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>> reporter: various government sources confirmed to cnn that the name of the suspected shooter is ivan lopez. we saw military officials surrounding the apartment complex, waiting for fbi investigators to come. we spoke with one neighbor, who told us that inside the complex, as news was breaking, this apartment complex where various military families live. standing outside, watching and talking and hearing the news. a local station reported the name of the suspect, and the wife of the suspect was there.
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that was the first time that she heard the news. and we're told that she didn't speak english very well, and had just moved into the complex. and lopez has just been assigned, moved into ft. hood in february. but officials say that the suspect in this case had been undergoing treatment for mental and behavioral issues. as well as medication. ft. hood officials also say that the handgun used in the attack was bought just a few days ago. but not registered with
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authorities at ft. hood. and investigators continuing to do a great deal of work. three people in all killed. 16 others injured. and a great deal of work being done at local hospitals. some in critical condition there. we'll continue to monitor that as well. >> and i want to bring in my panel. evan perez in washington. general spider marks as well. and i want to stick with ed. and we'll get those guys up to talk about the investigation. ivan lopez, he's married and has a family in the base area. do we know anything else about him? >> we're told he had a wife and
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kids. we do not know their ages. but we do know, at the apartment complex, a great deal of work about to be under way. going through computers, belongings. and we're told that the wife left the area with military officials earlier. and they're pouring over his medical records. even though he had not been diagnosed officially with ptsd, there were anxiety and mental issues. he arrived here in february. and the neighbor we spoke with said they moved into the
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apartment complex about a week ago. and on top of that, it appears that the wife didn't speak english very well. so, hard for the neighbors to get to know them all that quickly. and officials wouldn't tell us which military installation this individual transferred from, but we do know it was from in texas. and they're going back there, going through the medical records and beginning the process of analyzing the treatment history this individual was going through. an issue tonight of ptsd, mental health. and raising the issue, if this individual was going through these treatments, how were they
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able to purchase the gun just a few days ago? >> and that weapon is a .45 caliber smith and wesson semiautomatic. thank you, ed. we'll get back to you and update later this hour. now, the hunt for flight 370. we just heard from the australian and malaysian prime ministers. jeff wise, jim tillman, michael kay, and david soucie, and les abben. well, the press conference, this
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statement stood out to me. when the prime minister said, this is the most difficult search ever undertaken. but also said we can't be certain of ultimate success, but we won't rest. he said they may never find the plane. >> right. and said this was the most difficult search in human history. he did talk about optimism in the context of human beings working together to co-operate o search, but not in terms of finding the plane. >> and the search zone moved a bit tonight. what does that tell us about the satellite and ping data they're using? >> well, it's a matter of the
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assumptions they're using. we don't know. >> and officials say that the search area moved because they were spotting very few objects there. how do you make that determination? >> it's a great question. because of the vastness of the area they're searching, they have to make a quick decision. if they're confident they've covered that area, they have to move on. the slight good news is that it's slightly closer to perth. that means the transit times for the search planes has been almost cut in half. going back to the original search area, it was something
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like 1,600 miles away. now it's 900 miles. so, more expedited searching in that area. and i would like to see the northern area, tracking back there. >> you keep talking about the northern area. >> no, excuse me, going knnorthn the indian ocean. if they -- the ships are just not designed to cover vast amounts of area. they travel at 15 knots. it would take a ship three days
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to cover 1,000 miles. it takes a p8 three hours. >> and a question from jennifer -- we'll get back to that. so, jim tillman, as a pilot, i'm sure you're paying attention to the prime ministers saying, listen, we owe this to the larger worldwide flying public. not just to the families, but to get to the bottom of this. do you agree? >> i agree very much. people all over the world are looking at this. people with no relation to the folks involved. this has been remarkable in terms of getting the attention of the entire world. it's one of the area's we're
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going to have to have a lot of luck. i seldom use that word, but we're going to need it. >> and david, he said to the families, please be patient. we will not let you down. tremendous pressure. >> and there's a point at which it's not humanly possible. with winter coming up. and i want to make something clear, dealing with the families and what they're going through right now. they're not looking for efforts. although they're herculean efforts. these families are looking for results. that's their measure of success. it's not the effort, although it's amazing. they need results. if we can't give that to them, then they want to make sure this
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doesn't happen again. and we have the world's view. this time, let's take the information and start putting forward fixes. 30 days versus 90 days on the pingers. perhaps it will be different this time, and force governments to take action out of the recommendations of this investigation. time to start moving forward, showing the families that their voices are being heard and that they're supported. >> when we come back, more on the breaking news on the hunt for flight 370, right after this.
