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were cosouthern corridor and it last position was in the middle of the indian ocean. west of perth. this is a remote location. far from any possible landing sites. it is therefore with deep sadness and regret that i must inform you that according to this new data, fwllight mh 370 ended in the southern indian ocean. >> careful with every word. you heard him say it, the plane, quote, ended in the southern indian ocean. so this is based upon uk military data that tracked the plane down the southern corridor ending west of perth.

this is the same location where both australian and chinese satellite spotted possible debris and the same location a visual debris sightings during fly overs. but let me be clear, none of those has been verified yet. but just utter heartbreaking scenes at this briefing, this one just for the families. you can see for yourself some people had to be removed from the room. not many dry eyes here. relatives wailing, screaming. you see this man lashing out at members of the media, cursing malaysian authorities there. families were also sent a text message. let me read a part of it for

you. "we have to assume that mh 370 has been lost and that none of those on board survived." you are heard me right. you see the heartbreak. this incredibly sensitive news delivered by via text message. malaysian airlines very quick to say they did tell families in person and by phone. they say the text was used only as an additional means of communication. but 153 of the 227 passengers of flight 370 are from china or hong kong. so let's go now to beijing to david mckenzie. 18 days now since the plane vanished. as we saw, just absolutely devastating for these families. >> reporter: through these days they have been holding on to hope and this message through

text and in person was really that hope being dashed. these people, these families stuck in this hotel behind will me. therefore every lead we followed, every bit of information that could mean that the plane perhaps was still out there, somiracle they could hav clung to, those miracles ran out. here's what one woman had to say. >> translator: they made this announcement today. is it really rue? what is their proof? first of all, they have not the been able to confirm any suspected floating objects. they simply say every sank in to the ocean. what is your proof? how can people bear this? >> reporter: brooke, many of the family members i've been speaking to say they want that same information. they want to see physical

evidence that this plane went down. but in general, yes, it's just a resignation, the start of a grieving process for these people, for these family, the raw emotion of people lashing out to the media, being put on stretchers and taken off to hospitals throughout beijing. certainly this was the creep here in beijing, that ending of hope effe hope differen hope effectively. >> i can't even imagine. but the bit about the text message.effectively. >> i can't even imagine. but the bit about the text message. you can fell me more about how the news was delivered via text, phone or in person? >> reporter: it was through all three. many i spoke to got the message in a text message. some got it in english and weren't sure what it was. and it says deeply regret, but

beyond if i reasonable doubt that this flight has gone down. and no survivors. so certainly very brutal way some might say to get this information. those malaysian airline authorities saying they did try to reach out in person and on the phone. i guess the logic would be to get the information before that official press happened so that there wasn't tonight of a violent response to that particular press conference. but certainly family members wanting to know even from us if we know more details. though there is on some level closure in this matter because the data adds up, it's such a terrible thing for families. they want physical proof. and in china, they want to see the actual body or the remains before they can start that grieving process. >> can you blame some of them? i can't. david, thank you. malaysia's prime minister mentioned new data when making today's announcement and he specifically talked about data

from immar sat. inmarsat was able to do something it has never done before. it used a particular kind of calculation to analyze the jet's automated satellite data. wolf blitzer spoke with a top official who said while nothing is final, the data is pretty solid. >> do you know for sure without any doubt whatsoever that the plane went into the indian ocean and that there are no survivors? >> if you look at the plots that we have using recent adjusted techniques, we can say that the most likely route is the south and most likely ending is in roughly the area they're looking now. >> so chad myers is here. how exactly did it work? >> we still have the same number of pings. but what has changed, the engineers at inmarsat didn't

even know they could do it, but they figured out they could find out whether the plane was flying toward their satellite or away from the satellite by what is called doppler shift. so we talked to inmarsat and they said doppler shift is what we used. think of it on a giant flag pole in the middle of the indian ocean. it stays over the exact same spot all the time. 64.5 degrees east. so now let's look at what we think the pings probably looked like. they haven't released them, but we're pretty close here. we have where they thought the plane probably started and where it ended. i haven't drawn all pings so i can keep it simplified. but this is the sdants to the first, the segtd, tcond, the thd fourth. we always between know the difference. but what is different, are the planes moving inside the circle

or outside the circle. that's the doppler effect. i'll take you to what i believe the doppler effect is especially for the first ping. we say 2:11. within a couple hundred miles. the plane was flying inside the ring which means it was getting closer to the satellite itself. so this is doppler radar. we use doppler radar to know this is tuscaloosa's tornado. is th this is moving this way by doppler shift. we knew at the time there was a tornado on the ground right there at tuscaloosa. where else can you hear doppler shift? if you hear a fire truck or train or racecar go -- there's a shift. if you're going closer, the frequency is different than moving away from you. the train moves across, sound gets lower as the train goes by.

back to the satellite. this is the first ping. there is a second ping through here, a third ping down here. this ping is getting closer to the satellite. this ping is flying along the line. the ping down here is definitely flying away from the satellite to get it down to australia and the last ping here, we don't know if it was the end of the flight or was there still another hour of fuel or 59 minutes, but no 9:11 a.m. ping. so inmarsat says if all this is true, there is no possible way that we can make all of that new data fit to any flight plan going this way. it had to go that way if all of these things came true. still only using one ping. i know it's all out there. but these guys who worked on this all weekend, i know they did because i was a part of a couple e-mail chains going on when talking about dwoppler

shift. >> i imagine for those families pings, science, data, many of them want to see pieces of the plane. chad, thank you so much. for the past several hours you can there is an australian naval survey ship following up on the lead. tony abbott announced that an air crew spotted two objects some 1500 miles southwest of perth. one is gray or green, circular, and the other is an orange rectangle. china also reported suspicious objects in the area spotted by a plane. none of the objects has been respotted and they cannot be confirmed right now to have come of course from this plane, flight 370, but with me now from new york is richard quest and also kit darby, former airline pilot and now consultant.

