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years. and then as you play with technology, can move much further along larger, more batteries and lower frequency and last multiple years and ranges that are 10 to 20 kilometers. >> so glad you showed it to us and your skype came back. thank you, chad myers. thank you, and to you the viewers, for being with us this hour. have a good weekend. my colleague, wolf blitzer, starts right now. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com hello, i'm wolf blitzer reporting from washington. the search for malaysia airlines flight 370 has gone under water and it's now a race against time. crews are trying to locate the plane's black boxes before battery-powered pingers go silent. here are the latest developments. the australian ship "ocean shield," equipped with a u.s. pinger detector, is scouring 150-mile track beneath the indian ocean right now. the british royal ship, hmsecho
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is also scanning the ocean. the search above the water is moving full speed ahead. 14 aircraft and 11 ships were involved in today's search. and more frustration for the families of the 239 people on board the plane. malaysian officials won't let them listen to the audio recording of the last communication between the pilots and air traffic controllers. they say it's still part of the ongoing investigation. as we mentioned, the certain for flight 370 is a race against time. the batteries on the pingers from the missing plane were only expected to last about 30 days, maybe at tops 40 or 45. and this is day 28. paula newton is joining us now from perth, australia. the staging point for the aircraft involved in this search. paula, we know there is a sense of urgency surrounding this underwater search. but the process itself is oh so slow. and painstaking. give us a sense of what's involved, and what the limitations are. >> reporter: well, you know, the
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commander in charge says it's basically like walking the ocean surface. they're doing it with that tow ping locater. it takes a long time. but wolf, they are working at this 24/7 for the next 10 to 12 days. i think, you know, the most disconcerting thing is that the commander himself describes it as a shot in the dark. the point is, wolf, it's got about 150-mile track. you've got the "hmsecho" in one direction, they will converge, it will take a few days. they are hoping that they are lucky and they will still hear those pingers from beneath the ocean surface. but right now they're telling us nothing more than guesswork. >> paula, it's been, what, exactly four weeks now since the plane disappeared. four weeks of anguish and pain for the relatives of those on board. what are you hearing from family members about the -- all the uncertainty over where to search? >> reporter: it's torturing
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them, wolf. i spoke with danica weeks just a few hours ago. incredibly, wolf, she lives just a ten-minute drive from this base. her husband, paul weeks, an engineer, on his way to mongolia, on flight 370, wolf, she has a lot of the same questions that we've been asking over the last few weeks about what happened to this flight. take a listen. >> i've got all confidence in the search. if it's there, they will find it. but are they in the right place? it's all calculations. it's all guesswork. is -- is science behind it, obviously. and -- but all they've got is some pings to go on. but i just -- just as a general normal person or household wife here in perth, i just assume, obviously wrongly, that they always knew where planes were. i thought that just went without thinking about. >> reporter: she just can't believe that this plane with her
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husband on board would just vanish like that. wolf, she says it does give her a measure of comfort, in her words, they are looking for paul. wolf? >> heartbreaking story this past four weeks. and it continues. paula, thanks very much. so new advanced devices are now being deployed under water. this is a change in the entire operation. but no one knows for sure where the plane is. and they have some indications. but that's it. the pinger batteries on the flight recorders, they are running out. so is this basically a high-tech hail mary? let's bring in our panel of experts. mark weise is a c this n aviation analyst, former 777 pilot. peter goelz is a cnn aviation analyst, former ntsb managing director. tom fuentes, our cnn law enforcement analyst, former assistant director of the fbi. peter, they're looking for something. they say this is the best they have. but certainly doesn't seem like they still have any concrete
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evidence that where the under water devices are, they may be very high-tech. that they're going in the right direction. >> wolf, the only thing i can say, i think it's an act of desperation. unless they're acting on some sort of, you know, information that they've received recently, the idea that you've got a towed pinger going at two-and-a-half knots with a width of about two miles to three miles, searching in a size of idaho, this is just -- this is just a stunt. >> because if you go at that pace, that could take years to cover that area. >> it's a stunt. and i think, you know, they had to do something. they had to put the pinger in the water. but unless they have got some classified information that says here's where it is, this is a waste of time. >> i have to hope they do, that there is some sensitive information. i how they collected that information. maybe the u.s. or others have
