to the passengers. speaking to the company took place probably five or ten minutes after we had
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re-established. we spoke to air traffic control telling them where we were, what the problem had been, and we were going to resume our flight path. we probably didn't speak to air traffic control. we spoke on the pilot's emergency frequency. it works much better than air traffic control. >> it's amazing the story you've just told us. it's a gripping and heroing tale. given the experience and what you know and all vast things we don't know about this missing flight. what's your gut tell you about what maybe went wrong here? >> well, my very first impression because i'm oriented to think that way is that there was a cockpit intrusion. as to what happened after that is mere speculation. enough people have speculated already without me adding to it.
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i don't know who, why, what the result was. >> it's an important thing to end on to tell you i read your account of this. you said prior to this event 14 years ago, you were a pilot. your chief job was getting the plane safely to its destination, delivering cargo. you hadn't given much thought to the human cargo on board. that day changed it forever for you did it not? >> i don't remember saying that, but yes, of course it did. as we were plunging earth wards, i felt the enormous responsibility of 400 lives there. i also then added to that when i remembered family were on board. i was angry this assailant tried to kill my kids and wife. that was my main thoughts. i was also aware, trying to be aware of where the ground was.
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i was very aware of the height loss at the time. >> that is retired captain william hagan, who survived and and a half ga navigated his aircraft to safety. thank you for sharing this story and giving inside into what happens when something like this goes on inside the cockpit. thank you so much. >> thank you michaela. >> just a few minutes before the top of the hour. there's a lot of news to tell you about this morning. the entire search area is now 2.24 million square nautical miles. >> the first diversion that the plane made was done by a computer system on the plane. >> there were clever about the way they slipped out of radar. >> governments around the world have to dig deep. >> when you look at expanding into the rest of the indian
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ocean, that's such an incredibly huge area. >> we're basically considering hijacking as the most possible scenario. good morning. welcome back to "new day." there is breaking news. a potential break in the mystery surrounding this malaysian flight. we hear the air force tracked an unknown flight the day 370 disappeared. we also know the search area is growing in size, approximately the same size as australia. also a report in the new york times focuses on orders from the cockpit computer. we're going to break it down with one of the times writers in a moment. let's go to malaysia, kuala lumpur where kate bolduan is standing by. >> reporter: good morning chris, from malaysia. before we get to that, word is coming in minutes ago. i believe you were just talking about it. the air force picked up an unknown radar signal the day the
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jet vanished. we've got communication on that. officials were tracking flight 370 before the radar station shaw the unknown aircraft flying in the opposite direction minutes later not sending out data. officials here are expanding the search area to 2.24 million square nautical miles. just imagine that. that is about the size of 48 united states. the united states is squalicali back the search as others step up. also a new york times report that the plane turned after a code was put in the computer. could it have been done on the ground before takeoff? that was the motivation behind the change? we'll explore that. china says none of the passengers on that flight were involved in hijacking or terrorism.
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frustration there boils over. family members of those on the flight are venting at officials. >> that woman in beijing says she wants the truth and doesn't wanting to used as a political pawn. that's the latest. it continues to develop still today on the 11th day after the mystery disappearance of that plane. back to you in new york. >> all right kate. let's bring in matthew, coauthor of this story in the new york times about the altered flight plan. matthew good to have you with us this morning. very interesting reporting. star start at the beginning. what is the basis for this report? >> the basis is various officials at various agencies that don't want to be named. all these agents have initials you'd recognize. >> got you. in term temperatures of why they
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believe it. this is data that came from the acars system that adjusts the sequence of events investigators have been laying out. telli tell us about it. >> that's correct. acars can be set up different ways. it can radio back to the ground the current flight. if you set it up differently, it will radio back to the ground the next leg or leg after that is going to be. at some point it radioed back or satellited back this change in course, this very sharp left turn. there are a lot of ways to change the direction of the airplane. you can grab the yolk, turn it, reach up to the glare shield where there's a heading mode. you can twist the dial. the smooth easy way to do it is enter it into the computer to head for another waypoint, another three dimensional point in space. that was done in this case. it's standard, unhurried.
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it was done by somebody who knew what he was doing. >> standard, unhurried and someone that knew what they were doing. where does that lead your sources on this? do they believe it was the pilot or some type of insurgent? >> this is a tough crash because the facts as we know them -- as you know the facts change as time goes on, change in sequence et cetera. the facts as we know them don't fit any familiar pattern, anything we recognize. it appears to go to intention alty. by whom and why isn't clear. the other point, there are two cases in the last 15 years pilots decided on a murder suicide. in both those cases they pushed the nose down and flew into the water. this isn't what happened. this went on for hours. this is a confused pattern with our limited fact base and
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sometimes the facts are slippery. we're having trouble putting into context. >> that is -- you know, a simple reality that you don't need to plot a course to ditch a plane. it sounds obvious. it's important to note. >> right. >> did you get from your sources because it's all the same facts here. the acars system -- what your reporting does is establishing the acars system must have been functioning when the key strokes were put in. obviously we wouldn't know about them otherwise. anything there your sources about who would have the know how -- >> that's close. >> go ahead and qualify for me. >> that's close. not necessarily when the key strokes were put in. the key strokes could have been put in while still at the gate, put in during climbout. however, at some point either because the airplane had made the turn or about to make the turn, this was the current
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instruction or next instruction. then it was radioed back. it depends on how this was set up. it's not completely clear how acars was set up to inform the maintenance on the ground. this is maintenance not air traffic control. inform the maintenance on the ground what's going on in the airplane. >> that's interesting. they know it was put in but don't know when necessarily. another answer that gives us a couple more questions which is the way this has been progressing any way. matthew, appreciate you coming in and telling the us what the reporting is on the new york times side. helpful. thank you very much. i'm sure we'll talk to you more. >> now let's fig you're out how this fits in the overall mystery. let's bring in analyst, inspector general mary. it's great to have you with us as always. >> thank you. >> you can see i'm thinking through this what we just heard. let's try to keep it straight. we know from the sourcing, let's trust the time, that their
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sources on the u.s. government side say acars recorded this other point had been put in by pilots. >> correct. >> we don't know when they put n it in? >> that's correct. acars tells you when the plane was starting to move towards that point. somebody had to put it in. it didn't do it by accident. for example -- >> it's not part of the main route to beijing? >> that's right. it wouldn't be the safety point. we talk before you have a safety point, enough fuel to get to your safety. this can't be it. >> the idea of who did this. there's a scenario that's neglected. we're thinking either i did it as the pilot or you did as the hijacker. there's a third scenario of someone forces me to do it. you make me do these things and you don't have to do it yourself. >> that's correct. another scenario, someone on the ground before the pilots took
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control or commanded the flight got in and did their preflight. you check your various waypoints and make sure you have beijing and safety at the time on your preflight. >> we've been talking about this acars system, it's become part of the common vocabulary of people following this story. we hear it's very sophisticated to turn this off. it's designed to stay off. so even a big event like an explosion even, it would take a lot to knock it out. do pilots know how to go underneath in belly of the plane to turn it off? >> no, they don't. that's not part of pilot training. you're not certified to do it. mechanics training is just as rigorous as pilots. you have to leave the cockpit. it's under the floor. you'd have to take the floor panel up and go down there and work. you have pictures of that bank of equipment. you'd have to know it, understand it. it would be difficult.