so welcome to both of you. captain darby, we're getting new information that the flight 370 ended in the indian ocean. does that suggest anything to you ifas far as how or why the plane went so far off course? >> initially i thought the plane had tried to return. and the more recent radar information, my experience with military radar is it's designed to tell you the direction and altitude. it's used for interception. i have quite a bit of confidence in that altitude information. so i believe the airplane turned and dekrepdscended under the tc of the pilot with an attempt to rush to the ground.malaysia.

along the way, they were proceeding with a plan to get the airplane on the ground, i believe they were under attack. so at some point, they may have lost that-46. >> under attack, how do you mean? >> they had a threat. whether outside the cockpit trying to get in, but they were trying to save the plane and themselves and the passengers. at that point, it climbed back up and headed south. whatever they were doing, they lost that battle. so now we're into someone else in control, pilot perhaps following their instructions or not, autopilot doing its job heading south for a really long time. but the initial information still shows that there was -- probably limited the range of the plane because they used fuel to go back to altitude. and that would change the calculation by as much as an hour as to how far they can fly. so that is my -- using all the bits of recent information -- >> piecing it together.

>> i do believe both schools were right. yes, something went on near where it turned. and, yes, something went on in the deep indian ocean. >> richard quest, what do you make of that assessment? >> well, we can't really say one way or the other at this point. there are so many pieces of the jig saw that don't make a complete picture. i can take any fact and not only advance to the nefarious option, the other option, the pilot's option, the pilots dealing with something. the -- and of course we don't have a confirmation on a crew shal issue which is whether or not the plane it descend to 12,000 feet which would make a dramatic difference to the whole scenario. if it just turned and stayed at altitude, that would be a completely different kettle of

fi fish. >> aren't we getting that today? are we not hearing from a source that it did descend to 12,000 feet? >> we've heard from a source. we also 4erd from a source that it was pre-programmed with new wave points 12 minutes before on the and i cars. a acars. and that proved to be incorrect. we heard that it flew at 12,000 feet. and that pruch edproved to be i. so i come back to the point that what we learned today was crucially important not only for the families and relatives of those on board, but because it will allow this vast arm ter of ships and planes to hone their searching skills deep into the south indian ocean. once they find one piece of debris, they will find more.

to the captain's point, it is going to be absolutely crucial to understand what happened. and i agree all the facts do lean toward the suggestion of somebody doing something. but as to who did what -- >> we don't know. >> we just don't. >> captain and to you, richard, thank you. do me a favor, stick away because we're still getting all kinds of questions from the viewers. so in 15 minutes, we will keep answering your questions about the plane, about this possible take brie. accepted me tweets #370 q. coming up next, a closer look at the search itself now focused off the coast of australia. we are just a couple hours away from sunrise. it's 2:15 in the morning there. the start of another the day of searching for possible can debris. so coming up next, we will go live to australia for a closer look at the plans there to send ships and planes out for another day. and we mentioned the report here

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said they spotted two objects in the southern indian ocean. one a gray or green and circular and the other is orange and rectangul rectangular. let's go about perth. how does the announcement from the prime minister today affect the search? >> reporter: well, it doesn't stop it. it basically just sort of shifts it. we have noticed that there is a mood shift here on the ground. what we've noticed over the last five days of the search is when the pilots land, they walk up to the press, debrief what they saw in the ocean. they're not talking anymore. what we have been told is that the australian pilots are now not going to be speaking to the media. they're certainly trying to get on message here. the focus is now tryering to get evidence to back up what the malaysian prime minister said in that you news conference. so the search very much still going on. they're trying to bring these pieces home. so far no pieces found even

though they have been spotted. they haven't been lifted out of the ocean and brought home. >> walk me through the process if and when hopefully they locate, have a official on the debris, see the debris. what really happens next? >> reporter: what happens from the air is that they drop beacons. so when those items were spotted, especially by the australian search plane, they drop beacons. they try to put a beacon into the water. remember, this water is located in some of the most remote spots on the planet, constantly swirling and swishing. it was described to me like a giant washing. . it's constantly shifting. so the beacons hoping it will give the ships somewhere to go.. so the beacons hoping it will give the ships somewhere to go. the shep has to sip has to find, lift it up out of the water.

and bring it back. it won't be easy and it is very far away. >> and then of course the process of using that debris to figure out what happened. thank you. and we have been showing you reports of the rapid change in altitude by flight 370. now there is a reports flight dipped as low as 12,000 feet. what could have happened in that cockpit? we're about to take you inside a flight simulator and show you also some of the families notified about this tragedy by text. they're understandably furious, devastated. many are questioning why the wreckage itself hasn't been found. how do they cope. i understand. (dad) we've never sold a house before. (agent) i'll walk you guys through every step. (dad) so if we sell, do you think we can swing it? (agent) i have the numbers right here and based on the comps that i've found, the timing is perfect.

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new information today about the minutes before flight 370 disappeared is helping piece together really just this time line of what might have taken that plane down. a source close to the investigation tells cnn that this plane flew as low as 12,000 feet at some point before it disappeared from radar. and that military radar tracking shows it did make that significant turnover the south china sea and head toward the strait of malacca. we go back to the flight simulator. can you show me what it would be light inside the cockpit if you're drop to go 12,000 feet?

