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search area for missing flight 370 was narrowing, we're learning this morning it is growing again. why is the australian prime minister so confident. the black box search, is it really within reach? leave the center of town and take cover in your apartment. that is the warning from ukraine's interyoor minuior min.
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secretary kerry is warning russia to back off. they can't keep us down, these terrorist events that keep happening we need to rise pof them. >> tuesday marks the one-year anniversary of the boston bombing. today, runners remember the terror and prepare to honor the fallen in this year's race. your "new day" starts now. take a nice deep breath, good exhale out this morning, as it is sunday. okay, let's get it together here. >> center yourself. >> i'm christipaul. >> i'm victor blackwell. the search for malaysia airlines 370 is growing and growing more desperate. it is has been five days since crews detected what may have been a ping from the airliner. many fear the worst that the batteries inside the black boxes, the pingers may be dead,
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and the jet possibly may never be found. >> today the search area expanded yet again by 43% in fact. it was about 15,000 or 16,000 yesterday. today it's 22,000 square miz, that's about the size of maryland and vermont combined. just yesterday the search area had shrunk as i said to 16,000 square miles, that was the smallest size so far. >> today, 12 planes, 14 ships are scouring the southern indian ocean in a dire attempt to find any sign of the plane and that search grows more complicated by the hour. currents in the indian ocean can move a piece of debris up to 25 miles in a single day. >> also not getting any smaller a list of suspects. the country's transportation minister is once again saying no one can be ruled out until the black boxes are found. >> for more erin mac laughlin is live in perth, australia.
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the search about this time every day wraps up, at least the aerial search. what is happening today? >> reporter: hi, victor. well, the search for the elusive pings is continuing. as far as we know the ocean shield and the british vessel the "hms echo" continue to comb the waters. efforts by air as well, surveillance planes trying to pick up any pings from the sonar buoys they have deployed out on to the waters. as far as we know it's been silent since tuesday. authorities have long said they want to exhaust this effort. they want to be absolutely certain the black box pinger battery has completely expired before they deploy the underwater vehicle, the bluefin 21 provided by the you u.s. navy. the question is when at this point, given the fact ta t has been silent for some day days, will they feel comfortable
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making that assumption. >> i wanted to ask you, erin, do you know why they expanded the search area after they had narrowed it yesterday? >> well, they didn't give us a specific reason. every day they've been refining this search area based on their analysis of the oceanic. this is the search area for the debris, keep in mind, and today they expanded it by some 6,000 square miles which may sound like a lot but considering the current search area is about a quarter of what it was some ten days ago, it's really not that much. while they have made a lot of progress in terms of narrowing down the search field, what they haven't done is made any progress in terms of finding any debris from the plane despite hours and hours and hours of scouring the ocean, they have yet to find a single piece. again, it is some 36 days since this plane went missing and they have some 36 days of oceanic
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drift to contend with. >> erin mclaughlin live in perth, australia, thank you. let's talk about this with mary schiavo. >> and a cnn safety analyst and author of "why planes crash." good morning to both of you. first to you, mary. i'll ask you the question that christi just put to air. why do you believe this search area is growing? >> i think probably what they did is they were tong refine their data. they have algorithms they apply to where the pings are located and based on that they estimate where it could be from each ping. it could be five or so miles distance and how many miles deep and they keep refining that data. so i suspect with the absence of any more pings from my sono buoys. they have the four pings they have, doing their best to calculate where it might be in
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relation to the four pings. not an exact science unfortunately. >> you know, david, just yesterday, australian prime minister tony abbott had said the search was "narrowing" and that he was confident they were going to find the black box. now on day 37 as we sit here we're getting all these conflicting reports and these messages. what do you make of this investigation and we know that things change during investigations, but this has been 37 days of ups and downs and twists and turns. would you have expected them to have something more contreat by now? >> i think there's a bit of confusion at least in my mind. they're not really being specific when they say they expand the searches, is it the air search they expanded or the search for the black box? because the black box from what i've got information wise is that it's actually stayed the same. it hasn't gone anywhere. it's the air search, the drift that's gotten larger and that would make sense to me. by now the ocean spread the debris out, if there is debris,
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has spread it out. they'd have to increase that search size, less which areas they've searched but that would make sense if we define it as two different search areas. the ping i'm confident has remained the same. >> today at the news conference, the acting transportation minister says that the amalaysin attorney general is in london discussing, "who actually has custody over the black box" with the u.n. international civil aviation authorization and other legal experts. do you expect there will be a fight over custody of the black boxes, once those are retrieved? >> well, not if the malaysians are smart about it. the treaty does technically, the international civil aviation organization agreements, which all aviation nations agree to comply with, does give malaysia the primary authority. however, there can be
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differences on that, and if australia, and i don't think australia would do this, technically they claim it's theirs pause it's nearest to them or some dispute over who could do it, theoretically they could weigh in on opinion on just who should have that. the malaysians already said they don't have the capability of analyzing that black box, i am fairly confident they will have to call in one or all of four nations, which would be australia, britain, france, and the united states. those are the four countries that could realistically do that work on the black box, and it would be a huge mistake for malaysia to take it and try to work on it themselves, because they've already said they don't have the expertise. >> david, what do you make of the back and forth about the passengers, the crew, the pilots. one minute they're cleared, the next minute everybody's a suspect. do you think that they would have more information on them and be able to even release more
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to us, to get more information maybe from the public about some of these people? it doesn't seem like they've done that or is that just not protocol. >> protocol is something i haven't seen a lot of from the malaysian government actually. there's even this morning when the malaysian prime minister, the minister of transport had said this morning that i don't see that any place chief could exonerate or make a determination on these passengers as to whether they're nefarious intent was carried out by them or not. i'm not sure how he put that exactly but the point is, is that he's referring to the police chief as they have their own direction, their own place to go and have their own reports going on and it just doesn't seem, maybe there's something i don't understand about the malaysian government, but in the united states, that wouldn't happen. the inspector in charge would be the one communicating and it's been very confusing from the beginning, not only from me but can you imagine the families and
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what they're going through, trying to get all this different information put into place. >> exactly, that's why i think for them. >> tormenting is the word that some of them have used, as this goes on and on and on. mary shy co, david soucie, thank you for joining us this morning. we'll continue to talk about it throughout the morning. >> thank you. the tensions escalate in another part of the world, ukraine, amid reports of pro-russia gunmen storming government buildings. look at this video. just grabbing this man by the throat. we'll have more of the video and a report from the region. this story is developing at this hour. >> think about this, president obama prepares to visit malaysia, right in the heart of the search for the missing plane. no doubt something he had not imagined when this trip was planned. we have that report ahead. i take prilosec otc each morning for my frequent heartburn.
