happening now in the "newsroom." breaking this morning, two new pings. >> "ocean shield" has been able to reacquire the signals on two more occasions. >> new signals of hope. >> i'm now optimistic that we will find the aircraft. >> search efforts intensify as the world waits. and wonders as time runs out on those pingers. >> there's a strong probability that they're still active. >> have we finally found flight 370's black boxes? >> we have a positive lead. a special edition of "newsroom" starts right now. good morning. i'm carol costello. we begin with breaking news out of pennsylvania. 20 students have been injured in a high school stabbing in suburban pittsburgh.

it happened early this morning at franklin regional high school in murraysville, pennsylvania, about 15 miles east of downtown pittsburgh. here is what we know so far, 20 students have been injured, 20 students. several had to be flown to the hospital. investigators do tell us they have a suspect in custody. moments ago we spoke to a doctor who treated some of those patients. he says some students will need surgery. we're following the developments and we'll bring you more as they come in to cnn. right now the school remains on lockdown. as i said, we have a reporter dan stevens from westmoreland county on the phone with me right now. good morning, sir. >> good morning. >> bring us up to date on what you know right now. >> at 7:13 this morning the school resource officer at franklin regional high school called our 911 center by radio and asked for sis tabs.

when he got back on the radio, we had he had a stabbing, asked for additional law enforcement and multiple ambulances. the actor was taken into custody fairly quickly once it was determined who he was. we have approximately 20 students have have been injured. of those 20 students, four have been flown by medical helicopter with what appears to be non-life-threatening injuries. those students were transported to four hospitals, allegheny general hospital, forbes regional hospital, upmc east and presbyterian hospital. the suspect is in custody being questioned right now by the murraysville police department and the westmoreland county detectives. >> dan, can you tell me where inside the school this incident happened? >> it happened in classrooms and a hallway in the school. school was just actually coming into session. it was quarter after 7:00 in the

morning. we have students arriving for school, i believe their sections start at either 7:30 or 7:40. i don't have that information in front of me. >> the suspect that's in custody, is it a student and does this incident involve just one suspect, just one student perhaps? >> yes, it is a student. it involves only one individual. the school has been searched twice for any additional, and some of the students in the area were immediately questioned to see if there was more than one actor involved. currently we're recording only one actor. >> do you know the age of the suspect? >> i don't have that information available at this time. >> boy or girl? >> it's a male. >> and this male was allegedly armed with one knife? >> again, i don't have that information. this is breaking, it's about two hours old right now. we will have additional information as the day goes on. >> the 20 students that were

injured, were they all stabbed or injured in some other way? >> they were all stab wounds, whether they be lacerations or actual puncture wounds. they were all stabbing-type wounds. >> dan, i know we have sound from took tore treating those four students flown to the hospital. i want to listen to him now. >> these are significant injuries. we had two patients who went immediately to the operating room. the third patient is taken to the operating room now out of the eight patients we have. there are additional patients getting imaging, x-rays, cat scans and ultrasounds that may require interventions later on as we discover internal injuries in these patients. at the present point these patients are what we call hemodynamically stable. the two patients who went to the operating room were not stable. they had blow blood pressure and significant bleeding from their

stab wounds. >> that was dr. chris kaufmann the director of the trauma center in monroeville in pennsylvania. nearby murraysville, about 50 miles east of pittsburgh is where the high school is. to bring you up to date, one suspect now under arrest, a male student, armed with a knife of some kind. 20 students stabbed. jean casarez has been monitoring the situation from new york. she joins us with more information. hi, jean. >> what we're hearing is the stab wounds can come in various forms and fashions. there are lacerations, puncture wounds. we are yet to learn how deep these wounds are. as we know, a knife is a deadly weapon. the fact is, there are 20 students now that we are able to confirm that were injured in the stabbing this morning. they were flown by medical helicopter to facilities, no word yet on their condition. they do range in age from 14 to

17 years old. as you have just said, the alleged perpetrator of these crimes was a student at the high school. he is now being held in custody. you know, carol, a deadly weapon can come in any form or fashion and a knife is definitely that, a deadly weapon. once again, this is in pennsylvania, a state that is very, very serious when it comes to attempted murder. >> authorities just told me -- dan stevens just told me that those injuries probably are non-life-threateni non-life-threatening. do we know anything more about this student, about this high school franklin regional high school? >> this is just coming into the newsroom. we do know regional high school is outside of pittsburgh, murraysville, pennsylvania. the fact it's a student is interesting. it's someone normally on the campus, someone normally that went into the school, obviously able to get that knife on. but i think they're holding

close to the vest more information about the student. he is in custody and obviously this is the beginning of a very large legal proceeding. >> this happened, what, about an hour ago. so this occurred right as school was going into session. >> the first call of the incident was actually at 7:15 a.m., 15 minutes after the school doors opened which is interesting. so this alleged perpetrator was at school the moment it was opened. that shows a state of mind right there, that will be interesting. >> we have dan stevens on the phone, the public information officer for the westmoreland police. can you bring our viewers up to date with the latest information you have coming out of franklin regional high school? >> located in murraysville, pennsylvania, westmoreland county. we received a call from the

school resource officer at approximately 7:13 this morning that he had some type of incident going on. when he came back on the radio after requesting additional assistance, he advised we had a stabbing. when additional officers got on scene, they took the actor into custody, but before he was able to be taken into custody, approximately 20 students were injured. of those 20 students, four of which had to be flown by medical helicopter to trauma centers throughout the region. those students are at allegheny general hospital, forbes regional, upmc east and university of pittsburgh presby. >> how did the officers enter the school? >> the resource officer was in contact with arriving officers to advise them which way he wanted them to come in. he is staged at the high school,

routinely every morning. he goes to other schools throughout the district as the day goes on. but franklin regional has a school resource officer. he directs the officers in to different openings to actually corner the suspect. >> tell us how that went down. they just surrounded him? >> i wasn't on scene. i can't give you that information. i don't have the tactical measures. >> i understand, sir. i'm just asking you questions. answer as much as you know. tell us about this high school and this community. >> the school district is a very large school district. it's in the western central part of westmoreland county, a very nice community, normally quiet community. not a lot of law enforcement activity. but schools have changed and these type of things happen. we're very fortunate with the

franklin regional school district, they're very active in school safety programs, we work closely with them with the department of public safety and school district. we were up here two months ago working with them on their school blan. they were prepared for it, but you can plan for these type of things but you're never prepared for when these things actually occur. >> i was going to ask you, there have been -- sadly, there have been so many incidents in school districts across the country with violence in our schools, has your community taken any extra steps before this incident to prepare for such a thing in light of what's been happening in the country? >> absolutely. that's why i'm saying, franklin preej nall has done a lot with the department of public safety to train for these types of incidents. the principal -- superintendent at this school, we were able to work with them in the past to make sure they were ready. so, again, you can plan for these things, you're just never

prepared for them. >> thank you very much, mr. dan stevens from the westmoreland police department. he's the public information officer. i've got to take a break. before i go, i want to update our viewers once again. this incident went down just east of pittsburgh in murraysville, pennsylvania at franklin regional high school. at least 20 students were injured, we believe they were injured -- most of them stabbed or slashed by another student allegedly armed with a knife. that student, a male, is now in police custody. we don't know his age or his name as of yet. but most of the injured were between 14 and 17 years old. four of the students injured needed surgery. they appear to be doing okay. those are the initial reports. the others suffered non-life-threatening injuries. we'll be back with much more from murraysville, pennsylvania, after this.

