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up in malaysia. this is breaking news just this morning. the search area has now moved almost 700 miles northeast after new analysis that alters how much fuel was burned and how fast the plane was going. >> they are going into great detail about why they changed the search. they say it comes from a large working group from around the world and the search has been wasted on the -- based on the best information they've had up until now. the images could still be drifting debris. let's start with andrew stevens live in perth, australia. >> reporter: certainly getting news to the twists and turns. today, it really was a radical
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new turn. this morning, a major shift in the search for wreckage. australia moving their focus just over 680 miles northeast. australian authorities describing it as new and credible information. >> it indicates the plane was traveling faster than was previousliest mated resulting in increased fuel usage and reducing the possible distance it traveled south. >> reporter: this moves the search hundreds of miles closer to australia's coast, giving the planes more than the previous one to two hours of search time. >> the new search area remains considerable and the search conditions although easier than before, remain challenging. >> reporter: the new search area covering 123,000 square miles.
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the waters there reaching depths of about 2 1/2 miles. >> it needs to be continuely adjusted. and the likely drift of any wreckage floating on the ocean surface. >> reporter: the full search back on today after yesterday's weather. dedicated to the search, ten aircraft and six ships from six countries. australia also shifting their satellites to focus cameras on the new search area. >> we will put data marker buoys so that we know with accuracy where the water is moving. that provides us the best way to keep the search area confined. >> reporter: reporters ask if the previous search zones were a waste of time. >> this is the normal business of search and rescue operations.
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refined analysis take you to a different place. i don't count the original work as a waste of time. >> reporter: i think it's important to note from the malaysian press conference that the objects previously identified, five of them in all, could still be valid. they could have floated given the drift of the oceans up into that search zone. >> they did say they could have traveled hundreds of miles since the satellite images were taken. the search area now continues to move it seems day by day. andrew, thank you so much. let's talk more about this dramatic shift in the search. joining me now, a cnn safety analyst. he's also a former faa inspector. and david funk. good morning. a new day, a new shift in the
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investigation. david, first to you. this new search area, some 680 miles northeast. we're now almost three weeks in. does this surprise you. >> it really doesn't that much. i was so hopeful that those were parts. in fact, i had convinced myself i had saw aircraft parts in there. >> why doesn't it surprise you? >> because of the fact -- in fact i'm pleased about the fact that this group is starting to work together, really analyzing data, going back and rechecking themselves. you have to make sure that every day you check with each other, am i going off the wrong path. and to have the knowledge and the ability to re-evaluate this huge undertaking of going south and saying, look, we were wrong, let's move on. that's a huge advancement on this team. >> i want to talk about this question about were we wrong,
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wrong or refining the search. david, this came from, they believe, continued analysis that showed that the plane was traveling faster than previously was thought. if it's traveling faster, how is it traveling a shorter distance? explain this to me. >> because the fuel consumption is at a much higher rate. basically they've run out of gas. we said you go out to the furthest point the airplane could be and you work your way back. it looks like that's what's happening here. they're able to work back quicker because the data shows that perhaps this airplane did not fly as far. like david, i'm optimistic that as this group works together better and better, it looks like we might be getting closer to putting hands on pieces of airplane, which is really the
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important. it's nice to fly over it, but nothing like a ship pulling up and somebody in a boat pulling something out of the water to confirm we are in the right location. >> i assume all the satellite data, that was going to be thrown out the window with the shift in the search area. officials are saying that's not so much the case. do you believe that? >> yeah, absolutely. if you look at the math, now what you're talking about is a shorter distance which brings those points closer together. if the arc is slightly like this, as you get closer together, the arc gets sharper and closer. >> interesting. and one also interesting fact coming out this morning, david funk, this is coming from this working group. many international organizations
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coming to work on this including the faa, ntsb and boeing. would you assume that that information comes from a u.s. satellite, coming from u.s. intelligence? >> i'm not sure. i know that boeing has access to the best information in the world regarding the performance of the airplane. they built it. the question is what is the faa and ntsb bringing in. i wouldn't be surprised if we have subsets of information from all of them. we may see something further north that although not publicly shared, is shared among the closest allies in the world, the australians. >> how would fuel consumption change so dramatically from one look at the data to another? it almost makes you think they had a math calculation wrong and
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forgot to carry the wrong. >> it's the assumptions. any type of investigation, you're solving for x, you have to say a and b equals y. so at some point you have to re-evaluate your assumptions. i think that's what happened here. the faa has some of the best radar people in the world. the technology and the ability to take the smallest dot -- remember, they don't have information coming back from the airplane. there's thousands of dots they have to interpret. >> what does this tell us or at least tell you about maybe what was going on in the cockpit? does it tell you anything that the plane was traveling faster than originally thought? >> i would gather something, that is that the lower
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altitudes, your mock numbers will get a lot higher. perhaps the crew did what i thought originally, they were diverting to an emergency airport and just overwhelmed and incapacitated. it's going to fly along at whatever speed and altitude are in the auto pilot system and that very well may be what's happened here. it locked up at 275, 280 knots which is going to burn an awful lot of fuel at that altitude. australians also have that over the horizon radar. certainly that working group is going to know if they painted an aircraft with a south-southwest track across that area out at the limits of its range. >> this doesn't get us any closer to why the plane was
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going in that direction and what happened in that ko cockpit. we'll continue to speak with you through out the show. >> right now, president obama is on his way to saudi arabia. this is the final stop on his week-long overseas trip. he's meeting with the leader there. the saudis have interests of their own. good morning, michelle. >> reporter: ukraine crisis is not front and center anymore, but there's still many big, important pressing issues in that region. ones in which the u.s. and saudi arabia do not see eye to eye. they, of course, very worried
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about intability in that region and what the u.s. is doing or not doing to prevent it. they don't like, for example, that the u.s. reached out diplomatically to iran recently and that they have not intervened militarily in syria. human rights also obviously another place where these two powers do not agree. but things have changed dramatically in the region. in that shifting landscape, both saudi arabia and other gulf states want to hear from the u.s., what exactly our role will be moving forward and where priorities lie. let's take a look at the rest of your headlines. grim news is expected later this morning in the catastrophic mudslide in washington state. officially 17 people died in saturday's disaster. eight more bodies have been located but not recovered.
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they say the death toll is about to rise sharply. right now 90 people remain missing. the oscar pistorius murder tried postponed for ten days. he was set to take the stand this morning as the defense set to begin taking its case. the judge's assessor has been hospitalized. obamacare signup numbers hitting a big milestone. the administration says 6 million people have now enrolled and the numbers are surging as the end of the month draws near. health care.gov had 1.5 million visits wednesday. critics are dismissing a bridgegate investigation about chris christie.
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it found the governor knew nothing about the lane closures and blames two of his now fired aids. christie is expected to address the media today for the first time since january. the city of boston in mourning today for two firefighters killed in the line of duty. 33-year-old michael kennedy and 43-year-old edward walsh. last night, the boston brewers honored the pair. they brought the guard onto the ice while the national anthem was sung. a fitting tribute to boston's finest. >> the city's sports teams are so intertwined with the psyche of boston. they won that thing 3-0 by the way. the weekend is almost, i would argue, is upon us. let's get to jennifer gray in
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for indra petersons. >> we've had very cold air this week. now it's going to all change to rain. we have another storm system pushing across the country. the main component with this will be the severe weather. you can see rain already through atlanta even west virginia this morning. even snow in the higher elevations, but the severe weather is what we're watching. very warm, moist air from the gulf of mexico. large hail, damaging winds, possibility of an isolated tornado. it was a wild day yesterday. the focus today is going to be on the gulf coast. tomorrow, it's going to push to the east coast so the e veer weather threat lasts all the way through saturday. we are going to see a couple of showers push through the northeast on saturday. the bulk of the rain is going to
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be down to the south. rain all day from d.c., new york, even up into boston. it's going to try to push out on sunday, but still hanging around the area as of 11:00 p.m. but it's not going to have a lot of cold air behind it. temperatures stay in the 60s. the place to be this weekend is going to be denver. 70 degrees by sunday. >> at least my sister's going to be having a good weekend in denver. >> i was going to say the best place to be a under an umbrella. we're going to take a break. coming up next on "new day," more on the new search area. is this the break everyone's been waiting for. why the location is making the search effort easier. plus we'll speak with the partner of an american on board flight 370. she says she needs the evidence. the question is, will she ever
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all right. breaking news this morning as new information comes in for the search for flight 370. the search area has now shifted
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684 miles to the northeast. this comes from a large working group from around the world, including the ntsb, the faa, and boeing. here to analyze this is jeff wise who's been with us throughout this whole thing. let me show you the new search area. this is the old search area in green and the new search area up here in red. they call that a refinement. you don't buy that. >> that's not a refinement. that's a replacement. they're actually making the search area bigger and they're looking somewhere else. you have to look at that language a little bit skeptically. >> you've been looking at the inmarsat data which showed the plane coming down here south, having these periodic handshakes. to your credit, you've been saying all along that it's very possible they're searching in
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the wrong search area. >> basically they've been modelling the flight path on this inmarsat data. if you assume it was traveling at constant speed, you can see the arc. if you imagine it came out to the west and came to the south and flew at a certain speed, if we know the speed, we know the path that it took. pretty much you wind up in the green square with their assumption. we assume they had some data that would lead them to believe that. whatever that information was, that now seems to have been ruled out. all that stuff from the last week, throw it out the window. it was just junk in the ocean. this new area is maybe 400 knots. counter to what the press release said, the plane wasn't going faster, it was going
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slower. what this means is, same amount of time, shorter distance, equals lower speed. >> so you're questioning anywhere reasoning behind the new search area. but you also think they must have a lot more going into this. >> no. on the contrary, this starts to seem like they're just making wild guesses. >> all these satellite images in the last few days, they're saying that these -- which they found by the way in this green search area over here, those still could be related to the crash even though they're investigating over here now in the red search area. >> listen, i think this latest development really calls into question the credibility -- they've been putting their credibility on the line. the prime minister of australia
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and malaysia have been coming forward and saying, we believe that we have a credible lead. turns out those were just guesses. >> a mathematical extrapolation i think. >> we put in an assumption and get another assumption. at this point, it seems like the assumptions were not based on very much. >> or they were wrong. they search and got to the wrong place for the wrong reasons. how much hope do you hold out for this new search area? >> i hope they either do have some information or they just get lucky. every day that goes by, whatever material in the water is going to get spread out and more diverse and less information we can extract from it. we are hoping to find the debris on the ocean floor, that's where the black box is going to be. >> they do say one good thing,
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the plane could be bhov it for a long -- above it for a longer period of time. the weather situation not quite as dire. that only helps you if they find anything here. >> it's also a much bigger search area. we heard reports early on that a third country, unnamed, which had to have been indonesia had radar track information that they weren't sharing with the public. the fact that they were looking at that area and then ruled it out means that whatever they were basing that assumption on was inaccurate or not relevant. we're starting from square one here with a whole new search and pr premises. >> always great to have you here. let's take another break. coming up next, the search area might have changed, but one thing has not changed.
