sympathies to the families of those missing and dead. thank you again. >> thanks to the nation. we appreciate it. >> thank you. and thanks for watching "state of the union." i'm candy crowley in washington. fredricka whitfield picks up our coverage right now from atlanta. i'm fredricka whitfield. the search for malaysia airlines flight 370 is our top news item of the day. there are several significant developments over the last few hours. here's what we know right now. four orange objects, about six feet long, have been spotted today in the southern indian ocean. australian officials who were leading the search call it the most promising lead so far. ships are on the way to the area to investigate. and officials say several other objects picked up by ships yesterday turned out to be fishing equipment and other

trash. there is probably only about a week left of battery left on that flight recorder. and because of that critical deadline an australian ship carrying a u.s. pinger locator and undersea search equipment leaves for the search zone shortly and is expected to arrive there on thursday. and back in malaysia, frustration is growing. a group of chinese families flew to malaysia to hold this news conference. they're demanding officials provide evidence on the fate of their loved ones and apologize for releasing what they call confusing information. malaysia's prime minister released a statement today saying in part as we enter the third week in the search for mh-370, be assured that the malaysian government is fully committed to the search operation and we will not stop until the plane is found. sermers in a chinese plane spotted a suspicious object

saturday, but it tushed out to be a dead sequelly fish. our will ripley is in perth, australia, and that's where the search is being coordinated. will, why do search teams believe the four new objects spotted might be promising leads? >> reporter: you know, fred, we're getting a lesson in the trash, all of the trash, and all of the objects that are floating in the indian ocean, and so this is a promising lead because so far the other leads haven't really panned out. anything that's been retrieved and looked at in one of these ships has turned out to be not connected to flight 370, but these planes are going out. they're spending sometimes as long as ten hours a day flying over this area, looking for any item that stands out. there's a lot of debris, a lot of objects floating around in the ocean. but if something looks different, if it looks like there could possibly be a link to this missing airliner, they mark the location, they take images, take photos if they can, they study those, then they report the location to the eight ships that are now on standby in this area so they can try to

get, there try to relocate the item, get it on board and take a look at it. it sounds simple, but it's not as easy as you might think because of the way the ocean currents are moving and the way the weather can be very unpredictable and change in an incident. sometimes it might be somewhere one day but by the time a ship can get there hours or days later it's did i feel to find. obviously a very frustrating search. one of the australian crew member who is spotted these four objects, these four orange objects about six feet across, he talks about it. >> an area within approximately 500 nautical miles which included at least four orange colored objects, [ inaudible ]. i must stress we can't confirm the origin of these objects from our crew and our perspective, this was the most visibility we've had of any objects in the water and gave us the the most promising leads. >> reporter: one remarkable thing about these crews is their

optimism. they go out day after day. they look for these things, and even if the lead doesn't pan out, they continue to search and they continue to be optimistic. some of them have an expression no intel is good intel. if you didn't find something today, that's good because you can mark that area off your list and look again tomorrow. that really is the attitude these crews will have to hold on to, fred, as this search continues. now entering its fourth week. >> all right. will, thank you so much. appreciate that. let's talk more about this with this group of panelists that we've put together here with me right here in the studio, captain kit darby, retired yu united airlines pilot, and in washington i'm joined by cnn's law enforcement analyst tom fuentes. all right, gentlemen. so we're talking about four new objects that were spotted today, again, no confirmation. australian officials believe this might be promising. captain, what do you think? is it the case that everything is potentially promising? >> i've done a little over-water

snvls my military career. it's a daunting task. i'm not even sure we near the right area. there's many factors that could cause this airplane to come up short. as we've seen it's moved almost 700 miles back -- >> why do you have doubt about this new area? >> well, the new area is clo close -- lots of things could make it go shorter. it

i was a big advocate. no doubt about that. i had personally not seen any information that would lead me to think otherwise. there's been some new

information, there was some difficulty here, the pilot was going through a divorce, he was -- his political leader, which is, you know, a very important person in his life, was recently convicted, perhaps even the same day as this crash. so, again, i haven't been able to verify any of those facts but there's beginning to be some interest in knowing more about him and it's odd that we're three weeks into this and just learning some of these facts, if they are facts. i'm not able to verify them at this point. but certainly the pilots have to be examined. i'm a pilot advocate but at the same time they were the last ones known to be in control that puts them on top of the list of potential people to do nefarious acts. >> i want to talk more about these potential scenarios coming up. kit darby, tom fuentes, thanks so much. we'll return to this conversation. we are entering the fourth week of the search for any evidence as it pertains to flight 370. meantime, people in california are still trying to get back to some kind of normalcy after friday's big earthquake.