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[ gunfire ] you hear it there, the sounds of gunfire. can you hear the cheers, too? cheering "moscow, crimea, russia." that's what you're hearing in several cities in the ukraine this mission. >> they stormed a police station and seized hundreds of weapons. ukraine is sending in troops to tackle the situation. nick paton walsh joins us from slaviansk. is there more violence this morning? >> reporter: there certainly is according to the interior minister. they haven't had much success because the same protesters are
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still in control of the security service building and the police station that they took yesterday. they're still armed and everyone there remarkably calm. so whatever operation has been launched, and we have seen helicopters in the skies, that operation's not had the success of removing the armed men inside those buildings. in fact, the interior minister himself said that the security services are now regrouping. so we're in a difficult situation here but clearly for the if, time, ukraine has chosen to use force against pro-russian militants in crimea, and after much international trying to avoid bloodshed. government buildings, police station, are being taken by protesters, often with pro-russian militants backing them up which the state department says addressed and behaved similarly to those in crimea, of course many people in the crowd here insist everyone
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involved is local and there are no outside forces assisting. we are seeing a dangerous, new development here. many people wondering if this is the beginning of some broader move to try and occupy or remove parts of eastern ukraine away from the mainland, or whether we're seeing slow decisions by local groups of people crying out for independence or referendums to bring them closer towards russia. very worrying last 24 hours. >> nick, i wanted to ask you to expand on that a little bit. as we watched this, we're wondering, are the people, the pro-russian protesters in these cities, were they there all along and they were just, you know, kind of silent, because they were under ukrainian control or are these protesters that have come from other places, and are moving further east in the ukraine? >> reporter: it's very hard to tell specifically but i've had locals try to prove me they are from that town. frankly there's no reason to
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doubt that, because they seem comfortable, they seem to know where they are. it does seem a lot of the protesters are local in many ways and one of the checkpoints on the highway from the main city out to slaviansk a man pulled out his i.d. and showed his birth place on there as well. there's certainly a lot of local support for this. the question, has that been coordinated and fomented from outside or a grassroots possible. you have to ask yourself how is it possible so many towns, similar moved, backed up with similarly pro-russian coordinates. some suggest it's those inside the administration building are running this, of course the u.s. state tent and others much more suspicious about the kremlin. >> the violence there is ramping up fast. nick paton walsh on the phone
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from ukraine. vice president biden will be traveling to kiev april 22nd, next sunday to meet ukrainian leaders. >> the white house said in a statement the vice president will underscore the united states' strong support for a united, democratic ukraine that makes its own choices about its future path. no doubt the president hopes that by the time he arrives in malaysia, they will have located flight 370. other way, this obviously this t what he envisioned when he visited kuala lumpur. i tell people it's for the climate. the conditions in new york state are great for business. new york is ranked #2 in the nation for new private sector job creation. and now it's even better because they've introduced startup new york - dozens of tax-free zones where businesses pay no taxes for ten years. you'll get a warm welcome in the new new york.
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well here's some, let's call it ironic timing. later this month, the president, president obama is visiting malaysia. >> he was hoping to point to malaysia as a mostly muslim nation that is ramping up economically, opening up politically, give them a shout out. >> that's a little bit tougher now. whether they found the plane or not, by the time the president arrives. here's cnn's joe johns. >> reporter: last october, u.s. president barack obama postponed a trip to malaysia, due to washington's government shutdown crisis. now as he prepares for his rescheduled visit later this month, malaysia is reeling from a crisis of its own, the missing airliner, mh-307 has thrust this mostly muslim country into the international spotlight and put the party that has controlled the government for decades suddenly on the defensive. the forces of mass media carefully controlled in the past
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are beginning to assert themselves in new ways. it's rush hour in kuala lumpur and evening drive talk radio at this english language station is filled with chatter about the missing plane. >> it's tom here with caroline and ezra on the evening edition asking you one month since the disappearance of flight mh-370, what type of impact has it had on malaysia's image. >> reporter: callers are concerned about the government sometimes contradictory messages. >> the country needs to have a more coherent story, more for the facts and it must be done in a more proper way. >> reporter: it's starting to take its toll on the government. >> from the people i speak to, everyone has a pretty bad perception of the people in charge of this whole incident. >> people have been outraged. people have been upset. there's a lot of empathy and sympathy and frustration. >> reporter: a recent poll here
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showed 50% of respondents dissatisfied with the way the government has handled the missing plane crisis. 43% said they approved of the government's conduct and 7% were not sure. >> a government for many years have been respected by the people and i think this crisis has brought about a realization of the limits of the capacity of the ma lash government in handling this crisis. >> reporter: the poll is tracked with general attitudes in urban areas, even though the majority party is rural, the attention to the government sometimes uneven handling of the crisis is still a wake-up call for the country's leaders who point out that none of this is easy. >> the search operation has been difficult, challenging, and complex. but in spite of all this, our determination remains undiminished. >> the malaysian public now demands more of our leaders, more so than in the past five, ten years ago. >> reporter: joe johns, cnn,
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kuala lumpur, malaysia. >> of course we'll continue to follow the effect on malaysia's image, as this continues. still to come on "new day," the search area for flight 370, that search zone just expanded, not just a little bit, but more than 40%. we'll have the latest on the investigation action and the search for debris, still nothing out there. plus a dream vacation, let's just say it is not one for at least 300 cruise passengers. why the cdc is getting involved now. ♪ what's going on, yeah, what's going on ♪ ♪ tell me what's going on in the last 23 years, but i needed help in quitting smoking. [ male announcer ] along with support, chantix varenicline is proven to help people quit smoking. chantix reduced the urge for me to smoke. it actually caught me by surprise. [ male announcer ] some people had changes in behavior, thinking, or mood, hostility, agitation, depressed mood, and suicidal thoughts or actions while taking or after stopping chantix.
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by strong winds. 3,000 people have been evacuated and authorities plan to move 2,000 inmates out of a jail to avoid fast-moving flames. witnesses to the deadly crash in california have now told the ntsb a fedex truck was already in flames when it slammed into that bus. ten people, including five students, were killed. investigators say the truck did not brake as it crossed the median but tire marks indicated the bus driver tried to avoid the crash. the standoff between the feds and ranchers supported by militia members is over. the bureau of land management called off a rancher cliven bundy's cattle and returned some 300 head it seized in a grazing rights dispute. the government will try to settle with bundy some other way. number four police in kansas city, missouri, reportedly linked at least a dozen recent shootings along area roadways but aren't saying which of the
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roughly 20 cases under review this connected. police still aren't releasing any suspect or information. it's been a week since any related incidents were reported. number five likely headed out on vacation, three possible outbreaks of norovirus on two different cruise ships. at least 300 passengers have fallen ill. one belongs to royal caribbean, the other is princess cruise. passengers may reschedule their vacation if they're books on the ship's upcoming voyage. returning now to the search for flight 370. it's been five days now, five days since these crews last detected what may have been a ping from the airliner's black boxes and a lot of people are fearing that the batteries in those pingers are dead. >> today the search area expanded yet again and we just got some new numbers i want to
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share with you. by 39% they're saying to more than 22,000 square miles. just yesterday, remember, that area had shrunk to 16,000 square miles, which was the smallest area thus far. >> today, 12 planes, 14 ships are scouring the southern indian ocean. this as you know is a dire ater attempt to find the black boxes, any part of this plane. >> joining us to discuss the latest, simon with the national oceanic center. >> and mary, a senior profiler. simon, starting with you, what do you make of this expanded search area? >> please be careful, the expanded area is the search area at the surface and as time has gone on, things have spread out over a wide area. they have a fairly good handle on the currents in this region but if we're looking for surface debris that area will expand with time. but the search area is based on the pings that they've picked up
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a few days ago. that search area is still very, very small because those pingers can only transmit two or three miles at most. so that search area is very focused. you've got to be careful you don't confuse the two. >> mary o'toole, the suspects, there have been a lot made of the fact that they haven't honed in on anyone in particular and we've had some information coming in that has just been so contradictory, one minute everybody on the plane is a suspect, the next minute all the passengers are cleared, the next minute everybody's still a suspect. would you have suspected by now that they would have at least had a more narrow list of who they were looking at or do you think they're just not sharing with us? >> they may not be sharing it with us but i would examine the that they would have a much smaller group of people that they're looking at, and this is something that law enforcement does on a regular basis throughout the world. we're used to looking at large groups of people and vetting out
