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>> we will take one more question because i want to follow this lead. >> follow-up question. >> sure. >> about this. and i've been accused of not releasing -- informing the world about the information. this is coming to me as quick as you're seeing it on tv right now. >> if you can -- >> if you allow me to leave this to see, i will give you an anxious. >> that's an assessment. thank you very much. >> okay. okay, one more. >> okay. that's quite a development. we just heard from the malaysian authority that the acting
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transportation minister, he just received a note during that news conference, and he read it to reporters there saying that the chinese ambassador reported to him that he received a satellite image of a floating object. let's listen in to one more question from the reporter there. let's listen in. >> okay -- >> thank you very much. >> okay. it looked like we missed that. let me just recap what we just heard. there was a developing now situation there, the acting transportation minister was given a note and he read it out to the reporters. and it essentially said to the chinese government telling those authorities that they do have a satellite image in the southern corridor, where the search is going on right now of a floating object. and he said this floating object is 22 meters long and 30 meters wide. i want to bring in mary schiavo
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with the u.s. department of transportation. she currently works with -- >> announcer: this is cnn breaking news. good morning, on this saturday, boy, we just are coming out of a press conference here. and one of the big takeaways is the fact that the chinese authorities apparently found something. all they called it san object. >> an object. >> and the acting transportation minister there in this news conference about 29 minutes in, he reported that the chinese found this, they'll be giving more details later. but all he could say it was 22 meters long, 30 meters wide. for those here in the u.s., 72 feet long, 98 feet wide. and just an object that's been found. >> we don't know where, we don't know what it looks like. we know that the chinese, we understand, are going to be making an announcement later.
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saima mohsin is live in kuala lumpur this saturday morning where officials are holding this briefing. s saima, southeastern so other than this, else that stands out to you? >> reporter: yeah, there are a number of things that we've learned. let's talk about that transcript. obviously, cnn can't verify the authenticity of that transcript. we know that the authorities were asked about it. this is what they have to say, then let's talk about it. >> in this transcript, did you review the transcript of the observation between mh 370 and air traffic control is with the investigation team where it is being analyzed as is standard practice in investigations of this sort, the transcript cannot be publicly released at this stage. i can, however, confirm that the
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transcript does not indicate anything abnormal. >> reporter: and that is very crucial, victor and christi. let me tell you why, of course, we've been going through this, haven't we, very carefully on cnn. what led to the last few words we believe spoken by the co-pilot "all right. good night." just about 1:30 in the morning kuala lumpur time when the plane disappeared. the reason it's so crucial, because had something been going on in the cockpit before it disappeared or did something take place after this? that's why malaysian authorities are at pains to stay they didn't detect anything out of the normal. and authorities we've spoken to said, no, we haven't. yes, the pilot mentioned that they flying at 35,000 feet
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twice. could that be a sign that he was trying to say something subtly. or was it just him maintaining contact with air traffic control? we simply don't know. another important thing that we've been pushing about here to learn about is the cargo manifest. what exactly was on board flight mh 370 when it disappeared. they say the manifest hasn't shown anything that might be connected to the disappearance of the flight. they've also been talking in-depth about the search. christi, victor? >> saima, we're getting more information about this object that the acting transportation minister just reported on again, for those just coming in a few minutes into the show. he reported he was handed a sheet of paper. it looked as if it had just been ripped out of someone's notebook. handed it to him. and he said that the chinese have located this object, 72 feet long, 98 feet wide. and we're just getting a note
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here about where this was found. a large object in the southern indian ocean. and we're expecting the chinese to report that this is satellite imagery, much like the imagery that we found -- or that searchers found six days ago, the australians found this piece that was found there. so the question is, is this something similar? is this a piece of the original? is this another? we're going to talk with some folks to know the 777 well, to determine if this is even possible, such a large feet that is 72 feet long, 98 feet wide if that could be a piece of 370. you remember, there was that piece of debris that was found about a week into this, and many of the experts immediately said it's probably not a part of the plane because the dimensions just are not something that would come from a 777. >> right. okay. let's bring in another expert. saima, we want to thank you so much for your reporting today.
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lester benz is a former pilot. les, what do you make of this announcement that something has been seen on satellite, something of pretty good proportion? >> good morning. actually, i'm still working. the dimensions that i just heard from the chinese government it sounds like it could once again be a wing. that's certainly possible, because there's a good chance that the center fuel tanks were not utilized just because of the length of the trip, it didn't have to be utilized and that would provide the ability to allow air into that center tank that would be empty. it's possible it still could be floating. when the picture was taken, who knows. you know, it might be partially submerged. all submerged now. it's difficult to tell. by the dimensions i'd say, it could be a wing. it's fairly large. >> hey, guys, back in the
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control room. i saw a couple of days ago, actually yesterday there was a graphic that shows the measurements of the parts of this plane, if we could find that, to bring that up, to help people understand the dimensions of the 777 that would actually help. let me ask you, les, again, this is another satellite image. much like the satellite image from the south china sea. much like the satellite image that they produced a few days ago. of how of this is visual until someone can lay eyes on this thing, and the conditions are quite difficult? >> yes, that's correct. for all intents and purposes, it could be a missing container off a cargo ship. that part of the ocean has got all sorts of shipping lanes is my understanding. it's hard to say, we might be wild goose chasing it again. >> you know, being a pilot, les, i'm wondering, as you think
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about the pilots who are searching for any of this debris, that they believe to be out there, these are really tough conditions for them? i mean, it's deep water. it's open sea. there is no land mass to stop the storms that come every other day, as i understand it. help us understand from a pilot's perspective, you know, how tough it is, and what you're looking for in those kind of conditions, especially when satellite picks something up and may be able to hone in on it, how soon can you get there? >> yeah, depends upon where these airplanes launch from. i mean, the best way to find this object is a direct visual sighting. you know, i'm a boater, too. the only -- if you have a rolling sea situation, it's a lot easier just to see it up close and personal.
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>> now, for folks who are just joining us, the breaking news this morning, the acting transportation minister in his daily briefing there announced that he received word, and it was a literal note that had been passed to him that the chinese had spotted some floating object, he called it, in the southern indian ocean. the dimensions, and we've converted them from meters to feet. 72 feet long, 98 feet wide. and we're going to continue to show you that animation showing the measurements of the 777. and, les, you make a good point. i want to read something that came from the deputy prime minister of australia, warren trust this morning, he says there's a lot of debris floating around continuously. containers do fall off ships there are other explanations as to what items actually are. they believe the interest to the disappearance, it's not a
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definite lead probably a more solid lead. that was in reference to what the australians found six days ago. now we have this knew piece. my question to you, les, is there a point once we get these types of tips that this coalition of 26 countries should exponentially ramp up this search. i mean, wee searching the indian ocean, this is shot searching a small town, or even the south china sea anymore. >> yeah, victor, it's been a frustrating process for everybody. you know, i've been skeptical all along from the standpoint of i'm wondering why the elts, the emergency locator transmitters were not sending a signal to the satellites. it's a frequency that will actually give a latitude and longitude, they should be activated by salt walter. and a lot of these devices are in the slide glass which are deployed for a ditching which is
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the purpose. if that should hit the water inadvertently, those activate just by hitting that. that's why i've been skeptical that it is in the water. >> les, stick with us. we just have to take a quick break here. again, new information this morning, chinese authorities may have spotted another piece of debris in the indian ocean. we're going to talk more about what they may have found here. stick with us. means advanced technology. we learned that technology allows us to be craft oriented. no one's losing their job. there's no beer robot that has suddenly chased them out. the technology is actually creating new jobs. siemens designed and built the right tools and resources to get the job done.
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said the chinese have new satellite images of floating octobers that could be related to this mystery flight. listen, in fact, to what transportation minister hussein said a couple minutes ago. >> the news that i just received is that the chinese ambassador received satellite image of floating objects in the southern corridor. and they will be sending ships to verify. the beijing government will announce this in a couple of hours. this floating object is 22 meters longer and 30 meters wide. >> do you have anything else? >> i wouldn't know. this is all i have. >> to see, that was just a ripped sheet of paper that someone handed him. so that measurement of 22 meters longer, 30 meters wide converts to 72 feet long, 98 feet wide. we've got les abend here who is an aviation analyst here and also cnn's andrew stevens who is
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there in perth, australia, which is the base for the staging ground for these flights that are taking off to search. i want to start with you there, andrew, the chinese, because, i mean, we know 239 people on this flight, more than half of them, two-thirds even chinese citizens. they've really ramped up their search, and quite possibly, they've found something that could lead to a starting point even for the search. >> reporter: it could add to what we already know, i think, victor. given the fact -- we've got to find out exactly where this was. we know it's in the southern ocean somewhere. how close to where the australians saw the satellite pictures of those two object it's in water. the australians are talking about one of those objects being 79 feet long. so it sort of puts it in the ballpark of the same sort of size. so it would be interesting to see whether or not they could be
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looking at the same tlobt. object there. it's interesting we are waiting four days for higher resolution images. we've all seen the images that the australians released. they weren't clear at all. so depend on what the chinese have got, how far is that going to advance what we already know? it's interesting, just today, the chinese arrived here here with two il-76 aircraft, these are old optical planes. and they are used primarily, according to the australians for visual searches on that area. that's really so important in this part of the search. we know there are -- or at least there were objects out there but to actually identify what they are. that's why we've got a lot more eyes on. we've got the ships coming on as well. the australians are already there.
