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monday. could the disappearance of british toddler madeline mccann finally be linked to sexual assault of other girls? it may be. mccann vanished nearly seven years ago in portugal on vacation with her family. police are now looking for a man accused of attacking other children in portugal. >> susan, thanks very much. that does it for us. we'll see you at 11:00 p.m. eastern for another edition of 360. "piers morgan live" starts now. this is "piers morgan live." i am bill weir filling in again tonight. after staring at maps of the indian ocean, pictures of black boxes for almost two weeks now, we now have what may be the most emotionally devastating ummage related to missing flight 370. this i passenger 162. his name is mohan wang and he is two years old. i say is rather than was. of course with the hope that mohan and his parents and grandparents are still alive, somehow somewhere. of course, that would defy all
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logical odds, but when you look at this adorable little guy, you can't help but hope. and you can't help but understand this mother's anguish. she is also missing a son. and her frustration in this endless empty search exploded into emotion today. we got this photo from a close friend of mohan's parents who through social media just discovered yesterday that the people she loves are on that flight. imagine watching this whole mystery with the luxury of emotional distance and suddenly being sucked in like that. she will join us in just a moment. we'll also try to understand how and why the key search area shrunk from the size of the continental u.s. to an area the size of arizona just since last we spoke, and what fbi computer specialists might be able to find on the pilot's home flight simulator after it was discovered that the captain deleted some files from that simulator's hard drive sometime last month. our big story begins in malaysia where kyung lah is in
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kuala lumpur and spoke to one very upset family member at that raucous press conference earlier today. >> kyung lah joins us live now from kuala lumpur. just it's even with the cultural and language barrier, it's heart-rending to watch that day after day. what exactly are malaysian airline officials saying at these things? are they even apologizing for the lack of information? what goes on in these things? >> reporter: well, there was a brief mention of what happened
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with these mothers at yesterday's daily press conference. we do want to mention that these conferences happen every single day, bill. and these women knew exactly where to go because the time is always set. it's always the same. and they came to a place where they knew there would be hundreds of cameras. and they wanted that message out. please help me find my son. but also to say that they felt that the government was not telling them the truth, that they were holding something back. and what the government did is say that they're trying to be as transparent as possible, addressing it in that briefing. they did say that the best way to help these mothers is to find their children. >> kyung lah, once again thanks for your reporting there. let's turn to jim sciutto, cnn's security correspondent in washington. jim, talk to me about this search area. what happened between tonight and the last time we spoke 24 hours ago that that thing shrunk? that's good news, i suppose, but why. >> reporter: it is. i think you can say this is the most significant development of
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the day. it shrunk for a couple of reasons. u.s. and australian authorities working in this huge international coalition you have right now have calculated based on the track of the plane that it was on at last radar contact, how much fuel it had in its tanks and therefore how long it would be expected to fly before it ran out of fuel, plus those last radar -- satellite rather contacts that it had bring it down not just anywhere along that band there, that sort of southern arc, but right to the very end of where it would have ended up when it ran out of fuel. that's allowed them to shrink it down from 3 million square miles that we were talking about yesterday to about 230 square miles as you said, difference between the continental united states and the state of arizona. and they're also calculating drift. because you have currents there that assuming the plane hit the water that would have moved the wreckage a little bit south and east down that coast of australia. so that's where they're looking now. they've got a fair amount of confidence there. the u.s. officials i talked to,
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they don't know anything for sure. it's still possible the plane could have gone north or stopped somewhere else. but in terms of what they're focusing on i can tell you, bill, that's what they're focusing on now. what official say to my quietly what they think happened to this plane, they say it's far more likely it's in the water there than somewhere else. >> maybe making a calculated guess if there's enough sort of radar systems up in southeast asia that if it had gone north the world would know. let's talk about the flight simulator, the much discussed home flight simulator of the captain. is the actual hard drive at quantico, at fbi headquarters? >> a mirror of the hard drive is. what the malaysians have done is shared a mirror of it. not only with the americans but with some other countries as well. so they're looking at it right now. and i'm told that even the things that would have been deleetd -- i think we all have this impression when we delete something it disappears forever. of course it doesn't. what they're doing now is piecing those files back together. it depends on how much these files were deleted.