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provided some classified information. you know what, we can't tell you why, but go ahead and look in this area. >> you would hope so, wolf. but why not sooner than -- you would think we would have had something along those lines sooner in this. but even if that's a fact, that they just obtained classified information or just located, you know, a secret ship has been under water there, and discovered something, and they're passing it on and that's why, but it just seems -- i agree with peter. it just seems unusual, and like a stunt when you say we're going to take this equipment out to that part of the ocean and sink it in the water and can only search a win or two-mile area when you have thousands of miles to deal with. it just seems pretty unlikely. >> this new location, the third or fourth or fifth location that they have been looking at, if there is one little change in the calculation from those satellite or radar pings or whatever, that could change the overall direction dramatically. >> you know, from the very beginning, wolf, we really didn't have a whole the lot of
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information to go on. i don't think we have a lot more information now. so every time they seem to refine the data that they have, maybe they're changing the winds aloft. maybe they're changing for the different fuel calculations. they seem to close that area, make it a little smaller each time. and as everybody here has said, hopefully they've got other information that really will help locate this. >> peter, they're still looking on the surface. they've got planes flying around. they have seen a lot of junk, nothing connected to wreckage from a plane. but the new development over the past 24 hours is that they are now sending this high-tech underwater equipment in there. hoping to hear that ping from the batteries. from the black boxes. there's this blue fin 21 that's also sent to the area. but they're not using that yet, because they don't know where to send it. >> they don't know where to look, no. they haven't heard a thing. and this is really a very hail mary would be a positive thing.
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at least you've got a shot at that. somebody might catch it. right? is in this situation, it is just frustratingly slow. and it's just not going to happen. unless they've got better information. >> all the areas you were investigating for the ntsb, have you ever seen anything like this before? >> this has been absolutely inexplicab inexplicable. this is as tough a situation as i've seen. and i don't think it's been handled very well. you can't raise expectations. if you're putting the pinger in the water, what for? why are you putting it there? and every time they revise the search location, they're not explaining why they're doing it. what is it, another guess? okay, we're going to guess here. well, the confidence of not just the family members, but the public, i think, is waning. >> have you ever seen an aviation mystery like this? >> no. and i think peter is exactly right. the media doesn't help either when now we've refined the search and that means it's a
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better location and now we know. it's not. it's we try it here it didn't work, let's try it there, not working, and they'll keep moving the search area. i don't think it means a refinement in the analysis of the data as much as if it's not there, maybe another place. >> got to keep looking. and let's not forget, mark, 239 people are missing right now. the u.s. made boeing 777 one of the most popular airliners in the world. about 1,200 of them flying around right now. if there was a mechanical problem, we've got to learn about that. boeing, the manufacturer, has to learn about it. as of now, no one has a clue. and that's why it's so frustrating. especially for someone like you as a pilot. >> right. absolutely. i mean, you know, boeing has a lot at stake in this. but so do the airlines that are flying this equipment. i mean, so much of the advertising dollar has gone in to say, look at our new fleets, what we're bringing out to the traveling public. people are going to be very lee leery. there is always going to be that lingering question. was it problem with the airplane? >> right. and if there was -- this was a
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plane that cost upwards of $200 million a piece. and if there was a mechanical problem, we don't know if it was criminal, we don't know if it was mechanical. or looking at all these options, we've got to fix it to make sure it doesn't happen again. we'll have you back in a moment. families on board flight 370, they want something the malaysian government isn't willing to give. it's a key piece of the evidence that's being kept under wraps for now. we'll share that when we come back. also, piecing together what would cause a u.s. army soldier to open fire on other soldiers. we're going live to ft. hood, texas. a live report, coming up. you know how painful heartburn can be. for fast, long lasting relief, use doctor recommended gaviscon®. only gaviscon® forms a protective barrier that helps block stomach acid from splashing up- relieving the pain quickly. try fast, long lasting gaviscon®. how did i know? well, i didn't really. see, i figured low testosterone would decrease my sex drive...
