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remember, you can always follow us on twitter. you can tweet me @wolfblitzer. i'm wolf blitzer in the situation room. erin burnett starts right now. cnn obtains new images of the missing jet's radar track. and sources say they are treating the disappearance as the result of a criminal act. and final words from the cockpit were inaccurate. and the race to find the black box before it runs out of batteries. can searchers beat the clock? let's go "outfront". good monday evening. i'm erin burnett. we begin with breaking news in the disappearance of malaysia air flight 370.
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we have obtained new images of the missing jet's radar track which raised very important questions about the boeing 777's flight path. the reason i want to emphasize that picture used to show the line going up and then you saw the turn to the left. now when you look at your screen you realize it looped around. as a result of this picture that you are looking at here malaysian sources are telling cnn they are treating this disappearance as a criminal act. our nick robinson is breaking the story tonight in kuala lumpur. >> reporter: this map of flight 370's radar track was much of the reason for upset by survivor families last week. the image captured by still photographers shows a different route from the left turn depicted until now and it is raising even more questions about what exactly happened to
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flight 370, questions the family members were unable to ask at the time. >> the family briefings. >> chinese relatives of passengers say they created the map from publicly available data. a source with knowledge of the investigation tells cnn the new map if accurate shows someone with excellent flying skills was at the control of the aircraft. it is a claim that is getting heavy pushback from malaysian officials. >> with regards to the issue of information revealed outside the press conference or speculation and diagrams in google or anything else in the internet, i cannot confirm or discount. i can only base on what i have
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informed you. >> reporter: investigation officials insist privately this new map is not theirs, that it doesn't match malaysian radar readings. despite refusing to comment publicly malaysian officials did say all the radar data is central to their investigation. >> the manner of the control at the time of the aircraft turn is one of the very important for investigators. >> reporter: in a background briefing given to cnn malaysian investigators say they believed mh-370 was flown by someone with good flying skills. and now a government source says they consider the turn a criminal act committed by one of the pilots or someone else on board.
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>> these are the controls of the aircraft here? >> yes. >> wow. >> reporter: captain's friends refuse to believe he could be the criminal controlling the plane. >> i think you come to a stage where people think he is a hero. >> reporter: they are rallies to his defense, showing me pictures of a young captain zaharie at flight school. but for some the new map is casting a shadow over captain zaharie's memory. >> tell me more about why your sources are treating this as a criminal act now. what exactly has changed? >> reporter: what they are saying is they are looking at the way the aircraft has turned, that they have access to radar data that is showing them the
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way the aircraft turned. they believe this wasn't a turn as a result of a mechanical failure or something catastrophic going on on board of the aircraft. they believe this was under control of someone who knew what they were doing. that is why they are saying it is a criminal act. the source with knowledge of the investigation is also a friend of captain zaharie said eeemotionally i can't believe it, logically i have nowhere else to turn. he is saying he believes that the plane was flown out over the ocean towards the day break on a very remote part of the ocean with the intent whoever was at the controls with the intent of landing the plane on the water so that it would sink intact and make it harder for investigators to find. now, when you apply that sort of logic to the turn of the
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aircraft it very much fits that narrative of a criminal act. >> thank you very much. we are going to talk more about that whether such landing on water would result in an intact aircraft. let me start with you, miles, on the issue of the new flight path. the families say we went and reconstructed the radar data and came up with this loop as opposed to a slow turn. in part because of that pictures sources in malaysia saying because of this picture they are in part treating this as a criminal act. how significant is the new map to you? >> if proven true, if this is the track of flight 370 it is almost impossible to come up with a scenario that would involve some sort of mechanical malfunction or decompression or any sort of high dive, the termt that pilots use.
