tv New Day CNN April 8, 2014 3:00am-6:01am PDT
3:00 am
boiling over. a brawl breaking out over ukraine's parliament if ukrainian fors try to stop pro-russian demonstrators from taking over government buildings. your "new day" starts right now. >> this is "new day" with chris cuomo, kate balduan. >> good morning. welcome to "new day." it's tuesday, april 8th. up first, the flight for search 370. good news, they have narrowed the area where the plane might be. the bad news, they may run at of time to find it. search teams are still unable to relocate the pinger signal raising fears the batteries in the black boxes may be dead, kate. >> time is of the essence. every second counts in this unprecidented search. a race truly against the clock at this point. we're going to start our coverage of the search for flight 370 with aaron life in
3:01 am
perth, australia, for us. erin, what's the latest? >> hi, kate. search teams have carried out some 133 missions, but still they're coming up empty handed. all eyes on this ocean shield in thises race against time as they are trying to detect more black box signals before the batteries run out. today silence, after an australian navy ship detected these audio signals over the weekend. the pings possibly related to flight 370. >> there have been no further contacts with any transmission. >> reporter: australian authorities refining the search area today, zoning in on a 30,000 square mile stretch located 1400 miles northwest of perth. that's about a third of the size of their previous search zone. >> we are throwing everything at this difficult, complex task. >> reporter: those resources include today's 14 ships and 14
3:02 am
aircraft. now on day 32 of the search those reconnaissance teams racing against the clock as the batteries powering the plane's beacons have now exceeded their 30-day shelf life. >> the experience with the kit from around the world is that they usually last longer than the 30 days. >> reporter: the ocean shield is combing the northern end fors those fleeting signals. authorities cautioning against conflicting noise. >> some of the false leads that we've had have been actually transmissions from the ship that was actually searching. and it got its own transmissions back again. >> reporter: australian authorities say they will not deploy that u.s. navy provided blue fin 21, an underwater autonomous vehicle. in absence of that, ank gus houston today saying it could take a very, very, very long time looking for this wreckage. chris? >> all right, erin, thank you
3:03 am
very much. let's bring in mary schiavo and david soucie and former faa inspector. thanks to both of you. a couple of common sense questions before we get into the frenzied forensics. david soucie, battery life. why are we guessing? everything has a use by or sell by date these days. why don't we know when the batteries stop? >> what they're certified nor is 30 days. with any certification you have to have a safety margin or faker and that factor is expected time could go as long as 35 days. what's making it questionable for me is the information that we received about the fact that they weren't stored properly or may not have been stored properly. i'm questioning their ability to go 30 days let alone 35. that puts a lot of question in my mind as to how long exactly
3:04 am
those batteries will go. >> that's why we're guessing about the battery life. mary, why aren't we happier? why isn't this just a lead? we're hearing from the people in command of the fleet when they do a pass and hear it that means their within two miles. if they're within two miles, why aren't we more excited? >> i think that they're not more excited because they went back to where they heard it. it was an "x" marks the spot. when you go back to the spot and it's not there they were concerned. obviously what they don't come up with the ping again, if they don't -- aren't able to replicate the acoustic event i think they will go back to kt x" marks the spot and then put in the sure mers i beliebmersibles sonar. for now they wanted to narrow that in. without additional pings they have to go with the one they had before. >> i'm standing on this huge map
3:05 am
that we made before now it's two miles and they seem like just as cautiously optimistic. what am i missing? >> well, you know, i'm with you. if you got the pings and the pings really were from the black boxeses and they have two different ones so it would be from the two black boxes and certainly they recorded the latitude and longitude of where they were when they got the pings and they had them for one of them for two hours, so to go back there, but they tell us, the oceanographers, tell us at even at a three-mile radius, the ocean is a big place, it's going to take a while to map the ocean floor. they wanted to zero that in. certainly they are the best that we've had in the entire investigation. it's pretty good to us from those on the outside looking? >> then you heard these on 33.3 megahertz, david, not 37.5. that's still close enough. we feel like we're still pretty
3:06 am
close. then you hear the joint agency, the head, coming out saying we're not going to deploy the submarine until we get closer. what kind of signals are those sending? >> it's mixed signals, certainly. the 33.5 is not unexpected by my count. the fact that it's every second is extremely telling. the 33.5 doesn't concern me too greatly because the fact when it's deliver i'd it can be as low as 36.5. and as time goes on the radio channels slip. it starts going lower as the batteries wear out. it tells me that we're very, very close to that -- the end of that battery life when it was sensed. so it's possible in my mind, certainly, that this could be an indication that the battery has stopped pinging. the battery has exhausted its life. >> how do the percentages change once the pings stops? >> unbelievably. it's just enormous. but again, with the fact that they did get that signal for two
3:07 am
hours straight means that the pinger was close to the center because it's going at about one mile an hour, one knot per hour, and so you think about two hours you've gone two miles with it in the dome of where that pinger is radiating to. the fact that you were there for two hours or two miles would tell you in the epicenter or center of that pinging location could be in that six-mile radius. the fact that you were in that area for two miles, either you were higher, right in the center, or lower or the perimeter. >> mary, one of the two or three things that aren't on your list of credentials is that you are an expert when it comes to underwater submarine surveillance. i'm going to take a guess you know the answer to this question anyway. there is criticism of the task force right now that they haven't put the subin. if you're close, put the submarine in. start looking. start looking. why would that the no necessarily be the best thing to
3:08 am
do? >> because they were focused on hearing the pings again, they have to have quiet and they have the towed pinger locator. they put that in the water, go slowly and it's quiet and they don't want the submersibles down there stirring up thing moving around when they're listening for the pings. as soon as they had a chance to have battery life and zero it in with that, that was the number one priority. now if the pinger truly is gone, the battery is dead, that's it. they'll move on to that. they had to have silence. >> even if they locate the pinger, even if they get within the two miles and they believe this is the best place where we think the wreckage is, and let's say it's within half a mile area, what are some safe estimate force how long it takes from that point until you can reasonably feel you can find something given the depth, given the problem with the proportions, about what's on the ocean floor.
3:09 am
give us a time horizon. mary, then david. >> if they're lucky and it was a three-mile or five-mile radius i would say a week be f. they put the submersibles in and find something on the ocean floor. if it wasn't that close, it could be months. i would say once they put them in, if there's something down there, a week. >> pro optimism, i like it. soucie? >> i'm not quite as optimistic about the time frame of the week because of the fact that the vehicles only will operate for 18 hours at a time and they have to be brought back up. we're looking at longer than that, particularly at the location of the side of a ridge. we could be looking at months. even in that close proximity. >> cautious optimism. closer than they were before. at least we hope so. mary, david, thanks very must have. kate? >> tensions are escalating this morning in ukraine with russia sounding alarms of war. russia's foreign ministers demanding kiev stop any use of
3:10 am
force in ukraine's eastern region where they're trying to stand their ground against pro-russian demonstrators. earlier today fis went flying in ukraine's parliament after one member suggested ukraine was to blame for the escalating issues. let's get the latest from phil black who is joining us by phone from the russia/ukraine border with the latest. good morning, phil. >> the russian government advised the ukraine not to use force against the protest groups in the east of the country because they believe they could start a civil war but it looks like the ukrainian government isn't paying attention. they conducted an antiterror operation. the eastern city, this is where a large group had occupied a government building in the hope of declaring independence, following in the footsteps of crimea and that's joining the russian federation. now it appears to be under control. in the southeast of ukraine there is a similar situation on going. a group has occupied a
3:11 am
government building declaring independence, call for a referendum, asking russia to send in peace crekeeppeacekeepe. they believe russia is behind all of this. russia denies all of that, saying stop blaming us for your problems. the united states also believes there is a russian hand in this, saying these protests do not appear to be spontaneous. the people involved in it, locals, there's even a chance they could be being paid to be there. so the message from the united states to russia from secretary of state john kerry to his russian counterpart sergei lavrov is stop trying to destabilize ukraine, now. kate? >> one way some would argue that is happening is russian forces being on the border there. you're on the border. do you still see russian military there? is there any sign troops are drawing back as was suggested by the president vladimir putin? >> you don't see them easily in this section. the russia/ukrainian border is a
3:12 am
long stretch of territory spread out across, the largely confined to military training bases. they are at a very high state of readiness. that is the nato assessment that they could roll very quickly given the word. russia says they're not there to invade ukraine, they're there to conduct exercises and russia has no interest in ok pig ukraine militarily. what the u.s. wants to see is action that backs up those words. pull back the forces to their permanent bases. so far russia hasn't done that. >> sure doesn't see any de-escalation happening at in point for sure. phil black on the russia/ukraine border. thank you so much. let's look at more of your headlines this hour. breaking overnight, lapd officer is recovering after he was shot multiple times inside a place station. police stay suspect walked into the station and opened fire. other victims were reportedly hit. the suspect is in custody being treated as a local hospital nor
3:13 am
nonlife threatening injuries. today president obama is set to sign a pair of executive orders aimed at narrowing the wage gap between men and women. one would prohibit federal contractors from retaliating against workers who discuss their salaries with one another. the other would force contractors to disclose more information about employee compensation including sex and race breakdowns. we are learning more about a possible motive behind the deadly shooting, the latest one at ft. hood. a u.s. official familiar with the investigation tells cnn specialist ivan lopez had asked to transfer claiming he was being taunting and picked on by soldiers in his unit. a spokesman for the army criminal investigation confirmed just before the rampage lopez was involved in a verbal altercation concerning his request for leave. britain's prince william, duchess cathryn, and prince george are in new zealand this morning. they were treated to a traditional mallory welcoming ceremony. tonight they will attend a young
3:14 am
event for young motherss and babies. they will tour for nine days before heading on to australian. the uconn huskies are this year's kings of college basketball defeating kentucky winning the national championship. it is connecticut's fourth national title. perhaps the unlikeliest one of all. the victory set off a wild celebration on uconn's campus. unfortunately more than two dozen people were arrested. the big game the morning after the celebration in arlington, texas. how are you doing it? look at what smile on his face. what a game. >> what a game it was, michaela. no one thought that uconn huskies would end up having a run like this, no one outside the program that is. not believed they could take down kentucky but they continued to prove their daughter oubt do wrong. highest seed in win the tournament in nearly 30 years. as for the game, 42 and 43 were
3:15 am
in the house to watch this one. bill clinton and george w. bush saw the veteran huskies jump on the wildcats early. they would never trail in the game. uconn's veteran backboard of napier and boatwright were fantastic. napier led uconn with 22 points. he was named the final four's most it outstanding players. the huskieses were not allowed in the tournament last year because of academic problems but this year they're top dog bringing home their fourth national title since 1999. >> we've been doubted for or so long. >> somebody told me we were cinderellas. i was like, no, we're uconn. i mean, this is what we do. we are born for this. we bred it to cut down nets. >> as of the special win for napier. he watched his fellow teammates
3:16 am
bring the program after the academics but he decided to stay. he began and ended his college career with a national championship. >> andy, my high school basketball coach is feelg vindicated. you saw connecticut go 10 for 10 on the foul line. 10 for 10 on free lthrows. >> the importance of free throws. >> they made a lot of free throws. >> too young, kentucky was too young. >> and if they would have won you would have said -- no, i would have said they were too fast. that's true. i was surprised how fast uconn was. >> yeah. >> and that napier kid did a shot in the first landfahalf. there was a reebok back in the day and he used to rein jumpers outside. he hit a shot so far. i played the game. >> can we call you that right now? >> lamar, no, i couldn't shoot. when he hit this three from so
3:17 am
far away that you could see the kentucky guys -- the first thing you do when a guy hits a shot on you, come on, d up your man. they looked at each other like, did you see where he shot that from? >> i have to look at some of your binterviews. >> this much was much more simple to analyze. >> i will say why i love march madness. everyone thinks it's going to be the number one seeds. it rarely is these days. >> now what am i going to do? >> make some coffee, fix your hair, brush your teeth. the search for flight 370 seems to be paiing away but it turns out it's just the beginning. we're going to have the man who took two years to find the air france flight. riveting testimony. the blade runner telling the courtroom he was more into his model girlfriend than she was into him. we're going to take you live to the courthouse for much more.
3:18 am
two pretzels. put in on my capital one venture card. i earn unlimited double miles. not bad. can i get your autograph mr. barkley? sure kid. man my fans they love me. that's the price you pay for being world famous. he meant sign the receipt, fool. greg anthony. haha. hey man, could you sign my hat? he wants my autograph. earn unlimited double miles with no blackout dates from the capital one venture card. what's in your wallet? gunderman group is growing. getting in a groove. growth is gratifying. goal is to grow. gotta get greater growth. growth? growth. i just talked to ups. they've got a lot of great ideas. like smart pick ups. they'll only show up when you print a label and it's automatic. we save time and money.