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because we even know this when deleting e-mails. you can put them into a deleted file and permanently delete them. there are a few different levels. fit has been more severely deleted it's kind of like working a puzzle i'm told. that the experts in quantico take those pieces, put them together. it may not look like on the flight simulator but these are the best guys on the job. they're often searching computers where people have tried to hide stuff, whether pornography or ties to extremist groups. this is the team you want working on a job like this. >> do they just have the flight similarity or the personal computers of the captain and copilot? >> both hard drives of personal computer but special interest on that flight simulator because if there's something on there that indicated he practiced for a flight like this, that's what they would be seeking to find. >> that's all they've asked help for from the u.s. are those computers? the fbi is probably willing to go over there. this is all they need right now? >> exactly.
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they have not asked for the fbi to go there. they have asked for other help including searching that search area. 26 countries, 50 ships, 60 airplanes. the u.s.'s most powerful sub-hunting airplane the p 8 which is designed to find pair per periscopes on the water now looking for wreckage on the water. >> you'd think maybe they'd want the best cops in the world, the best detectives of the fbi. >> >> reporter: no question. you've got people around the world particularly in this country raising their hands saying hey let us help you interpret the radar data, satellite data and so on. it's taken some time to get those requests out. >> and president obama, i understand, finally addressed this search. >> reporter: he did. president obama, he made it clear -- and if you'd like we can play the clip of it. but he just made it clear that the u.s. is providing all the help that it can. i think probably hinting a little bit it would offer more if asked. >> we have put every resource we have available at the disposal
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of the search process. there's been close cooperation with the malaysian government. and so not just ntsb but fbi. anybody who typically deals with anything related to our aviation system is available. and so our thoughts and prayers are with the families. but i want them to be assured that we consider this a top priority and we're going to keep on working. >> one more thing we didn't mention, you reference it a bit, bill, satellites as well. the u.s. is using some of its satellites. it's not moving military satellites. but we are told they're using what those satellites have seen particularly on that northern corridor. as you said, because there's so much radar coverage up there in the north and so many satellites, and the fact that they haven't picked up the plane is another reason why they're looking south more than north now. >> jim sciutto, another day, a few more crumbs. but we appreciate it. we'll take everything we can get. thank you, sir. let's get more now on these
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topics. joining me peter bergen, national security analyst. and also founder and ceo of the malaysian -- and professor of drone research at mit at duke university. thank you all for being here. peter, let me ask a question i didn't get to with jim. this world that we got, actually cnn confirmed from a source within the law enforcement agencies in the united states that the plane's navigation system was adjusted. like a new path, a new flight path was programmed around 12 minutes before that final verbal "all right good night." first of all, do you buy that bit of reporting? do you trust that? and second, what does that tell you if anything? >> well, let's presume it's accurate for the moment. the story has changed but this seems like a confirmed piece of information. i think that you're left with probably three or four scenarios, one of which is hijacking for a political
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purpose, which i think is quite unlikely for a whole set of reasons. two, the possibility of pilot suicide which is very rare but not unheard of. three, some kind of piracy for economic reasons, which isn't completely unimplausible. or some kind of idiosyncratic motive we haven't often seen in the past but does crop up. there was a turkish airlines flight hijacked by somebody trying to avoid military service for instance and he had a very bizarre plan to talk to the pope about his desire to get out of military service. he hijacked the plane to italy. so you can hijack a plane without a political purpose in mind. it can be something idiosyncratic. but clearly, there seems to be little debate anymore that this was diverted by intentionally by someone. >> right. faria, you were in the investigation. this is really interesting. not only twa 800 but the egyptair crash which was pilot
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suicide. how did you determine that, and what was your reaction when you came to that conclusion? >> well, as an investigator, aircraft issues and terrorism issues are something that i've always looked into. but with the twa 800, for quite a long period we looked at it as a terrorism. but then it came about thought was clearly just an accident and a crash. the egyptair, it was a pilot suicide. but to this day the pilot's family will not concede that it was pilot suicide. but that was from the recording from the pilot's recordings that were going back and forth. we were able to figure out that this was -- some statements that he was making indicated that he was looking to end his life. plus looking into some of the other conversations in the cockpit that there were differences about whether to try to save the plane or take it down. so that led us to believe thought was clearly pilot suicide. >> if only we had that information. is that kind of information
