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so far, not a wing, not a rutter, nothing. that could be about to change. now that australians have spotted what they are calling their most promising lead so far. experts say they could be the plane's emergency escape slides, life rafts even. right now ships are on their way to investigate. crews are cautious, turned out to be fishing equipment and other trash. all the while only about a week of battery life left. an australian ship carrying
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search equipment leaves for the search zone shortly. the next airship leaves in two hours. search planes will take off and search crews haven't retrieved anything so far they see things that are interesting have they picked up anything yet that they can investigate to see if they are part of the plane? >> well, there have been some items picked up by sea. we are not clear on whether those are objects that were spotted by the planes. we can tell you that specific item that you were talking about. those four orange objects have not been retrieved yet. they are intriguing. they are six and a half feet long. they are orange and the pilot when they stepped off of the
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plane yesterday, said that theet were quite intriguing because they are all together and bright orange. don't know what that is. there have been a number of items. there is a lot of sea junk out there, jim, very difficult to tell until they are picked up by the sea vessels whether or not they are actually connected to the plane. >> one of the problems is that the plane will spot something but it is difficult for the ship to get to that same area in time before the current has moved them on. how confident are they when the search planes go up that they will be able to potentially pick them up. it depends on whether or not the g gps buoy is dropped.
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for example, there was some debris spotted on the sea. the pa crew did not drop a gps buoy. they weren't quite sure and leaned toward the theory that they might be significant. the australian crew yesterday, seeing those four orange objects did drop one. if it is dropped, then the chances that a sea vessel will be able to find that debris is much higher. so that is really what they are looking at. if a gps buoy is dropped, then the chances are increased. jim. >> one more question. the new search area is smaller than the original search area. do we have a sense now of what percentage of the new search area that the search planes were able to cover?
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>> we don't have an exact percentage. we can tell you, they are ch chchun chunking off a huge portion every single day. when all of this began a week ago, they were clearing 30,000 square kilometers. they cleared 252,000 kilometers and now for the first time, we see more sea vessels. so 8 were crisscrossing the area going to the places where the objects were spotted. a jump in the amount of square foot age that is being covered. we have pictures of air assets that are going up. there are now two p-8's looking
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for pieces of this missing flight. thank you. i want to talk now about these latest developments with our panel of experts. we have jim tillman and cnn law enforcement analysts the former assistant of the fbi. and miles o'brien. jim, if i can start with you, another day turning up objects that look possibly from several hundred feet in the air like they could be from the plane. some of them more than four to six feet long. when you hear of those dimensions or color does that make you think that it could be parts of this plane? >> yes, it does. because, you know i don't know the dimension ps of the evacuation slides but it falls in that general arena.
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i don't think it looks like the rafts which are a completely different style and size. but that would be wonderful to find those. >> just a question, would those slides be able to open automaticcly if they were able to open? as i remember how they are hooked up, once they depart the airplane, they inflate. they are attached to like the doors and when you open that door, they flop out and fill up with air and they are ready to float and they are generally, generally capable of carrying several people as you go along. they are pretty sturdy. miles one difference of this new
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search zone. it is closer to australia and in shipping lanes more likely to have trash. that is a challenge as the planes go up. they are more likely to be seeing pieces of the plane. >> given the trash that we have discovered in the indian ocean i suppose it is a wash if you will. one advantage is you have more sets of eyeballs in the arearea. somebody might be able to help the searchers in their efforts. the fact that it is better seas is great. all of these things are working in favor of the search. we are talking about an area the size of new mexico. still seems like not enough resources in my view.