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a loved one's hope. she is still expecting to be reunited with her partner on flight 370. plus they're expecting the death toll in the mudslide to continue to rise today. the very latest from washington. live in the same communities that we serve. people here know that our operations have an impact locally. we're using more natural gas vehicles than ever before. the trucks are reliable, that's good for business. but they also reduce emissions, and that's good for everyone. it makes me feel very good about the future of our company. ♪ i've quit for 75 days. 15 days, but not in a row. for the first time, you can use nicorette even if you slip up, so you can reach your goal. now, quit on your own terms with nicorette or nicoderm cq.
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almost half past the hour on this friday. president obama is set to meet with saudi arabia this morning.
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they've seen several red lines drawn by the president only to watch them turn pink and then white. new developments in ukraine. the russian troop buildup near the border now nearing 100,000. they are dismissing the annexation of crimea as illegal. they are sending up to $18 billion over two years. this bailout comes as the opposition leader formally joins the presidential race. people living in rural missouri picking up the pieces this morning after a violent storm damaged, even destroyed several homes. crews are now working to restore power to businesses and residents in the area. no one was seriously injured. a fourth person identified
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as deandre tatum has tied. the 21-year-old driver is already charged with capit murd. they expect to seek additional charges against him. well, the international space station finely has three new members on board. gliding to a smooth linkup last night more than 250 miles above brazi brazil. >> maybe they can look to the cosmos right, and maybe they can teach us here on earth. >> that's the trick. all right. we are waiting a grim announcement this morning from washington state.
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expected to report a substantial rise in the death toll in the devastating landslide. right now, 25 people are believed dead, 90 missing or unaccounted for. stories of heart break and heroism are pouring in. >> reporter: a hee ik moment. >> i was just the right guy that at the right time. >> reporter: it was saturday minutes after the collapse when cody rushed into the disaster zone. >> i could see that baby's face. he was all bruised up. >> reporter: the baby's mother also trapped in the mud and severely injured. >> she said his name was duke. i asked if i could take him out of there and she said yeah. >> reporter: he scooped up the 6-month-old. >> there was this ripped up roof
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on the mud there. we laid the baby on that. i ripped off my jacket i had on and wrapped him up in that. the baby and his mother are survivors. 150 rescue workers, countless volunteers and heavy machinery are up against mother nature. tons of toppled trees and scraps of scattered homes. dozens are still missing and the death toll expected to rise. >> we were cutting pieces off of cars and removing steering wheels. she was sitting right in her driver's seat. we -- we got her out enough and then i wrapped my arms around her. >> reporter: closure for stephen neal's family as well. he was identified among the deceased. >> of course, we melted.
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i dropped the phone and i screamed a little bit. >> reporter: now the daunting task of moving forward. >> we just can't think of life without them. >> reporter: darrington, washington. >> thank you very much for that. so horrible. it's such a tragedy already and then you think that it is not even over. >> we're expecting more fuse out of there and i do not expect it will be good news. >> no every time they've come out with news, it has not been good. another break. coming up next on "new day," the hunt for flight 370 continues. at least one loved one isn't giving up hope that the passengers on that flight are still alive. we're going to be talking to her coming up next. [ intercom ] drivers, to your marks.
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now, more on the search for the missing malaysia airliner and the passengers on board. 239 people on board that flight. about three weeks out now after it has vanished. a new credible lead shifts the
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search. some of the family members are still holding onto hope. sarah bajc is joining us live now from beijing. thank you so much for taking the time. >> you're welcome. thank you for having me on the show. >> of course. it seems every new day there is new information and a new twist in the investigation and the search for your partner and all on the flight. how are you today with every new twist that comes your way? >> i'm actually better today because i stopped watching the news. other than the occasional check in to make sure there's nothing critical. but, you know, the reality is every lead has been a false lead so far. and up and down was killing me. so i just had to stop watching. >> i think many people would
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understand that. earlier this week, it seemed from your facebook postings and messages that you had come to the point where you were resigned you were not going to see philip again. now it seems you still are hopeful. what has changed for you during this week? >> well, the message that i had put out was actually monday evening. it had been a traumatic runup to the press conference. the conference itself was very, you know, fear provoking. and then the text message that came right before the press conference came sounded so definitive that there was proof. i don't even know that i heard all of the press conference because my heard was thudding so loud in my ears. the immediate response was, oh, my god, there's no hope left and i'm going to have to resign myself to this. the only feeling i can equate it
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to is like falling off the top of a building. after a couple of hours, i had a chance to talk with my son. he's very clear-headed. he said, you know, they haven't told us anything at all, they just packaged it differently. once i realized that, then the fear and the resignation actually has turned into a bit of anger that they could be so irresponsible as to have that message for families. >> who are you angry at? are you angry because they didn't give you information or the information that they gave you you don't think is founded in any real evidence? >> yeah. it's not the fault of the information. the evidence or the data they receive is the evidence. it was the fact that they made this pronouncement, right, that all hope is lost, they're sure
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beyond a reasonable doubt that the airplane is in the water and nobody has survived. they don't know that. they just don't. even though i realized from a logical perspective that could be the likely outcome, there are plenty of other options that exist. it's almost an intentional effort to avoid other choices. >> and the new information that has come out today, overnight for us here in the united states, that they've now completely shifted the search area to a different part of the indian ocean, does that change anything for you? >> no, it doesn't. because we've seen them change their plan of attack an infinite number of times.
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that doesn't mean this time won't be more substantiated. you know, i can't keep guessing what's going to work or not work. i just have to stay focused on being positive and trying to push a positive message forward and wait until there's actual concrete proof. >> you say you take some comfort in the australian side of this. do you trust that those in charge will ever be able to provide you with the clearances that you want and you well deserve? no, i don't, because we haven't seen any evidence of transparency or full competence so far. and given the symptoms at least that we can see of what appears to be a bit of a coverup activity, whether that's to avoid embarrassment or to relieve a liability, i don't know. but in the end, i don't trust
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that there's not some intentional effort to not find the real answer. so we almost have people working against us at this point. >> when i was in kuala lumpur and also in perth, some families, they wanted to speak, they wanted to speak out and speak with us, other families, they just could not. why is it important for you to speak out? you've been such a strong voice for the families of the missing. how does it help you? >> well, it's a personal release of energy. that's one thing. and it's my way to honor philip's spirit. he's a very proactive guy. he's is doer. he likes to actively make a difference in life. i want to find him or at least i want to find what happened to him. i don't see a lot of evidence that our government or other governments are taking a positive hand in that.
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if there's something that i, as an individual, can do to help keep the pressure up by engaging with media and driving the social media image, i'll do that because it's the only thing i know to do. >> you talked about your frustration and anger toward malaysian officials and others as well, i understand you are still moving forward with your plans that you had with philip to move to malaysia. why is that? >> well, partly because it's the plan we made together. and i can't just stop my life. it was a very conscious decision for us to choose to go there. i need to honor that and move forward. and i think he wants me to do that. and hopefully he'll be able to rejoin me in that effort and we have a very bright future in front of us.
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if he can't do that in body, hopefully he can at least do that in spirit. mu malaysia's a lovely country. the country as a whole in many ways is as much of a victim as the passengers on that flight. i feel very sorry for the country. >> you're such a strong and eloquent voice for the families of all of those missing on flight 370. thank you very much. hope to talk to you again soon. >> thank you. >> of course. all right. much more on that. all right. next up on "new day," we have breaking news. there's word that objects have now been spotted in this new search zone. we'll have the lathest for you -- latest for you after the break. ♪ ...work with equity experts... ♪ ...who work with regional experts... ♪
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to our breaking news in the search for flight 370. objects spotted in the new search area. we should point out confirmation on these sightings is expected tomorrow. they want to send ships out if they can locate them. that information is based on tweets sent my search crews. australia has moved the search area some 700 miles northeast of where they've been searching this week. as we've learned over the pastfy
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days, satellite images can be tricky. let's bring in our analyst and former vice presence of digital globe who took the initial satellite images. really good to have you. i want to start with your reaction to this news that new items have been spotted. confident, hopeful? >> i am. frankly, i'm a little frustrated too. we're looking at a new area again. you mention the distance that we're talking about. the good news is that satellites will be in or bit. they should be collected in about 15 to 16 hours. the satellites can be fed new coordinates. this is the area they've been concentrating on for the past week. they now have a new area to look at. >> some people are saying, wait, whose math was bad.
