rain is certainly complicating the efforts. geologists are assessing for the potential of another landslide. that's it for me. thanks for watching. i will be back at 5:00 p.m. eastern with a special two-hour situation room. newsroom with brooke baldwin starts right now. >> as we begin the hour, the hunt for flight 370. the biggie is the search zone that moved. not just a little bit, but a lot. this is based on the assumption that they ran out of fuel earlier because it flew faster than originally thought. >> the new information is based on analysis of radar about the aircraft's movement between the south china sea and the strait of malaka. this continuing analysis

indicates the plane was traveling faster than was previously estimates resulting in increased fuel usage and decreasing the possible distance it traveled south into the indian ocean. >> also this new area here has turned up something incredible. finally we can report the first non-satellite sightings of potential debris. separate planes out of ten spotted something. this is a picture of that something. multiple objects we are told. various sizes and colors. our correspondent who has been working the story out of perth. she was on board one of the really sophisticated planes, p 8 and she herself spotted debris. take a listen to what she said. >> this plane did spot some debris. there was a bit of excitement, but the plane tipped to the right and got very, very close

to the ocean. some white debris and orange rope and a blue bag. it wasn't significant enough to say that it was connected to the plane at all. >> we will have much more from her shortly. the promising news is here that for the first time one plane was able to relocate something spotted by a previous plane. the seas in the search area northeast of the previous is also a lot closer to land. that's key here. it makes itacier for the search planes to get there. spend more time over the seas and then return back. meantime, word of this new search zone, a potentially wasted days and days of searching the old spot was too much for the family members who walked out of the briefing in beijing. you see the empty seats? they walked out in protest, leaving the panel to stare at the report empty rows. a representative berated them.

going back to the big news, the new search area, a mirnnew upsi it has calmer and gentler weathers. the old latitude is known for the temptest weather where the previous zone was located. nasty conditions there. chad meyer, let me bring you back in as we have this new development. we talk so much about the previous search zone and the horrible conditions here. 2:00 in the morning their time. how will it look in the new area? >> not too bad. there is a storm and i think it will affect them a little bit, but they will still fly there. what yesterday did was gave us a bunch of clear skies. all of these satellites that have been looking down in this area finally got a clear day. not that that we had which was murky clouds, but a clear day. all the satellites that passed over the area got a good look.

they will go back and look at the images from the satellites and maybe help things out. i don't understand when you find something on the satellite like 300 things and you don't keep going looking for that. that blows my mind. it's like getting a hit on the battle ship to see which way the ship is. you keep searching. anyway, i digress. here's the same story right here. this is the old search area and the new search area. other than this batch of cloudiness and that's a little thunderstorm complex, remember now it's hurricane and cyclone season. this is the summer part. this is the warm part of the year for them. that's when you get these thunderstorm complexes. these tropical complexes. here is the screaming 60s. the 50s here and we are still close to the 40 degree latitude

south. what this does on the earth-orbiting satellites, they don't have to look at it at such an angle. this is a lot of things going for the new area if there is something there. >> taking your analogy, no one is looking to sink anyone's battle ships. they are looking to find the pieces of the black box. when you talked about the older areas that we focused on because the malaysian government focused on the areas, what do the pieces of whatever it was, debris mean. listen to the transportation minster. >> because of ocean drift, this new search area could still be consistent with the potential objects identified by previous satellite images over the past week. >> so chad is standing by. let me bring in the next two guests. we have a research scientist and here with me in new york, aviation analyst. let me begin with you, jeff.

sitting next to me, when you electric at the pictures accident can we throw up the picture from the actual piece of debris here. the sighting of this white square object we will see in a second. what does that look like to you? anything? >> it being looks like a rectangle. one of the things i think we learned, there is a lot of debris in the ocean and most is not airplane. we can expect to get a lot of false positives. closer to main shipping channels and human habitation and everything that runs off the land through storm drains and things that get thrown off the ships. human beings make a lot of stuff that winds up in the ocean. >> when you see this picture and you know how it works maybe not with this search pacificalspeci. you have the satellite images

and when they pinpoint objects and specks and debris, they send these sophisticated planes out and ultimately they send ships to hopefully recover the stuff to see if it's connected to the plane? >> yes. you know as much as i do about that type of aspect of the search. what i know is what the currents are doing in that general area. i look at the currents and the satellite data. >> what is that? about the currents. >> what the currents do is they move the debris around as do winds when they are on the surface, they can move debris as well. we suspect that it's probably sitting mostly in the surface of the ocean versus sticking up largely out of the water. the currents and the strength of the currents will play a role in if you spot it at one spot and go back six hours later, how much will it have moved? the great thing about this

location if indeed this is the right place to look, the currents are way slower compared to the other search location by say five miles a day travel versus 35 miles a day as well as the winds. you won't have as many waves to obscure spotting things as well as wins drifting things along. this is a hopeful area to look, although as was previously mentioned, it's closer to australia. there is a current that goes along the coast and sheds off these eddys that carry water along that includes garbage from the coast. there will be a lot more chances for the debris to not be associated with the plane, but if it is associated with the plane, we have a much narrower search area. >> it seems encouraging, but this is what i keep coming back to. if i'm one of the family members and i have been holed up in this

hotel in kuala lumpur and beijing and you mean to tell me they have been delivering news of debris here and there based upon satellite imagery, you have been wasting my time. >> it's more than frustrating if you have a loved one involved. so much of what we know is we are inferring from what they are saying and having to work between the lines. there is a disclosure and they are invoking the authority of the malaysian prime minister and the australian prime minister. a lot of things they asked us to take their word on haven't panned out. >> the chunks of debris, is that now totally irrelevant? >> that seems to be what they are saying. >> stick around and we have more for you. we want to talk about the plane speeding up. this is more information we are learning and what this might tell us about auto pilot and whether it was on or off.

my colleague in perth hopped on the plane searching for debris shoo she herself saw an object in the water. you will hear from her. what did she say? what are the searches like? the airline ceo today revealing that he has his pilots get psych tests. is this normal? how often does this happen and what questions are asked and what are the red flags that are i watching for? you are watching cnn's special coverage.