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the governor of texas, governor rick perry, has been meeting with military personnel there, families, others. he's going to be making a statement, answering reporters' questions. military officials will be briefing us on the latest information, as well. once they show up, we'll go there live, the latest on the ft. hood massacre. that's coming up. let's get back to the missing airliner right now. it's been exactly four weeks since flight 370 disappeared. families say they still aren't getting the information they want. and one of the biggest frustrations right now, the malaysian government won't let them hear the audio recording of the cockpit conversations between the pilots and ground control. our senior international correspondent, sara sidner, joining us from kuala lumpur right now, the malaysian capital. sara, what reason did the malaysian government give for not allowing the families to hear the audiotape? >> reporter: wolf, they would only say that this is part of an ongoing investigation. and they will not release it
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while it's part of that ongoing investigation. it's not enough for the families. basically, the thing that has gotten the families so upset is all these discrepancies, these inaccuracies, that keep coming to light. first we heard from the department of civil aviation saying that it was the co pilot who uttered those last words and that the last words were "all right, good night." then we were able to see a copy of the transcript, that the government finally after three weeks sent out to the media and to the families. and, of course, when you look at that transcript, it said something else. something innocuous, but something else. and so it certainly is making the families wonder if they're doing this purposefully or if they're incompetent or purposely trying to hide something. and that's what has the families so annoyed about this. and, of course, their emotions are going up and down. i think for them, every detail matters. because they do not have the information that they really want, and the government says it
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can't give them that information. and that is, what brought this plane down. where are their loved ones. those two questions have gone unanswered. so really, for them, it's the details that they want. they want to be able to extrapolate their own ideas, because they feel like they're simply not getting good information and enough information from the government, wolf. >> was there anything else the families asked for, sarah, and were denied? >> reporter: yes. they wanted to take a look at the cargo manifest. you know that the passenger manifest was put out with all the names and the numbers of the passengers. but the government also denied them the cargo manifest, saying that too was part of the ongoing investigation. and i think what's happening here is the families are starting to see lots and rumors on the internet. they're calling us, e-mailing us sometimes, asking us if we can confirm this or that, some of them are very out lan dish rumors. but every tiny piece of
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information they're hanging on to. you know the majority of the families we have talked to still hold out hope that their loved ones are alive somewhere. it is bothering them. they are up late at night, thinking about all these details, trying to figure out on their own exactly what happened. because they're not satisfied with what they're getting from the government. the government saying to them, look, we're doing everything we can. we've got all these search planes out and ships out and 26 countries involved in this search. but they haven't been able to find concrete evidence. and until they do, the families won't be satisfied. wolf? >> what a heartbreaking story. sara, thank you for that. families getting increasingly angry and increasingly frustrated with the overall handling of the crisis. let's bring back our panel, our aviation analyst, mark weise, and peter goelz and tom fuentes. they have released the transcript, tom. so we have read the transcript. what's wrong with letting the familiarslies hear the
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audiotape? >> i agree. many investigations, here in this recountry, we don't release everything. but you try to have the credibility that the people would know there is a reason for that. the problem in this case is, anything they say along those lines, they have lost the credibility weeks ago, because of what sara just said. the discrepancies or the falsehoods. things that should have been very accurate from the very start. and once you're running a crisis like this and you've lost credibility, particularly with the victims' families, it's gone. and they haven't done anything, really, helpful to get it back. >> peter, if this were an ntsb investigation, strictly a u.s./faa, ntsb investigation, you have released the transcript. would you let the families hear the audiotape? >> of course. the tower tape would have been made public shortly after the accident. the faa controls that. and it's their policy that unless there's some seriously extenuating circumstance, the tower tape is made public. >> from the pilot's perspective, is there any problem hearing the
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pilot or the co pilot? we're not exactly sure who uttered those final words at exactly 1:19 a.m. there, and we're approaching 30 seconds or so from now, that exact moment when the final words were ushered. in fact, right now, 1:19, that was the time -- 1:19 a.m. over there in that part of the world. 1:19 here on the east coast of the united states when we heard, according to the transcript, the pilot or the co pilot, they're not saying who, uttered those words "goodnight malaysian 370." >> you know, there's been so many misinformation -- so much misinformation being given. having those tapes would really satisfy a lot of people. certainly the families. but there's also the idea that that information on the handoff, when you talk from malaysian center to ho chi minh center, and did ho chi minh center try to raise the aircraft, did they try to get it through other aircraft? that time line, i think, would probably help to determine
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whether or not and what time that aircraft made that turn. there's a lot of misinformation, and there's a lot of information we're lacking. >> what about the second point that the families are frustrated, they want -- what was in the cargo. >> again, had you started these family briefings the second night, and held them every night, and said, you know, some information we would like you to keep confidential, others -- this wouldn't be an issue. you could share the cargo manifest. you could have them look at it. if that's what's sticking in their craw, if that's what's driving them, keeping they will up at 2:00 a.m., then you share it with them. there is nothing that is not going to eventually come out. and the idea is, these people have been tortured. for 30 days. >> and it's -- you know, they see all these rumors utilize there
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airliner. it's only human. >> maybe it landed someplace. >> the less information you put out, the vacuum you leave by having that lack of information, someone is going to fill it with things you don't want out there. that would include media, that will include everybody on the internet and the twitter accounts. and blogs and all the conspiracy theories that come out. if you don't put creditable information out and give a good reason why you're withholding certain specific details, this is what happens. >> tom, peter, mark, thanks so much. right now, crews are using those high-tech devices. they're combing the depths of the southern indian ocean, trying to find some wreckage from flight 370. could there be a game-changer? we're going to talk to an ocean search expert who knows those waters well. and looking for answers in
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the wake of a rampage at ft. hood, texas. you're looking at live pictures right now. a press conference set to begin any minute now. the governor of texas is now there. rick perry. we're going to see what investigators have discovered about a troubled soldier. (dad) well, we've been thinking about it and we're just not sure.