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>> i've been speaking a lot with colleagues and with david. this is tib call. we have to be careful that we don't now throw out everything we've been looking at. this is collection at its finest. this is intelligence analysis and bringing in all the sources we can to help get the best possible area. >> to that end, i want to ask is this still potentially in playing -- because we've seen all the debris. in fact, let's go there. all of this debris is it just sea junk because we know that area collects sea junk because the current's really aggressive in that area, or could that still be debris even though the new search area could be a point of impact? >> bottom line, we don't know. >> it's possible. >> it is possible. we still need more positive identification. we spoke a lot about it in the past couple days, the problem with satellite imagery in a case
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like this looking at the ocean -- chad myers yesterday was talking about a bubble bath. i love that phrase. when you're looking at it from 450 miles up in space, white objects like foam can often look like an object. it's hard to conclusively say this could be debris from an aircraft. >> the general user at home that uses technology and google, this is where we're getting a little frustrated. i can see a pool toy floating in that pool, the color of a vehicle. this is google map technology, yet we look at the technology for satellite, there's a massive discrepancy there. >> this is taken from an airplane. this is taken from a satellite. satellites are not a allowed to
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get down to this kind of quality. we call it resolution. this is taken from an airplane flying at a much lower altitude. satellites will play an important part because they can cover a large area. the airplanes need to get that closer visual inspection. >> we've talked about it in the breaking news just now. it was one of australia's airplanes. that shows their capability to see with much better clarity. >> from what i understand, it's more importantly the signals they're detecting on the plane. so there's a visual search, but it's the sensor package on the plane that can look for melts objects. >> so there are limits to satellite technology? >> there are. right now it's a legal limit. it's about 19 inches in resolution. this by comparison is probably
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25 centimeters. in terms of that, i think this is a point i've been talking to you about before, we are not necessarily going to see the public that investigators may be looking at satellite wise, right? >> it's possible. the beauty is it's publicly releasable. you can find these areas on their websites to publicly look at. it's hard. like we've been speaking about, it's difficult, but it's not being held back. there are sources of data that governments will hold because of national security reasons. that's where this public data becomes so important and valuable. >> going back to it, we see this. this does not concern you -- again, they're doing reanalysis. a recrunching, further refining. this doesn't scream to you a mistake. it doesn't scream incompetence, it just says to you they're
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refining and tuning it. >> you said it very well. there's more information that's going to come in continually and you have to be willing to adjust accordi accordingly. let's talk to you again in an hour or so. >> will do. >> a lot of news breaking this morning. let's get to our top story for you. >> the search for flight mh-370 has been shifted to an area north. the plane was traveling faster than previously estimated. >> this has time that has been wasted. there's no question. >> we will continue and we will not look back. an infant pulled from the wreckage of the deadly landsl e landslide. not all stories have the same happy outcome. >> she was sitting right in her driver's seat. i wrapped my arms around her and got her out.
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good morning. and welcome to "new day." it is friday, march 28th, 7:00 in the east. i'm kate bolduan. good to be back with all of you. joined by john berman who's in with chris cuomo. within the last half hour, a search plane spotted something in the new search zone almost 700 miles northeast of where the search has centered so far. ships are heading to that area and will have to confirm what it is. and that, of course, may not happen until tomorrow. breaking also this morning, australian officials announced the search area moved, as we mentioned, almost 700 miles northeast. authorities now believe the plane was traveling faster and burning more fuel. in the last half hour, a search plane did spot something in the new search zone. we'll have to confirm exactly what happened. we'll be following that throughout the morning.
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>> this p3 orion did spot the debris. meanwhile, malaysian officials, they were briefing all morning, very much on the defensive. they say the new search area is based on the best information they have including from the faa and ntsb, also from boeing. they're standing by the fact they were searching in the old search area. they also standby the hunt for debris captured by satellite over the last few days. will the search finally lead crews in the right direction? for the latest, let's go to the ground. andrew stevens live in perth, australia. >> reporter: good morning, john. that's the question. at this stage, no one will be prepared to answer that given there's been so many false leads and false hopes in this 21-day
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search. the plane that saw those objects is due to arrive here back at the air base behind me just shortly. so we'll keep you up to date on that. certainly, the australians, when they announced the search area was changing, they were clear to point out it wasn't new data. it was actually new analysis of the data they already had. they were also saying this is a normal part of an investigation, that we go on the best information we have available. the information, the data, it continues to be crunched by a whole network of experts from several countries now. the latest information is that that's the search area. it's still the size of poland. it is a vast area. the good news is, it's quite a lot closer to the mainland of australia. the search planes can get there quicker and can stay on target
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longer. this very much is the area of focus. it's interesting how the malaysians were not definitely linking, but saying there could be a possible link between the debris we've seen of those five separate satellite images of various objects in the water. there's a very specific terminology here, object skpts debris. the australians are saying, we won't say debris, we're saying objects. the malaysians are saying there is a link between the objects seen in the southern areas and what may be in this place about 700 miles further north. >> all right. andrew stevens in perth, of course. ships will be arriving on the scene where they did take images of possible objects in the new search area. more breaking news, the ceo from malaysia airlines has said new pilots will have to go through psychological tests. let's get to jim clancy in kuala
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lumpur with that. that's an interesting development. there's been a lot of talk about the pilot and co-pilot on this plane. some have been careful not to cast too much suspicion on them, but now they're changing policies going forward. >> reporter: i didn't understand he was changing policy so much, but saying they go under some level of psychological testing as is done by the aviation medical doctors. he was saying it was done on a basis of every year or perhaps every year. there's been a lot of speculation about the pilots and what role they might have played in all of this because they have control of the plane. they were the last ones known to be in control of flight 370. natural that the focus would be on them and their psychological status, of course, is a part of
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that. now, we have the chairman -- rather the ceo of malaysia air spelling it out perfectly, they do get tested, at least annually. >> thank you so much. let's bring in two experts to go overall the information we've gotten in the last few minutes. a cnn safety analyst, he's a former faa inspector. and also david funk, a former international captain at northeast airlines. let's start david funk with this information coming from the malaysia airlines ceo about psychological tests. unclear if there's a new level or confirming they do go through testing. what's your take on this. >> probably the addition of testing. i do know that the rest of the world is very much lagged behind. when i say the rest of the world, i mean outside the u.s.,
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australia, britain, canada. in the u.s., we've been doing it as far back as the mid-1980s. then you have continuing monitoring. if the pilot's doing his job on a normal basis, you see some incident happen, somebody will pull him aside and say is everything okay. the countries i mentioned are very good about making sure the pilot has that time to deal with personal issues. >> let's talk about the other news. we have now theny search area, some 680 miles northeast of where we have been focused. since that refinement happened, the new zealand air force team, i'm wondering if it's the same team i went up with over the weekend, they've spotted objects. here is the problem i take from this. the ships that need to get eyes on it, they're still in the old search area and it's going to
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take them until tomorrow to get there. >> you can spot things and think you have things. before we were talking about satellite images and four or five days come k back to it. now we're talking about just a day afterwards. we have to not lose hope just because this thing has changed a little bit. >> you two are on the same page on this, but others are having a differing opinion on what this new search area means. some are saying it's de interpretersing because -- depressing because they think the analysis to this point has been wrong. you think it's common. please explain. >> it's really common. if you've been involved in any search, it's full of excitement, hope, and disappointment. maybe that's why we're on the same page with this having had this experience. the team gets together, they have hope and then they have disappointment. each time you're cycling this,
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you're getting a little bit better. so i'm still hopeful about this. >> david funk, one thing that came out of this new information that they've moved to this new search area, an australian official was asked what does this mean about the old search area. he essentially said, we're done with it, it's over, that we have moved on from that. is it smart? >> it is if they find something in the new area. if they don't locate anything there, you wind up with a disappointment. you look at the maximum distance the airplane can fly, you go there first and work your way closer back towards land. i'm optimistic with the higher fuel burn rate, they won't get as far. we know when the airplane essentially quit communicating. working back closer and closer. we've got a lot more time on
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station. the airplanes go out, they've got two hours on station because they're an hour closer each way. i'm optimistic we'll find something in this area if it's there. hopefully we'll get hands on pieces of airplane in the water that confirms at least now we know the general vicinity. it's time to bring the submersible in to do the tough wo work underwater. >> we have the northern corridor for so long. it seems clear that nothing was going on up there but there still were assets up there. do you think it's smart to move the focus only on this new area? >> i wouldn't say smart or dumb. i would say it's more about managing resources. they have a high confidence level in the fact that they've got this new search area -- so much so that they've taken all
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the work we've done before and said, it's not working, let's go someplace else. the fact they said that, that tells me conclusively that they have something that tells them they're in the right place now. >> if they continue to analyze the information they have and refined it further that it would be even more north, more east in a different area? you're saying the smart thing they did is go as far out as you're going to go and continue to work their way back. >> the further east they get, now they start getting into the radar coverage areas that the australians have. if the radar operators didn't see something, it puts it more likely out in the area that it's at. they're right at the edge of that radar system that's been talked about so much in the news this last week. they may have a skin paint or
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may have some odd blip out there that's close to what they thought the track of the airplane was, particularly if they have a speed on that blip as it traveled towards the south-southwest. that could be a huge indicator for us. that could be why we are dealing with a different speed in its entirety. >> we talked about blips on the radar. if you look at a radar screen that doesn't have secondary radar, you don't know what's out there. as you analyze more and more and more, if you think of a thousand disht dots in this -- different dots in this dot, you have to plot every dot to every other dot to see if there's a correlation between movement. it's no coincidence that about the time they brought the faa specialists in that this is being refined because that's what they do. they're better than anybody in the world. >> why weren't they brought in
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sooner then? >> you have to wonder about that. it goes back to the gelling of the team. there's cultural differences and communication differences. i can only imagine when you have so many countries involved, there's so many barriers. i'm feeling confident they're starting to gel now. >> david funk, do we need to temper our optimism still with this new search area? even in the new search area where they say the weather conditions are generally better in this area, we're also still looking at sea depths of something over a mile deep to over 2 1/2 miles deep. we're still looking at seriously deep water to look for debris. >> absolutely. if you find debris on the surface, that gives us a starting point. the hard work really gets going
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when you have to go under the ocean and start looking for the components of the airplane. the big pieces are so heavy that when they hit the bottom, they're not moving. once we locate an engine or a landing gear, we know we're in the vicinity that we'll find the comes within a few miles on the ocean. it will be a big area, but once it hits the bottom, the big pieces will be there. those are the critical things we need to get our hands on to really analyze what happened. finding that elusive flight data recorder and cockpit voice recorder, if we're close, we might hear the ping. we can at least get it isolated. >> first we need to get eyes in that area. we need to get those ships there. that's going to happen in the next 24 hours. that's a critical move in thisny search area. all right. we're going to check some of the
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day's other big headlines for you now. officials in washington state say they expect to deliver painful news later today in the aftermath of the mudslide in seattle. officially 17 people died, however eight more bodies have been located. the local fire chief warns that the death toll is about to rise dramatically. 90 people are still listed as missing. the oscar pistorius murder trial is on hold. he was expected to testify in his own defense this morning. however the judge ordered a postponement landlord april 7th because of one of the assessors is in the hospital. >> president obama meets with the sawed udis. the saudis have pibly complained about how the u.s. handled iran.
