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again soon. thank you. and god bless america. and while i'm at it, god bless great britain too. good night. this is a cnn special report. the mystery of flight 370. i'm don lemon. good evening. we do have breaking news tonight. any moment, ships in the search zone could be picking up some of those floating objects, objects that could give us at least one answer to the mystery that's become a worldwide obsession. we'll tell you what that news is in a moment, as soon as we get it. but even if this turns out to be debris from flight 370, there are still more questions than answers. you have been tweeting us by the thousands and we have top aviation and security experts standing by to answer your questions throughout this hour. like this one from randy. under ideal conditions, how long would it take to completely search the new area? this is from john. an hour or so into the flight, there's a problem. the pilot turns around. why not return to a base an hour away?
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cnn's reporters are covering this story around the world tonight. richard quest has been on top of this story from the very beginning and is back with me in studio. i'm going to begin with ateaka shubert. crews spotted objects that might be debris. are they getting any closer to finding them? >> reporter: we really don't know is the answer to that. five objects found, one was a fishing buoy. but the new zealand p-3 orion got a look at an object they say is promising. but that doesn't mean anything until you can get a ship right there to take a look at the object and verify whether or not it's debris from the plane, that's what they're hoping to do today. at this point, however, there's
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only one ship in the search area, a chinese ship. the other five are expected to get there late this afternoon or early evening. so it could be a while before we still get any confirmation. >> i would imagine they are used to dealing with these things, they do have to handle this carefully. but how challenging will it be to pick these pieces up? >> reporter: well, the good news is that they're no longer in that southern search area, which had much rougher weather. now they're a little further north, so the weather is a little calmer. it's also closer, so the search flights take less time to get there. having said that, the weather is expected to deteriorate later today that's why it's important to get an earlier start. we've seen one flight take off. the sooner they can get there, the better chance they have. >> atika, thank you very much. i want to check in with sarah in
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kuala lumpur. the malaysian government was very confident in the analysis done by satellite companies. investigators were searching in a different spot all week. are they just as confident now? >> reporter: look, it's hard to know what to believe, right? this is the difficulty. the families have been going through this, first they're confident, then the search shifts. this wasn't just because of the ocean currents. this was because they looked at other data and decided if they did a different calculation, that it couldn't have gone as far, it would have burned more fuel. so they ended up in a different spot in looking at their data. this is a real difficulty. this is not necessarily simple math, right? they're looking another a lot of different things to try to figure out exactly where these debris are. the ocean is also filled with a lot of trash, so it's hard to tell one thing from another. looking at the satellite image
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is one thing, finding it another thing. you know they've been searching for all this time since march 8, they've been looking for any sign of this plane. it's very, very frustrating. i'm sure to the investigators and more so to the families. >> sara, thank you very much. let's check in with cnn's chad myers in the cnn weather center down in atlanta. chad, we heard a lot about the bad weather in the search zone earlier. this week the search was called off more than once due to weather. are conditions better where they're stare earching now? >> we're out of the roaring 40s, we're up in the 30s. but still there will be storms that roll through there, just like they roll into california or oregon or washington. same kind of idea. there's a couple good positives and a couple negatives. the new search area is right on what's called broken ridge. to the north, it's lighter, about 6,000 feet. to the south, almost 12,000 feet, and in this rip zone, in that tear zone through there,
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that fracture, we can get down to 20,000 feet, especially if you go toward australia in that direction. this is rugged down here. if you get a plane or a black box down in this area, it's going to be hard to find, hard to get. something else that's on the good side. there's not as much of a current here. right here, this is the search area, and the currents are to the north and to the south. right here in the middle, there are some eddys. this goes around and around. that's another problem, because all that garbage that's been in there for hundreds of years probably is still going around. much of it breaks up and sinks, but there's still some stuck in there. >> chad, thank you very much. appreciate that. joining me now is geoffrey thomas, editor and chief for airlineratings.com.