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i don't think george is hearing us. george, can you hear us? apparently we can't hear -- we've got a problem with communications with george howell. we're going to fix that audio. we're going to make sure he can hear us. once again, standing by also for a news conference at ft. hood, live pictures from the news conference about to take place. the governor of texas, rick perry, meeting with military officials, he has been visiting with victims of the ft. hood shootings. he will be speaking shortly, along with other political types, including senator ted cruz, local lawmakers, and others. we'll have live coverage of that, coming up. we'll reconnect with george howell. take a quick break. much more, right after this.
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george howell is just outside at ft. hood. investigators, george, trying to piece together what happened. give us the very latest on the investigation. i also want to point out, we're awaiting the governor of texas, rick perry, about to make a statement after meeting with military officials and family members there. what is the latest as far as the investigation is concerned? >> reporter: wolf, we are monitoring that, as well, as we get information or word. we will, of course, pass the information along to you. as far as the investigation itself, we know that investigators did go to lopez's
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home. they do not find any information note worthy to this investigation. we know they're looking into a variety of different things. we know he was on many different medications, antidepressants, taking the drug ambien, a sleep medication. and you also have to remember, he was being evaluated for ptsd, not officially diagnosed. all will be taken into consideration, wolf, as investigators try to understand what led up to the shooting. one interesting thing that they will be looking into is a verbal altercation that happened just before the shooting. they will try to understand how that played into this, if it might have been an escalating point leading up to the shooting. >> and they have identified the three someters soldiers shot and killed by lopez, right? >> reporter: wolf, i want to read these names. they have learned them. timothy owens, carlos rodriguez, danny ferguson. and we know something about mr.
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ferguson. we have heard from his fiancee. she spoke with affiliate wtsp, and she described him as a person who loved sports. he loved football, loved basketball, also loved serving his country. and in the moments when this happened, two days ago, when lopez came on post, and fired his weapon, killing three people, injuring 16, we understand that ferguson was trying to protect his fellow soldiers. i want you to listen to what she had to say. >> he held that door shut. there's no locks. those doors, they're like -- seemed like they would be bulletproof, but apparently not. and if he was not being the one against that door holding it, that shooter would have been able to get through and shoot everyone else. >> reporter: he was the one trying to keep the door shut. a door that wouldn't lock. but ended up losing his life that day. and wolf, it's also important to point out, again, there was 16
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people who were injured. three were in critical condition. but today we have learned those three have been upgraded to fair condition. so, you know, we can certainly say now that the 16 who were injured, all will survive from this. >> well, that's at least a little encouraging news. horrible, horrible situation at ft. hood. george howell, thanks very much. once again, we're awaiting a news conference about to begin at ft. hood. once it does, we'll go there live. other news, though, we're following, including the search for the malaysia airlines flight 370. it's now in a new phase. it's high-tech and under water. but what if -- what if those sophisticated devices are looking in the wrong area? brian todd is here. he's going to break it all down for us. marge: you know, there's a more enjoyable way to get your fiber. try phillips fiber good gummies. they're delicious, and a good source of fiber to help support regularity. wife: mmmm husband: these are good! marge: the tasty side of fiber. from phillips.
