they did have a satellite image of debris, they're trying to track that, just to be able to eliminate it and say it wasn't that. it was just, you know, garbage, plastic bottles. nothing to do with the plane. >> we appreciate you. thank you very much. i'm don lemon this is a cnn special report, the mystery of flight 370. a few key things are happening at the same time right now. any one of them could finally solve this puzzle and lead searchers to the missing airliner. first, new information tonight about how that jet was traveling when it disappeared from radar screens. a source close to the investigation tells us that according to military radar, the plane suddenly turned left, while dropping more than 20,000 feet in altitude. it was done so quickly that our experts say it must have been intentional maneuver. if we learn why the pilots made that wild move, it could dramatically change the scope and direction of this search.

also, planes are in the air right now and will spend their precious few hours searching here, scanning a section of the indian ocean where some kind of object was spotted from space. u.s. navy aircraft involved in this too. helping me, the best aviation and air safety professionals in this business, and we want to hear from you as well. make sure you post the question to our panel, on twitter, using the #370qs. making things even more intriguing, a new detail from the malaysian officials today seems to conflict with the sharp turn the pilots made that took the plane off course. officials say the last transmission from the boeing 777 showed nothing unusual as the plane was on course for beijing. joining me now, cnn's will ripley in kuala lumpur, malaysia tonight. what more do you know about the last communication from flight 370? >> reporter: well, don, 1:07

a.m., everything was running as normal. the plane was flying to beijing, things seem to be fine. at 1:19, the co-pilot said all right, good night, and then something big happened. but the question is, what exactly. we know the plane took a sharp turn to the west, started heading to the strait of malacca and plunged down to 12,000 feet. why would a pilot do that? aviation experts tell us 12,000 feet is not low enough to avoid radar detection, put it is an altitude that would be standard procedure if there was a problem on the plane where they needed to depressurize the cabin and make it safe for everybody to breathe. and stay alive. 12,000 feet. you can still survive where as you cannot survive at a much higher altitude. here is the big mystery, don. no may day call. why is that? was it too critical the moment where the pilots were doing so many other things or some other reason a question we don't have the answer to right now.

>> will officials make any comment about the drop in altitude? do we know anything about that? >> reporter: nothing official right now on this. this is coming from a source that cnn has spoken to that has close ties to this investigation. but we do know that efforts are focusing more now on this area about 1500 miles southwest of perth, australia, in the south indian ocean. this is where three countries now, australia, china and france say they have satellite images showing possible jetliner debris. we know nasa satellites were in the process of repositioning to get a closer look at this area as well. that will take a couple of days from now. there are search planes up at this hour, the p-3, the p-8, they're out, over this area, looking. so far they haven't found anything. step one, identify this debris via satellite. step two, we need to find it. that hasn't happened yet. >> will ripley, thank you very much. reporting from kuala lumpur. u.s. navy sending a special

listing device to australia to be on stand by if any physical evidence of malaysia flight 370 turns up. navy listening device can help locate pingers from the flight's data recorder. joining us to discuss that is les abend, former 777 pilot and also aviation analyst jeff wise, science journalist. mikey kay, former adviser to the uk minister of defense and mary schiavo, former inspector general for the u.s. department of transportation. les abend, to you first. let's talk about all of this. as they're look for the search now what is this information? what does this change especially when it comes to the pilots' actions? >> well, it says you know, once again, i'm open to any scenarios. i think the data we got from radar and so on has been sketchy

at best f th. if this is indeed true information. i go with a guess -- a gut feel that these people were -- there was a professional flight crew handling an emergency and turning the airplane to divert it and begin a descent. >> i want to bring in my special guest joining me on the phone, u.s. 7th fleet deputy public affairs director officer levy. thank you for taking the time to join us tonight. we know you're very busy. tell us how the towed pinger locater is used to locate emergency pingers. >> well, i want to say as a precautionary measure in the event a debris field is located, we are setting the towed pinger locater down to eight in locating the black box. this is highly sensitive equipment used, towed behind at low speeds on a commercial vessel, down to depths of 20,000 feet, listening for the ping

