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that investigation continuing. remember, you can always follow us on twitter, tweet me @wolf blitz blitz blitzer. thanks for watching. erin burnett "outfront" starts right now. next breaking news investigators focusing on a pilot and co-pilot tonight. what exactly happened in the cockpit of mh-370. the usa day report says the pilot was to blame. new satellite images shows 122 objects floating in the water. and breaking news from the pentagon tonight new intelligence just coming in showing russia close to invading. let's go "outfront". good evening, everyone. i'm erin burnett. we begin "outfront" with the breaking news. the focus into the missing
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malaysian flight 370 is on the pilot and co-pilot of the plane. the fbi is now assessed the pilot and co-pilot's hard drive including from the pilot's flight simulator. now official involved in the investigation tonight tells "usa today" that the pilot is in the papers words, quote, believed to be solely responsible for the flight being taken hundreds of miles off course. the official says it was not an accident. also at this hour it is now daybreak in australia and the search in southern indian ocean is resuming. new satellite images show 122 objects floating. this is the biggest debris field, the highest number we've heard about so far. these objects range from three feet in size to 75 feet in length. they are scattered over an area the size of denver. the images were taken sunday on a search of the area though hours ago nothing was found.
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unrelated to the satellite images three objects were spotted by two aircraft but then as they passed over they were unable to relocate those objects. just showing you how things move, how things sink, how difficult this is. pamela brown has been following this today. there's focus on the pilot and co-pilot but big question is there any kind of a smoking gun? >> reporter: right now sources are telling me no there's no smoke gun and they are really going over everything. i've been speaking with sources that said after the fbi's preliminary review that hard drive data there hasn't been anything that jumps out at them that would suing guest premeditated act by the pilots. at this point, at this stage there's no clear cut evidence of a motive or that the pilots were planning the plane's disappearance. this is an ongoing investigation. we learned from a source in malaysia telling cnn that after a search of the pilot's home there wasn't anything that was turned up such as a suicide note
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that, again, would suggest a motive or anything like that. we heard from the fbi director earlier today speaking to a congressional committee. he said the hard drive that's been at the lab in quantico will be handed over to malasians in the next day or two and teams are still working around the clock. this is a large volume of data they are going through. their hope is though even we haven't found the smoke gun from that hard drive that it will give clues, leads perhaps to follow up on regarding the pilot's background such as finances, communication, emotional state. however i want to make it clear those, that nothing is being ruled out and sources are still looking at the two men in the cockpit as one of my sources said that's still a top priority. >> thank you very much. joining me is world news editor for "usa today" along with richard quest, our cnn aviation special miles o'brien. great to have all of you with us. william, let me start with you,
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with this new report out of "usa today". what exactly is your reporting at this hour on the pilots? >> well, we have a senior law enforcement official who has been involved with the investigation since day one who says that they believe that the pilot was the one who was solely responsible for what happened to the plane. they believe the act was deliberate. based on not only how the plane was diverted and what had to be done to do that but also through process elimination where they checked into the backgrounds of the passengers, they don't believe anybody on board was capable of doing such a thing. they also looked into the co-pilot, relatively young although has had experience remember not a lot on a 777. so it's their conclusion for now that they believe that it was the pilot who did something here. >> the pilot not the co-pilot. anything in terms of motive? as you heard pamela saying u.s. officials focusing on pilot and co-pilot but have not found any
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kind of a smoke gun or any motive. >> that's right. kevin johnson at "usa today" has talked to federal official who said they looked at the hard drive. and they found absolutely nothing in there that would indicate a plan to retrout plane. the malaysian police themselves and it's a very professional force that they have at kuala lumpur, has looked into his finances, the pilot that is. also looked into whether he's had any ties to militancy and found nothing so far. >> let me ask you, william, your paper source as you said high ranking officer attached to special investigative branch, the malaysian police force and they are saying it's the pilot. there are any concerns you have as an editor the malaysian government could be forcing blame on the pilot, he was a known support of the opposition party as an example to say look this guy did it without really knowing. do you have any concern about that possibility? >> there's always a possibility with the ruling party in