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military officers, and otherses at'hood, texas. he's about to go to the microphones, we're told, fairly soon, brief us on the latest. we'll have live coverage of that, coming up. stand by. in the meantime, four weeks exactly four weeks of searching by air, on the sea. now under water. but so far, there's still no sign of the missing plane. once again, here are the latest developments. two ships are now scouring a 150-mile track of the indian ocean. the australian ship, the "ocean shield" is equipped with a u.s. pinger detector. the device is designed to listen for those pings from the plane's black boxes. the search for the flight data and cockpit voice recorders, certainly that search has become a race against the clock. the batterieses on the devices are expected to run out within the next few days. 14 aircraft, 11 ships, searched from the air, and on the water today. they did report spotting some objects, but nothing, repeat nothing, linked to the missing plane. the under water search for flight 370 involves the use of
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sophisticated, high-tech equipment. but the devices are designed to be used once a debris field is located and is the search area is dramatically narrowed down. brian todd is here with more on this part of the story. so obviously, there are great limits to what this high-tech underwater equipment can do since they're not even sure they're looking in the right place. >> that's right, wolf. this equipment is very impressive. this towed pinger locater can go 20,000 feet below the surface, can detect the pinger from two miles away, but does have its limitations. still, here's what the chief search coordinator, air marshal angus houston said a few hours ago about the pinger locater. >> using the towed pinger locater from the united states navy, on australian defense vessel "ocean shield," and a similar capability on "hmsecho"
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the two ships will search a 240 kilometer track, converging on each other. >> brian, i'm going to interrupt your report for a moment. i want to go to ft. hood, texas. the governor of texas, rick perry, is there. let's listen. >> a very thoughtful time that they allowed us to have, briefed us on the events. and also went by darnel to visit with some of the wounded. the families that were there, and giving us an opportunity to love on them and share with them our support. and a larger sense, though, there aren't any easy answers to what occurred here. and there's no way to wish away the suffering that is -- that's occurring of those caught in this very senseless act of violence. but i want to start by saying thank you and how much we
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appreciate the first responders, the professional way they took care of business. we had a number of our active duty military who were the first responders, and their thanks to the texas rangers, to the fire department, the police officers, and how they almost seamlessly work together. and in texas, we're very proud of the fact that this state loves the military. we work with them, both professionally. we work with them as part of our family in this state. and this state remains ready to lend any assistance that we can be prepared to do, whatever we need to do at the earliest moments. on wednesday, the texas department of public safety immediately dispatched a variety of forces to provide assistance.
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there were 26 texas rangers. there was more than 20 troopers. there was 11 cid agents that were dispatched, as well as a helicopter. this morning, as i mentioned, senator cruz and i met with officials here, and some of the injured and their families. and it's times like these, and i know ted will respond to this, as well, that you see the resilience of the military family. you see the -- what we've known for a long time. unfortunately, this is the second time we have had to deal with the tragedy on this post. but you still see it in the eyes of the people that you meet. you see it in the handshakes they give you. the strength of these people. they will recover. they will recover from this latest tragedy. they'll heal their wounds and we will go forward. we will learn lessons about what's occurred here to minimize the chances of this ever happening again.
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we'll mourn for those we have lost. we'll find out the answers that we can and we'll continue this vital mission that this post and men and women across the country have serving in our military. again, texas is ready to help, and at this time i would like for senator cruz to take the podium. and after that, jimmy -- >> so we're going to continue to monitor what's going on over there. we'll bring you any news that unfolds. but you're hearing the governor of texas, rick perry, tell us certainly what we want to hear. that all of our hearts and our prayers go out to those families who have been devastated by this senseless shooting on the military base. we'll take a quick break. when we come back, we'll get back to the mystery dominating our coverage, clearly, over these last four weeks. exactly four weeks today it unfolded. so are there new high-tech tools that potentially could be a game-changer in the search for flight 370?
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rod mccallum has extensive experience searching under water. rob is here with us right now. so how difficult of a mission is this, since they're not even sure, as i've been saying, they're looking in the right place? but now all of this high-tech underwater equipment has been put in place, and it's moving around. trying to hear that pinger. >> yeah. it is a long shot. but although it's a long shot, it's the best shot. you know, there's no sense in having those assets in that part of the world and not having them in the water actually searching. so, you know, they're using the best data they can from the last known tracker, and they are deploying the assets along that track. and it's a shot in the dark, but it's an informed one. >> and it's basically, you know -- it includes a lot of luck. because that equipment can only move in a relatively tiny area every day. >> that's right. it's essentially a microphone, an underwater microphone, hydro phone, with very limited range, perhaps a couple of miles.