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you wouldn't take a lazy right-hand turn 270 degrees around to what would have been a 90-degree turn in the first place. if that were true. i think the lesson in all of this, the malaysians have not released data to us for consideration to the families or the media. so what these families have done is try to go through open source means and tried to come up with their own version of the flight path. so this is a function of an investigation that is opaque. from the outside it doesn't seem very competent. >> we are going to have an in-depth investigation into the investigation later on in the program. this issue of criminal intent. you heard reporting that malaysian authorities say someone with excellent flying skills and then when confronted they say we want to pushback. you say it is a criminal act and then say it wasn't a criminal
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act. >> here is the bottom line. whether you want to take this new flight path which apparently has been reconstructed by the families based on publicly available information it clearly shows a deliberate intentional maneuvering of the aircraft. could be done by pilot or manually. if you compare that to what ewe know now, the left turn and the dissent that also was intentional act. is one more intentional than the other? and perhaps that makes it more criminal? here is what i think is very important. i agree with miles on this. if, in fact, there is some vurasity to the new flight track this impacts the location of the crash because it shows the airplane maneuvering and more fuel burn and shows the airplane at altitude. that could really be very significant in finding the wreckage. >> and what do you make of that point? we have been looking at millions of square miles and could be
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how quickly it was burning that fuel. this maneuver changes that equation somewhat and makes me wonder if they could be at the wrong place. >> that is what shocked so many people. our coverage continues. week four of our investigation we are learning the last words from the cockpit were not all right good night. >> a ship racing against time to get to the black box. the technology might be the only chance to find the downed plane and find out who or what happened. north korea fired rounds into south korea waters. why did it happen? that is coming up tonight. humans -- even when we cross our t's and dot our i's, we still run into problems.
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breaking news. at this hour search planes are just getting in the air heading to southern indian ocean hoping today will be the day. ten planes and nine ships taking part in today's search. we are learning new details about the final communications. malaysian government officials say the last words from the cockpit were good night malaysian 370 and not all right,
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good night. this misinformation is the latest in missteps from the malaysian government. i know you were at the press briefing when officials said the final communication was all right good night. weeks later we find out that is not true. it seems like such a simple thing. why put that out erroneously? >> reporter: that is a very good question. it doesn't instill a lot of confidence in how the malaysians are handling this particular investigation. we have heard this from the chinese families and certainly there appears to be more and more evidence of this. i was in that news conference. we heard it very clearly. we also heard them say it was the co-pilot they believed who was saying those words. now that is under question. it is not necessarily the words or the taking back of the information. it's what it signals is whether or not the malaysians are actually conducting a thorough
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and accurate investigation. >> where you are, the weather, it is a factor in the search. how rough of a day will it be? will they be able to get all of the ships and planes out to hunt? >> reporter: well, that's the hope. they have ten planes. they are expected to stagger throughout the day and head to the search area a. we are talking still even though this area has shifted it is still a very remote place in the middle of the indian ocean. weather is the key factor. we are learning that weather is not expected to be great. it is expected to be poor out there. visibility the biggest problem. and those airplanes are really how the debris will be spotted first. it is expected to be a problem today. >> thank you very much, reporting live from perth on this tuesday morning. wing commander is with the new
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zealand defense forces and has a key operational role. commander scott, you heard reporting on conditions today may not be great. is that also your belief. are you worried that it will be difficult to find anything today? >> that is the same information i am hearing from the crews that have been briefed. we have slightly higher sea and a weather pattern which is starting to come through yesterday and is likely to remain there today which will make matters slightly more difficult. >> there have been so many search zones since the flight disappeared 25 days ago now. are you confident you're searching in the right place at this point? >> what we have had each day as was reported through media there is more and more evidence to suggest that where we are searching at is the right area. the longer things go without
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search zone equipped with a piece of american technology called a towed pinger locater. it towed behind and looks for the ping. it might be the best hope for ever knowing what happened to this plane. there is a major problem. the black box batteries could lose power anytime from now until a week from now but technically a week from now. >> reporter: the malaysian transportation chief. >> a lot of these could be answered if we find the black box. >> reporter: less than a week until the batteries on the pinger likely run out. >> the chances of finding the pinger are very slim. even when you know roughly where the target is it can be tricky. they have a limited range. >> reporter: that is why the ocean shield is heading to the
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search area with this on board, towed pinger locater. it can probe down to 20,000 feet listening for the signal. >> here is a black box. you can see a pinger or beacon attached to the black box. when this gets wet it triggers a signal in here. >> reporter: the pinger locater can detect the black box signal from as far as two nautical miles away. >> if the boat is doing this on the ocean waves now you are attached to this thing so this thing goes up and down and is much less stable in the water. >> reporter: obstructions like hills and mountains on the ocean floor can impede the pinger locater. the maker of the pinger offers hope that maybe signal can extend. >> we are hoping to get an
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additional three to five days of life before the battery starts to diminish to the point where the output signal below minim minimums. >> reporter: cnn safety analyst cites his sources saying malaysia airline stored batteries for pingers in a place much hotter than recommended. malaysia airlines said we are unaware of issue with the under water locater beacon or batteries. >> i know they are trying everything they possibly can. you are reporting on the towed pinger locater. that is not the only high tech device that they are using even on that ship, right? >> reporter: that's right. the vessel, the ocean shield is equipped with another piece of equipment. if a piece of wreckage is found they will deploy the locater. an auv looks like a torpedo.