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we want to continue following our breaking news this hour. 20 students have been injured at a high school stabbing in suburban pittsburgh this morning at franklin regional high school in pureriesville, pennsylvania. 20 students have been hurt, four flown to various hospitals. investigators tell us a suspect is in custody. that suspect is a student. that suspect is male. jean casarez is following the story for us. tell us more, jean. >> reporter: the students are being released to their parents right now. if their parents are not

available, they're being held in a separate location. the school is in lockdown. the victims range from 14 to 17 years old. we are confirming 20 or at least 20 victims have been flown and taken to hospitals. four we understand needed surgery. they're doing all right at this point. i think it's too early in the game saying they are doing all right. surgery is surgery, right? the one question is who is the student being held, what is his age and why? what would be the motive to take a knife into school, 7:13 this morning. the student was there right when the doors were opened of his high school in pennsylvania. >> students were gathering to go to class, so they were all in a big bunch in the hallway, right? i'm trying to figure out, one suspect with one knife, 20 students injured although it's not clear that all those injuries came with stab wounds, how he was able to injury so many? >> that's right. when you look at a knife, you

can have lacerations where you're just slashing someone or you can penetrate someone with a knife. it appears as though it was an extremely violent attack because 20 victims, that is quite a number of students. and for everybody, just to remind them, this is franklin regional high school in murraysville, pennsylvania, near pittsburgh. you can see students there waiting to pick up their children and school buses in a row, in the a line, bringing students to school. >> i was talking to the public information officer from westmoreland county. he said there was a school resource officer on the scene. he is the one that alerted authorities and then police came. he was in the school at the t e time. >> reporter: maybe that is luck, but obviously that helped the situation to have an official there that could take action quickly. i think that there are so many questions now, and we are --

they're saying at least 20 victims. so we are saying 20, but do we really know at this point? obviously the alleged perpetrator is apprehended. but i think we're early in the game. this is a case just unfolding, just developing. >> the school has been cleared of students, obviously. it's on lockdown. now police are beginning their investigation inside, right? >> reporter: yes, this is a crime scene where they will have to investigate every single aspect. they will have to look at the forensic evidence. they will have to pinpoint the evidence. this perpetrator will be charged, no question about it, probably with numerous crimes. but they will have to link him in forensic ways to the crime scene along with identification from his fellow students. >> we don't know the exact response time of police. according to the public information officer everything went according to plan because sadly so many incidents of violence have happened in schools across the country, that

they were prepared for such a thing. >> reporter: prepared for such a thing possibly with a gun. but what about a knife? you know, there are different types of deadly weapons, i think people always focus on the gun. but the knife is a deadly weapon, too. maybe there is nothing life-threatening here. we can't truly confirm that if four students have just gotten out of surgery. but the fact is attempted murder is a very serious charge and a very serious traumatic situation for all these kids to be involved in. >> ages 14 through 17, the ages of those injured in this attack. jean casarez, stay there. i've got to take a break. we'll be back with much more out of murraysville, pennsylvania. [ male announcer ] this is the cat that drank the milk... [ meows ]

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just to bringing up to date on breaking news out of pennsylvania, 20 students in a high school stabbing incident in pennsylvania. it happened in murraysville pennsylvania, 50 miles east of downtown pittsburgh. police have arrested a suspect. they tell us that suspect is a student. he was armed with a knife and he injured at least 20 students. most of them have, of course, been taken to hospitals, some of their injuries are minor, some quite serious. i want to bring in dr. chris

kaufmann, the director of the trauma center at the forbes regional hospital in nearby monroeville. welcome, sir. >> thank you. >> just bring us up to date about how many of the injured that your hospital received. >> certainly. we have seventeen agers and one adult brought here to forbes trauma center. >> seventeen agers one adult. do you know if that adult is a teacher? >> i do not know. >> the seventeen agers, do you know their ages? >> excuse me. >> their ages, the seventeen agers. >> the youngest was 15. >> 15? >> yes. >> what are their conditions now? >> two are in the operating room right now and another one is being taken to the operating room right now, and we have additional -- four students undergoing cat scans and imaging to determine whether they may also have injuries that would

require interventions in the operating room. >> can you tell me the nature of their injuries. >> yes, the seventeen agers who are injured all have stab wounds to their torsos. they have stab wounds to their abdomen, chest and back areas. >> how serious are these injuries? >> these are quite serious injuries. these are not superficial in nature. >> not superficial. are they life-threatening then? >> yes, cle stab wounds are cle life-threatening. >> those with life-threatening injuries are in surgery right now? >> that's correct. >> are you expecting other victims sgle were ooh told we're not expecting additional victims. >> we always admire greatly doctors who handle these situations. how are the people at the

hospital taking this? >> we're prepared for this. we're the newest trauma center in pa. we only got accredited on october 1st. we had the presence of three trauma surgeons. we had doctors from about ten different specialties, 40 nurses, we had a real outpouring from the entire hospital at the level of support we needed to manage all these patients at the same time. >> thank you so much for filling us in, dr. chris kaufmann the director of the trauma center in monroeville, pennsylvania. >> thank you. we are expecting some sort of news conference to happen at 9:30 eastern. we're not sure if it will go down exactly at that time. i'll take a break and be back with much more. four-wheel steering is why i get up in the morning.

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good morning. i'm carol costello. let me bring you up to date on our breaking news out of pennsylvania. 20 students have been injured in a high school stabbing in suburban pittsburgh. it happened at franklin regional high school in murraysville, pennsylvania, about 15 miles east of downtown pittsburgh. here is what we know. those 20 students are hurt, some of them quite seriously. i just interviewed a doctor from one of the hospitals who said some of these students have deep stab wounds to their torsos, stomachs an backs. many of them are in surgery at this time. investigators also tell us the

suspect is in custody. that suspect is male and a student at that high school. jean casarez is following the story from us. she's been talking to her sources. what have you found out, jean? >> there are four different hospitals victims have been taken to. the one thing we're learning, dr. chris kaufman said it to you, there are life-threatening wounds at this point. currently there are two victims that are operated on right now. one is being taken to surgery, the others are having x-rays, cat skats, ultrasound tests to see if there are deep internal injuries. there is so much unknown. but here is what we do know at this point, it was about 7:15, 7:15 this morning hen the doors had just opened to the high school. classes start around 7:30, 7:40. that is when all this began, 7:15, before the first class of the morning. students just arriving, parents dropping off their kids. we're understanding it began in the classroom or the hallway,

but it definitely, carol, went some distance. the hallway into the classroom, the classroom into the hallway, the stabbing continued with lacerations and puncture wounds. at this point we are hearing 20 victims. >> it makes you wonder how long this attack went on because some of these stab wounds that some of these students suffered were deep stab wounds. >> that's right, that's right. deep stab wounds versus a laceration where you just slash someone and keep going. but as we just heard from dr. chris kauffman, the trauma surgeon, there is at least one adult who was a victim because of the people he is treating right now, one is the adult. we don't know at this point if it is a teacher or a parent that could have been in the school. parents do go into the schools of their children. >> i'm just thinking about what dr. kauffman told me, some of the injuries these students