>> what we're trying to work on here is this idea of decescent. and there is still so much we don't know. such as what was the rate. was it really steep, was it gradual. we don't know. but we wanted to paint for you a scenario where you would get the turn as described. it's an emergency and it's a specific one. say it's sudden decompression. if you have a bulkhead blowout, if you had something explode in the back that ripped out a section of the aircraft, then this would cause the decompression to begin. it would be loud, dramatic and definitely an emergency. so that's what mitchell is doing. he would have oxygen on. i'd have oxygen on. the plane is descending, but you want to get down as quickly as possible to a level where people

can breathe. passengers would have ox again, but only for a limited time. so you want to get down to 12,000, 10,000 feet.again, but only for a limited time. so you want to get down to 12,000, 10,000 feet. at the same time you're turn willing because you're trying to get back lumpur. but point out how the descent is not like a screeching straight down dive. >> of course. because if it's rapid decompression, the aircraft structural integrity could be compromised and you don't want to worsen that with the overspeeding the aircraft. >> right. the plane could be so damaged by whatever caused the decompress that if you deskrended too rap plid, you could rip the plane apart. eventually you'll get down to a

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ended in the southern indian ocean. >> the data he's referring to is based upon uk military radar that tracked the plane down the southern corridor to the area west of perth, a location that has become the scene of several take br debris sightings. although not a single one has been confirmed yet. the pictures tell it all. the news just too much to bear for some of them. breaking down in tears. you see one person wheeled out on a stretcher after the malaysian government told them no one survived that flight. so here is the pull text message, that's right, i said text message the families of flight 370 received before the prime minister's announcement. "malaysian airlines deeply regrets that we have to assume beyond any reasonable doubt that mh 370 has been lost and that none of those on board survived.

as you will hear in the next hour from malaysia's prime minister, we must now accept all evidence suggests the plane wpt down in the southern indian ocean. so joining me, psychologist eric fesher. welcome back. let the me just say this, malaysia airlines says, yes, they tried to talk to people in person, pick up the phone and deliver such sensitive news that way. but talking to a reporter in beijing, many of them learned on a text. how do you process that? that is brutal. >> i think we have an issue here speed of information, speed of the media, speed to want to get some information that they didn't fully think through the impact of families who have been waiting for 14 days maybe thinking if we get them this information quickly, then we can move on with the news. so the issue you have to look at is weighing those things, but not necessarily considering the emotional impact. because processing a text that you've been cop firm that had

your loved one is lost is painful. >> and here you have these families. i'm trying to imagine you're told by the prime minister that the flight ended, right, and you're still i imagine left wondering, are you sure? how do we know you're sure? there are no pieces of the plane. we know that they have actually offered if and when these are pieces of the plane that thelma laz i can't airlines fly the families to australia to see them. do you think that would be visible for these families for do? >> as humans, we need that closure, something to physical or to see. they won't have a body to bury which is very difficult in some cultures because they need that body to perform some of the rituals. so we have to consider that fact. and this is something potentially that they feel they need to offer for people to move on. whether or not people want to do that will depend on the individual. sbl what s sbl. >> what if they get nothing?

>> unfortunately, sometimes life doesn't offer us the neat packages to give us closure to a life and we have to understand the difficulties that we all may face in the loss of loved ones that we may have. but how we choose to move through the situations really depends on us, our support systems, the things that we choose to do to work through emotions. but my concern for a lot of these families is there may be a lot of complicated bereavement cycles because they're not able to have some of the ritual list tick ceremonies that give him closure. >> complicate in-geed.list tick ceremonies that give him closure. >> complicate in-geed. the partner of phillip wood tweeted hurts hurting. lift all loved ones with your thoughts and prayers. thank you for your support and for being our inspiration. i know people talk about closure. i kind of don't believe in it you just find a way to not move on, but move forward. how do these families do that? >> i saw an interview with some

be who had a fiance on a flight and you could tell they still hadn't fully moved on, just talking about what people may have gone through and brought up the emotions. so we have to know that we will have cycles of emotion in oin grieving process and even post-traumatic in a way. so this will be a process that we'll work through for years to come. anniversary, wedding dates, holidays and things like that as well as anniversaries of the loss and other losses that happen to people can be tregers for many of us. >> eric fisher, thank you so much. just thinking about them, those moms and dads, son, daughters, thank you. coming up next hour, we'll talk to someone who actually knows personally what the families of flight 370 are experiencing. he's the brother of a passenger whose plane went down in 2003 and has never been found. also we've been getting really insightful questions from you on

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you have questions and we have experts to help. captain kit darby. here we go. question number one. this comes from ken. ken asks, how can you come to a conclusion based on new calculations without finding any debris? referring presumably to the malaysian prime minister statement. >> i'm going to say that's best answered by the satellite folks which have probably done terrific work. but i'm a show me kind of guy, so i'll be a lot happier that we have the right information when they have the piece of the airplane in their hand. right now it's a little bit

magic from an informed perspective. >> so you're believing it, but you want to see the tangible. >> nancy tweets in please ask about the emergency pingers that only go off when planes hit water. >> the pinger is a locating device attached to a black box. if lasts about 30 days. actually longer, but at full strength for 30 days. in this case it would be barely perceptible. the water is deep enough if you were right over it, you would be able to hear it with the right equipment. so it's a very difficult search in this deep of water. so that's why we want to narrow down the location before we start looking because the piece, the sub or the microphone, it will only move along at 4 or 5 miles an hour so you can't cover a lot of ground. >> so i think today is day 18. more or less it has full juice

for 30, so not too many more. how long do you really think it could ping? >> it could probably ping for two or three times that. maybe more. it will be weaker and weaker, but still usable if we can get close enough. >> and this from dan. dan asks why do pilots have to sound sos or the mayday call? why can't flight staff? divide up who does what better. pilots need to supply. >> the communication equipment is all in the cockpit at thisca text message basically. it has several automated keys. it has several frequencies. you have a lot of different ways to do this. but they're all accessible in the cockpit to the pilots and not accessible to the flight staff in the back. we could probably use their help if the situation was tough, but they simply don't have the tools