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you'd have to have a team. we know from the timing acars was still on when making the turn. someone is flying the plane. you can't put it on auto pilot and go down to the space. now we have two people in whatever was occurring. >> what is more likely in terms of testing the information as it comes out? somebody doing something to disable acars or something happening on the plane that knocks it out despite the fact of how difficult it is to knock it out because it's designed to stay on no matter what? >> in the scenario someone is manipulating the control, putting waypoints in or using them to fly the plane then acars goes down. the likely statistically likely to happen is something has happened in that electronics space to knock it out. >> david you're with us now. you're aviation analyst obviously and author of why planes crash. you've looked at this professionally and personally. when you hear this, that okay, a
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acars was recording. this was put in as a safety waypoint. somebody decided to fly that way. does it make sense? >> you know, it does. there are a couple of things pu puzzling to me. i've been of the thought this was executed and planned way in advance. if that were the case, i can't see why acars puff been left on why the waypoint was put in place. if they were hiding the fact, acars would have been turned off first, then the waypoint turn would have been made. to me that's perplexing if this was a planned event. that's not planning from my perspective. >> in term temperaturehe -- in understanding this event, how acars gets knocked out by any event, how likely is it to knock it out completely? what type of sophistication,
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planning would you need to take it out manually? seems difficult either way. >> as mary said, if you try to knock out acars physically by disabling circuit breakers, that's done down in the compartment. some acars systems can be shut off from the fms system. you have to get into maintenance screens. it's not really shut off. you can put transmission on stand by. that's only available on certain acars. i'm not certain which this aircraft had. it's possible it may have been shut off from the cockpit. more likely as mary pointed out it had to be done intentionally from the compartment which as we talked about before, that compartment is accessible from the cabin. >> then there's another new factor today to test which is what the thai government said we
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tracked a plane on the radar going without transmitting data. that's helpful identifying it as 370. what do you think? >> maybe it's a break or development. i don't know why they just figured this out now. if they were tracking a plane without a transponder, wasn't squawking or communicatincommun hopefully this was a break and give us indication of where it was going. and maybe direction of air speed. >> what do we know about where wha they saw in terms of where it was? >> no. they haven't said what they have seen. it makes sense to give it to investigators and get them working on it first. >> that's an excellent point. what matters most is investigators have the information, not us. we want to press them to make sure they're doing their job and test what comes out. >> right. >> david, let's end this particular segment on this idea. the black box. we have reporting malaysian
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officials are asking with urgency finding the box. to remind people following this story, what are we dealing with in the life of a black box? what happens once it hits water? how much time do we have? >> the box goes for 30 days, send a signal 30 days. this black box signal is not picked up by satellites. it's proximity locating the box. when on site and looking through the wreckage, it's designed to tell you where it is in the wreckage. it's notlike an emergency locater transmitter where satellites would pick it up. we have 30 days. in air france flight 447 the french authorities made strong recommendations the box life be extended to 90 days. that was over four years ago -- almost six now. why has that not happened? that's very concerning to me. i think action needs to be take on that.
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here we are waiting with not enough time to find the boxes. >> we have the three alternate courses we're following in this investigation. one is what happened and why inside the plane? the other is why is this plane so difficult to find in terms of what you're discussing now, the technology in the black box and how little it turns out there is in a plane to find it if something happens? and then of course the most important, as mary pointed out, hopefully a break through from investigators where is the plane? hopefully this latest news the thai government said they were tracking the plane they believed to be 370. they have radar coordinates to search the size of the search area, now the size basically of the united states. we'll leave that for now with mary and david. thank you very much for this. there's other breaking news on this story as we follow it. for that we want to go back to malaysia where kate is in kuala
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lumpur. kate, what's the latest? thanks chris. coming to you live again from kuala lumpur where the disappearance of flight 370 is not only a heartbreaking mystery for families of everyone on board but also for the people of malaysia. joining us for a better understanding of how malaysians view the government response to this and social implications of this. social activist and columnist and daughter of one of malaysia's form eer prime ministers. welcome. >> thank you. >> we have heard over and over from government officials. we hear from the defense minister. how are everyday malaysians reacting to this unbelievable mystery? >> we're all following it minute by minute, all the time because we've never had this happen to us before. we all feel for the families of the passengers and the crew on the plane. so we've been trying to do what we can mostly to to support the families. we've been writing messages and
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hope trying to tell them we're here for them, we're just as heartbroken as them that this happened. >> at the very same time, the government specifically, government officials, have faced criticism for being slow to respond, slow in the investigation and slow in giving out details of where things stand. do you agree? >> well, yes, i do to a certain extent. then, we've never been faced with a situation like this before. i think everyone is grasping what to do. there isn't a manuel on what to do when a 777 disappears. i think they're slowly getting their act together. i think they're understanding they are scrutinized by malaysians and the world over. they have to be faster and hopefully they'll get it. >> you have a unique perspective as the daughter of a former
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prime minister. you know government and the office, culture of the office better than most. do you think the prime minister is getting this right? >> well, i would hate to say. i think in something like this, you need someone in charge of everything telling people what to do and all that. right now i'm not sure, you know, whether that's happening or in a coordinated fashion. >> if one thing can be learned from this especially from the prime minister and government, what should that be? >> be fast, open, speak with one voice. >> not with the voice to malaysians and then a voice to the world? >> i think they're speaking the same voice. there's so many people at the beginning all saying different things and sometimes contradictory things. that's no good for anyone, least of all the search. >> great to meet you. thank you so much.
