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authorities. they say it showed normal routing all the way to beijing. we are covering every single apgle angle of this for you. so let's get right to it for you. yes and absolutely they are understanding that they have a tough task ahead of them.
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we got a chance to talk to the lieutenant commander and see the plane. >> motivation air crew recognize the gravity of the situation. they are going out to give people closure. >> looks like a passenger plane but not at all. >> it looks like the systems that we have on. >> we call the truck portion of the airplane. it is a 347. it is stern at thousands of miles of ocean and it can be difficult. everything looks the same. it can be. if you think about the winds
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flow around the earth without interruption. it is part of the job to go out and keep looking until you find it. >> and the question is of course. will they be able to find it. conditions before tough according to that squadrant commander. at times don, the water looks like a giant washing machine. you can imagine how tough it is for them. they are set to take to the skies again in one hour. appreciate that. i want to run these developments by our cnn analysts. pay lot and cnn aviation analyst miles o'brien is also with us. let's talk about the aircraft communications and reporting sis tell. the malaysian government said
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the last transmission showed nothing unusual. new orlea normal routing all the way to beijing. we are hearing that it is normal. it makes more sense than what we heard before. no one could reconcile the fact that they had the 12 minute gap to the left. it was programmed in. now we know not and then the 12 minutes of no reports of problems difficulties why they were deviating their route to beiji beijing. now that we learned that this was not programmed in things make more sense. when you are doing an investigation you have to have things make sense.
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and now the pieces of the puzzle start to fit better. >> do you agree with the significance of this? >> i totally agree. this is the most significant development. and shame on the authorities to allow that as long as it did. >> there is no evidence that these pilots did anything wrong. when a plane crashes the butler is the pilot. and in this case we should scale back our discussion about pilots doing anything wrong. miles brings up a good point. i was thinking the same thing. >> mary, why the information we have heard so many different versions. this isn't the first time that authorities have contradicted
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themselves. >> by having so many theories that this issue this one, 12 minute gap of knowledge and no communications that have it all programmed ip. they had to have a safety. you pick another airport less than a certain number of miles away. and now at least for me it makes sense. there was not one shred of evidence about these piles. i worked the 9/11 cases for 11
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years. it was to keep a low profile. you don't learn how to post things on videos, on youtube. these did not fit the profile. >> i want to move onto the objects spotted. >> so does this completely blowout this whole northern arc scenario that we have been hearing about? >> miles? >> it makes sense to me. heat he he's heading to the nearest landing field.
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does this blow that out? >> i agree completely. the day that thailand said that they did not enter thai air space for me. the northern route was over. you can't -- is this new object that was spotted is this big news? >> i think we will hear this in the coming days. >> so many satellites are trained as they should be and we'll have lots of reports in the coming days. the poor flight crews searching that is real hard. we'll see you later on in the broadcast. stand by. imagine losing a family member. i'm going to talk to a son who is still looking six decades later. but next. why my next guest thinks there
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>> we are going to continue to cover it until we get some answers. today's update, does that change
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anything for you, does that change your theories you say the plane flu souew south. this is a different set of data. we have facts or things that are close to facts. and then in frences that we draw from the facts. some of those can be changed as new information comes in. this doesn't change that the probability comes from the south. but the new information that you are referring to as it comes over the past week, we know that it went over the western tip of indonesia. they are saying now that it was
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normal to be routed to beijing. everyone i spoke with said it throws it out of the window for the most part. that, i don't see how that in frence can be drawn. >> so the first day this happens, remember we were talking about the authorities as they were releasing information about this. and what is taking them so long. even more contradictory now. do you have faith in the information coming from the authorities? >> like you said. i have been skeptical all of long. i'm not sure exactly what that tells us or whether it is accurate information or whether it is in interpreted. i don't know if i would rule out the arc part. i would call it a simple turn to
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get to the airport and now with the new information that was unbelief avable to me that it w updated into their entry point. i mean i have an explanation for that one too. does this update tell you anything knew about the pilot's actions? it had to be the pilot or co-pilot's actions. nepharius i have heard that word so muff. >> yeah, it tells me that the captain was being a captain. the captain does the communications and now it is back to the captain doing the right thing. i believe that all along.