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so they have to pass virtually over the top of the pinger in order to locate it. >> and they do it sort of like a lawn mower. they go back and forth and back and forth. and just move across that area, is that how they do it? >> they're moving in a long, straight line, trying to minimize the other noise disturbances that are in the ocean. and listen very, very carefully for the faintest possible sign. >> so we're familiar with some of this high-tech equipment. i assume that if -- we know at least one british submarine is moving around. i assume there's some other sensitive equipment that's also trying to find what's going on. is there more sophisticated devices out there that we don't know about that potentially could help? >> we could move to the next phase, which is to use active s.o.n.a.r. or s.o.n.a.r. to provide imagery of the sea floor and to see if you can actually see the wreck on the sea floor. we haven't gone there yet. s.o.n.a.r. is deployed either by an auv, underwater autonomous vehicle. >> like an underwater drone, if you will.
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>> like a drone, or towed along on a sled. we call that a towed array. and we haven't gone to that phase yet, because we haven't had that initial starting point. >> what happens when the batteries for those flight data recorders, the cockpit voice recorder, are dead, and the pingers -- the pinging is no longer going? where do the investigators, the search operation go from there? >> well, you see each day that the search area is shifting around. and that's because data that's being gathered from the aerial process, from the satellite process, and from reinterpreting the handshake data is being reanalyzed and reinforming the search area. so it's not game over if the pingers are not located. >> now some believe the plane may have actually gone in full, into the water, sort of like sully sullenberger's plane, miracle on the hundred dollars son, but then sunk. if there is a plane intact at the bottom of the indian ocean, how hard would it be to find that? >> if you know where it is, if -- if you know -- >> if you don't know where it is, a general area, obviously,
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in afghanistan, tension growing a day before presidential and local elections. this as two associated press journalists were shot, unof them killed. an afghan police officer opened fire into a car carrying the two journalists. the german photographer was killed instantly. canadian reporter kathy dannon is in stable condition. he surrendered to other officers, the gunman. and live from kabul with more. anna, the taliban vow to disrupt the elections. this could be awful coming days and weeks. as bad as it's been in afghanistan, it could get a whole lot worst.
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what do we know? >> reporter: yeah, absolutely. there's no doubt about it. the taliban vowed to disrupt these elections and we have seen that violently in the last several weeks as high-profile attacks, especially here in kabul and then today in the province in eastern afghanistan on the border with pakistan, that deadly attack on those associated press journalists. as you say, he was killed instantly, the reporter, kathy, she was seriously injured. we understand she is in stable condition. but these two women, exceptionally brave journalists covering afghanistan for many decades. there were there with the independent election commission watching them hand out the ballot papers to the polling stations. they were traveling in a convoy with police and security and had armed soldiers. and this police officer walked up as the car was stationary,
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and he yelled god is great and then his ak-47 opened fire and sprayed the backseat, killing anya instantly. a tragedy day in afghanistan, and we are expecting more attacks in the coming days. >> it's a brutal situation. now hamid karzai, the outgoing president, he wants to have a significant role, at least according to the "the new york times." he's going toi give up power, butmebut wants to control the situation. the u.s. has lost confidence in him. what's the political scene in the after math of the election? >> reporter: yeah, all that we know, as, you know, very well, relationships between afghanistan and the united states are deeply strained. and president hamid karzai is the reason for that.
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he refused to sign the bilateral security agreement which would ensure an enduring u.s. presence here with the withdrawal at the end of 2014. so, yes, hamid karzai, he has built a residence very close to the presidential palace. and from what everybody is saying certainly here in afghanistan, he does not want to give up power. he wants to influence whoever is the next president. he has to step down. he's done his two terms. and it is, you know, quite well known that he -- he does have his favorite, and he has certainly thrown his support behind one of the candidates, dr. razul. but whether he has that influence on him, whether he certainly has influence on the other candidates, the top candidates, is yet to be seen. but certainly these three presidential candidates have said they will all sign that bilateral security agreement to ensure that, you know, america stays here and make sure that
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this doesn't become a safe haven for terrorists once again, wolf. >> please be careful over there. anna, one of our courageous journalists in kabul right now. i'll be back, 5:00 p.m. eastern. a special two-hour situation room. newsroom with brooke baldwin starts right now. wolf, thank you so much. great to be with all of you on this friday afternoon. i'm brooke baldwin. we begin this hour with this number for you, four weeks after malaysia airlines flight 370 vanished. the search turns below the ocean surface. they are trying to find the black boxes before the pingers go silent. assuming, of course, that their batteries haven't already run out of juice. crews today dropped off that pinger locater in the water. we have talked about this
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