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those who could be suspects and those who aren't. this is standard operating procedure for any law enforcement agency. i would expect that they have narrowed down their lists, but in fact they may not be releasing that to the media. >> mary, i want to stay with you on this one. i add this, this morning and thought of you first. the acting transportation minister said of the inspector general of police in malaysia that they found nothing suspicious of the passenger manifest. however, "he did not say that they had all been cleared" speaking of passengers" on the four issues that the police are still investigating, possible hiing jag, psychological and personal problems." without the black boxes being retrieved how does one clear these people of those four? how do you do it? >> well, again, it's something that law enforcement does all the time. we take an individual or a group of people and we have a standardized questionnaire that's been designed
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specifically for that case, and there are specific questions that we would want to ask about everyone on that plane, passengers and crew, and we would then make sure that we do that because there are different levels of interviewing skill that are involved. once we get those questionnaires back, that information would come say for example to my unit, the behavioral analysis unit and we would vet those responses, because we would not be looking for phrases like, well, he was a god guy or she was really a god mother. we'd be really going much deeper into the person's personality, their lifestyle, their political beliefs, their religious beliefs and so forth. so it would be a standard procedure we would use and most agencies throughout the country would follow that particular routine as well. >> simon, being we haven't heard any pings lately, would you advise that they now sthaeend t
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bluefin underwater drone in, is it time in. >> i think so. i think the design life of the batteries on the pingers were 30 days. we're now over that, and that's a reasonable -- the most one could ever hope for. to be honest with you, i think it's about time to put the bluefin 21 to start searching the seabed. >> all right. simon, one last one to you. i know that in the past there have been these efforts to reassemble planes after crashes in lieu of finding the black box. if they find the black box, do you think there is a need to bring the plane to the surface? or would they leave it there at the bottom of the ocean? >> i think they need to find the black box first to find out whether they can learn anything from the black box. to raise the plane from the
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seabed would be difficult. the chances of everything being there on the seabed nice and neatly is fairly thin. until they find anything on the seabed. the big problem so far is they found nothing. there is no, not one piece of a 777 has turned up. so until they find something, it's hard to say what they will do next. finding the black box may or may not, even if they find it, it may not answer the questions. we're assuming that the black box will be the panacea, it will tell us what happened. it may not and which case you know, looking at the profiles, the passengers, the big question is, was this some form of freak mechanical accident or was it human intervention? black box may tell us that. it may not. >> hopefully the answers are there in that black box thus far. no answers at all. oceanographer simon boxall and senior fbi profiler mary ellen
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malaysia's defense minister says that until the missing plane's black boxes are found, he can't clear the passengers and crew from the shadow of suspicion. >> that's what he told cnn's ninic robertson who is trying to iron out new inconsistencies in what malaysia officials are saying. >> reporter: good morning, nic robertson from cnn, how are you? >> i'm having a meeting later. i'm doing my walk abouts. >> reporter: we've requested an interview many times -- with that, the man heading malaysia's hunt for missing flight 370 is off. hishamuddin hussein, acting transport minister is hosting an international arms fair, from helicopters to tanks to guns. reporters invited along. some questions apparently not so welcomed. >> when precisely were the civilian -- you don't have to push. as his tour continues, his aides
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advise us to wait for his press conference. that's good, because the question he just refused to answer, when the military told civilians here they picked up flight 370 on their radar, is an increasingly contested question. precisely when did the military inform the department of civil aviation about what they saw on the radar? >> i said earlier on this -- >> reporter: no answer then. he doesn't want flight 370 questions. but as the conference continues, turns out some flight 370 questions are okay. are you any closer to deciding who will extract the data from the black box? >> yes, we are getting closer to that issue. they are discussing exactly that. >> reporter: two days ago you said that even the passengers were still under investigation, but a week ago the igf police said passengers cleared from
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investigation. which is it? >> that has been clarified. unless we find more information specifically on data in the black box, i don't think any chief of police would be in a position to say that they'd be cleared. >> reporter: are you in a position to rule out terrorism? >> we can have a session with cnn later. >> reporter: questions still to be answered. >> all right, so nic's live with us now. nic, what are some of the questions for all of you there, that you think need to be answered that they're avoiding? >> reporter: for sure one of them is the question we're asking there, we have a source that has said it would take three days for the military to inform civilian authorities that they didn't tell them what the military picked up on their radar systems and that's becoming an internal issue here. we're also do not have a clear time line of which official knew precisely what and when, when was the prime minister informed
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about it, when was the defense minister informed about it, when precisely did the military put up their search aircraft, all these questions that by now after five weeks, must be quite apparent to officials, but yet no one has put on the record here, and that obviously later and all of this will count towards potentially lost time in getting to locate where the plane is. so there's a lot at stake and still very key questions, not being answered here. christi? >> a lot of questions out there. nic robertson in kuala lumpur for us, thank you. >> thank you, nic. realize it's nearly a year after the boston bombings here, and look at runners here. they are getting ready for another marathon. going to be pretty emotional this year as we think about the folks there. we'll have a report from the finish line for you. also which technology are the searchers using underwater to find the black boxes, maybe some wreckage. how does it work? we'll show you. [ julie ] the wrinkle cream graveyard.
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you're looking at photos from a special "sports illustrated" boston strong photo shoot. the magazine invited fans to the finish line in light of tuesday's first anniversary of the marathon bombings and ahead of next week's big race. attendees include mayor marty wal walsh, the police commissioner and marathon participants. the magazine will select one of the photos for the cover of next woke's issue. after the shoot the boston police department tweeted this "thanks to all who turned out
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for today's sportsily traited cover shoot. we are all #bostonstrong!" >> next monday, a week from tomorrow, thousands of runner also lace up their sneakers and run the race they never got to finish. >> for so many people, this year's marathon is about a whole lot more than just crossing the finish line, it's about moving on from that attack that left three people dead and injured hundreds. cnn's alexander field has more for us. good morning. >> the approaching anniversary of the attacks on boston is already bringing back a flood of painful memories for so many people. at the same time, it is inspiring others to lace up their shoes and get back out there for reasons that are varied and deeply personal. freshly painted finish line and with it a new beginning for 36,000 unarers ready to cross it. >> april 15th last year was the hardest day i've had since, you know, the fall of 2001, the
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emotions and feels came crashing back. >> reporter: when the fwbombs wt off at last year's marathon, sally's husband reached mile 25. she was unharmed but she quickly became determined. >> knew after last year's bombings that i was going to run no matter what and there was nothing that could stop me from being a part of it. it was such an emotional, crazy time. >> reporter: for duvall, it was all too similar to that september day almost 12 years before. her brother, teddy maloney, who worked at the world trade center, never came home. >> i think that i feel very strongly that they can't keep us down, and these kind of events, these terrorist acts that keep happening, you know, we need to rise above them. >> reporter: this year, running the boston marathon will still be a feat for the elite, but also a job for runners with unfinished business and an
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opportunity for anyone who saw the devastation and wants to help heal the heartbreak. >> this being my first marathon, i'm really thinking i'm overwhelmed at times, but then i say i have to practice what i preach so i'm hearing myself. >> narrator: joanne pomodoro is a clinical social worker at mass general hospital and a first time runner. >> ptsd doesn't come up until probably three to six months after an event and many times if people don't work on what the issue is, then they may reexperience it, so not being at the course, not training again on the course, and then all of that might become a flooding experience, with too many emotions. >> reporter: putting one foot in front of the other, duvall has spent years learning how to move forward in the face of devastating loss. this year, she may help show
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others the way. >> i think that you just have to stick with your routine and breathe in and breathe out every day, and the anniversary will come and be very, very emotional, but you move through it and feel a sense of relief as you get past that day. >> sally duval says she will be running the boston marathon alongside her husband who has run then marathon for the last ten years and later this year, she plans to run a 100-mile race. plenty of inspiration right there. >> no doubt. alexandra field thank you so much and our thoughts are with all those folks. next on "new day," a demonstration of these auvs, the autonomous underwater vehicles. what is the technology like? how does it work? you'll only see it here. some financial guidanceker d so she could take her dream to the next level. so we talked about her options. her valuable assets were staying. and selling her car wouldn't fly.