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at the malaysia peninsula. as the plane had taken off it would have went up. the earlier reported turn was basically a straight turn left, so taking a direct turn left. this, as you can see is a loop where they went right, down, up. if this is correct it would be purposeful. there would be no question about that. family members drew this. they said this is a new map of radar track. malaysian officials saw this map and said to cnn we are going to treat this as a criminal investigation at the same time disputing the map itself. that is confusing. there have been a lot of things like this. time and time again we are told one thing only to be told days later the information is wrong from debris to search areas to what someone said on airplane. >> reporter: aircraft, ships, hundreds of thousands of miles
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and nothing to offer but condolences. >> the questions that the families want answered is the question we do not have the answer to mainly where loved ones are. >> reporter: hopes are dashed almost daily, always the same story, object spotted from the air and space, when they are found, are not part of the missing plane. >> this is the best conclusion that we can come up with. now, until we locate some actual wreckage from the aircraft and then do the regression analysis that might tell us where the aircraft went into the ocean we'll be operating on guesstimates. >> reporter: and the guesses have been epic. incomplete and slow to reveal information, misdirected search teams thousands of miles north from where the plane was last electronically observed.
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constant sightings of what turns out to be unrelated debris demonstrates no one is clear what to look for. air crash investigator and safety expert says decisions have to be made on information that is available, however scarce and uncertain that may be. >> this entire situation is unprecedented. some of what seems to be misinformation that typically happens in an investigation just because the situation is so dynamic. >> reporter: in this case what steams like the simplest facts prove to be unreliable. >> we got the last transmission that says all right good night. >> reporter: three weeks ago the last words reported from the cockpit of mh-370 sent off waves of speculation of sinister intent. today we learn that was wrong. the suspicious phrase all right,
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good night was actually good night malaysian 370. what else is clear is that battery life will expire. raising the possibility that a task of finding 239 missing people will become even more difficult. cnn, atlanta. >> cnn aviation analyst miles o'brien and former cia analyst steven wood. miles, steven is going through these this and then that. we are told the last words were not all right good night but good night malaysian 370. the difference is not that significant. neither are perfectly perfect in terms of how you communicate with ground control. why not make this public weeks ago? >> great question.
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think about the asiana crash. there was a full transcript and recordings of air traffic control communications to the crew. that is a very simple thing. how that would undermine the investigation to release that, all i can say is there is a competency question here and cultural question here, as well. it is not as open a society as we have here and also not a lot of experience handling a crash of this magnitude. of course, this is unprecedented. >> there is that. they also indicated it was the co pilot who spoke all right good night. now they are saying it might not have been him. they are doing a forensic investigation. again, why would that have happened? do you think this is really because this is a society not used to a free press? >> in malaysia the dissim nation of information is controlled by ruling authority. they are not used to having the
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words questioned. i think that carried over into how the investigation was handled. from the get go this was incompetence at every level. getting a transcript correct on the last words that was spoken is not rocket science. >> especially when the transcript obtained by a newspaper and what they are saying now nothing sinister in it. it is not as though there is a smoking gun in there. >> it is a little less sinister to me now the way it comes out with all right good night malaysia 370. that is subjective. produce the transcript. what is the dark secret? >> you would rather them be secretive than truly not know than changing everything. here is the thing on the debris. the weather as we have been reporting and just learned from the new zealand commander not good.
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we have a search site shifted. it is difficult. they are trying to triangulate. do they know what they are looking at? >> we talk about the weather and how difficult it is to actually look and see the small objects. i think there is the mountain of imagery that people have to pour through. we have to go backwards in time. how do we go back and look and shouldn't we be going back to look at the air france incident. we can see what those objects like that look like on satellite imagery. >> we are looking at air france here. to most people this looks like looking at the sky and i see some kind of nebula. this is nebulous. you look at this and you can say i'm looking at debris.