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sa saidian ocean. not just one, but two different objects. one orange, one gray or green in color. and then you have china also spotted what it called suspicious objects from the air. so joining me now christine denison, an oceans explorer. thank you so much for joining me. let's just -- first question would be let's say they find this debris. how do they even fgo about figuring out if it is in fact a piece of the plane? >> first hang thank you for ha me. this is like solving a piece of a puzzle and we're just starting. there are so many variables, so many things we don't know. the one thing we do have now is that we have a location which is deep ocean water. so starting from there, and the debris that has been floating and moving around because of the currents, because of the weather, because of 17 days,

they are going to -- they have honed in on an area that they are really going to deploy resources into this area and scour the surface. so they're still following the same protocol of doing the aerial eye search which is what they have to do. they have to visually make contact with the debris, identify it, and then retrieve it. and so the process is remaining the same in terms of the way they will go about this, which will have to start with identifying debris before they can then start the grid patterns deploying a high row oig phone this is very deep water. and the search will then have to continue. we really need to find these black boxes to solve the next piece of the puzzle. >> so let's -- the voice data recovereder is key. so you mentioned the currents. and now i think it's day 18.

so what is even the likelihood that if they find a piece of today bri on the surface and that tells them, okay, maybe something is farther down in the bottom of ocean, which is it the likelihood that it is even nearby anymore about. >> well, this debris has been floating in the ocean for 18 days. what they will do is again as captain darby mentioned, they are working with some of the best current radar information people that are on sight or giving them information that i don't believe we are privy to at this point. >> i agree with you. >> and they will be working trying to figure out where the point of impact would be, where we can again -- items being's a. we have to listen for sounsd. they're eager to get it into the water once we find a debris field. and then it's ticking off. we've tried this, we've done this area, we're not finding

anything, they pick up and go to the next. so they will be moving along in a very methodic pattern to try to eliminate where they're not hearing sound. cross that out and go to the next area. and this is still a very time consuming process that will be hampered by weather. >> this it tpl, this is the pinkpink oiger locater, it's listening for the ping to figure out what happened. but it can only move like 10, 15 square miles a day and we're talking about an area that is like tens of thousands of nautical square miles, correct? >> correct. and it is a slow process. but again, you have some of the best teams that will be deployed. and really i think the best resources that from all these different countries that are putting in the effort dedicated

to finding this. and within the time frame that we have left. and as captain darby also said, every day the batteries are being reduced and so it's more of a fate sound. but they're really working gh s against time here. >> hopefully they can find it and figure it out. thank you so much. back to these families of the lost on flight 370. they have so few answers. so what is it like to lose a family member and have no idea what happened to almost or her ever? coming up, hear from a man who lost his brother more than ten years ago in a plane accident and still has no idea where he is or what happened. up late. thinking up game-changing ideas, like this: dozens of tax free zones across new york state. move here. expand here. or start a new business here... and pay no taxes for 10 years. with new jobs, new opportunities

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land slide in washington state that killed eight. officials are how telling us that 108 people are still unaccounted for. let me take you how to arre arlington, washington where george howell is working this. authorities said more than a dozen were unaccounted for. so why such a big jump in the number? >> reporter: well, they basically looked at all of the reports that are out there. i'm talking about reports that perhaps family members put up on their open websites or reports over social media, or vague reports about a neighbor saying, hey, i haven't seen jim at his home on that corner lot. all of those reports they brought them together and they now believe that they have 108 reports that they're looking into. they want to it can that number obviously have people call in, check in. they're hoping that will happen over the next several days. but again, 108 reports that they're looking into. the search, though, continues today. we know they will be looking by

air. have an aircraft. they're on the ground. people with electronic people to basically probe the ground to look for survivors. but when you hear from the officials today, they are still hopeful but not quite as optimistic given that we're now more than 48 hours since that mudslide. take a listen. >> we're still in a rescue mode. however, i want to let everyone know that the situation is very grim. we haven't -- we're still holding out hope that we'll be able to find people that may still be alive. but keep in mind we have not found anybody alive on this pile since saturday. >> reporter: so the outlook is grim, but here's the thing. today is key. you see here the pacific northwest today, it's a sunny day, we know next several days there is rain in the forecast. and certainly that will not help with search efforts here. >> george howell, thank you so

much. in arlington, washington. top much the hour, i'm brooke baldwin. and today, three heart democratic breaking words for the families of flight 370, all lives lost. some relatives you see here taken out on emergency stretchers, screaming, cursing the media, malaysian authorities. the prime minister delivering the awful news but not before a text message went out that read, quote, we have to assume beyond all reasonable godoubt that non of those on board survived. but of course the question now, where is the evidence? are is the debris?

