1931. today in dubai the building reigns supreme, higher than both buildings together. thank you for watching my program this week. i'll see you next week. hello, everyone. i'm fredricka whitfield. welcome to the "cnn newsroom." the church for that missing flight 370 is focused right now in an area off -- in the area in the indian ocean where chinese ships detected signals. a british ship with advanced detection equipment is expected to arrive at any moment. the signals heard by the chinese ship friday and saturday were a little more than a mile apart. officials say it's the best lead they have right now. an australian ship picked up what they call an acoustic noise today in a different area to the

north. search teams trying to figure out what it is but authorities say they can't verify any of these sounds are kented to the missing plane. we're also learning brand-new details about the potential path after it dropped off malaysian military radar. a senior malaysian government source tells cnn it appears the plane went north and then around indonesian airspace. the source says that move may have been intentional to avoid radar detection. we're going to examine every annel of the investigation but first lets take a closer look at those new details we're getting about the possible flight path. senior correspondent nic robertson is in kuala lumpur for us. nick what more can you tell us about the plane allegedly skirting indonesia radar? >> fredricka, this is significant, malaysian officials tell us. it shows to them or appears to

show to them whoever was flying the plane, someone who had good control, good flying knowledge of the aircraft this person was intentionally trying to avoid radar detection by indonesian radar. they say to put this picture together with the help of radar information from neighboring countries. really this is going to give investigators here an additional sort of insight into the psychology of the person piloting the aircraft at that moment. we know investigators are looking at the crew. they have been trying to determine whether it was the captain or first officer who made the last radio communication before they went to radio silence, before they turned off transponders on the aircraft giving its location. it appears that whoever was flying the plane was trying to essentially disappearocity radar map, fly into a very remote part

of the ocean, fredricka. >> what kind of reaction is coming from perhaps crew passengers or family members. >> the passenger family members here have been telling us more about their thoughts about the pings detected in the south china seas by recovery services right now. they say without confirmation they are trying to sort of wait patiently. however, that said many of the chinese families all but around about three of those families we're told have gone back to beijing today. they have left a letter with the malaysian authorities saying they want essentially a fund to be set up that can be a reward for whoever gets their first and best information about finding the aircraft and they want investigators who are familiar with the french airlines investigation that plane went down in 2009 in paris. they are calling, if you will

the best world experts in on this. the details about the flight route we're getting, chinese, malaysian families of passengers on board haven't yet difficult kbesed that and commented on it fredricka. >> nick thanks from kuala lumpur. as we just told you british ship "hms echo" are expected to arrive at the site where they detected under water pulse, designed for amphibious operations. the ship on the sea floor provides realtime environmental operation. take a look at the image of the sea floor, generated from one of echo's past missions. the detail gives you an idea of the capability of the high-tech ship. most important in the search for flight 370, the echo has sophisticated sound locating equipment. it can play a pivotal role whether it's coming from 370

black boxes. lets check in now with will ripley in perth, australia the hub of the operation. will what can you tell us about how soon that ship might get to that certainly location? >> well the last update we have from houston puts the echo in the newly refined search zone now. we don't have official word it arrived. that will likely come later on this morning. according to the timeframe we were given, it should be arriving right now and using that high-tech equipment to scan the ocean and listen for sounds and also be able to take a picture of what may lie below. the arrival of the echo in this area is critical. there's a lot of question here in australia about this chinese ship and the pings it supposedly detected on friday and saturday. we don't really know yet how reliable this technology is, the margin for error. to get the echo in there to be another set of ears essentially under the water, to be able to

listen and to see what is there will certainly be crucial as this investigation moves forward, as we need to proceed with caution. there have been a lot of false leads in the case. we don't want to encourage false hope. certainly significant development and worthy of the echo to be there and investigate. >> will what more do we know about the technology on that chinese vessel? >> well, you know all we know really is what you know from seeing those pictures from cctv. it looked to be some sort of hydrophone that was hand-held, stuck in the water from a dinghy whether the video shows it all we don't know. sometimes the video won't show the entire story on the ground. that's all we have to go on and that's what australian officials have to go on as well. we know they have been up communicating with the chinese. they are working to communicate more. they brought in a translator to assist in that process. that's why they really wanted to get the echo in place so that we