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all right. we're going to leave that in kuala lumpur. let's get back to new york where john has stories. breaking overnight, the japanese coast guard sailing for eight missing sailors after two cargo ships off the coast of japan. a vessel with a crew of 20 chinese sailors sank after the collision with a south korean ship. 12 of the crew men were rescued. nearly a dozen ships and a helicopter are taking part in the search and rescue operation. an alleged wanted to be terrorist is behind bars. nicholas was arrested near the canadian border. his destination, syria where he hoped to link up with an al qaeda group, hopefully wanting to play part in america's downfall. he face as up to 15 years in prison if convicted.
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recalled. this comes after gm is under the investigation for a decade long delay in addressing the ignition problem linked to at least 12 deaths. >> thank you very much. we're going to take a break on "new day." when we come back, we continue with news out of thailand they were tracking flight 370. we'll tell you the latest on that. how difficult is it to find a plane once it hits the water, let alone in the area the size of the continental u.s.? if this plane crashed into the ocean, we'll show you an expert on underwater searches what might be the tools to find it. vladimir putin setting the motion for sanctions and counter measures. we'll take a look at the potential fallout. i quit smoking. i've quit for 75 days. 15 days, but not in a row. for the first time, you can use nicorette... even if you slip up... so you can reach your goal. [ male announcer ] now, quit on your own terms
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welcome back. there's breaking news coming out of russia now. looking at vladimir putin speaking to the russian parliament about crimea's vote to join russia. there was a round of applause as representatives of crimea were mentioned here. he's insisting russia needs to defend the crimea people, that it has always been a part of russia, can't be divided. he said when crimea was taken from the soviet union and added to ukraine, it was robbed. the strongest language we've heard. intentions now clear. what should we expect to comp c peter? >> the real question is this the
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end or beginning? is this prelude to the destabilization of eastern ukraine in attempt to bring new the new government over the country even a russian military invasion over ukraine? i look to signs of that from this speech. >> why would he want ukraine? they need a lot of money. he has the warm water port. does that give us a chance of thinking there's not much in it for him other than rattling the cage? >> to a certain point it looks irrational. ukraine is a poor country. why would you want to control it? i think vladimir putin seeing his role as the great power. that is territories russia feels it has right to ownership. pushing back western power and
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expanding frontiers of power, this customs union, a russian version of the european union which puts russia at the center of a powerful block of countries, i think that's how he sees his legacy. >> not sense and probably more pronounced, have we heard somebody just thumb their nose at the idea of sanctions from the u.s. and europe. he seems not concerned at all. how much of that is bravado and how much is plane practicalities of what russia needs? >> these actions seem popular in russia. we don't know if that will continue. putin is basking in the current popularity and the nationalist wave engulfing russia. so far the sanctions we've put in place are not that severe. they target a few people. russia is difficult to isolate. it's not like iran where you get all great powers together.
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russia itself is a great power, huge national resources, a vast place. we have to do business with it to some degree in some areas. it's hard to isolate. >> on that point we have to do business with. you can extend it. we need russia. when you look at syria, how do you get assad to get rid of arms? russia needs to help us. how are the prospects for getting any cooperation on those two much more serious fronts than ukraine? >> syria looks much harder. if someone was going to pressure a assad, the syrian leader, it would be iran and russia. looks unlikely u.s. will get russia to do anything on syria. iran, perhaps you say if u.s. and iran come to terms on a diplomatic agreement we'll be able to do something regardless of what russia wants. the tragedy of all this, the syria ghastly situation now looks further from a solution. >> when you look at ukraine,
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there's a lot of muscle here in the u.s. saying put the thumb of oppression down owe p on showing putin who's boss. they're neglecting the smart thinking of what are you going to do in syria and iran if you keep isolating russia? you have no ally there. >> hopefully you stop putin from going further. >> thank you for your perspective. mick over to you. >> thanks. if malaysian flight 370 ended up in the ocean somewhere, how hard will it be to locate? we're taking a closer look at that. new photos
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welcome back to "new day." there's a lot of breaking news going on. let's get to john berman. >> we have breaking news on the search for the missing malaysian jet. thailand's air force says it picked up unknown radar signal the day the jet vanished. officials were tracking the flight when it days peered. minutes later the station saw an unknown aircraft not sending data. the search expanded the size of the continental united states. the u.s. will scale back the role in the search as other countries increase efforts as malaysia looks for more help. a new york times report this morning says the plane went off route after the orders were put in the cockpit computer. the malaysian officials say it
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have found the big bang theory smoking gun. i told them they should look there. the discovery is a huge deal. scientists wonder if the big bang theory would be supported. with hard evidence now they say they found it. >> this is an exciting discovery. thank you john. >> there's a lot going on in the world of politics. we have mr. john king inside politics. good to see you my friend. >> good morning michaela. i think berman should solve the world's mysteries. >> that's very true. >> see you in a minute. we'll start with the global challenge facing the president of the united states. that's how to react to the situation in russia ukraine. now the wall street journal and times. what are the options carol? the u.s. put out sanctions relatively modest. president putin essentially laughed off the sanctions and
