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million square kilometers. today they are focusing on 80. why that particular area? >> reporter: it's an area that they have looked over before. if you look at the latest map from the search coordinators, the area of interest is within that much bigger zone. it's about, it's several hundred kilometers to the east of where the flights route indicated the plane may have gone. if the plane did come down looks as if the drift would have taken any debris towards the east. this is of particular interest. it's where both the chinese have spotted objects in the past few days which have not been relocated by surface vessels or other aircraft looking.
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it's been searched before. this is the area of greatest interest there. there were two search zones. today's search is the bridge between those two plus over the search zones that have been looked at before. they are combing over the same sort of area. that's a sharp focus on the search today and the search continues to ramp up. the australian prime minister tony abbott, telling local television there are 12 planes on the search today. that's the most number they have had and more are still expected. he didn't give any further details but we're still very much in the expansion stage, if do y you like. there's a civilian aircraft. i'm talking about corporate jets which can get 10, 12 spotters on those planes and basically get eyes on the area. the weather is not perfect by any means but obviously a lot
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better than yesterday. the conditions yesterday described as horrendous. today there's still cloud cover. planes can get under that cloud cover quite easily and search. haven't heard back yet. the first commercial jets are due back pretty soon. as we have noticed the news starts coming out a little bit later in the day. we may hear it from the search authorities first. we get the pilot's coming down landing here. walking to microphones. obviously the search authority know what they will say. if they have found something that's another source. we're waiting to see whether there's any news today. >> okay. the u.s. is sent that underwater drone. they're essentially on standby. >> reporter: it appears so.
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we're still trying to get a line on when this equipment will be on the way to the search zone. defense officials in australia and the u.s. will tell you we don't have a zone to send this to yet as in we still don't know where the debris is. until we have an area which has positively id's any debris with the plane, the assets are sort of being sort to an area which we still don't know is the right area. the other side of that story is it's going to take four to five days to get there anywhere. it would appear to make more sense to be in at least in the area with your equipment rather than 1500, two and a half kilometers back in perth. it has arrived. it does need to be assembled. this is technical equipment. what you're talking about is basically a toad instrument behind the ship, which is decked in the water listening for the
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pings from the flight data recorder boxes. there's also submersive. it's a blue fin 21. this is remotely operated submarine which can get down to the sea floor. it can go down as deep as 20,000 feet where it can then map the sea floor and look for any objects which stand out like big bits of fuselage. it can be on the ocean floor for some 25 hours, john. we understand there's more than one of these remotely operated vehicles now here in perth being reassembled. we don't know when they will start making their way to the southern indian ocean. >> it's going to have to be quick. a couple of days to assemble, a cup of days to get out there. there's 11 days left of battery life with the black box. andrew stephens with the latest.
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>> we know that two-thirds of pas passengers on board were chinese. now some chinese celebrities have taken to the country's version of twitter to tell their fans to boycott. tell us more about what some of these chinese celebrities are telling people to do. >> reporter: some of them are speaking for themselves but we see their followers are posting quickly. there's one very famous actor, he has 73 million followers. he posted that he will boycott malaysian product, commercial products and boycott any future trips or tours to malaysia. after he posted that, there were 70,000 reposts in just one day. there's also another actor, a tv
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host named meng fei. he said i've never been to malaysia andly no longer plan to go there. we checked out one other person. this is a writer. his name is keng er gou. he talked about the tourism dollars that chinese tourists brought to malaysia last year. he said from now on i hope this number will become zero. there's some activity going on behind me. i want to bring your attention to it. this is an inpromptu family press conference that's been set up. you see the gentleman in the middle, his name is steve wong. he's the head of famicommittee that's been organized. we talked to him off camera and on camera. his mother was on flight.
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they were taking a connecting flight. he's been very, very vocal. so angry, as you can manage. they are having this press conference. we just learned about it as we saw the media going over. we know they gave a letter of complaint to the malaysian embassy yesterday. the main complaint is they feel there's not enough evidence in order for them to announce no one has survived and this plane to go down. they say they're not ready to close the door on this because they want to see physical evidence. they feel the relatives, the families have not been respected of the slow flow of information. a lot of contradictions. a lot of u turns and the fact they have been stone walled at some of these briefings between malaysian officials and family members.