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>> and there she goes. you just saw her granted this rare access in a search plane. she just stepped off and told us during this nine hours of searching, she and the crew did spot objects near australia. >> this plane did spot some debris. there was a bit of excitement that the plane tipped to the right and got very, very close to the ocean. some white debris and orange ropes and a blue bag. it wasn't significant enough to say it was connected to the plane at all. fatigue is a big concern. i won't say that it's a problem. it's something they are all aware of. at lot of the crew you were with. they rotated after 30 minutes to an hour. they were self checking or

checking each other to make sure they rotate. fatigue if you stare out at the same space again and again and have to stay alert, that will be a problem. that's why they constantly talked about it and they were standing up and changing positions. that's something they worry about. >> thank you. we will talk to a navy s.e.a.l. in a little bit about how they are trained to focus on debris and how to mark them on the grid. that will be a fascinating discussion. you, jeff, are the cnn aviation analyst. beyond the new search area, we talked so much about the left turn. after this left turn where according to reports and whether this is fax or fiction, we don't know if it descended to 12,000 feet. we learned that the plane slowed down. >> it was very confusing how this was worded. what they said was we think the

aircraft initially during that first left hand segment sped up and used more fuel. speed is secondary. what's important is it used more fuel. it had less when we talked about the southern turn. it made a turn and headed south into the indian ocean. we know where it wound up and when it wound out. about 8:11. to get from the spot at 22:22 to the ark at 8:11, it must have traveled a smaller distance. it must have been traveling at a slower rate because it had less fuel. the thing i want to add, there is a lot of different ways to burn less fuel. it's all about altitude. we are guesstimating and the

search area had extra intelligence. it now seems clear that they were guesstimating the speed. they continued to travel and something crashed into the indian ocean. can you speed up and slow down on auto pilot or are we to calm with this knowledge that someone must have been at the wheel? >> the issue is less whether it was done on auto pilot or entering wave points, but was it done intentionally or the result of an accident? >> the speed or altitude? >> the flight path of the plane. was it the result of an accident and somehow the plane was supplying itself or was this carried out intentionally by

whatever was in charge of the plane? >> we are not clear of that. >> it seems as it did before. pretty clear this was intentional. this is not a plane meandering. it made a left turn and another left turn and flew straight for another six hours. that is not the kind of thing you see from a plane on its own. i should add that there is another assumption that the plane flew at a constant rate of speed. the only reason we have to make that assumption is that the equations don't work otherwise. if it was zigzagging around, you have the effect of a plane flying lower and going further north. know it was on the ark. if it's going slower, it's closer to indonesia. still so much we don't know. the pilots are required to take and what that entails in a

minute. stay with me. coming up, we heard from the ceo of malaysia airlines with bad news pilots who undergo these psychological evaluations. how often were the tests done and the older pilot and the younger copilot here, were they cleared by all these tests? that's next.

. welcome back. i'm brooke baldwin. did the pilots of flight 370 get mental health evaluations. they lifted the curtains into

his airline regulations. i should mention investigators into the captain and copilot have thus far in the turned up any big leads. a u.s. official said nothing suspicious has jumped out on the hard drives belonging to the pilot and the copilot. let's bring in paula hancock live for us in kuala lumpur. how often does this specific airline, malaysia air, do these psychological tests on their pilots? >> these tests we are being told from the chief in a press conference, they say that every new pilot that joins the company has to undergo this psychological testing and it's not just when you start. it does continue throughout your career. it's important he said that after they do continue to test them. let's listen to what he said.

>> that's something that we check every six months or depending on how old they are. that's normally done during an interview with the doctors. >> this is something that investigators are looking at. the focus is on the pilots and the absence of physical evidence and knowing what happened and the fact that malaysian authorities are saying it was deliberate action that let to this disappearance. it focuses on the pilots and the one question was, did they know each other? did they know each other and have they flown together before they got inside the cockpit. he said he didn't know. it was an internal rostering system. it's possible they may or may not have. they didn't know. >> as far as any psych tests, any red flags in the past? could he say?

>> no. he didn't say anything about that and in theory given what he said, they are checked every six months or a year. if everything that happened as it should have done in theory they would have cleared. they were in the air and they were actually flying. he didn't say there were any red flags whatsoever. >> thank you. let me bring you back in, jeff. before you said yes, you are not a commercial pilot, but you have flown private and had to take these psych tests. i'm curious when we are talking about a pilot or a copilot, what kind of questions are asked and what answers might trigger red flags? >> to make a point, it's essential that pilots of private or atp be in sound ifs and mental health. you are not allowed to take certain classes of drugs. anything that would impair your

judgment. i haven't taken these tests myself, but anything that would lead to psychotic break or any dhan pred condition that predisposes you to suicide. >> obviously they were flying. one would have to dedeuce no red flags, i pose. >> doesn't mean there is nothing there. >> thank you. coming up here, a development in the search today. for the 50 time, crews have spotted potential debris in the water and those objects are in this new search zone. are they close to answers? also ahead, families staging a walk out at today's press briefing and the partner of an american on that plane is blasting this airline for saying all lives are lot of. hear directly from her.