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he says president obama didn't stand behind the red lines he droou. 6 million and counting. that's how many americans have now signed up for obamacare. and the officials say the numbers are surging. this week on wednesday, they had 1.5 million visitors. the cdc has noted and found a spike in autism cases. one out of every 68 children in the u.s. has been diagnosed. that is a 30% jump from just a couple years ago. the study does not say why, but it does show that most are male and that a growing number have above average or average intelligence. children are still being diagnosed late, after age 4 on average even though it can be spotted at age 2. >> i have had this discussion with every set of young parents that i know. it is something that hangs over
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everyone when they're having kids. i have two boys. we just want more information. >> why is this happening and why is it happening to much to our little boys. >> or is it just being diagnosed more. next up on "new day," breaking news, a new search area and now word that objects have been spotted by a new zealand search plane. new objects in a new search zone. richard quest will be here to explain. also, chris christie says he's not going to change after the political payback scandal that has tarnished his second term. benefiber is clear, taste-free and dissolves completely. and unlike other fibers, you'll only know you're taking fiber by the way
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[ male announcer ] it shouldn't be this hard. with creditcards.com, it's easy to search hundreds of cards and apply online. creditcards.com. welcome back to "new day." we have a lot of breaking news this morning. we learned that a new zealand plane did spot objects in the new search zone. no word yet if this could be debris from flight 370. they need to get the ships in the region. that will happen tomorrow. now the relocation of this search area is based on leads provided to investigators largely by the faa and the ntsb. here to talk about this is richard quest, aviation sor correspondent. the old search area here, the green area right there, the new
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search area. they got to this new search area by something that happened all the way up there. >> we need to begin by going way back up to the northern part. if you look at what the statement said and you follow -- it says the new information is based on analysis of radar data between the south china sea and the straits of ma la ka. >> that is all the way up here. >> that is the area where they know the speed and position of the plane. what they are now saying is the plane -- the aircraft was traveling faster than previously estimated. what does this mean? what it means is that the plane burned more fuel here so when it started to come south, it
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couldn't or didn't travel as far. that's the analysis that makes sense this morning. they're now estimating it probably flew south at around 700 knots. the reason it's significant is because of what happened up by kuala lumpur, straits and therefore it didn't travel as far down. >> this is from the newish team which begs the question, richard. you know, we're three weeks into it now. >> i think that's just being clever after the event. they are literally at the ex-extremities of what they know and understand. remember, this is all being done with primary radar data, the most basic form of blips on a screen. then extrapolated with pings
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from this handshaking business that the plane does. then knowing that the plane flew for six-odd hours. we've got one, one, one, now how much does that add up to. >> being done with tools not meant to do what they're now being used to do. >> that is the significance of the fact of the difficulty of what they are now engaged in. >> let's talk about the new search area. it's much closer to perth than the old search area. it means that the planes will have a much easier time really flying overhead. >> two important things about it. they can get to the new search area much more quickly which means they can have longer overhead in the new search area and the weather is better. it's not down here. it's not as bad. still not terribly pleasant this time of the year, but it does mean that they will have more time to search. we've already seen of course that even last night the planes
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were already on their way and overhead. >> if they are right about this new area here in red, they will likely find out about it much more quickly than they would have in the last area because they can get eyeballs on it much more easily. >> the eyeballs can stay on it much longer. and they now say they believe this is the impact area. the crash point as they could it last night. >> that is a key point because as the malaysian officials were asked this morning, do all the satellite objects -- is that just nothing. they say no. that could have been drift from the site. explain that. >> the slight contradiction overnight. the australians said all the planes are being moved from the old up to the new. today in the statement from
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malaysia they're saying it could be drift. so i think we need to give them the benefit of the doubt on that part that they are -- they're basically -- they're basically concentrating everything on the new zone. >> one area here that's interesting, you say they think the point of impact could be here. >> crash point. >> if the crash point is here, the currents here are not as strong as you said. so the debris may not have drifted as far from this area so it might be easier for them to trace back to where the black box is. >> the implication from what we heard last night, 1:00 eastern time is when they were talking about it, the implication being was the amount of drift would not be that great. they say that i have accounted for it, but they kept talking about this new area as being the point of impact, the crash point. and therefore, you take your choice -- the french, the chinese, the japanese and the thais also.
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but really, i wouldn't think they're going to waste too much time. >> they say they're not. they're done over there. >> they're looking for new stuff in the new area. and the reason they think it's there is because of what happened up there. >> if they do find objects in this new area, they will then be able to get -- all this technology they have sitting in perth, all these underwater search devices, they'll be able to deploy that stuff under water. >> the moment they find objects here and they can verify -- and remember the ship is not due to be on base until tonight to pick something up. and the orion has taken photograph of objects in the water. so ships will be on base tonight or during the day. they will pick up whatever they can still find it it wond be long. >> i do want to point out,
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everyone was frustrated. >> this is different. >> this is much different. >> this is a plane saying we've spotted something. but we've been there before. i'm stretching my memory. >> they spotted, but they didn't think it turned out to be anything. we assume they'll be able to get the ship right up next to this debris. we assume they dropped buoys perhaps so they can go back. >> yes. yes. >> so by tomorrow at this time, we could know a lot, lot more. >> absolutely. but it all hinges on kprierd anywhere signs and art and a few calculations, which way the wind is blowing it it all hinges on what happened when they burned the fuel up there. >> thank you so much. coming up next on "new day," those new objects spotted in the water of the newly defined search area raise two important
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all right. welcome back to "new day." let's take a look at your headlines at this hour. a plane in the new search area for flight 370 has spotted images in the water.
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we're waiting on word to see exactly what it was. the search overnight moved hundreds of miles northeast because the plane was traveling faster and burning more fuel. this analysis comes from agencies around the world. >> new developments in ukraine. president obama warning russia that it must move back troops from the ukraine border calling it a possible intimidation tactic or that russia may have additional plans. close to 100,000 russian troops are interest. the u.n. general assembly thursday overwhelmingly approved a resolution rebuking russia and dismissing the annexation of crimea as illegal. >> officials in washington state say they expect to deliver grim news today in the mudslide in seattle. officially 17 people died, but eight more bodies have been
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located. they warn that the death toll is about to rise dramatically. one of the nation's busiest sea ports is reopen this morning after a massive oil spill. officials have now released all restrictions on marine traffic in the houston ship channel. nearly 170,000 gallons of tar-like oil spilled into the water way. white house documents are on the way today. the national archives will release about 2,500 pages today. it will include documents regarding clinton's farewell address. some 8,000 pages since february. >> is it just be keep oncoming. >> very good john.
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>> is there a john king reference being made there. >> i'm backing you up. >> i need the back gyp. berman and her have been beating me up all week. a busy day driving our "inside politics." let's get right to it. the obamacare numbers. they get to 6 million, which is not the 7 million they wanted. they've got a couple more days. if you consider where they started, can the administration spin this as a policy success? they have more people in the program than we thought maybe a month or two ago? >> yes, they've exceeded our lower expectations. this is better than a lot of people were expecting. i think the question based on the democrats i talked to is how hard are they going to sell this, right? because they have been burned so many times when they wanted to go out and say positive things.
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public opinion is so negative and fixed at this point. when we say this week another deadline being pushed back, there was hardly even a sigh. the politics of this, we'll see if they'll change before november, but at this point it feels very fixed. >> we know how many signed up, but we don't know how many paid. to monthlily's point, can the democrats have a united message on this when you have nancy pelosi saying it's a winning issue, but then the vulnerable democrats saying we want to still fix it. >> you're not seeing anything like a unified message coming out of the democrats so far. there was a very split opinion about what has happened. some people saying yes, we were able to countermatch the messaging. they're still finding their way
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and i don't think you're going to see a whole lot of embracing of it for a while. >> let's move onto governor chris christie. an attorney hired by christie released a report yesterday that said the governor knew nothing about bridgegate, about tclosin of those access leans. as he tries to put it behind him, he did his first post-bridgegate interview. listen to this question about will you change your style. >> no. i am what i am. i hear from most people that that's the thing they love the most. >> what about iowa? >> i think they love me in iowa too, diane. i've been there a lot. i think they love me there too. >> not so humble? >> that was not really a scaled back, really changed by this whole experience.