suffered are life-threatening. they're in surgery right now. i'm sure a lot of prayers are going out for them at this moment. there was a school resource officer in the school at the time who called police. i don't know if that school resource officer was armed. do you? >> no, we are not hearing why he was there, what he was doing. obviously it appears as though he witnessed it, heard of it. was the one that made the call. the victims we are hearing, 14 to 17 years old. that is right, every age level at that high school in pennsylvania. but also with at least the one adult victim that we know, it involved others, also. >> jean, stand by. i interviewed dan stevens, the public information officer from the westmoreland county police department. that's the police department who responded to this incident. i want to replay that tape for our viewers. let's listen. >> at 7:13 this morning, the school resource officer at murraysville -- at franklin

regional high school called our 911 center by radio and asked for assistance. he had an incident going on. when he got back on the radio he said he had a stabbing, asked for additional law enforcement and multiple ambulances. the actor was taken into custody fairly quickly once it was determined who he was. we have approximately 20 students that have been injured, of those 20 students, four of which flown by medical hospital with what appear to be non-life-threatening injuries. those students were transported to four hospitals, allegheny general hospital, forbes regional hospital, upmc east and presbyterian hospital. the suspect is in custody being questioned right now by the murraysville police department and westmoreland county detectives. >> dan, can you tell me where inside the school this incident happened? >> it happened in the classrooms and a hallway in the school.

school was just actually coming into session. it was, again, quarter after 7:00 in the morning. we have students arriving for school. i believe their sessions start at either 7:30 or 7:40. i don't have that information in front of me. >> does it involve -- the suspect that's in custody, is it a student and does this incident involve just one suspect, just one student perhaps? >> yes, it is a student, and it involves only one individual. the school has been searched twice for any additional, and some of the students in the area were immediately questioned to see if there was more than one actor involved. currently we're reporting only one actor. >> do you know the age of the suspect? >> i do not have that information available at this time. >> boy or girl? >> it's a male. >> and this male was allegedly armed with one knife? >> again, i don't have that information. this is breaking, it's about two hours old right now.

we will have additional information as the day goes on. >> these 20 students who were injured, were all of them stabbed or were they injured in some other way? >> no, they were all stab wounds, whether they be lacerations or actual puncture wounds. they were all stabbing type wounds. >> back to jean casarez right now. obviously the school remains on lockdown as police go through the scene to try to figure out what exactly happened. right now it's hard to get your mind around it. one student perhaps armed with one knife managed to injure so many other students. >> with life-threatening injuries at this point. the one thing we don't know much about is who allegedly perpetrated this crime. he was a student at the school as you just told everyone, but motive, why would he do this? what was his state of mind to come into the school, first thing when the doors opened, armed with this knife and obviously, carol, this had to be an extremely violent attack,

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. good morning. i'm carol costello. i'd like to welcome our international viewers as well as bring you up to date on the breaking news from pennsylvania. franklin regional high school in murrysville, pennsylvania, about 15 miles east of downtown

pittsburgh, at least 20 students have been injured. we also know police have arrested a suspect. he is a student and is male. no known motive as of yet. these injuries inflicted are quite serious. i just talked with dr. chris kauffman chief of the trauma center at forbes regional hospital in nearby monroeville. he says seventeen agers and one adult have been admitted to that hospital. teenagers around the age of 15. he didn't have any information of the adult. two of the teenagers are in surgery with life-threatening injuries, they suffered stab wounds to the torso, abdomen and back. they were quite deep stab wounds. other injuries we know of involve lacerations and more shallow wounds. we're getting word from our affiliate kdka in pittsburgh, allegheny general has also admitted patients. the ages range between 15 and

16. i want to bring in ken trump, the president of the national school safety and security service. welcome, sir. >> good morning, carol. once again we have this conversation. it's sad. >> it's more than sad. it's just hard to wrap your mind around why this keeps happening in our schools. >> i'm a father as well as 30 years in the school safety business. i think this illustrates what we've talked about as we work with schools across the country. it may be that gun. it may be a stabbing. in the ub coming days bs one of the questions, was there any warning signs? did somebody know? were there any clues? >> was there something on social media, facebook, twitter? but it raises an issue we've been talking with schools when we're doing that security assessment is the early morning

arrival. about 7:13 was the the initial call. the good news was they had a school resource officer there. while it didn't completely eliminate this from happening, it's possible the scenario could have been worse if there wasn't an officer on scene to call for help to get ambulances. the other part is we've been looking at schools across the country. many high schools are opening their doors at 6:00 in the morning. staff is often not in until 7:00, 7:30 depending on the starts time. kids often arrive with minimal adult supervision, not just police, but staff. they're in school, there for early morning activities. some are dropped off for parents. we need to focus on this time of the morning in our security planning. >> i was talking to the public information officer from the westmoreland county sheriff's office. he talked about the school resource officer. he said they had a plan in place in case something like this

happened. he said the school resource officer did the right thing. can you tell me in general what that might have been? >> well, having school resource officer, how many incidents like this are actually prevent friday having them there? there are incidents that aren't able to be prevented. obviously you want to stop the person who is doing the attack. you want to lock down the school, get students out of harm's way, immediately call for the ambulances, the additional police support. one of the other dynamics that goes on, carol, at this point in time is the social media, the texting to parents, the phone calls on the cell phones, what's out on twitter, facebook and other things. it's going to cause parents to expedite their return to the school. the parent-student reunification, how do you get

parents back in the arms of their children. that's another dynamic. you have the incident unfolding, you have the threat, you have the attack. you have to get the emergency medical services responding. you have to secure the perpetrator. at the same time parents are coming, traffic flow. parents want their kids immediately. you have to safely reunite parents and kids. you have to communicate effectively. press conferences, social media. carol, all this stuff is unfolding simultaneously. if you put yourself in the position of the school official, it's absolutely overwhelming. planning cannot be done as the incident unfolds. you have to know how you're going to hit the ground, what type of drills you have in place that you practice, how your communications mechanisms are ready to roll, how to get the first responders. who is going to deal with staging areas. as i'm rattling this off, you're probably overwhelmed. the parents listening are overwhelmed. that's the importance of

planning. parents want to know two things. school officials have to prepare for two things. number one, what can we prevent? how can we do our best to prevent it? number two, how well prepared are we to hit the ground rolling if something happens that we can't prevent? >> ken trump, thank you for your insight. we appreciate it. i want to go back live to the scene at franklin regional high school. a reporter from our local affiliate kdka is reporting from the scene. let's listen. >> i always go back and think about my high school days here at franklin and think about the people i went to school with. i can remember one time there was a play being put on where we had firearms involved, and it was a faculty play. i actually held the principal and vice principal at gunpoint. can you imagine trying to do that in this day and age?