can start using additional technology to scan this area and see what may be there. >> then australia has its own ship the "ocean shield" high tech locater borrowed from the u.s. navy. how might it be used in this ongoing search? >> yeah. we need to point out the "ocean shield" is 350 miles away. as far as we know it is still investigating another lead another acoustic event as angus houston who coordinates the efforts here worded it acoustic event 350 miles away. limited details about that. when we asked our source they said they can't talk about that. they are probably trying to avoid any premature speculation. we need to know there's another lead being looked into at a totally separate location. again, we need to be careful. as was pointed out during this investigation, just like we saw a lot of objects not kented to flight 370, the same could be

true with these underwater sound as well. >> australians not using the word pulse but instead an acoustic noise that ship may have picked up. thanks so much, will. appreciate that. i want to bring in sonar expert arnold carr president at american search and survey. mr. carr helped find ss portland in 1989 and was involved in the twa flight 800 recovery. mr. carr that british ship due to arrive at any moment we'll see, at an area where the pulses were detected according to the chinese vessel. we understand their technology may be a bit rudimentary but it had some sort of hydrophones that it just simply dropped into the water. in your view is that high-tech enough to pick up pings this could be flight data from black boxes? >> i think chinese vessel using

a hand-held, it is good equipment, sensitive but really deployed for shallow areas, not the depth you're talking about now. i think finding pulses and verifying pulses are critical. the new ship coming in the british ship with more sophisticated gear would really help out. what you need to do is get those pulses in a very consistent manner. it will tell you if you are seeing pulses from something like aircraft pingers and recorders but it won't verify. you can't verify until you really hone in on beacons and pingers and get to the bottom to see what it really is. >> if the chinese say they were able to detect the sound twice, one time for a minute and a half. you're saying with this kind of equipment perhaps the british ship has on board, it would be in a position to get a more consistent sound for a lengthier

amount of time even if say, they were object strucks and that would explain why there was only a minute and a half detected by the chinese ship? >> you can get some masking of the pings, of the pulses by either geology or sometimes the wreckage in the tail where the locaters are located. yes, you need more sophistication there. what you have to do with those hand-held devices, they are really meant for a mile or less as far as detection. when you're getting down to the bottom a mile or more in-depth you really have to be right over it just about, to see it. the british ship will be able to be a lot more efficient because of its resolution in picking up sound. and the australian ship with a pro device would be best. that gives you more of a horizontal mode when you're bringing hydrophones down near

the bottom. >> all right. arnold carr thank you so much. we'll talk with you again. you're going to join our panel in a moment and we're going to talk more about the search for these pulses and what others australians have described as acoustic noises and also talk more about this report. was this plane trying to avoid indonesian radar.

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welcome back. a couple of major developments in the search for missing flight 370. hms echo british ship with advanced detection equipment expected to arrive any minute at a side chinese ship detected two signals. australia ship picked up acoustic noise today and in a different area to the north. authorities say they can't verify any of these sounds are connected to the missing plane. new details about the potential

path of the plane. senior malaysian government source tells cnn it appears it went around indonesian airspace and the source says that move may have been intentional to detect radar detection. i want to bring in our panel for this hour arranged carr sonar expert and president of underwater search and survey. with me here is captain kit darby retired airlines pilot and consultant and mary schiavo, former inspector general for u.s. department of transportation. niece now an aviation attorney that represents families involved in crashes and disasters. tom fuentes. lets jumped into the report the plane skirted indonesian radar. when put with other information we've seen about the flight's path are we getting any closer to the conclusion this was a deliberate act by someone in the

cockpit of the plane, mary? >> this is another theory. again, i'd like to know if they have additional information. in the beginning four weeks ago we were wondering about intention way points did they intentionally travel to way points that put it on a path that was not a straight line. now the theory they have apparently tries to explain different flight paths where it went around indonesia. of course wait points would have helped direct it around. it's a theory that helps fill in the evidence. we don't have additional hard evidence that shows this is what happened but certainly a theory that places the plane at way points for a reason to skirt radar and explains why we had no radar from indonesia. >> captain dashrby, what does this tell you, they thought someone

