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different part of the indian ocean. it was a matter of plain old bad coordination. the companies and countries involved in the search not communicating with each other. the search area finally shifted when authorities put the information together. australia's prime minister says the intensity of the operation is increasing, not decreasing, even though there is no concrete proof that the search teams are scouring the right area. somewhere in the southern indian ocean, the plane's black boxes are still pinging. time is running out for finding them while they're still operating. commander marks is on the uss blue ridge. in the southern indian ocean. i spoke to him earlier tonight. >> what's the latest on the search? will the p-8 poseidons be heading out to the search area today? >> they are. we are able to support this coordinated effort on a daily basis. so we intend to, if tasks, to have planes in the air every single day.
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our flight yesterday launched a little after noon and returned late evening. once again they see things every day out there, but nothing associated with an aircraft wreckage. so we do plan on having a "p" up today. they search 15, 16,000 square miles every single day. so between that and the other eight to ten planes out here and the great deal of ships, we are searching a large number -- a large amount of area, a lot of miles out there. and we've covered so much area, i was talking to one of the air crew yesterday. and they can confirm every time they go out, they have near 100% certainty that the area they covered is completely searched. >> wow. >> and so every time they go out, they can confirm that
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certainty. at this point it's just getting to the different places that we have not searched yet. but there is a lot of aspects out there, and we're just slowly getting to every single place. >> and while initially a lot of focus had been on how the new search area is closer to land, the weather there is more amenable to the search, there are these other issues that we've seen over the weekend, like how much garbage and sea junk there is. how are your crews dealing with that? it's got to be incredibly challenging? >> you have that excitement, and when it is garbage or seaweed or something like that, it's hard. it's hard to realize you didn't find anything. but you just keep at it, and keep at it, and this is what we do. this is what we train for. these planes by nature are built for intelligence, surveillance, reconnaissance and anti-submarine warfare as their primary missions. so they're used to looking for small objects. that's what they do.
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and so there is a lot of enthusiasm still. the air crews, every day they go out there and are really positive and they keep at it. they're really a tenacious and persistent group. >> today the intensity of the search, the magnitude of the operations are increasing not decreasing, are you seeing that reflected in what the u.s. is being asked to do in terms of searching? are you seeing an increase in the magnitude of the operations? >> i have an on international scale. so for the u.s. 7th fleet, we're in a supporting role. so every day an air tasking order comes out that's created by the australians and that deconflicts the search sectors, the communication frequent sis, the times. it's important for us to understand that we play just a small role in this big, coordinated international effort. i do see it increasing. last night the ocean shield. the australian ship departed
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free mantle with our towed pinger locator on board. along with our blue fin sonar. so that's at sea right now, and hopefully can be used later on. i do see an increase in the overall international effort. >> commander marks, i appreciate your time, thank you. >> you're very welcome. >> the breaking news to tell you about tonight, why search teams were looking in the wrong place before the search area was moved hundreds of miles, joining me now on the phone with breaking news is reporter andy pastor who just broke the story. what have you learned, andy? >> my colleague and i have a story up on the website which basically says that when the search was shifted yes there was new analysis to back that up, it also appears there was a lapse in coordination in the previous week or so, and the two different strands of the investigation, one dealing with satellite data and one dealing with fuel consumption and aircraft performance, they were not fully combined. in effect, when the malaysian
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prime minister on march 24th announced that the plane had gone into the water, and showed a trajectory of its flight, they didn't really have the full story, and they didn't put everything together until last friday. >> you're obviously talking about the switch from the search area, i guess it was last week to this newer search area, which they're now searching at. not the gulf of thailand early on in the investigation? >> that's correct. this is all in the past two weeks. >> it is extraordinary that the malaysian prime minister would get so far out in front of this in terms of making this announcement, and basically announcing that everybody had lost their life, when the people behind him doing all the work haven't linked up. >> well, i think partly it shows the tremendous pressure that everyone is under, and secondly, as you know, the malaysians have been criticized, many would say properly so for failing to provide a lot of information in the past. so i mean i think there's a sense among people who have been
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watching this that perhaps they overreacted and the prime minister moves a little too quickly, before everything was really fully staffed and analyzed and coordinated with all of the different strands of the investigation. and so what we're left with is a three-day gap where it's clear that folks were looking in the wrong place, based on the crrent updated analysis. >> and based on your reporting and your colleague's reporting, and maybe you don't know this or you do. have they rectified the problem so this doesn't happen again? so you don't have different arms in the investigation not really communicating? >> i think it's an effort in progress, obviously, i think everyone is trying to be more coordinated. if you talk to folks who know malaysia, including a former u.s. ambassador there and others, their point of view is the malaysians have never coped with anything like this, but they may not have the capacity in terms of the number of people and in terms of their ability to coordinate, not just between governmental entities inside the
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country but to coordinate with many other countries, who are working on this, i think they're trying, probably, getting a little better. but it's a basic problem, a basic problem that they've had to cope with from the beginning and most likely will have to continue to cope with for as long as it continues. >> miles o'brien is joining us as well. it's frustrating, when we saw at the press conference, they announced the change, the complete change in search areas, and they kind of just couched it in the most positive terms possible, without really acknowledging all the stuff that we've been doing for the last week is basically a waste of time, we've just been in the wrong area. >> let's break it down for a minute. you have a country that doesn't have the fundamental expertise to really run a proper investigation like this. and they just haven't had that experience. couple that with the fact that they're not used to being in an open society, they don't release
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information in the natural fashion. it's normal for them to hold back. then you add in the mix that they're trying to coordinate with nations whom they consider rivals. and then let's take it one more, the information that they're seeking is about their military radar systems. so you -- you can see, what could go wrong with all that, right? we're seeing exactly what could go wrong with all that. and the fact is, frankly, that the accident of geography that puts the search zone near australia is good news, they may take a de facto lead here. >> interesting. i should point out the article is up on the "wall street journal"'s website. just breaking put up there. up next, we're going to go in the flight simulator. miles is going come back. one of the possibilities the investigators must be looking at. that flight 370 was on auto pilot and the engine stalled. we'll see what that would look like. dozens of aftershocks hit
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southern california after a 5.1 magnitude earthquake. is an even bigger quake on the way? that's what it looked like, we'll look at the possibilities one may be coming in years ahead. we'll be right back. this is the first power plant in the country to combine solar and natural gas at the same location. during the day, we generate as much electricity as we can using solar. at night and when it's cloudy, we use more natural gas. this ensures we can produce clean electricity
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for weeks now, we've heard about the high-tech devices being used to find the missing plane. what many are wondering if we have all this extraordinary technology why isn't there more accurate information this far into the search and why haven't searchers found anything more. satellites are playing a key role, they're powerful tools. they also have their limits when it comes to ocean surface. gary tuchman shows us how it works. >> this is the launch of a satellite which captures high resolution and high definition images, a satellite that has nothing to do with any government. >> we need a no-go time for the nadir point. >> it was launched a few months ago by a silicon valley start-up. for its private clients. it's also being used to help the wreckage for flight 370. >> wherever possible we tried to use the images that we're collecting to help people around the world.