3:19 am
time? money? time and money. awesome. awesome! awesome! awesome! awesome! awesome! awesome! awesome! (all) awesome! i love logistics. maestro of project management. baron of the build-out. you need a permit... to be this awesome. and you...rent from national. because only national lets you choose any car in the aisle... and go.
3:20 am
and only national is ranked highest in car rental customer satisfaction by j.d. power. (aaron) purrrfect. (vo) meee-ow, business pro. meee-ow. go national. go like a pro. [ banker ] sydney needed some financial guidance so she could take her dream to the next level. so we talked about her options. her valuable assets were staying. and selling her car wouldn't fly. we helped sydney manage her debt and prioritize her goals, so she could really turn up the volume on her dreams
3:21 am
today...and tomorrow. so let's see what we can do about that... remodel. motorcycle. [ female announcer ] some questions take more than a bank. they take a banker. make a my financial priorities appointment today. because when people talk, great things happen. ♪ hooking up the country whelping business run ♪ make a my financial priorities appointment today. ♪ trains! they haul everything, safely and on time. ♪ tracks! they connect the factories built along the lines. and that means jobs, lots of people, making lots and lots of things. let's get your business rolling now, everybody sing. ♪ norfolk southern what's your function? ♪ ♪ helping this big country move ahead as one ♪ ♪ norfolk southern how's that function? ♪
3:22 am
oscar pistorius back on the stand for a second day in his murder trial. he and his lawyer are building a narrative. yesterday it was the store roif his fear of attacks since childhood. today, it is the love for reeva. he is reading text messages to and from girlfriend reeva steencamp, most of them loving, angry from his first days meeting to the days before her death. is it effective? let's go to robin kerr right now in pretoria. robin, what are you seeing in the courtroom? >> hi, there chris. well, they called each other boo, brk a brbaba, my an yell, kissy, kissy type messages. the whole morning in court, two hours worth of messages between the two of them reread out. they were eintimate, personal, but crucial in the defense of
3:23 am
them trying to paint a picture of them having a loving relationship. before, bear in mind that oscar pistorius has chosen not to appear on camera so you will he him, not see his face. >> i was maybe more into her than she was at times with me. >> reporter: you're hearing for the first time oscar pistorius recounting his relationship with reeva steencamp over a year ago. >> we started seeing a future with each other. >> reporter: the olympian reading aloud the ticks between hip and his girlfriend before the month before he killed her. >> i'm scare of you sometimes and how you snap at me. >> reporter: the athlete's say the response was in an argument at an engagement party. he claims all arguments were resolved. the defense continued combing through their messages making the olympian read dozens of loving texts in hopes of portraying a healthy relationship. pistorius holding back tears.
3:24 am
the defense spent monday painting a picture of a young boy growing up te his mother would call police in the middle of the night when she heard noises. >> she would call us to go sit in her room and many times we just wait for the police to arrive. >> reporter: just like pistorius, she slept with a gun. >> she kept a firearm under her -- in her -- under her pillow. >> reporter: even before his testimony began on monday, pistorius turned to reeva steencamp's roth there with a tearful apology. >> i wake up every morning and you're the first people i think of, the first people i pray for. i can't imagine the pain and the sorrow that i caused you and your family. >> reporter: he says steencamp's death was an accident. >> i was simply trying to
3:25 am
protect reeva. i can promise you when she went to bed that night she felt loved. >> reporter: a night he says haunts him. >> i wake up and i smell -- i smell -- you can smell the blood and i wake up to being terrified. >> reporter: okay. happening right now, chris, oscar pistorius is getting to that part in his narrative where he's talking about the events of february the 13th. he's talking about reeva steencamp and him having an early dinner, him taking a bath, them going to bed. he's talking about how he was locking up the house at around 8:00 p.m. he hasn't yet got to that part where he says he woke up and heard an intruder. of course, with tragic consequences. we'll keep you posted. >> we appreciate that. we'll follow it throughout the morning and break it down later in the show. very interesting because the prosecution is listening to this as well. they have to find opportunities to combat the testimony and how
3:26 am
their tone is is l. going to be really important. >> and important to always remember, we saw an image of reeva's mother and family member. you can imagine how hard this has already been. imagine when he gets to the part of the story of the night she was killed. we'll stay on that for all of you. coming up next on "new day," disappointing news overnight, ships unable to relocate the pinger signal and the search for flight 370. does this mean the pinger has died or the search is now harder? we'll ask an expert who helped lead the search for air france 447. you hear this one, a republican, louisiana congressman, got caught kissing a female staffer on tape. that's bad. he's married, that's bad. and he campaigned on faith and family. so what will congressman vance mcallister do now?
3:27 am
[bell rings] [prof. burke] at farmers,we make you smarter about your insurance,because what you don't know can hurt you. what if you didn't know that taking pictures of your belongings helps when you have a claim? or that farmers offers a policy that will replace your car with a new one if it's totaled within the first two model years. and that parking near a street lamp deters thieves? the more you know,the better you can plan for what's ahead. talk to farmers and get smarter about your insurance.
3:28 am
3:30 am
breaking news op oscar pistorius on the stand for his murder trial. >> because of my shoulder injury i couldn't lie on my right shoulder, so for a couple of weeks i had been sleeping on and off on the left-hand side. of the bed. it wasn't long after that that i started falling asleep and getting tired. it was extremely warm inside the room, and reeva was still sitting up in bed. she was lying with her back
3:31 am
against the headboard, and i was lying with my head on her stomach watching something on tv. i don't remember what it was. and she would show me every now and again, what do you think of this or do you think this car. she showed me a picture of a car she really liked. and we had a short conversation about it. and i was getting increasingly tired. i said to her, do you want me to close the doors or would you close them when you come -- when you fall asleep, will you bring in the fans and close the curtains and lock the door when you -- when you fall asleep. and she said -- she said, you know, she said to me that she would. then i fell asleep. >> if we can first stop there, mr. pistorius.
3:32 am
it was not valentine's day, the thursday, it was the next day after valentine's day. >> that is correct, my lady. >> any valentine's gift for you for the next day? >> i had bought reeva a bracelet from a designer that she liked earlier in the year. and i hadn't made plans for the 14th. >> would you speak up a little? >> i beg your pardon. i hadn't made any plans on the 14th. i had a dentist appointment on the 14th in the morning. reeva wasn't going to stay at my house. our plans were that i meet her in johannesburg at this jewelry store that i got the bracelet from. and the bracelet had a couple of charms on it. there were two bracelets i bought her. so i said to her, we both kind of made a thing about not making a big thing out of valentine's
3:33 am
d day. and we were just going to have dinner. i think for us that was a nice evening is just being alone and being at home home, making dinner. >> did she buy you something for valentine's day? >> i got home on the evening -- early evening on the 13th and there was a wrapped present on the kitchen counter with a card that said, iz, and when i walked in the kitchen i acted as if i was going to open it, white wrapping paper, and reeva told
3:34 am
me i would like you to open it the next day. so i didn't open it. on 8th of august on reeva's birthday i opened her valentine's gift to me and it was a photo frame that she got ma made, four photos of her and i. and the card that she wrote -- >> mr. pistorius, we're turning now, you're falling asleep. you are now without your prosthetics. your prosthetic leg, your prosthesis? >> that is correct, melee
3:35 am
difficult. >> did you wear any clothes? >> i had a -- i had a pair of men's training shorts on, basketball shorts on, and i had a gray vest. when i took off my prosthetic legs to climb into bed, i had taken my vest off and placed them on my prosthetic legs. i was just wearing a pair of shorts. >> my lady, i ask for a very short adjournment just for a process to take place, to show to the court what the position is without his prosthetic leg.
3:36 am
five minutes, my lady. just to get proper clothing on. >> five minutes. >> five minutes. >> the court is adjourned. >> we're going to take a break here right now. fairly interesting. defense counsel suggested a short adjournment to the judge because they wanted to change clothe. i think he meant oscar pistorius, so they could demonstrate how he was dressed and positioned the night the shooting occurred. >> he said he had taken off his prosthetic leg when he had gotten into bed. that kind of goes to when he said he was scared because he was without his prosthetic legs when we woke up thinking someone was coming into their house. >> not something you would usually see in a u.s. trial. looks like we're about to do that in this one. right now let's take a quick break on "new day."
3:37 am
3:38 am
baron of the build-out. you need a permit... to be this awesome. and you...rent from national. because only national lets you choose any car in the aisle... and go. and only national is ranked highest in car rental customer satisfaction by j.d. power. (aaron) purrrfect. (vo) meee-ow, business pro. meee-ow. go national. go like a pro. ...and let in the dog that woke the man who drove to the control room [ woman ] driverless mode engaged. find parking space. [ woman ] parking space found. [ male announcer ] ...that secured the data that directed the turbines that powered the farm that made the milk that went to the store that reminded the man to buy the milk that was poured by the girl who loved the cat. [ meows ] the internet of everything is changing everything. cisco. tomorrow starts here.
3:40 am
3:41 am
but sophisticated listening devices are the water with crews hoping that the batteries in the plane's black boxes have not been drained quite yet. this morning the search zone is more focused, narrowing to some 30,000 square miles. but is that enough? joining us now from boston is cnn analyst david gallow. he was a leader in the search for air france flight 447 and is currently director of special projects. david, i great to see you again. >> hi, kate. likewise. >> of course. i want -- we need to lean heavily on your expertise this morning. i want to start with what we know and a little bit about what we don't know and get your take on it. we know a ping was detected that they kept the -- they detected it for over two hours but since then, when they've gone back, they have not been able to reconnect. is that a bad sign in your experience? >> no, given -- well, this whole thing for the past month, this whole mystery, we've had ups and downs and we go from optimistic
3:42 am
to cautiously optimistic. i guess that's what we are now. i don't take it as bad sign, it's a normal progression. i think we've gotten used to dealing with things like this. >> i guess so. they have narrowed the search area. the last time you and i spoke, that was probably the most important thing that needed to happen, was that they narrowed this down. it's now at some 30,000 square miles, which is about a third of what they were previously searching. but is that enough? i assume the answer is no. >> the answer is no. well, you know, on air france we had 5,000 square miles so this is still six times that. it's immense when you look at it. it would take years for one vehicle to cover that much terrain. we still have narrowing to do. >> how do you go about doing that? let's just assume that we do not pick up a ping again. can you narrow it downey further if we do not reconnect with the pings? >> kate, i would focus on that they were within a few miles at
3:43 am
that one location, which is the north side of a feature called the wallaby plateau. i think that's a great place to start in an underwater map. they should work outwards instead of worrying about how big that area can be. >> what do you make of the discrepancy and frequency? the numbers keep getting all scrambled up in my head. but it was 37.5 and it's 33.3 or something along tohose lines. the frequency it was supposed to be from the manufacturer, what they were picking up yesterday, not the same thing. does that trouble you or does that seem like something in the realm of possibility given the conditions down there? >> it did trouble me, but cnn analyst david soucie has convinced me that that's a normal drift as batteries wear down and time goes on. we could drift into those different frequencies. it's almost like riding down the road and with the old radios
3:44 am
trying to tune in to certain radio station and you have it loud and clear and next thing you know you've got to do more fiddling with that knob to bring it back in again. it's something like that to me. i was discouraged at first but now i recognize it's within the realm of normalcy for this. >> continues to be unusual and the search is unprecedented. david gallo, thank you very much. >> you're welcome, kate. kate, let's return to oscar pistorius on the stand right now. he is telling his story. there was a short adjournment so that clothes could be changed. there's some type of demonstration being planned. we're waiting for that. they're now back in court. there's defense counsel. let's see what happens. >> this will be the second part of this evidence as well.
3:45 am
i also, for the second part, after the adjournment,s he's in present clothing, of course, for the demonstration. >> yes. >> just to paint the scene for you here. if you will remember, the actual door from oscar pistorius' bathroom is in the courtroom. we believe oscar pistorius is standing next to it, how he is positioned that night. >> we are not going to see oscar pie . we are hearing his voice but you're not going to see what is probably the construction of this testimony. >> he's taken his legs off to show how he was that night. he has put on trainer shorts, gym shorts, and is supposedly positioned next to the door to show his angle and his
3:46 am
intention. let's listen in. >> and you go from there. did you wake up again, later on? >> i woke up in the early hours of the 14th of february. it was extremely warm in my room. and i sat up in bed. i noticed that the fans were still running and that the door was still open. although the lights had been switched off and reeva was -- reeva was still awake or she was obviously not sleeping.