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as you can see we're gathering information. this going on right now. this was not planned. we'll try to get the gist of this news conference and bring that back to you. our producer is there on stage and will try to talk to them. as you can see families getting very organized. social media burning up with a lot of criticism against malaysia. >> indeed. we saw those family members taking their anger to the doorstep of malaysia's embassy there in beijing. they are organized. they are angry. they want to see some sort of evidence as you pointed out. many thanks to you. there's another search ongoing. it's in the u.s. state of washington where they are still looking for victims after a d d deadly landslide on saturday. >> up to eight people are dead. eight bodies have been located. at least 176 people are unaccounted for.
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>> the landslide tore through about two and a half square kilometers. >> no one has been pulled alive from the debris since saturday. rescuers admit it's increasingly unlikely they'll find anymore survivor. crews are pressing on. >> reporter: the 911 calls don't do it justice. >> what's your emergency in. >> there's a mudslide and everything's gone. the houses are gone. >> reporter: how could they? how could people in that moment fathom this? an entire small town violently devoured by a blender of sliding mud and massive boulders and shattered trees. after a few precious rescues on saturday, volunteers lined up today filled with hope someone somehow survived all of this and just needs hand. >> just think of the emotional boost if they could find one person in there, hear one voice. >> people are looking for that.
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a dog was found yesterday and that was a boost. we're going to keep looking though. we're going to keep hope alive. >> reporter: for the first responders who spent three days pulling broken humanity out of impossibly sticky mud that is easier said than done. >> this is what it is right there. here is a sample. >> it's like potter's clay. >> it's like grease. >> my goodness. >> it's the most stickiest, slimiest stuff. it's hard to move in. it weighs you down. >> when you hope that somebody has an air pocket somewhere, is that realistic? >> we're finding cars ripped in half. survival chance of going through something like that with all the trees and timber that came down and boulders. air pocket, i don't think so because the river and then a wave of the river up with it to
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possibly drown anybody. >> how are you coping psychologically, emotionally? >> handling it pretty good. i got diagnosed with a bleeding stomach ulcer yesterday. trying to keep it contained. it's coming out in other ways. >> it's like a war zone out there. you see hands, her hand wads stucking up out of the ground. >> reporter: he hiked into the disaster zone desperate to find a missing cousin who was driving highway 530 when the mountain came down and her cell phone went down. >> i can't imagine the emotional toll this will take on you going forward. are you hopeful that your cousin somehow is in that car, somehow has enough air? >> i pray to god she has the air to survive but i don't think any vehicle holds enough air to survive for four or five days.
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that's how long it will take before they can get to some cars. there's a jeep liberty upside down there right about here. then there's a motor home, a 30-foot motor home, it was 34 feet and now i can touch the wheel base. it's crumpled. >> we'll continue to watch that story. another one we are watching very closely. u.s. president barack obama is in brussels for summit with european leaders. >> in just a few hours he will lay a wreath where hundreds of u.s. soldier who is died in world war i are buried. mr. obama said russia is not the top security challenge facing america. >> russia is a regional power that is threatening some of its immediate neighbors. not out of strength but out of
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weakness. they don't pose the number one national security threat to the united states. i continue to be much more concerned when it comes to our security with the prospect of a nuclear weapon going off in manhattan. >> three u.s. secret service agents are in hot water after a night of drinking in amsterdam. >> it happened earlier this week before president obama arrived. one of the agents was found passed out by staff in the hallway. >> agents on official trips are prohibited from drinking alcohol ten hours prior to reporting for duty. we'll take a short break. ukraine is not just facing a build up along the russian border. >> we'll have more on that when we come back. can tens of millions of users be enough to wet investors appetite. this producer of this popular online game hopes so.