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said we're not afraid of your sanctions. others going on twitter to mock the president for these sanctions. what's the next step for the white house? do they have a strategy they believe to be effective. >> that's the million question. it's hard to see the end game. the white house said they would set the stage to implement tougher sanctions on russia including the arms industry which would be significant. it's hard to see where this ends with putin a tit for tat. it's going to keep going in this way. behind the scenes they're hoping for some kind of way to give putin an off ramp. there's no signs that he's willing and eager to do that at this point. >> i think it's that willing and eager point that's important zeke. we ten to think of things by our
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system. he doesn't think like us. how much does that complicate? how does the president -- the you' european sanctions are weaker than the u.s. putin doesn't have a lot to be afraid of does he? >> it's harder for them. at the same time, a lot of holdings are in the russian economy, surrounding president putin, state controlled industries. the white house say they have capability. will they pull that out remains to be scene. the difficulty here is we've known for this a month and a half. it's clear what each stage in the game is. the white house knows. it's been the same off ramp. he hasn't taken it in the last
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month. >> it doesn't address what vladimir putin wants which is power. there's no incentive to take it off ramp when he's in the headlines of every major newspaper. his approval rating has gone up. they're not playing with the same kind of tools here. >> the president is taking hits from his critics. that is some ways predictable. remember mitt romney had a scornful exchange when he said vladimir putin was the big gop challenge. the president said the 80s called, wanted their foreign policy back. in the wall street journal, it said president barack obama and secretary of state clinton travelled the world in pursuit of their promise. their failure has been painfully evident. how much does she play in this? should she step back, one
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country. it seems obama care is still a liability. we're going to see chris christie with another town hall. he's going after the midwest to fund raise. he's going to juggle roles a day after. there's no question. his campaign manager was involved in the damage control after bridgegate and fort lee. is chris christie treading water now? >> that's a great way to put it. he's traeading water. he has not figured out a way to get above this. it hasn't completely sunk him. certainly it's not -- he's not even in the mix in the way he was before. >> it's the drip, drip of the e-mails, the way normal governing happens. we saw it last week with the hillary clinton documents and clinton library documents coming
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out. there are e-mail exchanges that happen internally. when they come out in the subpoena process, everybody looks bad. you hope you have 15 to 20 years to allow time to fade and not be a factor. in both -- interesting in both governor christie's case and clinton's case, e-mails are a factor in bids for the white house. >> thanks for getting up early with us this morning. we go back to new york, john, michaela and chris. if he doesn't have this behind him in august and november, the question is will they want to be standing next him? >> strong insight from the man in d.c. coming up next on "new day," one of the probable theories
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welcome back to "new day" as the search for the missing flight 370 continues to yield no results. one area of focus is whether that flight crashed into the indian ocean. if it did, how will it be found? the president of sub sea services, an ocean expedition corporation. one of his most notable accomplishments is the finding of the world war ii submarine found. thank you for being here. we want to talk about the search area. we found out this morning the area they're searching has vastly increased. thousand talking 2.24 million square nautical miles. does that give you ice in your belly a little? >> that's a lot of ocean. >> that's a lot of ocean. if we look at this, for folks at home to give you point of
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reference, continuous united states, roughly the same size. how do we begin to start searching for something like that? >> you need clues to find and narrow down the area. otherwise, you'll be looking for hundreds of thousands of years. >> going back to that submarine did you have a clue? >> we had historical data to narrow the search and use technology to search vaster areas. with technology today, a astoni autonomous underwater vehicle, it would take years. >> we know there's multiple nations involved, a vast search underway. let's talk about that. if we were to look for example -- here's manhattan that dot. if you were just to look at that area, in this small island or peninsula of manhattan, how long would that take?
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>> with one vehicle, i could map one and a half manhattans a day. that's 11-12 square nautical miles. do the math. >> right. >> if you have 2.24 million square miles, that's 1500 years. if you put ten vehicles on there, that's 150 years. there's only about -- i would say less than 30 vehicles capable of scanning the depth of the indian ocean. the average depth 13,000 feet. deepest 23,000 feet. the indian ocean is 6 million square miles. >> give us an idea of what that looks like in terms of searching using deep sonar equipment. what are you using? >> autonomous vehicle, most are shaped like a torpedo. they go down on their own and run patterns and bring the data back to you. it's old technology in a ship
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which is a much bigger operation. >> it takes a while for the ship to turn around and get going again. >> the cable is the task. the cable weighs so much. you can put multiple auv on one ship and cover more ground. even with that technology, 150 years if you had ten of them. >> if you had the technology you're talking about and using, how quickly does that data come up to you and analyze? >> you do not get the data unless you recover it. if we launched the vehicle and it went down to 60 hours. you bring it back up, download the data and review it almost instantaneously. maybe an hour. >> each country is assigned a certain grid. we're dividing it up. they each explore that grid.
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sort of a redundant say i imagine. that's going to speed up the process. >> yes, but you have to start some place and have higher probability places than others. just going out there and doing a hunt with no idea what you're looking at, your coloring in boxes. you want to try to get a likelihood or a higher likelihood area where it's at. more clues, discovery of something floating, even ten days, two weeks, a month later if you found it. plug it into the computer program. run millions of different scenarios and take higher probabilities, hits, locations, and narrow that down. >> malaysia requested further support on air and on service assets from multinations. hopefully they're going to get more of that support. thank you for lending expertise. we appreciate it. going to take a short break on "new day."
