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ocean shield detected an oil slick yesterday evening in her current search area. >> a new lead in the search for missing malaysian air flight 370. it could take days of testing to know whether or not this oil is connected to the ill-fated flight. we will get the latest on where the oil slick was found.
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and u.n. ambassadors for russia and ukraine squared off during a session of the u.n. security council. meanwhile, it is now past the deadline for pro russian separatists to stand down or face military action. plus, oscar pistorius will resume his testimony this hour in the trial of the shooting death of his girlfriend, reeva steenkamp. we will bring you the live coverage. hello and welcome to our viewers in the united states and all around the world. this is cnn newsroom. thanks for being with us. the search for flight 370 is taking a new turn. angus houston, the man heading up the search from australia, announced a change from the surface to under the water. he says searchers will stop using the system that listens for pings from the black boxes
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and instead began using the so call bluefin 21. the submersible sonar system. he also said crews located an oil slick in the search area. they took samples and will be analyzing them in the coming days to figure out whether that oil has anything to do with flight 370. in the meantime, the two dozen ships and aircraft are scouring more than 47,000 square kilometers. so let's bring in our michael holmes who is live in perth with details on day 38 of the search. so michael, what can you tell us? apart from this news conference and of course these critical points here. we learn about this search going on underwater and we learned about this oil slick. >> reporter: yeah. a couple of headlines. more than two in this news conference by angus houston, the retired air chief marshal
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heading up this search. the main one is that they've decided they're not going to hear any more pings from this flight data recorders. and they're going to have to deal with the search area they've narrowed down to now. they were hoping against hope they would get more pings which would help them narrow it down even further. the area they're dealing with is about 1,300 square kilometers. later today they are going on pull up that ping locator and lower the bluefin submersible. it is a 24-hour operation to do one sweep of about 40 square kilometers. two hours down, 16 hours going along at a walking pace, mapping the bottom using the side scan sonar and taking 3d photographs of the ocean floor. two hours back up, four hours to download all the information and replace the batteries. you mentioned that oil slick. angus houston, a man not given to hyperbole, urged caution. it was in the general search area but it has to be analyzed.
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have a listen. >> ocean shield detected an oil slick yesterday this evening in her current search area. a sample of about two liters has been collected and it will be a number of days before it can be handed ashore and conclusively tested. i stress the source of the oil is yet to be determined but the oil slick is approximately 5,500 meters downwind and down sea from the vicinity of the de texts picked up by the pinger locator on ocean shield. >> and another headline out of that briefing today. rosemary, the air and surface search for a floating debris will end, said angus houston, in the next two or three days. as he put it, he said the chances of their being any floating debris has been greatly diminished. they've been searching about 300
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or 400 miles west of where they've been using the locator. they thought that's where any floating debris would have gone on the tides and the storms and the ocean current. they've decided they're not going to find any now. they're going to focus on this bluefin submersible. and angus houston said they are hopeful they might find something but they might not find anything. >> that was an interesting point. it seems to mark this lowering of expectations. of course, it was the politicians that have raised the expectations. but angus houston is trying to put this all in perspective, isn't he? >> yeah. i think you did their australian pramt saying that he was greatly confident the pings were from the black boxes. angus houston that he was optimistic. his concern that the wreckage would be found on the ocean floor. that could still happen but angus houston is a man that
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isn't given to raising false hopes. he said it is the next best option but it will be a long and tedious process. as i say, to search that for one day, i mean, if people have been to manhattan, for example, imagine looking for a laptop that might be buried. we're talking about these black boxes. imagine looking for a laptop that maybe built in silt in the dark over the whole area of manhattan. that's just one pass. they've got their job cut out for them. i suppose their biggest hope is that they might find a large piece of wreckage. that will give them something they can work with. the ocean shield does have the assistance of hms echo. it has a two kilometer wide scanning ability. looking for anything hard on the ocean floor that could prove to be wreckage. >> the magnitude of this search operation is just extraordinary. hard to grasp statements. making holmes reporting there live from perth, australia. just after 3:00 in the afternoon
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there. many thanks to you. the ukrainian government dead lane for pro russia separatists to lay down their arms has now passed but there is no sign the separatists have agreed to end their occupation of state buildings and eastern ukraine. russia called the session of the u.n. security council. but western countries squarely blame the crisis on moscow. ukraine's new government said it would not let what happened in crimea last month also occur in eastern ukraine. the accusation certainly flaw at sunday night's emergency u.n. session. cnn's richard roth takes a look. >> reporter: the hastily called sunday evening meeting produced the same outcome as the ten other sessions on ukraine. no progress. there were verbal duels the familiar argument buzz hanging over this session was the announcement that.