3:47 am
she rolled over to me and said, can't you sleep, my bubba? i said, no, i can't. i got back to my side of the bed. i walked around the bed, foot of the bed. i was holding on to the foot of the bed with my left hand. i got to the fans, where the fans were. i took those small fan and i placed it pretty much just inside the room and i took the bigger tripod fan and i took it by the part just underneath the fan and i placed it in the bedroom. the fans were still running, still running at the time. and i then proceeded to close the sliding doors and lock them. i then drew the curtains. >> and the blinds?
3:48 am
>> i don't remember. i just remember closing -- i just grabbed and closed. it was very dark at the time. i probably closed both of them but i remember closing -- closing the curtains. i came into the room at this poi point. the only bit of light in the room was the l.e.d. light on the amplifie amplifier, where the tv cabinet was was a little blue l.e.d. light. and i could see a pair of jeans
3:49 am
that were on the floor, reeva's jeans. i picked the jeans up and was going to cover -- just place them over the amplifier, over the lights. at this point i heard a window open in the bathroom. sounded like the window sliding open. and then i could hear the window hit the frame as if it had slipped to a point where it can't slide anymore. >> is the wood frame window?
3:50 am
>> all of the frames in my house are wooden frames. >> that is the window referred to the in the evidence of the photographer? >> that is correct, my lady. >> what did you think at the time, mr. pistorius? >> my lady, that's the moment that everything changed. i thought that there was a burglar gaining entrane in my home. i was -- i was on the side of the room where you first had to
3:51 am
cross the passage which leads to the -- which leads to the bathroom. i think initially you just froze. i didn't know what to do. i heard this noise and took it as somebody climbing into the bathroom. there's no door between the bathroom and my room. it's all one -- there's a passageway but there's no door. there's a toilet door buts there's no area between me and the bathroom. it's one room. i literally thought, somebody -- if they were at the window where the entrance passage of the passageway could be three or four meters, they could be there at any moment. and the first thing that ran through my mind is that i needed to arm myself, that i needed to protect reeva and i, that i needed to get my gun.
3:52 am
and then i was looking down the passage, scared that the prn er was going to come out. i rushed as quick as i could. i couldn't see anything in the room. i ran with it up in front of me. at times touching the floor and then when i got to my bed i led my way along the side of my bed and i grabbed my -- my firearm from underneath the bed and it had a canvas holster on it. i immediately took it out of the holster.
3:53 am
at that point i just wanted to put myself between -- get back to where the passage was so i could put myself between the person that had gained access to my house and reeva. when i got just before the passage wall i remember slowing down because i was scared that at that point this person had time to get from -- that i left -- where i got my firearm could have possibly already been in the passage, passage. so i slowed down and i had my firearm extended in front of me just as i -- just as i left my bed, i was ming reeva to get down and phone police.
3:54 am
>> as i entered where the passage is, where the closet is to the -- where i entered the passage where the closet is to the -- to the bathroom, it was at that point that i was just overcome with fear and i started screaming and shots for them just to get out of my house. i shouted to reeva to get on the floor. i shouted for her to phone the police. i screamed at the people to get o out. so i made my way down the passage, constantly aware that the threat to these people or persons could come at me at any
3:55 am
time. i didn't have my legs on. just before i got to the wall of the -- where the tiles start in the bathroom i stopped shooting because i was worried if the person knew where i was, i put my head around the corner, that i could get shot. and just before i got to the -- just before i got to the passage of the bathroom i heard a door slam which could have only been the toilet bowl. i couldn't see into the bathroom at this point but i could hear the door slam.
3:56 am
and for me confirm that there was a person or people inside the toilet -- or inside the bathroom at that time. >> mr. pistorius, if i may stop you. i want to talk about the passage, 173. if you're just joining us on "new day" right now, looking at defense counsel in the room. reeva steencamp's family as well as her sister and mother. everyone is emotional as oscar pistorius is recounting the events of the night he killed reeva steencamp.
3:57 am
so far there was a quick adjournment so oscar pistorius could change clothes. he took off his prosthetic legs. he is next to the bathroom door. you cannot see it because he has chosen to have sound played but not picture of his testimony. so far, hes has painted the picture of his fear that night that he went to sleep, he heard a window close. and that is what he says changed everything. he thought it was a burglar. he froze. now you're seeing in front of you the diagram, the counsel has stopped testimony to show the diagram of how the room is set up. you're looking at the hallway between the bed and the bathroom. what this graphic is showing you is where the casings were found to coordinate the story oscar is telling if highlights before we return to testimony is that he says he whispered for reeva steencamp to get down before he did anything. that he shouted for the intruder to get out. that he shouted for reeva
3:58 am
steencamp to call police. these are all going to be critical elements for him and certainly for prosecution. let's listen back in. >> looks like they're still setting up in the courtroom. just to recap a little bit. what you're seeing kind of in the lower left part of your screen, that's reeva steencamp's parents. her mother has really remained stone faced throughout the time that oscar pistorius has been on the stand. it's been really notable as he has been very emotional. as you can see when he's recounting these final moments that she's put her head down, either she doesn't want to see it or she can't handle seeing and hearing it recounted. this all began, this trial began on march 3rd.
3:59 am
and this is the key moment that everyone has been waiting for. both the defense and prosecution waiting to hear from oscar pistorius himself go detail by detail, almost in painstaking detail to recount from his perspective what happened that night. and they are at the key moment as they're now continuing to set up and change things in the room. they're at that key moment when he said he heard a door slam and that confirmed for him that someone was in the bathroom. it sounds like they're going to take a lunch adjournment right now which has been happening really daily, obviously, day by day as we've been following this. you can really see oscar pistorius. you hear during this time as he's recounting it's, chris, that he was emotion. we saw his family in the courtroom wiping away tears. but really can't be over stated how important this moment is not only as he's trying to save his
4:00 am
own life but also for the prosecution because they need to hear from his perspective, his perspective on what happened that night is really the construction of this case. >> as the only one who really know, right? part of his delay is a problem because defense counsel is having trouble getting their visuals in place. they want to show the window, why? it's wooden. they have to go through a three-step analysis for this judge and the jurors. could he hear that window close? it was wooden. it was loud. was he asleep? should he have heard it circumstantially to what was going on, and then did he actually hear it? even the window is going to start this story. they weren't ready. it was a good time to break for lunch. when they come back and they pick that up, it is probably going to be the most important day of testimony for oscar pistorius and then followed by the prosecution. they are taking notes in there as well, i can promise you that. we'll pick it up as soon as they come back for it. right now we want to reset what our top story of the morning.
4:01 am
the search for flight 370. the search area has been down-sized dramatically. it was as big as texas, now it's the size of houston. but that's still about 30,000 square miles. the search for flight 370 all about pinging and ticking this morning. those are search teams trying to find those sounds that are supposedly emanating from the black box. the race is against the battery life. over the weekend the ticking of the clock was growing deafening. we thought they were about to find it. extraordinary race against time is about to become more daunting in the batteries in the plane's black boxes have gone dead. >> 14 planes, 14 ships are in the search zone at this very hour looking for any sign of debris. also, from flight 370. a confirmed sighting could be critical and surprising this this point that they have not seen any debris field. at the very same time sophisticated devices are deep below the surface trying to pick
4:02 am
back up pinger noises that may no longer have any functioning batteries. our coverage of this search for flight 370 is going to start once again this hour with erin mclaughlin life from perth, australia. erin? >> kate, that's right. they have not found any debris from the missing plane nor have they been able to reacquire that signal. but there has been absolutely no let up in this search. today all eyes on that australian vessel. the ocean shield still out there equipped with the american towed ping locator combing the waters in a ladder like formation trying to detect any other signs of those black boxes. they've been unsuccessful so far. but officials here in perth saying they will exhaust every effort to try and make that detection. it's critical to being able to narrow down a potential search field so that they can deploy that blue fin 21, the american
4:03 am
provided underwater autonomous vehicle, to be able to go down and locate wreckage. in the absence of more clues, in the absence of more information, angus houston, the man responsible for this international search effort in a press conference earlier today saying that we could be looking at a very, very, very long time before they're able to locate this wreckage. kate? >> erin, thank you for the update from perth for us this morning. so for more on the search for flight 370 let's dig in deeper with our analysts. sean, air safety expert, and aviation teacher at ohio state university, and mary schiavo, former inspector general for the department of transportation. good morning to both of you. mary, i want to pick right back up where erin left off talking about the effort to reconnect with this ping. this morning the fact that they have not reconnected with any signal, is that -- does that worry you or is that just do you
4:04 am
think part of due course in this search? >> well, there are two worries. one is worse than the other. one worry is, of course, that the batteries has died. and that means that they're going to have to go back to where they heard it before that does leave you with, you know, a five-mile radius or potentially a few miles more. but you have the general area where you heard it. and that means the search is going to be longer with the submersibles but you're in the right area. the other worry, worse worry, is that they really didn't have a black box pinger. they were on to some other signal and now that signal, whatever it was, has moved on in which case we would be back to square one. i don't think that's it. i think they have the signal from the pinger, particularly since they had two separate ones which would be the cv r&d vr. if it's something else we're really back to square one. >> you don't want to hear that at all. saun, i want you to weigh in on
4:05 am
this because angus houston, the man leading the search coordination effort, he said clearly in a press conference that they are going to search with the tow pinger locator. they're going to search for that ping absolutely no chance until there's no chance that the devices are still transmitting. how long does that continue, do you think? how long do they keep hope alive that the device is still transmitting? >> well, as we've all said before, that, you know, 30 days is what the -- from a regulation standpoint required to be active. typically go beyond that. typically once we get out to around five or seven days beyond that, so around 35, 37 days, then we're starting to think that even though every t battery will be a little bit different in its capabilities, probably by that point in time we've exceeded pretty much 99.9% of all the batteries out there.