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welcome back to "new day" everyone. i'm joining you once again from kuala lumpur following the latest developments in the search for the flight 370. a report from the new york times this morning says the plane's change of course was preprogrammed into the flight computer. the plane's disappearance no doubt has much of the world concerned about the possibility of a hijacking. it has israelis particularly on edge. they fear the missing jetliner
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could be used as a weapon against them. israel is under a heightened state of alert taking extreme measures to keep the air space safe. nick robertson is in jerusalem with the story. >> kate, as a direct response to the missing flight, israel has put air traffic controllers on a higher state of alert the international airport, the center of air traffic control, they are effectively the country's first line of defense against a rogue civilian passenger y passenger jet. we understand they're going to closely, rigorously. they say procedures are not changing. they're going to look at detail and follow more closely. we're told this is an effort to identify aircraft when they are further from israel than has currently been the practice.
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what we understand is that aviation experts here have been meeting over a period of seven days, come up with a set of proposals and procedures to tighten the situation. these won't be made public for security reasons. this is in direct response to the disappearance of mh 370. back the to you kate. >> nick robertson, thank you so much. i'm sure many nations are doing the same thing, taking a closer look at policies and procedures. we're going to take another break. coming up next on "new day." more on the search for flight 370. new information that the plane's trajectory may have been changed by someone in the cockpit. we're going to dig into this and tell you what it means.
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spotting the plane. we'll tell you what it means for the search. live in malaysia, now the area is the size of the continental u.s. the flight's course was changed in the computer. we talked to a neighbor who knows the co-pilot. breaking this morning, vladimir putin telling his parliament crimea has always been a part of russi russia. he's also targeting u.s. senators with sanctions. good morning. welcome to "new day." i'm chris cuomo in new york. plenty of developments in the malaysian jet mystery. new radar data shows the plane. we have an expanded search area and kate bolduan most importantly in kuala lumpur with this morning's news.
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kate? >> thanks chris. we have a lot to get to in malaysia. just hearing a report from indonesia saying a group of fishermen said they saw a plane go down the day the jet vanished. we're working on details of that claim. anything to narrow the search area is something everyone wants to know now. we learn thailand's air force picked up a radar signal that day. minutes later, a radar saw an unknown aircraft not sending data. the search expands again for the jet. 2.24 million square nautical miles to be exact. that's about as big as the continental a united states. china is taking the lead in the
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search. the u.s. is scaling back its role as other countries help malaysia criticized continuously for response and information it's handing out. on top of that, more reporting from the new york times seems to confirm the hard turn the plane made toward the west was deliberate. here's a little more. >> new this morning, growing suspicion around flight 370's pilots. the new york times citing unnamed senior officials saying someone likely programmed the computer from the cockpit. this person possibly typing seven or eight key strokes in the system to divert the aircraft off course to beijing. >> someone in the plane that sits between the pilots, a new direction for the plane to go in. that's why the plane moved. it shows whoever did this had some expertise in flying. this was not someone on the plane who grabbed the controls
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and moved it. >> also this morning, china is ramping up its search within its own borders. chinese authorities say background checks on their passengers have come back clear, no links to terrorism or hijacking. meanwhile, malaysian authorities are underfire for a discrepancy in the missing aircraft's thyme line. monday, the ceo of the airline said the final words from the cockpit 1:19 a.m. "all right. good night" could have come before or after the plane communication shut off. the ceo saying it could have shut off between 1:07 a.m. and 1:37 a.m. when it was supposed to send out another message. this clarification comes a day after malaysian officials said the communication system was disabled before the co-pilot's final message prompting the investigation to shift towards the pilots. with australia hiding up the
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search in the sea, the hus is pulling out the uss kid and helicopterers. with more on this morning's developments and much needed context, jim joining us again. what is your take on this new information coming from thailand officials. air force saying they tracked an unknown plane i guess on their -- >> it's a real ufo. >> i didn't want top say it. i guess it is. they detected it on the day of the disappearance of the plane. does this get us anywhere closer? >> it confirms what we have from malaysian radar. the malaysians tracked the plane, so did thailand now. you have two radar records that show the plane clearly exiting the south china sea, crossing the peninsula and going up the
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straight. it's confirmation saying we're pretty sure this is the plane and we've tracked the right thing. it doesn't take us anywhere rçe. >> it means they looked at their records. >> we can take. that what do you make of the fact the search area is expanding wunexpand ing once again the size of the c continental u.s. are they getting more resources? >> you see naval ships. that's way too slow. we're in day 11. >> there's no time. >> they've got a french team now, one that helped with the french line their disappeared off the coast of brazil to paris. they're telling them, you don't have much time. we found our debris field in four days. to get those flight data reco recorder, you'll need to hustle. putting the ships a side, it
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would take too long. all these countries say we're going to give you surveillance. that's needed. >> a reminder yet again, 11th day into this. what will they find on the surface? many experts say any big piece of the plane would no longer be floating on the surface. chris, over to you. >> let's bring in aviation analyst and former dot inspector general mary and from iowa, form pilot, david funk. it's nice to have david and john here with us as well. it's great to have a lot of great minds on this because we need it. let's start with what we absolutely know. u.s. assets. they moved the u.s.s away.
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they've been asked to help finding the black box. what does this mean other than the obvious? that the malaysians believe the best chance the plane hit the water in that area? ? the process of elimination, there's discussion the plane, especially if altitude numbers are right -- we don't think they're completely accurate. they were flying low up and down. they didn't have the fuel to go over the him lay yans and take the northern route. >> they say we were tracking a flight, think it was 370 because of the direction it was going and wasn't transmitting data. how helpful is this in limiting the search area? >> very helpful. radar has a definition, a range, that you can clearly see things. this was primary return. that's well known how far the signal will travel. that's going to be very limiting
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on the northern side how far the airplane went. >> that's good to have. that takes us to the other siting. there's now fishermen. how much do we invest in this type of thing? >> eyewitnesses not the most reliable source of information, but this will not be discounted. this needs to be looked at and followed up. >> if it hit the water, it's plausible somebody saw it right? >> that's right. if fishermen saw it, they can look there. there would be debris. if there's debris, obviously they found it. it's easy to rule out. >> the idea of this new report from the new york times that says there was a new coordinate put in. we don't know when. we know the acars picked up something was put in. we know it was still working. we believe the pilot did it. why? >> there's a number of reasons.