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you know that searchers have had some success in locating possible pings from black wboxe aboard flight 370. the investigation is really going to kick into high gear once debris is found. >> that's when the underwater vehicles like the bluefin 21 will be launched. rosa flores joins with us a look at how the technology works. rosa, good morning. >> christi, victor, i'm in a lab in a company called ocean susher. these auvs have thousands of little pieces but they've got one main purpose, and that is to map the ocean floor. this probe is the latest technology that could be used to find flight mh-370.
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using sight scan sonar it searches for things that don't belong beneath the side. what is side scan sonar? >> it is an acoustic technology based on reflection of the sound rather than reflections of light. >> reporter: the autonomous underwater vehicle, an auv, is gathering information to create a map of the sea floor. this time it's the bottom of a massachusetts reservoir, but it could be the depths of the indian ocean. >> the sights can consist of an electronics package inside the vehicle, basically a computer that processes the data to make the pulse and bring back the pulse and configure it into an image. >> reporter: it moves back and forth along the surface, but some auvs can dive deep into the ocean. sonar helps identify and find debris like this submerged car. >> once we identify the target
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we did this cross pattern, so we pulled in the sonar file, went to the location and got a better high def image of the car. >> reporter: in the case of flight 370, an auv would face a number of obstacles that could stretch this entire process out for months or years. to get a real time close-up image, this remotely operated vehicle, or rov, uses a map to visit the location. >> it's pretty choppy so the visibility is quite reduced. >> and the depths of the indian ocean you'd probably use sonar if the water is deep and dark. >> yes. >> reporter: and then perhaps the camera? >> exactly. >> reporter: once it's there, it uses a camera and claws to pick up debris. bringing critical evidence and hopefully answers to the surface. here's what's fascinating about this technology, whether it's this auv, which is for shallow
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water or a deep water auv like the one in the indian ocean, the technology is the same, uses side scan sonar, the information is processed and creates a map of the ocean floor. christi, victor? >> rosa flores, thank you so >> rosa flores, thank you so much. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com tther the clocthe clri littp littr littp little b morning.r >> i>> > . >> having a real good sunday. let's start with the breaking news this morning, out of ukraine. ukraine interior minister's facebook account says one pro-russian activist has been killed in slaviansk. the protest groups have been on a rampage this weekend, taking
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over government buildings, breaking out windows, climbing in. kiev is calling this an act of aggression by russia and now accusing moscow of helping them. now our crews on the ground are not seeing signs of violence but we have details in a moment, we've got a live report from the region of what is happening there. the seven for malaysia's airline flight 370 is growing more desperate now. it's been five days since the search crews last detected those sounds, what they thought could be pings from the beacons of the black boxes of the airliner. many fear the worst that the batteries inside the beacons, the pingers, are dead and the jet may never be found >> so today one of the big pieces of news is that the search area expanded yet again by 39% to 22,000 square miles. so that's about the size of maryland and vermont combined, but remember just yesterday the search area shrunk to 16,000
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square miles which was the smallest size thus far. >> let's talk about the search today. 12 planes, 14 ships, scouring the southern indian ocean. it is a dire attempt to find any sign of black boxes, any debris of the plane. and the search grows more complicated by the day because the currents in the indian ocean can move a piece of debris up to 25 miles in a day. let's go to will ripley, there in perth, australia, live for us. will, do we know why the search area expanded? >> reporter: victor, all along what we've been told is this a constant process of refining the search area. they scour the air analyzing data and looking at currents. we are 37 days into the process and it's been a full week since the black box batteries were supposed
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supposedly rated until. we need to find this debris field but we don't know right now, given where this debris field may be moving and it's constantly moving in the indian ocean. seeing the search area get bigger isn't necessarily a sign of a setback. it's increased to 22,000 square miles, twice the size of massachusetts as you've been saying. it means they're continuing to refine, continuing to search. >> we see it's dark there now. it looks like it, as it's 7:00 in the evening for you. when are we going to get our next update on the search efforts, will? >> reporter: all along, angus hueston said he will only call a press update when he has something to announce. we've seen press conferences called with two hours' notice and gone several days without an update. so we really don't know when there will be the next update. i ran into angus houston for a
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brief time. he was just reading through the sunday paper scanning the news, just like someone would do on a sunday morning, didn't seem particularly any sense of urgency other than the search effort is continuing so we could see an update this week at some point. the big question a lot of people want to know is if we continue not to hear pings, when is the search going to be transitioned from the underwater listening to deploying that submersible. that is the big question and a lot of people are thinking this could be the week when we get the answer. we'll have to wait and see when they call their press conference. >> will ripley we appreciate it. thank you so much. >> thank you, will. let's talk more with mary sky voe, former inspector general with the u.s. transportation department. >> we have david soucie, author of "why planes crash" and tom fuentes, thanks to all three of you for joining thus morning. just yesterday the australian prime minister reaffirmed his
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could ha confidence narrowing the search on the black boxes. mary, do you find it i guess typical that the search area rooking for the debris would expand considering the literal and figurative fluidity of this area? >> sure. the search area on the debris is going to expand because the currents take it further and further away and i'm not surprised at this point, 37 days out, that they don't find debris. the fact they're searching for it in the far-flung corners of the indian ocean is really admirable but over time things sink even if they floated initially and the debris is going to be scattered. there was a crash in the java sea years back and in that case they had to go out and offer rewards for people to turn in wreck wreckage. it doesn't surprise me it's
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continuing to expand. putting it on the what you have level and the factual level, the pings are the same, the locations are the same, spread out about 17 miles, so that area still the find. it's no worse than it was two or three days ago. they just don't have anything to make it better. i really see they're pretty much in the same position and just waiting to put the submersibles in. and i expect that will come in a day or two. >> david, do you think that's a day or two away and how confident with all this information that keeps changing and yet today no press conference, because they don't know that there's anything significant to report. how confident are you that they are going to find this thing at some point? >> i'm very confident. we look at what the pinger is. i've been getting a lot of questions about the numbers i've been throwing out. i wanted to take a second to talk about that. 37 kill hertz is what this pinger puts out. that's a dog whistle sound, between 25 kilohertz.