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the protesters interests have not been borne in mind in talking about them. as a result of this, there has already been bloodshed, and the situation is very dangerous. a further escalation of this must be swiftly stopped. >> once again, russia was outnumbered at the table but does lack veto power. western countries led bit unts said russia is using propaganda and intimidation on ukraine. >> we know who is behind this. indeed, the only entity capable of this is russia. >> russia wanted it behind closed doors. by having it on camera, it allowed ukraine to make its
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case. >> this situation of confrontation was artificially created with the aim to weaken and destroy ukraine itself. >> the next round for diplomacy is scheduled for thursday in geneva, including secretary of state john kerry. but there's a long time between now in new york and thursday in geneva. i want to bring that live shot. let me describe what's happening here. it's coming from ukraine. this barricade is in front of a police station. and they're congregated in front of it. they want to breakaway from ukraine and become part of russia. many western nations are suggesting that it's moscow, it's russia that's fomenting this, and it's not actually ukrainians.
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we don't know at this point the exact, precise elements to that part of the story, but all we can do is show you this live picture. this is what's playing out across a number of eastern ukrainian cities. so essentially, we've got people taking over some buildings across eastern ukraine, and this stalemate, a critical dead lean has passed at this point. ukraine has threatened to use military action if these pro russian separatists do not lay down their arms and move away from these buildings. so let's go to our diana magnay who joins us with details on this meeting that we've been telling you about where the u.n. security council met and russia, diana was very much outnumbered, wasn't it? >> reporter: yes, russia was the one who called for this meeting after the ukrainian president
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announce thad he would bring in the military if they did not lay down their weapons. as richard roth was saying there was no outcome on either side. we've seen russia being accused of orchestrating affairs and russia accusing the west of doing the same. so diplomatically, we don't seem to be getting anywhere. there is another meeting in geneva on thursday scheduled, but certainly lavrov and the russian ambassador to the u.n. both said that those talks could be derailed if force was used by the ukrainian authorities against the people in the southeast. so diplomatically, that is the situation, an impasse on the ground now. we wait to see whether the
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ukrainian authorities make good on that threat to send in the army. so far, and the deadline passed about an hour ago. nothing seems to have happened. but these pro russian separatists have not taken down their barricades or moved themselves out of these government buildings that they've occupied. and let's be very straight about it. what we saw in crimea does seem to be replaying itself. you see these same uniforms without any sort of insignia. you semen who seem to be very well organized in attacks around this region wearing the georgian ribbon which we saw in crimea, all of which lends some credibility, at least, to the west's continual accusation that this is russia behind the events on the ground. rosemary? >> it is worrying, indeed. diana magnay reporting there from moscow, many thanks to you. and of course we will have more
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analysis on ukraine later in the program. the oscar pistorius trial is scheduled to begin in less than half an hour from now. the south african will return to the witness stand for a sixth day. he is accused of premeditated murder in the death of his girlfriend reeva steencamp last year. the sister of the victim is speaking out in an exclusive interview with a newspaper. she says her family has no doubt that pistorius is lying about his relationship with her sister. she says he is trying to convince the court that they were really close and that he cared for her. it's not true. he's a disgusting liar. she also describes seeing pistorius in court for the first
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time, saying my heart stopped as he walked past, ignoring us. i like to think his heart stopped too. he knew we were there, but he almost lost his balance and fell over when he saw us, end of quote there. well, court is expected to start in about 15 minutes from now. so do stay with cnn. we'll go live to the courtroom once proceedings get under way. just ahead on cnn newsroom, the man suspected in a deadly shooting in the united states heads to court today. and we will look at why some say it's a hate crime. and as the crisis in ukraine appears to worsen, russia faces off with the west in the u.n. and we look at where things are and where they're going.
