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tv   Unguarded With Rachel Nichols  CNN  April 11, 2014 10:30pm-11:01pm PDT

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>> why do you think this neighborhood? >> it's an impoverished neighborhood. it's been always lied to by the regime. they made them feel like they're not from this country, to be >> oh, yeah. dip it right in the egg. >> dip it in the egg. >> delicious. so, where were you when it all started? >> i was in london. well, actually, manchester at the time. >> why? >> by the 27th, i was in libya. >> we went out to see his house yesterday, the compound. >> uh huh. i was one of the guys who entered from the southern gates, the unloading gates. >> akram is in the security business, a thriving industry here, as you could probably imagine. a lot of things happened in a lot of different parts of the country sort of simultaneously. kind of amazing that all of these people came together very fast. >> how did it happen? >> yeah. >> easy, twitter. >> twitter? >> yeah. >> it was really like that? >> yes. >> we went so much information to nato via twitter. we get a phone call from tripoli or benghazi or whatever. we get the coordinates via google earth. >> right. >> we verify that there is a location there that needs to be hit, send a tornado at nato and
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then it's gone. >> really? >> yeah. >> how does that feel knowing you can call in a tomahawk missile over there? >> it's out of the movies. >> did anyone think it was possible that in their lifetime they were going to see the end of this son of a bitch? most people are telling me they never dreamed. >> what's the situation now? >> it's fluid. it can swing any direction. >> well, look, what happened in benghazi a few months ago, i mean, what does this mean to the country? >> i think there is a dark, mysterious hand that doesn't like this country to prosper. they see system and organization as a big enemy to them. these concerns are slowly getting diminished. it is a matter of time before we can get rid of them. >> how hard do you think that's going to be?
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>> not hard at all. we got rid of gadhafi. nothing else is hard. >> i like your attitude. the fluid situation in libya has been intensifying since our arrival, and we've had to change our behavior, constantly moving. should i be wearing one of these cool, like, journalist safari jackets at this point? so, it seemed a good time, or maybe not -- >> saddle up. >> -- to go to misrata. >> okay, guys, we can go. >> roger that. >> since the revolution, misrata has been the most secure city in libya, but over the last two weeks, in a hail of bullets and hand-thrown grenade attacks, an imam, security forces and a police officer have all been killed. >> i want you to move forward. you can come past me. >> all along the narrow, congested highway, there are checkpoints manned mostly by local militias, and i want to stress, most of them are
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friendly enough. we are, however, in a hurry to get to misrata before dark. traveling at night around here is not advised. ♪ >> drop the camera. >> yep, yep. >> stop the camera. stop the camera. >> stop. >> pulling into town after dark, it doesn't feel like a happy place to be right now. misrata was where some of the fiercest and most heroic struggles of the war occurred. resistance was the most determined and the response by the gadhafi forces especially merciless. we've just learned that earlier in the day, a city councilman who was a hero of the revolution
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was assassinated, and it's not clear who's responsible. misrata is on full lockdown. >> another checkpoint. >> looking around at the price this city paid for freedom, you can see why they don't want to lose what they fought so hard for.
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of the fighting that took place here not so long ago. >> this here used to be a vegetable market. clothes, one of gadhafi's soldiers' clothes. >> he left him here and ran? >> yeah. that's what they did in tripoli. we head to the city. just lose their clothes and run away in the streets so nobody would know who are they. >> this is hanid, one of the guys we called the misrata boys, basically militia members from the area who looked out for us here and in tripoli when things started getting hinky in neighboring algeria and in benghazi. this is a serious tank. his job these days is hunting down former gadhafi supporters. so, the gadhafi forces rolled in. they would use these tanks to
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fire on -- >> around the city. >> around. >> yeah. it was full of tanks here. this was the operation room. >> now, if you had any doubt about the terrible odds these young revolutionaries were facing during the early days of the fighting, especially in the months before nato came in with air support, check out misrata's war museum. what did this fire? >> this fire a rocket, homemade. and there's a rocket here, over here, and fire, yeah. >> you had to have some serious courage to ride around with this thing. >> why? we trust our people. there's a lot of homemade things here. this is homemade, too.
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fires big rockets. this is garage homemade, this one. this was from a helicopter. >> yes. >> we got it and got it in the cars. >> you took it off a helicopter and put it on a car? >> yeah, uh huh. and you know what this is for? an old motor. >> it's basically a crossbow that fires molotov cocktails. >> molotov and tnt, sometimes. >> you're shooting this at people who have mortars. >> and tanks. >> tanks. >> tanks, yeah. >> you're shooting this at tanks? >> yeah, because that's what we got at the time. >> it's what you had. it's awesome. >> the next president of libya, the one who's going to be in charge, this is his chair. he has to think twice before he sits on it. >> so, never screw your people. >> yeah, never screw your people. >> yeah, i'd remember.
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>> and here, these are gadhafi stuff. >> this was all taken from the compound. >> some of it. it's mixed. that's his ak, his chair. >> her name is muna. she was 6 years when she died. >> shelled in their homes, tortured to death in prisons, shot by snipers. >> look at this kid. he died with the victory sign. they killed him like with a grenade. that's his lucky day. >> yeah.