4:06 am
so, you know, once we get seven days beyond then at that point in time it's extremely unlikely we will still receive a signal. >> at that point, mary, what do you do next? do you -- since there's no debris field to work with, you've got no other clue other than this ping, do you send in the underwater submersible vehicle and hope for a miracle? >> they don't just have to hope for a miracle. they send in the underwater, the submersibles where in the range where they heard the pings. in other words, as they were approaching the ping, got louder and then it got softer as they went away. they think they have a general idea where it was. so they're going to take that area of the ocean floor and divide it up into segments and map the ocean floor and cover that area where it would reasonably be pecked that the wreckage could be if that's where they heard the pings. that's pain staking. if they were right on top of it and fortunate enough to have the
4:07 am
exact coordinates so even then, in the best case scenario, it's going to take several days. but if they were on the fringes of the pinger, you know, out towards the edge of the circle, if you were from the radius of the pinger, then it could take not weeks but months. they will map the ocean floor as if you're crossing off box necessary a cross word. >> that will be a pain staking process if they cannot narrow this downey further. one thing that has bothered me quite a bit, shaun, mary and i have talked about this quite a bit, is the fact that there is no debris field. they have not yet found debris field. what do they need to do to try to locate it at this point? one thing brought up by other experts is that there was a cyclone that went through this region, went through this area some two weeks ago. how would that have impacted how they're going to conduct the search going forward? >> not only because of that but
4:08 am
the time factor in general, we really are doing this backwards which makes it even more extraordinary. what they're going to need to do is work the problem backwards in that once we find or can narrow down an area of boxes then to start looking for the wreckage. you know, we need to be mindful that even if we lose the pinger signal and we continue -- and then end up using the side sonar to start scan for that, the boxes are pretty small. we don't necessarily have to find the box per se right away. but if we can start to find larger pieces of debris that will help us narrow down and understand where the debris field is. and then refocused search for the individual boxes. something else that i wanted to mention that i'm not sure we have talked about in the past is that there have been case where's these pingers are actually removed from the boxes. so during the accident sequence they get ripped off. usually they're found still fairly close, certainly still close to the wreckage field,
4:09 am
just because we can hear pinger and possibly might be able to locate it doesn't mean at that moment we found the box. the box could still be several hundred yards away if not more. so still yet another layer of concern. we're still a long ways from finding a really meaningful data, meaningful information to. he out. >> adding yet another variable to this unprecedented search. we'll continue to watch it. another day to try to reconnect with that ping and search continues. thank you so much. >> thanks. michaela? >> less lot's look at the headl. civil war could bring out in ukraine if they don't pull back. ukrainian forces are fighting pro russian takeovers of government buildings in three cities. an argument broke out in ukraine's parliament today over who is to blame for the expanding crisis with one lawmaker defending the demonstrators. at the white house, president obama will mark national equal payday with executive actions aimed at
4:10 am
narrowing the wage gap between men and women. he will sign two orders. one barring federal contractors from punishing employees who discuss their salaries with co-workers. the other will require contractors to submit additional salary information to the government including breakdowns by gender and race. major recall from ford. 386,000 ford escapes from 2001-2004 are being recalled to fix rusting on a subframe. the issue can cause steering problems. in addition, 49,000 ford fusion, lincoln mkz, escape, and c max cars dating back to last year are also being recalled to replace seat back frames that were not welded properly. that is an alert for those ford customers out there. chris? >> people more keenly aware these days of what's going on with cars as we follow the gm recall situation. let's switch gears. a year ago the university of connecticut wasn't even eligible for the ncaa tournament. they had academic problems and
4:11 am
restricted. this morning they are on top of the world. uconn beat kentucky last night 60-54. they were underdogs by the way. and now national champs. by the way, huskies' fourth title overall. second in four seasons. just for you out there who are saying, oh, they didn't have any right to be there, like me. on the uconn campus celebration turned to mayhem. this happens too often in these situations. police had to make 30 arrests. look at these fools swinging that stop sign around. let's bring in andy shoals lives for us in arlington, texas, with more on the big win. lucky you weren't there on the campus. how was it? how was the game? >> you know, it was an outstanding game. and what a run we've seen from these uconn huskies. chris, no one thought they could do this, not even many people thought they could take down the freshman phenoms from kentucky but they continued to prove all their doubters wrong. as a seventh seed, highest seed to win this tournament in nearly 30 years. as the championship game, 42 and
4:12 am
43 were in the house to wacht, presidents bill clinton and george w. bush. watch the veteran husky jump on the wild cats earlier. never trailed in the game. uconn backboard of shabaz flana led uconn and named the most valuable player. the husky, chris, not even allowed in the tournament last year due to academic problems. now top dogs bringing home their fourth national title since 1999. >> we've been doubted for so long. and we just kept grinding and pushing. you know, it's just so special. >> somebody told me we were cinderellas. i was like, no, we're uconn. i mean, this is what we do. we are born for this. we are breaded to cut down nets. >> after the game on the podium napier actually called out the ncaa saying, we're the hungry huskies. this is what happens when you ban us. we've been working two years for
4:13 am
this. guys, you know he had been waiting a long time to say that. >> had that speech prepared it sounds like. at least it was a good game, well, for some. >> andy, was my lamar mundane rerchsz, was that lost on you? do you remember lamar mundane? >> whew! >> right over your well crossed do. google it. that's who napier was last night when he rained down that 30 footer. he was like in the logo of center court. >> okay, okay, i'll look it up in the break it. >> kills you as a defender to see a guy hit from that range like it was nothing. change the game, i'm telling you. coming up next, we have the technology to find flight 370. but there are so many variables standing in the way. what's slowing down the search effort? we're bgoing to explain. and it could be the most important moment of oscar pistorius' life. pivotal testimony as blade runner tells his side as the night he killed his model
4:14 am
girlfriend. we'll bring you the testimony when it starts. stay with us on "new day." thit's not the "limit yoursh hard earned cash back" card . it's not the "confused by rotating categories" card. it's the no-category-gaming, no-look-passing, clear-the-lane-i'm- going-up-strong, backboard-breaking, cash back card. this is the quicksilver cash back card from capital one. unlimited 1.5% cash back on every purchase, every single day. i'll ask again... what's in your wallet? hey there cashhhhhhp you? (whispering) sorry hi, uh we need a new family plan. how about 10 gigs of data to share and unlimited talk and text. oh ten gigs sounds pretty good. yeah really good. yeah and for your family, it's $160 for four lines.
4:15 am
(breaks whisper) what! get outta here! (whispering) i'm sorry are we still doing the whisper thing? or? o! sorry! yes yes! we'll take it. introducing our best-ever family pricing. for instance, a family of four gets 10 gigs of data, with unlimited talk & text, for $160 dollars a month. only from at&t. frequent heartburn? the choice is yours. chalky. not chalky. temporary. 24 hour. lots of tablets. one pill. you decide. prevacid. ♪ 24 hour (agent) i understand. (dad) we've never sold a house before. (agent) i'll walk you guys through every step.
4:16 am
4:17 am
4:18 am
keep in mind pistorius chose not to be on camera but you can obviously hear him. take a listen. >> just before i got to the -- just before i got to the passage of the bathroom i heard a door slam, which could have only been the toilet door. i couldn't see into the bathroom at this point. i could hear the door slam. and for me confirmed that there was a person or people inside the toilet -- or inside the bathroom at that time. >> all right. now, the woman at the center of your screen there is the judge. and because of that, it is actually helpful to have lawyers analyze this because that's what the judge is. this is not a regular jury as you know. so with the court and break right now when they come back we're going to pick up his testimony live. let's bring in sunny hostin, former prosecutor and great legal analyst. you take the prosecution, i'll take the defense. point one, i'm afraid. i'm afraid. i've been afraid since i was i
4:19 am
was a kid. my mother had a gun under her pillow. i have no legs. this is my nightmare. i want to protect the woman i love the most and when i heard that window slam, it was the beginning of the worst night of my life. compelling terms for setting the stage for my fear and almost inability to act in these circumstances. >> i think it's compelling in terms of his fear. everyone has been talking about the fact that he did not have his prosthetic legs on which means he could certainly be in this state of terror. >> which you denied at first and now given up to my side. you now agree with me, prosecutor. you disagreed with me in the beginning. >> i agree with it because we've heard the forensics of the angle and he got into the courtroom on the witness stand and took his legs off. >> right now we believe he is in the court next to the actual bathroom door without the pros n thet ticks on and gym shorts. hard for the family to watch. that's for sure. my next point? >> hard for oscar pistorius, i
4:20 am
might add. >> how that plays for the judge, we don't know. there was an nod to his us a thennisity chen she allowed when he seemed exhausted and tired and called a break yesterday. >> that was remarkable. we need to look at that because you have a judge listening to all the testimony but she's listening to the testimony much like the jury in the united states would be listening to the testimony and she says he appears to be exhausted. that means that she found him to be credible exhausted. realistically exhausted. i thought that was a nugget, sort of a window into whether or not she believed his testimony and i think she's leaning towards his believability. >> i hear the window slam. it's wooden which means i can hear it slam. before you tell me you can't hear it, it's a quiet window. and i'm in a panic. i know exactly what it is. it's a burglar. the first thing i do, prosecutor, the first thing i do is i tell the woman i love to get down. i whisper to her, get down. and then i make my way over. i don't know where my leg rsz. it's dark.
4:21 am
it's dark in the room. i can't see anything. i shout to the intruder, get out, leave us alone. and then we shout to reeva, call the police. i'm aware of her but i can't see her. it's dark. i don't know where she is and i'm petrified. so i get my gun and i move towards the door to see because i hear the bathroom door slam shut. where is the problem with my story? >> really problematic for oscar pistorius. he's been wearing prosthetic legs since he was a year old. you mean to pell me -- they're right by his bed. you mean to tell me he doesn't t put them on? that doesn't make sense. another thing that doesn't make sense in a real world sense, if you are truly in fear, the one person you want to protect is is in bed with you. you don't touch that person, you don't lean over, you don't make sure that she is in bed right next to you? and not the person that you're hearing in the bathroom. that doesn't make sense. it doesn't make common sense. i think that is the significant problem with oscar pistorius' story. >> let's play that part of the sound right now so you can get a sense for yourself of how he
4:22 am
laid it out. this is how he describes hearing the rustling in his bed. >> that's the moment that everything changed. i thought that there was a burglar that was gaining entrance to my home. i was on the side of the room where you first had to cross the passage which leads to the -- which leads to the bathroom. initially i was surprised. i didn't know what to do. i heard this noise. i interpreted it as somebody climbing into the bathroom. there's no door between the bathroom and my room. it's all one -- there's a passageway but there's no door. there's a toilet door but there's no area between me and bathroom. it's one -- one room. i literally thought that
4:23 am
somebody -- if they were at the window to where the passage entrance of the passage was, could be three or four meters, they could be there at any moment. and first -- the first thing that ran through my mind was that i needed to arm myself, that i needed to protect reeva and i, they needed to get my gun. >> so there ltht it is. i had no time to do anything else, you with the checking and the asking and the talking. there's somebody who is coming into my bathroom to kill me. i've lived in fear of this my entire life. i have to get my gun so i can protect us. >> his gun is under his bed where his prosthetic legs are and the same bed that reeva steencamp is in. it just doesn't really make sense. >> i'm focused on the threat. they're right there in the bathroom. three or four meters away. >> i think if you have the time to go to the bed to get your gun, you have the time to put your legs on and you have the time to make sure that reeva is in bed and safe.
4:24 am
it just -- his story falls apart right then and there. >> only if you can put a whole lot of other factors on the menu. that i have a reason to want to kill her, that there's nothing reasonable to my story. that there's only one other possibility that makes any sense, proved beyond a reasonable doubt, which is that i intended to kill her or i lost it that night. and that's why he's reading the texts saying we loved each other, i got the card with ozzy on it. >> sure. there's this testimony of i think that indicates it was a volatile relationship, that he's a volatile person that he was jealous, that they were arguing that night, and that's the one thing that he sort of glossing over in his testimony and i suspect our cross-examination we're going to hear a lot about it. you've not not one, not two, but several witnesses, ear witnesses saying i heard blood curdling screams. i heard an argument. what does he do with that? what does he do with that?
4:25 am
>> it was me. >> that doesn't -- that i scream like a girl when i'm panicked just doesn't make a lot of sense. >> beyond a ronl doubt. that's why this testimony is so important. there's only one bhoon knows whachd a what happened ands he's on the stands right now. >> he's the only person alive that knows what happened. >> the only one who can testify. certainly the prosecutor is listening. what attitude will they take, where will they find the holes? you're laying out good ones this morning. thank you very much. we're going to come back to the pistorius trial the moment it resumes. it's adjourned at the moment. we're also going to go inside politics in just a moment where it's equal payday. the pay gap between men and women is a real thing and it reaches even into barack obama's white house. ameriprise asked people a simple question: can you keep your lifestyle in retirement? i don't want to think about the alternative. i don't even know how to answer that. i mean, no one knows how long their money is going to last.
4:26 am
i try not to worry, but you worry. what happens when your paychecks stop? because everyone has retirement questions. ameriprise created the exclusive confident retirement approach. to get the real answers you need. start building your confident retirement today. at your ford dealer think? they think about tires. and what they've been through lately. polar vortexes, road construction, and gaping potholes. so with all that behind you, you might want to make sure you're safe and in control. ford technicians are ready to find the right tires for your vehicle. get up to $120 in mail-in rebates on four select tires when you use the ford service credit card at the big tire event. see what the ford experts think about your tires. at your ford dealer.