one family member saying wrought proof, they're still holding out hope. >> only thing i hope, they don't give up the search. i want for see something from the seas. i just want to see some debris off the aircraft and the black box to know what exactly happened. because there are too many up answered questions. >> too many unanswered questions. but british company inmarsat who we're learning tracked this plane into the southern corridor say their data is pretty solid. and now we have will this. strongly worded statement, this is from the families committees. 18 days into malaysian airlines announced it went missing, the airline malaysian government and malaysian military have been keeping putting off, holding back and covering up the truth of the incident as well as trying to dereceiver passengers' families and people of the entire world.

such despicable act not only emotionally and physically fooled and destroyed us families much the 154 passengers, but also misled and delayed search efforts and wasted more precious life saving time. it goes on if our 154 relatives lost their lives due to such reason, malaysian airlines, malaysian government and military are the real murderers that killed them. hereby, as family of those 154 chinese passengers aboard malaysia airlines mh 370, we bring the strongest condemnation and proceed test against malaysia airlines, malaysia government and military and will carry out every measure to go after their unforgivable guilt. david mckenzie, i'm going to you. he's live from that hotel with more. words like the real murderers that killed them? they are not holding back.

>> reporter: they're not holding back. and you can understand the anger after all these days of waiting here in this hotel, cooped up, saying they're not getting the information they want and need. obviously holding out hope as you said to any kind of information that could indicate their loved ones are alive after this ordeal. and that seems to have come in some ways callously through a text message, in other ways as best airlines could. that hope has been extinguished. so i think it's worth mentioning that it's not just the family members here that are mourning or starting to grieve. made lalaisysian airlines had c passengers on board. they would also be feeling this right now as well as people across the world linked to the passengers and crew on board. so an extremely difficult time and you can understand the lashing out by the families who

feel they have been treated badly. >> we lettered frheard from thed of the passenger that he wants proof. we know there is possible debris way off the coast of australia. tell me what you hoe about potential plans to fly those family members to australia if and when they find something. >> reporter: that's always been the plan forget the family members closer to the scene when they find any debris or any crash of this plane. that is also just the standard operating procedure in this case. but at this point, it's unclear whether the family members will go even if offered to go because many want to stand together and stand strong. also possibly now there will be talk of litigation in the coming days. this is a very messy scenario for all those involved. but certainly right now tonight, today, the issue is here of raw emotion. realizing that that hope that

you have is no longer there, that your loved one and in the case of the chinese family, many of them had single children because of china's one child policy. that hope is gone with that child or that furthering on of the generation. so terrible in any situation. but for these families, it seems so much worse because they were hoping for the best about publicly at least. and just huge visceral response here. >> devastating. can not begin to imagine what this is like for them. david mckenzie in beijing for us. and at today's announcement, malaysia's prime minister talked about the new data specifically data from the british company inmar sain m inmarsat. he said they were able to do something, that they have actually never done before. figuring out the plane's direction of travel using a particular calculation to analyze the jet's automated satellite data. wolf blitzer talked to a top

inmar sat official who said while nothing final, the data is pretty solid. >> malaysians are stating that there was only 7 1/2 hours of fuel and so it most likely went into an independentiaian ocean. >> is inmarsat is saying it mostly likely took the southern route or it definitely took the southern route? >> i'm trying to be a bit british. i'm saying we've looked at the models path and we've looked at the experience of the pings that we got off of the aircraft. they closely match each other. so if you're in the whodunit mode, you're most likely going to be looking in the southern ocean. >> let's go to washington with tom foreman.

you can walk me through how inmarsat used this data to figure out why the plane went? >> this is very much what you learned in high school. it starts with a simple idea here. we're talking about the northern and southern arc out here, that the plane was believed to be flying on. think about this. if you shouted out across a canyon and you got an echo back, about if it's a smaller canyon, it comes back to you quick person if it's bigger, it takes longer. think about this. we have a satellite. flying at 22,000 miles above the earth. if it sends is and i go natural down t a signal down to the earth, it takes a period of final, quarter second or less probably, but a huge amount of i'm in this equation. if each circle represents how close you are, by measuring the distance they're able to say

this is how far that plane was at any given moment. they don't know if it goes north or south, just tells them how far away it was from the center where the satellite would be. but then they say, look, authorities know to the north there are a lot of ray dwaof ra there that should have read a plane. and the earth is not exactly round. so you'll get a slightly different read to go ting to th than to the south. and then they looked at other planes just like you would if you were learning a mathematics equation and said did it correctly predict the location of a plane we know about. yes, it did, yes, if did. and after doing all of that, now they said run the equation for the missing plane.tf did. and after doing all of that, now they said run the equation for

the missing plane. did. and after doing all of that, now they said run the equation for the missing plane. and this has to be your answer right there in the bottom. and the yellow boxes is when you add in the drift patterns. it is mathematical detective work. and it's not that complicated, but it hasn't been applied this way before. i was talking to a professor at georgia tech who said this is pretty basic work, but if you extrapolate it properly, it should be rock solid. so that is how they managed to take a search area that at one point was as big as 20 million square miles and now down to at least a searchable space. >> should be rock solid proof here, but still for these families, pot quite enough. so i wanted -- tom foreman, thank you very much. let's talk about the search for the possible debris. australian navy vessels went toward the spot in the vast indian ocean where an air crew

reported seeing two objects, one green or gray in color and one orange. and then on top of that, we're hearing from china, china also spotting what it called suspicious objects from the air. let the me be clear, none of the objects has been confirmed to have come from flight 370. steve wallace and captain john ransom join me. john, let me again with you. now that we're hearing from the malaysian prime minister today, his phraseology was that the flight ended in the indian ocean, is there anything from what you've gleaned today that may help will us understand why or how this plane veered so off course? >> welli , things are still ver much up in the air. we haven't heard anything so definitive as to be able to