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well, a poll finds that 35% believe it was crashed by mechanical problems. 22% believe it was crashed by pilots. and 12%, destroyed by terrorists. and 9% say it landed safely. has anything changed your mind? les? >> i'm with the 35% that think it's honestly a mechanical problem. i would like to see us head in the direction of more specific
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search area spots. dave and mike have discussed this over the period of time. and narrowing the search area is so important. i think that who did it is best left to authorities. let's find the plane. >> and let's talk about this a little bit more. steven? where do you fall on this. crashed by the pilots? is there any possible motive for this, do you believe? steven marks? we don't have steven marks. i'll ask you about this, mike. >> well, the problem is, we don't have enough evidence to eliminate any one of the four options. so, as les was saying, quite wisely, we just need to keep
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putting the jigsaw puzzle together. eliminate the data that supports various scenarios. the most likely one is me can fa cal problems. >> and 22%, jim. intentionally crashed by the pilots. any possibility of that? >> well, i worry that we may be looking at the wrong place. i'm curious to know if we know anything about the last heading before the plane went out of sight. i don't really feel confident
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that we're going to find what we're looking for where we're looking for it. we need to go back to square one where we're certain, and go from there. otherwise, we may be spinning our wheels. >> and the australian prime minister may agree with you. he said that they may not be able to solve the mystery, but will not rest until they -- and the 9%, asked whether the plane could have been landed somewhere. diego garcia. state of the art radar. what's up with that?
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who's investigating, jeff wise? >> well, we know that it didn't end up in diego garcia. but today, in a conference between the authorities and the chinese family reiterated that known heading of this plane was to the northwest. this was towards the end of islands and this is an important piece that has been overlooked i think in reporting over the last few weeks. there's now currently no known information known to the public, known to us to determine if the plane went in one direction rather than another. >> hold that thought. you are saying this and jim tillman is saying he's not sure if we are looking in the right
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area of the ocean. is it in the ocean? >> i'm not certain about that. i have never had an answer to where the plane was the last time we knew about the whereabouts and the heading it took when it left there. >> he is saying they should look further north. i'm not sure about you, les, but are we 0 in consensus that we are not even -- we may not even be in the right search area? >> i think -- i certainly feel that way. >> les? >> yeah, don, i'd like to think there are greater minds than i am that at least we're calculating this appropriately. my question is, yeah, i'm kind of with mikey with reference to moving the search area north because of my theory that the 12,000 foot altitude is still in play it may mean lesser distance. i'm leaning that wachl i'm not there on that part of that
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investigation. >> you have been exploring this more than probably most except for the investigators who are in the middle of this actually doing the investigating for the search. if you don't believe it's the in the right place, if you are not sure, imagine we are just spinning our wheels and all of the apparatus, all the personnel and women and men out there looking in the wrong place. imagine that. we will be back on the hunt for flight 370 including what it could take to put cameras in the cockpit when we come right back. defiance is in our bones. defiance never grows old. citracal maximum. calcium citrate plus d. highly soluble, easily absorbed.
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i'm don lemon. breaking news tonight. more on the search for flight 370. the mystery is a worldwide obsession. what if the whole thing could have been solved with the push of a button on a cockpit camera? convenience stores have security cams, policemen have dashboard cameras, why aren't we monitoring cockpits? here's stephanie elam. >> we are descending to 3,000. >> as pilots guide commercial planes across the skies everything they say is recorded. but unlike other modes of
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transportation, we can't see what's happening at the controls. cameras have shed light on accidents like when the bus driver was caught on surveillance camera texting just before rear ending an suv. cameras are keeping an eye on train conductors and now the mystery surrounding malaysia flight 370 has reenergized the debate of putting cameras in the cockpit. >> the amount of information that they are deriving from the aircraft exceeds anything in the other transport industries. >> the coalition of pilots association says cameras would be intrusive. >> why not put cameras in the cockpit? >> i want the pilot worried about flying the plane and current technology allow youls to monitor so many perimeters it is not necessary. in 2000, the ntsb recommended the federal aviation administration require airlines to record electronic images data
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included in two cockpit data recorders, one the front of the plane, not the rear. in the last 14 years the recommendation has gone nowhere beyond being a suggestion. >> this information would be limited to accident investigation use. otherwise would not be available for viewing by anyone. >> jim haugh was chairman of the ntsb when the recommendation you made. after the investigation of several crashes found there wasn't enough cockpit data to determine what went wrong. >> the cameras would not be on the face of either of the pilot or the co-pilot. they would focus on the instruments and manipulations made. >> we see it edging more and more toward taking the privacy of the pilots. we are doing our job up there and i'd rather focus on my job than what people are seeing. >> he says it higher priority
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than pilot privacy. >> i hope we won't wait until we have a similar incident involving united states airline and united states citizens to take the action necessary to provide for the safety and security of the traveling public. >> stephanie elam, cnn. >> i want to bring back my team experts. jim tillman a retired american airlines pilot, former adviser to the u.k. ministry of defense, a military pilot and tactical instruction and a 777 captain. jim, to you first. many people have been surprised there are no cameras in the cockpit already. should they be mandatory moving forward? >> no. i say that because i think to begin with the airline pilot is a member of a profession that is scrutinized more carefully and completely than any other profession on the planet.