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malaysia. but this is dealing with law enforcement. the law enforcement people and the person we spoke to in particular has a long record in the agency. he's with a special branch, it's their version of the fbi. he's worked on many investigations in the past. so, we're not aware of any plot to tie the plot in such a way. >> john, babsed on what we know and what you hear william say does it sound like a logical condlougs that the pilot may have been responsible? >> i think both pamela and william said the same thing it's a process elimination and that's correct. i can't see at this point that we have any evidence that has come to the public at least that says that it is the captain versus the first officer. i agree the first officer was very inexperienced but we do know a pilot had to do this. we do know there was a lot of sophistication required. if they are telling us there
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were no other pilots on board by process elimination it comes down the captain and the first officer. >> you were making the point if it goes in this direction, the co-pilot's experience on a simulator would have been excellent given how new he was. >> yeah. look, we are now well and truly into deeply unpleasant territory. and, you know, with all due respect to william and "usa today" article is basically judge and jury from the source in malaysia of an unnamed police officer who has basically decided he's now going to convict almost the captain on the grounds of method and elimination of anybody else. basically that's what they've done. they basically said looking at what they did, and could it be anybody else. therefore, it must be him.
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and in doing so we basically just -- now, you know, the first officer he was new. he was inexperienced on the 777. he had a few hours, many hours, 2,000 hours on a 773. he would have just come from the simulator. so he would have known the system backwards and forwards and new captains like flying with new fos because they know the technology backwards. but as to just deciding to run up the flagpole, an allegation against a captain on the basis of method and elimination, we have to make our own judgments. >> william, let me give you a chance to respond to that. you went through the vetting process in terms of this source. what made you feel comfortable with this? >> the source that's been involved in many investigations in kuala lumpur, specifically some anti-terrorism investigations, the country has a good record on that.
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and no one is saying that he's absolutely the one right now. but what they are saying is they are to discussion on him, they believe he's the one who there's no one else on that plane who was capable of doing the manipulations that we know that occurred. so they are, indeed forks cussing -- focusing on him. there are relatives that may know more about this than they are saying. so they are trying to press them to come up with more details about his activities to see if there's anything that could have possibly given an indication that this was going to happen. >> all right. thanks very much to awful. obviously our panel will be with us through the hour. i have a question i want to get to miles but we'll be talking more about this later. up next new satellite images this shows more than 100 objects scattered across the water. why is it so hard to find when the ship comes in.
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final partial ping you heard so much about. it came from the plane but it was what they called sort of a half ping. we'll explain exactly what that is and why it could be a game changer in the search. and st. race against time. a construction worker trapped in a burning building about to collapse. this video, someone standing there, she was on her way back from lunch, she was there and filmed this. we have that coming up. ♪ [ male announcer ] when fixed income experts... ♪ ...work with equity experts... ♪ ...who work with regional experts... ♪ ...who work with portfolio management experts,
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breaking news in the hunt for flight 370. search planes right now en route 1500 miles from the coast of australia to a site in the southern indian ocean. what they are looking for is the debris from new satellite images. these satellite images taken a couple of days ago. new debris, 122 objects scattered across the water ranging from three feet to 75 feet. this possible debris field covers the size of denver. ate rapidly moving target when they then send planes to look it hasn't been there. ships to look it hasn't fwlen. today planes saw something. flew over it again themselves and it was gone. tom foreman is out front. conditions affect this search. sees something today, flies back over and gone. that's an incredible statement about the weather and currents. >> very, very touch out there, erin, no question about that. they are excited about these images for a couple of reasons.