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that report that came out yesterday, even though it was condemned by the new york times editorial board as a whitewash, it was not even -- the personal version that his lawyers put together, it still paints a pretty messy picture of what was going on in his office. >> the messy picture thing is important because he's a governor. even if he had no personal role, if it was happening in his office, why didn't he know about it. the attorney in the report trashes one of the key witnesses. his former deputy chief of staff, one of three people who would not be interviewed because they have lawyers telling them don't cooperate with any of the investigations right now. one of the things about her, events in her life may have had bearing on her subjective motivations and state of mind. if you have someone very close to your office, what is the
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public in trashing her and suggesting she was on stable or had some personal relationship that caused erratic behavior? >> if you are the one taking heat, you want a scapegoat, you want a fall guy. whether that's the god's honest truth or she's being set up as the villain, it still creates the impression that there is someone being scapegoated. so the question is is she going to stay lawyered up, is she going to stay quiet, or is she going to speak up for here's and try to counter this perception. >> and he has a press conference today. i assume he's going to be asked about the tone here. why do you attack her before you get to the end of the investigation? >> it could be that this is true, but they didn't interview this woman, they didn't
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interview the very small handful of people who they say are responsible. she is depicted as an angry person lashing back. that's very tough language. >> let's move onto an interesting comment from joe biden. he was addressing the hispanic chamber of commerce. he talked about how the president had put him in charge of the hem miss fear. is this the right way to say it? >> you know, 11 million people living in the shadows, i believe they're already american citizens. rooz investment said it better, he said it's not about birthplace or creed or a line of desce descent. it's about principles and character. by that standard, 11 million
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undocument aliens are already mesh americans in my view. >> they're already here, their kids go to school. but in a midterm election year where you know those words, american citizens, fire up the conservative base, is that the right way to put it? >> probably not. and i don't think it was done by design. joe biden being joe biden. he's very real and very authentic, but sometimes that tends to veer in the wrong direction. >> at this point, i think we see everything joe biden says through this lens. even if he said something literally untrue there, they are not american citizens, he got his message out that is not going to get on cnn if he didn't make it. so maybe it fires up the
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conservative base. maybe a lot of hispanic voters get to hear the message and say, yeah, i feel like he's on my side. >> we get the third wave of these clinton presidential documents today. looking at the history of bill clinton. >> based on what we're going to see today, i don't think there's going to be anything as revealing as that first round where you have memos written by her press staff. but i think this is always interesting. we'll see. >> interesting for history januarys and guys like me who have great hair. >> not looking for anything in particular, but i think we are going to continue to go through these documents with a fine-toothed comb. >> thanks for coming in. back to you guys in new york. you have kate back. she's a big march madness fan. mitch mcconnell's opponent buying some time.
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kentucky playing louisville. his opponents relationing this little ad. >> march madness in kentucky. commitment, courage, you got to love it. even if your team is already out of the tournament. >> mark trying to take advantage of a mistake there. we'll see how that one plays out. all politics remains local. >> that's right. i'll be watching the michigan game because i have michigan as taking it all. >> are you still in first place? >> i was in first place until i went to sleep. now chad myers has moved ahead and you are getting closer. >> i'm a sleeper. i come up late. >> but you finish strong. >> i have a whole house load of people coming to by house tonight. it's on. >> all right. >> who do you have winning? >> i have michigan state. >> oh, okay. >> that's good. all right.
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back to the new developing news. new objects spotted in the new search zone. the question is, will the weather hold up and let ships reach this potential debris. so far, the bad conditions have hampered the search efforts and made it really really tough. here to walk us through all that is jennifer gray. she's in for indra petersons this week. one of the things in the old search zone with fierce currents. >> the new one is very
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different, actually. in the old one, you're in the strongest current in the world. now with this new search zone, you don't really have that driving force. you're drifting around. you have the random eddies that go every which way. and you also have to account for the tomorrostorms. you're going to have the storms and really strong winds, really high seas. so it's a little less scientific there. >> down there in the south, in the old search zone, that area in green, the winds are in the roaring 40s. up here, the winds aren't so bad. >> the farther north you go, the better it gets. you're not down there where it's consistently very, very bad. this is still a really wild ocean. you're going to have those days where the winds are going to be gusting 20, 30 miles per hour.
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if you look here, we have a forecast for the next 24 hours. you can see the winds, 10 to 20 miles per hour. not quite as bad. we do have a storm system that we're going to watch pull through by the end of the weeke weekend, but over the next couple of days, i think they're going to have a window where it's going to be a little bit better out there for them. >> the challenge not nearly as high. doesn't mean the debris is there or not there. the last issue has been the clouds. the planes couldn't see anything. >> you're still going to have clouds where you are now, of course. so it's going to be a challenge. you're just going to have to find that window where you can find the skies that are clear. it's such a gamble. it's not only challenging for the aircraft. the satellites. these things aren't fixed. they're or bitting, the earth is
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spinni spinning. so you basically have one shot. the time of day where it paints a picture is 10:30 p.m. our time, 10:30 a.m. over there. we took our satellite imagery. when i push this button, bam. that's when it will be painting a picture in this part of the world tomorrow morning doesn't look good. >> no. there's clouds. covered with clouds. which means if you're expecting clear satellite pictures from this search area tomorrow, it doesn't seem likely. >> it is so frustrating. and then you have to wait another 24 hours. >> they will have the ships out there tomorrow. the currents not as strong. they may have an easier time. great to have you here. all right. next up on "new day," there'sny information out this morning about just how fast the missing
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welcome back. breaking news on the flight 370 mystery. objects have now been spotted by aircraft in the new search zone. overnight this new search zone came because radar data and aircraft assumptions led to the conclusion that the aircraft was traveling faster than previously estimated before dropping off radar. this leading investigators to a new search location 700 miles
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northeast of the previous focus from this week. so why has the search area shifted so dramatically? here to break it down cnn aviation analyst and contributor to slate, jeff wise. good to have you here. let's jump into it. i want to read what they announced about the shift in the plane search focus. based on radar analysis indicating the aircraft was traveling faster than previously estimated resulting in an increased fuel usage and reducing the possible distance the aircraft traveled south into the indian ocean. what does that mean? >> confusing language. very confusing language. i want to sort of slow down and explain what that really means. >> okay. >> they're saying it has an increased fuel burn at the beginning. it had less fuel when it disappeared from radar. there's two time points i want to talk about. 2:22 a.m., this is when the plane disappears from radar, western malaysia. >> yeah. >> 8:11 a.m., six hours later,
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it winds up on an arc because of this ping data. >> southern corridor we've been focused on. >> sure. go ahead. >> very inaccurate. we know it wound up somewhere along the line. >> i'll change colors for you. >> it started out at a point and it wound up somewhere on this arc. now where on the arc did it wind up? if you plug into the equation an initial assumption about how fast it was going, you get a different point on this line. >> okay. >> so basically what we had assumed was it was going 450 knots and it wound up around here. this is the 450 knot point. >> okay. >> then you drift and you wind up somewhere over here. that's why they were looking over here. >> that's what led to this search area? >> right. what they're saying today is -- >> let's give you a new color. >> because we know its initial fuel load and greater fuel burn, we think it was burning less fuel. it was probably going slower. if you plug in the numbers, you wind up getting a shorter route that takes you from that point to another point around, again,
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this is where my bad chart drawing skills come in. >> that's okay. >> this is the 400 knot point. it winds up here instead of here. the gist of it is, the slower that plane was going, the further northeast it was going to wind up. >> but when we hear this notion of it being slower, one would think it would be dramatically by half, a third, that's only the difference of 50. is that enough to dramatically -- 700 miles northeast -- >> this is a big arc. it could be -- if it could be anywhere on that southern arc, you're talking about thousands of miles. huge, very daunting. it's possible this plane could have been going as slow as 250 knots which would have put it way up to indonesia, next to sumatra. we're assuming hopefully it was only a slight, you know, speed difference which is giving us something barely -- this is still a huge area. it's all based on assumption. a lot of assumptions embedded in this analysis. >> they're saying that this is new -- this is new analysis of the data. >> new assumption basically
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which is giving us a new output. >> you don't have a lot of faith in this? >> well, it turns out that this search area that the prime minister of australia said before parliament, this is our best credible lead, that turned out not to be a very useful lead at all. it turned out to be incorrect. we established the debris isn't there. that's useful to an extent, but we don't really know on what basis they decided to choose this. >> so, okay, let's go with the idea that the search area here is obviously where they're still focusing. >> right. >> in fact, we know that the new zee land air force spotted something from a plane. they're going to analyze the imagery taken from there. >> sure. >> by tomorrow we should get the results from that, what was netted. >> okay. >> your thought is don't discount this or are you saying don't discount everything? >> i'm saying we can pretty well discount this. we searched this very well. on the contrary, i would say the reverse. we've learned that if you see a whole bunch of stuff in the ocean, doesn't mean it's an
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airplane. >> yeah. >> we have to treat all of these reports with floating debris with caution. >> jeff wise as always, thanks so much. >> my pleasure. kate? coming up next on "new day," new objects spotted in the search zone. could this be debris from flight 370? we'll be headed back to perth with the very latest on the search effort. days, but not in. for the first time, you can use nicorette even if you slip up, so you can reach your goal. now, quit on your own terms with nicorette or nicoderm cq. a man who doesn't stand still. but jim has afib, atrial fibrillation, an irregular heartbeat not caused by a heart valve problem. that puts jim at a greater risk of stroke. for years, jim's medicine tied him to a monthly trip to the clinic to get his blood tested. but now, with once-a-day xarelto jim's on the move. jim's doctor recommended xarelto. like warfarin,
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good morning and welcome to "new day" once again. it is friday, march 28th, 8:00 in the ooet. i'm kate bolduan joined by john berman. chris cuomo is off. objects have been spotted in the new search area for malaysian flight 370. a new zealand search plane says it saw something in the water. it's headed back to australia with pictures they obviously took in the search area. a ship is on the way to confirm what the objects are. that may not happen until tomorrow. >> kate mentioned a new search area. the hunt has jumped almost 700 miles northeast. this coming after new analysis of radar data suggested the plane may have gone down sooner because it burned fuel faster. malaysian officials say the data was refined with help from the agencies in the u.s. and around the world including the ntsb and the faa. andrew stevens is live in perth. andrew, what's the latest?
