tv Smerconish CNN April 2, 2014 9:00pm-10:01pm PDT
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aircraft's movements. their collective efforts have led us here. in the cities and countries around the world, where families wait and wait desperately for news. and in the vastness of the indian ocean, where mh 370 awaits. i know that until we find the plane, many families can't start to grieve. i can't imagine what they must be going through. but i promise that we will not give up. >> so, taking no questions there in perth. but good evening, everyone.
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this is a cnn special report. staying on top of two big stories, the press conference on mh 370, and the shooting at ft. hood. i want to go to cnn's ed lavandera. this is the breaking news at ft. hood, texas, here in the united states. what do you have for us, ed? >> reporter: various government sources confirmed to cnn tonight that the name of the suspect, the shooter, is ivan lopez. here in this area, we saw military officials surrounding
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an apartment complex. as news of the shooting this afternoon was breaking around the community, an apartment complex where many families live. one of the local stations had reported the name of the suspect. and the wife of the suspect was standing there. and that was how she first heard that her husband was involved in the shooting. a woman that just moved into the complex. and sources say that lopez had just been assigned to the ft.
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hood area a few months ago. he had not been fully diagnosed with ptsd, but had been deployed to iraq back in 2011. and had issues that he was being treated for and also medication. and the .45 caliber handgun was purchased a few days ago, but not registered with officials here at the installation. so, a lot of information as investigators continue to do a great deal of work. three people in all killed. 16 others injured. work being done at local hospitals as well. >> and stand by, because i want
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to bring in my panel of guests. evan perez, general spider marks, and others will join us. ed, i vvan lopez. do we know an age? he has a family, and do we know any more about him? >> reporter: we were told he has a wife, but not the ages of his children. at the apartment complex, there's a great deal of work to be done. and we're also told by a neighbor that the wife did leave the apartment complex area with
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military officials this evening. and we're also told that officials are pouring over his medical records. he hadn't been diagnosed with ptsd, but there were other issues that he was being treated for. he hadn't been here for very long. neighbors said they moved in about a week ago. so, not really an opportunity for many of the people they lived next to to get to know them. and the wife, apparently, didn't speak english very well. so, we'll continue to follow up on that. we're also told by officials that, they wouldn't tell us what
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military installation he was transferred from. but one of the things they were doing, starting to analyze the treatment history that the suspect was going through. so, clearly, an issue of ptsd, mental health. and raising the question, if this was a person going through treatments, how was he able to purchase a weapon a few days ago? so, a great deal of legwork to do. >> and that weapon is a .45 caliber smith and wesson. now, the other breaking news
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story, the hunt for flight 370. we just heard from the australian and malaysian prime ministers. now, we want to hear from our panel. jim tillman, david soucie. and les, a 777 captain. i want to get your reaction to the press conference we heard a short time ago. the prime minister said this was the most difficult search ever undertaken. he said we can't be certain of success, but we will not spare any effort. jeff, he said they may never
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find this plane. >> and he also said this was the most difficult search in human history. he talked about optimism, in the context of human beings working together to search for a plane, but not in the context of finding the plane. >> and the search zone moved again. what does this tell us about the satellite and ping data that they're using? >> well, it's a matter of the assumptions they're using. adjusting them based on other information they're getting. we don't know. that's all it tells us at this point. >> and michael, the search area moved because they were sighting very few objects there. how do you make that
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determination? >> well, because of the vastness of the area, they have to make a quick decision and move on. there's physically so much area to cover. the good news of moving east is that's a little closer. so, the travel time is almost cut in half, going back to the original search area, something like 1,600 miles away. this is 900 miles away. so, the transit times are cut in half. so, more expedited searching in that area. but the thing for me, i'd like to see the northern area. >> you keep talking about that area. >> but tracking up north, in the
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indian ocean. >> so, here's my question. should we expect it to move every couple of days? >> well, if they get to this new area, and manage to cover it expeditiously, it's not going to be with the ships. they travel at 15 knots. it would take a ship three days to cover 1,000 miles. it takes a p8 two hours. so, they have to get into this new area, clear it all, and move to the next location. >> so, there's a question from jennifer. we'll get back to that. pardon me, we'll get back to that. jim tillman, as a pilot, i'm sure you were paying attention to the prime ministers saying, we owe this to the larger
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worldwide flying public. not only to the families, but to get to the bottom of this. do you agree? >> i agree very much. people all over the world are looking at this, with no relation to the people involved directly. they want to know what's going on. this story has done a remarkable thing in terms of getting the attention of the entire world. many of us want a solution to this. and this is an area where we need to have a lot of luck. i seldom use this word, but we do need it. >> and david, he said to the families, please be patient. we will not let you down. tremendous pressure here. >> he said we'll keep on this until it's humanly possible.