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>> this is mission control at skybox images in california's silicon valley. where 15 times a day -- >> we have radio signal -- >> employees check on the health of a satellite and download pictures and video, including images from the indian ocean. skybox shares its findings like this large white spot in the middle of the search area. could this be part of the plane? certainly not the other pictures not the least bit ambiguous, during the demonstrations in ukraine and kiev. >> smoke here. >> related so some of the fires. >> amazing that the satellite is so far in the sky. >> 2 million feet away. >> and in other countries like saudi arabia. >> this shows the port of jetta in saudi arabia. you're able to see individual shipping containers sitting in the storage facilities of this port. >> and it the car -- khartoom airport in sudan. >> you can see how many planes, can you see here it says runway 12, runway 12 goes to the
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southeast, can you tell even which direction this is going by looking at this picture. >> absolutely, that's what the 12 means. it's 120 degrees. >> this company can't tell if this white spot is airplane wreckage in the indian ocean. why such uncertainty if you can actually see numbers and words on the ground and other pictures taken from space? >> it's absolutely easier to see that something is a car in a parking lot on land and be able to determine that with high confidence than to be able to determine that something is a piece of an airplane or other type of debris field in the ocean. >> because it's water, there's nothing else there. there are clouds and waves? >> absolutely. >> this is the so-called clean room here in this company where the satellites are assembled. we have to wear these clothes, no dirt or germs can come near the satellites. this is the project manager. doing some work right here. they have to be so clean, a camera can't come inside here. the camera and the cameraman are outside this room right now,
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this particular satellite, the company is expected to launch this june. >> more satellites mean more business for the company. skybox also plans to keep taking images of emergency and political hot spots on its own dime. >> we find these imaging satellites are a tremendous source of transparency to help humanity on a daily basis. >> as part of that, the company will continue looking for plane wreckage in the indian ocean. gary tuchman, cnn, mountain view, california. >> amazing stuff. the magnitude 5.1 earthquake that rattled walls in southern california. i'm going to show you what it looked like as it happened. plus the latest on the deadly landslide in washington state, what the governor is asking for as the search for victims goes on.
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an earthquake struck southern california over the weekend without warning. here's what it looked like at an ice cream parlor in los angeles. dozens of aftershocks followed. leaving a lot of people very rattled. it struck on a fault that's less well known than the san andreas, but potentially more dangerous. jason carole investigates. >> friday night's performance of
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bye-bye birdie interrupted when the earth started to shake. >> ladies and gentlemen, please stay seated. >> surveillance cameras rolling, with a magnitude 5.1 quake sent a convenience store owner jumping the counter for cover. >> my first reaction was i'm going to run. i saw them run, i said, let's go. >> the owner and others ran outside. a small part of the store's roof was damaged, food knocked into the aisles. >> the floor starts shaking, something's wrong you have to go. >> customers at an ice cream parlor, the home of the eight scoop earthquake sundae got a taste of the real thing. at an apartment near the epicenter, broken pictures, frayed nerves. >> i ran out of my car and ran into the arms of this man. and we were just in the middle
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of the street hugging. >> reporter: the quake centered around 25 miles south of downtown los angeles on the quinta hills fault. one seismologists have been closely watching. >> when we have a big earthquake on the qunta hills, the big shaking is going to be downtown los angeles, hollywood, east l.a. >> reporter: while there were no injuries reported and damage mostly minor, the tremors were a wakeup call of what it means to live in earthquake country. they haven't seen a major one since the 1994 northridge quake. the quake was felt as far aways as las vegas. property damage estimated at $20 billion. >> what was learned after that happened? >> we saw in northridge we need to have those communication channels open, we need to be
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able to respond quickly, not just within ourselves but l.a. city and some of the nearby agencies, one of the big focuses that came out of north ridge. >> reporter: there's an 86% chance of a magnitude 7.0 or greater earthquake hitting california in the next 30 years. aikens says the recent quakes are a reminder to be prepared. while the tremors sent some ducking for cover, his message not being felt by everyone. >> nervous and not prepared. >> i'd say we're sufficiently, sort of ready, as ready as one could be. >> you talk about that 86% chance of a 7.0 or greater earthquake hitting california in the next 30 years. there's no way to predict when or where that can happen? >> right. i mean, it could happen on the san andreas fault, the quinta hills fault. when you think about quinn -- quinta hills, that fault was recently discovered. i believe in 1999, and you look at what happened at north ridge
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