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it's hard for me to see a malaysian airline flying from malaysia or china almost all of the passengers foreigners, not domestic u.s. citizens, hard for me to see how there's any real likelihood, absent finding the plane, that this place could ever end up in u.s. courts.

>> and let's say they go a couple of years or whatever and they do the payouts. and then we find the data boxes and there is something wrong with the engine or something that can be traced to boeing. then could one sue again? >> sure, if the statute of limitations hasn't run and if you find the plane and if you -- in finding the plane you can discover or investigate a mechanical failure. i mean there are all of these unknown scenarios. >> so bottom line, fred, you know, not knowing what happened to the plane, there is some compensation for the families, not much in u.s. terms, but in what is agreed to by an international treaty organization. so we have to see how this plays out and whether, in fact, they do find these data boxes. >> yeah. interest potential scenarios there. you also had with you senator dianne feinstein and you asked her about lingering questions

over any terrorist involvement with that flight, and what did she say? >> basically what we have been hearing from intelligence communities for the past three weeks. here she is. >> well, so far there's been none, an there's speculation but there's nothing. and i think the commander really summed it up. it's a very, very hard situation because they really don't have what they need to carefully calculate a reasonable area where the ship may be. >> bottom line, fred, all of those in the intelligence community don't want to shut the door on us and say, hey, you know, this absolutely was not the result of terrorism. but they certainly don't think so at this point. >> all right, candy crowley, thank you so much, host of "state of the union." appreciate it. grief, frustration, and anger, all of that. you can see it and you can feel it, that raw kind of emotion today during a news conference held by the families of the 239

people on board that flight 370. hear their new demands in a live report coming from kuala lumpur. then two big earthquakes right here in the u.s. in just one weekend. now people in california are wondering could there be more on the way?

in southern california, at least 100 aftershocks have been reported after the earthquake. take a look at this map from the "l.a. times" that shows the 5.1

quake and two smaller ones. the biggest quake rattled a few buildings but no one was seriously hurt. still, building inspectors say some homes are too unstable for people to actually go back. so is this a sign of something bigger to come? that's always the fear, especially in southern california. nick valencia joining me now. home territory for you. >> my hometown. >> i'm sure your family members have some interesting stories to tell. >> they sent me a text saturday morning saying don't worry, we're okay. i said i didn't know i had anything to worry about but i'm glad you're okay. 100 aftershocks since the 5.1 on friday night, and for years seismologists have warned the fault has potential for a catastrophic earthquake. >> major earthquake. at 8:00 we had one that was about only a 3.6. this one felt like it was about a 10.0. >> reporter: it may have felt like a 10.0 to this cnn ireporter but friday night's earthquake in los angeles was nowhere near the big one. still, people are wondering.

>> is there a chance that on the's earthquake could be a preshock to a larger earthquake? >> there always is. >> 5% of california earthquakes are followed by something larger within three days. >> reporter: the trembler center aid long the fuentes hill fault. it was one of the first in california since 20 years ago after a quick killed more than 50 people and causing an estimated $42 billion in damage. cnn meteorologist alexandra steele says the chance far catastrophe line of scrimmage northridge exists anywhere a fault plane is present. >> our surface is constantly moving and it's composed of enormous rock that's slowly moving underneath our feet. when they rub and touch and crash against each other or crack, then there's this massive release of energy and that's an earthquake. >> reporter: we still can't predict the big one. that's unpredictable. >> unpredictable. many the last 100 years we can detect them, we know their

origin, their magnitude, but up with thing yet we don't know is when they will happen. >> while scientists can't predict the big one, that hasn't stopped some from imagining a doomsday scenario. california has a 46% magnitude 7.5 or greater. it would likely hit southern california, a recent virtual earthquake study by stanford university tried to envision what would happen if the big one did hit. >> the waves travel through that corridor towards los angeles and are essentially guided into the sedimentary basin that underlies los angeles. once they're in that basin, they reverberate, they cause strong shaking. >> reporter: a scale of disaster that hopefully won't become a reality nooim soon. the good news for those watching us in los angeles, the usgs tells cnn the sequence of earthquakes seems to be moving east and that they appear to be at this point dissipating. that's the good news. >> that is good news.