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welcome back.
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well, in the united states, the suspected shooter at two jewish facilities is a white supremacist with a long history of anti-semitism. they say he is expected to appear in court later today to face charges of pre-meditated first degree murder. nick valencia reports. >> reporter: three people are dead after shots were fired at two jewish facilities just south of kansas city. >> there's no other words to describe it, just panic. >> reporter: police say a man in his 70s is in custody. kmbc captured this video of the scene and a man shouting from the car. >> we are sifting through for accuracy, and we're looking at them for their evidentiary value. it's too early to tell you what he may or may not have said, but we're trying to determine ha that was at this time. >> reporter: at a press conference, police said they were investigating the incident as a possible hate crime. they're not ruling anything out.
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in an interview with cnn, a rabbi said the alleged shooter was clear about who he wanted to shoot. >> caller: he's apparently an older gentleman and was asking people before they were shot if they were jewish or not. >> reporter: the shootings happened at about 1:00 local time on the eve of passover. police said there were many children inside the facility at the time, but the shootings took place outside. no motive has been released. the fbi is also investigating. nick valencia, cnn, atlanta. the world is wondering what's going to happen next in ukraine. a ukrainian deadline for separatists to lay down their arms has now passed. and there's no sign that think will end their occupation of state buildings in ukraine.
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a number of nations blamed russia for the unrest in eastern ukraine while russia blamed the new ukrainian government. joining me now from london is analyst ian bond. he is with the center for reform. the critical thing here is that this deadline has passed. the ukraine government has threatened to use military force if these pro russian separatists don't lay down their arms and don't leave these state buildings. they haven't done that. at this point, we haven't heard of any military action. but in fact, the new government there in kiev doesn't have any choice. it's going to have to move forward on that threat, isn't it? >> yes, it is. and i think we should stop calling these people pro russian separatists. it's pretty clear looking at the equipment, the uniforms, the
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military tactics that these are really russian forces, and if there's any doubt, there is now youtube footage that's been unearthed from last year from a russian television program that shows exactly these type of special forces being prepared for action overseas. >> so do you think that given that what we're going to see is pretty much the same thing occur in eastern ukraine as we saw in crimea? >> well, the difference is that i think it will be much harder for the russians to press forward without meeting any resistance, at least in crimea, you could make the argument that a majority of the population was ethnic russian. there is no area in eastern ukraine where that is the case. in every case you have ethnic ukrainians in a majority, sometimes in a very large majority. >> so what do you think, what do you think putin's end game is here? >> well, i think what putin is
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hoping is that he can take a little bite out of ukraine here and there and that he can then stop and wait for the west to impose some rather weak sanctions. and then he can move forward again. and that seems to have been the patent so far. >> and the special u.n. security council meeting didn't really achieve very much, did it? france was saying it was disappointing, and really, nothing has changed. and for russia, surely at this point, it looks at that and goes, we can move forward and do as we choose at this point. >> well, i think you're exactly right, rosemary. that is exactly the problem. it was entirely predictable that the u.n. security council discussion wasn't going to get anywhere last night. it was a meeting which was called by the russians to be able to put their case that it's all the fault of the ukrainian government which very clearly isn't the case and the
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international community doesn't accept russia's version of events. so it was inevitable i think that that was going to be a meeting. more important is the meeting of foreign ministers where they will be discussing what actions to take. and if they were to follow the u.s. in imposing tougher sanctions on russia, then i think that might start to have at least a small effect on putin's calculations of what he can and can't do. >> we'll see what comes of it. ian bond, many thanks for joining us and sharing your perspective here on cnn. we appreciate it. and you're watching cnn newsroom, live from cnn center as the search continues for flight 370. the weather is cooperating today, at least, but there are some changes ahead. plus week six of the oscar pistorius trial is about to get under way. and we will be live in pretoria south africa. do stay with us.