>> no. >> i'm tempted to be like my friend herb and say it doesn't happen here. it can happen here. it just shows where the world is going. where it's been over the last few years. i'm not going to make any speculation about where we're going in the future. it's a pretty stark reminder of where we are right now. >> let's just pray for a u turn, turn things around. >> before we let you go, just set the scene for us right now, what are you seeing from your vantage point? >> i am seeing parents show up. i'm seeing an increasing media presence here which sometimes isn't always the most nice thing the parents want to see. they are remaining calm. the ones walking up are asking simple questions, what school do i go to to pick up my child. the area around franklin locked down by police. no one is getting close as they continue the investigation. the good news, rick and jen, i haven't seen an ambulance come out of here in quite some time. >> we are seeing some of those

parents moving around the campus as you're telling us that information. thank you so much for checking back in with us and keeping us posted. >> bill ray kof from kdk radio, an alum, parent in that district. he lives in that district. it's way too close to home. >> we are seeing movement now as you're watching live. this is heritage elementary school. this is where we are told that the high school students were moved. early on some of the parents tried to go directly to the high school and some got pretty close before things were blocked off. those parents were later told, we've moved all the kids to this building, this heritage elementary building that you're looking at and this is where the students have been. we're seeing more movement from parents being able to go and hopefully be reunited with their children very shortly. it's been a long wait i'm very sure for poth barents and students to be able to see each

other and give each other big hugs after all of this this morning that they've had to deal with that. >> we do have some more information coming into is. we're told there will be another press briefing coming up at 10:30 at forbes hospital where we've heard all sorts of different things. for example, a doctor saying that perhaps one student saved another student's life by applying pressure to wounds that were there. some of the training kids pick up, whether in health class or something they saw on tv or whatever, again, people starting to hear some tales of some heroic things. what we do not know is a whole lot of information about who the suspect is other than we were told by dave stevens with emergency management of westmoreland county, that it is indeed a student at franklin regional high school. as to why it happened, that we don't know. but that person is in police custody, being held by murrysville police. they weren't sure exactly what the particulars were as to how

this person was taken into custody other than simply saying the person was in custody and it was that person who was responsible for the 20 people who were injured this morning. ages of the victims range between 14 and 60, 6-0. we know at least a couple of adults, one of them we're told, was taken to forbes. another taken to allegheny general hospital. four of the 20 patients had . . . four hospitals received patients. again, think about it. it is a wednesday morning. your not expecting a whole lot going on at 7:15 in the morning. we are going to break away from this local coverage. we will be back with much more out of pennsylvania. ♪ thoughtful combinations, artfully prepared. fancy feast elegant medleys. inspired dishes like primavera, florentine and tuscany. fancy feast. a medley of love,

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we're getting another update from the forbes regional hospital, the trauma center there. as i've been telling you, a terrible stabbing accident at franklin regional high school in murrysville, pennsylvania. at the forbes regional hospital, seven teenagers and one adult have been admitted. two are in surgery right now suffering from stab wounds to the torso, abdomen and back. let's listen to dr. chris

kaufman, the director there. >> there was multiple stab wounds at franklin regional hospital. we activated our trauma team within forbes hospital. we told them we could easily handle three or four critically injured patients at once. if there were more, they would have to be transported to trauma centers not as close by as we are. we did receive seven patients from the scene who were teenagers, and an admirals dugs person additionally. two of the patients are in the operating room. the third is being transported to the operating room at this point. these are all patients who had stab wounds of the chest and abdomen. so these were significant injuries and the patients are being appropriately managed. there are additional patients right now who are having ct scans and x-rays performed. it may be that additional

patients will require operative care throughout the day. >> in total, eight patients here. >> yes, from that scene. >> we understand that seven of them are students and one of them possibly an adult. >> yes. there are patients of teenage years, seven of those and then an adult who is older than 21 as a patient. >> in terms of severity, three that need surgery and two in the o.r. >> yes, correct. >> so the others do not need surgery. >> these were patients who are stable and we have to stage the patients, the patients that are unstable with the most severe injuries, go to the operating room first. some of those patients don't need any type of imaging. you can tell on their stab wound and their blood pressure, they just need to go to the operating room. others that are stable with normal blood pressure, heart rate, we have time to do a more

typical approach to do a cat scan and see what's injured inside and make a plan according to what we see. so there are patients who just now have completed their cat scans. the raid olgists are looking at those and will help us with the interpretations. some of those patients may also require an operation. it is less likely. >> dr. chris kaufman in the regional hospital. the trauma center there, seventeen age jirs and one adult. we will be back with much more on this terrible breaking news at the top of the hour.

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four of the students out of the 20 who were injured were flown to hospitals. at least two of them were sent straight to surgery. that's how severe their injuries were. the high school went into lockdown mode during the attack. >> the school has been searched twice for any additional and some of these students were immediately questioned to see if there was more than one actor involved. apparently, we are reporting only one actor. >> only one suspect to blame for 20 people injured. jean casarez is following the story. what have you found out? >> that one suspect is in custody and is being questioned by officials right now. this all happened when the doors opened to the school 7:13, 7:15 is when the first call came in. students arriving for the day. driving, being dropped off by their parents. the school bus bringing them. it happened right at that time in a classroom or classrooms and a hallway. the deadly weapon was a knife. the knife perpetrated stab

wounds and slashes wounds were culminated as you are saying in the surgeries that are taking place right now as we speak. while victims are being treated at four hospitals in the area. other students are being reunited with their parents. they were held at another school until their parents could pick them up. they are not allowed to leave on their own. the high school itself is now an official crime scene. >> it is mind-boggling that one suspect armed with one knife could create such chaos. >> it is amazing. that is the reality. so often we just think about guns as being deadly weapons. a knife can be a deadly weapon. as the trauma doctor told you, these are life threatening injuries in some of these victims that range in age from 14 to adulthood. those in surgery, their blood pressure was so low they had to

be in surgery. the cat scans done to determine if there were internal injuries, could result in more surgeries. >> he was describing some of the injuries to these students that were around 15 years old. they also have one adult at forbes right now. i don't know the aenge of the adult. the students were 15 years old. some suffered stab wounds to the torso, back, stomach. two of them are in surgery. three others are waiting to go in. jean, stick around. i want to bring in ken trump, the president of the national school safety and security services and also jeff gardere. he is a psychologist. ken, i know you are on the phone. can you hear me? i can hear you fine. >> this particular high school had a school resource officer on duty. authorities tell me he did all the right things. in general, describe how that

went down. >> the officer first and foremost focuses on neutralizing the attacker, taking that person in custody in whatever technique has to be used. after that, they are taking care of the injured, making sure that you have emergency medical services rolling, securing the building, getting students locked down, into the areas, out of the hallways, into a place where they are safe and not visible for attack. they are going to be wondering about whether or not there are multiple attackers. you have one person in custody. are there other people involved? that's in the back of the mind and then the actions they are taking while securing the building. at the same time, they have to have something in place to hit the ground rolling with parents who are going to be showing up on scene due to students texting, facebook posts, twitter and other social media. so there are so many things going on that you have to have these things planned in place. you have to go ahead of time.