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i'm open to the nepharius situation. i see the captain getting this airplane under cone troll. >> what is the biggest misconception you have about this mystery now. >> i think the conception that this is anything but an intensional pilot action can be ruled out. i understand why a pilot in a burning plane would want to turn to the nearest airport. we know that this plane was on one of those two arcs. >> that is provided that data is correct and i'm still not convinced that it s even if it is i've got an explanation for
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that. >> there is no time like the present. >> you are running out of time. >> you know, i hate to use the terminology we have been using it here the ghost plane it is where these pilots are the problem is developing perhaps through something burning or something they see components starting to shout down that get them to a checklist and he is rr responsable and he does that and now he smells something. and now it could be the cookies that they are burning in the back. and then, if the smoke starts, then we realize it is time to
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put on the oxygen masks and that is what you do first. and then you establish what you have in the cockpit situation. you go to a emergency type situation and part of it could be to start down they are on oxygen and stressed out and the cockpit is a bad, visible situation and they are breathing oxygen under pressure now. you are going to bring that tank down quickly. and now the toxic fumes overtake them. they are heading for a diversionary airport and the plane flies forever. they can't get down to where they open it up. that might have explained if that is correct, the trip down to 5,000 feet.
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>> that seems like the more logical information for all of us. do you have a twitter account yourself? >> i do, i don't utilize it. your jacket has a twitter account that has lots of followers. i thought it was real until i realized it was just a thing. for on flight 370. first a search for survivors in washington state as a deadly land slide levels everything in it's past. next some of the rescuers have to be saved. a big meeting when we land, but i am so stuffed up, i can't rest. [ male announcer ] nyquil cold and flu liquid gels don't unstuff your nose. they don't? alka seltzer plus night fights your worst cold symptoms, plus has a decongestant. [ inhales deeply ] oh. what a relief it is.
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>> reporter: thousands of pro russian residents marched urging for a referendum so they could split off and march against russia the president is to depart in washington a few hours from now. the first stop, the president is to meet with g-7 leaders there. his message will remain the same when he gathers wednesday with european leaders in belgium. emergency crews are hitting a number of roadblocks as they search for survivors of a deadly land slide. just hours ago jay ensley flew over the area near seattle. rescue helicopters may not have
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found any survivors and the muddy conditions have left ground operations at a stand still. we suspect that there are people out there. but it is far too dangerous to get them out there on that mud flow. 7 people were injured three others killed. rainfall has made the region right for a series of land slides. jennifer gray looks at the weather. >> we have been talking so much how california has been so dry over the last couple of months xg the opposite has been going on the pacific northwest. the jet stream has been riding far to the north and bringing the storms that normally roll on shore up to the west. it has been giving them rain that they normally see. the rain is experiencing one of
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we have a significant update from malaysian authorities they say the last transmission which transmit s technical data showe normal routing all the way to beijing. another day of investigation is about to begin. what can we expect today especially with the news about
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french satellite images. >> well don, you know everybody is hanging onto every word that comes out to the search prag operation and press conferences. we have this 4th object. it has been spotted by the french satellite. it is around 2,300 kilometers towards australia and land. around 200 kilometers away from the original objects that were spotted f spotted. we had the other object that was spotted by the chinese satellite. we have these four if you like from 2000 away from australia. you know are they related to
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flight 370? every effort that you say is thinking made to get out of their location. we have cycling heading to the area. we have heard the people heading out on those flights describing it as being in a washing machine because of the winds. because of them trying to get to those locations, trying to locate those objects if they are still in that place where they were spotted on the satellite days ago, don. we have to ask you about this. 239 people onboard and we must keep that top of mind. what is ahead today for those families?
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we only had the first meeting a few days ago and we are two weeks in now. they are getting that i have to say, don. we have had a lot of misinformation likely because authorities have explained to me what they wanted to try and do is give that information as soon as they got it.
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we know that malaysian authorities have said that the plane was still bound at 107 for beijing. they want to know more about that as sunrises here. don? >> appreciate you reporting. our thoughts go out to the families. >> it is one of the biggest mysteries ever. a plane and it's passengers disappeared over lake michigan. crews are searching for that plane. six decades later. keep that in mind. and their families still waiting for closure that is next. busine. when possibilities become reality. with centurylink as your trusted partner, our visionary cloud infrastructure and global broadband network free you to focus on what matters. with custom communications solutions and responsive, dedicated support, we constantly evolve to meet your needs.