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they know everything that's going on that we are doing, every move we make. because it is recorded in terms of how it is affected. they know we have moved the controls a way, they know we moved a certain power setting or we climbed to certain altitude. >> you are saying that but not in this case. we don't have that information in this case. >> you wouldn't have it if the camera was there either. can't find the rest of the wreckage. >> if the camera had streamed we would have that. >> well, now we are talking about a different level of technology. you are talking about streaming information out of the cockpit. all of these things are wonderful ideas but this isn't original. this didn't just start today. if you took a poll of airplane pilots across the tworld find out whether or not they have interest in having a camera in that cockpit i think you would be amazed to know how few would say -- >> i understand that. i understand that you are a pilot and -- but listen, when i
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walk in this building or outside of the studio, obviously there are cameras around me, six, seven cameras. i'm on television. when i walk out-the newsroom there are cameras, the elevator has a camera. when i'm in the back of the plane there are cameras from people who are sitting there. there are cameras all over. les, why should there bt not be cameras in the cockpit simply because a pilot is worried his privacy may be interrupted or destroyed or taken away from him? why can't that camera be on the instruments in the cockpit? why shouldn't pilots have cameras up there? >> captain tillman's statements are -- i agree with a lot of them. it is intrusive. we can all agree with that. no matter what our work environment. >> i understand it is intrusive but it is intrusive in every work environment. >> let me explain it further. it is left to misinterpretation. you can see the actions of a pilot doing something -- there's no way you will get the pilot out of the picture, despite what
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mr. hough says. it is left to misinterpretation. years ago, captain phil tillman will agree with me, that aboard some of our planes we had cameras to be filmed during a takeoff process. it was a fun thing for our passengers to see in a public way, but we eventually took it off the plane because we ended up with misinterpretation of that by passengers and attorneys and it just got out of hand. whether this really helps our situation, i don't know. >> what is the misinterpretation. i don't understand. >> well, what the pilot is actually doing, moving flap levers, moving controls. it possibly put in pub lick hands can be misinterpreted. >> but it won't be put in public hands unless there is an investigation. it's just like surveillance video from a convenience store. surveillance video that is on one of the city cameras that are
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located all over the streets of every major city. that's not public unless there is some type of investigation and usually if there is a stop get the video. >> i get that. my -- unless there are safeguards in place that this cannot be used for disciplinary purposes, you are never going to get any pilot to sign off on it. we have used this type of stuff for the information that's off the digital flight data recorder. that's very useful information. because we are catching safety trends. we are keeping it anonymous so it doesn't matter that this is occurring by one specific pilot but it could be by many. we change procedures according to that. the same thing with the cockpit voice recorder -- excuse me, with cameras in there. if we have safeguards, we may start to reconsider that process. >> we have to get to a break here. jeff, are they fighting a losing battle here, do you think? >> it's the way society's going,
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isn't it? we are being watched more and more. everything is automated more and more. the technology definitely exists to stream, which i know is a different issue, this idea of information constantly streamed and surveyed. >> i think people would say if everyone in every single situation in public and even at their job, everyone is on camera, why shouldn't pilots be on camera? why is their profession differently and that's why i challenge you on that. it is afternoon in australia and the search for flight 370 is well underway. we will have the latest live when we come right back. the ch? [thinking] i'm still working. he's retired. i hope he's saving. i hope he saved enough. who matters most to you says the most about you. at massmutual we're owned by our policyowners, and they matter most to us. whether you're just starting your 401(k) or you are ready for retirement, we'll help you get there.