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honestly this looks like the debris field from an airplane crash. it may not be but has the signature look it and because it has that look, even as they try to get closer to it it allows them to focus their search area and that's something they desperately need. let me explain what i'm talking about here. remember when you have a big area like this and the overall southern area is 621,000 square miles you have to path grid over it and decide which sections you're going search. they are not going to be of all the same value. some are considered more likely to produce results. sorry red here and others not so much. if you thought the plane went in early and didn't glide much you might push your search zone to one area, up north. this evidence makes the opposite happen. it makes the focus look way down at the far end. it makes them push down towards the end and push that big search zone down there. bear in mind, we made the plane big here so you can see it.
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in reality this plane would be a speck up here, very, very small. that search zone down there is still too, too big. this kind of debris can help them narrow it down so something much more manageable and start calculating the drift patterns to see if it came from hundreds or maybe even a thousand miles away. >> so, the currents, let's talk how extreme they can. when i heard about the plane flying over the space and coming back doing a swoop through and the object is gone. it does seem to indicate things move very quickly. >> yeah they certainly can. this is the collision points between the indian ocean and orchestrate tick sea. so, if we bring in this global view from the national oceanic and atmospheric administration these are time lapses of current flows around the world. we go past australia and this is taking us into the very area we're talking about here.
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that's where the search zone is. look at all these conflicting currents in that area and i'll guarantee you they are not all the same on the surface and below so generally, though everything is sort of moving to the east, you may notice the band up above where it moves the.direction this makes it very hard to predict, erin. where this stuff is at any given moment, let alone where it might have come from. erin. >> amazing. as i say a part of the world so remote in terms of the seaworld. the debris and the blurry satellite images could be wreckage but investigators acknowledge they could be something else. garbage. charles moore is merchant mile-an-hour captain and founder of the research institute. he spent an incredible amount of time researching garbage in the oceans. i remember once off the coast of panama beautiful blue water and incredible amount of trash i've ever seen. first time i realized how filthy the ocean can be. how much garbage is out there in
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the indian ocean where these crews are searching. >> a conservative estimate might be a tenth of the world ocean's plastic load and that if you use a figure pulled from the air of 200 million tons which is bantied about you might come up with 20 million tons of debris justin indian ocean alone. >> i mean that's pretty impossible to fathom. what kind of garbage could be showing up in the satellite images if that inyazeed possibility. >> could you have a broken, one of the millions of plastic chairs that we see around us every where. you know these chairs are weight, they break, they become refuse and the ocean is downhill from every where. debris like that can make its way into the ocean. this may look suggestive from the air or a series of pieces like this could definitely fool an investigator into think they
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really found something significant. >> when you look at that shape, absolutely. miles o'brien is with us also. miles you do think this is a credible lead the objects on the satellite images when you put this together in your role as an aviation expert. >> when you look at the size and shape of what was discovered, some of it on the order of 70 feet we're told, and then the shape meaning, you know, it has the swoop of a wing, you know, maybe we're trying to find an airplane in what is a pile of garbage. the fact that there's that much in that particular area leads us to believe we found something given all the other things we've been thinking about. >> kmoirks charles, you think that's certainly reasonable. what about how quickly this debris, let's just use that word right now, debris may move? >> well, it not only moves spacially which you're thinking along the surface it moves
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vertically. a breaking wave can drive this stuff down below the surface where it's no longer visible from the air. surface of the ocean has little wavelets that's reflective. makes it extremely difficult if you ever try to look into the water with the sun at a low angle. if you threw a net into the ocean you come up with different bits of plastic. like in this jar this is indian ocean broken bits of plastic. they turn into fragments. by the time this stuff disintegrates due to photo degradation it becomes chips and that's what we're finding throughout the ocean maybe an average of 100,000 to a million of these chips per square kilometer. they washed up on beaches in a way. they wash up on beaches in australia. the ocean is a plastic soup and