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one more ship, the chinese will be a couple days from now. one final point, victor. the australian prime minister said he's been speaking to the chinese leader xi jing ping, and he describes xi as being devastated. the chinese are going all out on this. >> andrew, i want to ask you something. there are a couple things in this statement that i think may be contradictory, as people might notice. one he said objects were found, making it sound plural. although he cited only one. this poor man is standing at a podium, getting this information, and that's all he's got. do we have any idea why we're not hearing from the chinese right now, and how long it may be before they give us more detail? >> reporter: you're good to point that out. it's a very odd way of
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announcing this. almost like a scribbled note hand ted last minute. given the fact that the chinese have already been burnt by releasing information that wasn't state sanctioned information but it came out nonetheless and everybody attributed to the chinese state which were the pictures in the south china sea which turned out to be completely wrong. it is a bizarre way of bringing this particular piece of evidence into the puzzle. now, the chinese haven't been over that search area yet, christi, with aircraft. with any air assets. so these are -- at least we know, they must be satellite pictures. we're going to have to wait and see, we're going to try and confirm with australian authority what is they're hearing. because the chinese -- the mere fact that there are two chinese military planes on an australian air force base here in perth, we're going to be waiting to hear from the chinese to find
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out what they're finding out about this. >> andrew thank you. i know you're seeing 6:20 a.m., but it's actually 6:20 p.m. in perth. time is of the essence. they're hoping that the planes searching can get to wherever this is. the question is, have the chinese shared with those crews who are searching where this was spotted and can they get there before sundown. andrew stephens, thank you. les abend, stay with us we want to bring from beijing, why aren't the chinese sharing this information now, and maybe they are, it suggested in the news conference in kuala lumpur that the chinese will announce this within a few hours. well, it's been announced now. >> reporter: yeah, it's been announced, and we should be getting more details in a couple hours according to the malaysian authorities. and just to touch on what andrew was saying earlier about the last time satellite images were released by china. there was definitely a
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disconnect and some some kind of miscommunication about that. you remember when the satellite images were released last week that was released from the satellite research center, their government website. but then we were told the next day by the ministry of foreign affairs which is the mouthpiece of the chinese government, that they were not aware of those images. so someone wasn't talking to someone else. in fact, the malaysian government had said they were not aware of those images when they were released on that government website. so presumably, the chinese government would have ironed out this kind of flow of information. and that if they had given some sort of indication to the malaysians today, that they had this satellite imagery, presumably, that would have been vetted. and that more information would be coming down the line later on today. now, i can tell you that the families here in beijing, many
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of them were probably watching this news conference at 5:30. many of them still here in beijing, staying in this hotel. every night, most of them go back to their hotel rooms to see this news conference out of kuala lumpur. so, surely, they are absorbing this information. but time and time again, they've been so discouraged and so frustrated. earlier today, there was a second high-level meeting between these families and malaysian authorities. this is a meeting that they've been asking for for days. now, some of their questions were answered in prepared statements. but as you can see from this video, emotions started running high. and here's what happened. one of the officials started listing all of the assets used in this search and rescue operation, search and recovery, naming all of the aircraft, all of the ships being used by different countries. one chinese man, a relative stood up and said, don't waste our time. this is information you can just put on a bulletin board on the wall and we can all read it
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later. for now, we want valuable information. we want the truth. that's when you saw lots of relatives stand up echoing his sentiments. then there was a lot of shouting, you heard furniture being moved around. i heard two loud crashes in that room. i couldn't see what it was, i think it was furniture that may have gotten knocked down. during this time, christi and victor, the malaysian officials got up and left, worried about their safety. so we are not sure at this point if these officials are actually going to come back tomorrow to meet with the families because certainly it didn't end very well. >> pauline chiou live in beijing. pauline, thank you so much. listen, we're going to have more on the breaking news. just to recap, the chinese officials are saying they have found via satellite some sort of, they believe, debris or an object floating in the southern corridor.
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>> announcer: this is cnn breaking news. good morning. and the breaking news this morning, is that at the news conference this morning in kuala lumpur, it was announced that chinese officials, via satellite, have identified a floating object in the southern corridor, which is there off the west coast of australia. and this object, this floating object, they're calling it, 72 feet long, 98 feet wide. and this could be the next step to give the searchers a starting point, quite possibly. now, they have to lay eyes on it, determine if it's part of the plane, part of 370. let's bring in cnn aviation analyst les abend of new york
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also contributing editor of "flying magazine." >> les, you said, based on the parameters which we were given, 72 feet long by 98 feet wide, you say that could potentially be a wing. let's say that perhaps this might be a wing from flight 370, how long would it be, if we know that plane broke apart, and this is a wing, before other objects may float to the surface to give us a better handle on what they're dealing with underneath? >> well, i mean, this puzzles me that there aren't more objects. i mean, there's plenty of things from an aircraft that should be floating. life jackets from underneath the seat cushions. the seat cushions themselves. also sorts of debris, so why we haven't seen that at all, it really -- it really does puzzle me. >> you know, we're just getting in that the second australian search plane that -- there was a
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first that came in at about 4:30 eastern time this morning. the second has just come in. and it reported that it found nothing of significance in its sweep of the southern indian ocean. well, the chinese have found something, quite possibly, via satellite that could be significant. are you surprised that these planes are coming in, considering the possible lead here in the southern indian ocean? >> well, i am. and i guess the question, hopefully, will get a little more details on it, as you know, from the first time we got this lead where all the aircraft are focused right now, it was four days. that satellite imagery had been taken until we intensified that search. in the area just 1400 miles southwest of perth. now, what's the imagery date of this particular object that we're finding floating.
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we're seeing the same object, it sounds like it's a little different fragment, you know, my -- i'm just curious what the latest date is on this one. >> i mean, now, we're looking at the fact that we're in day of this. and this is a tough -- this is a tough place, i think, somebody called it the most inhospitable places on earth, one of them. because of the storms that roll through. and because the sea can be so turbulent. how do you characterize the rescue crews? and how much time they have to go -- i mean, i would think this would be a pretty exhausting search, for even with so many people on board. >> yeah. i mean, my understanding is how this is conducted. you know, this is -- considering we're still looking at the same place at the moment. four hours out to the site to begin the grid search probably these folks that are actually
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doing the eyeball type stuff, the naked eye, are resting, so that their energy level is up by the time they start that search. but i fly across the north atlantic quite frequently. and just looking down, north atlantic, of course, a little different, but it still has the same kind of rolling sea situation. it's a frightening proposition for me if i ever have to ditch an airplane down there. it has marginal possibilities of being totally successful even under a control situation. so it's a nasty -- it can be nasty conditions throughout. >> okay. les abend, thank you so much for being with us. we appreciate it. again, just to recap here. chinese authorities announcing this morning that their satellite image picked up an object that is 72 feet long, 98 feet wide in the southern corridor there. could it be part of flight 370? we're going to be taking a look at who may be on their way out
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stunning revelation from the malaysian authorities on the search for 370. the country's acting transportation minister says that china's government sound the satellite image of a large floating object in the southern indian ocean. now, he says it's 72 feet, and the new number that we have as it related to the width is 42 1/2 feet. so 72 feet long by roughly 42 1/2, 43 feet. now, he said china will release more information in the coming hours so hopefully, we'll get more about exactly where this is. as there are search crews throughout now. we know there were six sent out, two have come in. hopefully from the longitude and latitude of this has been passed on to the pilots. >> as victor mentioned, nothing think about, 6:37 here, but it's 6:37 at night there. they are really under the gun, so to speak, because nightfall is going to be coming. how much searching can they do then. sand the weather cooperating
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with them. and we know this is wide open space in the ocean. there is no land mass near it to help buffer it from some of the storms that come every other day. we want to go out to jennifer gray and find out what the weather looks like there. certainly, we wouldn't want it to hamper the search there. >> yeah, depends on where you are. of course, bad weather is hampering the search for missing flight 370. in addition to rough seas and warning, a cyclone warning has been declared for the southern corridor. where the debris this is far north of where the debris was spotted but that section and southern sections, we're also watching an area of showers that could be pushing in in the next 24 hours or so. this is sunday, 4:00 a.m. east coast time which means 4:00 p.m. where the debris is located. that's going to mean rough seas for those searchers as we go through the next 24 hours or so. that is on sunday. this is cyclone, this is
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gillian, this is far north of where that debris is. searchers in this area, right now it has winds of 65 miles per hour with gusts up to 80. it is expected to intensify and weaken and push off to the west. so is this definitely bad news for searchers in this area. of course, this is something that we'll be watching for days to come, guys. >> certainly, meteorologist jennifer gray, thank you so much. of course, we'll continue our coverage of this breaking news. chinese satellites identifying some floating objects in the southern indian ocean. could this be part of malaysian flight 370. >> we're back in a moment. our b. so, if you're sleeping in your contact lenses, ask about the air optix® contacts so breathable they're approved for up to 30 nights of continuous wear. ask your doctor about safety information as serious eye problems may occur. visit airoptix.com for a free one-month trial. are you still sleeping?