point in any particular direction. i think he was very again tegen saying that the flight ended in the south indian ocean. but we're still no closer to figuring out what happened to the airplane. >> steve, is anything jumping out at you from everything you've heard? >>? >> well, captain rap snsom is exactly right. on day one, everything is on the table. day 18, everything is still on the table. we had the very 1078 bettsomber announcement from the prime minister. i think in an effort to perhaps bring closure to these families who have suffered so terribly. he also took away perhaps the last glimmer of hope that the plane might have miraculously have landed someplace. but the investigation goes on. and i would just note a couple things. i've heard that inmarsat officials, and i have believed

from day one that the inmarsat data was among the more reliable evidence in this investigation. there has been a lot of missteps and evidence of doubtful quality. but i would also point out from perth and the airport to the location of the most likely spot where they're looking for -- >> it's hours. >> it's about new york to denver. so i think this is obviously a very, very uniquely challenging investigation. and we haven't seen a large jet fran transport disappear like this ever. >> as we're looking at this animation and trauking about i trajectory, we know vessels are heading out trying to refind the debris. let's say they find the debris. they grab it. what is step number one in

figuring out, a, it in fact came from this 777 and, b, working back wards and figuring out based upon this piece of metal what happened on the plane? >> well, so i think the biggest hope is that they find something they can identify with the plane, most likely things that fleet tend to be light weight interior components or seat cushions, baggage. that's what you normally see. large pieces of structure tend to sink. so if you identify something positively with the flight, it could be nothing more than a passenger's bag with a name on it. and then while the evidence mile at the time you something about the failure, i think it just leads you closer for where you can get those invaluable -- >> to the key. >> to the recorders, correct.

>> captain, we hear from sources, sometimes they turn out to be wrong. we know that. but one source has told cnn that after the left turn, that this plane made instead of going off to beijing, that at some point it groped to 12,000 feet. when you heard that, what did you think? >> well, assuming that that was in fact correct, it made me think that that would be the actions of a crew trying to either get down to breathable air or trying to get to the nearest airport to put the airplane on the ground. staying at 35,000 feet when you have something catastrophic having happened to the airplane is not something that the crew members want to do at. they want to start it down and get it landed. >> so somewhere between that turn if it did go down to 12,000, for to go all the way southward, right, into the he saidian indian ocean --

>> if the airplane did go down at 12,000 feet, it had to presumably go back up to a higher altitude to get enough fuel to last seven more hours or it had to reduce the speed enough to where flying at such a low drag spot would allow it to fly for that long. and that would be an amazing happen stance were to take place. >> john ransom, thank you very much. and steve wallace, thanks to you. we keep coming up with more questions than answers unfortunately. people continue the tweets. #370 q. we'll ask our experts in about 30 minutes from now. so your questions that you have, so many. but meantime, i want to get back to the heartbroken family this is beijing today. relatives you see here wheeled out on gurneys because much tof

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welcome back on special cnn coverage p. although hands ride to shield the gleefing from camera lenses, we see the been of the flight 370 families. but the actual anguish is experienced only by few people. my next guest is one of them.

joe s's brother was would noone passengers on the 7727 that vanished. joe joins me now from pensacola, florida. welcome. >> thank you. >> i can't underscore enough that these are very different scenarios. your brother was one of two on the plane. you didn't have the whole world looking for your brother's plane. but that said, you know what it feels like to sit and wait and wonder what happened to your loved one. >> yes, i sure do. i just hope the malaysian government isn't jumping the gun here. because on the search for my brother, i learned all the sear yell numbers on all the parts are cataloged. the manufacturer would be i believe boeing. well, sg anyone have a part from

that plane with a sear yell number and has went to boeing with the sear yell numbrial numf this is the plane. because it gets people's hope up and down, up and down. >> at what point did your up and down end? has it? >> it hasn't. because i still spend several hours searching on internet, seeing if i can find anyone that knows anything, checking my e-mail constantly. hopefully someone would know anything about it would e-mail me. and every now and then, i receive phone calls from different people that knew my brother and just asking me if i have heard anything out of it. which i haven't. >> so every day, you still intend time trying to figure out what happened to your brother, the ups and downs continue. what do you make of the fact as we're reporting that these family members apparently made laid i can't airlines tried to tell them in person or over a phone, but it's sort of a

logistical nightmare, a lot of people, different countries, they found out over a text message. did you hear about that? >> yes, i did. i've been watching cnn well since this began. i could not believe what i heard sending a text message to family members. that is something you don't do. and just like i said, i don't believe they should have come out with the malaysian prime minister, i don't believe he should have given a news conference until he knew 100% that this was the plane. >> there is this debris as you know, because you've been watching this possible plane debris off of way of on of australia. and soma laz i can't airlines as per protocol is offering to send these families to perth to at least be closer to the search. do you think that would be helpful for these family members wait something. >> no, i don't. i think it would be too hurtful.

for me it would be too hurtful. someone said earlier take that they would like to have the bodies back. i'm in the same position they are. i would like to have my brother's body back if he's deceased. >> what is it about having a body? again, i hate the word closure, but is it a sense of peace, is it a sense of it's that tangible knowing where your brother is? >> yes, it would be peace of mind if i had my brother's body back. yes, it would. because 11 years, that's a long time. and it's a of stress. i've had quite a few little hth tacks because of stress. he's my flesh and blood. >> i can't begin to understand. here 239 people on board and are you alone. joe, thank you so much for

sharing such a horrible unique experience that you have endured and continue to endure. i appreciate it. talk about proof, us a railians are scrambling trying to find the suspicious objects. could it be pieces of the plane. we'll take you live to perth next. and we continue to answer your questions. keep the fwooets coming. #370 q.