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other place in the world can someone who's an employee of someone else say, i do not want cameras on me. even in operating rooms, courtrooms, every once in a while you will not have cameras in certain courtrooms, but why should pilots be any different? >> i think we need to have this argument or debate in the context of mh-370. if you have cameras in the cockpit and they are not live streamed -- we'll talk about live streaming in a second and they are recorded on to a black box or some sort of data recorder, we are in exactly the same position. >> no, we're not. hang on. let me tell you why we're not. >> let me finish the sentence. >> because if it is streaming to the point where it is over the oelgs and there's no capability of live streaming at least you have the information up to the point where there is no more live streaming. go on. >> so basically, you are telling me every single jet and there are thousands of jets that cross transoceanic flights every day
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will live stream for the whole flight? i don't think a, there's the bandwidth. >> it will live stream to the point where it can't live stream anymore. any way, go on. finish your thought. >> i'm just saying the guys are only picking up what is a computer data linking system that allows them to talk there i the acars and if the acars can be turned off which isn't supposed to be turned off, anyone who wants to do something subversive will disable the cameras. cctv isn't the be and end all to crimes. >> maybe we should have cameras, transponders and acars that can't be turned off. that would solve that problem, wouldn't it? >> why don't we just -- >> i think you are wrong in saying that everyone has cameras on them. the president of the united states used to record kfgss. >> the united states has cameras following him every day.
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he has a videographer that follows him and there are cameras as well. >> when les abend is at home he doesn't have to have cameras on him but at work in the cockpit why shouldn't he have cameras on him? >> how is this going to increase safety levels if you have a camera in my cockpit? >> you guys keep saying that. in this particular case this may have changed. listen, we have to move on. we will get back to this discussion. i appreciate all of you. get the latest on the search from 370. joining me on the phone is leon fox from the royal new zealand air force. can you tell us about the search operation? how it's going. we know it has been moved. what can you tell us? >> it has moved slightly north based on updated information. we are continuing to drop buoys
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in the area to make sure the modeling is correct. apart from that you have it continuing. >> squadron leader fox, again, the search area has been moved a little bit. how confident are you, you know, that you are in the right area? does it matter? you are going to continue to search, i would imagine, if you feel you are in the right area or not. it's your job to surgery that area. >> that's correct. it's our job to search it. we are confident the areas we are getting will eventually leading to finding something. the area is absolutely massive. we have to systemically break it down and search it day by day to cover it thoroughly and properly. if we did it quickly there is a chance we would misparts. it will take time to get there and narrow it down. >> new zealand director peter jackson said a jet is assisting you in that search. i think it is a gulfstream jet.
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is that helpful in the operation, do you think? >> they are hopeful. every asset is helpful. we have them helping to coordinate the communications back to rcc and other ones that help with the search, and royal air force helping with the military jets, as well. every asset is helpful. >> thank you very much. we appreciate you. when we come right back, much more on today's search for flight 370. can we learn important lessons from another missing plane? gotta get going. gotta be good. good? good. growth is the goal. how do we do that? i talked to ups. they'll help us out. new technology. smart advice. we focus on the business and they take care of the logistics. ups? good going. we get good. that's great. great. great. great. great. great. great. great. great. (all) great! i love logistics.
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we're back live with more on flight 370. what happens when a moment of crisis lasts 27 years? weeks after it vanished, not one piece of evidence as to the fate of the plane. all that investigators behind the scenes need is one break from the search zone. miguel mar kwez has more -- >> what went wrong with the investigation? >> were the malaysians more quick to recognize that something may be wrong here and share that more broadly within the international community? would that have helped?