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of course, we'll continue to follow the breaking news of chinese satellite spotting that object floating in the southern corridor. but we also have to talk about some developments in ukraine box that's anything but over. this weekend, international monitors sent by europe's security body are on their way to ukraine. >> this, of course, a day after president putin officially made crimea a part of russia. monsters the organization of security and cooperation are going to be keeping an eye on the human rights situation in the region for six months. however, they will not, we understand, enter crimea itself. >> cnn international correspondent ivan watson is in kiev. ivan, what is the situation like in ukraine now, now that we've understood that the white house is very concerned about some operations and tactics that are happening there with russian
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troops? >> absolutely. i mean, in addition to the crimean peninsula which russia has famously now annexed, there's a substantial buildup of russian military forces along ukraine's eastern border with russia which is causing great concern, not only for the pentagon, and nato, the nato military alliance, but also for the ukrainian government here which has only been in power for a couple weeks. it's mobilizing its military forces and a drive to expand the national guard of 40,000 people. basically trying to warn russia of avoiding, trying to make any further incursions into ukrainian territory. so people are watching the buildup across the border with great concern here. >> i'm sure they're going to be watching two leaders, including president obama meeting next week. this group, as they're going to
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discuss ukraine. do you have any details at this point as to what's going to be on their agenda? >> well, you know, this crisis has really put russia and ukraine and old kind of cold war-style politics, back on top of the agenda, for the white house and for europe as well. they're imposing sanctions on russian officials. and we've heard in recent weeks about the u.s., for example, rushing f-16 and f-15 fighter jets to eastern europe to patrol the skies there. there's great concern there now, clearly in an effort to coordinate efforts to deal with russia's actions in annexing crimea to find a joint effort do-to-do this. european partners have made it that in the downturn in the european economies. and it's difficult for some of
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those governments to impose tough sanctions against russia which is a major trading partner for some of the more vulnerable european countries so that's also a concern. we have seen, however, really interesting as you both mentioned, this common ground between u.s. and russia when it comes to sending these observers to ukraine. russia indicated it welcomes this deployment of 100 observers, it says they're going to help stop what russia describes as banditry on the ground. i haven't personally seen this banditry. although there are military occupying the square behind me here. but the united nations has said there is not this widespread movement in ukraine. that is what they've used for occupying crimea. victor and christi. >> and we'll see if that becomes part of the justification, as
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the u.s. watches to see if he moves farther into ukraine. ivan watson in kiev for us. thank you so much. first lady michelle obama is visiting china. her week-long trip is focusing on diplomacy in the region but she took a moment to express her solidarity with the families of the passengers of the missing flight. >> i just want to say a very brief words about malaysian airlines flight 370. as my husband said, united states is offering as many resources as possible in the search. and please know that we are keeping all of the families and loved ones on this flight in our thoughts and in our prayers at this very difficult time. >> at the speech at peking university, mrs. obama called on china to express universal rights, including freedom of
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object. the dimensions, we can see it here, this is a picture, 72 feet long, 42 feet wide. this is the image from the chinese satellites that have been searching this southern corridor. of where flight 370 possibly disappeared. is this, that's a big question, part of the plane? >> les abend is with us, he's a cnn analyst and aviation analyst, les, is this an image from four days ago that is just being released. apparently it was captured on march 18th. why is it that there's a delay in finding these images and releasing them? >> good question, christi. my expertise is flying an airplane. it seems this requires a lot of analysis before any of these things are announced. i was just staring at the screen trying to locate the latitude
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and longitude where that object was discovered four days ago. so it would be interesting to plot that out on a map. the new dimensions that i heard just before the last segment seem to be more appropriate to the dimensions of a wing fragment. so that's a better detail to get. >> and people right now are at the maps and mapping out exactly through the longitudal ae aal a latitude information there. i'm going to ask a question that i probably know the answer to, but looking at this, this is not an object that you can make out. it's not like we saw a few days ago from the australians. this has, from what we're seeing here, several different densities here, and there seems to be, i can't tell if there's that line or what -- >> yeah, the line. >> next to it, connected to it. does this look like anything that you might from first glance say it could be this or that?
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>> you know, i don't have a clue. i don't know if that line is actually part of the image. but it's really hard to say. you know, once again, i'm pretty skeptical. that new dimension could once again be a container. you just don't know. >> les, we're talking about how time is of the essence right now. it's almost 7:00 in the morning here. but it's almost 7:00 at night there. once they do hit -- you know, once the sun goes down, are search efforts completely called off? or in a case like this, where we have something breaking, we have something new to look for, would they continue to look for anything, or is it just futile, in the darky. >> yeah, christi, that's a good question. my opinion is, they would probably, with night coming into the picture, i would discontinue the search. i think the only way we're going
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to find this thing, four days later, who knows where it had -- where it drifted now, and if it's still floating, i would probably call off the search and all the assets. it's just -- it seems like it would be a fruitless situation in the dark, even with radar. because if this is an object that can be located, it may not have enough material that radar can pick up. >> how much time do we have tonight? i mean, now 6:55 p.m. there at perth. we know that at two of the six planes that were out searching, those have come back and they've found nothing. to search for this, once they get this information in australia, how much time do they have before they need to just call it for the night? >> yeah. they probably have, at the very most, another hour, like we do here in new york, even as the sun sets, you know, you have a little bit of light. unless those assets, as far as
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airplanes and any sort of ships in the area, i wouldn't -- i this point.ntinue to search at - even for safety reasons. >> all right. les abend, we understand -- are we getting the coordinates? >> les, we've now got here on the screen, this is the point at which this is found. a considerable distance. can we back that out a little more. i want to know how close that is to the island off of the west of australia. this is a considerable distance from perth where the planes have taken off, les. and they're not going to make it out there. even if this object is still in place four days later which is highly unlikely. they're going to have to wait until day break tomorrow to get out there. >> yeah, that's frustrating. that was a little over 1,400
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miles the last time the search for satellite imagery was found. you're going to need a bigger airplane with a lot more fuel to get out to that distance and who knows -- like you said, where it drifted from there. >> but if you have the coordinators, real quickly, before we let you go, would they be sending ships out there right now to be out there as the sun rises? >> christi, i doubt. unless there's a merchant ship of sorts throughout at that point. or we have one of our military navy ships out there, i doubt they would. >> okay. well, les, we so appreciate your expertise. and bringing us your thoughts on this during this breaking news. thank you for spending so much time with us this morning. >> we'll take a quick break and we'll continue with this breaking news at the top of the hour in just a couple minutes. stay with us.
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>> announcer: this is cnn breaking news. take a nice deep breath, folks. we've got breaking news here in regards to the missing malaysia airplane 370. we have may have spotted something, or chinese authorities may have spotted something this morning. i'm christi paul. >> i'm victor blackwell. 7:00 here on the east coast. this is "new day saturday." also the nearing of the third day of this multinational search for pieces of debris. still no traces of the plane. but the breaking news this morning, is that malaysian authorities at the news conference, the acting transportation minister said that the chinese ambassador received this satellite image. it's of a floating object.