had control in the cockpit, if not the pilots someone else and this seemed to be an intentional move. >> you could have a scenario where nobody was flying the planes but it doesn't make turns and climb and descend. it'sette the pilot or someone with a gun to the head of the pilot i can't tell you. they would have experience flying in this area know how the radar would go. they seem to have chosen a path to avoid the radar. seems they clearly are flying the plane going south. >> where radar begins and ends particularly military radar for any country. >> i mentioned military radar. the contact would lose contact with the roar regard contact and he would have experience with that boundary area. i believe the thai radar, i've

always had a lot of faith in we don't know which ones are providing information. i think we'll have a good radar track and altitude on the airplane when the information that's available becomes common knowledge. >> how does this advance the criminal investigation to determine there was a direct void answer of a radar detection or if other nearby radar able to pick up or verify the plane's presence? >> doesn't a littler any aspect fredricka. they were already looking at those possibilities from the first week. another thing, airports or airlines operating in that part of the world in the middle of the night are very busy. i've just felony in and out fof sync singapore, jakarta, they could avoid busy airspace around

indonesia. they could have assumed they came up on indonesian radar an not want to be shot down. that would be another reason for going around the actual island of sumatra, which is the one it was heading towards. there's multiple explanations why they were turning that plane in different directions. avoiding radar is one theory. >> what might be reasons the plane would make a zigzag track if indeed this were the path it would take. >> it's a zigzag straight across malaysian peninsula, heading for the main part of the island of sumatra, indonesia. they made a right turn in the malacca straits, around indonesia. again, that's very busy airspace. they may not have wanted to appear as an intruder which would trigger defense reaction from indonesia and possibly shoot them down. if they were flying it it's not just to avoid defense radar. they may have assumed they came

up on it. if they made that right turn they would present a less hostile intruder into the airspace since it's not heading directly into indonesia. >> arnold how would you see information being helpful in the ongoing certainly for potential debris or black boxes, at least in the right now targeted zones. how would that new path in any way kind of change by a diagnosis or two where the central focus should be. >> certainly verifies or attempts at this point to verify the most probable area. the thing my fellow panelist said that i think is most encouraging is i really hope radar data first analysis will give us much more information. there's three things you hone in on if you have an aircraft go down. you use radar very high on the list. of course communications gps signals, position and then of

course debris in the water or other critical areas. you really need that to find the debris field. >> then captain, i wonder if this information now, will it redirect any focus on certain potential tools, satellite imagery. will investigators wan to relook at material satellite images with this other possible turn or adjustment in the track? might it make a difference? >> i think so. since it descended and went up it would shorten the range. i like these new search areas a lot, come back towards malaysia. i think these climbing and maneuver would shorten significantly. it should change many of the assumptions we made earlier would have to be reanalyzed on the basis of this new data. i believe it will change where we're looking. >> when we come back we'll talk more about the search area now and the concentrated effort to reinvestigate those pulse sounds heard on friday and saturday by

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is very deep. 4 1/2 kilometers straight down. so you know any recovery operation is going to be incredibly challenging and very demanding and will take a long period of time. >> that was angus houston, the head of the australian agency coordinating flight 370 certainly operations explaining how there's 4500 meters or nearly three miles of search area underneath where the chinese patrol ship picked up underwater sounds. in other words, even if that's exactly where the missing plane went down any underwater search and recovery efforts would be daunting to say the least. jennifer gray with us. >> paint the picture just how challenging a task. >> even that is hard to do. we don't know a whole lot about the surface. we know the new search area

83,000 square miles. that's roughly the size of utah. we've had ships, we've had planes combing this area. this is nothing compared to what lies beneath the ocean. we know there's a broken rinl,dge, a plateau in the vicinity. it can be very daunting. i want to paint a picture. ping detection depth 15,000 feet. it could be deeper could be not quite as deep. we just don't know because we don't know exactly where it is. where that broken ridge is could be up to 20,000 feet deep and then where the plateau is could be anywhere from say, 5 to 10,000 feet. let me try to put this in perspective for you, if i can. we have some of the world's tallest or not known buildings sitting right on the ocean floor. you can see this one right here. this little speck right here it's the eiffel tower. it's 1,000 feet.