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. a new day, a new crash zone. shifts by humans of miles and multiple planes have spotted objects in this new location. take a look at this. for the first time, we are seeing anything like this. the new photograph that is

chinese state television that shows what is described as a suspicious object spotted by a new we will have ant military plane to try to relocate this item. incredibly, the search planes spotted objects in the water below. that is new today. the big question, why the dramatic shift in location. analysts say this is based upon calculations and they suggest they flew faster that burned through more fuel shortening the potential flight path. let's go to cnn live at 2:30 in the morning at perth, australia. what do we know about the latest debris sightings? by actual human eye. >> this is unprecedented in the search. you mentioned that this is the first time that the planes from two countries were able to

locate the same patch of debris. the same photo going viral, this is one of what we are told are many photos are being studied at this hour. you can only tell so much from a photo. what's also happening is there five ships heading to this area and they expect to arrive and going to the site. they are going to pick it up and take a look and go from there. very, very promising developments out there with the new search zone. >> that's right. a few hours from now, they will fly out. this zone is closer to the coastline. it only takes a couple of hours to get out there. the weather forecast is good. we had great success today and five of the planes were able to spot debris and see it with their own eyes. they will keep looking. keep scanning the area and searching. the five ships will join a

vessel which is already in place. the key here with those who can get it in the hands of those who can analyze it. >> that's happening and we keep going back to much a do about the other debris fields from previous images. are those no longer pertinent to the search? >> satellite pictures, they are valuable in the search for something tangible. what is more valuable to the people who are closely investigating the case is all the data and the radar images and the satellite. they are looking at this because they can calculate the altitude the plane was flying at. how fast it was going. they put all of those pieces and realized that the plane burned too much fuel at the beginning of the trip and wouldn't have been able to go far south in the

area they were searching. it may have seemed like a set back, it was a great development forward in the investigation to be able to say no, this is the wrong area. this is the correct area we are looking for. you saw today, they are coming up with positive developments. >> encouraging. let's hope they can recover this and back track and figure out what happened. from perth, to you so much. let's go to chris christie. now he is taking questions. this is the first time this happened in two months. take a listen. >> if they consider this issue at all, they consider my candidacy if there is one. i have a feeling it will be small if any at all. in terms of my decision making, simple low not the way i would make a decision. do i think it's best for me and my family, do i have something

unique and particular to offer that office at that particular time? i will seek that office and if the answer to either of those is no, i won't. there won't be anything else that will enter into it. anybody who tries to game out the toll picks of this kind of stuff years in advance, they have shown that's a fool. sure. there is nothing that is permanent about that. same way there is nothing permanent about my standing being extraordinarily high. there is nothing permanent about this stuff. anybody who thinks i said that all along when my polls were good, you weren't here. i said that all along when the polls were high. they came down when you make decisions and do things and events occur. they impact you.

if i were running tomorrow, maybe it would be a moment to me. i run for reelection and i got 61% of the vote. if i was running for something else, you know what they care about in the few days before the election, they don't mean anything. in the end, i got to tell you, they are not what i'm most concerned about. i'm the governor of new jersey. i have a job to do. i will do my job the best way i can. as i said dozens of types if i do my job the best i can, the future will take care of itself. >> [inaudible]. . >> the laws about the state and local who are broken and there was a public safety and you are made aware of this in early october.

you admitted to that. your staff and some of your staff is aware of that. most of them are former federal prosecutors. how is it that this went on for roughly eight weeks or so where all of these former federal prosecutors are accepting really what was the word of a couple of sales men in the study. >> it's colorful. why don't you get to the question and cut the commentary back a little bit. >> they can not understand that the executive director, the top person -- >> not my top person. can you get to it already. i will answer it. they didn't, first off. the first time this came into my conscious was the "wall street journal" story of october 1 or two. somewhere in that neighborhood. when the executive director

leaked his memo to the newspapers. he had written weeks earlier. and i said to two former prosecutor, the chief of staff and chief council, find out what's going here. the way you do that is, in a normal circumstance where you are dealing with an operational issue, to go to the people and ask them what's going on. they came back and said this was a traffic study and we blew the notifications to the executive director. that's our fault. it was a traffic study and he is just upset because he didn't know about it. contextually that made sense to me. as you can see from the report, there was a history of conflict between these folks at the port authority. i heard about conflict between chris ward, the former executive director and pat foy, the current expectative director on a regular basis.

that's why i believe that the best way to deal with this and something to consider is taking the hatfields and the mccoys. they haven't been able to get along with them despite my best efforts and the best efforts of governor cuomo and many predecessors. nobody dropped the ball. you are looking at them from the editorializing and everything else from the perspective of what you know today. if i knew then what i knew today, i would have done a lot of things differently. but we didn't. we went and asked the questions and we got what we believed to be satisfactory answers back from the folks we put at the port authority and believed it was an operational issue with the port authority that they needed to dole with. we told them to deal with it. that's where it ended. part of the problem is with all of us looking through the

retrospect row scope. you are always smarter and always know more when you have that. we didn't have thatty then. i think it's unfair characterization to say that our folks didn't do anything for eight weeks. the report lays out that they went and pursued a number of avenues all the way to the december 13th press conference to challenge and question people about what went on here and what each individual's role was. it wasn't effective. people didn't tell us the truth. they tried to get the answers. >> governor, some of your closestid aides thought this behavior was appropriate. what have you learned from this experience and what have you changed about how you govern? >> first of all, i would say that one of my closest aides participated in this.

for that she was fired. that's the first thing i did. to set a different tone here. people need to understand if you participate, you will not have trust. i have done a lot of soul searching on this over the last weeks. it's about making clearer what is acceptable and what isn't. i will say also as i said yesterday, anybody who works for me and believes that something like this was going to be something that was pleasing or acceptable to me didn't know me in the first place. from that perspective, i am not only disappointing.