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believe flight 370 disappeared in to the southern indian ocean. and today's announcement came soon after australian officials said they had spotted two objects about 1500 miles southwest of the australian coastline. so we'll go to perth where it is just about 3:30 in the morning. so a couple hours away before daylight. hopefully good conditions out in the waters. tell me about this search. >> reporter: the conditions are actually going to deteriorate. we've heard from the military the weather cast for the search area expected to be very poor. there is a weather system coming in. they have already dealt with low lying clouds. it is supposed to get worse today. so certainly there is an urgency to try to find today the brie. but it is not easy from this location. the planes that will be leaving here in about 2 1/2 hours. that is typically what has been

happening. they have been leaving, heading four hours to this remote section, a section where the water according to one of the pilots looks like a giant washing machine. that and he how tough the waters are. they have to wade through all of that visually, try to spot something and then four hour back here. so the search continuing again today. but it is not easy. >> not news family wants. kim, thank you. we're staying on the story. keep your questions coming. we'll get some of them answered next. we have experts on standby. i always say be the man with the plan

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you're watching cnn. i'm brooke baldwin. without any physical evidence of the plane itself, today malaysia's prime minister made the announcement that flight 370 ended in the southern indian ocean and that no one survived. >> it is therefore with deep sadness and regret that i must inform you that according to this new data, flight mh 370 ended in the southern indian ocean. >> the data he's referring to is based on uk military radar that

tracked the plane down the southern corridor, a location that has become the scene of several debris sightings, all those none has been confirmed yet. now it is stressed families are lashing out in anger. let me read part of their statement. quote, the airline, malaysian government and malaysian military have been putting off, holding back and covering up the truth of the incident as well as trying to deceive passengers' families and the world. if our 154 relatives aboard lost their lives due to such reasons, then they are the real murderers that killed them. despite today's devastating news that all lives were lost, the investigation moves on asthma laz dwr asthma lazian investigators remain committed to finding out what happened. joining me now, richard quest. i want to talk about this report of the plane flying at a --

descending to a 12,000 foot altitude sometime after the turn. of course sources can be wrong. but what does that tell you? >> if that is true that the plane did descend to 12,000 feet and backtracked across malaysia, we know it had to go back up again to about 35,000 feet. because at 12,000 feet, the amount of fuel it would be using would be so huge because it's a very inefficient level to be flying at for an aircraft like that, it wouldn't have gone that far south. so we know that the plane had to get back up to 35,000, 40,000 feet for to have covered the distance to the sort of region that the malaysians now say where the flight ended. >> and then also learning about the left turn that we had talked so much about, the dramatic left instead of heading up to

beijing, there has been so much talk about autopilot, but we've learned that turn took two minutes to maneuver. someone said it was clearly an intentional turn. what does that tell you? >> it tells that you it was a controlled turn. that it was done under the command of somebody, whether pilots or otherwise. because the plane basically would have done a gentle turn like that. when i heard the two minute line, that's what the source suggested. i think that is a little bit long. i think you would do a turn perhaps quicker. but it's all evidence that whatever happened after the "all right good night" and at around 1:21 to 1:23, that is what led to the plane turning and heading into the opposite direction. that much we know.

we know the plane flew back the way it had just come. we don't know about this 12,000 feet and we don't know why it did what it did. the inmarsat satellite readings that you're now talking about is calibration of the highest order. they are going way beyond they have ever had to do before. it if you listen to chris mclaughlin and you know the british equivalent of the ntsb, they have been diving back into the pings from the satellite to the plane to try to make -- all to do with the very short time difference between the handshake and back up again. by taking those very small secretaries, they can work out where the plane is. and that is why china is saying now tonight they want to see the data, they're still calling it a search and rescue and still calling on malaysia to provide more information. that has to be the next step.

>> through this whole thing, i've been thinking, malaysia has to know much more than what they're telling us. and here we have possible debris, possible debris off the coast of australia, but without that voice data record, which they may never find, it's possible these families, is it not, they will never know what happened to their loved ones. >> once they start recovering objects which turn out to be debris, that will tell an enormous amount. it will show the compression of the object. it will show whether there was -- it could show whether there was fire and scorching and sooting. it will show -- they will know where on the plane it was. they will be able to work out how the plane entered the water. of that i have no doubt. we saw that from 4:47. but the ultimate question, what

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let's get some of your questions answered. steve wallace joining us and john ransom. gentlemen, let's get right to it. this first question, steve, i'll

toss it to you. but both feel free to weigh in. if and when debris is found, who takes charge of the recovery and who has the best equipment to search for black boxes? steve first and then captain. >> well, it's very much a shared effort. at this point since the assumption is that the aircraft crashed in international waters, then the country of register which is malaysia would be in charge of the investigation. normally if an aircraft crashes on land or within the territorial waters of a country, the country where it occurs is in charge. so they will use a lot of -- typically they would use navy assets, this is a huge exercise in international cooperation, i note, and they will recover the wreckage. and i expect they would take to a fairly -- the closest place they could perhaps reasonably reassemble it or evaluate it.