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with winter coming up, it may not be. and one of the things i want to make clooear, the families aren looking efforts. although they're herculean efforts. but the families are looking for results. they would need some results. if we can't give that to them, then they will want us to make sure it doesn't happen again. they have the world's view. so, let's start putting forward some fixes. 30 days versus 90 days on the pingers. perhaps it will be different, and it will force governments to
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we're live for a special report on flight 370. here's my panel, jim tillman, michael cape, steven marks, an aviation attorney, and les abbo abbott. now this poll asks, what most likely happened to flight 370? 35% of americans say it crashed due to mechanical problems. 22%, crashed due to the pilots. and 12% say it was destroyed by terrorists. and 9% say it landed safely and
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is in hiding. has any of this changed for you? >> i'm with the 35% that say it's a mechanical problem. i would like to see us head in the direction of more specific search areas. i think narrowing down the search area is important. the speculation over who done it is up to the authorities. let's find the airplane and let that process go on its own. >> you want to focus on the search to get the investigation on it as soon as possible. and steven, where do you fall on this? 22% say it was crashed by the
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pilots. is there any motive for that? steven? how about mike? >> well, the problem is, we don't have enough evidence to completely eliminate any of the four options. as les was wisely saying, we just need to keep putting the jigsaw together. eliminate data supporting various theories, and go with the most likely scenarios. because of history, it's most likely mechanical failure. but we don't have enough evidence to eliminate any of them at the moment. >> and jim tillman, 22% say it was crashed intentionally by the pilots. any evidence for that? >> well, we may be looking at
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the wrong place. i'm curious to know if we're really on the right side of the ocean. because i don't really feel confident, frankly, that we're going to find what we're looking for where we're looking for it. we need to go back to where we knew it was, and work from there. otherwise, we may be spinning our we'heels. >> and i think the australian prime minister may agree with you a bit. they may never solve the mystery, but he would spare no expense and go without rest to try to get to the bottom of it. but the plane may never be found. and how about 9% saying the
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plane landed somewhere and is hiding. it could have landed on an island somewhere. who is investigating, jeff wise? >> we know it didn't end up in diego garcia. but at a conference between the authorities and the chinese family members, it was reiterated that the last known heading of the plane was towards the islands. this has been overlooked in the reporting over the last few
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weeks. there's currently no known information known to us that the plane turned in one direction rather than the other. >> hold that thought. you're saying this. jim tillman is saying, we don't know if we're looking on the right side of the ocean. >> and the heading that it took when it left there. >> and michael is saying we don't know if we should look to the north. are you saying that we may not be in the right search area? >> it's possible. >> les? >> well, i like to think that
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greater minds than mine are w working on this. it could mean greater fuel burn, and greater distance. i'm still leaning that way, but i still don't know. >> and if you don't believe it's in the right place, if you're not sure, imagine that we're just spinning our wheels, and everyone out there, looking in the wrong place? imagine that. we'll be right back on the hunt for flight 370. including what it might take to put cameras in the cockpit. when we come right back. i have low testosterone. there, i said it. how did i know? well, i didn't really. see, i figured low testosterone would decrease my sex drive... but when i started losing energy and became moody...