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i think it would have helped. in fact, i have an inkling it was happening that way when they changed the search area to the other search area. >> better organization, sharing of resources in the early days could have focused the search. searchers now redoubling efforts to find any shred of debris, a critical piece of the puz le. >> if we can find a piece wreckage, some debris we will be able to narrow the search to a smaller area. >> like a trail of bread crumbs it would lead investigators to the plane. >> we can take that and backtrack it using detailed computer simulations. >> she helped to locate the wreckage of flight 3447 with math. every scrap of data plugged in to a numbers crunching equation. >> the acars hits off of
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satellites and the last radar and the endurance of the plane. we weight everything and assess uncertainties and come up with a probability map. >> current and wind patterns. this is the area and simulated currents where searchers are now looking. here the current is going very strong this way. very strong that way, very strong this way. literally three different. >> yeah. >> you describe this as a washing machine. >> i looked at this and thought it looks like a swirling cesspool or washing machine. >> modeling so far shows debris moving very little from the place it entered the water. >> wherever that the debris is could be close to where the wreckage is you are saying. >> right. if you find debrees in this box it probably came from the box originally. >> the case of the air france flight, the plane's last known position, the tiny diamond in the middle of the red is the most likely place to find the
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plane. floating debris found on top of the circle, the area in blue. the actual plane found two years later, a short way from its last known location. >> that was the last known location pick ed up by the acars or engines. >> it was the last position transmitted by acars. they transmitted that. >> it was the actual location. so we are talking seven, eight miles away. >> didn't get very far. >> the hunt for mh 370 tougher, so little data, such a vast area. miguel marquez, cnn. breaking news here on cnn. planes and ships are kris cross crisscrossing the area. they have ruled it a criminal act and all passengers have been cleared. i want to bring in my team of experts to talk about this. probably less animated
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conversation than cameras in the cockpit but important nonetheless. how could they have clear ed all 227 passengers in this and what does it mean that they have haven't cleared the crew, michael kay? >> i mean, this isn't my area of expertise in the fbi approach on the investigations, doing background checks on every passenger on board. in terms of the crew, i think that's a more likely area to focus on and i think it would be easier to narrow down whether there were abnormalities in crew behavior, either prior to the flight or in previous flights. something we haven't learned a lot of, what were the previous flights of the pilot and co-pilot. where did they last do sorties and who were the crew that worked with them on the last sorties and did they spot anything abnormal. there are a lot of questions to be asked. you don't have to be an fbi investigator to delve in to possible scenarios. >> the same question, jeff.
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why rule out the passengers but not the pilot and co-pilot and say it was a criminal contact? >> they are signaling where they are going with the investigation. this is a note they have been hitting from the beginning. we have two pieces to the puzzle. we have the path the plane took shortly after it deviated from its assigned route and pings that tell us where it wound up. that's all we have really got. if you look at the flight route, it was maneuvered through a rather intentional and zigzag pattern. so it was not zombie phenomenon that is popular over the internet. the ma latzians are saying it was an intentional, criminal act and by saying they cleared the other passengers, which seems a monumental task. how can you rule out behavior by a human being, any way, but they are putting the hammer on the idea that they believe it was the crew. >> okay. let's get this question. this is from jennifer who
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tweets, what does malaysia know that we don't? to pursue criminal charges. we haven't found anything. what do you think the malaysians know. do you think they know something we don't? >> apparently they do and i'm not surprised. and actually for any normal investigation they should keep some of these things to themselves until they get firm data to go to the bank on. we have so many questions that have so important to so many people now this may have to be an investigation where they open up and become more transparent. >> uh-huh. so malaysia airlines changing security procedure where the pilot and co-pilot can no longer be alone in the cockpit. how big of a deal is this? aren't these rules already in place in the united states, les abend? >> that's why the communication surprised me. they are an international carrier and it is a regulation
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i want to ask you this, this is from the australian prime minister, tony abbott. he said we cannot be certain of ultimate success in the search, but we will spare no rest and no effort. what does that mean to you, michael? >> i think there's been so much inconsistency and discrediting information coming out of malaysia, that i think australia have salvaged this in terms of the investigation right from the prime minister all the way down to the military and the civilian search operation. so, i personally think that tony abbott is doing a fantastic job in leading the investigation on an international sglefl we cannot be certain of the ultimate success. jim tilmon. >> we can't be certain of the ultimate success. we can't be certain that tomorrow is thursday or frichld we can be certain that we have the intention of making the best effort so that everybody involved can be reassured that nobody can do it better. >> jeff wise, i will give you ten seconds. >> he is cooling us off and
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getting ready for the whole thing to wind down. >> the ultimate success is finding an probable cause and that's what he may mean. we're find the plane. >> i'm don lemon. thank you for the shooter is dead from a self-inflicted gunshot wound. >> welcome to our viewers in the united states and around the world for this special edition of cnn newsroom. we are following two major stories this hour, the deadly shooting at america's biggest army base and the search for malaysia airlines flight 370. and very late wednesday night we learned the identity of the fort hood shooter. officials say army specialist ivan lopez killed three people before committing suicide. 16 others were wounded, several in critical condition. the fort hood commanderay
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