you have to drill for these things and meet some of the basic fundamental drills and you have to know the mechanisms in place to deal with these different simultaneously. the parents are going to keep rolling to the schools. texting and social media is going on. they want their children. the ambulances need to get in. we are looking at video now that is rolling with buses lined up. as you you saw ambulances lined up. you are going to see parents lined up. you see parents wanting their children. carol, it is just overwhelming. the reality is, if you sdroendo have a school resource officer there to be the first responder and ready to roll, if your staff is not ready to roll, people don't know what their duties are as crisis team members of what to expect. the situation could be even worse in terms of injuries as well as in managing parent concerns. getting information and getting the kids back in the arms of the parents. >> so parents, probably most of

them, found out from the news that there was an accident at this high school. they probably rushed to the scene looking for their children. we understand that authorities transferred those kids to another school. it took parents a find where their kids were. i can't imagine the pain everyone is feeling there. >> reporter: they are learning about it from the media. as ken trump said, and he is absolutely correct, probably even quicker, from social media. you better believe kids were texting and taking pictures and video and so on. this is coming as quite a shock to parents. quite frankly, despite all of the other massacres in all of the other schools, we see them more and more. these parents are still going to be in shock. this is really, truly a culture shock. because they see the schools as still being a safe haven. that thought is certainly dissipating in their minds. in the minds of all parents across the united states at this

particular time. >> these kids are at such a tender age, 14, 15 years old, 16 years old. a tough time in your life. it is also interesting that this suspect, who was also a student at the school, i would assume he is between 14 and 17, right? he chose to use a knife. it is too early to talk about it. i hope the gun lobby doesn't get into this idea guns don't kill people. people kill people. yes, it was a knife. there are probably mental health issues going on. they need to determine whether the suspect was on legal or illegal drugs, whether he had mental health issues. you asked how can someone wreak such havoc? probably, this person, if he is not medicated or self-medicated was in a frenzy, may have been having some sort of emotional issues along with some rage. he has this adrenaline. he is pumped up. that's how you are able to do

something that is so monstrous. >> let's go to pittsburgh. dave bond is a reporter from wexi. he is at the university of pittsburgh center. do we have mr. bondy. ? >> reporter: five people were taken here to upnc east. we were over there on the proper. we were told to leave. we are here right now. we have not been able to talk to any parents or students. a spokesperson did meet me when he came out of the building and had no comment. our sources have confirmed. five people were taken here. we don't have a breakdown to how many students and how many adults. this is something that hospitals have a plan in place. it is called a mass casualty incident. as soon as the call goes in, people in the emergency room know what to do, what their roles are. that went into place today at

several hospitals as we know throughout our area. we have five people at upnc east. we are not sure on their exact conditions. we are going to be out here throughout the morning trying to learn more. i want to show you. we have an ambulance coming in. i'm not sure if that may be related to what has been going on. we're trying to talk to anybody who has been out here. we have been kept off the property. right now, five people here at unpc. reporting live, dave bondy, channel 1 news. some of the other victims have been admitted to other area hospitals. i want to bring back in jean casarez and talk about how this attack went down. we both listened to dan stevens earlier from westmoreland county. he said the stabbing happened early in the morning around 7:13 this morning. it happened in restrooms and the hallways of the school. do we know anymore? >> i think at this point, we are hearing classroom and hallway. i want to tell everybody, we are

just learning that the fbi is now assisting local police in this investigation. they are playing a supporting role. the investigating agency is the local police but the fbi is involved. it did happen just about 7:13 this morning when the doors were just opened. students beginning to come in. classes start at 7:30, 7:40 at that high school. this attack happened before the first class began. in multiple locations, it sounds like, involving many people. we know 20 victims. we know some are in surgery now, life threatening. obviously, when you think about the slashing and the stabbing to backs and torsos in the front and also the stomping. can you imagine the melee of trying to get out when someone has a vicious knife attack? >> ken, you were telling me earlier, this happened at the

start of school. that concerns you. why? >> it's a really vulnerable time, particularly at the high school levels. we are doing security assessments. we are finding many schools, the custodians are unlocking the doors at 6:00 in the morning due to staff coming in and some student activity. oftentimes, opening too many doors in our opinion. the point is that students are arriving oftentimes before all the teachers and support staff are in place. there is a skeletal staff for supervision. we have a scenario that occurred at 7:13, if not a little bit before. the classes start just about a half hour later. the question we have is where are the adults? we are not saying they are at fault. we want to make sure the schools are best prepared. oftentimes, the schools are just

arriving or perhaps just getting into the office, heading to the classrooms, not in the halls, proactive, supervised, where you can quickly intervene or prevent an incident from occurring. we are looking closely at what time do you open the doors, what time are staff in place and ready to go. you have to have adequate policing. as we've seen in school shootings and in today's incident, a lot of these incidents happen as the schools open and the school is with a skeletal staff and not ready for something like this to occur. >> we will learn much more about how this incident went down a little later on today. ken trump, thank you so much for your incident. jeff gardere, thank you for your insight as well. we'll be back with more.

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will find the plane's wreckage. fresh signals detected by the pinger locator aboard the "ocean shield" brings that to four signals, all located within 17 miles of one another. the man in charge of the search detailing the discovery and where things go from here now. >> the analysis determined that a very distinct and clear signal was detected at 33.331 kill aowe hertz and it consistently pulsed at a 1.106 second interval. i therefore assess that the transmission was not of natural origin and was likely sourced from specific electronic equipment. what we are picking up is a great lead. we've got to visually acquire before we can say this is the

final resting place. there is still a way to go. >> in a moment, i'll talk to someone who has heard those kinds of signals. he tells me why he thinks this is the real thing. first, let's hear from will ripley, cnn's will ripley. he is in perth, australia. tell us more, will. >> reporter: hey, carol, this is the strongest language we have heard yet from the search chief. cautious optimism. he feels that within a matter of days, perhaps or at least within the near future, he believes they will find this plane. you need to remember. this is why they are still tempering this optimism with the fact that 33 days into this search, we still do not have one single piece of evidence, not one physical, tangible sign of flight 370. we have four pings, two heard on tuesday, two others heard on saturday. all of the pings seem to be coming from an inflight data recorder. when i asked angus houston, when

he got on board, i asked him, did he think when he started the search he would be announcing the news that he announced here in perth today. listen to his response. >> when i arrived last sunday night, i would have been probably more pessimistic than i am now. i'm now optimistic that we will find the aircraft or what is left of the aircraft in the not too distant future. >> reporter: there are still search planes taking off. they flew over the area. they didn't see any debris. that has been the story time and time again. there is a confidence, a new confidence among searchers, carol, including angus houston, one of the most telling things that i noticed is that he talked about the families, many from china, now, preparations are being made here in perth to

accommodate the families if they decide to fly here. he used the words, when they come, not if they come. he said when they come. more optimism than we have ever seen so far in this search on day 33. >> they have detected the four sounds. the two they detected on saturday they determined they weren't naturally occurring sounds. this he did come from a black box. many are wondering, why not just send the submarine down right now to look? why don't they? >> reporter: there are a lot of people who are anxious to get this submersible down to take a look and start taking pictures but they are waiting to do that. there is a good reason why. they can cover a lot more ground with the tpl, that pinger locator, than they do with the submersible. if there is any chance these data recorders are still emitting signals, they want to get that listening device under water to hear those signals as many times as possible. with each new detection, they can narrow and narrow and narrow the area down so when you do get the submersible down there, it can operate much more

efficiently and safe time in the future. one day's work for the tpl takes about a week for the submersible. that's why we haven't seen it deployed just yet. it will be coming specially if they continue to detect more pings. >> i hope so. will ripley reporting live. thanks so much. for more on the pings, i want to bring in chris. he is the director of duquesne, a hyco company, which makes underwater locator pingers. welcome, chris. >> thank you. you got a chance to hear the first set of pings. what did they sound like? exactly like our product is designed to sound like. can you say with 100% certainty