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they have been married for ten years. >> they say they love each other but will consciously uncouple and co-parent their two children. so many fans flocked to her website to read the news it apparently crashed. the search efforts for missing flight 370 continues to be hampered by another storm that's on the horizon now. >> let's get the first now. >> this next storm system i'm watching resembles a lot of what we saw on tuesday that halted operations in this region. this is the first that caused the mess in the past 24 hours. the washing machine cycle that folks have been describing the seas within the search area, the seas upwards of some areas 13 feet as far as the swells are concerned. the front is pushing up. notice the area of thunderstorms
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pushing up. that's a post-thunder that develops after the fronts exit the picture. it reduce visibility and more localized swells beginning to pick up. the aircraft out here are some aircraft, we know they have radar capabilities on board. the signal is about 50 miles away from the aircraft. you see the winds at this hour generally speaking about 25 to 30 miles per hour. about 50 or so kilometers per hour. as i take you through thursday afternoon about 2:00 in the amp the winds get up to 70 to 80 kilometers. take a look. conditions seem to want to improve a little bit as we head toward friday. cloud cover will be present and we know initially with thursday thunderstorm heavy rainfall will be a concern. with all the technology, if you don't have a visual ability it's going to make it extremely
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visible to look down at the surface and see what's going on. the concern remains there with the next storm coming in on thursday and then improvoufimpr conditions come friday afternoon. you look at the scenes the look not what you want to see. we know they can get low, 300 feet above the water. it's still not going to be safe enough once this thursday's storm moves in. a difficult few days with this storm coming in. >> will this be the pattern we'll see? will it be suspended for a day until the weather clears? >> i believe so. it looks like we might get a little more improvement from friday into saturday. this time of year storms at this latitude pick up. the pattern will become more consistent. we'll take a short break. there's been anger on the streets of egypt after a court
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the prosecution rested its case on tuesday after presenting testimony from 20 witnesses over 15 days. the first witness for the defense on friday could be the double amputee track star himself. he admits he shot and killed his girlfriend, but he says it was an accident. >> text messages between pistorius and steenkamp may have been the most dramatic so far. >> we take a closer look at whether the prosecution has provided a convincing case. >> reporter: after three and a half weeks at the high court the state had rested its case. with us is kelly, cnn's legal analyst. how successful were they? >> arguably not very successful at all up until the final few days. before then they hadn't really
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strung the refuted pistorius' versions of events. that's not strong enough to meet the burden of beyond a reasonable doubt. finally they came forward with more compelling evidence. >> which were messages, very personal, private between reeva and oscar. >> i think what was probably the worst for pistorius' cause was the picture of him being painted as a possessive boyfriend. these messages occur in the context of all of the other messages. the witness himself stated there were over 1700 messages and the
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negative ones only compromised about four messages. that will all be weighed in the balance. at least finally the state has given some plausible surrounding explanation for why pistorius may have intentionally killed his girlfriend which up until they they haven't managed to. >> going forward, it's not over yet for the state? >> absolutely not. i think it's quite clear at this point that the state's strategy up until now has been to meet the bare minimum standard in order to get pistorius' team to need to present their case. they themselves have called their case circumsubstantial from the beginning and it's circumstantial at best. once he takes stand, you can expect they will attack him in cross-examination and hope to win their case that way. >> he possibly could take the
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stand first. >> absolutely. ahead, we'll have more on our top story, the search for malaysia airline flight 370. >> we'll look at that ping, the plane's final attempt of communicating with the satellite. what does it mean for the investigation? the actions of three dare devils raises new security concerns at america's tallest building.