4:27 am
4:28 am
4:29 am
welcome back to "new day." almost half past the hour. search teams still unable to relocate those pinger sounds in the hunt for flight 370. the search zone narrowing to 30,000 square miles. 14 planes, 14 ships looking for debris today. sophisticated listening devices under the water. but the batteries in the plane's black backes may already be drained. unmanned sub is at the ready if another signal is detected. russia says ukraine's use of force in eastern regions could lead to civil war. they've been trying to fend off russian takeovers in government buildings in three cities. they appear to have control of one building. earlier today there was a fistfight in ukraine's parliament after one member suggested that ukraine was to blame for the crisis. right now diplomats from six countries are in vienna for
4:30 am
talks with iran on its nuclear program. all five permanent security council nations plus germany are involved in this third round of talks. they want to run to scale back to the nuclear program so it can't quickly develop a weapon. they say the program is peaceful and wants more sanctions lifted. they are still far apart on key issues. part of the south are recovering after stormy weather rolled through alabama. rescuers had to take to dozens of boats to get to dozens of people stranded in their homes and cars. there was also flash flood warning or at least flash flooding near atlanta and tornadoes in mississippi. damaging about 70 homes. at least two people were killed in the storms including a 9-year-old little girl. devastation there in the south certainly. chris, those are your headlines. let's get to inside politics on "new day" with john king. power to the people. that's where ted cruz is all about, john. he's not a conservative, he's a
4:31 am
populous. >> he had a big win in the senate yesterday. we'll talk about that in a second as we go inside politics. good morning to you in new york. good morning to you watching at home. margaret of the bloomberg news. let's start with the white house. the president today will sign a couple executive orders to advance the cause of equal pay for women. let's call this a textbook case of do as i say, not as i do. as white house says women should be treated equally, jay carney, the press secretary, was asked yesterday about this statistic. women at the house get 88 cents on the dollar compared to men, jay carney says, well, we're making progress. >> we are, as an institution here, progressed, addressed this challenge. and obviously though at the 88 cents that you cite, that is not 100 but it is better than the national average. >> it's better than the national average. i guess the coach would say, is that the best you got? >> kind of the best they had. i mean, jay carney's issue with
4:32 am
the way these issues are aggregated is fine except for the problem is it's the same way the national numbers are aggregated. he's saying it's apples and oranges, the statistics are more complicated than you show. take the average and that includes women with lower paid jobs on the bottom and, you know, if you compare deputy chief of staff to deputy chief of staff they make the same money. critics of this sort of 77 cents number say the same thing which is i more comp my indicated than it seems. somebody in the white house. >> this is not new. in 2011 there was a study that said women at the white house made 18% less than their male counter parts. when barack obama was in the united states senate a study found, across all congressional offices not just his, the man on average made $54,000. the women on average, $45,000 a year. he knows his sticking his hand in this blender. >> that's right. clearly not the message they want to send on equal payday. the democrats will say we're pushing measures that actually, that women do support things
4:33 am
that are easy to point to on the campaign trail, the so-called paycheck fairness act coming up in the senate this week. there is a rallying cia in these democratic states where these members are up in the very key senate races, where they need a majority of women to come out to the polls to have them keep their majority. look, they may have their own problems but on the campaign trail, they believe they have things they can point to to put the republicans on the defense. >> another thing they want to point to is this jobless, extended unemployment benefits. it passed the senate yesterday with 59 votes. that us didn't happen in america anymore. a number of republicans decided we want to do this. they send it over to the house. why, manu, are they saying, eh? >> a rebellion among conservatives. they don't believe this is the right policy to go forward with. they think there needs to be more job creation measures rather than measures to help folks ware unemployed. they believe there's no measure to pass a five-month measure,
4:34 am
not a long-term reform of this program. the pressure from boehner is going to come from a number of these members who are in tough districts where unemployment rate is high. places in new jersey, new york, and nevada where they're in tough races as well as some of these house members who are running for the senate in places like montana and arkansas, colorado, where they actually may need to pass something to push back against democrats. >> to what thant that point, i w you a map. see all that red? those are the house districts. that is the republican house right there. the blue are the democratic districts. mostly on the coast as you see there. and most of those red, conservative lawmakers, margaret, they don't feel pressure to do this because they're safe a back home. would the president say the senate democrat, let's give them what they want. let's give the house republicans some job creating, tax cuts, financial incentives, or would they prefer instead of having legislati
4:35 am
legislation, have the issue? >> i think there will be an unemployment insurance continuation because there have been repeatedly, after these protracted debates. the woman pay issue and long-term unemployment issue, if you're watching this from the sideline ansd you're a woman, if ki get more money out of this, that's cool. if you're un-term unemployed you're thinking, look, i don't care how we get there. both of these issues, because it's an election year, it's going to tick way deep entire the calendar until was see how it comes out in the wash. no, i don't think the long-term goal of the white house is to scrap coverage for people unemployed to prove a point. >> senator harry reid, majority leader, has been making issues of the coke brothers. he's doing it over and over and over again including this on the senate floor yesterday. >>s nascar fans can easily find their favorite drivers by simply looking at the cars as they fly by because there are corporate emblems on the hood of the car. senators these days might as well where koch industry.
4:36 am
>> as they wear blue and gray and black suits on the senate floor he wants to have the koch monitored for all the republican senators. a lot of people look at senator reid, huh, where are we going here? >> you know, it's really kind of curious because most americans don't know who the koch brothers are. it's almost a message to the democratic donor base to scare them into action and to put money into the democratic super pac or campaign committees, money to push back against the ads because the koch brother group, americans for prosperities, pummeling democrats in all these key states and races, do you think that average middle of road voter nose the koch brothers are we behind these ads? probably not at the end of the day. if anything else, it's about trying to get old folk tons democratic side to open their wallets so they can push back. >> they did galvanized democrats in that summer of 2010, the bus
4:37 am
tour of the anti-obamacare summer. that's when the koch brothers became the george soros of the republican party. when you start insulting nascar fans you're opening up a whole other can of worms. >> ted cruz is not known as a senator, freshman senator of texas. publicly called him a jerk. however, a big victory. yesterday the senate passed his legislation that would bar iran's choice to be the next united nations ambassador from iran from entering the country. listen to him talking about his legislation. >> he is a known terrorist. he participated in holding americans hostage for 444 days. now, listen, they're naming him was a deliberate slap in the face. it was intended to be ccontemtu
4:38 am
for america. >> they said two republicans he sparred in the senate and chuck schumer, pat leahy looked at ted cruz, get out of here, it's a good day for him. >> actually getting a bill done rather than blocking a bill. it's been interesting to see cruz take a more hawkish line on the national security matters. more hawkish than one of his potential 2016 counter parts rand paul. this is an effort since the ukraine vote for cruz to show himself more of -- burnish those nasa security credentials. this is an example of that. >> if the house passes this and it's a signing ceremony, do you think we could see ted cruz in the white house? >> the president and his team are uncomfortable about this guy being the envoy and his hands being on that at all. fascinating story. >> bipartisan moment for ted cruise. as we get back to new york,
4:39 am
bipartisan moment, bill clinton and his brother from another mother as the bush family says, george w. bush t in the box. last night do we have this picture? oh, i thought we had it. >> we're going to act it out. >> there we go right there. >> ex-presidents get along watching a little basketball last night. my bracket went to toast, i think, on the second day. how about you guys? >> if you recall, john king, i was doing quite well. but then everything blew up. >> congratulations to the huskies. that's all we can say. >> do we even know? did clinton or bush do a bracket? >> i don't know. we'll find out. >> john king? >> we'll have it for you tomorrow. >> john king, inside politics. >> inside bracketology. >> when you say i was doing quite well, do you mean like the royal i, team that comprises i. >> i specifically scouted the teams. >> really? oh, your nose right in my eye. >> i had a smart husband who
4:40 am
helped me out. i was over seas. >> the truth, #truth. let's break here. when we come back we told you about the pings. crews are looking for the pings. that's how they believe they're going to get the location of flight 370. we're going to look at how the pinger works and how crews are working to establish contact. we're also, there's mick and jeff wise getting ready to do the pinger thing. that's going to be good. we're also wait for oscar pistorius to resume his testimony. he's talking about the moment he shot his girlfriend. we're going to bring you that we're going to bring you that live when it starts. t i'm wearing, bring you that live when it starts. i tell them aveeno®. because beautiful skin goes with everything. [ female announcer ] aveeno® daily moisturizing lotion has active naturals® oat with five vital nutrients naturally found in healthy skin. where do i wear aveeno®? everywhere. aveeno® daily moisturizing lotion.. and try the body wash too.
4:42 am
4:44 am
. welcome back to "new day." the australian department of defense has released audio and video of the possible pings picked up by search vessel ocean shield. these are a computer-generated version of the actual sound. i want you to take a listen. you have to really listen but they're at one-second intervals. right? the signals detected this weekend could they be from flight 370's data recorder? that's the big question. searchers have not been able to relocate those signals leading some to wonder if the battery on the pinger may have died. jeff wise joins me here on the
4:45 am
giant map. somewhere in the south indian ocean here trying to recreate what some of the technology is being used to look for, the pinger. we've talked about this. it's a little heavy. jeff, you can hold it. >> okay. >> let's turn it up. this is the device that they're using. and we can already hear -- >> right. we're actually picking up the ping that's released by an actual pinger like the one on the plane. >> this is the one that the chinese were using. >> right. this is a handheld version. this is designed to be held by sue scuba divers searching in shallow water. you don't hear it anymore and then back, now i aim back at it you can hear it. there's a little compass on top. when you're searching underwater you can say, okay, i'm pointing east, therefore -- >> put it closer to the water. part of the circuit that needs to be complete sd that this device and that device would be in the water. you can even submerge it. you won't be electrocuted.
4:46 am
>> you're sure? >> i'm positive. you can see how that does to it. i'll turn it down a little bit so we can talk. the frequency is 37.5. that's the standard frequency. why was that chosen? >> this is an actual pinger like in the plane, as i said. 37.5 kilohertz. that's a frequency that not many things in nature makes that frequency. therefore, it's going to be pretty quiet. the ocean is very noisy. sounds travels much better through water than air because it's a denser median. that means the sound can travel further. the downside is that everything that's making noise t in the ocean all piles up. >> again, this is the device. this is the little thing that they're so desperately searching for. >> tyiny little thing. it looks like a salt shaker. >> we've talked about this technology. we want to just show it to.
4:47 am
it's similar technology but not the same as the tpo that's being towed behind the ocean shield. give us an idea of its capability. >> the idea there is it's a similar kind of device. it's basically a microphone. but it's attached to this thing that's pulled underneath the surface. >> sure. >> it can go very deep. thousands of feet under the water. you're able to get closer to the bottom of the ocean, closer to the sound if it's down there. and it's also shaped in such a way that it acts like a lens -- mirror of a telescope. more sophisticated. >> in terms of even it because it's more powerful and it will detect a farther range, it still has some challenges because the ocean at that point, you were talking about false positives. >> right. >> give us an idea of what you mean by that. >> basically when you're looking for a highly improbable event, we're talking like maybe a one in a million chance of finding this thing in the vastness of the ocean. the idea they happen to hit upon the right spot on their first try. remember, this thing can only -- even a sophisticated tow fish
4:48 am
that's been pulled behind the ocean shield, even that can detect it within a range of a mile or two. you're talking about an ocean that is hundreds of thousands of square miles. the chances that you're going to be right there in that specific spot are very unlikely. >> again, time is running out. if the batteries have not died, there is a concern they are about to so there's thus the urgency to find this so they can begin to locate that wreckage and begin to solve this mystery. >> it's going to be a very tough job to find this without the pinger. >> we've got to turn that off now. it's making me crazy. jeff wise and chinese pinger locator. fantastic. >> the sound is becoming the tell-tale heart of this sued you. i'm going to hear it forever. >> that's right. let's take another break. coming up next, oscar pistorius about to resume his testimony in south africa. we will have it for you -- we'll have it for you live. and we're also going to be talking about the signals picked up by the pinger locator. they are promising but the search for flight 370 is far
4:49 am
4:50 am
[ female announcer ] we eased your back pain, you turned up the fun. tylenol® provides strong pain relief while being gentle on your stomach. but for everything we do, we know you do so much more. tylenol®. we know you do so much more. hot breakfast options. hampton, enjoy our free you did a great job. it looks good! then fuel up with up to 9,000 hhonors bonus points
4:52 am
welcome back to "new day." the search for flight 370 is in full force yet again this morning trying to locate the black box using a pinger locator. here with us at the big map, the retired lieutenant corner in the british military, and also a cnn aviation analyst. good morning once again. talk about the technology. it's fascinating, for us not familiar with it. first let's put up the animation
4:53 am
of the towed pinger locator, what everyone has come to know so well. it does this mowing along, call it a lap climber strategy. what is that the most effective way? >> expect the long haul, we do have the technology, kate, but it's a very complex search and the technology has its limitations. for instance, the pinger locator has a four-mile cable, and it is towed through the water at about one to two miles an hour. it you're searching an area seven miles long that can take up to seven miles an hour. when they get to the end they have to slowly pull in the ping locator, a sensitive piece of technology, four miles of cable. that's a lot of cable to pull in. turn the ship around. we've seen the size, and then redeploy out again and go one to two miles. so within 24 hours you're only going to get potentially one to two sweeps in. >> and that's why you see -- we see that 24-hour clock, and it really explains. while they say they're working
4:54 am
irnld around the clock. eight hours for one turn, you might only get three turns if everything's working like clockwork. >> a good point. haven't factored in weather or anything going wrong with the technology and other ships in the area as well. we know from some of the first signals, in e have to stop, turn everything off are and then zone in. >> talk about the other technologies at play and go to the magic wall for that. the utter silence that is needed, i find fascinating. it's how sensitive they really need to listen in to everything. start. get to the pinger locator again in a second, but this is the diver pinger locator, this is what the chinese used. what are the limitations of this device? >> this is very rudimentary piece of equipment. when we're looking at the depths, of up to 5,000 meters -- this isn't going to be very useful at all. i mean it doesn't filter out any of the noise.