that's what is acceptable conduct and what is not. it's a larger organization and one that i did not do as well as i needed to do obviously with this happening and that i intend to focus on more as we move forward. >> have you changed procedures? >> yes, sir? it's just the attorney general declined to participate in the internal investigation by your outside counsel. it's kind of just a two-part question. one, did that concern you and two, did the attorney general talk to you to offer you an explanation? he was having the trouble and is the resignation. >> as i said in the statement, he called me this afternoon and on the first part of your question, i spoke to general sampson on january 8th. and i asked him what he knew about this and if he had

involvement and authorized it or had any idea about it. he said absolutely not. that rang true to me because his honesty over his entire career, they did not have an operational role. like the port thrt. with the lack of. >> 'tisation and conducted by the master group. the issues of attorney-client privilege he feared would be compromised if he participated. i didn't push it further because it wasn't my role, but that was the explanation he gave me and i had no reason not to believe that.

again, i think his role was not central in any of these things nor has it been alleged. those decisions that he had to make based upon his obligation through his clients. that was the decision he made whether i agree with them or not. it's a different matter. in the end, he had their own individual obligations to clients and what they think they can and cannot say publicly because of that. >> over the past months i shared with the governor my desire the service to the port authority. in that conversation they wanted to ask. >> yes.

>> i will stay on as long as i think i'm able. >> this preceded by the way his discussion about leaving the port authority goes back a year. he's 74 years old and he was tired. that's what he told me. i said well, i'm in the middle of a reelection campaign and going through a transition if i'm reelect and why don't we deal with these things at that time and not in the middle of all of this. i prefer you to stay. he did. david has been talking about wanting to move on. because he just was tired. he 7ed a long time. he is 74 years old and said chris, i would like to spend more time doing other things. i asked him as governor to please stay and give me the time in what i hoped was going to be a transition to a second term to be able to make the decisions during a period of time and in

deference to me and long-term relationships, he was willing to stay on. john? >> a couple weeks ago, there were reports of the 2011 toll ways and those reports portrayed the roll out different low than it was portrayed at the time. do you want to respond to the stories and explain again what your role if any was? >> not really. my view is that those are the types of operational things that the port authority listens to all the time. speak up a little. >> [inaudible]. >> sure. a few things.

one, when an administration needs to respond, proechlt appropriately and in my direction swiftly to inquiries from the committee and a prosecuting office. you need to bring a law firm in to do that. we don't have the capacity inhouse to do that nor would people think it would be appropriate to do that. so there was never any question in my mind that we will have to bring in the law firm from the outside to be able to shepherd the responses that were needed to the subpoenas served by the legislative committee and the u.s. attorney's office. we wanted to do that as quickly and cooperatively as we could. we wanted a significant law firm with the type of resources available to them to be able to do this job as quick low as possible. i also made perfect sense to me and is best practices with the department of justice. when you have a problem like this, you conduct an internal

review to find out what happened and make recommendations to try to prevent this conduct in the future. having the same group do all of that made sense to me for both efficiency and effectiveness. no matter who i chose to do this, questions would be raised by some as to those people's objectivity. my answer to that is lock at the report. we gave them unfettered complete access to everyone in this government. and allowed them to interview people multiple times if they so entired on multiple occasions in order to try to get to the bottom of things. they gave them complete access not only to the professional e-mails, but to the personal e-mails and personal devices. to be able to review text messages as well. the objectivity in this report is based on two things. one, the breath of it and the access they had without

restrictions. the reputation of the six people running these things. these are the prosecutors who i can guarantee you to work hard to develop the reputations they have earned over the course of their career and would not give away those reputations to do a slip shod job for me. lastly as to relationships with the firm, after years, heather, as u.s. attorney in the state and nearly five years as governor, there is probably not a major law firm in the country if not in the region that i don't have a relationship with over that time and some personal connection to. in the end what i decided to do is pick the people i thought were best to do the job and i did. the report will stand the test of time, but it will be tested by the other investigations that are ongoing and it is limited as they pointed out in small part by the access that they had and didn't have to certain people.

by the end, in the report it doesn't claim to be anything but what it is. it is exhaustive and thorough and i don't have second thoughts about who he selected or the process. no matter what, you will be criticized and when you are, you have to answer it and answer it directly. that's what we have done through the report. >> [inaudible]. . >> let's be clear. as you know, i have been known to use a word or two and myself as have a number of you as well.

it showed mow a lack of judgment that caused me to lose my confidence in bill's judgment. so that's the basis upon which i made the decision. and a decision that i stand by today because it was made purely on that basis. not on the basis of anything else. no, i don't have any change of heart on that at the moment. as far as the future goes, i'm not as you know getting into hypothetical questions about the future. kevin? >> [inaudible]. . >> i would have liked it on january 8th if i could have had it. as i said many times before, i would hope that everybody would

speak to the group. but i also have a healthy respect for people's constitutional rights. i am again not going to be critical for exercising with the advice of their lawyers, the constitutional rights. but in the end, i don't know if we will ever know the motive. when i was here january 9th, it mystifies me on every level why this was done. i hope to have an answer to why it was done. i don't know when and if they will ever know. you bet i hope to.

>> did you raise that issue and did he raise that with you and what is your review of that as he continues the examinations and close ties to the firms. >> if you look at the commissioners. in a role with the port authority, the way to deal with that is appropriate refusals. when the port authority has business that might cause a conflict with the business interest or representation you might have. my understanding over the course of time is that not only general sampson, but other members on both sides would engage in appropriate refusals when

necessary. i hope that that's what the general did and trust that's what he did in most if not all of the instances. that's an issue for him to deal with directly. i'm sure he will. i have every faith and trust and confidence in david's integrity as do people on both sides of the aisle over the course of the last 40 years that he had been involved in. i have complete confidence that he acquitted himself in a way that was appropriate and ethical. if it turns out that there were some instances that were not handled in that way, that's something that we will deal with. i don't think to get to the core of your question, that you can dmeakt when you ask people from the private sector to come in and do these jobs in a part-time non-compensated way that you can ask them to give up their private sector life which they used to support themselves and their families. the way to deal with that is to