coming up, the black box, which is going to be critical in helping out the investigation if a debris field is found. >> another question for you, we have you here, what can you tell us about today's search? >> right now, the p-8 and p-3 are actually probably arrived on station now. on station for three to four hours. but as of now, there has been no reports of any finding of anything from the debris field. >> if the u.s. were leading this investigation with the ocean search be drastically different? >> no, i think there is a certain protocol to follow and what they need to do, which is, again, going back to the debris and finding the debris, identifying the debris, secondly they would deploy this hydro phone i just heard can pick up sound, 20,000 feet, which is tremendous. and will be very, very helpful. they do have to follow the

pattern, which is to fist find debris, identify it and get the acoustics, the sound and look for that pinging. hopefully in that area. >> officer levy, explain to our viewers what you're up against here. viewers are sitting at home watching, many don't know the challenges of the ocean, of the seas as you're out there searching. can you explain to our viewers what you're up against. >> well, we're up against -- it is a difficult task. it is an indian ocean, very large area, and we were trying to follow, you know, we go to every lead that is out there. and identified search areas. these are long missions for the crews. they're ten hours. it doesn't include the pre and post flight. it is very daunting and taxing on the crews to find this stuff. but they're doing their best. we're dedicated to the mission

and will keep going as long as we're needed out there. >> lieutenant levy, thank you very much. we appreciate it. good luck to you guys out there. i want to tackle some viewer questions now. i'll ask you this one, this one is from mikey kay. if the plane dropped from 35,000 feet to 12,000, what would have been its fuel range. i'm not sure if you know that. >> it is a great question. i think what we're now seeing at the moment is contradictory reporting. what we're seeing is noncomplementary information. to the point, if the aircraft dropped to 12,000 feet and is heading westbound toward the malacca strait, we know that the lower an aircraft goes, the less efficient it becomes in terms of endurance and what that would do is bring into question whether a boeing 777 could make it down into the area that all this effort is being focused on off the southwestern tip of australia. noncomplementary in that

respect. what i would like to see is try to think out the box and corroborate the evidence we have got in terms of drawing a line back from where the search is going back up to the last transponder ping, looking at how long that would be. probably on the outer bounds of the trouble 7s endurance and it would have to fly close to singapore. it would have to fly over indonesia and indonesian air space. are we getting evidence from them in terms of radar traces. so there is a lot of contradictory evidence going on. i think the sad thing about this is that if we are talking about something now over in the south indian ocean, it makes the credibility of the search in australia -- >> the short answer to the question is it would be double the fuel consumption practically of what it normally would have been to go to beijing at 12,000 feet. >> this is from renononos.

it is a good question now. we have this 12,000 feet or below. if flight was at 12,000 feet flying west over malaysia, would any passenger cell phone still be in the position to register with a gsm mast? >> the person i talked to said it has to be well below 10,000 feet and has to be right over that transmitter. talking about being over the water, not likely. >> one more for maria. does the new info fit in with the shadow plane theory at all? >> that's hard to say. i would think not because it would be so abrupt. the changing in the altitude and the fuel burn would be hard to tuck in, and travel that long route right directly under them and behind them up to europe. i think it is impossible. >> you want to answer that, you said? >> i want to highlight how difficult it is to fly

formation. i've done a lot of formation flying at night, usually night vision goggles. seems out of the bounds of reality for someone to know how to fly in formation. at night as well. without night vision goggles, going off cues like the very smartaircraft. we have formation lights. i think that theory is -- >> it doesn't jive with what we know about the route the plane took. >> great. stand by. up next, a live report from australia where planes lft a couple of hours ago to hunt for clues and look at the weather that waits them when they reach the search zone. pay my bill. phone: your account is already paid in full. oh, well in that case, back to vacation mode. ♪boots and pants and boots and pants♪ ♪and boots and pants and boots and pants♪ ♪and boots and pants... voice-enabled bill pay. just a tap away on the geico app. ♪ huh, 15 minutes could save you 15% or more on car insurance. yup, everybody knows that. well, did you know that some owls aren't that wise.