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>> reporter: john, i can tell you that that new zealand airplane has now landed at this airbase behind me. we don't know what were on those images. the pictures were taken. we need the eyes on identification. they won't get there until late tomorrow afternoon. there have been so many twists and turns in this story. today a radical new turn. this morning a major shift in the search for wreckage. australia moving their focus just over 680 miles northeast of the most recent search area. australian authorities crediting the shift to what they describe as new and credible radar information. >> this continuing analysis indicates the plane was traveling faster than was previously estimated resulting in increased fuel usage and reducing the possible distance it traveled south into the indian ocean. >> this revelation moves the
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search hundreds of miles closer to australia's coast giving reconnaissance planes more than the previous one to two hours of search time. >> the new search area, although more focused than before, remains considerable and that the search conditions, although easier than before, remain challenging. >> the view search area covering 133,000 square miles. the waters there reaching depths of 2 1/2 miles. >> this information needs to be continually adjusted for the length of time elapsed since the aircraft went missing and the likely drift of any wreckage floating on the ocean surface. >> reporter: the full search back on today after yesterday's tumultuous weather. dedicated to the search, ten aircraft and six ships from six countries. australia also shifting their satellites to focus cameras on the new search area. no satellite sightings of debris
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just yet. >> we will put data marker buoys that will report back so we know with accuracy where the water is moving and that provides us the best way to keep the search area confined. >> reporter: now 21 days into the investigation reporters ask if the previous search zones were a waste of time. >> this is the normal business of search and rescue operations, that new information comes to life, refined analyses take you to a different place. i don't discount the original search a waste of time. >> reporter: so night has now fallen over that search zone. the ten aircraft, kate, that have been out there are either back at base or on their way back. new zealand is the only aircraft that reports sieg anything. the malaysians say the debris, the five separate images of debris that we saw from satellite images may, in fact, still be linked to this investigation. they may have drifted into that new search zone even though it
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is some 700 miles away. a lot of chat on twitter saying that looks unlikely. that's what malaysians have been saying, kate. >> they have say the because of the current they could travel hundreds of miles. we'll have to wait and watch. andrew stevens, thanks so much. let's bring in and continue this discussion david soucie a cnn safety analyst and author of "why planes crash" and mary sciavo with the department of transportation. she represents victims and families following airplane disasters. david, mary, great to see you. mary, i want to start with you. david and i talked about it in the last hour. new search zone three weeks in though. does that surprise you? >> well, it does. ordinarily though you have so much more information to start with. you have usually a knowledge of where the plane went down, you have data from the plane but malaysian didn't subscribe to
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the service. starting with a blank slate, it makes it much more difficult. i can't recall of an investigation where three weeks into it they were still trying to find where the plane actually crashed. >> mary, what do you make of the new information? do you think it tells -- this new information about how fast the plane was going earlier on in the flight, that's how they reached this new calculation, more fuel burn so it can ended up in a different area. does that get you any closer to why the plane ended up here? >> well, i think it really does. when you're doing an investigation you have to test out so many different theories in the beginning. it's not speculation, it's testing theories. one by one you narrow them down and you figure out what fits and what doesn't. this fits the data that we do have, and we don't have a lot of data. this fits the data better. it conforms more to the point. you don't have to concoct so many, well, he might have done this, the plane might have done that. this fits it better and really makes more sense. >> david, i look back at the press conference that was held overnight when they were
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announcing this new search zone. at one point it was discussed that this was the entry point, the most credible lead that they have for the entry point, the crash site. that's versus maybe the debris field drift that we've also been looking for. why is that distinction important? >> well, because in this zone, as i understand it, there's a lot fewer currents that would be taking the debris further away. i noticed during the conference last night they referred to both within the same area. i think that that's kind of encouraging, that it would be co-located. >> let's talk about the pros and cons of this new search zone. the pros, at least as far as we know, it allows for a more linger time because it's closer to the coast of perth which is a good thing because that's been a challenge. generally, better weather conditions in that area. that has been a huge problem for the search planes. i was on one of those flights and any kind of cloud cover really completely ruins visibility. you can see how the conditions change on a moment's notice, but there's still a lot of ch
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challenges here. what are they facing? >> what i'm concerned with, the new area, the surface of the floor is much more mountainous, it's rocky. there's areas it could have gotten into ravines and crevices which didn't happen before. >> couldn't this pose more problems for the pinger if it's a mountainous area. >> as far as receiving it, absolutely. >> yeah. >> if you have a mountain on this side or this side of a pinger. it takes it from this projection down to a projection like this. you have to be more center over the top as you detect it. >> as we were talking about, this information, this new analysis came from this international working group, mary. they're essentially saying this is a new calculation from information that they had that the plane was traveling faster than first thought burning more fuel. this is early on in the flight. talk to me, how is that possible that they didn't have this
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calculation before? >> well, you know, they're complicated computations, and what's important in investigations is as david well knows, too, you learn and you learn about the nature of crashes and investigation by experience one at a time. i mean, after you've done, you know, 15 or 20 you remember things and you know how it's done. malaysia was approaching this new and they had -- didn't have a lot of experience by bringing in the ntsb, by bringing in the faa, people like david there, they have so much more experience and i think they were able to glean this from the data. true, they already had it, but you really have to take a hard look at things sometimes and sometimes you have to just apply the eye of experience and say, you know, this is how it usually works. let's go back to what we know and let's replot these positionings based ond what we know and how things usually go. >> mary, do you think it's a fair criticism to say if you might not have had the experience needed and the faa and the ntsb did, why didn't you bring them in sooner?
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>> well, i do think -- it's a fair observation. i don't know what the malaysians were thinking or what resources they had on the ground, and of course maybe they didn't realize how very willing the ntsb and the assets of the united states are to help in any crash investigation because we are an aviation nation. when something goes wrong in aviation, it's very important to the united states because we all fly all the time. >> and so we also have the new news, david, of these objects being spotted by the new zealand air force team out there. this is the first day they're searching the new search zone. they've spotted some new objects, cautious, of course, they could be some objects, maybe not the debris field, that's got to be optimistic? >> it is. i've been accused of wearing rose colored glasses. there are times you have to do that. i can't imagine what these families are going through. as frustrating as we're saying, oh, we wasted this time, we're
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doing this. being with these families, you just feel for them and you get frustrated for them and you want to push, you want to push. that's the hard thing about the accident investigation, you have to temper everything you do, weigh things. like mary was saying about the facts you have you have to deal with. each level -- each fact has a level of confidence with it and you can't let emotions stray you to this way, that way. it has to be slow, it has to be methodical, it has to be a controlled process. >> it comes with highs and lows and it comes with refinement. we will find the plane. that's the first step. first we have to get ships throughout which could be another 24 hours to get eyes on this object that this new zealand team has spotted. thank you so much, guys. john. thanks, kate. we'll have much more on the breaking news just ahead. first, in a few short hours president obama will arrive in saudi arabia for a high stakes head to head meeting with king
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abdullah. this is the last stop in a week-long trip abroad. this could be the president's most delicate meeting. they've been at odds on a range of issues that do affect the stability in that region and on. cnn's michelle kosinski is in rome with more. michelle. >> reporter: hi, john. right, next stop, riad. the ukraine crisis, no longer front and center. many other big, important pressing issues in that region and ones on which the u.s. and saudi arabia do not necessarily see eye to eye. the brookings institution put it well and said this part of the trip is about alliance management. alliance management worried about up heave val. what the u.s. is doing or not doing to prevent it. they don't like that the u.s. has reached out diplomatically to iran. they don't like that the u.s.
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has not intervened militarily in syria. human rights obviously another place where these two powers don't agree, but we know that the region has changed dramatically. it continues to change in the arab spring. there are lots of disagreement among them, they want to know what exactly the u.s.'s role will be moving forward and where its priorities lie. michaela? >> michelle, thank you so much for that. let's take a look at your headlines this hour. new this morning, the death toll from the catastrophic mudslide in washington state now stands at 24. 17 of those bodies have been recovered. 90 people remain missing and unaccounted for. oscar pistorius will not be taking the stand in his own defense. his murder trial has been adjourned until april 7th. one of the judge's assessors has been hospitalized. the double amputee track star killed his girlfriend, reeva
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steenkamp, after a loud argument on valentine's day last year. new development in the ukraine, president obama warning russia that it must move back troops from the ukraine border calling it a possible intimidation tactic or that russia may have additional plans. ukrainian official says close to 100,000 russian troops are there. u.n. general assembly thursday overwhelmingly approved a resolution rebuking russia. with the deadline for enrolling in obamacare, 6 million americans have signed up. the numbers are surging. the healthcare.gov website had 1.5 billion visitors on wednesday of this week alone according to officials. critics are blasting a bridgegate investigation that clears new jersey governor chris christie. that was conducted by a law firm hired by christi. it found he knew nothing about those george washington lane closures and concludes two of
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his now fired aides acted on their own. state and federal authorities are still investigating. >> he still hasn't made up his mind whether he's going to run for president. he says, they love me in iowa. >> that's true. >> i'm not making a judgment call here, people. let's take another break. coming up on "new day," follow the breaking news this morning. new objects in the new search zone. search teams are racing hundreds of miles to find out if this is pieces of the missing malaysian airliner. the very latest on the international mission to find flight 370 next. also ahead, moments of heroism during the catastrophic mudslide in washington state. we'll hear from a father who risked his own life to save a little baby. mine was earned in korea in 1953.