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the larger objects could be from container ships, they could be from docks, boats. all those things could be part of this confounding litter in the ocean. >> thank you very much. certainly a real wake up call. still to come final partial ping from the plane. why it's the key to the investigation. and was it a suicide mission? that is the big question for investigators tonight. nascar is about excitement. but tracking all the action and hearing everything from our marketing partners, the media and millions of fans on social media can be a challenge. that's why we partnered with hp to build the new nascar fan and media engagement center. hp's technology helps us turn millions of tweets, posts and stories into real-time business insights
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more of the breaking news tonight involving the disappearance of malaysian flight 370. u.s. officials says the fbi has the captain and first officer's hard drives including the drive from the captain's flight simulator. results are expected to be handed over to malaysian officials in a day or two. this comes as we're learning more about this crucial moment, the final perhaps minute or less of flight for this flight 370. there was a partial ping, this was picked up by a satellite. last communication from the missing jet. we use the word partial it started but didn't finish. could this be the clue that tells us where this plane landed
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into the water? martin savidge is out front with the final clue. martin we use this word ping. you know, ate pretty complicated thing what we're talking about. this could be incredibly significant this use of the word partial ping. >> reporter: right. as we know there were at least six pings that came from the aircraft during its flight that have been analysised by the folks at inmarsat that came up with this fact that the plane went on this southern trajectory and able to discern this plane went into the southern indian ocean. if you find that last ping it's believed to have been transmitted very close to the end of the life of the aircraft. find where that ping is in theory then you would be in the neighborhood, i won't say right on top but in the neighborhood of where that plane went down. not where the debris is that you're finding but maybe where that plane went into the water and of course it's the plane that has the black boxes that
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has the information that could be key to solving what happened. >> so kit tell you where it went into the water but you're implying due to time, currents, everything else it wouldn't thereabout but give you a point it started here and now the debris field would be somewhere out from there? >> reporter: well the debris field does not have the black boxes. the black boxes are still attached to the aircraft itself. it would have gone down in the water, but because of the depth it would have drifted with currents under water. it wouldn't go straight down. but it would be easier to locate that air frame on the ocean floor instead of trying to back track debris that's been blown hundreds of miles and all sorts of different trajectories and eddies by the currents. this could be very beneficial to finding the physical plane wreckage under the water. the other question is why that partial ping? you know, a lot of mystery about that and the belief is because
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it came so quickly after a full ping that somehow half a ping is associated with the final event of that airplane. what is it we don't know. one theory is the engines that generate electricity could have run out of fuel as we believe they did and once they did the power in this airplane stopped. was interrupted. at least for a moment. but then there's something called a little propeller that pops up and the wind motion from the airplane would generate. your cell phone shuts down from the moment you power back up it begins searching to make a connection. and maybe that half ping was trying to make that connection but before it could fully do it, the plane stops. >> all right. martin savidge thank you very much. he made that very clear. i know a lot of people had questions not just about the partial ping but why it's so
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ing tonight the breaking news, investigation into the missing malaysian airline flight 370. there's a new report tonight out of usa day which quotes a high ranking malaysian police source saying investigators narrowed their suspicions to the captain and that they believe he quote deliberately redirected the plane. senior u.s. government officials tell cnn investigators are still looking at both the captain and co-pilot and don't yet see a motive. here's what we know so far about two men in the cockpit on that ill fated night. the captain was a veteran pilot, been with malaysian airlines since 1981. 18,365 flying hours on the 777. he was so trained he supervised new pilot training. shah was married with three children and a grandchild. his wife routinely stayed at a