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plane and the 239 people on it. several high tech search aircraft including one from the u.s. navy left western australia heading for the open ocean. kyung lah live in perth now in australia. that's home base for this search, kyung. do we know if the planes are in the search area yet and will you hear an update from them when they're on this -- on mission, so to speak? >> reporter: yeah, we're not getting those types of details. but if you do the math, from what we have seen over the last several days, we do know that at least some of the planes are there. i can definitely tell you the u.s. navy's p-8 poseidon took off a short time ago. that's when it was scheduled to. this is america's -- one of america's highest tech planes. it is going to do some painstaking searches. this area is a very difficult area. you have to fly four hours down just to get there and then

they'll comb through that area. the split is being divided into two different sections. that's a new tactic. the reason why is they want to try to cover as much ground as possible. why? because the weather is going to take a turn for the worse later today. that area extremely difficult. when i talked to the head of the squadron, he told me when you're looking out, it already looks like a washing machine sometimes. this is very difficult. it is very tough work. and now they have to fight the weather. don? >> kyung lah, thank you very much for that reporting. we'll get back to you, especially if you hear something from the searchers. searchers could use better weather out over the water today as you heard kyung lah say. meteorologist p.j. is here with us now. what are they looking at today? >> today looks like as good of a day we'll see over the next couple of days. the data to take action as far as the search is concerned,

southwest of perth. to the northwest of australia. this region we're watching a tropical cyclone, this is a category 5 equivalent. healthy category 5 cyclone. the reason i show you this first, keep in mind, the two arks where the final satellite ping was detected and we know the search was put in the southern fringe of the southern ark, the region here, that's an area of search taking place as well. the seas, 31 feet high. any sort of search to the northern portion of this southern ark, impeded here today and back down to the south where we have the initial and nearly the focus zoep ne of search at s area. you see colloid see clouds movi. high pressure, typically good news, causing the air to sink, drys the conditions out. unfortunately, it is doing this northeast of an area where a front is coming in. it is impeding the movement of that front, so later on tonight,

being monday night local time, we know the winds will pick up. generally in this region, winds 25 to 40 miles per hour. today and later on tonight, winds increase to 55, 60 miles per hour. the clouds thicken up. white caps a major concern. miles indicating the surge in the area, the wave heights could be 12 to 13 feet. if you're down in the boat, because of airplanes tomorrow, it will be hard to see from above. the for a second you able to see the top and see a lot of white caps and then right back down to the sea level area. maybes it very, very difficult. that's the case for tuesday an maybe early wednesday before conditions improve. >> thank you very much. appreciate that. we have more on flight 370 straight ahead. there is another big story we want to tell you about, a landslide in washington state. we're learning that the death toll has just climbed

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>> reporter: the latest information we have confirmed with the governor's office here is that now eight people are confirmed dead in this mud slide. the number that we were given earlier today was four. we have been monitoring some of the search and rescue operations, basically over scanners listening and talking to officials here to understand what is happening. we can confirm that eight people are confirmed dead. we know the number of unaccounted for still at least 18 people and several people are still in the hospital, we know five people are in the hospital including a 6-month-old boy and 81-year-old man in critical condition. >> talk to us about the challenges of getting to these impacted areas because of just the instability of the ground. >> reporter: well, i think the biggest challenge right now is simply -- the land itself. it is very porous land here in the pacific northwest. you consider the amount of