i think that's always the fear, isn't it, for folks in california. >> reporter: oh, sure. >> you know because you lived in southern california. but the big one in san francisco, i think people in large part have always been asking when's the next one, how much worse can it get. >> up until a couple weeks ago, los angeles hadn't seen a really strong earthquake. you had one two weeks ago and another a couple days ago. but 1994 the northridge earthquake, which i lived through and a lot of people watching at home i'm sure lived through was a traumatic experience. $42 billion in damage. isn't coming, fred. the big one- >> oh, yes. of course fingers always crossed. >> always. >> thanks so much. appreciate that. >> thank you. let's go overseas now. u.s. secretary of state john kerry and russian foreign minister sergey lavrov are in paris right now for a closed-door meeting. they're expected to discuss how to resolve the crisis in ukraine peacefully. right now, tensions are high along ukraine's eastern border. that's where russia has reportedly massed at least 40,000 troops.

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all right. we're following major new developments as the search for malaysia airlines flight 370 moves into day 24. here's what we know right now. four orange objects about six feet long have been spotted today in the southern indian ocean. officials are calling it the most promising lead so far, and ships are actually on the way to that area to investigate. and officials say several other objects picked up by ships yesterday are actually fishing equipment and trash. and there's only about one week of battery life left on the flight recorder pingers. and because of that looming

deadline, an australian ship carrying a u.s. pinger locator and undersea search equipment leaves for the search zone shortly and is expected to arrive on thursday. and in malaysia, frustration among family members is now intensif intensifying. they say they want the malaysian government to rereel everything they know about the plane's disappearance. paula hancocks joins us live from kuala lumpur. paula, the families holding this extraordinary news conference today to make new demands. what exactly were they saying? >> reporter: well, fredricka, these chinese families of the passengers of this missing airline actually travels from beijing to kuala lumpur because they basically thought they weren't getting the answered they deserved in china. they thought they had to be here on the scene where the investigation is ongoing so that they could talk to malaysian authorities. it was an impassioned press conference. you could see the desperation in many of the men's eyes as they were chanting, saying we want

the truth, we want evidence, we want our family. and certainly they were asking for many things. they were asking for exact evidence, exact credible information that the malaysians have that they believe they're not getting. and they also ask for apologies. >> we want malaysia to apologize for the information that caused confusion in the first week, which delayed the search mission. and we want the malaysian government to apologize for irresponsibly announcing on march 24th that the plane has crashed. >> reporter: it's not just the malaysian authorities they want to talk to, fredricka. they also said they want to talk to boeing. they want to talk to the technical people at boeing and the other companies that are ayear to dated. they said they have no comment from them. they're concerned they're trying to hide something. at this point they are trying to find information from any source that they can. >> and paula, mostly these

sentiments have been coming from family members of passengers. what about family members of the cabin crew? >> reporter: i spoke to the husband of one of the flight attendants on saturday, and you would have thought as an employee of malaysia airlines that he would have been subject to further information, but he basically told me that his wife, who was on that plane, had been working for them for 18 year and yet he wasn't getting any more information. he said most of his information he actually got from the televised press conferences that we see most days, from the actual transportation minister, from the chief executive of malaysia airlines. and then he said he maybe gets a phone call or a briefing afterwards but doesn't learn anything new. he feels as though the world is being told the information before he is and it was his wife who was on board that plane. fredricka? >> heartbreak no matter which wheyway you look at that. thanks so much, paula. if the worst is confirmed about flight 370, and we could see a whole lot of lawsuits. in fact, a law firm in chicago is already trying to force

malaysia airlines and boeing to hand over documents about the plane. so what are the legal options and hurdles for the families of flight 370? floyd wiesner is an aviation accident attorney. he e joins me from boynton beach, florida. good to see you. do you expect a number of lawsuits once we do learn what happened to this plane? or will all of these lawsuits actually precede that? >> well, thank you for having me on the program, fredricka, but as again malaysia air, i believe that its liability will be definite under the montreal convention, which governs a claim against malaysia air, no matter what the outcome of the investigation shows of the crash. and that is because no matter whether it's pilot suicide or homicide or sabotage or hijacking or some kind of structural failure, the liability all points to malaysia airlin airlines.