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you are hearing simulations what the sound is. it's also at 160 decibels. think about how loud that is, it's very loud, ten times louder than osha requires hearing protection for humans. so it's 160 decibels, about as loud as a gunshot. if you think about being in the mountains and shoot a gun or hear a gunshot, you have no idea where that's coming from, you hear the gunshot. that's where they're at right now. but there is a region you have to stay within, where that pinger did the first time, two miles, for two hours they heard this pinging sound and so i'm very confident that they found that, they had plenty of time to analyze the sound, make sure it was consistent at one second, one ping per second. i'm confident in that two-hour stretch. >> tom, let's talk about the investigation and the conversation, intervow with sky news the acting transportation
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minister said in essence everyone is still a suspect. how would someone or i'll ask you, is it possible that someone on board who was not a pilot can get the training necessary to disassemble some of the systems on board, know where radar is, avoid it, going across malaysia, going around indonesia, without investigators knowing exactly how they got all that knowledge? >> well, victor, that might be easy if you had a gun to the pilot's head and said do it. so we just don't know. there's no absolute proof that the cockpit was not breached. we haven't heard a lot about their normal cockpit security procedure to know if that would be very common for the pilots to invite guests up or just not really pay attention to keeping that locked and secure as much as they should. that's still an unknown factor in this. the fact that the radars have been so suspect or the analysis of the radar separate from the
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inmarsat satellite that determined the plane was in the indian ocean. the radar is so inconsistent, the reporting has been so, in the absence of knowing one thing for sure, then we assume something else. we didn't see it go across indonesia, therefore it must have gone around. disappeared off the radar for 120 miles, maybe it dipped down to 4,000 feet. so all of these are really theories. it's not proven. it's not positive information of what exactly that airplane did, how high it went, how low it went, left, right, otherwise. lot of it's being kind of guessed at based on limited radar data, analysis of radar data that's changed or reporting of it that changed. really, we just don't know. we want that flight recorder to say exactly where that plane flew. it won't tell us why or who directed it but it will be a
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better idea of what the plane did. >> mary, when nic robertson tried to get an answer out of the transport minister in malaysia, he asked when did the military inform the department of civil aviation what they saw on radar regarding this, and he refused to answer, does it make you uncomfortable or suspicious in any way that malaysia refuses to answer that question and possibly others, or is that just information that the public shouldn't be privy to at this point? >> no, from my experience in government, in our own government, most of the time when the government refuses to answer a question, usually what's behind it is they don't know or they're confused. most likely what occurred, they aren't too sure what occurred and when the plane dropped off radar they don't know what it did. they're trying to fill in the holes. they should have known what it did because that's their job. they simply don't have all the answers and don't want us to know that, that's usually when
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that's what's on the streets of several cities now in eastern ukraine this weekend. it seems that they're crossing some borders here, folks. ukraine's interior minister's facebook account says one pro-russian activist has been killed in slavainsk. >> pro-russian groups wearing some hodgepodge mismatched combat fatigues stormed a police station, they seized hundreds of weapons. look at the bottom left, breaking into the window and climbing into here. ukraine is sending in troops to tackle the situation. we have nick paton walsh on the phone from slaviansk. we're just hearing reports that separatist protesters have seized the office, the mayor's office in mariopol in eastern ukraine. tell us what you know about this. >> reporter: it's still early
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information coming out of mariapol. if it were we have local media reports and i should say in the past 24 hours a lot of confusing information about what protesters have achieved in many of the different cities, where there have been claims of overrun buildings. if something is happening in mariapol it's significant because it's large and along the coast. if you look at where the incidents have been happening in eastern ukraine it's a form of loose circle around the key city of benetsk. those who say moscow is involved will point to that geographical tactic, where the messages are held is in fact being sealed off. going back to slaviansk, the interior minister quite clear this morning he was going to launch an anti-terror investigation to combat the pro-russians inside the city. he later said civilians stay away from your windows, stay
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inside and said one of his soldiers had been killed and five injured in that operation. we've just come back from inside slaviansk and it's quite clear people are not hiding indoors, going about their normal business. there's no sense of violence having been on the streets. the only thing we noticed is the barricades around the ukrainian security service building taken by the pro-russian militants, very well equipped and armed and being reinforced and a strong crowd forming around the police station there. on the ground there's no sign of any battle having taken place. it may have been brief or elsewhere but there's also a distinct absence of any sign of the ukrainian government inside that town. we saw one police car race through with its siren on and saw a helicopter pass across the skies above us. so a distinct lack of ukraine authority and many people asking what the interior minister's operation was meant to achieve and where it was. >> nic, how much opposition are
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you seeing? how many people in the towns, you're not seeing any ukrainian forces formally but is anybody else really fighting these people who are pro-ukrainian and to that second point then, the people that are pro-russian, are these people who were already living in these towns or is this an influx of people from other areas? >> reporter: it's very hard to kind of poll these protesters but the majority of them do seem local. i think it's also important to point out that when you see organized protesters bussed, it they seem bewildered of their surroundings. people seem to know where they are and what they're doing. some of them are at the checkpoints on highways show me their i.d.s showing me they were born locally. the idea everyone is being bussed in from russia, when we speak to individuals on the ground but to your earlier point the remarkable difference -- absolutely few pro-ukrainian voices on the streets.
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there aren't competing protests. it's w it's homogenous. they don't tolerate dissent, some are armed as well so a marked difference here that is jaw-dropping in many ways. 24, 36 hours ago we were talking about isolated incidents of people small in number, now we're seeing town after town after town similar demonstrations, armed men backing them up, storming these buildings and really even hearing a sense of the ukrainian government simply not there. >> nick paton walsh covering what's happening there around the city of denetsk in eastern ukraine we'll continue to check in with you. thank you very much. changing gears a bit here, a lot actually. >> it's a big change here. >> a big change. big day for golf, former champion bubba watson is tied at the top of the masters
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watson, big drama building at augusta national in georgia. joe carter is here to set the stage for us. >> why aren't you out there? >> that's a question for the higher pay graded employees in this building. >> he had to pause before he answered that question. >> there was concern for viewers, concern for sports guys, tiger's not in the tournament because of his injury. phil mickelson missed the cut. we haven't seen the two big stars out of the masters in 22 years. not having that, people thought will be worth watching? yesterday proved there's plenty of must see tv left, good storylines. you got 20-year-old golf phenom jordan spieth against bubba watson, they're going shot for shot and jordan spieth is just 20 and playing in his very first master answer he's been sensational so far, super, super clutch with his putter. last year as a teenager, he won the john deere classic. he's already made the presidents' cup team and projected to be one of the best
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golfers on the planet and now just 18 holes from golf mystery. win today would make him the youngest masters champion ever. but obvious he will he's going to have to outplay bubba watson. do not sleep on the former masters champion. he's been solid so far in 2014 and the last three months he's won a tournament and finished in the top ten three different times. >> today was a day to stay patient and try and get myself a later tee time, even than today, and that goal was accomplished and tomorrow is about seeing how how i can control my game and emotions out on the golf course against guys that have even won here recently. >> we joked about it on the range today when they were going to the tee, they said "we'll see you in the last group on sunday." i was like you better play good. but obviously i should have played a little bit better. no, it's fun, to be good. he's a great player obviously, a guy like that, obviously has no
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fear, and he's just, his game is going to get better and better. >> he says they're friends, the two of them are friends off the course, they play golf together but today obviously all bets are off. here is the leaderboard. 18 holes left. not only is jordan spieth playing in his first masters, so is joe manas blixt. two of the four leaders playing in their first masters ever. jordan spieth the youngest. freddie couples would be the oldest masters champion if he won today. there is drama and intrigue minus tiger and phil. >> thank you, joe, so much. we'll see you 8:00 eastern for more "new day." a special edition of "sanjay gupta m.d." reporting from africa. >> he heard about the ebow ma outbreak and n guinea and decided to go there. we'll see you at 8:00.
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hey there, thanks for joining us in the united states and around the world. i'm coming to you from the capital of guinea on the west coast of africa, here to report on the outbreak of ebola, a deadly disease that started in this country. no doubt it's a scary disease but facts matter and that's what we'll give you firsthand. in this outbreak a little less than 200 confirmed cases. the whchlt h.o. and cdc are trying to understand why has this virus traveled further than ever before and why is it still spreading?