that those pings you heard were coming from black boxes under water? >> i wouldn't say 100% certainty but extremely confident that they were man-made and they are consistent with what our product does. i think they want to wait for visual confirmation but we believe these are the boxes. >> so one set of sounds are in one area of the search area. the other set of sounds are like 16 miles away. why would that be? >> well, i'm at aircraft, the 777. you actually have two black boxes. you have the cockpit voice recorder and the flight data recorder. each carry a pinger. they could be hearing both or one in one area or the other. the other item is the ocean currents and the depths can play some friction on the acoustics and cause sounds to travel in different areas. it is not uncommon. they could have actually found both pingers. >> interesting. so the batteries are dying,

right? it has been 32, 33 days. how much longer can they go? >> well, the batteries and the requirement are 30 days. our product has exceeded that. we're extremely proud by that. our testing has indicated that we should be able to get about 35 days. so we're hopeful it will continue to ping. it is pretty overwhelming that you have an international search coalition and they are looking for our product. they have outperformed the expectations. another thing i don't quite understand. they heard something and another set of pings on tuesday. why would that be. they are towing an extremely

long cable trying to hear these sounds. as the batteries get weaker and weaker, the sound travels less and it won't radiate as much. it is not uncommon for them to pick it up in different areas. >> just, you know, in observing this month-long agonizing process, are you amazed they were able to detect any pinging sound at all? >> yes. without any surface wreckage, the math and science and hard work by everybody to try to pinpoint an area to drag an underwater hydrophone and to actually be in the correct area. our pingers have a range of two nautical miles. in the depth of the ocean they are at, they are up over two nautical miles deep. in looking at the precision they had to have and the accuracy of the prediction where the plane went down is simply amazing. >> it really is.

>> the other curious thing is they are looking for debris. they want to find some debris so they can further pinpoint where exactly the plane went down. why do you think they are not finding in debris? >> probably, most of it has sank or the ocean currents have moved it out of that area. again, the black boxes aren't going to locate the debris. they are going to locate the boxes and hopefully from there, they will be able to see the debris. >> once they send the submersibles down, once they pinpoint a smaller area, how long will it take to bring up those black boxes, you think? >> it will be several days, it could be weeks. you are dealing in a depth of an ocean that is significant. to try to get the resources out there to get it. that's why they are using the pingers as long as they can hear them to narrow it down.

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33 days after the disappearance of flight 370, officials are expressing optimism that the plane could be found in, quote, not the too distant future. their belief based on the discovery of two signals consistent with those emitted from a black box. if confirmed to be from flight 370, it could help explain the mystery that began on march 8th when that plane took off from kuala lumpur en route to beijing. along the way, the aircraft made that mysterious left turn for a reason that's unknown. government sources telling cnn the plane later skirted indonesian air space possibly to avoid radar detection, flying for several hours along a suspected path that has led authorities to the southern indian ocean. while we are getting possible clues with signals, there is still no sign of debris.

what could that mean? could that mean the plane landed intact and broke apart as it sunk beneath the water. here to help us sort through that, martin savidge and pilot, mitchell casado. good morning, gentlemen. >> reporter: good morning, carol. it is a pretty interesting theory that you bring out as far as the possibility of a landing on water. every time we have done this scenario previously for you, we have always done it from the consideration that the aircraft ran out of fuel and then simply fell into the ocean. as mitchell brought up the other day to me, what about the possibility that as this aircraft ran low and whoever may have been in control of it actually decided to land on the water intentionally with the engines running. why would you do that? >> well, i mean, it's just you are scanning the instruments. the pilots, if they were doing their job would notice it is

dropping. the reason you would want that power is because you are going in for a landing. >> reporter: you want the engines running because it gives you second chances. >> you can make minor adjustments as you stick closer to the water. the more power you have, the more control you have. >> we are going to set this up for you, carol. we are going to come down as close to the water as we can. we are not going to land it in the water. we would never want in any way if something went wrong for families to see that. we are going to show you the lineup. mitchell would tell you about what's necessary for the aircraft performance when you are coming in like this. the wheels don't go down. >> the wheels stay up. the flaps, i put it into an op tim um lift, 15 degrees, not too much drag. we bring the speedway back, approaching 140 knots. i got the nose high, the tail is low. i'm 340 feet over the water. >> take us down as low as you think we can go. is it just like you were landing on land with the exception of

the wheels. >> not really. you are going to have trouble judging your height here. you are not going to have the a all tim teres. they are not going to be accurate. a stable dissent. >> that's critical here, carol. you want stability. you are coming up to an ocean. you can't control the waves but at least you can control the aircraft. you must keep the wing tips and the engines from catching on a wave, because that will force the plane to twist like that, tumble and break apart. you want to do just like they did on the miracle of the hudson, tail first. can you give us the outside view? i know you are struggling to keep us just above the water. let's take a look at what the plane would look like. you have that tail down posture. you want to set it tail first on the water. the rest of the plane, gently, albeit at a very high speed,

touches down. that's one way. i don't think we should go too much lower. one way you could set this down and possibly keep the aircraft intact. we do not have any way to tell you that's really what happened. >> the reason we are telling people about this is it is strange that no debris has been detected. smaller amounts of debris. so if a plane landed on the water like this, it would break apart in bigger pieces, right? >> as the miracle on the hudson showed, it is possible to land the plane intact, open ocean versus a waterway is a different matter here. mitchell, what do you you think? it would be possible to set it down intact? >> it would be possible. you are going to hit tail first, you are going to bounce and then you are going to get back in the air and settle down. it is possible with a little bit of luck and skill, you could do it, yeah. >> so that would mean little or no debris.

the plane would sink on its own, relatively intact. >> thanks, gentlemen. i have to go back to pittsburgh for breaking news. there has been a terrible stabbing at franklin regional high school in murrysville hospital. this is the doctor filling us in. >> two patients are in the operating room and a third is being transported to the operating room at this point. these are all patients who had stab wounds of the chest and abdomen. these were significant injuries. the patients are being appropriately managed. there are additional patients right now who are having c.t. scans and x-rays performed. it may be additional patients will require operative care throughout the day. >> reporter: in total, eight patients here?

>> yes, from that school. >> reporter: we understand that seven of them are students. one of them possibly an adult. >> there are patients of teenage years, seven of those, and an adult, who is older than 21 as the eighth patient. >> reporter: in terms of severity of the injuries, that's three that are going to need surgery, two in the o.r. and one going to the o.r.? >> correct. >> reporter: the others don't need surgery. superficial wounds? >> no, they are not superficial wounds. we have to stage the patients. the patients that are unstable with the most severe injuries go to the operating room. some patients don't need any type of imaging. you can tell based on their stab wound and their blood pressure they just need to go to the operating room. other patients that are stable, normal blood pressure, normal heart rate, we have time to do a more typical approach to do a cat scan and see what's injured inside and make a plan according

to what we see. there are patients who just now have completed their cat scans. the raid olgists are looking at those and will help us with the interpretation of what we see on those images. some of those patients may also require an operation. it is less likely. >> any of the injuries you have seen so far life threatening? >> reporter: how many? >> patients that are stabbed in the abdomen or chest have by definition life threatening injuries. >> reporter: would you say all of them are life threatening? >> i would say that half of them are life threatening. >> reporter: so the remaining five patients that were brought in, they are not supervision wounds we are looking at? >> none of these are superficial wounds. these are all significant stab wounds, every one. >> reporter: you were able to say specifically chest and abdomen for those three. can you tell us any more for the other five so we have a better idea of this not being