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smaller house with relatives. captain was a supporter of the opposition leader. he attended the pro democracy rallies. the fbi is investigating a home made flight simulator they seized from his house. they have access to the hard drive and have not found a smoke gun. pilot did make a phone call eight minutes before take off, 777 pilot says this took place after the door was shut. we don't know the motive or froern this phone call. the co-pilot. he was young. only 27 years old. he joined malaysian airlines back in 2007. he through the 737. he lived with his parents. he was engaged to marry a woman he met at flight school. he flew the 777 five other times before this flight. they confirm this was in fact his first flight, his first
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flight without a checked co-pilot supervising him. perhaps they felt comfortable he was with a pilot so seasoned. joining me world news editor for u.s. today, aviation analyst. william, let me start with you again with your reporting that investigators are looking into the captain. you talk about how they are looking into relatives of the captain, trying to get information about his behavior, his state of mind. what are they looking for? i'm also curious about what your sources say why there had been such a delay in terms of interview, for example, the pilot's wife. >> they are trying to get more information out of relatives to determine if there's something there that other people have overlooked that may indicate why this event occurred. farce the wife goes, we're told that they would like to interview her more but at this time they haven't told us why it
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is they are having a problem with that. but they do believe that there are people that may be able to shed more light on things that happened leading up to this event that may give us a clue as to perhaps why the pilot would have been responsible for an act like this. >> miles, it's almost impossible to imagine, again, there's a lot of investigating still to be done so all we can say is at this point officials don't have a smoke gun really of the pilot or co-pilot. if indeed it does end up they are involved and if that's how this goes, and there was no smoke gun, and nobody says anything was wrong, that is a truly terrifying prospect that someone could commit an act like this and nothing outwardly would have seemed wrong. >> the perfect crime, if you will. i would caution everybody, this -- the pilot is the aviation equivalent of the butler. they are frequently blamed in these cases. it's frankly convenient for
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investigators to blame deceased pilots. so there's no evidence. there is no evidence. we can't rule it out. certainly high on the list of possibilities that the flight crew had something to do with this. but there's some other explanations that fit here. for a law enforcement official in malaysia to claim the 27-year-old first officer was incapable of doing this, he has no expertise in this. he just came out of his initial operating experience. he was probably as well schooled and well trained as anybody on that 777 at that time. so, that was certainly a maneuver that could have been done by the first officer. put it that way. >> john, you've been saying since the very beginning on this show you think this was intentional, that you believe this was deliberate, this was done by somebody who knew what they were doing. at this point, given that the information as to all the passengers names on this plane, the flight manifest, all has been made available to
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investigating authorities in the u.s. and other countries if it were not the pilots, if it was someone else on the plane, would we have a sense of this at this point? >> you would think you would. miles said that correctly. just because we narrowed it down or authorities narrowed it down to the captain and first officer doesn't mean we've proven the point and no pilot wants that be the case. but, i think that in terms of the passenger mode i'm not totally satisfied we've gotten the conclusion on anything here. anything including what the propensity of the passengers were. a pilot had to do this but it isn't necessarily the two guys up front. >> that's interesting that he says that. john referenced two other times this happened. one was egypt air which was flying from new york to cairo. flight 990 and silk air 195 an
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asian regional carrier. also both pilots suicide. both, though, crashed in the way you might expect a pilot suicide if one could use those wore, nose dive. this is not that. this is something completely and utterly different and very difficult comprehend when you couple it with at least at this point no outward signs of a problem. this is a bizarre suicide. >> so many things that have been bizarre about this case. when it first happened and we first had a ftantalizing bits o information the pilot was the first suspect. the intentional turn and the way it was flown along well known flight paths it clearly indicated someone knew what they were doing. could it have bean different pilot but given the way the cockpit doors are locked these days there's a huge barrier, physically and mentally to get