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the first came from the districts in the heavy forest in the southern part of the country. march 23rd, the government and world health organization announced 49 cases. 29 people are dead. doctors without pour ders and the w.h.o. sent teams in to help control the outbreak. just three days later, the number of cases jumps to 86 and by now, 62 deaths. isolations units are set up to control the spread. >> the virus is not transmitted to health workers and the families, this involves putting isolation wards and facilities. >> reporter: scared of what's lurking if their hometowns, some of the people start to make the journey to conackery. they may not be sick yet but they come here anyway. some of the people walking around could be carrying the virus not even knowing it.
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march 27th we learn ebola has reached conakry, the first case in the densely populated city of nearly 2 million. no one really knows just how many people are already infected because it takes three weeks for it to appear. i'll be on the ground the next few days to isolation areas where people are right now being cared for. we're going to talk with disease detectives and virus hunters investigating it and going to show you what's being done to keep people safe and to keep you safe as well at home. none of this is easy and it's a particularly steep challenge because this disease is uniquely alarming to a lot of people. this is what ebola looks like, the virus, first recognized in 1976, although it likely sat hidden in the jungle infecting animals long before that. the first outbreaks were on the banks of the ebola river in zaire, now the democratic republic of congo and also in
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sudan. hundreds died. the death rate up to 90%. the next wave of outbreaks were not until the 1990s in gabon and ivory coast. "the hot zone" laid it out in great detail how scary ebola can be, victims bleeding, a source that is mysterious, and then hollywood joined in. >> your town is being quarn to an end. >> reporter: the movie "outbreak was" was inspired by ebola. the town is quarn to an end to save quarantined. >> 24 hours, 36 hours, 48 hours. >> reporter: scary? yes. accurate depiction, not exactly, says this cdc disease detective. >> it's only in the african setting in the resource-poor rural areas of africa and where there's very little water or soap or hygiene practices and the clinics and hospitals often there's a lack of gloves, gowns
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and masks. only in that setting that you really see efficient transmission of this virus. >> the reason people are so alarmed about this particular outbreak, it's because it's never been spread so widely before. it's usually just confined to remote areas. but now it's within a stone's throw of an international airport. we had to dig deep understand what makes this ebola virus tick. they think it comes from the forested areas like these ones, pathogens living inside of animals that somehow get into humans. it's scary because ebola a swift, efficient and bloody killer. nine out of ten people who become infect ed actually die from this. it is take between two and 21 days, that's called the incubation period. during the time they can travel around the country or even between countries. that's the concern.
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here's a little bit of good news, you're probably not congaugious, you're not going to spread the virus to other people until you're sick yourself. that's when the virus is in your bodily fluids and you'll be able to spread it. when you're sick, you're down, unlikely to be moving around, unlikely to get on a plane. after you've recovered, in some cases you can still transmit the disease for a period of time after that for up to six weeks. the symptoms can often start off looking like the flu, you get a headache, people have fever, they start to feel unwell, tired, but then after that, it's unpretty. people develop significant diarrhea, may start to vomit but what really is a hallmark of this is that it becomes bloody. the body starts to be unable to clot and as a result you see bleeding on the outside but it's a bleeding on the inside that's the most concerning and it can often cause death. it's a difficult thing to test for and that's part of the problem, in the beginning of
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outbreaks like this, nobody knows what's happening, and that's when people become careless, when health care workers start to get infected and how something like this starts to spread. here's a very important number. 42. 42 days, that's two incubation periods. if you get to 42 days with no new cases, that's when people will say okay this outbreak is over. they got to scour the entire country, the surrounding areas, and make sure there are no new cases, and then it's time to pack it up. still ahead, i'm going to show you how my crew and i stay safe reporting on a story like this one. we'll give you an exclusive look inside what we call our go bag. up next a live report from perth, australia, we have the latest on the search for missing ma lash airlines flight 370. stay with us. , i remember, you know, picking him up and holding him against me. it wasn't just about me anymore. i had to quit. [ male announcer ] along with support, chantix (varenicline) is proven to help people quit smoking.
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the search for malaysian airlines flight 370 now hits the five-week mark this weekend. as a surgeon it can be physically draining to keep your focus for abextended period of time. i was curious what toll it was taking on the search crews as well. cnn's matthew chance is live in perth, australia, to try and answer that question. matthew? >> reporter: sanjay, thanks. it's one of the most intensive search operations that we've seen. remember, the flight crews that are scouring the indian ocean for any sign of debris or any sign of the missing malaysian
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airliner they have to flew the trips of 11 hours to get to the remote region of the ocean, have a look around and get back again. when you add that up, that pace, on a day-to-day basis, over that period of more than five weeks now, the problem of search fatigue can become a real issue. earlier, i went on one mission with the new zealand air force to see how they're tackling the problem. in the skies over the indian ocean, search teams scoured the surface for any sign of flight 370. but after more than five weeks into this gruelling mission, a thousand miles from land, not a piece of debris has been found. and this painstaking work is taking its toll. >> let me ask you, we've been looking for this plane since march 8th. you've been a significant part of that, search teams like you.
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are you frustrated that nothing has been found? >> i wouldn't say frustrated. we are disappointed that none of the aircraft have found anything but missions of this nature from experience take time. >> reporter: on board, this orion p-3 aircraft there's advanced radar and optical equipment to monitor the ocean below but search teams say their greatest asset is the human eye. to avoid fatigue, crew members are switched out from the 11-hour flights every other day, in the search zone they scan the water in 30-minute shifts to maintain concentration. have you spotted anything on this shift? >> no, no, unfortunately not. just going to carry on though so next shift will be in half an hour so we'll see how it goes. >> reporter: after so many weary hours of searching, fatigue has yet to dampen hopes of finding
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flight 370. sanjay, normally new zealand air force says it doesn't like its crews spending more than 150 hours a month in the air but these have been exceptional circumstances. one crew member we spoke to said he personally spends more than 202 hours in the air over the course of the past month. sanjay? >> one of the questions i think they don't like to talk about their mood i know but in terms of their effectiveness, when you're doing this day after day, are they as effective as trying to find this plane as they were a couple of weeks ago, do you think? >> i think they have hey to move had to move to a phase where they can work less often. at one point during the beginning of the search operation they were working three days on, taking one day off. talking about three intensive, long flights in a row, and then
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just getting one rest day. now they're going to alternative days which is much more sustainable and so yes, the mood is an issue. they say it's not about mood but obviously fatigue can affect mood so the new zealand air force is trying to work hard to prevent fatigue to keep spirits up. at the moment they're positive the air force wants it to stay that way. >> matthew, thank you. i should point out matthew in perth, australia. we're reporting to you from guinea, africa. we have much more in this half hour and also up next, a fellow world traveler, we'll have him on the program, anthony bourdain, my pal will give me a sneak peek at season three of "parts unknown" that's next. afghanistan, in 2009. orbiting the moon in 1971. [ male announcer ] once it's earned, usaa auto insurance is often handed down from generation to generation.
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live in conakry, guinea, with an ebola outbreak. friend of mine traveled to many of these places is anthony bourdain. he hasn't been here to guinea, west africa, but parts of his season three he has europe, asia and the americas covered. we styed to give you a sneak peek at the season premiere of punjab, india. >> reporter: there are countless dhabas to choose from in this town but this one is legendary. see tony eat vegetables. and like it. you eat around this part of the world, punjab in particular, get used to eating a lot of
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vegetarian. chickpeas. and india is one of the few places on earth where even for me, that's not a burden. ooh, what's that? oh, i'll take that, right here, my good man. mmm. that's good sod. in the punjab, meat or no meet you're almost guaranteed a free-for-all of intense colors, flavors and spices. >> anthony bourdain joins us now. welcome to the program. i'm a huge fan of yours. i love the program. this year sounds like it's going to be another terrific year, india, mexico, russia, thailand, brazil, some of the countries i heard. it's a fascinating job. i'm jealous at times to see those places that you go. how do you pick? >> i literally sit around looking at a map with micahment rah people and we talk about where is interesting, where can we go and that we've been before, and tell a story in a new way or where can we go that we've never been before?