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david joins us via skype. and richard quest is here. david, the change in the search area is about 680 miles northeast of where we were, and that's like moving the search area from atlanta to philadelphia. it appears we're back to square one. are we? >> well, i'm sad to say that. i think that's the obvious conclusion. this is a very big change. such that it's almost impossible now to believe that -- to connect this new search box with the earlier sightings, the satellite images people were looking at, and some of the sightings that the airplanes are doing. in one sense, all the oceanographic modeling that was done on the debris supposedly drifting south there and bringing it back to an origin point is probably not valid anymore. >> geoffrey, in your estimation,
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given this new information, how close are searchers to finding debris that they can confirm is from this plane? >> i spoke to some officials overnight, don, and there seems to be a greater level of confidence about the new coordinates that are being worked -- that have been worked through, using more data out of southeast asia. they weren't specific about what data they now had. but they seem to be a high level of confidence. we do know they took photographs yesterday. these debris items were spotted in total by about five aircraft. the photos are being analyzed overnight in australia, and we are told that possibly later on today we might have a press conference and some of the detail may be released. so there seems to be a growing confidence that we might be more on the track than we were.
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>> geoffrey and david, we have gotten questions from viewers asking about the new calculations and how they were made. rebecca asks, how do the experts arrive at the new calculations? first to geoffrey, then to david? >> as explained, and it's a very good question, but there's all sorts of data coming through. there's recalculations being done. there's assumptions that were made that have been rethought as new data comes through, possibly from indonesian military radar. we don't know. i have asked the question. there's just a no comment. so i think some countries are giving up more data now, and we are getting recalculations and new assumptions are being made. >> david? >> that's essentially what i've heard, as well.
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i'm not an aviation specialist, i don't think i should comment on that. but maybe what i can comment on is the earlier question that somebody put to you, how long would it take to search an area this large? just quickly, if you're talking about an area that's 100 by 100 nautical miles, that's 10,000 square nautical miles. one sonar can search about 15 square nautical miles a day. that would give you over 160 days of active searching. that's over two years to search that one area. >> let me ask you this question then. do you think that we're a bit too anxious thinking we're going to find the debris in the hours and days, maybe the weeks after
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this possible crash into the ocean? >> yeah, this is going to take a very long time, because i think it would be a miracle at this point for them to get in the location close enough to be able to hear the pingers on the black boxes. that opportunity i believe has been lost. so the next thing is a subsea search using sonars, maybe a combination of towed sonars and once deployed in autonomous weeks. but looking at months and months at work, probably multiple ships searching the area. at the end of the day now, with all that -- it's going to be very difficult to use any wreckage that they find now, and track that back using the leeway drift to an origin point. we're talking 22 days after the crash. so there's going to be huge
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errors associated with that, and this new track is an estimate. >> i want you to weigh in on this, because this is important information. he's saying we're too anxious about this. >> we're getting ahead of ourselves, because until we know where the debris is, it's best not to concern ourselves too much with what might happen next. >> but you understand what he's saying. >> of course i do. >> we're reporting this every single night, the government is coming out, and he's saying we're getting ahead of ourselves. he's saying everybody, settle down, this is going to take a while. >> they've got to find the debris. they've been honest about this. geoffrey, you agree with me, basically, time and again they said it's the best we've got. it's not perfect but the best we've got.
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what i want to know, do we have any news, geoffrey, do we have any news on what the altitude was when the plane walls between the south china sea and the strait of malacca, nothing has been confirmed on this issue, and what altitude it then was when it went into -- when it started its journey down to the southern indian ocean. >> there's conflicting information, richard. one source says that malaysian radar tracked it at 12,000. we've even heard 5,000. it is unfortunately still confused. we haven't actually had the malaysian investigation team say exactly what the altitude was that it was tracked at. but there has been reported quite widely it got down to
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12,000 feet. >> thank you. but i think that you're missing what he's saying here. i think everybody is getting ahead of themselves. he says when something like this happens, regardless of the altitude, the northern trek or the southern trek, he's saying in order to figure this out, it is going to take some time. and he says at least 680 days -- for 447 -- >> you're the one choosing to put the cart before the horse. what i'm saying is, he's right in terms of finding the black boxes. but you don't stand a chance of finding the black boxes until you find the debris. >> i'm just saying to stop thinking that you're going to find it every single moment or every single day. he's saying in order to find the debris, it's going to take time. that's all i'm saying. do you understand what he's saying? >> let's hear what he's saying.