and to correct a point perhaps made in some publy kagpublicati not limited to the initial payment of $176,000. it's unlimited. >> but wouldn't the structure of a lawsuit change pending the kind of information or evidence that it's collected over time? >> yes. definitely. if the evidence shows there was a mechanical or structural failure, then it would also be responsible and a lawsuit would be brought against those parts. after such information from investigation it's going to be impossible to file a claim against boeing. this recorded thing in illinois is a shameful publicity stunt designed only to get passengers to sign up with this particular law firm. it's going to be dismissed in my opinion shortly by the court. lit not accomplish the goal it says of getting evidence and is going to just cause more anguish

to the family. >> and what if ultimately payments are made, whether it be by malaysian air or perhaps even ultimately boeing and it seems as though after evidence, more evidence is collected or perhaps, you know, the actual impact location were zeroed in on, it would seem as though legal liability has changed completely. then what for those settlements? >> well, you know, all settlements -- the insurers of malaysia air are going to insist on a settlement that it be full and final and that all potential parties are released. once the settlement is accepted, the passengers or crew's family -- that's going to be the end of it. that's why families have to be care informal signing any documents from malaysia air. >> floyd, thanks so much. >> thank you. >>. >> straight ahead, what challenges will searchers face looking below the surface for flight 370? over 20 million kids everyday in our country lack access to healthy food.

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whenever the search for flight 370 does go below the ocean surface, crews will face new challenges finding the plane and its black boxes. cnn's tom foreman explains. >> really what we're talking about is two searches because you have search above the water up here, going on for days and has been producing no real results, a lot of kag accumulation but no physical clue, then you have a the search below the water, what's going to happen down here as you move into the area where the plane's wreckage might actually be. huge problem, because this distance top to bottom here it can be one mile, two miles, three mile, it could be any kind of distance down there based on the average depth of the indian ocean but in that range. getting to it and finding it could be a huge challenge because once you get oun down

there with sonar or anything else, you have to deal with mountains and valleys that could conceal any wreckage from you. bear in mind, this is important to think about. the wreckage may be scattered over big area but it also could be, as it was in the case of air france, contained within an area that would be only a few football fields in-in size. that is incredibly small in the midst of a very vast area. and one last point of reference in all this, remember, just the latest search area here is as big as the entire air france search area. and finding the wreckage under water there took two years. fredricka? >> all right. thank you so much, tom. a dawning task indeed. let's bring back our panel now, kip darby in atlanta and tom fuentes in washington. as you saw there, you know, finding the plane and the black boxes deep in the ocean will be quite the challenge. so with all this technology, is this now kind of if itch us the, i wonder, you know, for some sort of immediate tracking of

all planes as they are flying? >> certainly they push for that. i mean, i think most people would welcome that. pilots certainly would at this point. the world is watching and it brings a point, too, that we aren't actually tracking on a realtime basis these airplanes, nor do we have the ability to prevent someone from turning that tracking off, very confusing in this case. >> tom, it would seem at this juncture, you know, talking about over three weeks now, entering our fourth week of looking for any kind of, you know, evidence or semblance of this flight, passengers, crew, et cetera. it would seem that all of this evidence to help point in the direction of what caused this is just not reachable. is that your view? do you feel like if we'll ever really get to the bottom of what happened here? >> that's true, fredricka. what you have is information and you don't always have good information or true information. it's not evidence. evidence is you have a fact. you have a piece of the airplane. that's a fact. you have a location. that's a fact.

you have debris on the bottom of the ocean. that would be a fact. that would be evidentiary. so right now all we have is one piece of information after another that one day it's true, the next day it's not, the day after something else is true, and the search locations keep getting shifted as they have just the last couple days. and that's what's confusing and frustrating to the family members that they think maybe something is being hidden or why is the information keep changing, they're looking for something sinister just in that, and it's really a case of the technicians aren't sure they recalculate, come up with new theories about where that plane went down or how fast it was going or how high, and that's where the problem is, that you don't have facts, you just have theories. >> tom, is it your worry that the longer we go, the more compromise any potential evidence is by being in the water, being waterlogged? i mean, clearly there are markings on pars of planes that would help indicate its impact,

how it went down, et cetera. but then i wonder over time, weeks, months, perhaps even year, can there be such great erosion that you can never really get a solid, i guess, clue on any kind of wreckage or debris that you ultimately might find? >> well, it's possible, but in the immediate short term you have, you know, not a lot of corrosion or damage to, you know, the evidentiary aspect. you know, if it's sitting at the bottom of the ocean there, the water's cold, remains will be somewhat preserved, things will stay a lot more preserved there than they would on a tropical island where it's 130 degrees and 100% muhammad tihumidity. you have these oceanographers finding world war ii ship wrecks and aircraft that went down 70 year ago and they're able to learn a great deal of information from that. so i don't think in the short run but we're look agent the possibility, you know, it took two years for air france and that's when they knew exactly where to look.