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somewhere over lake mesh miichi. i was awakened by my mother crying. she said my father was gone and would not be coming back. it was america's worst afevation disaster at that time. the plane was never found. the cause never determined. the 58 passengers never recovered. it is hard because you don't have something to hold to. like a funeral or a casket or a grave. i was certain that he was wandering around the streets of chicago with amnesia and he would won done day realize wher was and come home >> author has interviewed more than 200 family members of the flight. >> they don't understand that it really happened. it is hard to conceive of an
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accident killing a loved one if you don't have their body. the mystery of what happened to flight 2501 is a misstory that has flight these people for now 64 years. the team has been hunting lake michigan for the plane's debris. >> finding the plane would provide the final answers. her mother never remarried and asked that her ashes be spread at the crash site in lake machine mish so that she could find her husband. the site marks the loss of all aboard the fateful flight. the living still coping. it is an erie thing wondering
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and not knowing what actually happened. >> although most of us are riff o otted she can't bare to pay attention or watch the news. she said it is too close and too familiar. >> thank you very much. joining me now. valerie the author of "fatal crossing". we heard from darlene who lost her father and said she couldn't bear to watch the news. have you felt that as well? >> oh, yes. every word she said struck home. when i heard about this. my wife mentioned it and in a later broadcast i went out and saw the people crying.
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my heart went out to them but that with the search efforts brought everything home to the point where i had to walk out of the room. and this was 64 years later. what do you say to the families? >> well, at i would say this. we learned about the loss of the plane and it was fairly soon that we knew what had happened in a general way that the plane had gone down in the lake although we don't know where and how it happened. but so the misstory ystery of t still out there for these families, i say to them. you have to have courage. you have to believe in your self you have to have the confidence that things will turn out smehow all right. you have to not give up hope,
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and in the final analysis, don't give up. >> don't give up in what way? >> well, my father gave up. when my mother died he blamed himself for it and he fell apart. the rest of his life he was a very unhappy man and it was very hard for me not to be the same way but i'm not the same way. it has affected your family all of these years. >> so, valerie, what really drew us to this story was the fact that it has been 42 years for this crash. when you look at the size of lake michigan. we say it is like an ocean in the middle of the united states it is like this cup of tea.
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it is a small body of water and 64 years later. we are still searching for the r wreckage of that plane. when i started interviewing some of the men who were involved in the search activity. we could only narrow it down to 1,000 square miles. we still have farther to go. this is a small target. we know it would be a broken up debris field based on the debris that was pulled from the surface of the water. it is a small target in a medium sized pond. >> i loved in chicago for a while. this is legend. people talk about this all the time.
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what inspired you to get involved with this? >> we are a small group of people that search for ship wrecks. we thought we found a number of ship wrecks. we thought the information might lead us to the spot on the lake. we came upon all kinds of other information. personal from the northwest and the families. big kaufman found me and we got to talking and he encouraged me to find other people and the information was so striking that it prompted the writing of a
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book. what is the lesson in it for all of us? i don't know the answer to that bun. all i know is that you have to accept the situation and move on with your life. life is worth living regardless. >> thank you, sir.
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>> don? >> thank you bill, thank you valerie, i appreciate it. >> thank you. >> next we are going to explain why it is not as far fetched as it sounds. i reckon a storm's a brewin'. reckon so. reckon you gotta hotel?
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while planes and boats are scouring the indian ocean for flight 370, a small number of people think the airliner could be somewhere else entirely like sitting on a runway, maybe in asia. police say a skilled pilot could make the plane seem to vanish by closely following another airliner. what sounds like a high-tech magic trick, right? experts say it is possible. chad myers joins me now from atlanta to explain why this theory isn't as crazy as it sounds. we've heard, we've been talking about this. chad, you're going to demonstrate. okay. explain it to us, will you? >> a guy named keith ledgerwood is who came up with this and put it on twitter. i've been following it ever since. trying to get ahold of imarsat, too. the plane leaving kuala lumpur. halfway to its way point. turns off all its stuff so you
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can't see it anywhere. heads to a different point over here. in the meantime a different plane has left singapore flying to that same waypoint right here. the two planes fly in tandem, one on top of the other or slightly behind. very close to make only one ping on the radar. one blob on the radar as it leaves here and flies all the way up here. we don't see mh-370 because we're getting pings or squawks back from singapore flight 68. is it crazy? yes. is it possible? absolutely. the planes get underneath each other. they do this all the time. usually about 1,000 feet separation up and down. if it gets close enough, you wouldn't see the plane on the ground and 68 wouldn't see 370 because its transponder is off. because the transponder is off, there'd be no way to know it was there. if it snuck up from behind, that's the possibility. what do we know? what do we know and where can we go from here? let's draw it out from here. we don't know where 370 went. all we know is it ended up on this line somewhere.