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i'm don lemon. breaking news tonight, more on the search for flight 370. a worldwide obsession. but what if it could have been solved with a security camera? why aren't we monitoring cockpits? here's stephanie elam. >> reporter: everything pilots say is recorded. but unlike other modes of transportation -- cameras are
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keeping an eye on train conductors. and the mystery of flight 370 has reenergized this desire. mike karn says that cameras would be intrusive. >> i want the pilot worried about flying the aircraft. and current technology allows you to monitor so many other parameters, it's not necessary. >> reporter: in 2000, the ntsb recommended that the industry record in two data recorders. but in the last 14 years, that has gone nowhere beyond that
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suggestion. >> this would be limited to accident investigation use. and otherwise, would not be available for viewing by anyone. >> reporter: jim hall was chairman of the ntsb when the recommendation was made. >> the cameras would focus on the instruments and on the manipulations that were made. >> we see them edging more and more towards infringing on the privacy of pilots. >> i hope we won't want until we have a similar incident involving a united states airline and united states
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citizens to take the action necessary to provide for the safety and security of the traveling public. >> reporter: stephanie elam, cnn. >> and i want to bring back my panel here. jim tillman, many people have been surprised that there were no camera in the cockpit. should they be mandatory going forward? >> no. the pilot is scrutinized more completely than any other profession on the planet. they know that we have moved the controls a certain way. they know we moved certain power
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settings. and moved to certain altitudes. >> but not in this case. we don't have that information in this case. >> we wouldn't know it if the camera was there, either. >> but we would if it was streamed. >> well, now that's different technology. this didn't start today. if you took a poll of airline pilots across the world, and found out if they had any interest in having a camera, very few would say that. >> well, when i walk into this building, seven cameras. into the newsroom, cameras there. in the hallway, a camera.
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in the elevator, a camera. in the back of the plane, cameras from people sitting there. les, why should there not be cameras in the cockpit? because some pilot is worried that his privacy may be interrupted or destroyed? >> well, don, i -- captain tillman's statements, i agree with a lot of them. it's intrusive. >> i understand that. >> but let me explain it further. it's left to misinterpretation. there's no way you can get the pilot out of the picture. it's left to misinterpretation. many years ago, captain tillman
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would agree that we had cameras in the takeoff process. we took it off because we ended up with misinterpretations of it by passengers and tiattorneys. >> what is misinterpretation? i don't understand. >> well, put in public hands, it could be misinterpreted. >> but it won't be put in public hands unless there's a situation. it's like surveillance video from a store or from city cameras that are in the streets of every major city. that's not public unless there's a problem and a subpoena to get
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the video. >> well, unless there are safeguards in place, you're never going to get any pilot to sign off on it. we used this for information off the digital flight data recorder. but keeping it anonymous so it doesn't matter that this is occurring by one specific pilot. it could be by many. and the same thing for the cameras in the cockpit. if we have safeguards, we may start to reconsider that. >> jeff, are they fighting a losing battle here? >> well, it's the way that society is going. everything is being watched and automated. the technology is there to
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back with the breaking news for malaysian flight 370. there was just a joint press conference with the malaysian prime minister and the australian prime minister. we had a heated discussion with my panel about cameras in the cockpit. i don't know if any other profession in the world can an employee say, i don't want cameras. in operating rooms, they're
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there. why should this be different? >> well, we are in exactly the same position now. >> let me tell you why we're not. if it's streaming to the point, where it gets over the ocean, at least you have investigation to the point where it's no longer live streaming. >> and you're telling me, every single jet, thousands of jets every single day, will live stream for every single flight. >> to the point where it can't live stream anymore. anyway, go on.
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finish your thought. >> well, the guys are picking up a computer data system, the acars. if someone wants to do something subversive in the cockpit, they can shut down the camera. >> maybe we should have transponders that can't be shut off. right, jeff wise? >> well, the president of the united states used to record all of his conversations. and it didn't work out well for nixon. >> he has cameras that follows him every day. >> richard nixon -- >> when les is at home, he doesn't have to have cameras on him. but at work, why not?