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>> what the debris will help with, will obviously confirm -- certainly for the families that this plane has crashed. it will allow the investigators to look at the wreckage and draw some preliminary conclusions if they get pieces that show certain types of impact. we saw that with our friends. but what i'm saying is that this debris, 21 days removed from the crash site, removed from the origin, is no longer going to be a very good clue as to where that crash took place. that leaves us with just this estimated track and a very, very proximate search box based on drift. that means a large search box. when you're putting all these different clues together, over a period of time, like in any mystery, what you want them to do is to converge. get closer so your area is getting smaller. what we seen yesterday is it converged. we can no longer put together
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the clues we have previously with this new information. it means more error, a larger area to search, more time and we are in for the long haul here. >> thank you. we've got to get to a break. thank you, david. geoffrey thomas, richard quest, stay with me. when we come back, we'll talk more about the search going on right now off the coast of australia. could this be the break everyone has been waiting for? [ female announcer ] hands were made for playing. ♪ legs, for crossing. ♪ feet...splashing. better things than the joint pain and swelling of moderate to severe rheumatoid arthritis. if you're trying to manage your ra, now may be the time to ask about xeljanz. xeljanz (tofacitinib) is a small pill, not an injection or infusion, for adults with moderate to severe ra for whom methotrexate did not work well. xeljanz is an ra medicine that can enter cells and disrupt jak pathways,
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department of transportation. she now represents victims of negligence by transportation companies. also with me, jeff wise, author of "the science of your mind in danger." retired pilot jim tillman, and lieutenant colonel michael kay, and geoffrey thomas. i want to get your reaction to what richard and i were having quite a discussion about earlier, to what david said. first with you, mary schiavo. he's saying listen, this could take two years if not more and he believes we've lost the opportunity to hear the pinging on the black boxes. >> well, we may have. but on his idea that it could take two years or more, actually the average aviation investigation takes about 3.5 years, so he was being conservative. >> michael kay?
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>> yeah, i think one of the big problems we've got here is that the accuracy of the search operation is predominantly based on assumptions. we know from the data that we've got the distance and the arc. what we don't know is how far down the arc south that it's gone. and what is fueling this information is assumptions based information. to it's distance, it's track, it's also altitude, and it's speed. but they're all based on conflicting evidence as what we've seen. we don't know what happened after that last transponder ping. we don't know what track it took. we don't know how high it was. we don't know what speed it was. so what they're having to do is they're having to work backwards. so anyone who says what we've been doing in the far south is irrelevant, i don't agree with it. even throw the process of elimination, it's allowed us to work backwards.
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>> so jim tillman, let's talk more about viewer questions. this one is from kenneth, he says how could the plane be going faster yet the distance is not as far than first thought since we're told it was flying for seven hours? >> because there's a difference in the fuel burn. the fuel burn is what's determining how far we assume it has flown before it all ended. i think it's important for us to realize that those who want to use charts to determine this should be reminded that the charts are based on fuel at the tank at the end. and the event here may very well be dry tanks. that may be a different distance. >> clyde, what new questions does this new information about the plane speed bring into the equation? does this mean that flight 370 was flying at a higher altitude, as well? >> i think the most fascinating thing to me about this, i
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thought we were lacking any really stable and salient information. it's very hard to come by. then it struck me, it was staring me in the face all the time. we know one really interesting thing, which that the engines continued to run perfectly throughout the whole period of this flight. that meant that the fuel was going from the three tanks, one in the center, two in the wings, to the engines as they should have done and fuel was being transferred. everything was working by the book for the duration of that flight, or from the time it made the course change and gone out to the malacca straits and headed to the southern indian ocean. what fascinates me about that is, we know that was working well. what wasn't working? can we find a meeting point between the things that were working? the fact that those earnings were working, they were
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providing power to the whole airplane. all that was working, so what you have a picture of here is a plane which is flying as it was designed to fly perfectly, but apparently no human intention. so we have to work our way back from that to what might not have been working to cause the things that give us pause, the lack of a call from the plane, the ending of the acars signal and the transponder. where is the division between those things? >> i've got to get the other panelists in here. i want to get jeff wise's reaction. you write about this, you've been studying this. you sort of disagreed with the data. but what do you make with
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possibly we've lost time, lost the pingers and that we're getting way ahead of ourselves by thinking we're going to find debris in the next minute or hours or even days? >> i feel like i must address some inaccuracies -- >> can you address that first then address the inaccuracy? >> we have a huge task ahead of us. and yes, we have no idea what idea what part of the seabed it's on. the potential search area is thousands of miles long. it's a vast area. so we've got a -- we talk about looking for the needle in the haystack. we have no idea where the haystack is. so it's looking very -- like a huge and daunting task. >> we'll get to discuss the
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as we speak, ships and planes are scouring the new search area off the coast of australia for any sign of debris from flight 370. but what happens if and when they find some? cnn's alexandra field has a look at what happens next. >> reporter: picking out the pieces, putting them together. it's been done by crash investigators before. the question is, in the mystery
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of malaysia airlines flight 370, will it be done again? >> got to get salvage vessels out into the area that have the kind of grappling equipment that can lift potentially large pieces of airplane, not only off the surface of the water, but if need be, drop down cables long enough to reach the wreckage in 12,000 feet. >> reporter: july 1996, twa flight 800 crashes just eight miles off the coast of long island, new york, in waters only 200 feet deep. investigators spot pieces of the boeing 747 right away, but it still takes three days to find the bulk of the wreckage. after finding 97% of the plane, crash experts reassemble it in a long island hanger. >> you can literally start placing pieces of the aircraft back together again, so you can see how they relate to each other, how the impact was related.