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now the dimensions are 72 feet long, 43 feet wide in the southern corridor here, in the southern indian ocean. china plans to send ships to confirm it. that's the important part, laying eyes on it. we've been here several times in this mystery day 15. >> we have, right now at this hour, 7:00 in the morning, eastern, we're waiting to hear from the chinese. it was almost haphazardly handed -- >> it was a ripped sheet of paper. >> it was handed to the transportation minister during this press conference in malaysia. this information that they had spotted something, and that was it, saying they would release more in a couple hours so we're waiting to hear from them, about maybe, hopefully, more specifics. but you've seen the satellite picture. here are the coordinates, you can see how far this is away, we're working right now to figure out transportation time to get to this area. and how many people are going to
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go. how many jets. how many planes. we know six planes, both military and corporate jets, we should point out, scouring the waters of this region today where that debris is believed to be. a u.s. navy, p-8 plane is also part of this operation. two australian planes that have returned already today say they found nothing of significance. but we do not know if they were in this area. >> yeah. >> where this satellite image was taken. the satellite image taken four days on march 18th. >> yeah, march 18th at noon is what it's dated. let's put the map up, guys. i want to tell people what they're looking at. what you're seeing that pinpoint, where that debris -- i don't want to call it debris -- the floating object was found off the western coast of australia there.
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guys, back there, if you can get the distance at perth where the planes are taking off, with our correspondents with the multinational coalition, 26 countries now searching and assisting in the investigation. this is where the chinese satellite said they found this item. this floating object. we're going to learn more later. i think we've got barbara starr with us this morning. we can go to barbara now. okay. we've got barbara starr with us. barbara, what will it take for the taos try to get involved and out to this southern corridor, now that we know where this was located four days ago to get u.s. equipment and resources to it? >> well, let mel reframe that a little bit. this is a coalition operation run by the australians, so all parties, all hands on deck, whoever's got the closest asset will go out and look at it. but i think we should go back to that satellite image because wherever that was taken four
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days ago, that object certainly is not in that exact location. these are very rough waters. after four days it will have drifted. the wind, the water current, all of that. they're going to want to know if the water current is actually running that direction. could it actually be out there. a lot of calculations to be done. it would have moved from here. this is the problem when satellites find these objects. the way the search has been going, what they've been doing, they try and send aircraft out first. not ships. aircraft can get there, potentially, depending how far it is, much quicker, if it's within range of an aircraft, they will go look for it. if they find it. and so far, they haven't been ever able to locate any of the satellite objects they've been looking for, if they find it. an aircraft will drop a gps marker with the location of the debris so that a ship can get out there and take an even closer look at it. that gps marker with the piece of whatever it is in the ocean
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will be able to have aircraft ping on it as it moves around. so, still, a very long way to go. they're going to want to put eyeballs on it of some sort. somebody to go up, take a look at it, and see if it really even looks like it's feasible it came from an aircraft, christi, victor. >> barbara, i want to let you know, we're learning this floating object that people are looking at here, this is the satellite image from authorities march 18th four days ago we have learned it is floating about 75 miles southwest of those other suspicious objects found by australia several days ago. barbara for you, we know defense secretary chuck hagel has ordered the navy to find out whether under water technology can help locate that wreckage. have authorities in australia, in china, and malaysia, have they been receptive to allows
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resources and have they been welcoming it? >> oh, certainly. right now, it's pretty much the p-3 and p-8 aircraft because that is he moment is all the malaysian, and the u.s. have really put against all of this. what you're talking about is a little bit farther down the rowland. the malaysian minister and secretary hagel had a phone conversation yesterday. they talked about trying to see if it's feasible for the u.s. to technically be able to offer undersea surveillance technology which is some of the most classified technology the u.s. navy has to potentially recover debris, recover wreckage when and if they find it. and some acoustic technology to listen for the data recorders, but that can only come after they find debris, verify it and know where then they can begin to calculate, looking for the
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data recorders. vast piece of water, is this a huge, multidimensional search problem. >> certainly is, now that the sun is setting there off the coast of australia, much of the search will have to wait until day break tomorrow. barbara starr, thank you so much. we'll get back to you in just a moment so standby. we want to continue this conversation. do we have a picture of the satellite image of the chinese that we can put up as we trout panel. mary schiavo and we have this breaking news of this image of this floating object. mary, it's dated march 18th, one of the problem it's in investigation, now day 15, is that countries are holding on to this information, the raw data
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so long that by the time you can get crews out to it, the currents in this part of the world could have washed it away? >> right. and they've explained their delays and several of these delays in that they have put eyes on the satellite picture and the time they review the data and see they might have something, days have passed. there was also news yesterday from immarstat that they have received coordinates days after the crash to the authorities. maybe they can go back to those original coordinates on that original sighting when they thought something was there it's very frustrating. the size of this one is very large. i don't know, this particular piece might be too big after all the days in the walter. pieces of plane are pretty torn and battered and torn apart. >> so you're skeptical that this is a part of 370? >> on this one, yes. but i do think they are looking
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in the right place. >> everyboy, what is your take? >> when they released data earlier on and it turned out to be nothing. a lot is a little bit of embarrassment on their part. they want to be careful even if they get to that information and then release it because there has been a lot of criticism throughout as far as how this investigation is going. >> and that's something we saw from the acting transportation minister when he held up that sheet of paper and there were follow-up questions. he said, i've been accused of holding on to information too long. i'm just going to ahead it now that it was given to me. of course, that fed the appetite, or created an appetite to ask why are the chinese waiting a few hours for that news conference. i'll put that question to you, mary. it's been announced. and you have planes out there right now, we don't know where they are, that are searching. maybe when it was announced the sun was still up. why not reless that information then?
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>> exactly. no explanation for that, except they have been now trying to finally get the families briefed and to tell them and in the united states, what we'd do, the ntsb gets the families together and briefs them sometimes as the same time as the media, often before, so that would not be unlike what we do. that's the only thing i can think of. i have no knowledge if that's why for the delay. >> all right, mary schiavo and evy. as we continue to show you the images from chinese authorities as well as gauging exactly where this is. this object. >> yes, floating object. >> floating object in the middle of the indian ocean. stay close.
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following this morning, investigators may have a new lead in the search for missing flight 370. >> the acting minister of transportation says china, here's the image, folks, china spotted this large object. cnn's andrew are stephens is in perth, australia, which is the base for the air search. we are just learning, andrew, that this item was found 1,970 miles away from where you are standing right now, from perth. and where planes and ships will be taking off. how long do you gauge it would take for them to get out to this area? >> reporter: it will be at least four hours to get out to that area. but that's a critical piece of information because it does put that object reasonably close to the other objects that have been identifies by australian satellites in the water which is the search is folk coverage on.
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it's very much in the zone. i had a quick look at that satellite picture in the air. it's pretty indistinct as the other australian objects are, all very indistinct at this stage. but it could be a missing piece in the puzzle, or it could be actually missing debris. the dimensions are 70 feet by 40 feet wide. we originally were told it was 90 feet wide. it sort of fits with the pattern of the other objects. at this stage, we don't know. but what i can tell you, it's owe critically important to get eyes on these objects. and this is what's happening at the moment in perth, the operation, the search is really ramping up. and they're getting more planes involved with observers. spotters. the chinese have arrive here, at the -- perhaps surprisingly for some people, at the australian air base. there are now two chinese military jets packed on the runway ready to head out
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tomorrow morning. they've got visual aids. that's what they're looking for. that's the key to this, the australians keep saying get something confirmed sighting. getting actual vision of where these are. this could be a useful clue. it may turn out to be nothing, it may turn out to be what we already know. it's very difficult at this stage. >> so, you mention this item is pretty close to where the floating october was discovered six days ago by the australians. we can tell our viewers, 75 miles -- the one found by the chinese is 75 miles southwest of where the one found by the australians that has not been located. i want to ask you about the weather. jennifer gray is here, but you look dry, the wind's not blowing. it's dark now. what are the expectations as we move into tomorrow, there could be a starting point for this, what's the expectation as we move into sunday's search? >> reporter: not good, victor.
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there is more bad weather blowing in. the conditions here today in perth very nice day. remember, the search area is four hours' flying time from here southwest. the pilots we were talking about. the planes land, the pilot comes over to us and gives us a brief statement. no questions so we can't get a feel for what they're going through. visibility wasn't good. thick cloud, low cloud, going from 500 feet to 2500 feet. that is a problem if you're looking, you have to bring the plane right down low to the water which does limit the search area. what i should point out, commercial planes are now involved in this search as well. if they can get to the zones a lot quicker and they can stay on target for longer. twice as long as these military planes are doing. but if that visibility starts closing in, which is what we're expecting what we're being told, that's going to hamper this
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crucial part of the search just to actually eyeball that area, victor. >> all right. andrew stevens there in perth, the staging ground for all of these planes and all the resources that are searching for possibly this now item that was located. andrew, thank you very much. we'll get back to you in just a moment. we continue with the breaking news this item that was found floating in the south indian ocean by chinese satellites four days ago. we learned about it this morning. here is the satellite image. we expect to hear more from the chinese soon. we'll continue with our coverage after this break. so our business can be on at&t's network for $175 a month? yup. all 5 of you for $175. our clients need a lot of attention. there's unlimited talk and text. we're working deals all day. you get 10 gigabytes of data to share. what about expansion potential? add a line, anytime, for $15 a month. low dues, great terms. let's close!