have an effective robust conflict system where people redhuz and trust they are being attended to and if not, it should be attended to with greater care. you have a california up? >> governor chris christie there in trend on, new jersey doubling down on maintaining that he only learned about the traffic closures, this mess based upon news reports in october of last year. that's a direct contrast to what we learned very recently from david wildstein. the former protege and political ally who maintains he told chris christie about that as the lane closures were happening. the fact that the governor was speaking, this was the first news conference he held since january 9th, that marathon 109 minute news conference when it burst open, this is the first time he is speaking since his own governor's office has

exonerated him. his own office based upon the internal investigation that chris christie clearly defended the merit. gloria borger, chief analyst joining me and dana barb joining me as well. ladies, gloria first to you and dana, what jumped out at you? >> he announced a resignation of the chairman of the port authority of new york and new jersey, david sampson, a long time friend and ally. he said this resignation had been in the works for a year because mr. sampson is 74 years old. he said he has been tired for a while. he wanted to do something else. as you know, sampson did not speak to the investigators who were doing the report for governor christie's office and he has potential legal liability here and he could shed light on this. although the governor said he

told him he anyhow nothing about the lane closing. it was interesting that his resignation was announced today and we still don't know the motive for the lane closing after this entire report. >> here's my other question because much has been spoken about and chris christie was saying his own office would not be doing a slip shod job. he said listen, i have connections to different attorneys this this state. he said it was exhaustive and thorough. do these critics have a point? it's his office lawyer exonerating him. >> sure. you see editorial after editorial calling it a white wash and it's hard to know how much is in the report and how much was left on the cutting room floor. it is not an independent report. we will have to wait for other

investigations that are still going on. the investigation is one that is going on by the democratic legislature. the big picture, it's important to see and look at what chris christie is doing. this is kind of a role out of chris christie and the 2.0 maybe. coming out with this report and having this press conference pointed out at which he hasn't done in about two months and doing a couple of tv interviews. this is all him trying to reinforce the idea that he didn't know. there a couple of aides who went rogue and didn't support the kind of atmosphere that he has put out there in his governor's office, trying to reassure people all across the country especially republican donors and grass roots voters and activists, he is not the politician that maybe people think he is now. he is a different guy. it will be hard for him to continue. >> the polls show that this is a

man who is under water in favorability. he is a man who is under water with independent voter who is are important to him. as dana points out, he has to shore up that group of support within his own party if he will make a run for the presidency. >> we will see how chris christie fares. 2.0 as you call it. dana and gloria, thank you very much. now this. here we go. top of the hour. i'm brooke baldwin. live special coverage on the flight for 370. after days in the indian ocean, search crews find out, you know what, they have been looking in the wrong place. incredibly today the search moves 700 miles plus northeast and new analysis of old data suggest that the airliner could never have made it as far south as previously thought.

>> new information is based on continuing analysis of radar data about the aircraft's movement between the south china sea and the straight of malaka. it resulted in increased fuel usage and reducing the possible distance that traveled south into the indian ocean. >> so the search moves and just like that, possible debris is spotted. this is significant because we are not just talking about one bit of debris. we will try to figure out out. they have planes and they each spotted something. multiple objects and sizes and colors and for the first time, plane was even able to relocate something spotted by a previous claim. you have that today.

also word of this new search zone and potentially wasted search days are too much for the family members of passengers on board the plane here who walked out of this briefing. row upon row of empty chairs. while a representative was berated officials there. visual spotters are trained to constantly move their eyes in specific patterns while trying to spot possible objects and think about it. visual spotting is incredibly exhausting. the monotony of the ocean that can do strange things and perfect vision on the way. they can wear glasses and contact lenses. with me now is the correspondent from the jumping off point of perth, australia. she did spotting on a search

plane and also joining me is former u.s. navy s.e.a.l. who trained in these search and rescue missions. we will get to you in a minute, but you were on board this p 8, this sophisticated aircraft and you and the crews are looking down for objects. what was that experience like and did your eyes get tired looking for something? >> my eyes didn't get that tired and they were noticing how incredibly difficult it is for the people and the spotters aboard the p 8 and the giant windows who were similar to the windows they see right now. they are even bigger. what happened is is as we approach the search area, this was a closer area as we were approaching. one of the spotters said i see something. mark the spot. that spot was marked.

white objects on the sea. we dipped lower and another spotter spotted something orange rope. then there was a blue bag spotted. a bit of object finding by the spotters. is it connected to the plane? wie don't know. >> we don't know, but it's interesting that we talk about marking the spot. the indian ocean. you are trained to do this. i know we talked about greats and lodge tud and latitude, but how do you mark a spot in the ocean to return to? >> there is a couple of things in play on an aircraft like that. the pa is the latest and greatest and most advanced piece of ariel machinery when it am cans to downed pilots and planes and etc. they have radar and definition. this takes a picture of an area and you can fly over the same area, as it changes, it depixelates. marking is relatively easy when

you talk about ten-digits. between eyeballs when you capture the radar and take the pictures through camera and notes the exact position where it was taken. satellite and other incoming feeds from other assets. you would be surprised how uncomplicated it is to find debro in market and keep track of it. >> uncomplicated. i will take your word for it. back to you. we have been talking the last couple of days and what i found fascinating in talking to the searcher, they are invested in finding the plane. some were frustrated that they couldn't search because the conditions were so horrendous. how are they handling such a huge task? >> what we are hearing is that they want to get out there. it is so frustrating. today we had good weather and we felt if there was anything out there, we are going to see it.