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welcome back. well, it's not clear yet whether an oil slick found in the search area is related to the missing malaysian plane. crews gathered samples which will be tested in the coming days once they get to land. meanwhile, angus houston is down-playing the deployment of that blue fin device. he says it will be deployed as soon as possible to try to locate the jet but that its work will move very, very slowly. well, we're following the search at the international weather service. what is the outlook weather wise? >> it's looking pretty good. this time of year could be a lot worse as we enter into fall.
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we can often see tropical cyclones, which we saw jillian about two weeks ago. so things are pretty calm for now. but we do expect to see the waves getting a little bit larger the next 48 to 60 hours. we'll see an increase in the cloud cover. and it ought to be becoming more breezy, and of course that will increase the swells here on the ocean surface quite a bit. the winds will be picking up as we head in towards our wednesday. we would see them up towards 30 to 40 kilometers per hour. and here on the ocean's surface over the weekend, very, very calm. this is the hms perth. and you can see how calm the waters are compared to what they normally would be this time of year. and the unmanned submersible, the bluefin-21 has a lot of geography here to explore. you can see it's a sloping bottle of the ocean. it's more rolling hills and a
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lot of sediment here, too, rosemary. we heard earlier when angus houston said maybe 20 meters of sentiment, but it looks like it's even deeper as you head to the east here. it could be up around to some 50 to 250. much deeper there. >> another challenge, right? many thanks to you, samantha. we are waiting for court to resume in the oscar pistorias murder trial. after the break we will go live to the courthouse in pretoria, south africa. ...and let in the dog that woke the man who drove to the control room [ woman ] driverless mode engaged. find parking space. [ woman ] parking space found. [ male announcer ] ...that secured the data that directed the turbines that powered the farm that made the milk that went to the store that reminded the man to buy the milk that was poured by the girl who loved the cat. [ meows ] the internet of everything is changing everything.
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to our viewers in the u.s. and around the world, welcome back. we want to check the head lelin this hour. the head of the search for malaysian 370 says that the search for debris will soon end. he says samples of an oil slick are going to be tested once they get to land to see if it's from the plane. a deadline for pro russian demonstrators to lay down their arms has now passed. but there's no sign the armed protesters have ended their occupation of state buildings in
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the ukraine. a number of nations blamed russia for the unrest in ukraine while russia blamed the new ukrainian government. police are investigating whether a shooting ram page in the western u.s. is a hate crime. authorities say a man opened fire in the parking lot of a jewish community center and a retirement center, killing three people. we go to south africa now and the oscar pistorius trial is scheduled to resume at any moment now. after five days of grueling testimony last week, the olympian will be back on the witness stand. he is charged with the premeditated murder of reeva steencamp last year. he says he shot her accidently.