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>> announcer: this is cnn breaking news. all right. we are getting word today in this critical search for malaysia flight 370 that something, some object has been found in the southern corridor, and take a look at this picture. it's a satellite image that was taken by chinese authorities. but it's four days old, even though it's just being released this hour. this morning. mary schiavo cnn aviation analyst and inspector general is with us, as well as evie, a former secret service agent as well. i want to start with you. first of all, this image is four days old, it's just now being released. secondly, the chinese authorities handed this
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information to the malaysian transportation minister during his press conference on a little sheet of paper where he said something has been found floating. and that's all he knew. it was kind of an odd way to get the word out, then saying we're going to wait a couple hours before we release any more information. i know you have been skeptical of this investigation and that you said, basically, we are watching the mismanagement of this investigation. in the process. what do you see specifically, this break in protocol, as we try so desperately to find this plane. >> i think there has been a lot of mismanagement regarding this investigation. one of the things is, first of all, we're obviously trying to locate and find a plane and that is a priority because we're looking for obviously the plane and possibly survivors. but at the same time in tend dem, you need to do other things. some of those other things are
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obviously assessing the pilots which did not happen until several days later in the investigation. that's a concern. that should have been done day one. you run all of those leads in tend dem. the other concern is let's go to the simulator, how long did they take before actually the malaysian authorities went to the residents of the pilot and co-pilot to basically search and seize whatever they could. they waited too long. again with the simulator, as far as computers go. printers, you want to grab printers. and when you go and you basically seize any type of electronic device there say protocol that you need to follow. you can't just start unplugging things, turning switches on and off. that changes the integrity of things. also chain of custody with the evidence, because later on if you don't maintain integrity there can be concerns with those. as far as how did they do this
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forensic assessment, i was an investigator but i knew enough to know i would never touch the electric equipment or computers. i would bring in the technical experts. the other thing that's the another red flag is the cell phone. we're just hearing about the cell phone the last few days about the pilot and co-pilot. why didn't they talk to the that early on. they're talking about the last phone call made. we should have been looking at that day one. we're also looking at the cell phone of the passengers. again, focus should be on the plane. all the leads that we do have are not being good with. >> mary, the other information from the news conference, the big story -- mary's gone, okay, i'll bring this question to you, evy, the other information that came from the news conference, the ceo of malaysia airlines told reporters that the transcript that was obtained and published by uk's "telegraph" is not accurate. now, it didn't elaborate on
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which portions weren't accurate. my question to you is, could it simply be something translating from english to mandarin to english then creates questions about what exactly the pilot and air control discussed? >> i don't think so. i think that you have interprets, you have good interpreters i know what to do. i've worked with interpreters before. you see a lot of hastiness. going at it halfway. like you mentioned the malaysians basically handing over a sheet of paper saying here this is what we have, we'll get back to you. this is not proper protocol. again, is this a government investigation. this isn't a small local entity or police department within malaysia. they should be doing a much better job or thorough job than they are. if this were happening here on our side of the house it would be much different. that's why it took them several days when they realized they were overwhelmed by this, they actually reached out to other
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countries, including us, saying you can help us. obviously, they gave us the mirror did of the drive because they don't have the means or intelligence to be doing what they do. >> aviation consultant mary schiavo, we lost her, we thank you so much. and everybody? pomp porras. if the image spotted is from flight 370 which people have been looking for, it could take a very long time to fight the flight recorders and to know what happened to the men and women on board. we'll continue our coverage of the breaks news after this. when you have diabetes like i do, you want a way to help minimize blood sugar spikes. support heart health. and your immune system. now there's new glucerna advance with three benefits in one. [ male announcer ] new glucerna advance. from the brand doctors recommend most. [ male announcer ] new glucerna advance. nascar is about excitement.
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>> announcer: this is cnn breaking news. so glad to have you with us. 7:32 to be exact on a saturday morning. i'm christi paul. >> i'm victor blackwell. here's the latest on the disappearance of malaysia airlines flight 370. the big news this morning, quite possibly a lead in the search for the flight. beijing says it will be sending ships to verify an image, this image, from a chinese satellite. chinese officials say the image shows and they characterize this as suspicious. a suspicious floating object in the southern indian ocean. this is about 74 feet long by 43 feet wide. this was captured four days ago
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on the 18th, on tuesday. this comes as search planes are scanning the remote stretch of the southern indian ocean looking for any trace of flight 370. >> and that is no easy task right now. this is, as you can see by that red dot there, showing you where this latest object was found. this is in the middle of nowhere, folks. there is no land around this to buffer it from the storms that hit in that sea every other day. meteorologist jennifer gray with us now. give us an idea of what they're going to be fighting through in the next couple of days as they try to get to this object? >> yeah, as we know, we've been talking about this for weeks now, it is definitely not a very forgiving part of the world. we have a lot of weather features that we've been watching down there and it has been pretty nasty at times. of course, this is where the original objects are located. the search is obviously going to shift a little farther to the southwest. we do have a band of showers
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expected to come on through. this is sunday 5:00 a.m. local time. owe 5:00 p.m. and it is going to bring some very gusty winds. 40 and 50-mile-per-hour winds at times, you can expect rough seas in that location as well. as we travel very far to the north, right around christmas island, there are searchers in this area as well. we have a cyclone on our hands. this is gillian and it's expected to intensify the over next couple of days. 65-mile-per-hour winds expected to intensify over the next few days. one thing i want to point, if the new object that they seem to have located on the satellite images is 100 miles or so to the to the southwest of that, the dangerous part about that it could get wrapped up in that southwestern current that we've been talking about. it moves at one foot per second. with this new information, guys,
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it could make it difficult to locate. >> jennifer, thank you so much. what science it is trying to figure out how best to get to these things and how far they might have traveled by the time somebody might be able to get there. in addition to that, time is running out for find this thing because the flight data recorder may go silent in the next two weeks. >> yeah. you got to consider the batteries on this missing jet's locator beacons are now at 50% this morning. meaning that search teams have only 15 more days until the electronic pings we've been discussing for two weeks are due to stop transmitting. >> johns hansmann is a professor of aeronautics. john, thank you for being with us. the chinese satellite discovering a floating object there in the southern indian ocean. if searchers can find that object and it turns out to be
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from flight 370, does that make it any more likely that searchers goring to find the data recorder in 15 days as we talk about these currents and how fast moving things are. >> well, first off, we have to keep an open mind as to whether this is part of the missing airplane. it actually looks to be too big to be too big to be part of the airplane. there's no part of the airplane that is that wide. but we have to track it down. if it is a part of the airplane, it's going to be a rough job to get to the pinger on time. you have to backtrack upstream to where this may have gone in the water and search in that area and it's going to take time to get assets to the right location. this is going to help but it's still questionable as to whether it's going to get to the flight data recorder in time to get to the pinger. even if we don't get the pinger -- >> go ahead. >> even if we don't get the pinger and we know roughly where
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to search, we can search with sonar equipment on the bottom of the ocean. it's much tougher, it's much easier to have that pinger localize on you. >> you mentioned that this can quite possibly too big to be that part of the plane. guys if we can get that animation that shows the dimensions of the 777 so people can understand if it is part of the 370. there it. again, the item found, 72 feet long, 42 feet wide. my question to you about the batteries and the flight data recorder, john, is let's say that it takes another 15, 16, 17 days to find this plane. and once they find the data recorder, the pings have stopped but will all the information still be stored? or do you lose that, too, once the battery dies? >> no, no, the information is actually -- it's designed so that you don't need any power. it's been written in. so as long as it can be recovered, you'll get the data. so, for example, for air france 447, it took two years to find
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the flight data recorder, but we got all the data. so that's not a concern. it's just going to be much harder to track down when you don't have that identification ping being sent out to make it easier to find. >> this mystery flight has gotten a lot of talk of new technology that needs to be added to these planes. one of them making flight data and voice recorders that have a greater capacity. why would anybody fight -- is sounds like something so positive. is that a tough technology to create? i mean, what is -- what is your thought on? >> no, the capacity thing is pretty easy to fix. the reason why cockpit voice recorders have a limited capacity actually has to do with privacy concerns on the part of the flight crew. you know, they don't want big brother looking over their shoulder. so the agreement with the flight crews as, you only want to know this in order to understand an accident if it occurs so they're