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>> you know what he was saying? he's saying "what's going on, guys? why? why my sons? why are you doing that?" we still have the t-shirt with the blood in it. >> do you know any of these people? >> yeah, i know a couple of them. i knew a couple. this guy's egyptian. >> not even his fight, but he came. >> no, but he didn't want to leave. four of them, they died in sert, and they died in tripoli. these are brothers and sister. one, two, three, four. they died on the same day, the same house. and the mother, when we found her, she was holding the kid.
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♪ that's how you turn a corner in misrata. >> i don't know if you noticed, i'm going full blitzer on this shoot. the mediterranean sea defines libya's northern border. in shacks built along the coast, people get together on weekends to do what people do everywhere in the world in one form or another since the beginnings of society. like barbecue? who does not like barbecue? there he is. they sure like them here.
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chase down an animal. kill it. cycle of life. cut it into pieces. and throw it on a flame. >> so, all of these people are freedom fighters, ex-freedom fighters. >> right. >> so, now just chilling, having fun, making barbecue. >> to start, they grill a lamb in small pieces with a few veggies. >> not a beer, but something like it. >> i've been a week without alcohol of any kind, and i'm enjoying my new, clean-living lifestyle. that's hospitality. i've said it before, i'll say it again, barbecue may not be the road to world peace, but it's a start.
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>> people in misrata, good. >> yeah. >> relax. >> laid back. in american, laid back. a stew made of kidneys, liver and heart served family-style. feel free to eat with hands. right hand only, please. >> good food. >> and a really traditional thing left over from the italians, basically, pasta with ragu. what's this dish called? >> abuke. >> abuke. >> because the sound, bok, bok, bok, means it's ready. >> it's good. so, the italians left you one nice thing. a few nice buildings and pasta. >> and pasta, yeah. >> so the story of misrata, the story of libya, seems to be ordinary people suddenly called upon to do extraordinary things. where were you when war broke out? >> i was in canada, montreal. >> studying medicine.
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>> yes. >> dr. jihan put her medical studies on hold to help tend all manner of horrible war injuries. what kind of procedures were you doing on a regular basis? >> oh, everything, everything, without prior practice and knowledge. so, you just, like, kind of in the situation try to pick up things. >> how many patients did you treat a day? >> 60, 70. >> 60 or 70? >> it was a lot. like, the whole hospital was full. >> when you heard he had been killed, what did you feel, relief? >> i felt relieved. i was, like, realizing that, okay, it's over. i'm trying to heal my own wounds, because in the middle of it, you just go, go, go, and you never realize how much injuries and trauma you get inside yourself. >> right. >> because we probably never think, like, we're going to survive and have a free libya or anything, because it is just going with the state of mind that i'm going to do myself and i'm already in peace with myself if i die. then you find yourself here now, and it is like, now, it is the
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gray area. >> jihan risked her life along with the men, but traditional and high-bound rules of conduct do not allow her to sit with them during dinner. she's relegated to what might be the called the kids' table. what can one say, we who think of ourselves as more enlightened in this area? i don't know. rightly or wrongly, i said nothing. what does freedom mean? i don't know that either, i guess. for sure, it does mean the freedom to enjoy an afternoon no one thought possible only a little while ago, the freedom, at least, to joke, to laugh, to be for a while relatively carefree.
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the road to tripoli, a healthy breakfast. ooh, liver sandwich. when they talked about a high-risk environment, i think they were talking about this. it's good! >> halfway back to tripoli, the magnificent ruins of leptis magna, arguably the most intact remains of a roman city in the world. it's worth noting that the at one time, the emperor of all rome was himself libyan. that's pretty amazing. born right here.
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someone chipped off all their dicks, not that i was looking. anywhere else in the world, this place would be overrun with tourists. but look, no one. you're free to wander as you wish. quite a backdrop, you know? you're seeing a little dinner theater production of "our town" a couple of thousand years ago. not bad. the only other visitors today are a troop of libyan boy scouts. bizarrely enough, gadhafi himself was once a scout and this was one of the only organizations allowed to remain independent of the government. maybe i should go down there and introduce myself to some former comrades, exchange some boy scout lore. yes, yes, i was once a boy scout, too.
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hello. drilled into their heads is something that was long ago drilled into mine. i promise to be trustworthy, loyal, helpful, friendly, courteous, kind, obedient, cheerful, thrifty, brave, clean and reverent. [ speaking foreign language ]
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>> you know, it's been a really difficult shoot for a whole lot of reasons. it's not easy to shoot here. but in spite of all of that, for me, this was a happy show. it's libya. they were supposed to be the bad guys, a bad country filled with bad people, right? i don't think so. i met a lot of really nice people here. nobody is saying we're going to be perfect tomorrow. everybody seems to be saying, you know, look at us in five years. today, that's a pretty reasonable attitude. >> new libya! >> this is a place that's filled with a lot of extraordinary people who have done extraordinary things on very short notice, under very difficult circumstances and at a
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very difficult time, who are continuing to do the best they can, and i wish them well. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com chances are you haven't been to this place. chances are this is a place you've never seen. other than maybe blurry cell phone videos, old black-and-white newsreels from world war ii. chances are bad things were happening in the footage you saw.

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