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would show up on a black box if it's ever found, that kind of conversation would determine such a thing? >> yes. i think between what you find out between the two different pieces of equipment, what the pilots and what conversations being had in the cockpit, but you can also find out what's going on with the mechanics of the flight as it's flying. >> missy cummings, what kind of jets did you fly in the navy? >> i flew a 4s and f 18s. >> wow. so thinking about this theory, it seems like they've sort of eliminated if they're looking in the south. but this theory the plane might have gone north and gone very low to dodge radar. possible given your experience? >> well, i think it's possible except that once you do the fuel computation, planes burn a lot more fuel when they go down low. so it reduces their range even further. so while it may have been possible, if they did that, they most certainly would have run out of fuel before they got too far. >> certainly wouldn't be able to
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get over the himalayas if they were going that far north. i want to touch on your drone expertise there. i was looking at some mock ups the navy has a super drone in the works that can take incredibly imagery and just stay up forever. do you think, do you hope that they're being used in this search now? >> well, the government hasn't said for sure. i would be surprised if they weren't being used in some way, shape or form. but they also -- the mission is not different really between manned and unmanned aircraft. for example, the u 2 is our spy plane. we have a squadron over in korea right now. i'm sure they're using that in some kind of capacity to get some imagery. but the drones can provide you much longer surveillance times than you have with the pilot. you certainly don't have to worry about the pilot and their physiologic needs. so while the navy's is not up and running yet, the air force certainly has some that could. it's not clear whether australia may or may not be using drones
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in this capacity as well. >> for those wondering, we checked. barbara starr at the pentagon asked about sub marines. apparently you have to plan those missions way in advance. so that doesn't sound like that's the case. one more question before i let you go, peter. what do you make of the fbi now finally getting a crack at the pilot and copilot's computers? do you think they might be able to find something that the malaysians couldn't? >> well, it goes with the question of motive. i not only from the egyptair case the messages from the cockpit useful. the fact this pilot was about to be hired and there was a whole investigation into the circumstances. he had a real motive. we have no motive in the case of the pilot or copilot. but perhaps a look at the computers might produce one if there is one. >> peter, missy, faria, much obliged for your time and thoughts tonight. thank you. when we come parks back, the very human face of this mystery. one thing to look at this
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to your point "c". capella university. start your journey at capella.edu. joining me now a couple of friends of this couple, this beautiful family. salil lamay is a classmate.
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and wena shi here in new york. thank you both for coming in such a difficult time. wen a wena, we reached out to facebook folks on the manifest. as a result of that trying to touch base and personalize the story you learned of this last night. >> through gloria. >> you have been i guess watching the story just like the rest of the world. >> heard the story. since then it happened just a story. but now very much close and personal. >> tell me before i get to the reaction there, tell me about your friends here. i've got their photographs. this picture absolutely is just -- he is a bundle of molten cuteness this little guy. >> i know, the little baby. >> he is so adorable. but this is your friend vivia. you met at college. how did you meet? did you hit it off right away? >> i went to school with rory. we met at a dinner party. both of them came in and i
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immediately connected with vivia vf. she's so caring and sweet we just immediately connected and became pretty good friend. >> you'd go shopping and do things together. >> we'd just talk so often, hang out a lot. obviously shopping as well. also we kept in touch after rory's graduation. we talked on the phone, international calls, wrote e-mails. the last time we talked was actually through e-mail before the new year wishing each other happy new year. >> right. >> i didn't know it was going to be the last time. >> do you hope that it's not the last time? >> i wish i could see them again. >> had you decided -- everybody has a theory as to what happened to this flight. had you decided along with the world that you thought it had gone down? or did you hope that it had been taken? >> i like to keep hoping. i mean, if there's still a chance that people out there who is watching this show can help
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finding this plane or find out what happens, i'm sure it will mean a lot to the families and obviously to me as well. >> tell me about rory. i have a picture of him as well. you guys were buddies in the same mba program, yeah? >> yeah. we were together for one year in the mba program. then he went back to china. and then since then we have been in touch mainly through e-mails. so in fact i got an e-mail and so did the rest of my class from rory a week ago before this thing happened. and in that e-mail he wrote that he was going to head to malaysia to enjoy a week with his family before he was going to go back to a project in beijing. >> and i understand he wrote that he wanted to get out of the smog of beijing and relax with his beautiful wife and child and her parents. >> yeah. rui loved to travel. and he was also an aftervid
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photographer. he used to write about his travel experiences in his e-mails and also the latest cameras he was looking into. and the pictures he would send in the e-mails were just fantastic pictures. >> and what went through your mind, saleel, when you realized your friend was on flight 370? >> it's been initially it was the first couple of days it was about hey, we will find something about the plane. and looking at all the possible theories that have come out. for the last few days for me it's been mainly hope and prayer for me as well as everyone else in this community in the u.s. as well as throughout the world. >> wana, you mentioned as we were chatting before about sweet little exchanges between vivia and rui that proved they were perfect for each other. once i was in their apartment and i saw her leaving a little note for her husband, and