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well, as we wait for court to start, let's go to cnn legal analyst kelly phelps. and she joins us live from the courthouse in pretoria. let's look at what we can expect out of court proceedings today. >> reporter: well, we can certainly expect gerrie nel to continue with his aggressive strategy to try to trip oscar pistorius up. and essentially, what he's doing with the strategy is trying to set up a track record that impugns pistorius' credibility. the burden he needs to meet is very high. so he needs to set up a scenario with the only reasonable inference that the judge can draw. because with the whole track record with inconsistencies and
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omissions is that pistorius cannot be telling the truth. >> so when you look at what the prosecutor is trying to do, tell us how successful he has been so far. >> reporter: well, it's very difficult to tell at this stage, because of judge takes all of the evidence in the balance of the whole trial when she makes her determination. he certainly has managed to point out some key arias of improbability. so for example -- i believe kelly phelps there for a moment. court is now in session. let's listen in. i'm going further, mr. pistorius and saying that your version of events is in fact untrue. before we start, mr. pistorius, i say you've got a concocted versi version. you understand what i'm saying
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mr. pistorius? >> i do milady. >> then mr. pistorius, i've heard, and i wonder if you can confirm, that reeva was a very neat person. can you? >> milady, she was neat in some senses. her car was a mess, but her room was always very well-kept. >> and her clothes she would pack away, fold up. >> i never went into her cupboard, milady. >> do you think if one thinks of the scene, her clothes, undergarments and other clothes are all in the overnight bag, there's nothing that you could see on the photograph, am i right? >> i've rarely seen the photographs, milady. >> your voice is very soft.
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>> i beg your pardon, ma lady. from the photos i've seen, her clothes were very nicely packed in her bag, milady. everything was very neat. >> the only thing out of place, mr. pistorius is the pair of jeans. >> that's correct, milady. >> why would that be, do you know? >> i don't, milady. >> mr. pistorius, everything else, the undergarments, other clothes are all in the overnight bag. the only thing outside of that overnight bag is her jeans, and you don't have an idea why? >> i don't, milady. the only thing i can think of is that she wore the jeans that day and maybe the things in her overnight bag were clean clothes. i'm not sure. >> we're speculating, but there's nothing else but the
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jeans. no, no top? only the jeans, am i right? >> you can see her socks on the floor. >> those are also neatly next to each other, next to the bed on the left-hand side. >> there's two photos of the socks, ma lad >> there was a photo later in the morning, milady where reeva's overnight bags was on the floor and the socks have been moved. >> on the photograph, you see slops, as you call it, they are neatly on the side of the bed. >> they were between the bed and
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the sofa, milady. >>. >> you said that she slept there the previous night as well. >> i don't say that. >> did she not sleep there the night before? >> no. >> no. >> i said she slept at my house, but not on the left hand side of the bed, milady. >> where did she sleep? >> in my bed on the right hand, milady. >> but she stayed the night at your house the night before this incident, that we can accept. >> that's correct, milady. >> knowing that you sleep on the left, and she would sleep on the right. >> that's correct milady. >> why would her slops be on the left hand. >> i beg your pardon, milady.
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can urn repeat his previous question? >> she knew that she would be sleeping on the right hand and you on the left hand because that's what happened on the previous night. >> that's correct. >> why would the slops be on the left hand. >> it's far to the right of the room, and on the right-hand side, there's not much space. there's already items against, near the curtains between the bed, but on the other side, there's a sofa, and there's an otto man, and reeva always put her overnight things on the sofa there, so she'd always put those things down when she stayed over at my house on that sofa. >> what does it mean, she slept on the left. that was an exception. this was exception. so always cannot work. >> we're not talking about which side of the bed. we're talking about where she placed her things, any lady. mi.