i heard the chief pilot me that. the sense is that they want to get out there. this is a very different mission for the search teams. they want to find the debris for the families. they understand being pilots themselves and being on a plane as their jobs every day, they have families at home and they want to bring this debris home for those families. >> i hear you, chris. you agree? >> that's a great point. they are only limited by how long they can stay in the air with the constraints placed upon them. if i could play for 24 hours straight, i would do that. >> how would your eyes not glaze over staring at the ocean for hours on end? >> you do it a lot and you get used to it. i saw missions and you take eye

drops and you shift from one side to the other even if it's a different scenery. to try to keep things fresh and new and believe it, it doesn't matter how tired you are, you know that the family is waiting for word, it drives you. it really does. it drives you to do things you normally wouldn't do in a less stressful situation. >> kudos to the crews out there working tirelessly for the families. thank you. let's broaden the conversation out. joining me here, the kapt captain of the 777 and contributing editor for the magazine. tim taylor, a sea operations specialist. good to see both of you here. i want to begin with you. the newest piece of information

today is the new search area. just because we focus so much on the satellite imagery the throw 00 pieces one day and 200 the other day. are we tossing that out the window? >> ri to believe and speaking with les a little earlier, they are not telling us anything. >> let's hope not. we don't have a lot. >> it leads to the confusion with the families. if you do that and bring out data and it's wrong, they have done that too many times already. i wouldn't believe they would do it for a good reason. i want to know just as much as everybody else. are they looking for the downed area? they are not going to find it near the debris field. it moved and it's in currents and wind. if they believe that's a direct area where it went down, i have to say that's faulty thinking in the way i look at it. >> you see you nodding. >> we have to make it important

to distinguish between the impact site of the wreckage. >> where it is below the surface. >> we have to distinguish to the debris field. right now we have stuff out there that you have on the screen and maybe it's airplane stuff that would be wonderful. >> right and again to remind everyone that the process is so laborious and they have to find the pieces and make sure they belong to the plane and at least the good news we will be hearing about the search area is closer to land and that means more flying time for the search planes and two, the currents are not as horrendous. what do you make of the left turn and the news today that this plane allegedly sped up after that plane went off course and then slowed down? does that tell you anything? >> i think it's being

misconstrued from the standpoint of i think they made an assumption using trigonometry and satellite. with the pings, the determination was made and the assumption was made at high altitude. it means it's thinner air. >> not burning as much fuel. >> correct. it will go faster for a longer distance. now they are saying the airplane was going faster and therefore the imagines were pushing it faster and therefore burping more fuel. that's correct, but my point is there was a radar site we haven't totally disputed or discounted that said they went down to 12,000. it burns more fuel and not as much as i thought. i looked at boeing charts and i verified with a source that said no, indeed that's the correct numbers. at the lower altitude, we have thicker air and it goes slower against the thicker air and

travel less distance because it travels at a lower speed. you are getting to the right impact point. perhaps to the wrong reasons. i think they are establishing that one spot by 35,000 feet as opposed to 12. that's my end of the terms. it may be just turned. the pilot put in the diversionary airport and began that turn and faced that bad in the cockpit and the waypoints may be that they went near those waypoints. >> i keep coming back to the notion that heaven for bid they don't find the black box and say they find pieces of debris and they never get to the key of what happened. could they extrapolate enough to come to a sort of conclusion as far as what happened? >> if they find debris, it will have to have tell tale signs of what happened and how the plane

separated. how it hit the water. potentially what happened on the inside of the plane if there was a fire. yes, debris and finding it whether it's on the beach a year from now will be extremely important and figuring out what happened. any clue that you can find. there is an impact and sitting on the bottom of the ocean. pretty much everyone agreed on that. there is a debris field floating throughout the ocean and hit different currents. if this plane went down off the florida keys, we would be looking off north carolina. look at the difference. if you are in the search area, what exactly are they looking for? ha is debris. that's what the families need. they need to know that a plane is where it is. they may never see their families again, we worked on a project that discovered a world war two submarine and 70 years and 600 feet of water and 70 years after the war and the family had that same feeling.

it's not -- it's 70 years later, but it's still there. they got it. they knew that the submarine was sunk. they knew it. >> it's incredible some years later. thank you both very much. we are going to stay on the story because we have these images from satellite showing us these notes and maybe debris from the plane. >> you see these here and hundreds of satellites orbiting the earth as i speak. why can't we use them to zero in on the items to determine if they are actually from this plane. we will explore that next. benefiber is clear,

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. >> you only get a 45 degree angle. you get the wave action and a lot of things have gone wrong here. we have a couple of satellites. one that stays in the same spot and takes a picture, picture, picture and rotates around the earth. as the earth goes around and stays in the same place. others do this. they go to the poles and goes around and around.

the earth rotates underneath it. they are down every 90 minutes depending on the flight plan. 520 miles of space. the ones that we get the weather data from, most of it, they are 22,000 miles in space. they stay over the same spot. 42 times away. think about the zoom lens you have to get to zoom down to something. or two times mother away. there is a lot of stuff and there is a lot of satellite activity, but what we didn't have is many of the satellites were flying over and going up and going down. there were clouds there. they can't see the debris. that's the issue we had. this is the next 90 minutes and

the next 90 minutes. you only get one or two a day from any one spot. if we had a great day yesterday, it wouldn't have been better. the skies are crystal clear and very dry. not a lot of humidity and i believe we will have great pictures coming up in a day or two as they analyze the fly overs from yesterday. >> good deal. thank you. we keep talking about the area. the reasoning behind it and why this thing moved. it shows the plane was flying faster than previously thought. did the pilots do this on purpose? what could have happened in the cockpit? we will demonstrate possibilities inside the flight simulator. also ahead the family members are makinging a statement and getting up and leaving. frustrated with the malaysian officials at the briefing scheduled today. cnn's chief correspondent will join me on the physical and

mental toll this is taking on their loved ones and how they handled this waiting game. we will talk about that, next.