4:55 am
go on to the next animation. >> this is the towed locator, what everyone the focused on. >> if anything's going to spot it, this thing will, pick up a signal. we need to point out, that this is trying to pick up the strength of this signal. so as it passes across the top, the strength is going to increase to here, and then as it moves away from the signal, it's going to decrease again. what it needs to do is it needs to triangulate that through three separate runs. >> sounds easy, when we see an animation like this. of course it will pick it up, as soon as it floats right over it, is pulled right over it, it's going to pick it up, but so many variables. the topography that can block if it's even going to be heard. right? >> absolutely. we've heard the salinity, amount of salt in the water, temperature and pressure, the three key things to affect any signal. >> next, bluefin 21.
4:56 am
underwater submersible, very high-tech and what they want to get to do put in the water but say they're not going to put it in until they narrow the field, until they hear a ping again. why is that? >> i think that's absolutely right. this works on passive sonar. this listening tore the pifor t. this works on active sonar. it's pushing energy out into the water. if it hits debris it will sense that and pull it back in. this is actually looking for debris. you can bolt things on to this, lights, and detecting the earth's field. there are lots of capabilities of blueray has. we know this is a critical part of the time line at the moment. in the batteries go, then this is going to be rendered useless. what the chief master of houston has said, if it is rendered
4:57 am
useless he'll put it in the water anyway. over 34,000 kilometers that's going to take a long, long time. we have to build expectations for the long haul. >> 30,000 square miles is better than they were dealing with originally but nowhere what they want to pus this mithing in the water. >> a great point. an area of over 10 million miles. down to 3x3. >> still not there. a lot of work ahead, but they say they have maybe days, they hope, lasting still on that battery in the black box. thank you, michael. good to see you. a break. coming up on "new day," the oscar pistorius expected to resume any moment. oskcar back on the stand continuing his recount of the night he shot reeva steenkamp. it's expected to resume momentarily. when it does, we will bring it to you live. polar vortexes,
4:58 am
road construction, and gaping potholes. so with all that behind you, you might want to make sure you're safe and in control. ford technicians are ready to find the right tires for your vehicle. get up to $120 in mail-in rebates on four select tires when you use the ford service credit card at the big tire event. see what the ford experts think about your tires. at your ford dealer. but with less energy, moodiness, and a low sex drive, i had to do something. i saw my doctor. a blood test showed it was low testosterone, not age. we talked about axiron the only underarm low t treatment that can restore t levels to normal in about two weeks in most men. axiron is not for use in women or anyone younger than 18 or men with prostate or breast cancer. women, especially those who are or who may become pregnant, and children should avoid contact where axiron is applied as unexpected signs of puberty in children or changes in body hair or increased acne in women may occur. report these symptoms to your doctor. tell your doctor about all medical conditions and medications.
4:59 am
serious side effects could include increased risk of prostate cancer, worsening prostate symptoms, decreased sperm count, ankle, feet or body swelling, enlarged or painful breasts, problems breathing while sleeping and blood clots in the legs. common side effects include skin redness or irritation where applied, increased red blood cell count, headache, diarrhea, vomiting, and increase in psa. ask your doctor about axiron.
5:01 am
...work with equity experts... ♪ ...who work with regional experts... ♪ ...who work with portfolio management experts, that's when expertise happens. mfs. because there is no expertise without collaboration. breaking news. oscar pistorius is on the stand giving his side of the story the night he shot and killed his girlfriend reeva steenkamp. let's go live to the courtroom in south africa and listen in.
5:02 am
>> the -- that's the entrance of the bathroom. at the end of the passage where i stopped screaming. it was certain the intruders were me -- >> i ask you again to raise up your voice, please. >> i'm sorry, my lady. at that point i was entering the bathroom, i was not shouting or screaming, i was -- at that point i thought that the intruder, intruders, were going to come around the corner, can in the bathroom at that time. >> look at photo 83.
5:03 am
all right. if you're joining us just now, we picking up as the oscar pistorius was resuming after a short adjournment. it looks like obviously counsel is discussing this. to recap what we've been listening to all morning is -- oscar pistorius and really the critical moment of this trial taking the stand to give his side of the story. i think it's resuming right now. so let's listen back in. >> -- to the bathroom, was walking with my left hand against the cabinets, against the closets, as far away from the entrance of the bathroom as i possibly could be. when i got to the point in the bottom right-hand side of the photo, i peered -- i had my
5:04 am
right -- my pistol in my right hand and i peered into the bathroom. i then made my way pretty much to where the carpets and the tile meet on the left-hand side where the arrow is. the surface changed, and where i can walk more comfortably on the carpet, i wasn't able to walk as there's not much mobility on the tile surfaces. i kept my left hand behind me and my shoulder against the wall, and i had my pistol raised to my eye, to the corner of the entrance of the bathroom. at this point here. >> if you could just show the court, perhaps, maybe if i can
5:05 am
just ask the assistant, can you demonstrate again, mr. pistorius? that they can make just bring that arrow there. there. for a little room. have you seen where they were indicating? is that the exact place? >> that's correct, my lady. there was no lights in the bathroom. i could see, as i slowly peered into the bathroom, i could see that the window was open, ind d indeed. i was pretty much on my -- went back against the wall with my hand, up against the wall to use as balance. i was leaning with my back slowly scuffling along the
5:06 am
left-hand side wall. i wasn't sure if the, if there were people, or intruders wr in the toilet or if they were on a ladder that they would have used to gain access to the first floor, or if they were around the corner at that point. i slid my firearm in front of me and i peered around the corner to look where the shower was, which was around, in the bathroom, in line with the toilet. >> and i show you photo 180.
5:07 am
>> the shower that you referred to? >> the top right side of the -- is the shower. i peered around this corner, which is in the bottom right-hand side of the frame. at that point i saw that there was no one in the bathroom. the door was closed with the toilets and the window was open. once i saw in a there wasn't anybody around the corner waiting to attack me, i retreated a little bit, maybe a step or two back, still with my hand against the walls, i slid my back and my shoulder to help
5:08 am
me balance. at this point i started screaming again for reeva to phone the police. i wasn't sure where to point the firearm. i had it pointed at the toilet, but my eyes were going between the window and the toilet. i stood there for some time not sure how long. i wasn't sure somebody was going to come out of the toilet to attack me. i wasn't sure if someone was going to come up the ladder and point a firearm in my house and start shooting, and so i just stayed where i was and i kicked, and screaming, and then i heard a noise from inside the toilet
5:09 am
what i perceived to be someone coming out the toilet. before i knew it i fired four shots at the door. my ears were ringing. i couldn't hear anything. so i shot -- i kept on shouting for reeva to phone the police. i was still scared to retreat, because i wasn't sure if there was somebody on the ladder. i wasn't sure if there was somebody in the toilet. i don't know how long i stood there for. i shouted for reeva. at some point i decided to -- to walk back to the room, because i couldn't hear anything. my ears were ringing. i couldn't hear if there was a response or not. i didn't have the phone on me.
5:10 am
i walked -- i walked with my hand on the left hand cupboards with my firearm still raised. i kept on shouting for reeva. i didn't hear anything. as this point it then occurred to me that yet it could be reeva in the bathroom. i still thought there would be intruders that were possibly in the toilet, or on the ladder outside the house. i retreated back to a point where i got to the corner of the bed. my hand out on the bed and i tried to lift myself up. i was talking to reeva. there was no -- nobody -- no one responded to me. at that point i lifted myself up on to the bed and i closed my hand back to the right-hand side of the bed and i looked -- um, i
5:11 am
thought if reeva was there and i couldn't feel anything, and at that point the first thing i thought was maybe that she got down on to the floor. like i told her to. maybe she was just scared. so i said -- um -- i can't remember what i said, but i was trying to talk out to her, and i kept my firearm, the whole time i moved along the bed backwards, i kept my firearm at the passage, there was not much light coming out, but i didn't want to even keep my -- take my eyes off the, where the closet was. i then -- i think it was at that point, my lady, that -- that it first dawned upon me that it
5:12 am
could be reeva that was in the bathroom, or in the toilet. i jumped out of the other side of the bed and i ran myself along the curtains to see that she wasn't hiding behind the curta curtain. i couldn't see much in the room, but i could see where the passage was, and i felt around and made my way back up the passage, i slid my firearm in front of me. at this point i was mixed with emotions. i didn't know if -- i didn't want to believe that it could be reeva inside the toilet. i was still scared that maybe somebody was coming in to attack me or us. i made my way back to, inside the -- inside the bathroom and i walked up to the, up to the bathroom door.
5:13 am
i tried to grab the handle and rip open the door, push the door open, and it was locked. i then took -- for the first time i turned around with my back facing the bathroom. i ran back to the room, and i opened the curtains. i shouted from the balcony, from the doors, and i shouted from the balcony for help, screamed, help, help, help. i screamed for somebody to help me, and then -- i -- i put my
5:14 am
prosthetic legs on. i ran as fast as i could back to the bathroom. i ran into the door. it didn't move at all. i went back and i tried to kick the door. nothing happened. i was -- i was just panicked at this point. i didn't really know what to make, or what to do. i ran back to the bedroom where the cricket bat was between the cabinets and the door. >> were you screaming at that stage? >> i was screaming and shouting the whole time, crying out. i was -- i didn't think -- i couldn't -- i don't think i've ever screamed like that or cried like that or screamed or -- i was crying out for the lord to help me. i was crying out for reeva. i was screaming.
5:15 am
5:16 am
stage, my lady. i don't remember switching it on. i remember it being on when i kicked the door. i ran straight up to the door, and i started hitting it. i think i hit it three times, and the first time i hit it, i -- i remember hitting -- i hit the frame of the door, and the shock on my hands. a small piece was open. at that point all i wanted to do was look inside to see if it was reeva.
5:17 am
>> i then hit the door. i think i hit the door three times, and it was a big plank. i grabbed it with my hands and i threw it out into the bathroom. i leaned over the middle partition -- i tried to open the door from the inside, but there was no key in the door and i leaned over the middle partition of the door and saw the key was on the floor at that point. all i wanted to do was just climb over the toilet over the middle part of the door. once i leaned over the partition to get in, to get the keys i took them and i threw the door open and i sat over reeva and i cried, and, i don't know. i don't know how long. i don't know how long i was there for.
5:18 am
she wasn't breathing. [ crying ] >> we'll take a moment. right there, the judge just asked for adjournment because oscar pistorius, breaking up on the stand. obviously weeping. we're not seeing the testimony. no defense witness is on camera, but we hear his testimony, and that is interesting in and of itself and a good place to jump off our analysis of what we heard so far. >> you can hear the wailing in the courtroom. >> not usual for a judge to call adjournment when someone gets emotional on the stand. >> i've never seen it. i've seen people get emotional on the stand, and the judge said, take a moment, and we continue. i don't think i've ever seen a guest on the stand that weepy, that emotional. that could cut both ways. right? i think perhaps some sensitivity the judge may feel.