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designed to have a limits amount of time so you don't have two weeks of flight crews talking if someone wanted to go back and figure that out. that's the reason why they're limited. there are technologies that we have today, it's much easier to record data. so there is discussion of having more flight data recorders on the airplane, probably one that would break away in the event of an accident and maybe float. so there are different technologies like that can help in a case like this. >> john hansman, professor of aeronautic, at m.i.t. so grateful to be able to talk with you. next on "new day," we have this breaking news of this object being found, imagine what the relatives, the loved ones, who are waiting for some word, what they're feeling this morning as they're looking at what chinese satellites found this item. we'll talk with a clinical psychologist about the ability to keep hope alive, or people who have been waiting for some
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>> announcer: this is cnn breaking news. and the breaking news this morning, if you're just joining us 17 minutes until the top of the hour, but chinese satellites have spotted a floatinging object they consider suspicious here, of course, in the search for malaysian airlines flight 370. we'll expect to hear more from them, the chinese officials in a moment. you see the coordinates here,
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44.57 and 90 degrees 13 minutes east of the meridian. almost 2,000 miles west of perth where the plains are taking off in their search in day 15. it's just been 15 days of grief, pain and confusion for the relatives of the passengers. just waiting for answers. but how do they maintain hope during this ordeal? >> yeah, well clinical psychologist jeff gardere is joining us live from new york. jeff, thank you so much for being with us. and when we look at -- i try to understand, i try to have some sort of understanding of what they're feeling, even this morning, as they wake up and they see, oh, my goodness, maybe there is going to be an answer of some sort. what do these people need most from us right now? >> right now, what they need most from us and what they're getting is support. they're getting support from all over the world. support from various world
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governments. of course, they're very, very upset with the malaysian government and the malaysian airlines because they feel they've gotten inconsistent information and fuzzy words, as they call it. but we found out that even the air france flight that went down many years ago, even those families are now sending good wishes and support to these present families right now. so that's a very good thing. >> you know, i wonder if this has, this new breaking news, has depreciated value. there was this item that was found in the south china sea. there was the item that was found six days ago by the australians. now today's item found by the chinese. i imagine there are some who say until you can tell me this is part of 370, i don't want to hear about it. or am i wrong? what do you think? >> yeah, victor, i think you're
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right on that one. as a matter of fact, some of the media have tried to interview the family members, and several of them are now saying we don't want to talk about this anymore until we have definitive information because we've been getting information that is not good information or true information. but i'll tell you what's going on, is that now as the days passed, a lot of these family members are actually hoping that the plane was hijacked and that their family member, still alive. so anytime they get this kind of information, they may not see it as being true information, but it also dashes their hopes a little bit more. as time goes on, they're getting more and more into this hope that it was a hijacking. so it's a copinging mechanism. maybe not the healthiest coping mechanism. but it is helping them stay true to the cause right now. >> the images are so jarring. you talk about some of them are clinging to hope that they're going to be alive. others are on the other end of
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the spectrum. you wonder what they were going through if they did die, and did they suffer. how is it as a psychologist that you can help reconcile that? >> well, the air france families have told them, in time, you will have to move on. but the most important thing they can do is continue to talk to the counselors that are provided there. and talk to one another as family members, as in many ways relatives in arms who have the same mission of trying to find out what happened with that doomed flight. so it really is about the catharsis is. it really is about the communication. and letting them vent their anger. they're really, really enraged at this point, and they've been treated badly because of that. we need to listen to them. >> they want to be heard. >> absolutely. >> they just want to be heard and they just want some answers. >> we can't forget that. >> yeah.
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here is the picture of the image. now it is a frantic race to get out there to recover it and see what it is. >> nearly 2,000 miles from perth. let's go to cnn's meteorologist jennifer gray. we understand the conditions out there will be rougher through the start of the week. >> guys, this is not the caribbean. this is a very, very rough ocean. we have very strong winds. we have very high seas. we are also looking at a cyclone as well. this is where the object was originally thought to be. now we're searching an area just to the southwest of that. as we go through the next 48 hours, it does look like we are going to get some rain in that area. also going to increase the winds. we could see winds tomorrow anywhere from 40 to say 50 miles per hour at times during the end of the day. so the winds will be building throughout the day. as you can imagine, the seas will also be building throughout
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the day. we have to keep in mind that there are searchers all over the indian ocean. as we head to the extreme north, we have a tropical cyclone. we have gillian. winds of 65 miles an hour and expected to intensify in the next 48 hours. i want to mention the ocean currents. we have some very strong ocean currents. we have talked about the australian current. it moves one foot per second. if these objects get into that west australian current, guys, it will be hard to get to it because it moves quickly. very difficult to search. >> becoming more difficult. jennifer gray, thank you. >> announcer: this is cnn breaking news. we are grateful for your company. i'm christi paul. >> and i'm victor blackwell.
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let's start off with what we have learned. china has satellite images showing this. a large object, a suspicious floating object, in the southern indian ocean. malaysian transportation minister relayed that information in a news conference a short time ago. someone handed him this note on a ripped sheet of paper and someone read it out to him. the object is 74 feet long, 43 feet wide. china plans to send ships out to find out what this is. >> we are talking about six planes and corporate and military jets have been scouring the southern indian ocean today where two pieces of debris were spotted six days ago where they are believed to be. that is just 75 miles from where this new piece or object that they found via satellite is. so fairly close together. we are talking about 75 miles
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apart, but we do know a couple of the australian ships or planes have come back already today reported no significant sightings. >> that was also without the knowledge of this possibly being there. the chinese releasing more information later. the norwegian cargo ship in the area, that was diverted and now is asking to take part in the search or being asked. british, australian and chinese and malaysian ships are heading there as well. >> the primary focus is now the southern arc of the search area as we were saying. probably the most remote, really, part of the planet, as some people were calling it. one man -- one official, i think, verified it as one of the most inhospitable places on earth. >> the "telegraph" obtained a transcript or 54 hours of
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communications between co- pilot before contact was lost. exchanges were routine. we learned from the ceo of malaysian airlines that what was published from "the telegraph" was inaccurate. we did not know what was wrong with the transcript. was it a major inaccuracy or something missed in the transition or the conversion from english to mandarin to english. that translation, you could possibly lose a few things. we hopefully will learn more. >> speaking of that, you know, china, as we said, sending ships to investigate the new mysterious or suspect floating object in the south indian ocean. let's bring in cnn's paula chiu. she is live from beijing. what can you tell us, pauline. anymore? china said this press conference a couple of hours ago or the
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minister there in malaysia said that the chinese would be announcing more on this satellite image in a couple of hours. we have yet to hear anything. we are waiting. have you heard anything yet? >> reporter: we haven't heard anything yet. we have been monitoring the state news channels and state agencies and cctv. here is what we know so far. the satellite image was taken on tuesday, march 18th, at noon time. that is four days ago. you have to keep in mind the drift and the currents and where it might be today. we do know that it is 22 meters by 13 meters. this information is so new, you mentioned that conference out of kuala lumpur at 5:30 local time. it was so new that someone handed a piece of paper to the acting transportation minister. when he read out the dimensions,
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he made a mistake and had to issue a correction after the conference. also, the state news agency here in china, confirmed that the chinese embassy -- >> all right. we obviously have lost audio there with pauline chiou in beijing. we will get more as we cover the breaking news this morning that the chinese satellites found this floating object. let's bring in cnn analyst miles o'brien and mary schiavo. good morning. >> good morning. >> we just had on the professor at m.i.t. john hansman. he was skeptical about the object. 74 feet long and 42 feet wide.
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what is your skepticism? >> i am trying to figure out the piece as a look at the schematics. try to imagine something of that size. where would it come from? i am skeptical. it is floating around in the indian ocean. having said that, it is perfect sense to check this out given its location and the possibility it might have something to do with this incident. i think, you know, we have to proceed and keep a grain of salt handy for this one. >> mary schiavo is on the phone with us as well. mary, as we continue to watch these pieces come in, you know, the satellite images and this is now to count, the fourth object that in the scope of the last 15 days since the flight has appeared and has been found, do you have any concerns or fears
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that we're just on a wild goose chase and maybe we're looking in the wrong area that we have abandoned other areas that deserve some attention? >> well, no, for a few reasons. yesterday or two days ago, in mar-sat, the company that released the images out of great britain. they released information two days after what would have been the crash of the plane if it crashed in that area. that something was there. that there was something there in the area where the debris would have migrated from. i think they are searching in the right place and regardless of what the size of the image they have, i agree, this sounds a little big. previous sightings would have fit a wing size. these are composite wings and sealed on the inside. remember there is a fuel tank. i was hoping it was a wing.