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>> it is interesting. the chinese have sent nine ships. i want to bring you in if i can on the investigation. we learned in the last 24 hours that the malaysian invest gigaos we also heard in the last 24, 48 hours that what they have seen so far from the pilot's flight simulator have shown no smoking gun or red flags. you have done countless investigations so far. is that because they have no other leads? >> well, it is a little bit of both. but it is a miss characterization to say now they are going back to take another look. they are going back to take another look from the first night that it disappeared. the look has been intense in terms of the pilots, the crew,
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so that has been on going and not stopped. they may do continuing interviewintervie interviews of persons and keep reinterviewing them. as of now, in spite of the false reporting that has been put p out, nothing derogatory has been put out for anyone else at this point. one change are the final words from the aircraft are different. we are going to get back to the panel and get into some of the remaining questions. we'll talk again later this hour. we know about the emotional stress put on the loved ones of flight 370. next, dr. sanjay gupta continues to wait for answers. ups is a global company, but most of our employees
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welcome back. i'm jim shuto in new york. pr prime minister gave families his word that the search will not end until the flight is found. they say they want the truth and
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evidence of what was found. two thing that is they can't get right now. >> i know you spent a lot of time with the families. this has been gutt wrenching for them. how are they handling it and what are they telling you now? >> they have been on so much emotional highs and lows hearing from the different authorities here. we are seeing a difference from the chinese passengers that make up the bulk of the flights and the families of the other passengers and the others that were on the flight. what we are seeing from the families is frustration and they have been very, very vocal about that. they have told us things like we believe we are being lied to and not getting the information that we deserve. they are very, very angry with
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the government because they feel that the information has changed too many times. there have been too many differences and even differences in what they are hearing from difference authorities. for example, when the prime minister said this plane ended with the crash into he didn't say crash. he said the flight landed or ended in the southern indian ocean and the families were told that all lives were lost. and then a day ago we heard that there was still hope and a search and rescue mission was in order and perhaps there are still survivors and they are still looking for survivors even 23 days on. so the families are thinking one person is saying one thing and another person is saying another thing who are we to believe? the families believe their loved
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ones are still alive and they can't believe until they see physical evidence. and there is where the frustration lies not only with the families but with investigators. they have found no physical evidence of it and until they do, many of the families are so skeptical they won't believe what they hear. jim? >> listen. many share their frustration we had another change in terms of what the final words were from the cockpit. when you are speaking to families and they are talking about still having hope, is it your sense that they feel that is a realistic hope that they feel it could be true or that it is a protective mechanism? >> it is a really really good question and perhaps better for a psychologist to answer.
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but it interesting in the way that some of them say it. some say i believe that i can feel that my loved one is still there. almost like they are telling themselves that they can't let go. sometimes the say i believe they are still alive but they say but if they aren't we will accept that. so you are right, i think some of them are doing this as a protective measure. they can't understand and don't want to even consider that their loved ones are gone while the others are starting to say things like well, yes, we believe they are alive, but it is possible that they are no more but all we want is proof and truly all we want if they are all dead is to see them and bury them. that is what we are hearing here. the least they can ask for is certainty and that is the reason
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behind the plane. >> for those family members, of course, this is a living nightmare and this is taking a toll on all of them. sanyay? >> there is no question there is a physical impact from all of this grief and images that you have been seeing. some of this tracktical. they aren't eating or sleeping as well. they have the collapse. your stress hormone levels go up and down as you need it. in people in these situations they stay elevated. their heart level may be increased and they perceive harmless threats as dangerous. i want to point out something that is important. the whole world is pay aing
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attention. that can buoy up them and make them feel one way. when the searches get called off that can be a devastating fall. when you realize that people have moved on and it can be greater than the initial lost it self. it is hard to say that everyone will get closure. people will behave differently. for most people they will realize that there is closure here. what happens sometimes is that the pain continued daily pain of not knowing and the worry and anxiety gradually outweighs the pain of the lost it self. it is heart breaking to think about it and everyone is going to be different. that is a little bit of an idea of what they may be going
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through. we'll have more on the plane in a moment. but ahead, a pair of large earthquakes rattle southern california followed by hundreds of aftershocks. we'll go there in just a moment. weekdays are for rising to the challenge. they're the days to take care of business. when possibilities become reality. with centurylink as your trusted partner, our visionary cloud infrastructure and global broadband network free you to focus on what matters. with custom communications solutions and responsive, dedicated support, we constantly evolve to meet your needs. every day of the week. centurylink® your link to what's next. gunderman group is growing. getting in a groove. growth is gratifying. goal is to grow. gotta get greater growth. growth? growth. i just talked to ups. they've got a lot of great ideas. like smart pick ups. they'll only show up when you print a label and it's automatic. we save time and money.