when you put that on the bottom of the indian ocean, look at that you would have to stack 20 of these on top of each other to get to the top of the indian ocean. the empire state building it would take 17 or 18 of these. you have the plateaus the depth alone is extremely intimidating. the average depth we're talking about is 700,000 feet. the current search area could be as much as 20,000 feet. this is mind boggling. you see these little buildings sitting on the bottom it's hard to wrap your mind around what we're dealing with. >> it helps us understand the scale. when we saw daunting that's what we mean. we'll talk later on about the equipment used if that were location of any wreckage. what kind of equipment would it to to try to retrieve anything

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new details from a source in the malaysian government has raised a suspicion flight 370 may have tried to divert radar detection. the sawyers says the plane flew around indonesia in an tem to avoid detection. why the plane would do that is still a mystery. search crews in the indian ocean are trying to figure out if three underwater sounds related to the plane. two signals detected by a chinese ship one friday and one saturday a australian ship detected a noise but about 350 miles to the north. british ship with specific

high-tech ability within miles of the chinese ship that had detected that underwater pulse. hms echo sophisticated sound equipment, could be the key determining whether it's coming from flight 370's black boxes. check in with will. will what is the first thing oak, will be assigned to do. >> in that area as we speak, just within miles of each other. echo's job once we get to the newly refined certainly zone. by the way, latest numbers, information estimates officials believe malaysian airliner may have gone down in this area which is what the chinese ship detected which is what's so interesting to authorities. the echo with the sophisticated technology will allow them to

start scanning take a map of the area the owing, to see what's down there. that is key, verify onto something or clear the area and say this is not the right spot and we need to move on from here. that effort is going to begin literally within the next hour or so presumably since it's so close. >> ocean shield 350 miles away from where echo and the chinese ship are, it claims to have detected some acoustic noise. will they be any more specific than that? >> we hope to get more extensive information when we check in with authorities. they are hoping to get what they are investigating in the other area. the reason they are doing that they want to be cautious don't want to put out information premature. there is some discussion publication of the chinese ship detecting a possible ping on friday and again on saturday

they are putting that out there to the world may not have been the right thing. what if it turns out not to have any connection to the missing plane. we've raised people's hopes, dropped them again if they turn out to be not connected. three reported acoustic event, two with chinese ship one with australian ship all investigated as we speak. this is a 24/7 operation when you're talking about listening under water and scanning. that's something you don't need daylight to do can do it all hours of the day and night. >> riply, thanks so much. i want to bring in the panel now to talk about today's search lets talk about this hope with acoustic events taking place 300 miles apart. given the way sound travels under water, captain darby, in your view is it hopeful it could be the same thing emitting this pulse sound even though it's 300 miles? >> there's no chance of that the

airline would fly 30 minutes to cover that kind of distance. no chance the parts would be separated and attached to the airplane. they can't both be right. although chinese, if they are connect sounds likely. i'm very excited. >> two chinese heard, might be a mile apart, would that be the same sflf that's more like it. that's about the range of a pinger in the deep water, the depth of the water and any distance over the top of it. we're right on the edge of detecting it at all. >> i wonder if we're talking about the new track, the plane might have tried to avoid indonesian airspace. in the last conversation this would better verify or seem to provide more credence to this particular search area why do you think the two are connected? >> because for some reason we

don't know exactly why, the chinese selected this area slightly off the path off the search area before. this is also where chinese aircraft said they saw some objects. there was a reason they selected this area with the new information or at least newly released who knows when they heard about it. network believes planes skirted indonesian airspace that would give searchers a better indication of the track. it would add to and not detract from the track from immarsat. they would have immarsat data and overlay this track where they went around indonesia as opposed to perhaps across it would give them a better place to zero in. that being the case perhaps that's what the chinese thought or figured out or came up with on their own or communicated with the indonesians. if that's the case well then they are on a better location to search. >> tom, does this better