5:19 am
perhaps the judge thinks it's because he's being credible, but perhaps it's because he's a highly volatile, emotional person, prone to outbursts. perhaps someone that sort of flips off, and is capable of losing it and killing someone, because therapy in the heat of an argument. so i'm not sure about the emotion that we're seeing today, and that we've seen. >> and, yes, because this is the second time she's taken an adjournment because he has broken down. >> exactly. >> what we've been listening to is him recounting for the families in excruciating detail of what happened that night. none of it is maybe so much a surprise as kind of the record is out there of what he has said, but what he is trying to establish and what the defense is trying to establish is that he was afraid. he was afraid for his life. he was in a vulnerable position. is he being successful in trying to convey that? >> you know, i'm not so sure, and, of course, i'm a former prosecutor. so i tend to look at things in a
5:20 am
different way, but it just doesn't make sense to me. >> it doesn't all add up to you? >> it doesn't all add up, and that's what i always did when i was a prosecutor. i wanted to make sure that it just mace common sense. the story that i was telling to the jury, and in this, what bothers me the most, when you boil it all down and get rid of all the other details, when he thinks there is an intruder in the bathroom, and he is yelling out to reeva, repeatedly, he says, he's yelling ot ining ou get down. yells into the bathroom, leave us alone. why doesn't she ever say, hello! it's me! i'm in the bathroom. that really, really bothers me, and i just can't imagine that the judge listening to this doesn't bring her real world experience into the courtroom and think, but why didn't reeva ever say anything? >> well, but -- here's the thing. there's a great answer to your question. >> are you sure? >> yeah. and here's -- not what happened. the point is, i'm oscar pistorius. i don't have to prove to you
5:21 am
what happened. that's your job, mr. prosecutor, madam prosecutor, and you're the one who has to come up with a better story than mine. it has to be beyond a reasonable doubt. poke all the holes want in my story, you better have a good one yourself, in fact, a better one, and i actually am surprised by a lot of the things that he's saying, because despite and above and beyond what's been in the record already, he is laying out that he was aware of reeva. he did call out to her. he was -- it wasn't that he just ignored it and it's convenient, and then the emotion. which way that plays. that's a fair point of suspicion right now. this is unusual, but we don't know this judge. we don't know how her head works at trial. robin has been watching in there. we can't see oscar, she can. joining us from pretoria now, robin, what was that breakdown? how did that play in the courtroom? what do you think motivated the judge to adjourn? >> reporter: well, i think it was just so emotional. he was sobbing so
5:22 am
uncontrollably. as you said it is slightly unusual. neither side asked for an adjournment. it was the judge herself who took it into her own hands to say, listen, enough. stop. give him a break. and also you heard a court orderly after she had left the room and you still heard oscar pistorius heaving, basically trying to come to terms whip what he just said and they actually said, move him away from the microphone. so i think this is a court very much aware not only of the fact this is very traumatic for both sides involved but all broadcast to the world, and i think they don't want to turn this into some sort of circus, some soap opera. ooo-a i think that's why there's a sense of caution particularly by the judge herself. >> robin what we can see, because we cannot see him on the stand. we've been seeing images of both families. his family and reeva steenkamp's family. they've been showing images of them. june, her mother, has really
5:23 am
remained very stoic throughout his testimony, until today. what have you seen from her? >> reporter: absolutely. she has been sitting there stony faced at times and emotional. just remember, yesterday, when he turned and looked at her, directly looking to apologize to the mother of the woman he killed, again, she really had very little emotion on her face. what is also important about today, though is that she did bow her head as she was holding her head in her hands during some of this testimony. there was some sort of response. her lawyer next to her occasionally putting his arm around her, but she has been incredibly strong, i think. also, remember, her father has not been here throughout all of this. we understand he's quite ill, and perhaps wouldn't have been able to take this kind of graphic detail. >> so that was counsel sitting next to the mother, who was cautioning, kind of guiding her when to look down based on how
5:24 am
gruesome the photos are being raised there. sunny asked an interesting question. the judge. what do we know about her in terms of hess disprecision towards testimony? is it unusual for her to take adjou adjournments like this? is she showing unusual sensitivity? >> i think we lost her. >> it remains an open question. >> we'll reconnect with robyn in a second. >> the main thing is this, laying out the story of what happened. he is clearly making a case that everything he did made sense under the circumstances. you were pointing out parts that don't make sense and for you it begins right with his initial reaction to the idea that there is an intruder in the bathroom. >> yeah. and that is because i think we've all been in bed with our partner, with our loved one, and have heard something go bump in the night. my first reaction is to make sure that my husband is in bed with me, and i usually ask. hey, did you hear that? he has done the same thing to me. and so i just -- it doesn't make
5:25 am
a lot of sense to me that the one person that he wanted to protect, he doesn't secure. he just shouts. and it also doesn't make sense to knee if, indeed, he is shouting to her, which is what he says. he's not saying i whispered to her. he's shouting to her. there is never a response from reeva. there's never a response from the bed, there's never a response from the toilet. hey, it's me. calm down. that just doesn't make sense, and i think when the judge is listening to that, the judge is going to have to use her common sense as well. >> i think we've reconnected with robyn kcurnow. she was inside the courthouse and just came out to talk with us. >> reporter: in reference to the points made now, we must be careful giving an opinion how any of us would react, somebody else or a partner would react and what we believe to be the same situation. just remember, this is very much part of the defense's case,
5:26 am
oscar pistorius is going to argue that perhaps he's reacting differently to a perceived threat, because of his history, his fear of crime, and particularly because he is, was not on his prosthetics, that he is a dump amputee that he did feel more vulnerable under the same circumstances and crucially, in terms of his defense, i think, he told a story on the stand yesterday where he described how when he was a little boy and his mother sent him to school and he was getting bullied because he had no legs and he came home the one day and his mother said to him, in this family, you stick up for yourself. you're alone. you go and fight it out. you deal with that problem. and he went back and had a fight with the kids who were bullying him, and his mother made a point of saying, you stand up for yourself, and i think crucially, you do it on your own, and this is a family throughout his childhood, where this has been reinforced over and over again, that you kind of attack the danger.
5:27 am
you go towards it, to protect yourself, and this is something that the defense is going to build on. he might seem irrational, perhaps to you and me, but in terms of their argument, this is how oscar pistorius was thinking at that moment based on his childhood and based on the fact that he had a physical disability. >> robyn, i also want to get more of your perspective, because you have the unique perspective of being inside the courtroom and being able to see oscar pistorius on the stand. at one point before they adjourned, a short time ago, they had him kind of re-enact, he took off his prosthetics. he put on his gym shorts, if you will. the way he looked when he was getting into bed that night. talk us through that. >> well, it was quite powerful. that says it was also very short. it was -- a moment in time essentially. basically, he went out of the courtroom, changed from out of his suit and tie, into, like you
5:28 am
say, his sweats. he then went and stood in front of the door that's there as evidence, looming over the courtroom every day. so you got a sense of his height in relation to the bullet holes in the door. then he sat down, took off his prosthetics, stood up against so you could see how much shorter he was in relation to, again, the bullet holes in the door and, of course, he's much shorter without his prosthetics on and then very quickly they were back on and he was back on the dock. it wasn't a labored -- the point wasn't very theatrical. in fact, the defense probably could have drawn it out a little bit more. it was very brief, but very powerful, and i think that's also something that's going to be explored further by the defense. just how vulnerable he is, how small he is compared to, you know, the oscar pistorius who's apparently the superstar and this discrepancy between the image of himself and this vulnerable young man who made this fatal error, or not, that night.
5:29 am
>> one problem that he's going to have, robyn curnow. we'll come back to you when testimony resumes and get your take on that part of it. if what robyn says it true, and i don't know that is, but if it's true that he has this background, he's got a problem, because if he is this man who always takes on anger and he takes itten 0 and he is a frayed afraid of nothing and fights for himself, then everything he just said on the stand is a lie. because he says he was afraid he couldn't take on anything. he was petrified, didn't know what to do. felt it was the only thing he could do. >> because of in a state of terror. >> not aggressive at all. could have put on his legs and seay i'm going to -- that would have been consistent. makes more fault to what sunny is saying. default to what a reasonable person is saying in circumstances and even those she's a judge, she's deciding the case and bringing her own set of what's reasonable. >> as i recall, i believe she's a former crime reporter as well
5:30 am
as perhaps a lawyer and has some sort of training in psychology. so, you know, in social work. i think she's certainly going to bring that real common sense. >> let's head back to south africa. stay with us, sunny. because court is resuming right now. >> -- i cannot responsibly ask the court to carry on today. >> so what do you want? >> if we may stand down until tomorrow morning. >> yes? >> we can resume tomorrow morning. >> thank you. >> we'll stand this matter down until tomorrow at 9:30 in the morning.
5:31 am
court will adjourn. another unusual move. >> 2:30 in the afternoon there. >> right. >> okay? so they have hours left of court time. defense counsel says he's too emotional. we can't go on. just as surprising to me that the judge allows it, the prosecutor says, okay. we'll go again tomorrow morning. what do you make of it, sunny? >> i've never seen anything like this, and i know there will be people that say this is the south african judicial system. listen, courts don't vary that much from place to place. these court proceedings, and i don't know what to make of it. it strikes me as really odd that he is so emotional that he cannot continue his testimony, and, again, i think it cuts both ways. i mean, are we seeing the effect on the judge that, wow. okay. you know, he's so emotional, it's because he's traumatized as well, or are we seeing, wow. you know, this is a guy so volatile, that perhaps he just loses it in is capable of
5:32 am
committing this type of murder. >> i remember learning in law school, passion fuels action and reaction, which means it could be consistent. he's really upset now because he's so hyperemotional and that's why were he got hyperemotional and was able to spark these events in the first place. >> yes. >> i learned the same thing in law school, chris. >> you learned it better. >> when i go to law school, i'll learn that as well. one thing is for sure, a very unusual morning in pretoria, in that courtroom, as they've noun adjourned for the day. back tomorrow at 9:00, obviously in south africa, because oscar pistorius taking the stand, that pivotal moment, having him recount what happened from his perspective that evening, wailing on the stand, too emotional to continue. >> it's going to be a great setup to what will matter most in the trial for this judge, watching his story get tested by the prosecution. that's picked up tomorrow morning. we'll obviously follow that, but there's a lot of other news as well. when we come back out of break we'll talk about the latest on the search for the plane as searchers work to relocate that pinger audio.
5:33 am
stay with us. (dad) well, we've been thinking about it and we're just not sure. (agent) i understand. (dad) we've never sold a house before. (agent) i'll walk you guys through every step. (dad) so if we sell, do you think we can swing it? (agent) i have the numbers right here and based on the comps that i've found, the timing is perfect. ...there's a lot of buyers for a house like yours. (dad) that's good to know. (mom) i'm so excited. how much money do you think you'll need when you retire? then we gave each person a ribbon to show how many years that amount might last. i was trying to, like, pull it a little further. [ woman ] got me to 70 years old.
5:34 am
i'm going to have to rethink this thing. it's hard to imagine how much we'll need for a retirement that could last 30 years or more. so maybe we need to approach things differently, if we want to be ready for a longer retirement. ♪ if we want to be ready for a longer retirement. (dad) just feather it out. (son) ok. feather it out. (dad) all right. that's ok. (dad) put it in second, put it in second. (dad) slow it down. put the clutch in, break it, break it. (dad) just like i showed you. dad, you didn't show me, you showed him. dad, he's gonna wreck the car! (dad) he's not gonna wreck the car. (dad) no fighting in the road, please. (dad) put your blinker on. (son) you didn't even give me a chance! (dad) ok. (mom vo) we got the new subaru because nothing could break our old one. (dad) ok. (son) what the heck? let go of my seat! (mom vo) i hope the same goes for my husband. (dad) you guys are doing a great job. seriously. (announcer) love a car that lasts. love. it's what makes a subaru, a subaru.
5:36 am
we have breaking news for you. the oscar pistorius trial, oscar pistorius broke down on the stand while describing the night he killed reeva steenkamp. it was so emotional that the judge actually allowed an adjournment for the rest of the day. it's only like 2:30 in the afternoon there. there were hours yet to go. so tomorrow morning it will resume and we will keep covering that. we've also continuing our coverage of the search for mh 370. why planes crash and our gefues with us. long certifications. i'm glad i got through them both. mr. gallo and mr. souci. mr. gallo, start with you. we are pinger obsessed. oh, if the battery is dead, oh, we'll never find it. oh, then all hope is lost.
5:37 am
that's exactly what happened in your case of air france. no pingers at all, but you still found the plane. yes, it took two years. so what is the lesson? >> well, the lesson is, i mean, if you've got the pingers, that's a fantastic way to go because it takes you right to the black boxes. that's the ultimate goal. right? the witnesses to what happened during this tragedy. but lacking that, you know, already just by getting those pings, if we can believe in those pings, we can believe that then the search area has really collapsed to something very manageable. so even lacking any more pings i think there's an area that can be mapped in a reasonable amount of time with different kinds of tools. >> now, cutting against that, david souci, is that in 447 they were dealing with a much smaller search area originally. a debris field. how it usually begins. here, no debris field, much larger search area. what does that mean for you? >> well, at first what i was thinking, because there was no debris field that perhaps the
5:38 am
aircraft went down as one piece, but after talking with the oceanographers and the weather folks about what's going on there, maybe it's not so likely that it's one piece, because number one, if it was, if there were debris on top it would have blown away by now and probably far from that area. number two is as the aircraft would sink, even if it did go down as one piece, the pressures at that level would have broken the aircraft apart to pieces and caused debris to come up to the top. the debris field in terms of the pinger not drawing correlation, but i believe this is the pinger. i don't know why we wouldn't think it wasn't the pinger. that area closed in is extremely important right now. >> all right. so let's get to a point of confusion, mr. gallo. i was under the impression that if you get the pinger, you lock on to it, let alone for two hours, that means that you're just a few miles away from this. why is the search area 30,000 square miles, if picking up the pinger means you're just a couple of miles away?