rainfall they get, your record rainfall in this area over the last month, that's where you have the situations where these bluffs, these cliffs can give way very quickly. that's what happened in this one community. we're talking about an area, that one square mile, land that gave way really in a matter of facts. i spoke with a woman who told me about a friend she came to visit here to shelter. she said her friend was away at work, the family was there, at home, when this came through, and she doesn't know if her family is still there. she doesn't know if if people are still alive. another night of uncertainty for her as are many of the families waiting for answers as the search continues. >> you said eight dead, 18 missing. what about those injured? any word open those injured who have been hospitalized, george? >> the latest information from harvard view medical center, the

main -- the big hospital there in seattle where people were taken, we know five people are there. the states of condition vary. we do know the condition. we know the 6-month-old boy remains in the hospital in critical condition. this 81-year-old man also in that area, in critical condition. we're waiting for more nfbs as we get it. we should keep in mind, as the search continues, as they continue to look over this area over helicopter and if more people are sent to the hospital, the number of hospitalized could grow -- these numbers are changing, you know, by the day, as the rescuers got a better grasp and handle on what goes on in that area. >> george howell, live for us from washington state, thank you so much. eight debt, 18 people still missing. president obama is on his way to the netherlands. first stop in his trip

overseaed. left sunday evening, he's to meet with g-7 leaders at the ha hague tomorrow. his message will remain the same when he gathered wednesday with european leaders in belgium. there are fresh fears that russian president vladimir putin could seize a second chunk of territory in the former soviet bloc. it is a pro russian region neighboring mal dovia. remember, putin first sent troops to ukraine in his word to prote protect russians living in that area. thousands marched in a major city in ukraine's east, urging for a referendum so they could split off too and become part of

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altitude of the plane before it vanished from radar. a source close to the investigation tells cnn that according to military radar records, the plane made a sharp turn, dropped a considerable distance toward the ground. that's important because our source tells us that maneuver was done abruptly and just two minutes. meaning the pilots likely did it intentionally. we'll explore some reasons why they might do that just ahead. and also, we're taking an ans r answering your questions about that missing airplane. go to twitter and use #370qs. >> brendan, here is what brendan says. can large objects in sat rite lyte images be makeshift raft with survivors? would survivors make it this long with no food or fresh water? >> it would be tough. three storms went through the

area. >> let's be honest with the viewers, the water is so cold, so treacherous -- >> not to be completely depressed though. we don't know what happened to the plane. >> we don't know what happened to the plane. but if they're in open water like that -- >> if they're in a raft, it has some supplies on the raft. >> canada tweets, has malaysian airline made any changes to any procedures relating to pilots signing off. >> i can't answer for malaysia airlines. their a professional flight crew. we operate according to iko standards. i would sassume they would do te same thing. >> we have been talking some instances, aboard a life rart,

raft there are some displaoe d s raft there are some displaome s. some storms went through. considering what the searchers are up against, these are people who are in an airplane and who are on ships. and they're having a hard time navigating the ocean. >> that's depressioning. don't forget malaysiania has not given up on the land theory. >> not giving up. we want to be real about this. this is news, not a reality show, it is the news. jim, i want you to take this. if catastrophic failure suspected, why aren't all boeing 777 planes grounded until it is determined. >> i went dwe don't know if thee crashed. i think what is very, very dangerous for us, to assume we have all the answers. i'm concerned about all awl the money being spent over the ocean. we have to be careful about making a decision now too early.

let me see some evidence of the airplane to break it up or whatever else before you make me say anything about that. >> that's a good point. i have another question. i think a follow is warranted on that one. >> in the history of aviation in the us ut.s., we have grounded couple of model ofs of airplanes. one was the d.c. 10 when the engine fell off and that was a -- had to do with the engine mounts and pins and that was necessary to work that out. then the other one, the dreamliner, 787 with two on board fires. it is rare we actually grab them and there was real evidence there was something wrong with the plane. that's why the maintenance regards are so important here. we hope they're reviewing them. >> real quickly, i want to take this one. from grandma ocean.