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obviously she's a great wife. very supportive of her husband. the note says something like, honey, i'm going out to run some chores. i'll be right back. food is in the fridge. i mean, how sweet is that. >> and how did they feel about being in america? what was it like? they were both from beijing? >> i think vivia is from beijing and rue fri from a small town. but rui was very hard-working, very smart, and he got into the top schools and also kellogg. a one-year mba. very impressive guy. very very hard-working. >> you saw them a couple summers ago, right, was the last time you actually got together? they had moved back to asia? >> that's right. >> did you ever get to meet the little guy, moheng? >> not yet. but i saw the pictures which is so wonderful. >> you're a new mother. >> i have a little one as well. >> boy or girl? >> boy.
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>> i bet you hugged him a little tighter last night after getting this news. >> you bet, yeah. and this morning sending them to daycare was very challenging. >> how will you go forward? how will you steel yourself emotionally to get through this? >> just hang tight and pray for them, keep hoping that someone will find them. and also treasure the peep that are near you, your loved ones. and make every day count. >> it's so amazing that you're willing to sit and discuss your friend. but i guess this constant speculation that this story has become, there's some solace in thinking the more the story stays alive the more it spurs this search. we all have to hang onto hope. that's it, right? >> exactly. >> thank you for being here. >> thank you, bill. >> and saleel, thanks for taking the time. sharing thoughts of your friend as well. stay strong. >> thank you. when we come back, imagine
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that. imagine what it must be like not just for folks like wena, the friends but the families. we're going to talk to a lawyer who has some experience in this area who's tried to help families past and also a woman in this country who has helped change laws to empower those who are in this position. stay with us.
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[ speaking foreign language ] >> as the world watches and guesses, the loved ones of the folks on flight 370, they are twisting in the wind of uncertainty. sadly the longer this goes on the more it seems like families won't get answers for a very long time. it took two years to find the wreckage of air france flight 447 on the ocean floor in the south atlantic, even though debris was found five days after that plane went missing. joining me now, aviation trial attorney michael verna won a $23 million settlement for the victims of flight 447. also joining us our cnn friend mary schiavo, former inspector general of the d.o.t., now represents victims of negligence by transportation companies,
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including airlines. michael, let me ask you, do these families have any recourse legally if they get frustrated enough by the malaysian investigation, there's no international court, there's no way to change jurisdiction to force changes in who leads this investigation? >> well, no. under international treaties that apply to this accident, both the ko annex 13 investigations as well as the montreal convention, jurisdiction is reposed in either malaysia or china or the place of domicile of the passengers. so they do have legal recourse through that process. but to compel the malaysian government to do more than what it's been doing, it requires actions in malaysia. i will say that in the united states we have something called the family assistance act that was passed about 20 years ago. that has been applied most recently to result in a fine of $500,000 against asiana airlines
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because they didn't treat the passengers properly in accordance with that act in the united states. >> what does that mean? >> the crash that occurred in san francisco. >> that was the one where he missed the runway in the bay area. what does that mean? what didn't they do that cost them half a million bucks? >> well, in the united states -- now of course this law would not apply to malaysia airlines in malaysia. but in the united states since i believe it was 1996 there's federal law that requires airlines to have contingency plans in the case of a disaster like this. and to provide lodging, food, transportation, counselling, et cetera, to the passengers. so the passengers have some sense of what is going on. or in the case of accidents involving death, the families have some sense of what's going on, and they are comforted as best the airline can. that did not happen to the degree it's supposed to happen in the asiana case, as a result the department of transportation fined them. so if this accident involving
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malaysia airlines had occurred in the united states, they'd have to comply complwith that a >> mary, both of you have seen what this does to human beings who are watching and waiting. mary, you represented families in 9/11. those planes, they knew right away what had happened. i know you're not a psychologist, but what do you think these folks are going through in beijing and kuala lumpur? i mean, the five stages of grief, i suppose, can start for some and not for others. how do you see what's happening to these poor folks? >> in the five stages of grief don't really work, or they don't apply to families, victims of air crashes. because it's such a different reality. and especially of a famous worldwide, well-known crash there's a lot of my families, i call them my families, my clients from 9/11 said, it's a constant reminder. others are more quiet.