underscore chinese have technology or abilities they are keeping secret. no one knew this chinese ship the ship. do we believe they had better technology that helped them pinpoint this location? >> we don't know. we're guessing what they actually do have. i've been scanning english speaking chinese newspapers all day. this is front page news throughout the country. and the way they are reporting this there, they are quoting chinese scientists and college professors as this is it. we found the airplane. so they are not even speculating with caution in china. what that does in my mind is create an enormous political problem for australia and malaysians if they send that echo over that site and find nothing, do they just say there

was nothing there in the first place and leave? do they say maybe the battery ran out by the time they got there? they are going to have a hard time ignoring the chinese information because of the pressure that's going to be put on them by china itself. >> mary australia authorities are saying that this is quote, important and encouraging lead. at the same time does it look as though the chinese are trying to take the lead in investigation so far the search investigations by australians. >> investigators do that. we have the same thing in this country. when twa went down fbi, ntsb were at each other's throat. in the aftermath, fbi and others pointing fingers at each other. investigators do that. they are curious. they want to solve the mystery. if the chinese wanted to step out ahead and go out their open

and put pieces together yes, you can ring your hands and say you didn't cooperate, the fact of the matter is if they found it they found it. that's what we want. i think it's impossible to ignore. even if they don't pick up the pings at this point, the australian leader angus, will have to say we're going to map the ocean floor. you can't ignore it. this is all you've got. you've got a pinning here and two pings there. at this point they are going to have to commit. >> the british ship now in that area. we understand just miles away from the exact location the chinese believed they picked up pulses. see if the sonar equipment will help duplicate that sound. kidnap darby, mary schiavo, tom fuentes, thanks to all of you. appreciate it. stay with us. we'll check bases with you later on as this story continues to develop. also we're going to talk

about what one congressman is proposing. he says it's time to add a more advanced type of black box to commercial planes but what's the cost, next.

malaysian flight 370 and crews are still trying to find black

boxes. what if planes were equipped with back-up black boxes that automatically ejected in an emergency situation that would be easier to find. one lawmaker is trying to make that a reality. i asked whether he thinks they should be on all commercial planes. >> i believe there should be. there's been a good deal of study, a good deal of discussion how this might be done. the 9/11 commission recommended this. recently i've directed through homeland security subcommittee which at that point i was chairing i directed national security administration to study feasibility of putting ejectable, floatable on all aircraft. they came back with a positive report about the potential of such technology. now the federal aviation administration, which is the agency that mainly has jurisdiction here has this under

consideration. >> if the 911 commission recommended it as well and it is available, what's the problem? >> well that's a good question. there's plenty of compelling reasons to do this. some might say cost is the problem but one of the certainlies like the search under way now for this malaysia airliner the cost of that sort of surge would pay for these things indefinitely. so there's no comparison. there's also the security argument where we need to know as soon as we can whether there was a terrorist attack or some other eventuality and closure for these families who have the agony of a long wait. >> thanks so much to representative david price. so as ships search for underwater sounds from those black boxes, malaysian sources tell cnn the planes may have intentionally avoided airspace.

they are hesitant about any new leads. >> reporter: chinese families here are aware of new information, many have watched the australian news conference. in general they are taking a cautious approach because there's been so many false leads in the past. one chinese family saying this is a new clue but there seems to be many new clues each day. lets wait until it's confirmed. there have been a lot of questions about why it broke by chinese media rather than those leading the search effort in the domestic corridor. china needs to appear strong for its citizens in terms of finding answers, especially since 154 people on the plane are chinese students. head of the certainly agency angus houston said in a news conference he understands the reality of news getting ahead of

him, especially when you have reporters on the planes and on the ships. he said he's prepared to accept though reality. he's done playing any tension between china and australia. he wanted to stress this is a complicated international effort and he wanted to focus on the positive. in this case the positive of chasing down this latest lead. pauline chu, cnn. >> thanks so much. we'll have much more on the ongoing search of flight 370 with a british ship arriving to an area where the chinese vessel said it heard pulses. next the daring rescue of a sick little girl 900 miles off the coast of mexico. >> richard williams taught venus and serena how to play on hard

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