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welcome back to "new day" everyone. breaking news in the search for flight 370. objects, new objects have been spotted in a new search zone. that new search area is based on leads provided to investigators by a group that includes the faa and the ntsb. cnn's richard quest, our aviation correspondent and host of "quest means business" is here. let's show people where the new search area is. this is a new search area 700 miles from the old search area. the old search area in green. this is off the coast of perth. they came to the conclusions on this not because of anything they've seen happen down here but all the way up here. >> right. what they have discovered looking generally at the radar data, the primary radar data, little blips up here by kuala lumpur, by malaysia where we had the first turn in the south
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china sea into the straits of malacca, they now believe that the plane was traveling faster, faster in this part of the journey. now just like your car, if you travel faster in the beginning of a journey, there's less gas, if you like, for you to get further south. so what happened here -- >> you see it right there as it's turning south going south in this so-called southern corridor. >> correct. there are certain knowns. we know now that it was traveling -- they believe it was traveling faster. we know that it was traveling for at least six hours because of the -- >> because of the handshakes. >> we know it has to hit the southern arc. we've seen the southern arc. put all the knowns together and you come to the conclusion that actually the plaep was traveling faster than first thought up here but a little bit slower, 400 knots or so, coming down
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into the south indian ocean. when you put those facts together, it inexorably leads them to conclude that the search zone, the crash point, whatever you want to call it, is now here to the north. the plane didn't go as far. >> well, let's talk about that. the terminology used was crash point. also very interesting in this new search zone because the officials overnight as they were briefing says, this area now is where they believe the flight went down. >> yes. if you look at the currents, let's show you the currents on exactly what's been happening and you'll see that the old crash or the old debris area down there, you have very aggressive currents. >> that yellow line there, one of the most powerful currents in the world down there. >> absolutely. but once you get to the new area just about here, you start to see much less. so last night they were very much saying, no, the crash point and the debris field could be very close to each other. they didn't quite put it as bluntly as that, but that was
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the gist of what they said. interestingly at this morning's news conference in kuala lumpur, they still say some of the debris could have moved further to the south and some of these satellite pictures, but the truth is we now know all the assets, the ships, the planes, everything has been moved northwards to this, to this new zone. >> let's talk about what the planes have been doing today because these planes have been taking off from perth already flying over this new search area. we got the news an hour ago, richard, that a p-3 orion from new zealand did spot what looks like could be objects within this search zone. >> excellent news that they've spotted something and interesting that they've done it so quickly because if this is the right area, then the conclusion starts to become, we might see more objects and we might see it more quickly. but what is particularly interesting is that the distance from perth to the new zone is much less. it's a good several hundred miles less, therefore, it takes less to fly here, they can spend
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longer over and then they can go back. it's better weather, no longer the dreadful weather we've had in the southern part. now it's much better. >> as you say, it's much easier to get here. >> much easier. >> they will know whether they're right or wrong about this new search area presumably more quickly. >> the only final caveat that we really have to say is that the sums that they are doing, back up here. it's boeing basically that looked at the aircraft performance data. they've obviously given boeing more information from the radar. boeing has recalculated the data for the 777 200. they now know much better about the fuel burn up here. it really is a case of once you know how much fuel is on board and you know the speed up here and you know where it has to go roughly in the arc here, they start to move. it's disappointing but at least it's a great progression in terms of the investigation. >> you know, richard, you've covered aviation for a long
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time. how do we trust that they're right this time and they weren't right a few weeks ago. >> you don't. simple. you don't. let's be blunt about this. we are guilty. the prime minister, the transport minister last night in the conference, the atsb australia, they keep saying to us, this is the best information we have at the moment. this is the best lead we've got. this is what we're working upon. they cannot be faulted if we then choose to run after the horses saying, this is it. but they have been very clear, the information, the [ applause ] cisicitsicity -- plausity of dey are working with the best that they have. >> the next two key moments in the next 24 hours, the p-3 orion, they will upload the images we presume. >> they will up load the images. >> and tomorrow afternoon there will be a ship in that region to confirm it?
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>> yes. >> and it will be easier for that ship to confirm it than we've had in the past. we've had all the satellite images over the last week or so. those were not confirmable because they were hard to find. >> you've still got to get there. let's not make it look like it's fishing on the lake. you've still got to get the boat up there, you've still got to find it, you've still got to get it on board. >> presumably the p-3 orion did drop sono buoy. >> refusing to lose hope. she is not yet ready to say and accept that the plane crashed in the southern indian ocean. we want to find out why. that interview ahead. also this, hope amid tragedy. a baby rescued from the catastrophic mudslide in washington, state. dear sun,
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welcome back. time now forty-five things you need for your "new day." number one, objects have been spotted in the new search area for flight 370 in malaysian.
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they're steaming towards that area where the objects were spotted. the search area has shifted almost 700 miles northeast. new this morning, the death toll from saturday's catastrophic mudslide has risen to 24. 90 people remain missing or unaccounted for. the oscar pistorius murder trial is on hold. the so-called blade runner was expected to take the stand but the judge adjourned the trial until april 7th because an assessor was hospitalized. president obama expected to get a chilly reception when he meets with king abdullah in riad. boston in mourning for two firefighters killed in the line of duty. michael kennedy and edward walsh worked there. last night, the boston bruins honored the pair with a moment of silence. always updating five things to
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know. go to newday.cnn for the latest. we are waiting a grim announcement from washington state. authorities expected to report a substantial rise in the death toll from that devastating landslide north of seattle. right now at least 24 people are believed dead. 90 still missing or unaccounted for and as their families brace for the worst, stories of heart break and heroism are pouring in. here's cnn's anna cabrera. >> reporter: a heroic moment in the midst of tragedy. an infant pulled from the wreckage of the deadly landslide. >> i was the right guy at the right time. >> reporter: it was saturday minutes after this hill collapsed on a community below when cody weston rushed into the disaster zone after hearing cries for help. >> i could see that baby's face, he was all bruised up. he wasn't breathing very good. wasn't moving. >> reporter: the baby's mother also trapped in the mud and severely injured. >> she said his name was duke.
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i asked her if i could take him out of there. she said, yeah. >> reporter: in a brave and bold move, cody, the father, scooped up the six month old and ran to rescuers who just arrived. >> there was a ripped up roof on the mud there and laid the baby on that and i ripped off my jacket i had on and wrapped him up in that. >> reporter: baby duke and his mother are survivors, but here not all stories have the same happy outcome. 150 rescue workers, countless volunteers and hef ri machinery are up against mother nature, mud piled three stories high, tons of toppled trees and scraps of scattered homes. dozens are still missing and a death toll still expected to rise. dave browner's days of digging to debris led to summer raffo. >> we were removing steering wheels. she was sitting right in her driver's seat. and we -- we got her out enough and then i wrapped my arms
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around her. >> closure for steven kneel's family as well. the 52-year-old plumber was identified among the deceased. >> of course, we melted. i dropped the phone and i screamed a little bit. >> reporter: now the daunting task of moving forward. >> we just can't think of life without him. >> reporter: anna cabrera, cnn, derrington, washington. your heart breaks as the expectation is it will get worse. >> they are expecting the death toll to rise. >> significantly, too. going to take another break. coming up next on "new day," the partner of an american on flight 370, does she really think phillip wood isn't coming home? why she's not willing to believe the plane actually crashed. hear her explanation. her emotional, compelling interview coming up next. satellites scouring a new
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breaking this morning, new objects spotted in the indian ocean. searchers are racing to the location that is almost 700 miles away from the previous search area in this new search zone. the families of the passengers aboard malaysia airlines flight 370 have been told that the plane went down in the southern indian ocean. that was where it ended. in the lack of any actual physical evidence though is
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allowing some loved ones to hold out hope. earlier this morning i spoke with sarah bajack, the partner of phillip wood, a passenger aboard flight 370. >> reporter: it seems every new day there is new information and a twist in the information and the search for your partner and all of those on the flight. how are you today with every new twist that comes your way? >> i'm actually better today because i stopped watching the news. i mean, other than the occasional check in to make sure there's nothing critical, but, you know, the reality is every lead has been a false lead so far and the up and down was killing me so i just had to stop watching. >> yeah. i think many people would understand that. earlier this week, sarah, it seemed from your facebook postings and your messages that you had come to the point where you were resigned that you were not going to see phillip again, but now it seems that you still
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are hopeful. what has changed for you during this week? >> well, the message that i had put out was actually monday evening. it had been a traumatic run up to the press conference, you know, the way they announced the conference itself was very fear provoking and then the text message that came right before the press conference came sounded so definitive, that there was proof, and so i don't even know that i heard all of the press conference because my -- my heart was thudding so loud in my ears, but the immediate response was, oh, my god, you know, there's no hope left, and i'm going to have to resign myself to this. it was -- the only feeling i can equate to it is just like falling off the top of a building. just falling through the air. but after a couple of hours, you know, i had a chance to talk with my son and he's very clear
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headed and he looked at the text message and he looked at the -- or he heard me talk about the press conference and he said, you know, they haven't told us anything at all. they've just packaged it differently. and so once i realized that, then the fear and the resignation actually has turned into a bit of anger that they could be so irresponsible as to -- as to have that message for families. >> and who are you angry at? are you angry because they didn't give you any information or the information that they gave you you don't think is founded in any real evidence? >> it's not the fault of the information. the evidence or the data they receive is the evidence. it was the fact that they made the pronouncement, right, that all hope is lost. they're sure beyond a reasonable doubt that the airplane is in the water and nobody has survived. they don't know that. they just don't. and even though i realize from a
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logical perspective that that could be the likely outcome, there are plenty of other options that still exist. and we've seen very little pursuit of those other options. it's almost an intentional -- an intentional effort to avoid other choices. >> and the new information that has come out today overnight for us here in the united states that they've now completely shifted the search area to a different part of the indian ocean, does that change anything for you? >> no, it doesn't because we've seen them change their plan of attack an infinite number of times so far and it has been a false lead. now that doesn't mean that this time won't be more substantiated. i take comfort in the fact that the australians are taking a concrete hand in this but, you know, i can't keep guessing what's going to work or not work. i just have to stay focused on
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being positive and trying to push a positive message forward and wait until there's actual concrete proof. >> you really do understand when she said the ups and downs are killing me. you can only imagine that that is a thought shared by all the family. >> she stayed so strong through this. that was remarkable. i was fascinated in what she said she was still planning on moving to malaysia. >> when you talk to people who face situations like this or lose someone they love, they have to keep thinking forward. it's almost like our human brain has to keep thinking about the next step. >> the problem everyone has here though for these families, they don't have closure. they can't -- it sounds to mow that sarah is ready to accept any eventual outcome. she said logically i can understand that maybe we'll find out it ends up in indian ocean, but until then i totally understand. i'm holding out hope and not
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being able to accept it. >> they wercht through so much the first few weeks with the malaysian officials. i think they don't trust anything. >> we all process all of this differently. thanks so much for the great conversation. a break here on "new day." we've seen a series of satellite images showing possible debris, objects spotted in the indian ocean. how do we know what matters? we'll ask an expert next during the break.