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>> reporter: is that kind of reconstruction still necessary? >> well, there's obviously debate about that. >> reporter: that's because data recorders like the one on flight 370 are now more sophisticated. the older model aboard twa flight 800 would record only 18 indicators. investigators needed to reassemble the debris because the data only gave a partial view of what happened on board at the time of the crash. >> essentially, speed, altitude, heading. so it was not that helpful in the -- determining what the probable cause was. >> reporter: the missing data from flight 370 captures more information, but will it be enough? >> if there's something conclusive that says the engines quit or there was a fire extinguisher that went off, it will narrow the accident down to where they may not have to reconstruct the entire aircraft. >> reporter: instead,
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investigators could choose to recover a few key pieces and hope they reveal the rest of the puzzle. alexandra field, cnn. >> thank you very much. our breaking news tonight, we're awaiting word from the search zone as ships rush to pick up those unidentified objects. and we'll give you that news the moment we get it here on cnn. so back now with me, my team of experts. first, jeff wise. continuing your thought, what inaccuracies do you want to address? >> the main thing is the press release from the australians was confusing, it's been misreported. the part about going fast refers only to the initial part of the flight. the plane burned so much fuel early on, it had to be going slower to save fuel. moving to the north, you're assuming the plane was flying slower, not faster. >> this is a very good point that he makes. clearly, it's like the car journey where you drive faster
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or you are stuck in traffic in the beginning, you burn more gas, you don't have more for the rest of the journey. >> thank you both for addressing that. now to michael kay, this is from karen. is there any type of netting that ships can use to drag to find parts of the plane, michael? >> i think that's entirely dependent on the depths of the ocean that you're trying to troll. i also think it's agadependent where we think the debris will be. so is it going to have floated to the bottom, is it going to be resting on the ocean floor or on top of the surface or just under the surface in a neutral buoyancy type affair? it's a great question. we'll need to find the debris and then the rest of the search will form around the way that the debris field has manifested itself on the ocean top. >> geoffrey thomas, might this
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rush that everyone seems to be having to find the debris or to find the black boxes, might it be putting too much pressure on the malaysian government, the malaysian airlines and on searchers and investigators who are trying to figure out what's going on? >> look, it could possibly be, particularly up in malaysia. but i think after talking to australian officials over the last couple of days, they're being very methodical about this. they're being very considered about this, and they've had a lot of experience searching for aircraft and searching for lone yachtsman. we know this area probably better than anybody does. so from an australian perspective, they're not being rushed at all. obviously they know the urgency of finding the black box, and that certainly is urgent. but as far as making statements of concern, they are just sticking to the facts and
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working through the intelligence they get in a very slow, methodical process. >> geoffrey thomas, i want to read two questions to you. basically statements and get your response. the first is from suzy. she says i think they're still chasing trash in the search area. patrick says, our ocean is so full of trash, we can't distinguish a 777 from garbage. you want to respond to those two statements? >> there's another dynamic to this, as well. one of the things that's been of great concern in the search head quarters is some of these images we've been shown from the french, the chinese and the thais, they're staying -- they're not showing the debris that they claim. they are very skeptical now about the intelligence, the analysis of this debris. to that's one question we have to look at as far as how good are these satellite images in
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the first place? the fer thing is, yes, it's a very sad indime of us, that there is so much debris in the ocean. and it's a very sobering thing and something that really globally we have to look at. >> geoffrey thomas, thank you. everyone else, stay with me. coming up, the families of flight 370. as we all wait for word from the search zone, just imagine what they must be feeling. when we come back, i'll talk to a man whose fife was a passenger on that missing plane. across america, people like basketball hall of famer dominique wilkins, are taking charge of their type 2 diabetes with non-insulin victoza. for a while, i took a pill to lower my blood sugar, but it didn't get me to my goal. so i asked my doctor about victoza. he said victoza works differently than pills, and comes in a pen.