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this may be too big for that. i think they are looking in the right place. i think the northern route, there were two ways this plane could have gone. i think the northern route is impossible. we know it did not go through thai air space. this seems it could be a conglomeration of items. with the wiring and a lot of times on crash sites, it is all balled together. that's possible. >> let's pull that thread, miles. i have so many people who are sending us questions through twitter and we have been asking or viewers to submit their questions to us for days. they identify all the things in and on board a plane that would float. do you suspect that when the debris field is found, it will be more than just a piece of one wing? wouldn't you expect we see seats and several pieces of the plane? luggage even? >> yeah. obviously the seat cushions are obviously the first thing that comes to mind. i don't know if you recall in
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the case of the air france crash a few years ago in the atlantic, one of the big pieces that was found was the vertical stabilizer. that was a piece of composite which has a honeycomb structure inside which has pockets. that is something that could float. the 777 is virtually all an aluminum. it is a different kind of thing. wings are designed to carry fuel. would they float? you know, that's hard to say because of the way the fuel gets in and out of the wings and that is a place the water can get in. what pieces float? that is hard to predict. you know the engines will not float. it is possible the control surfaces that mary alluded to would float made of composite. something this big, what would be that big that would float? >> there are, mary i want to go back to you with this, there is
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talk this incident could prompt changes as to what's on a plane and resources to find it. they are talking about cameras in the cockpit and real-time streaming of communication and flight information. i think i read something where you were saying those just -- that airlines are so cost sensitive they would not consider those things. do you think this mystery, this vanishing flight that has everybody baffled. how can we lose an entire plane? will this change that at all? >> you know, i would have thought that september 11th, 2001 would have changed this issue. the streaming data from the black boxes and from the plane either on board video or continuous data flow, that was discussed way back in 2001. if you recall, the hijackers there turned off the transponders in the two planes
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that hit the world trade center, the black boxes were completely destroyed. having this information streamed so we know where the planes are and what is going on and a missing plane or a hijacked plane or stolen plane or mystery plane like this would be no longer. here we are now, 13 or 14 years later and having the same discussion. the reason the airlines don't do it is they say it costs too much money for one. for two, the regulators have not required it. if we have the change, the federal aviation administration for the u.s. and the civil aviation for the world will have to mandate it. they have to say do it or they won't. >> there is one other piece of news that came out in the news conference this morning that miles, i want to get your response to and thoughts on quickly. that the malaysian airline ceo said the transcript published by the u.k. "telegraph" was not
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accurate. we had pilots here on cnn for the past 15 days. when the transcript came out yesterday, a few said the last phrase, all right, good night, would not be in coordination with the civil aviation authority. what is your thought on that? >> as far as the transcript, we have no way of verifying that transcript. we don't know what their sources were. i said it repeat edly. what i would like to do is listen to those air traffic control conversation was the crew. now that last statement from the crew, "all right, good night." it is slightly off the norm because he did not repeat the frequency he was assigned. saying good morning is oknight.
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there was frustration building in the cockpit because he was probably trying to get the controllers to respond to him about the altitude. i think he wanted a different altitude. by the time he said good night, he was not getting good service from air traffic control and i think it was a terse moment. that is based on the transcript that we think is not accurate. he might have just been frustrated. >> hearing the inflection and hearing the time between all this would help in determining what the intent was by saying all right, good night. miles o'brien and mary schiavo, thank you both. >> thank you. >> coming up on "new day," more news as the malaysian authorities will announce the breaking news we have been covering this morning. hopefully more details about the suspicious floating object in
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the item found in the southern indian ocean six days ago by australian officials. you see the coordinates here, 44 degrees and 57 seconds. that is where it was on march 18th. the waters are so rough, who knows where it is now. >> it is not just because this is a huge area to scour, but alexandria field has more on this in new york on what this could be. alexand alexandra, what are you learning? >> reporter: a small window of opportunity opening in one of the world's most remote and punishing regions. 20 foot waves forecast to subside this weekend as
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searchers scour a swath of the south indian ocean in the search for flight 370 and the 239 passengers. >> it is the most remote spot. >> reporter: 1,200 miles off the coast of australia, the search can last a few hours at a time before pilots have to head back and refuel. >> that is in the middle of nowhere. they are working with weather patterns that can hamper any operation or sea operation. >> reporter: a nasa simulation shows currents and turbulence if the two floating objects spotted by satellite spotted by plane, the currents could push farther apart. some oceanographers say this could be anywhere in a 15,000 square mile area such as belgium. the sea floor sits more than 9,000 feet down.
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deeper than most submarines go. the mid ocean ridge rising from it making the search more difficult. >> the depth is a factor here. describe what it would look like down there. >> like the rocky mountains. >> it is so challenging and for so many, it is hard to wrap your mind around what they are doing and thousand difficult it is. >> reporter: if the objects in the satellite images can be fou found, if they are from flight 370 and if they can zero in on the data recorder, finding it among the peaks and valleys could be even harder still. >> if it is in a deeper channel, that is more of a challenge. >> reporter: and oceanographers say it is thousands of feet deep which is why it would be hard to here a ping from the data
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of course, we are monitoring this morning's breaking news. the possible floating object from the satellite image from the chinese authorities. this is dated march 18th. this is where it was four days ago. we want to get to one of the theories people are talking about as to what happened to the flight 15 days ago. >> 15 days ago. cnn's martin savidge is live with us from the flight simulator from ontario. martin, i think you are taking on a theory a lot of people question, but pilots say it's
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possible? martin, can you hear us? >> all right. we are having audio problems. hopefully we can get that fixed. martin savidge is taking on a zombie theory. >> it is hard to imagine this plane would just be flying for seven hours with nobody at the controls. who knows what would have happened to the passengers at that point. so, i think we have martin with us now. martin? martin, can you hear us? >> reporter: here we are in the cockpit and in this simulation, guys, we decided we are -- the flight that took off from kuala lumpur, that's malaysian airlines 370. we loaded everything in on that particular pligflight. we are a 777 just as they were
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with the fuel and weight. at the night they flew, it was as they got to cruise altitude. about 35,000 feet. this is the point, and i love to demonstrate this, where you get to do this, which is that very famous everyone knows sound of the seatbelt sign has now come on. it is also you can simulate this. >> ladies and gentlemen, the flight attendants -- >> you get the announcement from the flight crew. it is saying we have reached cruise altitude. you can relax. this was probably the time that we began to see the first problems with the aircraft. should be the safest time. >> the most uneventful time of flight. >> reporter: but we think this is the time things had gone wrong. it may have started with something like this. that's a fire alarm. it would be an indication that there was a fire somewhere on board the aircraft. the readout on the screen would
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tell the pilots what was on fire. in this scenario, say it is a fire in the cargo hold. something is burning. smoke might start filling the cockpit. then, the pilots would communicate. we would then decide, you takeover the aircraft and the mission is to start turning the plane. remember, there was the sharp turn. turning the plane back to where we took off from or in the direction of the nearest airport. alarming would go off because we are descending quickly. we try to do this and try to put the oxygen masks on. the smoke could be building. it could suddenly be hard to see the controls and hard to breathe. in this scenario, at some point, we eventually, though, would level off. the plane would come back under some kind of control and eventually we could get the plane back on automatic pilot, but that is it.