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breaking news in the search for flight 370. objects sighted. confirmation on the sightings is expected tomorrow. overnight australia moved the search zone 700 miles from where they were searching. satellites are scouring that new area trying to get new imagery, trying to get new clues. as we've learned over the past few days, those satellite images can be tricky. he's ceo and co-founder and former vice president of digital globe. quite a business card you have. i was just thinking about that. i want to talk to you about this news that we have. the spotted debris. more objects spotted. but this time by plane. this was not satellite imagery. this morning the new zealand air force spotted something that they're going to analyze their data from. hopeful? i mean, i think we're all
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keeping a hopeful eye, right? >> you said a little bit about it before. there's a sense of frustration. so much of the time and attention has been focused here before. if you look in the past week, all of the imaging satellites, of which there have been many, have been focusing their lenses on this region. now we have a new area to look at. we've been going pack and saying, is there anything new? any new satellite imagery that might have been collected? unfortunately not because the search has been focused in a different spot. >> we know they were up against bad weather yesterday. >> that's right. >> the air search had been called off. you're not going to get good satellite data from a really cloudy inclement weather day. >> two important points. one is the report that you came out with this morning showing that the orion has detected something. there's something in the search area. that's hopeful. >> explain why. the orion can detect things that our eyes can't? >> right. i'm not an expert in all the different types of sensors that they have aboard the plane, but
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from my understanding they're trained to look for metallic objects. they're sub hunters. that's part of what they do. seeing something, getting that signal in this area, that's what they're doing. jennifer had a session a minute ago explaining the meterology and the weather and currents that perfectly described it. tomorrow in 12 hours or so, the imaging satellites should allow people to collect images in this area. the weather plays a part. as she showed in the segment, clouds are coming in. that will hamper the optical search. you need the flight crews to get below the cloud deck. you need people to detect this. >> that's the exasperation. you might get imagery that's nice and clear, right? but then by the time you get it you're not able to search and get the planes or ships there because of weather? >> possibly. i think people are getting more attuned to this whole cycle. >> it is a cycle. >> it is. from the moment of collection to
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the moment of analysis, i think it's getting better. it's a little larger. >> so we've talked about the fact that it's been refocused. >> right. >> i think there was initially some frustration. was this here or not? wasting resources, hours, precious time looking in this region. what do you say to that? >> no, it wasn't a waste of time. this is an extremely dynamic situation. just like an accident investigation scene like david was talking about before, this is part of the cycle. it's frustrating because we don't have the precision yet, but with each passing day we're getting more information. literally the world is doing the best they can as the information becomes available. >> 700 miles to the northeast, a new search area. we know there's an advantage. not as far for search planes to get to. we know the weather is a little bit better. the currents are a little bit better. could it be that if this was the point of entry could debris have moved from all of this imagery we've seen, are we to throw all
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of this out and say this is just sea junk? >> i don't think you can throw it all out. it does raise to me as an imagery analyst that question. we've talked a lot about these aspects in the past several days multiple satellites detecting something. we were never able to conclusively prove that, that they were objects from that. >> we're getting word from producers. we have breaking news. five aircraft have just spotted additional debris or objects. do we know how many objects were spotted? multiple objects. we're getting this. we're just now into our newsroom that additional. so this is obviously giving you -- >> that's what you need. >> this is what you need. >> this is what you need. >> we need repeated sightings. >> that search area that we're looking at in the north, now it's starting to hit. it's seeing in particular the orion, plus the new hit that you just got. >> right. >> >> that to me is very promising. >> further promising is this is not satellite data, this is from aircraft. you're starting to feel confident? >> i am.
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>> you want repeated hits and sightings? >> correct. >> the next step is to get the data on what those items are, those objects are? >> right. hopefully physically retrieve them. >> get the ships there. get the ships there and take them and get your hands on them and look at them? >> uh-huh. >> this is a big piece of -- this is a big development. again, we just received word that five different aircraft have spotted multiple objects in this new search zone. this is in addition to the new zealand air force that had spotted objects in that same new area. i want to get one last little bit of information from you on this because i think, you know, some of our friends on the blogs and online and on twitter are saying, look, i can google my backyard. >> right. >> google maps will show me, you know, the car parked in my neighbor's driveway, a dog walking along the street, yet i get a black and white grainy satellite. i think this is a great explanation. >> we get asked this question in the imagery world all the time. the person simply, this was not
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from the satellite. this was taken by the airplane. the resolution and detail that you can see, probably in this case it was taken between 10 and 25 centimeters. less than a foot. you're able to see all kinds of things taken by an airplane. the area on the right was taken by a satellite at 450 miles up in space. so fundamentally physics, you're not going to be able to see the same kind of quality of data. there's also another point. here with airplanes, there's no restriction on the quality of data that can be seen. >> i can hear you at home, we know the satellites can see the writing on a basketball or the license plate on my car. >> don't believe everything you've read before, number one. number two, there is a legal limit here in the united states and only lets the company sell at 50 centimeter resolution. airplane data, probably 20 centimeters, maybe 10 centimeters. here 50 centimeters.
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that's being reviewed. companies can do better, they're just not legally allowed to do that publicly. >> that shows us why that aircraft is so important. thank you so much. kate, over to you. this is a great development. we'll be back in a minute with more on the breaking news we were talking about. ten aircraft were in the air in this search zone. multiple sightings of objects spotted. more ahead. ♪
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welcome back to "new day." following continued breaking news for flight 370, we've talked about the refined search zone. the latest update is that ten planes went up today to search that new zone. five planes, five aircraft have reported multiple sightings of objects in the new search zone. >> this is a really interesting development. the first plane we heard from was a new zealand p-3 orion seeing two blue grayish rectangular objects in the seas. then an australian plane was able to go back and see those same objects again. that hasn't happened yet during the search and rescue. five total planes spotted
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objects. there are surface vessel ships, one chinese ship expected to be in the region tomorrow. >> trying to get eyes on it. a refined search zone for flight 370. they do say in this report that weather conditions are expected to be good in that area tomorrow. we'll continue to follow that. we'll be following the breaking news in a moment. we'll have a live report from australia ahead. we want to return briefly to this week's cnn hero. in canada, cancer is the leading cause of death for women and for moms with young children, the diagnosis can be doubly devastating. not just what it means for them but of course for their children. that's where this week's cnn hero comes in. >> let's g brush your teeth. being a single mom is a full-time job. you're tired. when i was diagnosed with cancer, the first thing that
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came to me mind was my son. thinking about one day he gets up and i'm not there, it's the saddest thing for me. >> reporter: mothers who are diagnosed with cancer are caregivers who suddenly find themselves in need of care. >> hello. >> we provide free relief child care to moms undergoing cancer treatment. >> ready to go? >> some of our volunteers are even cancer survivors themselves. >> how do you rest with a 2-year-old running around? >> our program allows mothers the freedom to take a rest because that's what they need the most to get better. >> what they have done for moms with cancer is to give us hope. >> how much do you love mommy? >> 100. >> i'm going to win this battle. >> what we do won't take it away, but it will certainly make their journey a lot easier. >> you can go to "cnn
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heroes".com to nominate someone like that that you know is doing great work worth honoring. that's it for us today. have a great weekend, everyone. chris is back here on monday. "newsroom" with carol costello is here. >> thank you. have a great weekend. "newsroom" starts now. breaking overnight, a major shift in the search. >> this continuing analysis indicates the plane was traveling faster than was previously estimated. >> new credible radar information moving efforts closer to the aussie coast. so what is seen on these satellite images. are we really back to square one? families of the passengers fed up and furious walking out of a meeting with malaysian officials accusing them of a coverup. >> roger. >> this, as investigators turn their focus on the pilot. >> estimate the area complete. >> how often should pilots be psychologically tested? breaking new details coming in every hour. a special edition of "newsroom" starts now.

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