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>> don, how is this going to increase safety levels if you have a camera in my cockpit? >> well, we've got to move on. we'll get back to this discussion. i want to get the latest on the search for flight 370. can you tell us about the search operation? we know it's been moved. what can you tell us? >> not much more than that, actually. the airborne has moved slightly north on information that the satellite has provided us. we're trying to make sure the modeling is correct. apart from that, we're continuing. >> and squadron leader fox, how
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confiden con fident are you that you're n the right area? >> that is correct, our job is to search it. we're confident that the area will eventually lead to something. it's vast, and we need to break it down, day by day. if we were to do it quickly, there's a high chance we would miss it. so, we just need the time to get there and narrow it down. >> and the prime minister said that a gulf stream jet is assisting you. is that helpful? >> yes. we have them helping coordinate the communications and others
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we're back live with more on flight 370. what happens when a moment of crisis lasts for 27 years? not one piece of evidence as to the fate of that plane. all investigators need is one break from the search zone. miguel marquez has more. >> reporter: were the malaysians more quick to recognize that something may be wrong here and shared that, would it have helped? >> i got an inkling that it was happening that way when they changed the search area.
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>> reporter: that could have focused the search. searchers now redoubling efforts to find any debris. a critical piece of the puzzle. >> if we could find a piece of the wreckage, we would then be able to narrow the search to a much smaller area. >> reporter: like a trail of bread crumbs, that could lead investigators to the plane. >> we could take that and backtrack it to the wreckage. >> reporter: she used math ma mathemati mathematics. >> we weigh everything and
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assess the uncertainties. and come up with a map. >> reporter: this is the actual area and simulated currents where searchers are now looking. >> the current is flowing strong this way, this way, and this way. you describe it as a washing machine. >> like a big, swirling cesspool. if you find debris in the box, it probably came from the box originally. >> reporter: and that last known position, the little diamond in the red. debris was found in the area in blue. the actual plane found just two years later, just a short way from its last known location.
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>> it was the last position transmitted by acars. >> reporter: and that was the actual location. so, seven or eight miles away. >> right, it didn't get very far. >> reporter: mh 370, much tougher. a much vaster area. miguel marquez, cnn. >> and in malaysia, all passengers have been cleared of criminal acts. i want to bring in my team. probably a little less animated than cameras in the cockpit. but what does it mean that they haven't cleared the crew,
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michael kay? >> well, this isn't my area of expertise. doing background checks, in terms of the crew, that's a more likely area. if there are any abnormalities in the crew. and the previous flights of the captain and copilot. so, there are logical questions to answer. you don't have to be an fbi investigator to delve into those areas. >> and jeff, why say it was not a criminal act? >> well, they're signaling where
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they're going. the path that the plane took after it deviated from its assigned route. and then the pings, that's all we've got. looking at the flight route, maneuvered through an intentional, zig-zag pattern. what the malaysians are saying, this was an intentional act, a criminal act, saying that they've cleared the passengers, what they're putting the hammer on this idea that they believe it was the crew. >> and this question from jennifer, tweeting, what does malaysia know that we don't? is there something they know that we don't?
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>> well, apparently, they do. for any normal investigation, they should keep these things to themselves until they get firm data. but there are so many questions, this may have become an open investigation. >> and the pilot and copilot can no longer be alone in the cockpit? is this already in place in the united states, les? >> right. that surprised me, and it's more or less a regulation of sorts, or procedure that's been in place since 9/11. >> all right. stick around. we'll be back with more live coverage of the search for flight 370.
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he says they will spare no rest or effort. what does that say to you? >> well, there has been so much consistency from malaysia, australia has salvaged this. i think tony abbott is doing a fantastic job. >> and we can't be certain of ultimate success. what do you think, jim? >> well, we can't be certain. we just need to make the very best effort so that everyone is assured that we're making the best effort. >> les? >> the ultimate success is finding an absolute probable cause. that's what he may mean. we'll find the airplane.
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>> thank you for staying with us. cnn's live coverage of flight 370 and the ft. hood shooting continues live from atlanta. this is cnn breaking news. >> hello and welcome to our viewers in the united states and around the world. >> a gunman opened fire at an american military base. >> we'll have complete coverage of that coming up. and live reports from texas and australia, next on cnn "newsroom." and big question after yet another shooting at the ft. hood military base in
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