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that's it. that's all we know. we do know where 68 went. it would have pinged here, here, here, here, here, and here. let's put those on the map. we'll show you what it looks like. the first ping would look like this. right there. about an hour from when they would have merged. another hour later. another hour later. and another hour later. on up, on up, on up, on up. and up here into almost the area here. take a look at this line, though. this is the blue line. this would have been 68's last location at 8:00 in the morning or 8:11. it is not on the same red line as our flight 370. so somewhere, i don't know where. here, here, or here. this plane would have had to have breaken off. 370 would have had to get out of the shadow, turn to the right and land somewhere on the red line. that's the theory keith has put off. you can look at it. go to my web page or my twitter handle. find it as well. i have links to it. it sounds insane, don. until we get numbers, until we
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get these pings, if these are truly right, we won't know from imarsat whether this actually mirrors what the pings look like from 370 and 68. if the pengs aren't exactly separated like they are here, then this is debunked, didn't happen. right now we still don't know. >> @chadmyers? m-y-e-r-s. go there. also you can hashtag your questions to #370qs. chad will get on it. looking at your twitter questions. thank you, chad. appreciate that. here's another question. is an old satellite system with a new purpose, is it next? how using a 20-year-old network could make finding missing flights a lot easier in the future.
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the there's one question that's been bugging all of us, it's this. how do you lose a plane.
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my phone can tell me where i am at any moment. right? why isn't there a device to do the same with an airliner? the answer to fixing this problem could already be in the sky. a satellite network called iridium. brent larson is here to explain how this could help. cnn technology analyst and editor of techbyte.com. explain iridium. >> it's interesting. it was a cell system they set up back in the late '90s so you could make cell phone calls from remote regions of world. they're being upgraded over the next couple of years so equipment could be put on airplanes so when an airplane is over water, which as we now know very clearly when it's over water it's almost untrackable, and this system will actually let that -- >> worldwide? >> worldwide. no matter where they go from pole to pole and even over the oceans they will be completely trackable in realtime. >> how long -- i mean, it's an old system. >> it's an old system. >> but they're updating it?
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>> they're actually updating it. >> how long? >> it does require some launching of new satelliting. they're saying from 2015 to 2018 all -- it's 66 satellites that float in a geostationary orbit that will make this a possibility. >> the network, though, is 20 years old. why hasn't this been done before? >> you know, it's a stall on the part of all of the governments, and there's always a new technology. but this stuff is obviously very expensive. the initial system was in the billion dollar range. so that's something that, you know, when you divvy that up even amongst airlines they don't want to pony up the cash for that. >> when you think about it, whatsapp sold for -- >> you took an old cell system and piggy backed a tracking system on to it. why not piggy back another idea to spread the costs further and make it less expensive? >> that would seem like the thing to do. it would cost in the billions of
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dollars, if you keep having accidents, even if it's one so often how do you put a price on life? you really can't. thank you. brent larson, see you throughout the evening on cnn. we'll be live for you until 9:00 p.m. eastern. then back after that from 10:00 to midnight as well. the next hour of the "cnn the next hour of the "cnn newsroom" starts right now. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com you are in the "cnn newsroom." it's the top of the hour. i'm don lemon. all this hour we're fast forwarding to the week ahead tackling the unanswered questions about malaysia airlines flight 370. our questions in just a moment. first i want to get you caught up on the very latest on this story. it's a dawn of a new day. we are now at 17 straight days of nothing. 17 straight days of nothing. no emergency pings. no radio contact. lots of hopeful sightings and fruitless searches. we are no closer to knowing where this