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>> i don't think that's what the witness is saying. >> that's not what i'm saying, milady. >> there was a flashlight, flashlight. what happened here? did i imagine that there was a flashlight? let's proceed. >> please take us through it. usually when she would sleep there she would sleep on the left hand side. >> that's correct milady. >> on the night before and this night those were two exceptions because she slept on the left-hand side. >> i've been struggling with my shoulder, with my shoulder for a couple of weeks, and when i
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slept over at reeva's house i slept on the left-hand side of the bed as well, milady. >> now, mr. pistorius, she would use the slops for when she would get up from bed. >> i'm not sure. >> had you seen her use the sluffs? >> i had seen her use the sluffs before, milady. >> and when? >> when she'd walk around downstairs. i don't have any independent recollection of her using the sluffs, but i now she would use them when she was walking downstairs. the floors were probably cold. i don't remember her wearing the sluffs that day, but i'm sure she would have. >> mr. pistorius, isn't the
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reason that she wanted to leave and wanted to get dressed, that's why the denim is, the jeans are out of place? she wanted to leave and get dressed? >> milady, the denims are inside-out, so that would make sense that that's when she took them off, that she just left them on the floor. >> but why with she leave them on the floor if everything else she had on, everything was in the overnight bag? why would she leave that particular jeans outside? >> i don't know, milady. >> where were they when you got into bed? >> i don't remember, amilady. >> now i'm saying, and the state's case, mr. pistorius, that she wanted to leave and that you weren't sleeping. you were both awake. >> that's not correct, milady,
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that's untrue. >> and that there was an argument. >> that's not true, milady. >> do you have an explanation for the stomach content of the deceased? >> i don't, ma lady. >> that is, as far as your case is concerned, devastating for your version that eight hours after she's eaten, when she was killed, there was still that amount of food in her stomach. how do you explain it? because you have to. >> i don't know how to explain it, milady, the professor came and testified, and his evidence is not taken into account with what's being put to me now, milady. so i don't have an explanation for it, so i can't comment on
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it. >> i'm going to pressure for an explanation because the professor conceded that six hours, people would expect the stomach content to be clear, six hours after somebody's eaten. now we're talking eight. and i want to know from you why. >> i don't know, milady. >> i put it to you that she must have eaten within three hours of her death. >> i cannot comment on that, milady. we had dinner just after 7:00 that evening the night before. >> that, now have you, have you consulted with other experts? >> no, i haven't, milady. >> not at all?
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>> no, milady. >> now what as a further aspect, mr. pistorius is that someone heard a woman talk from about 2:00 that morning. you've heard her evidence? >> i have, ma lady. she did say that. >> it is possible that that person was eating. >> no, i didn't eat, milady. >> isn't it possible the gastric content is what we see in the postmortem -- >> ma lady, impossible is the wrong word. you would not expect that is the evidence. you won't expect it. not impossible. >> yes. >> i'll put it differently.
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all the references to works, miracle works and both experienced pathologists said that one would expect the stomach content to be empty after six hours. you've heard that mr. pistorius? >> i have, ma lady. >> now why in this particular instance, would that not be so? why would there still be food in the stomach? >> i'm not sure, milady. >> because you were awake. there can't be any explanation. >> milady, i don't think me being awake has anything to do with reeva's stomach contents. all i'm saying is we ate dinner just after 7:00. it's nothing to do with me being awake. the witness says she heard a woman talking. she doesn't say she heard a man and a woman talking, so i don't know milady. >> you're arguing the case.
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you're arguing what a witness said, and being argumentative, mr. pistorius is not good for credibility. would you agree with that? >> yes, milady. >> you're not doing yourself any favors. >> i was finishing my answer, i wasn't arguing a point. i'm sorry if that's the way it came across. >> later, the witness says i was sleeping, did you say i was sleeping, reeva could have eaten. >> it's a possibility, milady. i was sleeping. if that's evidence that was given, when we ate, we ate after 7:00. i don't know of any other time that reeva ate. >> do you know that the answer you just gave is impossible. it's impossible. you know that, isn't it?
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>> any lmilady, i can't comment >> your voice is i have soft again. >> i'm i have sorry, amy lady. if i wanted to change my evidence i wouldn't stick with saying we ate at 7:00. but that's when we ate, my lady. >> i put to you, you know that it's impossible for her to have eaten after you went to bed that night. on your version. am i right? >> i was sleeping, any lma lala.