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let's not jump to conclusions. if he was flying the auto pilot instead of flying the airplane, he would punch in coordinates. auto pilot gives a better ride, more efficient. companies encourage pilots to do this. he may fly the auto pilot back by punching in coordinates rather than grabbing the wheel and turning around. >> with the idea of the picture behind you of what the system looks like to punch in new coordinates. for people at home. let's play in terms of testing this information. if acars was operative, does that dchange that information?
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>> you reach up hit the auto pilot, spin it left to make a left turn. that's what happened. i'm not sure there's any way in the 777. there isn't in any other boeing airplane to determine real time when it happened or what the key strokes were without having the actual airplane. there's no way to do that. we don't have the bandwidth available around the world to continually transmit that information to an airplane system operation center. for the new york times to make that statement or u.s. official, i think you're reaching. i'm sure john is nodding in agreement now. if the captain needed to turn because he suspected he had a problem, he's going to reach up and turn that. he's going to find a way to put the plane on the ground. >> why would he do this? who does it and why? >> captains do it routinely. that's the easy way to do it.
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as the previous guest just said, if you do it that way as opposed to keying in data, you can't say, based on what we know from the data from the plane you can't say they stopped and keyed it in as opposed to turning it. it might have been entered in the system earlier. we can say it was intentional the plane was turned. we can't say exactly how it was aimed to this waypoint or even aimed at this waypoint only absolutely it was turned. that appears to be intentionally. >> a frequently asked question. we'll start with you john. who has the know how to disable the acars system in the proper way of going beneath the belly of the plane assuming it wasn't done by a massive catastrophe that happened in the plane? do pilots do that routinely and know how to do it? >> 99% of the pilots would not know how to do that. >> what person would? what type of sophistication?
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>> it doesn't take sophisticati sophistication. just knowledge. >> but you have to be trained? >> that's right. >> if the acars system -- i say if because as a reporter i haven't seen the proof it was dismantled adds opposed by dismantled by something else. who does that? what do you need to be to do that? >> we don't typically train pilots to shut systems off that nature. you're adding to the training footprint that a pilot would never use in daily line operations. company test pilot maybe, a guy that picks up from boeing would know how to do that. not your typical pilot. more importantly, if the acars failed and transponder failed and they were not manually shut off, what caused them to fail? either electrical problem which i talked about previously with the folks at cnn or there was a fire in the cockpit. with the location of the acars,
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communication radio, control heads, and transponder on that center panel right below throttles, if there was an electrical fire or problem in that area, we would lose that information from the airplane. doesn't mean they manually shut the switches off. it means what we know for sure the time line and time things quit talking to everybody. we'll never know for sure what happened. >> at this point, you believe it's just as likely there was a mass event on this plane that had nothing to do with human intervention? >> absolutely. i don't see anything here that tells me -- i'm a security guy by training. i've been doing this 25 years. i typically say this has got to be a terrorist event. everything here i'm seeing is typical of other electrical fire problems. the sequence of events we're seeing we've seen happen before
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on transport category aircraft. >> mary, i know you agree. >> i agree. >> john, you are still going the other way? >> i'm an investigator. everything is on the table. >> you move off the facts and crumbs aren't there to take you in one direction? >> yes. >> at least this government information is good. it helps get the search area down. it seems clear at least the malaysian government believes the plane hit the water. they're asking for urgency finding the black box. we'll stay on this as news is warranted. there's other developments. breaking overnight, a search and rescue operation off the coast of japan. eight chinese sailors are missing. they were on the cargo ship that collided with the south korean vessel that sank. 12 members were rescued. a dozen ships and coast guard helicopter are helping with the search. a california man arrested near the border of canada is an
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play here. >> i want to explain and reiterate, this is not the flight path. this is the a proximate location. at 8:11 in the morning there was a hand shake. this is based off that last satellite interaction with the plane. let's go back to why we have that. why are we talking about these two? in order to find gps you have three satellites. look for inner section of the loops. that's how you know where something is. we only had one satellite. now you have this big circle. why are we searching the entire circle? unfortunately there was not enough fuel. we can mark off half that mark. we know it's within this vicinity. keep in mind, with one satellite, the resolution is also weak. along this line along for 8:11 talking a 100 mile width anywhere along this time. the plane could have been here, here, here, here. that's the concern again.