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you're watching cnn news room. we'll like to welcome our viewers back in the united states and around the world. >> we'll check the headlines now on top stories. ships and aircraft from six countries are taking advantage of good weather to look for debris from malaysia airline flight 370. they're scouring 80,000 square kilometers of the southern indian ocean. an american black box locater
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arrived in perth a few hours ago. >> up to 24 people died in saturday's land slide. eight of the bodies have still not been recovered. at least 176 people remain unaccounted for. south korea's defense ministry says north korea has test fired two baa listist missiles. it happened as they sat down for three-way talks at the hague. the u.s. state department called the latest missile test firings threatening. it's urging pyong to urge from further launches. the search operation to find what's left of malaysia flight 370 have been facing big op s
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obstacles. australia's defense minister talked about the challenges of organizing what is a multi-national effort. >> it's a very, very difficult task. this deployment that you can see behind me and all the aircraft i've named is probably one of the largest you'll see in maritime survival and joint operations. >> another part of the search is taking place for away from the indian ocean in front of computer screens. there's also this criminal investigation by law enforcement officials there in malaysia. where does that stand right now? >> reporter: one of the frustrating things about reporting this story is the fact that authorities aren't sharing a lot of details with us. we have been trying to get to the bottom of this since two weeks ago now. we saw the police. i was standing out the co-pilots
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home when they came out with shopping bags full of evidence that they took away with them for inspection. we know that they have taken away the hard drive from the first officer's home. they wanted to take a look at. we know they have taken away the flight simulator in the captain's home. what they did with that was they had rebuilt it, analyzed it. initially they said they found nothing untoward or unusual but they sent it to the fbi in the united states. a lot of files were deleted on it. we know that the fbi is still looking at those files. we haven't heard any details of what's happening with that. with the knowledge we believe that the flight did end its journey in the indian ocean and was lost now at sea. all those people on board lost
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with it. they will probably be look at the flight simulator's work out. what was inside those deleted files. every time we ask in a press conference here, can you share the cargo manifest with us? can you tell us about the investigation into every single passenger and crew member on board? they tell us that's where the investigation we cannot share it at this time. john. >> i read that the police chief there is concerned it may jeopardize the investigation saying this could take up to a year for any concrete results which leads us to essentially the satellite data which we have been looking at and there's word there's this partial ping from the triple seven right before tend of its flight. what does that mean for the investigation? >> reporter: yeah, this remains a bit of a mystery. the wall street journal reported earlier today that a partial
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ping or the handshake that basically connects the aircraft with the satellite but helps investiga investigators trace the path of mh370 that led us to the search in the indian ocean. what we understand there was one final partial ping, which means there was an attempt to connect but it didn't fully connect. what the wall street journal is saying is that this did not, does not mean that this was human intervention. it wasn't someone on board trying to reconnect and switch it back on in an attempt to make one final communique with people throughout. this remains a mystery as to what that was and why it exists. it does also indicate that somewhere a more kind of detailed understanding with not just the area where the plane was but also the timing that was
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so essential so leading up to this investigation to what happened on board is that somewhere between 8:11 a.m. and 9:00 in the morning that plane disappeared over the indian ocean. that's what we know about these handshakes, but it still remains a mystery as to what is behind this partial handshake. john. >> there are many moving parts to this story. sometimes it movers quickly and other times it's standing still. thank you for that. >> for the families of the 239 people on board that search is frustrating and seemingly end less. >> there's little they can do but wait and wonder. how do you explain this to your children and family? >> we spoke with the wife of one passenger who does not know what to say to their children. >> reporter: she's having hard time stringing the words together to make a sentence. she's gripped by unrelenting
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sadness. her husband was on the flight that officials now say disappeared somewhere over the indian ocean. she cannot bring herself to tell her one and 5-year-old boys waiting back in beijing that their daddy may not come home. >> translator: i don't dare to. i have no courage. every day i'm scared to call my sons because once i could them they will cry out daddy, mommy and my heart can't handle it. i don't want to hurt my children. >> reporter: sitting in a hotel room she cannot bring herself to accept that her husband is dead even after malaysian airlines and government officials said all 239 people on board are gone forever. >> what did you love about him? >> translator: there's lot offense reasons i loved him. he's very considerate, takes care of me. >> reporter: she's soft spoken.