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the accidents go into history and they don't have a constant reminder. but an accident like this one, and like 9/11 and like so many that have become very famous accidents that are frequently brought up in the news, it remain as constant reminder. but one of my families said it best. they said everybody talks about closure. but there's no such thing as closure. we never have closure, we'll never get closure. all we have learned to do, we've learned to live with the difference. we are now a family who has lost someone in an air crash. and they never -- it's not anything that ever gets better. it doesn't go away. but they learn to just deal with it and cope with it. and they become tremendous allies as the malaysian families will, too. because they demand answers. they demand information. they become really good fighters with you in litigation, because they say no, we'll keep going. we'll keep going. and i had one family from 9/11, they were the last case
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resolved. it took 11 years. and they stuck with it for 11 years. i have to tell you, we had 157 depositions. >> wow. >> and they stuck with it. because they have such drive to get the truth out. they have one driving force. and that is they don't want what happened to them to ever happen to any other family. and every single one of my clients has said that. i don't want this to happen to anyone else. and so they want the truth to come out. and it really helps. >> do you have a story like that, michael? the air france thing went on i know more than 70 victims of that crash were never found. is there a person or family you met that sticks with you? >> oh, absolutely. they all stick with us. this is incalculable sense of grief and loss these families have. here we don't even know what happened some 12, 13 days after the accident. i mean, it's one thing for a family to lose a loved one in a horrible crash and deal with the immediacy of that. it's quite something else when
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we don't even know if there's been a crash. we don't know what happened. and there doesn't appear to be on the near horizon any answers that are going to be forthcoming to these families. on top of that -- >> i'm sorry. go ahead. >> -- i was going to say that on top of the fact there's been 12 days here where people have no answers to what's going on, don't know what happened to their loved ones in those 12 days or in the last minutes of this flight if in fact it did crash, we also have some investigation suggesting that other people perhaps besides the pilots may have gained access to the cockpit. so in effect, that means there's 237 suspects on this aircraft in aaddition to the two pilots. so those kinds of issues are not something that the families need to be dealing with. and frankly, i think all the speculation out there as to what happened on this accident when we don't have the facts is not doing a service to the families. >> michael, we appreciate that thought. all of your thoughts. and mary as well. if you'll stay with us, mary, we
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>> translator: i was fishing when i saw the plane. it looked strange, flying low. i told my friend, that's not
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normal. normally it flies at 35,000 feet. but that night it touched the clouds. i thought the pilot must be crazy. >> that is a malaysian fisherman who claims he saw flight 370. meanwhile, 60 ships, 50 aircraft looking for the missing plane. we're learning the key search area has finally narrowed. does that mean progress? everyone is wondering. joining me, david suchi, former faa safety inspector author of "why planes crash" and investigators's fight for safe skies. phillip ball is the head of aviation security international and mary schiavo is back with me it looks like in lovely charleston. mary, you don't buy the fisherman's story, do you? >> no. i mean, i'd like to buy the fisherman's story. every sighting that you see, every possibility for another clue you get a little glimmer of hope that perhaps you can solve the mystery. but if we believe the satellite
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data points, and so far those are the few things we've had that have held. that arc that we've been seeing all week as to where the plane traveled either north which does not seem possible or south, those data points have held. and if those data points hold, then it's not possible that they went to the maldives where the fishermen said that they saw it. but it certainly is compelling. and it sounds like it would be very reasonable. but it's just not on the data points where the plane was tracked to have gone. >> right. it would have been about 1:30 in the morning, david. moonlight, he'd have to depend on moonlight i guess to see it? >> well, yeah. as far as seeing an airplane at night if it's that low as he was saying that low you'd noknow it was a big airplane going over. but those pings wouldn't indicate it was in that area necessarily. >> raised with me, phillip, you can chime in on this as well and david. i wondered would it make any sense to put out a reward offer