. >> for days and days now, the families of the performs on board have been waiting and listening to malaysian authorities and many complain they are being lied to. they stood up united and walking out of this briefing, hearing the search area shifted again. they say malaysian authorities are hiding the truth. malaysian officials maintain their loved ones, all lives are lot of. that was the phrase. they said they will not accept

that until the wreckage is found. sanjay, we have seen them angry and weeping and wheeled out on stretchers. almost throwing punches at the media and officials on the briefing rooms. all of this, what is the physical toll this is taking on them? >> let me say something about what they are talking about. the idea that the families are banded together, this is a tragic situation and they can provide a sense of comfort for each other. they are somehow more suspicious. taking a punch at a camera man, the person has nothing to do with this issue and there is so much anger and anyone who is not inside the band of family members. you are not eating or sleeping

well and things like the cortisol levels. normal low they go up and down and they never come down as well. your heart rate and blood pressure and harmless threats you see as more potentially dangerous. you are living on edge and it's a hard thing to sustain. >> that is cliche, hope for the best, prepare for the worst. what would you or what would experts say in this situation? >> two things. may be obvious. i think hope and optimism at least in this period of time there were benefits. people are more optimistic tend to cope and deal with grief better. here is the flip side. many psychologists refer to this as a heroic period. you think about from the family's perspective, the whole world is looking for their loved

ones. that can buoy you up and raise your emotions and make you feel better about things. you are not as isolated. on the other hand, when the here oikic period ends and the media attention fades and the searches slow down and get called off and there is a greater fall. the initial loss and you come down from this. >> i cannot begin to imagine. >> heart breaking. >> absolutely. thank you so much. >> you got it. >> the search area for the missing plane as we have been reporting shifting 680 miles northeast. much different weather and conditions and ocean currents here. we will give you this virtual view of the search location and explain exactly how this changes the search itself. [ sniffles, coughs ] shhhh! i have a cold with this annoying runny nose. [ sniffles ] i better take something. [ male announcer ] dayquil cold and flu doesn't treat all that. it doesn't?

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this is a photo and it was an object spotted by new zealand and another plane to relocate that item. the second plane spotting two blue rectangular objects. another each spotting what could be debris from flight 370 in the waters below. and in less than hours, the sunrises on a new day for searchers. what challenges does this new search area bring no doubt that the latest technology has learned from past successes and past mistakes. joining me now, back in our virtual room with answers here, tom? >> you heard the challenges and getting to the right place. think of all the search areas since this began.

day by day, it changed. this is the right place. big changes to get to the spot and find this stuff to figure out if it's the right stuff. there no guarantees on any of that. this is all the satellite image right down in here. that was 47,000 square miles and we heard a lot of confidence about the area for a while. 700 miles up north of this. it's closer to perth and you cut down the travel time to get there. this is all baseda analysis of data they had and may be getting more. there is every reason to remain at best, cautious in terms of whether or not it makes a difference. here's one of the reasons why. you think about this, brooke, they are trying to search over a huge area compared to what we

saw in the air france plane went down. the air france plane went down and they had debris almost immediately in about a three-mile swath. not hundreds of miles. when they found the wreckage, this is side scan sonar of the wreckage they found in the middle of the atlantic. that area where they found the plane only covered a few football fields. it was a very, very small target. think about the hundreds and thousands of linear miles and more in terms of square miles in the process. you get an idea of how hard it would be to find and particularly when you think about the time that passed and this. we bring in the map and we have been talking about it over and over again. the currents here that collides with the southern ocean are quite dramatic. we move past australia to the area and animate this from the national oceanic and atmospheric administration. look at the turbulence.

me how you find something on the surface of that and you come up with the correct algo rhythm and formula 20 days ago. they come up with something that might work. yes, but it's an immense challenge. that area is the satellite from yesterday. look where they were located. now we are further north and it changes anyway. it is a step today. yes. is it really a step in the right direction? we will not know until we get something in hand to figure out the first step of the mystery being solved. >> so many experts are looking and saying that looked similar to the satellite imagery. tom forman, we will thank you so much for that visual. based upon going back to that.

we concluded this and the earlier part of the flight. they had a desolate flight. rejoining me to discuss the pilot and sea operations specialist tim taylor. gentlemen, i want to begin with you. we were talking with commercial break and the new debris field. you were saying because the question is, we are looking for the actual wreckage and the plane or the black box or anything. any kind of debro to leave them there. you say they should be doing both. >> the clock is ticking on the black box and we have limited time and the assets on location. in which case it's a hydro phone to listen. they should be looking where the math said it went down and start to listen. also for the the debris that will help them narrow down the search more.

maybe they do. >> it's different, but you have to go with the data they have. maybe two search areas. one they burn more and one less. you have to take a shot and this is getting down to the last hours of possibilities for that pinger. if you don't make some assumptions. with different algo rhythms, you have to look at the impact. >> you wanted to make the point and there questions on the crew. you say stop it. >> let's not make it. they are doing the investigation looking at the backgrounds. it's some other issue that might have been affecting the decision making process.

let's not throw it out. conducting the investigation and let it be quiet. let's protect the crew members. they are suffering as much or more. >> we finally heard from the son a couple of days ago. this is enough. he is trying not to read the speculation. let alone the family members of the persons here. thank you both very much and we have talked so much about the plane's speed, we will take you inside this flight simulator to show you what could have happened.

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welcome back. i'm brooke baldwin. we are discussing today all kinds of things to explain they might have run out of fuel because it flew faster than

first thought. if so it would reduce the distance to get south to the indian ocean. here he is with me, richard quest and martin savage with the cockpit simulator. martin, i'm going to you guys first here. me, this is obviously what we don't know. given the data we had today, what could have been happening in the cockpit? >> i'm glad you have richard standing by because we need his brilliance to be shed upon this. >> his brilliance is standing by. >> okay. what we have done is set the aircraft up to fly at typical altitude and speed. right now we are at 35,000 feet and if you look over here, there a lot of ways to determine the speed of an aircraft. it could be a bit confusing.