essentially they knew within a 40-mile radius to look and right now we're not even at that point yet. >> we're also hearing, gentlemen, that this australian ship that would have a u.s. pinger on board might mott get to that new search area until thursday. if that's the case, then there are maybe two, three days of battery life for that pinger that would be on that flight data recorder. it doesn't seem conceivable that they would just happen to be in the right place because, again, it's the collection of debris watching the difficult pat northwestern which to know where the impact point is, and you can't do that in a matter of hours. >> no. it's a now search area, that type of search is very slow, 4 to 5 knots, not going the move fast, not going to cover much area. the area is huge. we would be fantastically look lucky to put that thing in the water where it could hear the pinger. >> what's your outlook on this week's potential developments, talking about the kind of air and sea outfits being provided that might arrive at that

location, i guess the more optimal search location right now this week? >> you know, the assets are everything we have and we're put everything out there, but the area is so large and the information so huge, we haven't confirmed a thing. i'm not sure we're in the right area. it's the best calculation right now. we have to go with it. it could be pretty much in that ocean down there and it's huge. >> i think there were moments yesterday where many people expressed they were feeling hopeful that the chinese ship, australian ship were able to pick up items that might have been connected to the wreckage and then upon inspection it turns out that was sea trash. hope lost in your view? >> the hope in the we ginning was we had satellite imagery that was five days old and didn't find anything. now we have a picture from the aircraft the next day, that's a big improvement. the trouble is what we found has no link to the airplane so we're still without evidence. you know, we have hope and we've narrowed it down we think but we

don't have one single piece of hard evidence yet. we could be wrong. >> and tom, how about you? you still remain hopeful? even today there are reports of four objects that may be several feet long, orange objects spotted, but again it's a matter of retrieving and then making a connection whether those things are, indeed, related to flight 370. it's premature in your view to lose hope or, you know, do you just need to be hopeful hoping that one day something will be located? >> i think that's true. i'm hopeful. i'm just not optimistic. >> all right. thanks so much. we'll talk again with you all later on. straight ahead, more coverage on the search for flight 370. and next the los angeles area jolted by two earthquakes in less than 24 hours. is a bigger earthquake on the way? of whole grains that give you the energy to help keep you going. i love nature valley breakfast biscuits.

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we have earthquakes every day in this world. you don't feel all of them. >> that's extraordinary. >> what we're more familiar with is san andreas fault. that is east. quite a big one that runs up and down the coastline. it's this fault we're talking about here. tectonic plates. >> it really is a way of life. people are accustomed to degrees of tremors, earthquakes, they know what makes them nervous. still in the back of everyone's minds if you live in that region is the next big one. >> nick valencia, who was there said something like that happens to you, you never forget it. you're bracing for the next one. when it happens you become more acutely aware. >> it's great to be prepared. i kind of forgot, what's the rules. good to remind. >> stop, drop, and roll. >> you know, i don't know if i'd

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there was a brief bright moment for the families of flight 370. drivers in the malaysian grand prix remembered the missing and their families with stickers on their helmets and race cars. the prime minister called for a moment of silence at the beginning of today's race. the winning driver, lewis hamilton dedicated his victory to the families and missing. >> after such a difficult weekend, long winter and we've got a great crowd here today, the working hard with mercedes to give us this win. i feel so grateful, especially after the tragedy three weeks

ago. i'd really like to dedicate it to the victims and their families. >> an ocean shield will join the search for flight 370, loaded with high-tech search equipment including black box detector. paula newton has more. >> ocean shield ready hours away from sailing off to a search zone that so far yielded no trace of flight 370. the australian ship will be the linchpin of the investigation but only if and when air wreckage is found. >> this is a challenging job. the first is to find debris so we can back out an impact point for initial search area. >> fitted on board u.s. navy towed pinger located isolate from cockpit and flight data recorders and bluefin 21,

underwater vehicle combing the ocean floor looking for wreckage. no matter how specialized and sophisticated this equipment, it won't do any good unless the search zone will be narrowed. >> we need better point of impact estimation than we have right now. >> u.s. navy commander mark matthews leading the team that will deploy locater equipment. it needs to become within a mile of the pinger just like the one he's holding. >> i can search approximately 50 square miles a day. so really if we're searching for a beacon and living on borrowed time, i need something less than 1,000 square miles. >> right now we're dealing with 100,000 square miles. >> yes. >> challenginging. >> low probability detection that is our search area. >> that's a sobering thought for families of those missing as au

they are worth investigating and ships are on the way to the area right now. several other objects picked up by ships yesterday turned out to be fishing equipment and other trash. one fact on all the semmers minds, the battery life left on the data recorder pingers is runn