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from the passenger cabin to cockpit. >> there would have been some sort of reporting on that. i realize that's possible. it's not the case. john, as a reporter who has been covering this, what's the latest that you know? >> well the latest we know is we still don't know a lot. that's the problem with this entire story. the mystery is continuing to unravel in a way that's only presented more questions than it has answers. i think i said it 10,000 times to both editors, readers, and on your network that the list of things that we don't know is still so much longer than the list of things we do know. looking at either the crew or a mechanical failure still is so up for grabs in so many different potential theories and scenarios that if you begin to establish one theory, you invariably will drive additional questions into that theory where it falls apart whether mechanical or related to the crew. there's no one set of
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information that we're all working from that is entirely clear. a lot of this has come out again, you know, in the way we've done our reporting through those who are briefed on the investigation, we're familiar with it and certain lei what we've tried do is be factual in terms of piecing together from what happened from the moment just before that airplane crossed the coast over thailand made its turn to the west and then what we now know has been this long path south to the indian ocean. again, so many more questions than we have ans. >> william, from your source again which is in the, as you described it earlier, the fbi equivalent of the malaysian government, what is your source saying is the reason that they are settling on the pilot as opposed to anyone else on the plane that could have had piloting experience or the 27-year-old co-pilot? >> they just believe that the co-pilot wouldn't have been able to do several things they saw happen on that plane to
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manipulate it in such a way. at least that's their conclusion. and they also believe that no one in the cabin had that kind of skill as well. now, we don't know how great their vetting process is for the passengers, but they have gone through one and they believe that there's no one there who would have done it. >> miles, is there any way that -- go ahead. >> how do they know? i think that's -- i'm just not buying this at all. furs of all i do not believe the first officer couldn't pull that off. he's a 2700 hour pilot. it's not that complicated maneuver. >> evading the military. >> yes. he was new to the 777 but he was a reasonably seasoned young pilot who just came out of intensive training in that aircraft. i don't buy that for a moment. for a law enforcement official to say -- what does he know about aviation. now this other idea they somehow
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systematically eliminated the entire group of people sitting behind the pilot and the first officer and the captain that they completely eliminated them and ruled them out i don't buy that earth. these days you can get a flight simulator and a learn a lot flying a 777 sitting at home in your living room. let's not forget the 9/11 hijackers were pretty competent in doing what they did with very limited experience in simulators as well. >> that's a fair point. able to make turns. john, final word. >> i want to endorse what miles said to the co-pilot. that's an insult to first officer. first officer is capable of doing these things. we hope he didn't. he's capable of doing it. it's time to remind ourselves and remind everyone out this we still don't have any wreckage from the airplane. we don't know much of anything. everything is a possibility but there are shades of probability. that's why my probability has been on the side of pilot doing this but everything has to
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remain open until we get hard evidence and we're just not there. >> thanks very much to all of you. we appreciate it. "outfront" next the most dramatic individual yoft day. this is a construction worker trapped on a burning building. this build cigarette about to collapse. i want does. that person, you'll see what happens to him. breaking news tonight out of the pentagon. new fwlens on what russia is doing tonight with ukraine.
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>> oh, god. oh, god. get closer to him. >> hell he can jump there. good grief. >> look, look. >> they need to move that truck up. oh, my god. i think we should be going. >> jump for it, man. >> hell, yes. oh, thank, jesus. thank you god. oh, my god. oh, no, my god. >> karen jones is the woman you hear in the video. she was filming this. she's with me now. karen you were on your way back from lunch, right going back to
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work and all of a sudden you saw this. i hear you there, i hear you saying jesus. you're so scared. at the same time you seem calm too. >> well, i was coming back from lunch and initially i was over near my desk which is at the front of the building and i could see the billowing of smoke and little bit of flame. i went to a different location on our floor, on the southeast corner where the building was just adjacent get a better vantage point to see what was going on. it was just terrifying. it really of. we were all there at the window and we didn't see the worker initially. we just saw the flames on the roof. and i actually had started taping it and then i stopped my recording and then we looked around and saw this fellow on the ledge. its something you don't expect to see.