i heard three people checked in but did not board. what has been covered there. i think that's important. >> what has been ambassadored is they removed the bags from the flight. that's the protocol from the united states and all nations. it is an iko, international civilization guideline or rule. they did do that, they said. >> christine, search crews are looking for the plane or the remnants of that plane. they're basing their searches on satellite images. that has to be us from rating. ? you're looking at potential debris field that has drafted as much as 1,000 miles in 17 days. i think they're being hammered by weather. the crews are incredibly trained and prepared. but they are battling the

elements and fatigue. the ships carry enough fuel and can also run lower than they expect just because they're being forced to wait around and follow this debris more than they may have anticipated. at some point they my pray back and bring in a second ship or third ship because of the fuel consu consumption issues they have. >> the satellite image is the third one we had now. what they're turning up is no equivocal evidence. you get the i'd one out there, a frighter out there, this connell container that could be shipped off ships. i think that's adding to the frustration and, again, posing the question, when do you call it a day and when do you start

sear focusing the search efforts somewhere else. >> a twitter question. i dent know who the name of it is, is it possible to fly as possible as as perth at 12,000 feet. >> i can almost guarantee you they didn't have fuel in the center tanks. i'll have to do some pilot math on this. but i don't think so. i think that's a short answer. i don't. >> as we were sitting here, reporting this, one, 2:00 in the morning, mary schiavo, they first found -- they reported that satellite image off the coast of australia. everyone seemed to think they found something. all they have to do is identify it, get to it. it is not that easy just to fit to it. this isn't like map quest and going to the open ocean and trying to find something.

>> that's right. you two different sets of delays. you have the delay between when they had the image, you know, took the picture, if you will, to put it in layman's terms, and then the searchers get it to ten to four days earlier. a lot of movement can occur in two to four. >> let's talk about this. as we sat there, we had a debrief last night. and we were talking about this story. it is so fa scinating about the radar images they're finding. as we're sitting there, we pull up a globe on our iphones to show the open water and it is just amazing when you look at depp thz of -- miles of mdepth

and currents and what have you. it is going to take a while to find. it could be a refraction of light. is it possible, i would imagine it is, that we would never find because of the conditions this airplane. >> i would say it is a very realistic possibility that will be addressed at a certain point. that's not to say that we're going to give up the comes and put a hydro phone down when we have a debris field iic indicate of the plane crash. how far do we go after that? if it isn't this area, you're looking at depths as shallow as 3500 feet, down 2025,000, 24 how feet. that's that really going to be

an easy task. normally they want to bring up the wreckage. we want to locate the black boxes to get an idea of what happened. then the task of finding the fuselage or more of this wreck and seeing where it lies. what the reasons are, if it is something we can get to and find more answers. i think it is a possibility we will not. we still -- that's just too deep. it is not a recovery -- after certain amount of time will go on. >> there are -- commercial aircraft don't fly over this area. this isn't a route, doesn't go over this waerd. >> correct. this area, south china sea, there is no really -- not heavily trafficked by ships, by air. it is very strange that we're

finding all this activity going on there and hopefully that debris field will lead us to that is accurate. >> i hate to be negative here. but mr. abend, thanks. les abend, thanks to so many of you. do you think in today's technology and the advances we have, you think we will absolutely find this plane? >> i'm optimistic. >> okay. thank you very much. we now know that flight 370 had a dramatic drop in altitude. coming up. we'll take you inside our flight simulator and let you know what that looks like. staying active can ease arthritis symptoms. but if you have arthritis, this can be difficult. prescription celebrex can help relieve arthritis pain and improve daily physical function so moving is easier. because just one 200mg celebrex a day can provide 24 hour relief for many with arthritis pain.