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as we await word from the search zone tonight, the anguish for the families of flight 370 must be almost more than they can bear. joining us now is a man whose wife boarded the plan three weeks ago and that was the last time he heard from her. thank you for joining us. how are you doing tonight? >> it's morning for me, saturday. i have to prepare for the day, and what shall i say? i'm just looking forward to the evening because that's when i
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meet my daughter. that's what the day looks like for me, and i don't have anything else at this point in time. >> you mentioned your daughter. you and your wife have a daughter. as i understand, she's contemplating whether or not she should return to college. >> actually, this week she has returned to college because we thought it was best she gets back to her studies and work. just being at home in the midst of all the uncertainty and all the heightened emotions was not very helpful to her or anybody else. so we thought it was better that she gets back to her routines, her studies, however difficult it might be. so she is back in college. i can see that she's settling in quite well. she has her moments, just as all of us do when we can't but help
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but reflect. but that's the way it is. >> i spoke earlier this week with your brother-in-law, and i know this anguish for your whole family is just -- we can't even imagine it. but how is your wife's mother doing? >> she is a very strong woman. she's about 85 or 86, and she's a very strong woman, has a very deep faith that her daughter will return. even if she sometimes succumbs to momentary doubt, she springs back with renewed force, renewed vigor. she's not seen or spoken her daughter the last three weeks, and they were on the phone every night at 9:00 p.m. so she misses that.
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perhaps the prospect of never seeing her again crosses her mind once in a while, but she's a lady of firm faith. she believes in miracles. she believes god is on our side and good things will happen. >> as i read about you, it's hard to believe that you're very measured, you can come on television and be so measured. you see how the families have been reacting, you know, and rightly so. people react the way they're going to react. you have chosen not to go to the sta search area or where the plane left because you think it's better to be at home with your family and have as much normalcy as possible? >> it's absolutely right. it's pointless to be in perth. i'm not an investigator. i'm not going to be on the plane or the ship. being in either of those places means i'm holed up in a hotel, and i get the same kind of
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information that is available to the general public. there's nothing different that i hear. the story is just the same as day one, the plane is missing, we don't know where it is, we don't know why it disappeared and we're still searching. so that essential story line hasn't changed. so i'm happier being with my friends and family and hopefully i'll start looking at some work as well just to get my mind out of the state of listlessness that i've experienced lately. i think it makes better sense to be at home. so that's what i have chosen to do. i agree that it's not about histrion histrionics. personally, i think we would like to know the truth, and i believe that the truth can free us, it can make us feel a lot more safe and secure. it can also help us deal with
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her absence a little better. >> thank you. our hearts go out to you and your family. we appreciate you sharing your story. >> thank you. >> my experts are back with me now. joining me now is a grief and resilience expert, author of "the real rules of life." very strong man. >> amazing. don, i'm sitting here watching him and i'm remembering back 18 years ago yesterday that there was a bus didn't in india where he is from, and it was my daughter and three other young women, college students, who were in that accident and who died in that accident. the moments of getting the first phone call that they had been in that accident, and then the torturous moments after, nothing
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compared to what he and his daughter have gone through. but we're in a state of suspended agony, and it's almost unimaginable if you haven't gone through something like that. most of us have had an experience where our child isn't home where they're supposed to be, somebody is missing for an hour or a couple of hours and we feel a sense of terror. these families are emotionally exhausted. they've been going through this now for almost three weeks. >> can we talk about the grief process? you heard what he said, he said we need to find something so that we can have some sort of finality and closure. for them, it's just sort of hanging out there, hope mixed with the worst possibility. >> with the worst despair. when we're going through this, we're in a state of relative shock. but the shock begins to wear off and the reality begins to set
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in, that life as we've known it as ended. that we are starting -- we're in the ashes of plan a and looking at the possibilities for reconstructing a life of plan b. just as we're trying to reconstruct the elements of what happened, and the whole world is trying to do that, and to make sense of what might not ever make sense, the families are doing the same thing. emotionally, spiritually, psychologically, trying to somehow step into plan b, standing in the ashes of plan a, trying to look at how am i possibly going to go on? what has happened here? am i preparing myself emotionally for the worst? could there possibly be a miracle? how? and suspended in this agony, that's what they're going through. >> everybody stick around. we'll bring you any news from that search zone the moment we get it here.