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to people with any information? or would that just draw crazy opportunists like flies? >> yeah. in the investigation, the thing is trying to figure out what it is that's real and what's no. as mary pointed out, only thing that's real in my mind that's really given us clues are those pings out there in the ocean. so you have to manage your resources in an investigation. and that's the best place to start is what you have that you know. >> right, phillip, i've been asking about this report. this is only confirmation we got from law enforcement sources in america, that the coordinates were punched in 12 minutes before the "all right good night." what do you make of that report? >> well, we've had so many reports that it just sort of leads us to greater speculation. what we're hearing in the last 24 hours is -- right from the beginning we've known there was a probable deliberate act that took place on board the flight
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deck. but we have to be careful, because a deliberate action to disable the transponders doesn't necessarily mean that there was criminal intent. i mean, we may have a situation that there was a fire on board the aircraft and the pilots were desperately in a heroic effort trying to save the aircraft, shutting down systems in an attempt to put out fires and prevent it spreading further. we simply don't know. until we find the wreckage or we find by some miracle the aircraft and the passengers, we don't know. terrorism is definitely one of the options that are out there. and we've certainly learned a lot of lessons from this incident, even for aviation security, whatever the outcome. we've identified a lot of holes. we've identified them in the media. and those are holes that we actually need to actually address. >> so that being the case, david, and if ever there's an event that's going to cause reform that comes to tracking planes or beefing security, it's
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something like this. you're a big proponent or very knowledgeable about this next generation gps. explain what that is and how much it could woit would cost ae don't have it. >> there's a lot of reasons about why we don't have it. but the abs system is in operation. it's out there right now. adsb is a way of using the gps navigation or gss navigation to fly rather than just based on ground-based equipment. so what next jgen was, during t time i was work on it, the idea we're working on technology in the faa, air traffic control was designed and built back in the 50s and 60s. so it's really tough to say we're still working on this old technology. but nonetheless, we're working on those backs of the ancestors. it's time to move up and upgrade into something new. that's what we're trying to do
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with nexgen. >> would the airlines have to pay for this, the faa has to pay for this? >> the faa has to pay for it. it's about a 40 to $50 billion investment. congress did approve it. and the faa started the project and they've been working on it. but the attorney general or i think it was the attorney general report just came out recently saying that the faa was as far back as 13 years on some of these projects trying to get 13 years past the schedule to not get them done. some things are on schedule, some things aren't. we'll keep going back to congress to keep asking for more money. congress is kind of at a standstill saying why would we give you more money if you can't manage what we gave you now. so the whole project is in danger right now in my mind. >> let's turn to don lemon, he has been hosting the cnn special report at the top of the week. another one coming up, experts on every aspect. got a lot of tweets. are they still coming like a flood? >> absolutely. i hate to interrupt that conversation. it was fascinating. yes, they are still coming like a flood.
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you and i were discussing this after the show last night. unbelievable. a couple of questions we're going to try to answer for folks tonight. one person says, "what person is in charge of this search? someone has to oversee all the nations searching. we've been hearing about the fbi being asked to look at the simulator but not much more in the investigation". another person says from kevin "cnn, if we find out that the pilot was practicing short landings, what would be our next move? " that's a very good question along with many other questions. bill weir, i have a question for you. >> bring it. >> you and i have been doing this for about 20 years, both of us. have you ever seen anything like this? >> no. >> i have never in my career. >> no. it is the perfect storm of sort of a primal morbid fascination, fear and fascination, the human need to know how the story ends. no. and as the new guy at cnn, this is a baptism by fire. but we're trying to pay respect to those waiting and hoping.