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now let's talk about the terrain. why is that difficult? to the north, you're talking 100 peaks 20,000 feet high. to the south, you have the ocean. there's a lot of factors to consider as well. one being ocean depth. off the gulf of land, you have the depth there. as you extend, depths as far as 4.5 miles. java trench 6 miles. you have ocean trenches that play into this. that 8:11 time. you have to factor in conditions that a happen in the ocean where debris could flow forward in time. of course weather also another factor. to the north, the system is moving out of the area. there's nothing to be concerned with to the north as they search the region further south. you can easily see it's not just the swath they're looking at but all that plays in that as well. >> needle in the haystack then
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we have breaking news. vladimir putin has signed a treaty officially making ukraine's crimea region part of russia. the russian president told his parliament crimea it's always been a part of russia and the two cannot be separated any longer. defying sanctions in place by the united states and europe, he's reportedly making sanctions of his own targeting our u.s. senators. joining me is chief correspondent. good to have you with us. i'm curious. you've been listening to comments from the president of russia. what's your take on what we're hearing? that russia was robbed of crimea when it went to ukraine? what do you make of it? >> i'm surprised this is his first address since the referendum and a few days over that when there was a crisis of whether it would take place or not. he's played the part. this is the world according to
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vladimir putin. he has said again, crimea has always been part of russia and that russia was robbed of it after the fall of soviet union. he kept draw analogies of what he had done. he talked about united states, the fall of the war and germany. he talked about cos ovo. he did also say to ukraine and the international community, we don't want to divide ukraine. perhaps people take that as a pledge, promise, not to invade or do military intervention inside ukraine proper. beyond that, it's hard to see where this is going. if signing ceremony was to officially recognize the independence of ukraine, rather crimea. he said that he was very pleased
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to announce to the parliamentarians in his words the city of crimea and sevastopol had agreed to join. certainly here in london, europe and presumably united states, more sanctions are prepared. michaela? >> let's talk about sanctions. putin is expected to announce sanctions of his own widely expected they'll mirror the list the white house released yesterday. here's our question to you. these sanctions have any teeth? >> look, it's hard to say what he's going to do. we don't have confirmation now. there could be tit for tat sanctions. it could be on officials. it's hard to know where this is going. for instance, i spoke to a leading german official yesterday. angela merkel, the german chancellor is taking the lead on efforts to try to get putin to
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come back to diplomatic negotiations. he said we're going to face oil prices going up, but that's a price we're prepared to take. he also said look, most the balance of trade is in our favor. in other words, we depend much less on russian ex for tports t russia depends on european exports. a nato secretary general told me yesterday they were worried about possible moves into ukraine proper. worried about russian military exercises on the border. vice president biden is in that part of the world in poland and baltic states meeting to try and assure those nervous members of nato of the united states full support. michaela? >> one of the things that makes one wonder, given the situation in syria and iran, the u.s. certainly needs russian cooperation.
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given this you mention the tit for tat going on. how do we get past this and make sure regions are working towards progress and stability there? >> well, michaela, some says that overstated and overblown now. yes, russia has been part of the general international negotiations on syria and on iran. as you know, russia has play aid role that is not at all in the mode that the west would like on syria. many have said it played a destabilizes role at the best. there's litterally no progress whatsoever on political matters regarding syria. russia has not solved this diplomatically. on iran, the truth of the matter the negotiating is between the u.s. and iran and amongst key eu members there. if russia has a lot to lose if
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iran becomes a member of the international community if iran sign this is deal and keeps to that. if iranian gas and oil starts to get sold on the international market, that would pose a threat to russia's natural oil and gas sales. if anything, russia has played the part up until now but not necessarily the diplomatic negotiations with iran. >> yesterday you said this was like watching the not of a bad movie develop very slowly. here's another scene for us. thank you so much for joining us. we appreciate it. >> thank you michaela. >> chris? coming up on "new day," a co-pilot's neighbor speaks to kate in the exclusive. he tells us about the conversation he had with the pilot's family after their loved one went missing. new information about flight
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welcome back everyone. time now for the five things you need to know for your new day. radar in thailand may have picked up malaysia 370 off it went off route. the search expands now to 2.24 million square nautical miles. >> earlier putin told parliament crimea has always been a part of russia and cannot be divided. he says there's no plan to divide the rest of the ukraine. >> oscar pistorius defense tries to paint the scene of a crime scene. defense focuses on photos that shows the blade runner's gun was tampered with or moved around a. >> admitted 9/11 mohammed's son
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will testify at the trial of owe sosama bin laden. >> among veterans, melvin morris who served in vietnam, one of three servicemen still a live. we're always updating the five things you need to know. go to cnn.com for the latest. now back to kate bolduan in malaysia. >> john thanks so much. as we continue to follow breaking developments this morning in the search for malaysia flight 370, much of the focus has been on the pilots and of course what happened in the cockpit. i was able to track down the next door neighbor of the co-pilot fariq ab hamid. he said he would often see the family but they have not been at the house since saturday when police searched the home. like others, he was hesitant to
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speak to media and us. he did not want his identity revealed. take a listen at this exclusive. t family of flight 370 co-pilot fariq ab hamid had their home flooded saturday. the last words from the cockpit, "all right. good night" is still a mystery. he's seen here weeks before the malaysia airlines flight went missing. >> how do you know the family? >> i know about this family around five years i think. around five years. >> along the streets, a suburb of kuala lumpur, the neighbor, the taxi driver, says he doesn't believe the co-pilot would play a role in the flight's disappearance. >> he's a pilot. this is a respected career in malaysia, he said.
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it's an honor to have a neighbor like this. he describes the co-pilot as ambitious and loves sports cars. after he became a pilot he bought a gti and bmw. he's a big fan of cars. i don't think he'd do something crazy. he said he viewed the father as quote, someone important. he can't forget the recent information he had with his neighbor when he said simply my son is lost. >> when the father talked to you, how did he seem, how did he act? >> he was clearly worried but he was as a muslim, calm and easy to accept it. his father asked me to pray for his son to be found, for the plane to be found. i assured him the his son will be fine and they'll find the plane. the media intrusion impacting the surrounding community. the next door neighbor says the constant attention has forced
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his wife and two children to leave. and when i asked the co-pilot's next door neighbor how he thought the malaysian government has been handling the crisis, he told me simply he does believe the government is inexperienced and acknowledges they've been slow to respond. he said this is an unprecedented crisis they are dealing with. it's important we have not heard much about the co-pilot. from this neighbor, learning more about the man that's the focus of this investigation and continues to be. coming up, a new report suggests flight 370 was intentionally programmed to turn off course by someone in the cockpit. we'll look at a simulator at how that could have possibly been done and who could have done it. ♪
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good to have you back with us on "new day." we're following developments and details this morning. a new york times report says the decision to divert the plane off its route came from the cockpit computer. that change would have had to be made manuelly. joining us from a 777 cockpit simulator in canada, martin savage and the pilot. good to have you with us. give us what we know from this new york times report how it's changed our focus of what went on inside the cockpit. >> sure. mitchell and i were talking about this scenario yesterday. we're focused on this flight
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manager. think of it as the brain of the plane. does a lot to help the pilot fly and aircraft. it navigates. you locate like your gps on your car. set where you wanted to go, put in waypoints where you want to go. in this case, kuala lumpur to beijing. it's easy to reprogram. >> absolutely. we have our flight plan in here. you can see it's on a magenta line. we pick a waypoint we would of course. i'm going to do that now. couple of key strokes, no big deal. i punch it in scratch pad here, put it in the computer, execute it. now the airplane is going to be programmed to go onto a different route. that's all it take as.