superficial? >> sure. all of the patients have torso stab wounds, chest, abdomen, back, flank. all of their stab wounds are in the area of the torso. i haven't seen the adult. all of the seven teenagers. >> reporter: all of the seven teenagers. can you tell us who are about what you guys have been doing in the trauma -- >> we are going to break away from this. that was dr. chris coughman, the director of the trauma center at the forbes regional hospital. most of the stab wounds were to the torso area. some suffered stab wounds to the abdomen. i want to bring in fbi analyst, tom fuentes and psychologist, jeff gardere. welcome to both of you. tom, i want to start with you and take you back to 7:13 a.m. eastern. that's when this incident

initially went down inside the franklin regional high school. apparently, according to police that we have talked to, this took place just as school started, just as it went into session. kids were in the hallway and that's where the initial stabbings took place, in the hallway and then it moved on to hallways and into some classrooms. we also understand and we just got this information confirmed by cnn, that the suspect in custody is a boy. he is a sophomore, a tenth grader at franklin regional high school. we don't know much more than that. we do know he was armed with a knife. we don't know if it was one knife or more. tom, give me your impressions from what you have seen so far. >> what we are hearing is that for some reason, this student decided to attack all of these other students and at least one adult. as far as trying to find out why, i know in addition to the local police, the fbi has deployed a number of assets to help in this, including evidence

response team members, computer examiners and victim assistance individuals who will help the families of each of the victims that have sustained wounds in this and also additional agents to help conduct interviews and through the interviewing process, with witnesses and hopefully with the victims that are able to talk, they might be able to come up with a better idea of why this occurred or what caused this person to start this type of rampage, if you will, in the school. >> i wanted to post that question to dr. jeff. dr. jeff, stand by. katy kay, our local affiliate has some new information. >> the security guard with a stomach wound nearby. the officer at that time the officer had the 16-year-old subject in custody and handcuffed. at that point, we called in

other resources and had emergency medical routed to our location. further checking of the first floor hallway revealed multiple victims. apparently by the knife that the actor had. so our priority at the time was the people that needed treated medically, safety to the staff, the students are our priorities. thanks to ems and surrounding agencies with their assistance. the scene was quickly attended to. the injured were handled, taken care of. the subject is under arrest. the incident was brought to a conclusion at a fairly rapid pace. i do thank and commend school staff. they played an integral part in this. i believe that's part of the school emergency plan and operations that they have. >> that would lead to him being

put in custody. >> reporter: we understand one of the students may have hit the fire alarm to get the school cleared out. >> the school alarm was pulled, the fire alarm. again, under these circumstances, it causes chaos and panic. what we teach and we try to talk about is the first thing, you want the students to do is to run. upon my arrival, that's what we saw. the fire alarm being pulled probably assisted with evacuating the school. it was a good thing that was done. >> chief, we saw the suspect leave the police department in a police car. can you tell us where he is going and what is his status at this point? >> i am not going to tell you where he is going but i can tell you, he has injuries to his hands and he is being medically treated right now. >> how was he taken into custody? >> again, the school principal had interaction as well as the school resource officer who handcuffed him and he was

secured. >> we heard the suspect may have been bullied and that may have led to this. >> i don't know anything about that. >> well, there is really no need to discharge a weapon. we only do that in a situation where we feel it is needed. the situation was brought under control in the best manner there was. >> was the resource officer injured. >> no. >> the security guard? >> yes, that's correct. >> the principal was not stabbed. he is being looked at. >> you said the guard had a wound to the stomach. >> yes. >> were all the victims students? we are hearing mixed reports that there were some adults and some students. >> all were students but one. one is a security guard, an adult male. >> you talk about the process with the vast crime scene about

securing the school. it is time-consuming? >> it is time-consuming. we will be here for a while. thank goodness for resources, the county, the fbi and state police. it is a very intricate process. the process will take a while. it could take a matter of a couple days to do that. >> what have you learned about how the staff reacted here today? >> i don't speak for the school. i think at a later point they will be talking to you. i think school staff is very versed on emergencies. the police department works closely with the school district. the s.r.o. is part of that school. every day, he is down there, full-time police officer. we very often exchange ideas on emergencies that would occur. it is my opinion that today as unfortunate as it is, our hearts go out to all the victims and their families, i think it could have been a lot worse if there wasn't immediate action. >> other than the security guard you described, are there other

security measures here? are there any metal detectors or other types of security? >> there are security measures. i'm not going to elaborate. >> 20 injured total? >> 19. >> are they life threaten sng. >> can we talk about life-threatening or to nonlife-threatening? >> the four students injured, are they life threatening? >> i believe they are critical. >> four students in critical condition. >> the best information i have. >> was it random? do you have any idea? >> we don't know. that will be part of the investigation. we don't know what led up to this. >> we heard there may have been a threatening phone call made between the suspect and a fellow student. >> we are checking it out. >> do you know why students were found in so many different locations? >> i'll go back to saying in a situation like this, you want the students to run. going back to the fire alarm being pulled, that's the

purpose, to evacuate. you want the kids out of the area. they did. they did right. that's what they should have done. >> how were so many injured? >> the juvenile went down the hallway and was flashing two knifes around and injured the people. >> so one in each hand? >> i don't know. >> can you -- >> i am not going to confirm that right now. >> did he actually tackle the students? >> yes. >> school resource office also an emergency police officer? >> he is. >> one more question. >> repeat your name. >> thomas ceefeld. thank you very much. chief of police of murrysville. we're going to step away.

that was thomas ceefeld from murrysville. we found out more information from the impromtu press conference. we found out that the suspect is a 16-year-old boy. he was a student at the school. he was armed with two knives. we heard he ran down the hall stabbing people. we also heard that a security guard tried to intervene. he was stabbed in the stomach. we presume he is the 60-year-old in one of the hospitals in the pittsburgh area right now. we also understand the principal assisted with this situation to end it. there was also a school resource officer on the scene. they handcuffed the suspect, alerted police and the police arrived at the scene. at least i think that's the timeline. i'm not sure right now. i want to go back to tom fuentes. i know the fbi has been called in to help. what will they do? >> the fbi, carol, will be helping to process the evidence through the forensic work in the school. they will also be examining the

suspect's computers, phone records and all of that. they will be doing interviews. all of this in assistance to the local police department. because this is a student we are going to assume it is not terrorist organized and he is not a member of an international crime or terrorist drug cartel. it will be the local police and prosecutor. the fbi will be completely providing any and all assistance they ask for. >> i want to bring in dr. jeff gardere. he is a psychologist. he helps us make sense of these things you can't make sense of. we understand this 16-year-old boy was armed with two knives. the stab wounds he inflicted on these victims were deep and serious. several of the victims are in critical condition. he stabbed people mostly in the torso and in the stomach. what do you make of that? >> this was someone who was

intent on killing. we have to look at whether he was not just homicidal but also suicidal. you know, with these mass rampages, when these actors or pr perpetrators go in, there plan is not to come out alive or be taken alive. we understand there was an intervention made perhaps with the principal. i wonder whether he was talked down and cuffed or whether they had to subdue him. i'm also very, very concerned as to whether there are any past disciplinary actions against this young man. we heard some rumors of bullying and perhaps a call that was made last night between this student and another student. i will tell you, one of the things that they will do is keep him on a suicide watch because of being perhaps homicidal and suicidal. as well, they will be doing a mental health evaluation as quickly as they can.