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because we become overwhelmed by smoke and we pass out and we are unconscious and the passengers are somehow incapacitated. now we are on course headed south with a load of how much fuel? >> about seven hours worth of fuel. >> that means we could head down to where the debris was found and this plane would fly by itself. a ghost plane, a zombie plane, some say a plane without a brain. >> my goodness. martin savidge and mitchell, thank you so much. we appreciate the information. it seems far fetched, but a lot of people are saying anything is possible. >> it has happened in the past with other flights that crashed. what also seems like an impossible task, searching for the jetliner, in an ocean. it went from the south china sea now to the indian ocean. especially when this is an area considered one of the most
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>> announcer: this is cnn breaking news. take a deep breath. you made it to saturday. i know we are working for you here this morning. i'm christi paul. >> i'm victor blackwell. breaking news by the hour now in the search for flight 370. let's get you a quick update on what we learned. china says it has new satellite images showing and you see it here, a large object floating in the southern indian ocean. dimensions here are 74 feet by
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43 feet. the chinese are planning to send ships to find it. >> the air search for the pieces of debris spotted six days ago is wrapping up its third day as well. no signs of that debris at this point. we are talking about six flights, four military, two corporate jets have been involved today. two australian flights did come back and say they did not see anything of high significance, but we don't believe they were in in particular area because this satellite image you are seeing just coming from chinese officials a couple hours ago. >> 26 countries involved in the search and investigation. a national flotilla in the search in the indian ocean. british, australian, malaysian and chinese ships on the way. >> if the debris spotted by satellites found and it is determined to be part of the plane, in this remote location,
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what's next? an ocean search is a dauntig task on a good day. then add to the area, one of the most remote places on earth. take a look at the flight path they believe the flight took here. we're talking about deep, deep ocean, very strong winds, powerful currents and turbulent water. logistically, to search this area, it is a nightmare. there is no land wrapped around and nothing to buffer the storms that hit that area every day. >> let's get context from the people who know the area best. randy who is the cnn analyst and the senior manager at metron solutions. i want to start with you and can you explain to us and it is hard to put in context the challenges of the search and especially considering the conditions. >> it is good to be with you
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this morning. thanks to have the chance to talk about this. everyone is focus right now on finding the debris field and that's the first step. this is a long drawn out process . if this has been part of a debris field. it is not the end of the search, it is the beginning of the search. the next steps required are to carefully and me methgo in and track to where they are being picked up. to look at the current and weather patterns and backtrack from where the objects are found on where the plane impacted the ocean if that is what happened. once we have a better idea of where the plane likely impacted, it is going to listen for the underwater locator beacons. those put out a high frequency
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pulse at 37.5 kilohertz. because of the way the physics work and the ocean, the range is only two or three miles. two miles of ocean depth, you have to get a ship out there and deploy the sensors and tow it across the sea floor and listen for the objects. in the best scenario, it is out finding the pingers before the batteries die. they are rated at 30 days. 30-to-35 days is what the manufacturer says we should expect out of that. that is the scenario we went through with air france 447. my company was involved with the french bea and putting together the pieces so we know where to focus the search. the laborious search happens to
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map the ocean bottom to look for debris and features to eventually find that aircraft. >> randy, i want to go to you next. if the plane did go down in the water, the angle at which it goes down makes a big difference in the way the plane will break apart and the debris will scatter. correct? when we look at the image today from the chinese satellite and we're seeing one image of an object, would you believe that we should be seeing more than that? >> at this point, christi, i would say probably not. >> do you expect this, considering the dimension, 72 feet by 43 feet would be part of a 777? >> you know, it is really hard to tell. i was listening to the broadcast
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earlier and mary schiavo and the other person you were interviewing said that it is really hard to find what part of the aircraft would be this size. i have to agree with them. >> captain gurley, i wonder if this -- we talked about -- if this is part of 370, but considering the pattern thus far. if this is not, are the resources there in the south indian ocean now to cover this in a reasonable amount of time? i wonder at what point does someone like you say we have to either dramatically increase the resources or scale back because we are looking for something without a starting point? >> well, that's a great point. that, in fact, is one of the issues they are dealing with. there is a mathematical technique theory that we apply to the problems. what that tells you to do, a mathematical way to go in and look at how certain you are of
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each piece of information so you don't -- the term is don't play little kid soccer. have all of the assets run to one spot and run to another spot. what i hope the australia yns a doing, they are using the satellite information. if they are not part of an aircraft, then we don't get misled and we continue to search the area. it is a very broad area. more ships, more aircraft, would always help. it is encouraging the number of countries that have assets en route to that area, but it is a daunting task they are facing right now. >> randy padfield and captain van gurley, thank you so much for your insight. >> good to have you with us. >> thanks. >> sure. still to come, the u.s., as we shift gears here, we are waiting right now to hear from chinese officials. they released the satellite and
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and the crisis in ukraine is anything but over. this weekend, international monitors sent by europe security authority are on the way to ukraine. >> and this, of course, the day after president putin officially made crimea part of russia. the security cooperation are keeping an eye on the human rights situation on that region for six months. we know we have been told they will not enter crimea physically. >> our erin mcpike is at the white house.
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erin, president obama will meet with leaders of the g-7, now minus russia from the g-8. what is on their agenda? >> reporter: victor, president obama said on thursday when he meets with european leaders, he wants to discuss, quote, more severe actions that they could take against russia especially signals russia is building up a larger military presence that could move through the southern and eastern border of ukraine. a senior administration official told cnn's jake tapper just yesterday, we are very concerned, but it is by no means certain, bigger isurge into ukraine. it could move quickly into ukraine without detection. that is why there is a lot of concern. russia is simply saying their military moves on merely
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military exercises. however, susan rice, national security adviser, cast some doubt on that yesterday. >> it is not clear. russia has stated they are intending military exercises given their past practices, we are watching it with skepticism. >> reporter: now susan rice also said yesterday, that there are initial signals that sanctions are working and ratings agencies have downgraded russia's credit worthness in the last 24 hours. there are signs that things seem to be working, but this is a more tense situation than a week ago, christi and victor. >> we know the security cooperation monitors will arrive soon. do we know what their specific role is going to be? >> reporter: obviously, they want to protect ukrainians in the region, especially now there are so many troop movements.
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as you mentioned earlier, they can't go directly into crimea. this is something, of course, president obama will be discussing with european leaders in the coming week. >> all right. erin mcpike at the white house. thank you. still to come, more on this morning's breaking news out of beijing. a chinese satellite spotted a floating object. a suspicious floating object. could this be part of flight 370? more after this. when you have diabetes like i do,
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>> announcer: this is cnn breaking news. the breaking news this morning, investigators have possibly a new lead in the search for the missing flight 370. beijing says a chinese satellite, here is the image, spotted a large object floating in the south indian ocean. >> let's face it, it could be a huge discovery, but let's keep in mind, if this is part of the missing jet, it is no guarantee to get close to the locator beacon. the batteries on the beacon are at 50% right now. >> michael, a retired aviation consultant joins us with more. i want to start with the object. good morning to you first. we have seen several items picked up by satellites from
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various countries. false alarms thus far. consider the dimensions, 74 feet by 49 feet. does that add or decrease your skepticism at this point? >> i'm not more skeptical. i'm very hopeful this is a piece of the aircraft if it is in the ocean. that will allow us to start working on finding the aircraft itself. the specialists, the oceanographers will start their job and try to pinpoint the area where the aircraft may be to include the flight data recorder and cockpit recorder. as you said, it only has 30 days total battery power to send out its signal. the signal goes two miles under water. we are halfway through that battery at this time. >> okay. this is what i think people are finding interesting as well. this is about 2,000 miles off
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the coast of australia where this was found. it is only 75 miles from other objects that were found by australian authorities six days ago. does that give you hope that these three parts could be related in some way? >> absolutely does. it definitely gives me hope. we need to find this airplane somehow. we need to find the recorders and we need to figure out what happened in this incident. i think a lot of new things will come from this. anytime you look at a globe, where you see an ocean, anywhere from 100 to 200 miles off the coast of an ocean, it a non-radar environment. when you are in that space, the only way any type of air traffic controller knows where you are if you are not in radar contact, is voluntarily through us, the pilots, providing position reports. those position reports can come
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through data links or verbally over radios. there are systems out there now, it is called afis. automated flight information system. it can give you real time tracking on where an aircraft is. this incident here will probably lead to dramatic changes in the industry. >> you told our producers, once we get the flight data recorders, there could be silence. there could be very little, if anything. elaborate on that, if you would. >> sure, i will. the flight data recorder, if recovered, will have the entire flight on it. that will not be a problem. the cockpit voice recorder is a different thing. the cockpit voice recorder records continuously throughout
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the flight on a micro chip. it records all conversations in the cockpit. the problem is it is on a two-hour closed loop. you will only get the last two hours of the flight. with some of the theories out there about what happened, the possibility exists that the cockpit voice recorder may have nothing but silence on it. >> now, i want to get your opinion on something because you mentioned this whole flight could prompt some changes in the industry. one of the things that i know the ntsb had wanted for years according to the research i read, they wanted to implement cameras in the cockpit and real-time streaming of flight information. as i understand, pilots say that is an invasion of their privacy. does their invasion of privacy, do you think as a pilot, get trumped when we see a situation like this?
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>> well, i'm all in favor of streaming data, real-time aircraft positioning. however, having a camera in the cockpit, that's a tough question. there are a lot of things that happen and privacy issues and all sorts of issues. it is like having doctors be videotaped for everything they do. they probably would push back also. that's a difficult question. that one i don't think would happen. however, the real-time tracking of aircraft is what he's really important here. >> okay. retiredfortune, thank you for being with us. >> thank you. >> we will see you back here at 10:00 eastern. we will have more on missing flight 370. >> coming up is michael smerconish after this quick break. i reckon a storm's a brewin'.
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good morning. i'm michael smerconish. first off, we want to get to latest news on the missing malaysian flight 370. a 74 feet long and 43 foot wide object was found in the southern indian ocean. ships are headed in the direction now. we know in the same area, a cyclone warning is in effect. that is going to make the search difficult for the ships and planes in the area. we will keep you updated throughout the hour.
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