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to see that happen before your eyes. it was amazing. >> did you think that there was chance he would survive or think this is going to have a happy ending? >> i wasn't sure. it was very frightening. i was fearful for him when we saw him going back and forth on the ledge initially. he was a lot more calm than i would have been. definitely. i had to say i would think he was surveying the area to see what out he had. because the fire truck -- i don't think they initially saw him on the ledge. he was waving his arms and trying to get their attention. and so once they did see him there they immediately began moving the ladder over to get to him. but if you've noticed in the video behind him, the fire spread very quickly through that entire floor and out the side of the building. so if he had not moved down to the level below him, he would
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have been engulfed in flames. >> you see the glass coming down and obviously right as he's rescued there within seconds an entire floor of that building utterly collapses. >> yes. >> my question, karen, how were you able to stay so calm sunny must say your hand is incredibly stead steady. >> i wasn't as calm as i appeared to be, i think. but i really wanted to be able to capture this moment so that however i could get it out to the public for them to see. because i don't know that very many people saw him on the ledge there. because there was two -- of course two sides to the building. they were fighting fire on one side and then they had him on the other side and fighting the fire. i just wanted people to see that there is a -- i was hoping it would be a happy ending. i wasn't sure. but i was hoping it would be. just for folks to see that those firefighters are amazing workers. they do an amazing job. i don't think that they are
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recognized enough for what they do. >> all right. >> it was a surreal moment. >> thank you very much, karen. and thanks to karen's video, now this story is out there to see the heroism of that firefighter. let's check in with anderson on what's coming up on "ac 360." >> we're going to talk to the firefighter who was on that ladder encouraging that construction worker to jump onto the ladder saving his life. much more on the breaking news ahead on flight 370. 360 exclusive, are searchers closing in on the wreck? i'm joined by commander of the lead search vessel on the scene, hms success, an australian vessel. i'll ask about the 122 objects spotted at sea on a french satellite. she's on scene now. conflicting controversial reporting on whether the pilots at the controls of flight 370 intentionally took it into the indian ocean. we'll speak with our panel about that and give you the conflicting information and tell you where it's been reported from. we'll also go to washington state where search and recovery
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operations continue in the devastating landslide that wiped out an entire town. incredible survivor story ahead. a woman who survived as her home was rippeded off its foundation, essentially woed the wave of mud. she was buried in the mud in her own home. it's an incredible story of survival. as i said we'll talk to the captain who was out on that ladder trying to save the life of that construction worker in houston. all that top of the hour, erin. >> we'll see you in a few minutes. outfront next we have breaking news with new intelligence about russia and what it's doing right now on that ukraine border.
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breaking news now. new intelligence tonight showing russia appears more likely to invade ukraine. sources telling cnn at this hour officials are concerned about russian troops on the border. the number of troops, their capabilities bose surging. barbara starr broke the story. she's at the pentagon tonight. barbara, what's the latest that you know? >> reporter: good evening, erin. u.s. officials are telling me there is now a more likely probability that russia might go into ukraine than they thought several days ago. why are they saying this? there were 30,000 troops, russian troops on the border. that number is going up. there are other troops on alert, mobilized further back in russia. giving the russians the capability to move very quickly on a very robust spectrum of military capabilities, armor, artillery, air transports,
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special forces, airborne forces. they now could go into eastern ukraine officials say on literally no notice. there was a briefing for congress today. congress expressing alarm. and members of congress saying they are hearing now thought might even be more than ukraine, that russia might be looking to make some land grabs. their words in the baltics and even try for a breakaway republic in maldova. bringing all of this on a much wider scale, much more into the heart of europe. so there is very much growing concern about it. the russians, erin, had always said these troops were on that border for military exercises. a senior u.s. military official tonight tells me they have no evidence that russia even conducted military exercises, which tells you also the u.s. has all of this under very close surveillance. erin. >> pretty incredible. i wonder what the u.s. can do beyond surveillance. as barbara says, significant not just for ukraine but for latvia,
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lithuania, estonia and the breakaway province of maldova. tomorrow much more on flight 370. we'll take you onboard the navy's p 8 poseidon searching for wreckage in the indian ocean. we took you on board and showed you how it works. this might be what finds that wreckage. coming up tomorrow. right now anderson starts. good evening, everyone. it is 8:00 p.m. here on the east coast of the united states, 58 a.m. in kuala lumpur and in western australia. new developments in the search for wreckage of malaysia airlines flight 370. we'll speak exclusively of the captain in the lead ship on the search looking for 122 pieces of debris spotted by a french satellite. whether they're pieces from the plane we do not know. there's that and the search for answers in the mystery of what or who brought the plane down. it is back to that. who. back to the deeply troubling notion that only a member of the flight crew could have made the boeing 777 do what it