they will be talking to family and friends of this individual to find out whether there was something brewing at home. >> we want to go back to forbes regional in nearby monroeville. doctors are describing the wounds of some of the victims. >> most of the wounds were to the lower abdomen. they seem to actually almost have a pattern. most of them were to the right lower abdomen and the right flank. that created some of the criticality of their wounds and the nature of their injuries. >> reporter: threet in te three o.r. this rng monmorning, do th significant injuries? >> yes, they do. >> reporter: what? >> to summarize, two of them have relatively severe injuries to their abdominal organs. they are undergoing surgery right now. another one has injuries to the upper abdomen, also being operated on, relatively stable. >> these puncture wounds,

slashes, how would you characterize? >> puncture wounds, stab wounds. >> reporter: how deep? >> i know nothing about the perpetrator or the injuries of how they occurred. we were just dealing with the victims. i would have to say they are deep, penetrating injuries. >> reporter: initially, when these injuries came in, what was the immediate response, who did you attend to first and what was the protocol? >> the response was really done by the trauma surgeons and actually a collection of almost all the surgeons in the house responded. i looked up at one time and i think i saw 20 surgeons in that emergency room ready to respond to these injuries. i have practiced at this hospital for the majority, if not all, of my career. i looked around and i saw a team of nurses, anesthesiologists and surgeons. we were ready to handle what came in the door. because of the trauma certification we had, we had

four trauma surgeons there. the trauma surgeons did the initial management of these injuries. really, they were quickly triaged in that emergency department nd ataken to the operating room. >> emotions had to have been running high. i can see you are kind of getting overcome with emotion and i know they were overcome with emotion earlier. can you explain what those emotions were like today? >> i'm an obstetrician, gynecologist. a number of these patients, their moms are our patients, these are kids we very likely delivered. but i think that the team doesn't really react with emotions. if i'm motional, it migemotiona coming out now. earlier, it was i aclinical response aimed at what you have to to do. one thing about being a doctor in the community you serve, you can become emotional. i was proud of the response. >> dr. rubino, was the clock literally ticking on these injuries for these students?

was it critical to get them treated as soon as possible? >> the three that are in the o.r. were critical. the response was ticking. >> reporter: were they alert and able to communicate at all? >> i would say that two of them actually had undergone intubation in the field. i think the critical part of this as well is the paramedics that responded to the nature of these injuries were unbelievable. from my understanding, there was a story of a friend that helped respond to one of the victims. they came inappropriately managed in the field. one actually already was intubated, had an endotracheal tube already established. the critical response that occurred that brought these students in and i could say two of them immediately went to the o.r. the reason they were immediately able to go to the o.r. after they had their initial

stabilization, was because of the initial care they received in the field. >> dr. kaufman greeted us earlier. he expected that all of these patients would survive. do you? >> i do, because i do want to stress the critical nature of their injuries. >> reporter: is there anything else you would like to add? >> i originally got the call at 7:30, around 7:15 this morning that there was an incident at the school. my role is that i immediately enacted our code triage, which is our disaster response team. we do not know the number of victims we would be receiving. again, i echo what dr. rubino had said, our staff, our pre-hospital partners, all the response to this incident and the true collaboration of everybody on this campus is what made the difference. it was the response we would expect and what we prepare for during drills throughout the year. we prepare for such events in case they ever happen. we do prepare for them. in our preparation served us

well today, because we all acted as well as we could given the situation. again, as dr. rubino said, very emotional for a lot of the employees in this building, because they live in the community and know many of those affected. our prayers go out to everyone who has been touched by this situation today. we know it is far reaching. >> can you explain what code triage is? >> that means where a hospital pulls all its resources together and mobilizes to the areas needed, teams of doctors, nurses, really everybody who is available in the hospital o.r. staff, anesthesia. >> does that mean people come in from outside? >> we did have people come in from home, we had people that had stayed over past their shift to make sure that their help was not needed. it is really an all hands on deck callout we need to manage a situation within our campus. >> how do you do that?

do you have like a phone tree? >> we do. we have a page that goes out. i immediately called our command center and they sent the page out to everybody and we all set up a command center and then each person has a role in that command center. public relations, operational management, staffing management, physician alarm management, capacity management. we all met in that room and then we have lists that people are in charge of calling staff to see where we need to mobilize our resources to. >> do you know how many days these patients are expected to be here? >> we would not know that this early. >> can you describe what you saw the atmosphere for the students? >> it was a clinical atmosphere. we all responded as health care providers do. we take care of our patients when they arrive on this campus and our staff response could not

have been more professional, more empathetic. we had social services on scene immediately. extra resources called in. chaplain, support. everything mobilized in two separate areas to care for not only our victims but the families with he knew we would be receiving. we made provisions for our families to be cared for and then we mobilized just about everybody in the building. the atmosphere was one of clinical skill towards this situation that has touched the community today. >> where are the families right now and what's being done to assist them? >> we have many supports in place right now from social services to psychological support and offerings being arranged for the victims, the children at the school. we have plan toss help the school district heal. the families, many are with

their children. some of them are obviously concerned for their child. >> they are here. they are all in the building. they would be in separate areas. they have their own space and then some parents are having to come in from outside the service area. they are having to fly in. they have others, grandparents, who may have been involved in the growing up of these kids. we're having to deal with all those kinds of circumstances. >> they have been able to see their children yet? >> i have met with most of them. we did match them up when possible. i talked to a dad flying in from boston for one of the victims in the operating room. the clergy has responded. they are meeting with the parents. that has been managed well. it never was out of control. the parents came in. they were all appropriate.

we did not have anything. we did not have any unlikely response of parents pulling up just to see if their child was possibly here. >> they didn't know what condition their children were in. >> correct. >> could you describe just getting that phone call initially when they say, we are going to need you. this is happening. clinically, you guys have to react and you know what to do. there has to be some sort of emotional feeling coming into that and thinking, oh, my god, this is happening. >> well, it was interesting. i was just getting ready to see a patient in my clinical office. i immediately went to the emergency department. by the time i arrived at the emergency department, the teams were all in place. no one had come yet. dr. kaufman, who heads the trauma team was there to begin triaging patients. as they came in, they were appropriately placed into the rooms according to their level

of severity. the team was ready. in addition, all the other surgeons responded in the house. so we had cardiovascular surgeons, thoracic surgeons, aor rollgists, they were all there ready to assist and help. their services were utilized as needed. >> have any of the patients been released yet and do you anticipate anybody being able to be released today? >> i don't have any information. >> we do not anticipate any discharges of the children today. >> doctor, are these multiple wounds on these critical patients or one stab wound each or how would you characterize the wounds themselves? >> i'm not really exactly sure. i am not sure how many had multiples as opposed to a large, single stab wound. again, i'm not really aware of the events that occurred at the hospital and at the school and what was described there. the students are in the operating room had pretty is he

sear injuries that were pretty penetrating in affecting them. >> a stab wound versus another kind of injury, what's that like recoverywise? what can they expect to see? >> the one thing about youth is that they are resilient. someone who is younger and strong can often tolerate these injuries better than someone else. a penetrating injury, it really has to be evaluated which organs were affected. often, that injury is never just localized to one organ. i think that's what creates the critical nature of these injuries. >> can you elaborate at all -- >> i know you said that but we heard that the suspect would be transferred to an area hospital for minor injuries? >> not coming here. >> can you elaborate on the condition of the adult? was that a staff member? >> he is in good shape. i hav m