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try to learn as much as we can with these little bit of facts. >> as we saw with that mother today, unbelievable. by the way, if you have questions please #them 370 qs and i will see you at the top of your show. >> you're doing great work. we have new breaking news now. this just in. like you said, we're going on scraps when we can get them. an indian government official -- this is the government of india -- confirms to cnn that the malaysian government has given india coordinates for a new area to search in the efforts to find the malaysian airline 370. the official did not reveal the new coordinates, and said india is still finalizing assets to deploy in the new search area. you guys have been on this, david. india -- oh, okay. should we go to break and come back and talk about india's search? let's do that. everybody stay put. we'll explore this new bit of
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back now with our breaking news. an indian government officials confirms to cnn that the malaysian government has given india coordinates for a new area to search in efforts to find missing flight 370. the official did not reveal the new coordinates and said india is still finalizing assets to deploy to the new search area. so it seems like, david, that it's probably not on land, it's probably in maybe the bay of bengal. what does that tell you, if anything? >> for one, it's really good news. they've exhausted a search in one area and redeploying assets to another area. so that's, i think, good news. the other thing is the only other reason they would have
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done that is they have "headline news"s -- new the news or information that the hard drives are being looked at right now that there's good information from that. but either way, definitely i think that's a good sign. >> there's no indication they've pulled off australian assets. thank you, david. could there have been a third person in the cockpit of flight 370? we know the co-pilot had a history of having unauthorized guests. joining me is karleen petit, david funk, pilot and former captain for northwest airlines. so karleen, this is your theory. you suspect there might have been someone in the jump seat at takeoff. >> absolutely.
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initially i thought somebody came into the cockpit because we heard it was an hour out before this happened. but if you look at the timing, it departed at midnight 41 and seven minutes after the hour, they had the last acars report. that acars report was sent with a position report. if the information is correct that that position was input in the computer that they stated was between the pilots, i'm assuming it was in the number three fms. that would have been a jump seater. the timing, there wouldn't have been enough time for somebody in the cockpit to take over and input it. so i'm fairly certain. now i heard there was a flight engineer on the manifest. so there could be your third person right there. >> okay. david, point, counterpoint? >> not buying it, here's why. the engineer was a mechanic, not someone that was familiar probably with the 757 fms.
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number two, if i'm a captain and my jump seater starts punching buttons, i'm going to ask him to excuse himself from the cockpit. so it's unlikely they would allow a person up there. >> i would have to disagree -- >> go ahead, karleen, defend your theory. >> initially i thought beyond the flight engineer. we already know the first officer has a history of letting unauthorized people on the flight deck. the captain is -- >> just to be clear, they were very attractive australian women. >> absolutely. boys will be boys. we also know they do that. he has a passion for flying, he loves it. so some comes up, a private pilot, the middle of the night. we know one person lets people
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in, what would it hurt to let this -- maybe he's a friend of the family or somebody, but he's got a passion. there would be a reason they could let him in. >> david, final thought, what's your theory, mechanical? >> i think it's lek telectrica electrical/mechanical. i've been in the security business for 25 years. and i don't see somebody coming up to the flight deck, particularly a training and checking captain, highly respected guy within his pilot group, i don't see him violating protocol for anybody. let alone for a 27-year-old co-pilot. none of this fits. >> well, i'm sure these robust discussions are happening with investigators. i've got to move on. thank you both for that. we'll be right back. anybody have occasional constipation, diarrhea, gas, bloating?
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underlining this breaking news, the malaysian government has asked the indian government to search a new area in the southern part of the indian ocean. their search will only utilize air assets. so that is a new section. we know american planes are flying basically to the southeast of that area closer to australia. but now they have indian air assets looking in the middle of that vast ocean out there tonight. why don't we finish this hour where we began with this picture of mohan wang, 2 years old, the youngest passenger aboard flight 370. we've heard a lot about the emotional toll the searchers have to stay focused over days and weeks looking for that plane. but i know if i was in the
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cockpit of one of those planes, it would be nice to have that shot as a reminder of the stakes here. our hearts go out to the families. but hey, a new search area means new hope. special report with don lemon and all your twitter questions starts right now. this is cnn breaking news. >> good evening, everyone. this is a cnn special report, "the mystery of flight 370." i'm don lemon. we have breaking news tonight. a new area to search for flight 370 in the southern indian ocean to tell you about. malaysia has given india new coordinates for the search. every night this week we have answered your questions about the mystery that's become a worldwide obsession, and you have been tweeting us by the thousands. tonight, we want your questions and theories, your comments. we have top

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