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>> it's a significant change of course. one of the things we should point out is that the aircraft does it subtly. this isn't a violent motion passengers would know. the aircraft is beginning to make the turn and will go very strongly off the original course. on a whole new route done by a couple of key strokes. >> with the key stroke, is there any communication sent back to a home computer? would there be an alert that the course deviated? >> you know what, the key strokes themselves not so much. it's more the position on radar that's going to change. the controllers who are cognizant of this air space paying attention to this, they're going to notice the transponder on or off is moving in a different direction than their flight plan. >> putting in the strokes didn't
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set the alarm off. it should be noticed. >> does it take a fair amount of skill, or is it something you could teach martin fairly quickly? >> martin is a smart guy. it's made to be easy to use because we don't want to focus on this during the flight too much. we want to be head's up. it takes knowledge. you have to know what to do. the actual physical component is very simple. >> in essence, mitchell could tell me what to do, but unless i had practiced it somewhere else off this airplane to come in and sit down and figure out, a civilian couldn't do it on their own. >> all right mitchell and martin, thanks for taking us inside the simulator once again. so interesting. chris? >> thank you very much. coming up on "new day," we have the interview with the pilot who flew a missing
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trying to figure out how the plane got there. we are joined now with more of this interview. a fascinating conversation. one everyone wants to hear. i want to know what the significance of what he said. what did he tell you? >> the significance is we've actually never talked to somebody that has intimate knowledge of this particular plane. he's flown the 777, actual missing plane. he does not believe it was catastrophic mechanical failure. he doesn't believe it was the pilot. he's known this man for years. >> i flew this plane. many times. >> what do you think happened being someone that's actually been behind the controls? >> very, very strange. the lack of communication is the one that's really, really puzzling. the way they did not communicate if there was emergency. i think from the second or third
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day i come to my own private conclusion there was unlawful human interference. it could have been anyone on the airplane. >> if you're convinced it's not the pilot, does your attention turn to the co-pilot? >> like i say, unlawful human interference. we start going down. >> while going down the list, what he's talking about, going down the passenger list, going down the crew list that everybody has to be looked at individually. that's what he's talking about. >> he said two things that are fascinating. he thinks what evidence we have now, this was not cat front asc had human intervention involved. he also said it's not the pilot. what are the protocols they have in place? you wonder how did someone get in? >> protocols are standard for malaysian airlines. that's what this pilot said.
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he retired couple of years ago. he says it has not changed. the way they changed is that the doors are thicker. you have to ring to get into the cockpit. there's a go pro security camera at the top of the door. there's a key pad entry. not anyone can come in. >> sounds like it's tough to force your way in. >> it's very tough. it is possible. nothing is impossible if you're determined. it's possible he believes if someone did rush into the cockpit, it certainly was probably a determined set of people. he also believes if they did, something must have happened inside the cockpit because you only need a few seconds to send a disstress signal. >> he said something along the lines the fact there's little communication coming from the cockpit is troubling. >> very you believe thering.
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four to five seconds in order to send out a voice or signal you can touch with your fingers in the cockpit. nothing. that's so troubling. >> from the man that knows this plane better than anyone, he seems to be perplexed by this missing plane as everyone else. fascinating interview. thank you for bringing that us. she just did the interview and ran over to get it to us. you can watch more of her interview tonight on erin burnett. chris, back to you. >> we have breaking news out of moscow. that's where we have breaking news about russian president putin. he just signed a treaty. the treaty makes ukraine's crimea region a part of russia. it says as of today 's signing, crimea and sevastopol are now officially part of the russian federation. let's bring in cnn fred live from moscow. fred, the obvious question is,
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ukraine's constitution makes it a sovereign, makes crimea part of it. can russia do this unilaterally? i guess they just did it. >> they certainly just did it. they said they're not backing down. the signing ceremony took place about 30 minutes ago. on the kremlin's website, it says as of that signing in their mind, the crimea peninsula is part of the russian federation. it says the ratification process it has to go through, by the government, parliament and also still a constitutional issue. the constitution has to be changed. the constitution says how many states russia has. of course now that will be amended. farce the kremlin is concerned with the signing of this document, the crimea peninsula is part of russia. that also means, also stated in the document, everybody who's a
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residents in the crimea peninsula will become a resident of the russian area. there's a time people can leave. what do you do with troops on the ground? cri ukraine neither the united states or you're european union recognizes this. this is clearly going to cause a big international stir, chris. >> at the top of the food chain, u.n. said this vote was illegitimate. you raise the issue, what happens with the ukraine troops in the region now? what will russia do? we'll keep an eye on it. thank you for being there. we'll take a break and come back to sort through the developments of the missing flight. what's the fishermen's story? does it make sense?
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>> cheer him on. >> let's hear it for edward the horse. >> we didn't talk about edward. that's a lot of effort on edward's part. >> you got the horse thing. she always wants to consider that angle. >> you win. that's all for us. kate is back in kuala lumpur tomorrow. now time for "newsroom" with carol costello. >> good morning. have a great day. "newsroom" starts now. happening now in the "newsroom," breaking overnight, the search expands again. 25 countries now looking at an area the size of the lower 48. >> we're here at the military air base at the airport. this is the center of the international search and rescue operation. >> also developing this
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