287 knots or we are going.84% of the speed of sound. this is the ground speed. in other words, how fast we are going, presumably over the ground which is 475 knots or close to 500 miles an hour according to the new data. this is a typical cruise speed. to slow us down slightly and yet extend and reduce the range of the search, we need to know so much more. the altitude and how long they now at the altitude and the head winds, so much more than the speed of the plane and which speed is it? the speed over the ground or in the air. richard, please. >> we don't know. all we know is from the ansa they said the speed on the new

track was 400 knots. that's what they worked out. what's your best guess of what they are talking about? >> richard, at this altitude, we assume it was that 35,000 feed, the normal cruising speed is .84 mach, about 474 knots. true air speed. if they are talking about true air speed, the plane was flying slower than it would normally fly. it they said it sped up or was flying faster -- my guess would be. >> -- >> what they i saying is it was flying faster in the early part of the flight over the part that went from the turn back across malaysia to the strait of

malaka. that's the part they compute was faster. therefore less fuel. we still know that the flight on the southern corridor had to take about 6, 6 1/2 hours. >> can i jump in, following both of you and my question to you, so given this the way you tried to explain, does that change anything about what we might know or not know sfafz what happened to the cockpit? >> not at all. that's the important question. i can make an argument that it mean more mechanical. i can give an argument that it's more nepharious. it is a very dangerous strategy. guys in the cockpit, feel free to agree to disagree. i don't believe moving the search further up to a slower speed indicates one way or the other what might have happened.

>> right. i agree with you. i don't think there is any way we can rebuild this whether it's criminal or accidental. altitude would play in this and yes you will burn a lot more fuel. if you are going higher, you are burning more fuel and going further faster. there is more needed to make this equation that the experts have done to change the area in which they are now focusing the search effort. >> that's the theme here. need more. >> one way for this, it's not funny, but you know the old joke in the car, i'm running out of gas, i better drive fast to get to the gas station. >> that are doesn't work. >> that's what we are talking about. the plane used more gas in the early part of the flight. therefore it went to get to the ver various points, it had to be going slower. we now have a much better idea

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welcome back. i'm brooke baldwin. nearly a week after a mudslide took a gouge out of a mountain side of washington state, the death toll is still rising. they are to give the most

accurate count yet at a news conference 9:00 eastern tonight. a video here from king county air support shows the area before and then the after the oso, washington, landslide. thus far, here's the number that we have. 17 -- at least 17 confirmed dead and seven unidentified bodies have been found and not recovered and dozens are still unaccounted for. the rain continues to work against these efforts to find survivors but officials say some progress was made today. >> as the water is starting to recede in the flooded areas now so we're now able to get into new areas that we have not been able to search and to get out into. >> again, watch for the news conference tonight at 9:00 eastern time on cnn. russia has moved enough

troops into ukraine to invade. digging in on their side of the border as the russian buildup has climbed to as much as 40,000 troops, this is according to the united states. from where they are now, the russians could charge west towards moldova and attempt to seize the capital there. in an interview today, president obama said the russian's plans are a mystery but their actions suspicious. >> you've seen troops massing along the borders but these are not what russia would normally be doing and, you know, it may simply be an effort to intimidate u ukraine or it may

be that they've got additional plans. >> russia's defense minister reportedly told the pentagon there will not be any invasion but it's unclear whether he gets a vote when vladimir putin calls the shots. coming up, we profile a cnn hero who is helping mothers with cancer. we'll share this remarkable woman's story, next.

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♪ ♪ ♪ told ya you could do it. (dad vo) i want her to be safe. so, i taught her what i could and got her a subaru. (girl) piece of cake. ♪ (announcer) love. it's what makes a subaru, a subaru. in canada, cancer is the leading cause of death for women. if you're a mother with young

children, a cancer diagnosis often raises fears that have more to do with your own kids than your own life. this week's cnn hero is there to offer peace of mind. >> it's 7:00. let's go. brush your teeth. >> i'm a pretty independent, strong woman. >> it's very cold outside. >> but being a single mom is a full-time job. >> good morning. >> you're tired. when i was diagnosed with cancer, the first thing that came to my mind was my son, thinking about one day he gets up and i'm not there. it's the saddest thing for me. >> mothers who are diagnosed with cabsncer are caregivers wh suddenly find themselves in need of care. in 2008, i was diagnosed with breast cancer. as i was undergoing treatment, i saw so many mothers with really

young children sitting on their laps. these mothers couldn't dream of having nannies and yet they were the ones who needed them the most. we provide free relief child care to moms undergoing cancer treatment. some of our volunteers are even cancer survivors themselves. how do you rest with a 2-year-old running around? >> our program allows mothers the freedom to take a rest because that's what they need the most to get better. >> what audrey has done for moms with cancer is to give us hope. >> how much do you love mother? >> 100. >> i'm going to win this battle. >> what we do won't take away their illness but it will certainly make their journey a lot easier. >> how awesome is that? each and every week we'll be honoring a cnn hero, an ordinary

person who lives this extraordinary life. if you want to nominate someone, you can. go to cnnheroes.com and nominate someone you know. i'm brooke baldwin. make sure you tune in for developments on the mystery plane. jim sciutto is sitting in for jake tapper. "the lead" starts now. >> after 22 days, we finally found the breakthrough that we were waiting for. i'm jim sciutto and this is "the lead." the world lead. could this be a piece of the missing plane? after turning up nothing for a week, the search moves 700 miles northeast. and just like that, possible debris spotted. cnn was on one of the search planes when it made what could be a big discovery. and persisting questions about the pilot's state of mind when flight 370 veered off course. what kind of psychological screening do they have to go through and how does it compare to the tests that american pilots