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you are saying the satellite images should be enough. >> we need to take the lessons we learn from air france and apply it and we have to go through this mountain of data that the satellites are collecting to help hone in on the search area. we know through documented records where air france crashed. we were able to look at satellite images collected ten days after the debris was starting to get picked up. we have a very high probable assurance that those objects we are seeing on imagery were in fact aircraft debris. >> when it comes to the search we have now looked at the south china sea, indian ocean, we looked at a lot of places and every time you go back to square one because it shifts. all the different places they have looked for the plane. you heard the commander saying i think we are looking in the
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right place now. do you think it is possible that we could wake up one morning and we are looking over here or in the jungle or on land. >> or lake michigan. i don't know. here is the thing. the satellite which provided these big circles on the planet where the plane might have been at any moment was extraordinary that the engineers could figure that out. there is one other supposition. where did it hit and where did it end? it has a lot to do with how much fuel is on board, how far it flew and how high it flew. there is a lot ofiti supposition that determination. there is a lot of guesswork involved. we may look back at this and this is not close. >> there is no sense of motive. if there was a human who did this and the malaysians saying we are looking at this as a
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criminal act that somebody did it. you can get a sense of motive the where and the why would become so much more clear. with no motive what are you supposed to do? >> we were talking about it, as well. the supposition that perhaps the plane came in on this nice landing and -- >> as a friend of the pilot was sumizing. >> people are pouring over this. we had nearly 8 million people volunteer time to search through the imagery with the hope to see what they can do to find this. >> having looked at air france -- i have a map of the air france debris field. there is little pieces of stuff everywhere within 150 miles of the crash site. this is a crash where we knew quickly where it was. i guess the question is, will we be seeing this much here? >> part of the problem is that image and those debris found
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were found within a couple of weeks. we are going into the fourth week. >> if there was that much debris wouldn't it have been seen somewhere by someone? if you landed the plane in tact could it have sunk? >> if it sunk to the bottom you are not going to see it from a satellite. >> to the route that these families had shown malaysian authorities, if that is correct, then if you translate we are probably looking in the wrong place because fuel burn is longer, speeds are off. it's one thing to analyze the radar data and another thing to analyze. at the end of the day they are still guesstimating what the speeds and winds aloft, fuel burn was to come up with the site for the wreckage. >> do you agree with that? obviously when you look at that turn that can be a tight turn. >> i totally agree. and here is another thing.
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as long as we are pretty deep in speculation but let's go there for just a moment. if, in fact, this theory holds that he basically did a sully, ditched it intact in the water. you wouldn't wait until you are out of gas. you would have gas in the tanks. you would probably fly as far as you could and watching gauges but maybe do it with fuel and that would bring him far short of the search area. there is another piece of speculation. >> we have to leave it there. did he want there to be survivors or not? if you don't know that how do you know? still to come, more than a million general motors vehicles recalled today. did gm ignore warnings about faulty part and the government, too? north and south korea exchanging fire. the video here pretty stupend stupendous. we will show it to you.