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off, it is warning that we're already turning more than this airplane really should. and you can see by the horizon, there is a very dramatic -- what is the degree of turn here? >> 40 degrees. >> so that's a really sharp turn. now, send it back up straight, put it on auto pilot again. remember, in the information that this source is giving us, it says that turn took two minutes to complete. that is a very long time to make a 90 or 180 degree turn. extraordinary amount of time for this aircraft. in fact, we'll try to give you a sense of what that kind of a o two-minute turn would feel like. you're doing it now. it is barely perceptible. it is slight. you'll get it. but if you're a passenger, once we straighten out, you would not sit here an say this is like something really, really wrong. this is a very subtle, slow turn. it is sharp in that it will deviate you from the course of beijing, eventually.

but the perception that you're, like, banking like in a fighter craft, that's not what the simulator reflects on that. let's go into the altitude. the plane was at 35,000 feet. we say that it drops to 12,000 feet, but that reading on radar was over an hour and 40 minutes. so here is a precipitous drop. let's do a real -- if you threw this over the top and set us down kind of a dive. nose down, again, all the alarms you're getting and bells and whistles warning you you're going way too fast, you are going to overspeed. doubtful they did anything like this. there is the ocean straight ahead. pull it back. remember, if it really was over an hour and 40 minutes, that descent could have been very, very gradual. what we're saying here is that those actions do not indicate emergency. it is not a sharp turn to go to some emergency landing and it is

not necessarily a steep descent to get down for the passengers to breathe. it could have been a slow descent and gradual turn. that's what the simulator tells us. >> you know, they're calling it the shadow theory. in the shadow of another commercial flight. we'll explain why it is not as far fetched as it sounds. [ female announcer ] you get sick, you can't breathe through your nose... suddenly you're a mouthbreather. well, put on a breathe right strip and instantly open your nose up to 38% more than cold medicines alone. so you can breathe and sleep. shut your mouth and sleep right. breathe right. so you can breathe and sleep. save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance.d everybody knows that. well, did you know pinocchio was a bad motivational speaker? i look around this room and i see nothing but untapped potential.

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17 days into the touchdown for malaysia flight 370 and they're no closer to determining what happened or where that plane is. one possibility being looked at now is being referred to as the shadow theory. chad myers lays it out for us. chad? >> reporter: the shadow theory. the shadow theory says flight 370 flew to the northeast, but only to waste time. to turn around and fly back over here in order to catch up with a plane that had left singapore later and that would fly together as one plane on the radar off toward the north and toward the northwest, somewhere up that way. we don't even care about that at this point in time. is it possible? i've talked to a lot of pilots, they say, yes. they have seen the shadow theory work in fact, with other people, bad people, trying to keep ear

drug planes away from other planes or whatever. if you get the planes close enough together, they'll show up as one spot on the radar. and if you get a secondary radar, it squawks sq 368. a 68 doesn't even see 370 because what the transponder off, there is no proximity alert to this plane. if this is turn eed off, that plane doesn't know it. you may never see that plane ever there. is it possible? for right now, yes. it is still possible until we get more pings from inmarsat, the pings, knowing how far away from this spot right there. that's inmarsat satellite, 22,000 miles in space, but at 64.5 degrees east. way above the equator. so we know how far that is. these are all circles. i'll put them in. as we know fou fhow far away th

circles are, we'll know whether that could have been a shadow of 370. there would have been the first ping, one hour after the merge. there is the line. there is the line that could have -- it is parallel to this line. the next hour, then the next hour, then the next hour, and we fly on up toward afghanistan, pakistan and to the north here. there is one ping that doesn't work, and that's the ping here, this blue line, because that's where 68 would have been at 8:11 a.m. but it is not there, so for this to work, 370, malaysia air 370 would have had to turn away, break away and end up on that line up here somewhere, somewhere here. can only go so fast. but the breakaway would have had to occur and somebody on radar probably could have seen it. if they didn't or weren't watching or weren't expecting it at all, this is the theory. it is out there. keith ledgerwood is the author of this, go to twitter and look at his stuff. he s has animations and plots. when we find out from inmarsat