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she said she does not have faith in anything the malaysian government or airline have to say anymore. >> some of the families have had some harsh words for the government. the airline is also responsible for the deaths of their family members. do you feel that way? >> translator: yes. i think the same. they have been hiding the truth even though they know. she and her husband looked for a bit of fun and sun in a tropical paradise. it doesn't work out that way. her husband needed to take a short business trip back to beijing. she decided to stay and wait for him in malaysia. she's still here waiting. >> and so many other stories like that. moving back to this search effort and if debris from the boeing 7, the triple 7 is found. the pofocus of that search will
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move under water. >> that's where an expensive u.s. device will come into play. it arrived in perth a few hours ago. we see how it will look for the plane's black boxes. >> reporter: the u.s. navy has only two of these high-tech listening devices and one of the them is heading to the indian ocean to help find the missing plane. it's called a toad pinger locater. the mission is to find the black box with the important data recordings before the pingers die out. that's in less than two weeks. >> think of your cell phoner. if you lose your cell phone you can call it and hear it ringing and you narrow down your search. >> reporter: cnn has a rare look inside phoenix international where the locater is made. it helped recover wreckage from air france flight. once plane debris is found the pinger locater with the fin on top is towed slowly through the
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area. it can go down to 20,000 feet below the surface. for hours and miles at a time it's listening sbenintently for black box. >> how far away? >> the outside edge is two miles. it can defect the sound. >> reporter: if the pinger's battery is fading it can still detect it. >> the signal will come up. you can see here's a cable. it runs up through the umbilical and comes into our receiver unit. we have a speaker on here and all the power buttons. we adjust the frequency. out of this box we have a computer set up that represents the si the signal from the beacon. >> reporter: a team on deck deploys other saassets. once the toad pinger locater finds the black box, this is the
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machine that can recover it. this remotely operated vehicle that can go very deep in the ocean with manipulator arms and pick up all sorts of debris and a black box. this one recovered the black box and the undersea wreckage for air france flight. every moment is critical. >> until they recover this data, it's still a mystery. they will not know what happened. >> reporter: without a confir d ed sighting why not put a lot on the ships the manufacturers say there's a few of these in the world and very expensive to deploy. an egyptian court has adjourned a second mass trial of almost 700 supporters of deposed president morsi. the trial will resume next month. >> this comes a day after the court sentenced 529 muslim
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backers to death. across egypt demonstrations broke out against those sentences which the court handed down after a two-day long trial. >> amnesty international and the united states also spoke out against the death sentences. >> we cannot and should not entertain the prospect that a two day trial results in the sentencing of 529 people to death could respect safe trials guaranteed by international law. we are making clear that these verdicts cannot be allowed to stand. the government of egypt should be taking actions to increase the freedoms and not to suppress them. we'll take another break. still ahead, venezuela's president says three high ranking military officers were helping to plan a coupe. also an opposition leader loses her seat in venezuela national assembly.
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welcome back. there are more side offense political unrest in venezuela. >> three air force generals are under arrest for planning a coup. it's the latest move following a crack down on the deadly street protest that left 36 people dead. >> an outspoken opposition lawmaker has been scooped of her mandate and is under investigation. she's been strongly critical.
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tensions between ukraine and russia are in the spotlight in the u.s. congress. >> the senate has voted to formally take up legislation to provide $1 billion in loan guarantees to ukraine as well as to sanction moscow. they got bogged down over proposed reforms over how the u.s. would provide money for the international monetary fund. >> senate majority leader harry reid says those provisions will be taken out to speed up passage. >> i feel very strongly about imf reform. we need to get that done and we need to get it done just as quickly as we can. this bill is important. as john kerry said yesterday, he wants both of them. the main thing is to get the aide now and i'm following his lead. >> you yukraine's finance minis says he is negotiating for 15 to $20 billion in loans. >> he said they have been
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battered by months of political turmoil as well as mismanagement. >> reporter: look beyond regime change. look beyond crimea and ukraine's economy as been in need of help for years. one big issue, corruption, which even the government of the orange revolution in 2005 could not tackle. >> the nature of the economy really didn't do much but send it into in fighting, hence the corruption state. >> reporter: to see just how damaging corruption has been to ukraine, ukraine ranked 144th. poland is 38. ahead of spain and italy. economy-wise, poland and ukraine
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were of similar size at the break up of the soviet union. the international monetary fund has been holding talks to help ukraine right through the crisis in kiev and the annexing of crimea. that's led to speculation of how much money ukraine would need to stabilize the economy. >> we need to rely on facts and the situation as it is. we do not see anything that's critical. we will certainly hope that authorities refrain from throwing lots of numbers which are really meaningless until they have been assessed properly. >> reporter: those assessments have been taken and the imf will make recommendations this week. with this imf money comes imf tough medicine. they will have to make pledges
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on corruption, transparency, budgets. >> this is what they need. i believe if ukraine would adopt these standards of accountability it would gravely help these nations. >> reporter: given the fact that any financial help for ukraine will have to come from the west and not its biggest neighbor today eato the east, russia. u.s.-russia tensions over crimea have not impacted two nations cooperation in out of space. >> five, four, three, two, one, ignition. and we have a liftoff. liftoff on a six-hour journey to the international space station. >> you heard the names there. lifting off. they were due to dock at the
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international space station just a short time ago but a thruster problem has delayed their rival until thursday. time for another break here. when we come back, a hair raiding leap from a skyscraper. >> why it's raising big questions about america's national security. you may remember the international uproar when a zoo put down a healthy giraffe. get ready to be out raijed again. doesn't treat all that. it doesn't? [ male announcer ] alka-seltzer plus fights your worst cold symptoms plus has a fast-acting antihistamine. oh, what a relief it is! plus has a fast-acting antihistamine. here, announcer: athe moment babies are born, their brains are forming the connections that determine how they learn...think...and grow.