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ukraine. now we want to go to southern california where aftershocks are rattling nerves after earthquakes more than 100 aftershocks have taken place. stephanie elam is live in los angeles where there is plenty of concern that the big one could be next. is that what the experts are saying that these could be forewarnings of a bigger earthquake? >> they are not saying that. is all of this activity is going to lead to something bigger. and what they did say is that when you see a 5.1, which is a moderate sized earthquake, and a smaller one, a 4.4, that is what they usually do. you have a earthquake and they continue to get smaller after that. most of them being very small. most of them not even noticie i
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them but that is typical behavior and they have been saying that the last 20 years have been quiet which is not typical for the la region and this could mean that we are going back to a normal cycle of having these earthquakes all the time, jim. >> what are people doing to prepare as the aftershocks follow. a lot of people have thought about what they need to do. when you talk about a 5.anything earthquake, for most people who live in california, it is really not that big. we don't usually get freaked out by that. but if you live in the area where the bricks are falling and everything is coming off your shelves, that is a terrifying experience. i can tell you it takes you a
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long time to go back to sleep. i don't want to down play it for the people who have been living with it. this is scary. i believe it was a ten second earthquake. so that is scary. but overall, this is not the biggest earthquake that we have seen out here. it makes everyone sit up and pay attention and prepare about moving forward, jim. >> no question, and i have been through a couple as well. those things are hard to sleep after >> more than a week after a massive mudslide struck washington state. searchers are still looking for sour vif survivors. washington's governor told cnn today he is still hoping for a miracle. but it is proving difficult. >> the extreme conditions can't be overstated when you talk to
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welcome back. some are calling it the most promising lead so far. the team saw four orange colored objects.
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some six feet long. experts say the they could be the plane's emergency slide. in the meantime in malaysia frustration is growing. get up. get up, get up. a group of chinese families demanding that officials provide evidence on the fate of their loved ones. malaysia's prime minister responding with a statement, be assured that the government is fully committed to the search operation and we will not stop until the plane is found. the time is quickly running out in the search. there is only one week of battery life left. right now under water search
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equipment are loaded up and ready to head for the search zone. we look at how it may solve the mystery of flight 370 if time doesn't run out. >> the ocean shield is at the ready and hours from sailing off to a search zone that so far has yielded no trace of flight 370. the australian ship will be the linchpin of the investigation but only if and when air wreckage is found. >> the trick is to find debris and pinpoint and impact point to give us a initial search area. >> i toll pinger locater to find the flight data locaters. and a blue fin 21. >> it won't do any good unless
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that search zone can be nar road. >> we need better point of impact estimation than we have right now. u.s. navy commander is leading the team that will deploy the locat locater. and it need to come within a mile of the locater. i can search approximately 50 square miles a day. if we are searching for a beacon and we are leaving on borrowed time i need something that is less than 1,000 square miles. >> as you said, challenging. very low propability if that is our search air yaxt and that is a sobering thought for those families. those working to deploy her are mindful that every minute counts. the signal will last nor than a week wreckage has been
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dragged for more than a week now. >> i want to bring back our fpa now. he said listen, it's not useful until they have identified a debris field because of the range of the pinger locater and what they drag behind the ships. is it because they don't have much on the ships? >> it is moving it into position on spec. if you get it close to the search area with time dwindling,
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they will be able to get that device on station and listening that much sooner. it is sort of protectively putting it in place. >> it is something we have to do expectation management here. there will be something spotted and something more into position. they are not much more into finding the position of where this is. about what has been spotted now. you have several orange objects some as long as six feet long. we were looking at what those exscae scape slides look like. what else on a plane could be that size and color? i know i'm asking you for educated guesses here. there are other things on a plane that would look like that? >> yes, and no. a lot of things are routinely
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put there. they are not put there for flotation but they are there and it would be difficult to determine now which one would have that size and shape. i was thinking about what was happening earlier. most of these happen as they leave the airplane. they leave and begin to inflate. yes, the slides are larger, but it depends on which slide. i have to tell you, they are not uniform. the forward portion of the airplane are different in length than the ones on the rear of the airplane. so, you have different sizes and i'm beening to get more skeptical about the size of the objects. tom, i wonder if i could bring you in, mike rogers, he's it's chairman of the house intelligence committee.
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he said he has seen nothing yet that comes out of the investigation that would lead him to conclude that there was something in the flight. i wonder, you speak to your contacts vu heard or seen anything with your expertise that indicated foul play or are we where we were a week ago and still guessing? >> jim, nothing in the investigation has revealed that the pilot or someone else entered the cockpit and caused this to happen. the reporting that somehow the pilot had a nervous break down nothing proves that. now you are trying to prove a negative but there is no
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indication that, what may have caused it from that standpoint. >> that is really the word today. keeping all of the options open because they are not much closer to answering those questions. we are going to have you back. what happens next? after this, the pain staking task as investigators try to pull back the pieces. imagine if everything you learned led to the one job you always wanted. at university of phoenix, we believe every education- not just ours- should be built around the career that you want. imagine that. hey there cashhhhhhp you? (whispering) sorry
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in just a few hours, ships and plane s will return to the search look foing for any sign debris. what happens if and when they find some? cnn has a look at what happens next. >> picking up the pieces, putting them together. it has been done by crash investigators before. the question is in the mystery of flight 370 will it be done again. we have to get salvage vessels into the area that have the equipment that can lift potentially large pieces of airplane not only off the surface of the water but drop down cables long enough to reach down.