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our breaking news tonight, ships could be picking up objects from the search zone at any moment. but even if it turns out we finally have debris from the plane, there's still so many questions about flight 370. we're answering them tonight. when last i saw you, you each had a specific question that you wanted answered. i want to see if we have gotten any closer to what you wanted answered. so let's first ask, jeff wise, your question was, was there the rest of the data -- where is the rest of the data, are you surprised more people aren't asking to review the data? >> that data has not been released. however, the change of the search area does seem to have been based on reanalysis of this data. so in a sense, we have learned something more about it. >> jim tillman, you wanted a precise timeline. give us a quick rundown.
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>> we don't have one available that you can count on. >> richard, you have a timeline, right? >> we have done a timeline from the information that has been released by the malaysians at their news briefings, which is the closest anybody has got. >> but you still don't feel like your question has been fulfilled right, jim? >> no, i don't. let me offer one quick thing about the pilots. remember, pilots have to -- captains have to get a physical every six months. and even first officers have to go if they're international every six months. so it's the most regulated profession on the planet. >> jim, thank you. mary schiavo, your question was intriguing about the plane's maintenance. we know the plane was in for maintenance for ten days, then scheduled to go back. why would it have to go back, right? >> it has to go into maintenance periodically any way.
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there are various checks, and some of them are overnight. but there was a line they said they had accomplished a lot of the various directives and maintenance ordered, et cetera, and they had more to do. there was just one line, and i was intrigued by that, but i haven't been able to find anymore about that. but undoubtedly the investigation will encompass that and hopefully they'll have information about that soon. because that's very typical. it's something you would cover in an investigation. >> and we've answered -- jim, i was going to ask you about the psychological evaluations. you said every six months. this is to michael kay. is there an explanation for that traps ponder being turned off other than by act of the pilot? >> can i say, i've got huge admiration for the way he conducted that interview this evening. it is humbling. i thought the way he conducted himself was humbling. the transponder, for me, there
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was some unanswered questions. it works off secondary surveillance radar, which works out to around 200 miles off the coast. i would like to see more information on the distance from the coast that that transponder was turned off. there were two runs it was turned off. the first it was damaged by something, ie an explosion, and the second it was turned off. if it's outside of 200 miles -- i don't think we're addressing that. >> with the change in the search area today, do you think we're any closer here? >> yes, i do. i would like to ask richard a question, which is the investigation is an unusual one because it demands a new skill set to any other normal skill investigation. it's not clear where the various cells of this investigation are taking place, in australia,
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malaysia, where are they? >> all the working groups are in malaysia, because that is the state of registry, and the state of operator. and therefore, the investigation falls to malaysia. the australians have been given primacy for the search and rescue and recovery in the -- off perth. and australia today sent a diplomatic note to all nations involved, reminding them to make sure any debris they recover goes to western australia. >> we've got to get to a break. stick with me, everyone. we have time for one more question and the moment that we have the news that they've reached something in that search zone, we're going to bring it to you. ♪
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breaking news for you right now. australia's prime minister speaking, saying today is a good weather today but ships have not recovered any debris, and he vows that the search will go on without counting the cost. so my experts are back with me now. ken, i want to read this one. i don't understand, we can find planets that are not in our solar system but can't find a plane in our ocean. i think that's what most people are thinking, especially the families. people can't fathom this. >> we want to be able to make
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sense of things, but sometimes we're standing at a moment of helpless and sorrow. there comes a point where we realize it's in bigger hands. >> that's going to have to be it. thank you very much. make sure you have a weekend. i'll see you back here saturday and sunday night and monday night, as well at 10:00 p.m. for our special report. stay with us all weekend for the latest on the search. "ac 360" starts right now. coast of the united states, 11:00 a.m. on australia's west coast. ships are zeroing in on the new area mapped out just 24 hours ago. objects were spotted by five aircraft earlier todd. it is potentially the most promising lead in three weeks since the boeing
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