so i guess that might be australia. assuming that it appears -- they find about where they are looking. >> we talk about the altitude drop on the left turn. greg wants to know mh 370 reportedly dropped to 12,000 feet which would have meant two times the fuel consumption. so how does the elevation drop affect i guess fuel consumption. >> he's correct, the lower the airplane goes, the fuel more it will consume per mile. especially noticeable if you fry to maintain high speed. if you slow the airplane down, fuel consumption will go down always, but not enough to allow the airplane to get all the way to the indian ocean i don't believe. which means that there is something that is not krecorrec. the airplane did not go to 12 and stay at 12 or went on 12 and

somehow climbed up to a higher al if i tud presumably at the a slower speed. or it never went to 12. >> but it would have had to go back up to normed ed al speed. >> if everything else we snow correct. >> nancy wants to know if 370 went in so the so you were indian ocean, how come none of the emergency pingers have been heard. >> they have short range.ocean, emergency pingers have been heard. >> they have short range. they can typically be heard by some underwater listening device for only a distance of about 3 to 5 miles. so now we've heard descriptions of how huge the search area is. and i think the short answer to her question is they haven't gotten the listening devices

close enough to the pingers assuming that the penk pinkers are working. >> and the juice, the battery life for the pingers more or less is 30 days. correct? >> i'm glad you said more or less. because it's like your computer water battery. sometimes it goes longer or shorter than predicted. this idea of a countdown clock is not correct. i had add that the faa has recently revised the standard and in the future, the pingers will be required gur raduration days. this will be slowly phased in over the coming years. >> thank you both so much. appreciate it. and thanks to some new satellite data analysis, we know all the ships are searching in the right area. how did this company help track

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. new analysis used by a british satellite company helped break this investigation wide open. global communication company inmarsat used this never-before-used calculation. erin mclaughlin is live at the company's headquarters. erin, we heard earlier today

from their senior vice president that he's confident that the information is on point but everybody's question is, how can he be so sure? >> reporter: well, they are saying here at inmarsat that they are highly confident but they are not certain. they are dealing with a limited set of data and the plane did not have an onboard tracking system. there are two corridors that they are talking about. the northern and southern k corridor. and that was based on pings between the plane and the inmarsat satellite. they took that data, analysis and shared it with authorities on march 11th. what they have done since then have taken that same set of data and kind of looked at it in a different way and compared it to similar flights that have flown in that area. earlier i spoke to john, vice

president of external communications here at inmarsat and he walked me through the analysis. >> we looked at the possibility that it could have gone north versus south and what we found was a fit between the southern route model and the southern root and the pings that we received. >> reporter: now, i asked chris on a scale of 1 to 10 how confident are they and they said that they didn't want to put a number to it but that they are fairly certain, highly certain that authorities right now are looking in the correct place. brooke? >> erin mclaughlin in london, thank you. and stunning news coming out of washington state today after that giant mudslide buried a neighborhood north of seattle. the number of people unaccounted for has dramatically risen, even as searchers frantically look for survivors trapped in the mud. we asked people a question,

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. now to this major development in saturday's landslide in washington state that killed eight people. here's the new number that we have. as far as those unaccounted for, officials are telling us 108. cnn's george howell is in arlington, washington. why the dramatic change? >> reporter: well, certainly that number has shot up significantly. 108. but it's important to break it down. we're not talking specifically about names here. these could be reports that families might have put out on private websites looking for loved ones. could be reports out on social media or generic, vague references. for instances, making up a name here, neil who lived on a corner. maybe a neighbor said i haven't

seen neil. they are trying to narrow it down and they are hoping that people will call in. they are giving a phone number for people to do so as they continue the search and rescue operation. i want to show you over here as well. right now we're expecting within the next few minutes a news conference to get more information about what is happening right now with the search. we do know that they are out there. they have aircraft, people on the ground probing with electronic equipment to look for people in the mud and in the mess. but i do want to tell you, the last news conference that we heard, brooke, from officials, they are hopeful but they are not as optimistic. take a listen. >> we're still in a rescue mode at this time. however, i want to let everyone know that the situation is very grim. we haven't -- we are still holding out hope that we're going to be able to find people that may still be alive. but keep in mind, we have not

found anybody alive in this pile since saturday. >> reporter: so we're waiting for this news conference that we here at cnn will continue to monitor and bring you the latest as we get them. the search operation continues. they did it through the night. last night they had the technology to do that. the land is better to do it today because it's a sunny day. today really will be key to do more searching, brooke. >> george howell, thank you. time is running out as crews try to clean up the oil spill in texas, galveston bay. a collision sent 168,000 gallons of heavy oil-type tar. a couple aboard the cruise ship was stuck in the houston ship channel took this video, shared it with us showing orange oil

booms being placed there in the water. it has been 25 years since exxon-valdez's wrecked spills millions of gallons of oil. please watch our special tomorrow at 10:00 on cnn. the united states and europe have agreed at an emergency meeting to suspend participation in the so-called group of eight to punish russia. that group was called by president obama. the annexation of crimea. russia was scheduled to hold the g-8 summit in sochi. it will now be held in brussels without vladimir putin. of course, some of the segments we're getting new information on this missing aircraft that we've now learned from hours before from the malaysian prime

minister that it ended in the indian ocean. jake will be all over this. stay right here. let's go to washington. i'm going to turn things over to jim sciutto sitting in for jake. "the lead" starts now. any hope of seeing the 239 people on flight 370 ever again now appears to be gone. i'm jim sciutto and this is "the lead." the world lead. loved ones breaking down, wheeled out on gurneys. some calling malaysian officials murderers. we'll talk to the brother of one passenger who does sound ready to give up. also, without any wreckage found, without any official proof, malaysian officials used old information to come to a new conclusion with a technique that has never been tried before.