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it is another in a growing list of missteps and misinformation in the investigation. nick robinson is in kuala lumpur in malaysia. and we will go to the simulators. investigators are looking at wich means flight 370 could look much like air france flight 447 with large chunks of debris on the surface. with the auto pilot on scenario. we go over that with the panel of experts. all that, look at the earthquakes in l.a. a lot more at the top of the hour. >> looking forward to all of that in a few minutes. breaking news of general motors recalling another 1.3 million cars this time for failing to report power steering problems. at least 13 people died in crashes linked to ignition
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switches. gm admits it knew of problems with the ignitions and didn't fix them. now details of government agency in charge of safety failed to investigate even after dozens of complaints. the story of one family who paid a terrible price. >> reporter: ken melton will never forget the night four years ago when he got the call. his daughter, brook, just 29 had crashed her 2005 chevy cobalt into another car. police said at the time it was her fault. eshe had lost control. >> even though i knew she was gone i reached over and kissed her forehead and whispered in her ear. i know she heard me. i whispered in her ear, brook, i will vindicate your death. >> reporter: gm has recalled 2.4
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million cars because of problems with the ignitions including the 2005 chevy cobalt that brook was driving. the cars have a faulty ignition switch. the switch can switch to accessory which cuts power to the engine and causes vehicles to lose power steering. that is what investigators say happened in brook's accident. >> beyond the review. >> reporter: in a statement that only reopened the pain the new ceo of general motors admits the company knew about the problem years before his daughter died. >> something went wrong with our process in this instance and terrible things happened. >> reporter: cnn has learned general motors is facing a criminal investigation into the handling of the deadly defect. the company admits 13 people have been killed but gm president mary barra has said gm
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has not identified who those people are, even to their own families and there could be even more than 13. according to the center for auto safety the government's own files show as many as 303 accident related we don't know why they didn't or what caused the accidents. >> the executives at gm weren't the only ones who knew and did nothing about a known deadly defect. the ntsb, the actual government agency tasked with keeping us safe on the roads knew all about the deaths, but says it didn't detect a trend, so failed to act. it was sitting there in front of the government. >> nitsa released a statement saying the data available to nitsa at the time did not
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contain sufficient evidence of a possible safety defect trend that would warrant the agency opening a formal investigation. >> i'm bubbling over with anger. i am overwhelmed by anger. >> drew griffin, cnn, washington. >> covering this story tomorrow, some other stories we're following tonight. first the stand-off between the russian/ukrainian border, there's zero evidence russia has withdrawn a substantial number of troops from there. there's 40,000 plus troops. russian president vladimir putin said he was moving some troops away from the border to ease tensions. obama care enrollment comes full circle. it started and ended on a rocky note today during the final day of open enrollment. those who tried signing up ran into technical problems. the senior official called it a software bug. those who had a problem will
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complete a grace period. more than 6 million people have signed up for obama care so far. north korea exchanged fire with the south during military drills, north korea fired 500 artillery shells. some of them reaching south korea. according to a south korean news agency. the south retaliated firing 300 shells. the united states which has been conducting joint military drills with south korea denounced north korea's actions calling them dangerous and provocative. and a fascinating case of government waste? we have to put a question mark on this, taxpayers are footing the $400,000 bill for this, absolutely gorgeous life sized sculpture of a camel that most americans will never get to see. the state department wants the piece to be included as public art at the new embassy being
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one of the most dedicated members of cnn's team during the search for flight 370 has been martin savage. it hasn't always been the easiest assignment, so jeannie motion went for the story. >> he's been glued to this flight simulator, ordering sharp terms and steep descents. >> kind of a dive. >> reporter: for so many days, someone starte started #freemartinsavage. the phrase was transformed into the shape of an airport. someone tweeted blink three times if you're being held against your will. >> don't worry. >> reporter: hearten and the pilot sitting beside him have demonstrated alarming situations, even the serious subject matter hasn't stopped a public fascination with the plaid shirts mitchell always seemed to be wearing. mitch's plaid shirt even started
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its own twitter account. >> the plaid shirt thing, it's not me, man. >> reporter: encouraged to cover up the white t-shirts he prefers. a pilot trainer with two bunnys for pets. a guy who's gun shy about being on tv. normally the canadian simulator is rented out by novices for fun. >> bask in the sensation of a cockpit of a boeing 777. cnn rented it out. >> this is our world. >> reporter: there's one scenario cnn wouldn't show, a simulation of a plane hitting the water. >> it was so disturbing we agreed we would never show that on the air. >> reporter: there were repeated demonstrations of a plane running out of fuel. >> it will fall tail first. i think we'll stop it right there, the rest of it you get. >> reporter: what do they do between live shots?
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some days they have hours of time on their hands. >> i always wanted to learn to fly. >> reporter: mitchell has been teaching martin. the machine can simulate landing at 24,000 airports. so far, martin has landed at airports ranging from paris to akron, ohio. >> climbing, is that right. >> reporter: mitchell talking him through it. he managed to return without incidents. >> and the thrusters. >> after 14 to 18 hour days, simulating disaster, it's a nice break to simulate a nice landing. >> thank you for flying martin and mitchell airlines. >> very cute. finally tonight, outfront launches our clipboard magazine. you'll have a chance to dig
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