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>> flight crashes off the coast of long island new york. investigators spot pieces of the boeing 747 right away but it takes three days to find the bulk of the wreckage. they reassemble it in a long island hanger. you can place pieces of it back together again. you can see how they relate to each other. is that still necessary? >> there is obviously debate about that. the older model could record only 18 indicators. the data gave only a partial view of what happened onboard at the time of the crash. speed, altitude, heading, so, it was not that helpful, in the
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determining what the probable cause was. >> the missing data recorder captures indicators but will it be enough? >> if there is something conclusive that says the engines quit or there was a fire distinguishing that went off they may not have to reconstruct the entire aircraft. >> alexandra field, cnn. >> much of the search for flight 370 hinges on the weather. coming up, what search crews can expect in the day to come. first, for a mom with three children a cancer diagnose says of ten raises fears with your kids than with your own life. >> coming 7:00 let's go brush your teeth.
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search crews in the indian ocean are closing in on four orange objects spotted in the hunt for flight 370. cnn's alexandra steel explains how the weather could impact this week's search. >> there is the search effort off the coast of australia. the size ofmexico. and within it clouds and wind. this is an active part of the country that the storms come through. nothing to stop them and it is so fluid out here. wind speeds 30, 40 mile per hour wind gusts looking out into the ocean and watching the storms roll through. monday you can see we have rough
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weather. tuesday we'll hold off. wednesday bad weather but here comes thursday a break in the action. and watching this low pressure. it holds off for friday and saturday and as we het ad into monday and tuesday the storm system sweeps in. that is the way it goes. >> each day brings new questions about the mystery of flight 370 we appreciate the ones you have been sending in. we are going to bring our panel back in right now. aviatifviation analyst and tom s and miles o'brien. jim, i want to start with you. this question from a viewer named tower, how many sorties out of his seat does each pilot get on a flight like this and
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how much sleen did sleep did the pilot or co-pilot get? >> we have to give them time to do that. and now we have two on scene from america. i understand they are going to alternate that. and that is smart scheduling because this is boring work. let's face it. it is not like you have something exciting happening. you don't want anybody to suffer from fatigue and you are flying very close to the surface but in the proximity of another bunch of airplanes. yes, i'll bet you that they have to take into account rest time for everyone of these afe yeah tors and their view. >> those searching could get tired. but how about the pilots of that
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flight? how many times would you get a rest outside of the cockpit? >> generally, there are pilots that are aboard that relieve the crew that is signed out for the airplane. as you go back and catch some rest. i worked on a nasa program about sleep deprivation and they have examined this and they found there are three different periods of sleep that seem to work. one is 15 minutes and then 90 minutes. but that 15 minutes if you do it right would be very, very helpful because you come out of it refreshed. it takes 4 or 5 minutes once you stop sleeping before you feel good again and then after going on. j oxygen you feel great. >> are we to believe that any
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cockpit conversations are only saved to a recorder? is that really the state of technology today? >> i believe so. once they leave air traffic control ability to communicate with the ground and they are off over an ocean, i don't know who else they can talk to. >> we have time for one quick question, i want to bring to miles if i can. this is something that has come up in a lot of our conversations, why is it that a cockpit ecar system of sending data back to the ground can be shut down for any reason? >> you know jimmy get repeated questions why can you turn off the transponder? >> you don't want something that you can't turn off? what if it is burning? >> good answer.
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it is sunday today, and worshippers around the world are offering prayers for the passengers and crew from malaysia airlines flight 370. we go inside a buddhist temple. >> thousands of people are gathering at temples like this. they are offering priors and blessings for the people inside flight 370 and their families. ♪ inside this temple chants and
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prayers this year a special prayer segment enabling all of the people here to offer prayers and concerns to all of the missing passengers and their families. >> we are not just focusing on buddhists but all of the victims of mh 370 that we care for them. that we also are suffering with them. the support doesn't stop here with this service. it will continue once they offer the families whatever they need to make this painful time a bit easier. cnn perth. >> you are in the cnn newsroom. the search for flight 370 is now in what could be