this here didn't happen, with the flight 370, then we'll know this didn't happen, but for now, we don't have that data yet and we have asked. don? >> all right, chad, thank you very much. we're tackling your questions on the mystery of malaysia flight 370. my panel is with me now, including aviation and ocean experts. okay. hash it out. you believe this is completely plausible. you guys are saying no way. you feel completely confirmed and -- go ahead. >> there is so much i need to say here. listen -- >> be brief. >> we have the data. the data, we have it. we reported it on slate on friday. we have data. we have information from inmarsat. do we have the specific pings? no. but this is what the spokesman told me on friday, every ping gets further away, so we know go to my website, it is kind of hard to explain, go to

jeffwise.net, i explained it all. that analysis we saw was great. it was great, but it lacked the data that let us know whether it was plausible or not. we have the data that says it is not plausible. >> hang on. jim, you can beat up on jeff wise. first jim. go ahead, jim. >> i got to tell you, i don't think it is possible. and i don't think it was possible because this is a very, very tricky maneuver. it would take a lot of practice and a pilot with a lot of luck. >> i got 500 hours formation flying. formation joined by day is a tricky maneuver in an agile jet or helicopter. something with momentum of a 777, it is even harder. if you overlay the fact that it is at night, the only night formation i've done, 300 hours flying, senior instructor, very experienced, on night vision goggles, for me this is not a plausible option and not what we should be looking at. it is taking people right down

the wrong route. we should be concentrating on the facts, getting back to whether the transponders and acars has been and focusing on that. this is pie in the sky. >> les? >> orchestrating something -- somebody is on the same route, it might be semiplausible. but the way this scenario was going out, there was a triangulation that had to get drbt airplane had to catch, just too much. >> before i go to mary, jeff is like, one more thing. >> yes. >> one thing i want to say, which is this, people are trying to understand whether a northern route is possible. some say it is impossible because you can't get through so many countries' military radar. it has been done in the past. you can't say this is impossible. is it hard, yes? how is it done? we don't know. >> what is a quick example. >> the israelis flew two 707s through very hostile air space, egypt and sudan, to get to stage

this raid. no one knows how they did it. >> integrated air defense systems in india and iran and pakistan are very, very sensitive and very complex. >> mary schiavo? >> impossible. wake turbulence and fuel starvation. those are your two problems to overcome. >> mary is very -- she's like, weight turbulence and fuel starvation. very decided about that. to christine, i keep reaching for my glasses and i can't find my glasses. christine, let's talk about this one. this one talks about depressurization and what would happen below. this is from neshua, if there is a catastrophic depressurization before the turn, why aren't we searching for cabin degree below the turn? >> well, as i understand it, at the moment now they are potentially looking -- or they will be looking in the south china sea, but they -- looking

initially. i think that's where they originally sent the search crew out. there was no debris that was discovered earlier on in that area. and so they have been able to find debris further south. this is why we're concentrating in this area. i think they have been looking for debris on the ocean and, again, these radar images that maybe several days old at this point is what they have to go on. i'm sure that there will be more coming in. and you have to follow the leads. i think there is no choice. they're doing what they can do at this point. >> it is very interesting to me that, you know, here we are, going into another monday, another week, and still we don't know where this plane is. that's the big question, where the plane is. i have ten seconds. >> no distress call, nothing on the transponder, and if it was on military radar, the fact it was descending rapidly to 12,000 feet would raise my suspicions. >> there are planes out look now, boats out looking now,

trying to scour the ocean for any sign of debris, satellites are being moved to look for debris as well and we should remember 239 people on board and that's why this is so important and we'll continue to cover it. i'm don lemon. thank you for joining us. good night. on this episode of "death row stories," a terrifying crime. >> the victim was so innocent. >> a condemned man fights for his life. >> no one listens to a convicted murderer. >> until a priest seeks for the truth. >> my heart drops to the pit of my stomach. >> it's the biggest smokescreen i've ever seen in my life.