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how can we look at places we think we >> also sometimes as simple as what would be fascinating and fun for us. if i'm not having fun, i see no reason for anyone else to have fun. >> are there certain foods when you go into these places? you have such a variety of things. you go to a place like vietnam. how do you select what you want to share with the viewer? >> the thing we're always looking for first when we visit a place, we'll ask locals, what's the food you're proudest of, the food that, if you were away from home for a few months, that you would miss most very row shows ly, the most typical, be loved thing that expresses your personality, your personal history, your past? >> when you're in full shooting mode, what is your travel schedule like?
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huchb are you traveling? >> generally speaking for about the last decade or so, i've been traveling about six to nine months out of the year, generally about three weeks of travel per month, around. >> i'm sure you have routines. i travel a lot. not as much as you do. you develop routines for on the road. in terms of your own health, starting off with staying fit, do you exercise on the road? how do you find it in all these different places? >> i try to pace myself. a real rule of thumb that we all follow on the crew is, if the local people are eating it, and a lot of them are eeth it. if it's a street stall, it doesn't look particularly hygienic, but packed with people, all enthusiastically eating something unidentifiable. we will eat it with gusto and chances are there will be no payback. we find out over many more years of experience, you're more
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likely to get more ill at the tourist friendly restaurant that tries to be everything to everybody, you can have the local specialty, but also nachos, that's going to be a problem. i try not to -- if the locals aren't drinking the water, i'm not drinking the water. i'm not having a caesar salad in a roaring sun in the intear yeah of ghana. paella is probably a bad idea in a culture that doesn't have a history or understanding it. i eat local. if the place is busy. few of these little mom and pop food stalls, they're not in business poisoning their neighbors. we go places that are busy, that are loved by locals and, chances are, it will be a positive experience. >> it's funny, anthony. being indian, guy to indian a fair amount. eating the chot on the streets of mumbai, usually people think
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i'm crazy. it's street vendors. it's so tasty. they need to have the business keep coming back. do you take anything ahead of time, vaccines i guess, just the routine ones i imagine. anything else in terms of your stomach, things you do to protect yourself? >> diarrhea is going to be something that will -- extra time in the bathroom will happen. other than the -- something to moderate that, we bring powerful antibiotics or cipro or something like that if someone does get really badly poisoned, but it almost never happens. india being an example of a place where i've been many 250i78s. we just filmed in punjab. the food is excellent. the hygiene is something that probably mom would be dismayed by, i've never been ill in india and i've always eaten well. that's a place i never have any worries. >> you're talking about the deli
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belly, which some people will know what i'm talking about. anthony bourdain, i'm a big fan and love having you here and will continue to watch. thank you. >> thanks. it was fun. you can catch the season premier of "parts unknown," 9 sclok eastern on cnn. on this special edition of sgmd, i'll show you how our crew stays safe. we have a quiz. we disease has a higher death read that's bowl la, yellow fever, tuberculosis, rabies or h5n1 bird flu? we have the answer when we come back. why's that? uh, mark?
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as promised now, the answer to the quiz we gave you before the break. believe it or not, rabies has a higher death rate that ebola. with rabies, only one person has known to survive after showing symptoms. still no doubt ebola is serious business. since telling people i was headed here, we have a lot of questions oobt what we do to protect ourselves. what you're looking at here is a go bag. it's what we journalist carry whenever we cover a risky situation, whether it be a combat zone or natural disaster or infectious disease outbreak. one of the mandatory things we'll always have, some sort of first aid kit. after that it becomes a little more specific. for example, here in guinea one of the concerns is malaria,
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typhoid fever. we make sure we have deet and also medications for malaria that we start taking a few days before we cover the story. we my may find ourselves outside staying in a tent, we have a mosquito net to protect us that way. when it comes to ebola, we know it's not airborne, but does spread through bodily fluids. we know the person spreading it is typically very sick before they become contagious. if we're in the vicinity of people who are already sick, we take special precautions. besides a mask, for example, we'll have glovts to cover our hands, a suit to cover up all our skin, even goggles to protect our eyes. we'll wash our hands before and after. these are simple steps, but they can make a huge difference. the key is to do your homework, to make sure you're not taking any unnecessary chances and to make sure you have a go bag like this to stay prepared. one thing that's worth pointing out is these infectious disease outbreaks keep happening as humans keep going further and further into animals'
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territories. somebody said to me it's not so much ebola entered our world as we entered its world. you can follow us on twitter @drsanjaygupta. right now, stay with cnn, right now, stay with cnn, the most trusted name in news. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com you made it to sunday. it's a beautiful one. i'm christi paul. >> i'm victor blackwell. this is "new day sunday." the breaking news this morning out of ukraine. ukraine's interior minister's facebook account says one pro russia activist has been killed in the eastern ukraine city of sloviansing. local media reporting pro russian demonstrators have
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seized the city hall. look at this. watch what happens to the man in the blue jacket here. they've been taking over government buildings and police stations in eastern ukraine. >> it's amazing to see his reaction, how he stands there. >> freezes. >> key aef is calling this an act of aggression by russia. that's a phrase there that they said verbatim. they're accusing moscow of helping them as well. now our crews on the ground aren't seeing signs of violence. we're still working ong getting more information from our local sources there. we'll go to our reporter on the ground live in just a moment. first let's catch up with the search for missing malaysian airlines flight 370. now five days since search crews last depekted what may have been a ping from the airliner, from the black boxes. a lot of people fear the batteries on the beacons, the pichkers we've been talking about, that those might now be
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dead. >> we know today the search area has expanded yet again by 39% to more than 22,000 square miles. remember yesterday it had shrunk to 16,000 square miles which was the smallest area thus far. >> today 12 planes, 14 ships are scouring the southern indian ocean in a dire attempt to find any sign of flight 370. >> let's talk with cnn aviation analyst jeff weiss. >> joined by david soucie and will ripley live in perth. let's go to will first. what are you hearing about the reason why this search area has been expanded? >> all along we've been told this is a continual process of refining the search area, looking at the data, looking at the crepts and trying to figure out where this debris field from the suspected point of impact, where this might have drifted to. every day we've seen the search area evolve. we've seen it getting fall her
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for most of this week. now today a larger search area, 6,000 square miles larger or so. i wouldn't necessarily say this is looked at as a setback. they continue to look at the information and this is ton collusion they've come to and is why they're searching this area. >> so jeff wise, how confident are you that they'll find the wreckage with everything that keeps changing, information we get one day and it's changed the next day and all the modifications? do you get a sense they really have a handle on what they're doing? >> well, it doesn't really inspire confidence. they've gone ahead and reversed course and made the search area big again. that implies a certain lack of confidence on their part as to where exactly this debris should be if, in fact, the pings that have been located last week are, in fact, correlated to mh370. five days without a ping. you start to wonder at what point they throw in the towel and start scanning the seabed with sidescan sew far.
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>> you think it's time to do that? >> unless they have some other information that we're not aware of -- it seems like if they really did think this was the plane that they would try to go down and locate it. that's what we all want to have happen. >> michael kaye, we've been talking about why they haven't sent down this bluefin 21, this drone that can go down and search for that. what's the possibility that they've done that and we're waiting to hear from air chief marble houston? do you think he would have come out and say the next announcement would be what we found or have not found by using the bluefin? >> this is an iterative process. i think will made a very good point in the way that the information that we have is very dynamic. the analysts are constantly going over every shred of evidence. sometimes when you follow the evidence, it leads you down a dead-end and you have to go down another route.