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>> it's not impossible, improbable. >> i don't want to argue the point. >> i want to. >> if reeva switched off the alarm and went down to eat and came upstairs i don't now, milady. i was sleeping. we ate after 7:00, and that's the last time that i think -- >> mr. pistorius, this particular point i put to you is devastating for your version because it cannot, it's an objective set of facts, and it cannot fit into your version. what do you want to say to that? >> i don't see how reeva could have possibly eaten after 7:00. we're talking now about the possibilities. when i ate, we ate together, and we ate just after 7:00, and we ate about 20 minutes, half an
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hour, so i'm sure dinner would have been finished way before 8:00. i don't have an answer to the questions he's putting to me. >> then we'll get more of the instances where you cannot explain. now i want to deal with something that happened when i dealt with a fan. it's important to just put to you, let me rather ask, on your version of the events, let me put it the best way possible. of the first people that were upstairs, am i right?
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>> i don't remember who went upstairs first, milady. i remember, as i said one of the police officers ask the if there was anybody in the home. i remember him going upstairs. he was in civilian clothing. i remember mr. hilton going up twice. i don't remember who was upstairs at the same time, which police officers, which ones went into the room at the same time or if they were in different parts of the first floor. i'd be unable to say we went up first. he was one of the first officers that was there, but i don't have a, i'm not sure in which order he went up. >> but would it not be possible for you to deny this evidence that he went up first. you cannot deny that. that is evidence. >> i remember the civilian-dressed policeman going
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up the house first, milady. after he asked me, that's mr., i was crying at the time, i don't remember, it's possible that mr., the colonel went up first. what i saw was that the police officer in the civilian clothing went up first, milady. >> then let's just deal with the question, can you deny the evidence? can you deny the evidence that he went up first? >> i don't know. i can neither confirm nor deny, milady. >> i'm not asking if you can confirm. can you deny? is he lying? >> no, i cannot deny, milady. >> why must i repeat this question. don't you want him to be first? >> if i confirm his evidence, any l any milady.
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i can't confirm or deny. >> i'll show you in the record if you do, it's evidence that his focus was, he mentioned aspects that he focused on, but in an area of the fan and the position of the triangular fan. can you deny that? >> no, i cannot deny that, my lady. i wasn't there. >> he was asked where his focus was. and he said that his focus was on the fan in front of the door. you cannot deny that. >> i cannot deny that, milady. i don't now what the colonel's
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focus was. >> there was evidence further -- a photograph was shown, be milady, it's page 870 of the record. you don't have to page through that. if you don't mind, you're welcome to, but i don't think it's in the album, mr. pistorius. it may take just a moment.
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milady, i'll carry on with something until we find it. mr. pistorius, i have to put to you that at page 829 of the reco record, and i'll send a record across to you. at the, from guide line 22. the main bedroom, the main focus as we stopped there because we didn't know what we were going
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to find next. so we first stopped at the main bedroom. when i entered and observed what's happening in the main bedroom, what we saw in the main bedroom and then it carries on. at the bottom of 830, from line 20, the fan, what are you saying about the fan, the stainless steel one, the stainless steel, it was standing in front of the door. and then the curtains were -- do you see that, too? >> yes, i do, milady. >> now once you have that record with you, triple 888. >> van rensburg says he went up. he says the curtains were up,
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not the curtain. >> would you mind paging to 888? now it's cross examination from line four. what did you focus on there? what did you focus on there? as i previously indicated milady, when i entered there i noticed the watches, the box with the watches. that's the one thing that i noticed. the next thing that i noticed was the trousers lying in front and then the bloodstain that was laying there. the fan that was standing at the curtains that were open as well as the door. that was my focus. now my question to you. now let me just deal with photograph 856. now photograph 856 was shown to
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colonel van rensburg at 817, milady. and from about line 18, it's put to him, that would rapport with what you saw. you have been watching live coverage of the oscar pistorius trial. thanks for watching cnn newsroom. i'm rosemary church. early start is coming up for our viewers in the united states. and for viewers elsewhere. coverage of the pistorius trial continues. so that was our first task, was getting him to wellness. without angie's list, i don't know if we could have found all the services we needed for our riley. from contractors and doctors to dog sitters and landscapers,
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