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you may remember the out ranl last month when a danish zoo put down a healthy giraffe and publicly fed its remains to lions. >> the coppenhagen zoo said it killed the giraffe to prevent inbreeding and may be facing another controversy. it's put down two elderly lions and two cubs. >> it said that's to make room for a new male lion. they said they could not find a home for the elderly lions and it said the male lion would probably have killed the cubs. >> this time no pictures of the animal being put down. >> i guess they are learning. >> and cut up into pieces and fed to the lions which is what happened last time. >> they continue on. three dare devils jumped with parachutes from the new one world trade center. ground zero of the 9/11 attack.
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some people call it crazy. >> some say it's disrespectful and it's raising questions about security at the new york landmark. dave evans has more. >> reporter: it's a jaw dropping view from the top of the world trade center site and then they plummet to the street below. their dark parachutes unfurling behind them. >> everybody has their thing. this is our thing. >> reporter: after a short prayer and the jump they glide through lower manhattan. they quickly hide the parachute so how did they get in. brady used to work construction at the site. >> we found spot where the cameras were not picking up and there happen to be a hole in the fence there as well. >> reporter: the men were charged with a variety of felony crimes including burglary and trespassing. it was back on september 30th when three men got to the tallest building in the nation, the world trade center tower and
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jumped. a fourth man remained on the ground acting as a lookout. now security is basic worry at the sight. just last week a 16-year-old got through a hole in the fence and got to the top of the tower snapping photos. >> no no way did we intend to disrespect the police, the city, the victims of 9/11. >> reporter: the jumpers say they never meant to go public with their stunt. it was supposed to be just for them. police use add snippet from a nearby security camera to help break the case. >> it's six months after the fact and we were a little bit shocked they spent that much time and energy continuing to pursue something they knew were not a terroristic act. >> reporter: it opens in a few weeks. >> that was dave evans of wabc reporting. an attorney for one of the jumpers says his client described how easy it was to get
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into the building. >> it's one of the first things my client said to me is how surprised he was at how there was no security what so ever and how easy it was to walk right up there. something the mayor has just described add the number one terrorist target in the world. >> did they encounter any security? >> none. none at all. >> one world trade center is the tallest build ng the united states. companies are expected to begin working out of this new building later this year. >> certainly alarming, isn't it? >> yeah. >> they that would get in so easily and a number of incidents. >> guess sturt needs to be tightened. we'll move to the weather.
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>> expecting we have had a few flurries reported in new york city tonight and know showers scattered about around boston. about 20 flights cancelled out of boston logan. 50% of the flights out of halifax and nova scotia have been cancelled. this storm again remaining offshore. notice the coastal regions just get a few flakes out of it but very strong winds associated with this. we know property damage around portions of nova scotia will be significant estimated to be upwards of 30 to 40 feet. the morning hours of wednesday. this is kilometer per hour. staying up late in boston or new york there's no need to be worried. this will not be hurricane force. it's about 50 miles per hour with wind gusts when it comes to afternoon conditions.
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halifax gets up to hurricane force by afternoon hours. very dangerous storm system when it comes to the sheer wind speeds associated with it. quickly want to take you out towards western portion of washington. the search efforts taking place. you see the before and after perspective out here. this occurring on saturday. we know fatalities about 24 now and missing people up towards of 176. one thing to note here, if the fatalities get up to 25, this would be the deadliest since 1982 as far as landslides in the u.s. nationally about 25 feet lose their lives to land slides every single year. it shows that this many people already being confirmed this puts it in a unique area as far as landslides. >> the concern is it will move above 25. >> with the amount of people missing, yeah.
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