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i think air chief martial houston, to his absolute credit has been transparent throughout. i think we should invest the utmost confidence in him for the way his communication strategy will play out in future. we are in a transition period at the moment. we know the batteries of the pings last between 30 and 40 days. 30 at the minute, 40 at the maximum. as i said last night with don lemon, if i was air chief marshal houston, i would want to make absolutely sure i could go to bed at night knowing i had done my utmost to search for the pings. at the 41 day stage, 42, houston will have to make the decision to put the auvs in the water. once he does that the ping locaters can't work in unison. he's committed to what could be a search that takes years. >> david soucie, we got a question from bill on twitter. he asks why don't they put a gps
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pinger locater in the black box that could be used by a bluefin to hone in on the mek kaj? >> actually that's a really good question. the reason it's so good is i just was talking with sunny, i think it was yesterday. sorry about that. she had come across a patent on an ejectable box that i guess the military has been using for a lot of years. what it does is ejects out from the aircraft upon impact or after it gets to a certain pressure of water and ejects out a locater beacon. that locater beacon goes up to the surface. from there it transmits on emergency locater frequency of 406 megahertz which is monitored by satellites constantly. within a few moments they could have a triangulation on the location of that aircraft. there's a lot of technologies out there, quite a few including -- i'm so impressed with what inmar sat came up with in being able to locate the arc.
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michael kaye and i have been talking about that. he brought up the fact that that it could be used in future to track them without any upgrades to the airplanes themselves. >> we know 26 countries are assisting in the search and the investigation. you pointed out that is the most most expensive search of its kind and becoming more expensive as the days go on. when you look at the numbers of resources. 11 planes searching for the debris. you've got 26 countries. do you think that -- well, 12 now. one with the civil aircraft that's been added. do you think there's enough resources in this area that's now expanded search area for debris? >> remember, we've been looking all up and down this southern arc, this vast area. it's five weeks now. nothing has turned up. i think the question eventually is going to become how long do you commit these kinds of
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resources to a search that doesn't really seem to be panning out? are we looking in the wrong place? is the plane even in this hemisphere? it's hard to know what the appropriate amount of resources to deploy is because we don't really know what the problem is that we're trying to address. >> and with that said, let me show this -- send this out to you, michael. how long do you think these other countries are going to devote their resources? >> well, i think the key thing here is to try to corroborate the area we're working in, the search area, with other evidence. i've always been a pro point of going back and trying to understand what happened to mh370 after the last transponder ping? we know about its supposed route across the malaysian route and then it headed south at some point. going back to jeff's point, there's an inaccuracy in the search area.
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we have the inmar sat data that's based on two key assumptions of what speed the aircraft flew at and what height the aircraft flew out. that will then give your the distance down the arc or give you the fuel burn and the endure rans and distance down the arc, the southern arc of where we should be looking. a key piece of that information is what did the aircraft do between turning south and the last transponder ping. i think there's a lot of vague information that we need to know so we can hone in on that search area because it may be different. that's what i would be during, looking to corroborate where we are and continually look at the evidence. >> 37 now, jeff wise, michael kay, david soucie, will ripley from perth. breaking news in ukraine, tensions similar herring as masked gunmen take over police stations and government buildings in the eastern part of
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screen, the guy going in the window. meanwhile, ukraine is sending in troops to tackle the situation. we've got senior international correspondent nick paton walsh on the phone with us. we're hearing reports that separatist protesters have taken over the office in maripol. >> reporter: we're seeing a circle being formed around the city of donetsk, seemingly having similar protests. we can't confirm what's happening in maripol. another development to add to the list of towns where these similar disturbances have happened. going back to slavyansk, we've just come out of there for about
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an hour and seen very little evidence of an anti-terror operation as the one announced by the ukrainian inpeer your minister. he refers to how ukrainian forces are regrouping after one was killed and five injured in tan ti terror operations. there's no impact of that on the streets inside slavyansk. the barricades have been reinforced. the same around the police station, too. people are going about their business as per normal. a lot of locals joining the protests, too. no sign of the kind of panic you might expect if there had been intense gun battles on the streets. no one heeding the warnings to stay away from windows and inside their apartments. i don't speak for the entire community, but there is local support for what's happening there. we just passed through where the gunfire was. pro russian activists and mill
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thants control the police station. barricades outside of it and in the central care, people protesting outside the bank government building which seems to be in the hands of protesters. >> nick paton walsh, we appreciate it so much. thank you for the update. meanwhile vice president biden is going to travel to kiev next sunday, april 22nd, to meet with ukrainian leaders. the white house said the vice president will underscore the united states' support for the united, democratic ukraine. 500 homes have been destroyed near santiago. the blaze is being fueled by strong winds. 3,000 people have been evacuated and authorities do plan to move 2,000 inmates out of a jail to avoid the fast-moving flames. the standoff between the feds and ranch supported by
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even among the opposition, people who despise putin, the notion of annexing ukraine is pretty popular. you're not going to see a lot of resistance to that idea within russia. >> i know you're visiting two u.s. cities. vegas is one of them. >> vegas i think we're looking at the winners and losers in vegas. on one hand, the spectacular life you could live if you're a whale gambler, somebody who they fly in, who account counted on to lose millions on a weekend, but also the people who run vegas, born and bred and live there. and year after year after year have to see human behavior at its really very worst. they see things in vegas, the people who wipe off your table, deliver your food, clean your room, drive you around, these people have really seen a lot. i was very interested in what it's like to live in a place where visitors are really
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encouraged to behave as badly as they possibly can. >> i know you're kicking off the season in india. was there anything that you ate there that you would love to bring home and have available to you on a regular basis that was different than anything we know in america? >> i think the most striking thing i found -- i'm a committed carnivore, but i could happily eat vegetarian in punjab for quite some time. >> what specifically? >> a lot of curry. the flat breads are insanely delicio delicious. the thing that sticks out about india above and beyond the fantastic food, the colors are just eye-poppingly gorgeous. it's a cinematographer's dream. everywhere you point a camera, everywhere you look, there's something really, really
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beautiful happening. >> do you always know what you're going to eat or is there ever a situation where you go in blind and you say, i don't know what this is, but i'm just going to try it. >> particularly when i'm eating in homes and farms, often i don't know what they're showing up with. i've come to dread the words, oh, mr. bourdain, we have something very special for you. often this is supposed to make me within the culture more manly or stronger and often i found there are like reptile parts or bile or something still wriggling in it. >> sounds good. you don't want to miss it, right? the new season of "parts unknown" begins tonight 9:00 eastern and pacific only on cnn. shoot! this is bad. no! we're good! this is your first time missing a payment. and you've got the it card, so we won't hike up your apr for paying late. that's great! it is great!
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if you're just waking up, welcome to your sunday. make sure to stay with cnn. "state of the union with candy crowley" is coming up. >> we want to bring her in. candy, what's coming up? >> one of the things we want to talk about is the 2014 midterms. congress is moving along, not very fast as usual. we'll talk to greg walden, the republican in charge of electing more republicans to the house and steve israel who wants to elect more democrats. looks like the uphill climb is for the democrats and what you'll see over the next several months until that november election is the politics of how each party wants to frame themselves going into the midterms. we'll talk a little bit about that and about some of the things that have been said this week, as you know, eric holder, the attorney general talks about racism and how he was treated on capitol hill.
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