5:39 am
what's the disconnect? >> yeah. chris, i think you've got that right. i don't think they're related. if you've got the search area, i believe that big, wide search area is based on the inmarsat data mostly. the pinger is something totally different. if you've got a good couple of pings, loaning in on that, you're pretty close. so if you can believe in that site, we're within about five mimes on the outside. that's still about, oh, 75 square miles, something like that, but it's very doable. >> what were you tedealing with? how big was your area again, mr. gallo? >> 5,000 square miles. a irk issal with 80-mile diameter. a huge hay stastake to look for bits of that needle. >> different parts of the world, different ocean, different depths, different bentic problems, the bottom of the ocean, what's going on there. i had to look that up. even if they lock on to the pinger again, david souci and start looking with underwater
5:40 am
vehicles, how long can this take and what are they up against? >> it could take quite awail. david gallo might know more about this. with the bluefin 21, there's 150 meter swath that can be given, but that's as a very low resolution. the best you could hope for at that is to pick up some rocks and some other debris of large pieces of debris, but in order to actually narrow down and try to find this box, it would have to be much, much closer to the bottom of the ocean, which is only about a ten meter swath, to be able to get a higher resolution. so you know, i would think we'd be looking at weeks, weeks, at least. even if we agree that it's within that pinger area. >> patience is a function of hope, and at least we know that they've had their first good lead that they're working off of. the size is getting smaller. as we saw from will gallo's efforts with 447, you can find it even after the pinger ends. david souci, great to have you here, as always, david gallo, thank you as well. kate? when we come back we'll return to south africa to talk
5:41 am
about the unbelievable testimony in oscar pistorius' murder trial. the blade runner broke down, wailing after describing the night he killed his girlfriend. we're going to bring you that emotional account, coming up. ♪ oh-oh, oh, oh, la, la-la, la-la, la-la ♪ ♪ na-na-na, na-na-na-na-na some things just go together, like auto and home insurance. bundle them together at progressive, and you save big on both. ♪ oh, oh-oh, oh, oh
5:42 am
hey, it's me! [ whistles ] and there's my dog! [gasps] there's my steps! i should stop talking. perfectly paired savings. now, that's progressive. c'mon, you want heartburn? when your favorite food starts a fight, fight back fast, with tums. heartburn relief that neutralizes acid on contact. and goes to work in seconds. ♪ tum, tum tum tum... tums! at your ford dealer think? they think about tires.
5:43 am
and what they've been through lately. polar vortexes, road construction, and gaping potholes. so with all that behind you, you might want to make sure you're safe and in control. ford technicians are ready to find the right tires for your vehicle. get up to $120 in mail-in rebates on four select tires when you use the ford service credit card at the big tire event. see what the ford experts think about your tires. at your ford dealer.
5:44 am
welcome back to "new day." the oscar pistorius adjourned for the day after the olympian broke down, really violently sobbing on the stand why describing the night he killed his girlfriend reeva steenkamp. take a look at the emotional moment that literally shut down court for the day. >> -- [ sobbing ] she wasn't breathing.
5:45 am
>> we'll take an adjournment. the court will adjourn. [ sobbing ] >> let's bring in cnn legal analyst kelly phelps in south africa along with robyn kurnow in court monitoring. kelly, what do we know about this judge in terms of her predisposition to sympathy? she called that adjournment. later defense counsel said oscar pistorius' shirt is soaking wet. he cannot go on. prosecutors don't object and the jump said, fine, we'll adjourn court early and resume tomorrow. unusual for her? >> reporter: i don't think it's unusual, actually. it's in the court's interest that a witness can give a clear and sober account of their version of events because it is that court record that the judge has to rely on so squarely in
5:46 am
determining the outcome of the case. so if any witness were visibly in such an emotional state, that they can no longer properly engage with their testimony it is predictable and fitting that the judge would call for an adjournment. i'd certainly thing it would cause her it sympathize with him on a human level, because it's a judge-led system, it's very unlikely that that will actually sway her determination of the matter. it may sway how she dealt with this court session, but very unlikely to sway her actual decision on the outcome. >> that, of course, robyn, is what a lot of people are wondering as she called for the surprisingly early adjournment today. what impact does this have on tomorrow? >> reporter: well, i think it's just going to be business as usual in the sense that oscar pistorius is going to have to clearly and competently describe in detail what happened next. and as kelly said, that is his right. it's his legal right.
5:47 am
it's also, he has to do it. i mean that is what is expected of him in court. so he's obviously going to have to get himself together. compose himself, and he's going to have to come back here and explain what happened next in that story. so we know that we kind of stopped the narrative, essentially, when he discovered, found reevas body inside the bath roop. room. he said he sat over her. he didn't know how long he had spent, trying to figure out in his head what he had done. what happens next is going to continue on day three and, of course, all that detail, the timeline of who he called next, how he carried her down the stairs. who came in to the house. that is all very important in terms of his defense. >> kelly, what did you make of the difference from oscar pistorius when he's talking about how in the beginning he was basically just reacting. he couldn't think. he didn't think to look for reeva. he was just paralyzed with fear, but then once he starts to think
5:48 am
it could be reeva, now there's a lot of deliberate action going on with him. what did you think about the difference in mindset that he presented up on the stand? >> reporter: i didn't necessarily think there was a huge difference in mindset. it was rather what his deliberate action was targeted towards. so for example when he was speaking about his version of his fear of an intruder and why he believed the noises that he heard and why it made him think that he and reeva were in danger, you did hear deliberate action. it was very targeted action. he thought, i need to protect myself and reeva. i need to get my gun. he fetched his gun. he went cautiously down the passageway, very aware of looking at all different angles that a potential intruder could be hiding. that in itself is quite goal-directed behavior. an conversely, when he says he had the shocking realization that it may, in fact, be reeva steenkamp in the toilet that he had shot at, he then shifts that
5:49 am
goal-directive behavior towards trying to access her and get help for her. so there was certainly goal-directed target of behavior the whole way through. it's just a matter of what he believed he was directing that behavior towards. >> and his perception is key in this, as he is the only living witness to the night's events. court adjourned early today. they'll start again tomorrow morning. you have been there through it all. an amazing, unbelievable testimony we've heard from oscar pistorius today. we'll continue to cover that, of course. robyn kurnow, kelly phelps, thank you so much for that. let's take a break, though. coming up next on "new day," a dancer who survived the boston bombing but had to have her leg amp taited shares her journey. an unbelievable journey. she's vowing to dance again and do it with our own anderson cooper. you'll want to hear her story. honestly? i wanted a smartphone that shoots great video.
5:51 am
and a twenty-megapixel sensor. it's got the brightest display, so i can see what i'm shooting -- even outdoors, and 4 mics that capture incredible sound. plus, it has apps like vine -- and free cloud storage. my new lumia icon is so great, even our wipeouts look amazing. ♪ honestly, i want to see you be brave ♪ ♪
5:53 am
it feels really good just to stand up right now. i haven't stood up in a really long time. i almost forgot what it felt like's it reminds me of dancing, and i just so desperately want that again. and i'm so close. it feels really good. i feel like i could do this all day. >> that's a clip from a cnn
5:54 am
special report "the survivor diaries" following the incredible journey of adrianne haslet-davis, a professional dancer, you'll recall, she had her leg amputated amp the boston bombing. video capturing her road to recovery. it's hosted by our anderson cooper and they both join us. adrianne haslet-davis and anderson cooper join us. you'll get to see this in the cnn special we'll talk about in a moment. what a pleasure to meet you and see your beautiful smile on your face as well. >> thank you. >> how are you doing? >> today's a good day. i celebrate good days. there are good and bad days. i'm happy to say there are more good days than bad days. exactly where i'd want to be in a year. >> i would say that you're further along than anyone could ever wish you would be. >> thank you. >> through this documentary, and people must watch this, you will lafr and you will absolutely cry in watching your journey.
5:55 am
we follow your journey through very personal video diaries that you do yourself. it made me wonder, did it help, do you think, in your recovery? because at times it was very difficult for you as well? >> absolutely. it definitely helped in my recovery, and it was difficult, because i kept having both thoughts of this could be too sad. or this could be too gruesome, or just a crazy thought to be able to capture, or the opposite. you know? maybe i shouldn't capture this happy moment, because maybe other survivors aren't having those happy moments, and you have a little bit of, i'm doing so well guilt, that particular day. so, yes. difficult on both ends of the spectrum. >> we went to the hospital a couple days after, and adrianne kindly agreed to talk to us, and you know, i knew she was going to dance again. i mean, i had confidence. i mean, i was like, she's going to run again, and she's going to run the marathon -- she will do whatever she sets her mind to do because that's who she is.
5:56 am
you could tell even in the early days in the hospital just how -- i mean, she's just a remarkable person and shep is incredibly driven and had this incredible attitude that i think really touched a spark with a lot of people, and we got so much response from the interview that we did together. so many people called me up and wanted to talk to adrianne, and you know, it was -- i just found her so empowering in those really dark, difficult days. she was sort of this ray of light, and continues to be. and i think that's what's cool about the documentary, that she's not afraid to talk about the days that aren't so good and there are plenty of those days. >> important for you to remember, it wasn't a given's i remember being in boston, hearing about your story and saying, wow, i wonder which way you'll take this situation, because you were such a high level professional dancer. that could have meant, i'll never get back to that level or i'm going to be even more driven
5:57 am
than before. what helped you made that decision you would get back? >> it helps to say it on national television, right? >> sort of committed to it early. >> i'm going to do this. >> i sort of committed to dancing with you, which -- >> which we will get to that, by the way. >> why did i do that? >> i was heavily medicated. i don't know what your excuse was. >> i should have been. >> are you? >> yeah. >> i didn't realize that. >> i was. i was. the whole leg amputation thing -- >> and deal with another documentary. >> there was a promise made. there was a promise made. right? >> i just want it to be said that i do live up to my promises. >> yes. >> and more de -- now, my promise at the time was sort of like one of those, hey, when you dance again, i'll do the dance lesson with you. >> you've got it. >> thinking, like, this is not really going to happen -- >> she is never going to -- >> she's drugged up, not going to remember it. you know? she's going to have other things
5:58 am
on her mind. >> does he have two left feet? >> he does not have two left feet. >> i stepped on your prosthetic -- >> ooh. that is wrong on several levels. was it intentional? >> no. i have two left feet and i'm just terrible. >> i have no left foot. so no pay. >> i know, i know. >> there you go. good county. the dancing pair. >> adrianne was so sweet trying to teach me to dance. i've never ballroom danced or anything. >> i'm not giving anything away. your parents are involved in some of the videos as well. one of the things your mother said that moved me, was that you chose to heal with happiness. do you remember making a choice, or was it really more about just trying every day the best you could? >> i definitely made a choice, and then you try every day the best you can, but you have to make a choice. i mean, to be honest, you know, a lot of people had asked, how are you able to stay so positive, anderson as well. and really the reality is, i lived. you know? i thought that i wouldn't, and i
5:59 am
did. and i think that that's a huge reason to be happy in itself, and then after that, it's just making the choice every day, and i know every day when i have bad days that if i let myself go down that path of feeling incredibly sorry for myself and in the fetal position and crying, which i still have those days, if i stay there too long, then i know he wins. >> you are no victim, my dear. >> no. >> and i want to urge people to see this fantastic special, anderson, thank you so much for hemping bring this story to us, because you said it is important for all of us. right? a cnn special report. "the survivor diaries" premieres tonight. must-see television. 10:00 p.m. eastern right here on cnn. >> she really is a tremendous young lady. once again, cnn special report "the survivor diaries." 10:00 p.m., only on cnn. with that we wrap up "new day" and turn to carol costello. time for "newsroom." >> good morning. can't wait to see the special.
6:00 am
thanks, michaela, have a great day. "newsroom" starts now. happening now in the "newsroom" -- time -- is running out. >> another critical day. >> officials waiting for another signal from the pinger. >> there have been no further contacts with any transmission. >> plus -- the played runner and the night of the murder. >> i'd taken my firearm and i placed it under the bed next to the pedestal. >> oscar pistorius is taking the stand again this morning. >> the window open in the bathroom, the first thing that ran through my mind is that i needed to arm myself. and ukraine. becoming a tinderbox. new warnings of an all-out
185 Views
Uploaded by TV Archive on