important work for all of us. to find out how you can help the victims of the ebola outbreak, go to cnn.com/impact. i will be back at 5:00 p.m. eastern. newsroom starts right now. approximate. >> hi there. thanks so much for joining me. breaking news into cnn. new evidence that flight 370 had turned around and was traveling at a low altitude. this coming from the co-pilot's cell phone. it turns out it was on. a u.s. official with first-hand knowledge says malaysia knows this because the phone was searching for service after the jet lost contact. we will go live to the flight simulator, but first, today, a new and critical phase of the search, 39 days after the flight vanished and a week after the

last apparent encounter with pings. the man heading up the search accepted that the batteries are likely dead now and called in the underwater drone, the blue fin. >> the deployment of the underwater vehicle has the potential to take us a further step towards visual identification since it offers impossible opportunity to detect debris from the aircraft on the ocean floor. >> the blue fin uses sonar to map a section of the ocean floor never before explored. it takes two hours to get down there and 16 hours to scour just 15 square miles before heading back to the surface. and the absence of any plane debris? that means the visual searches are soon to be called off. this means an oil slick has been

spotted. now to see where it came from. the cell phone report adds this other layer of mystery of what happened and another clue but does it bring us any closer to the truth? we are inside the flight simulator. martin, bha do you make of this report? >> up until now we have had two real indicators of what the flight plan might have been for this particular airplane. one was the information that came from those handshakes once every hour. the other was from radar data that the malaysian government reported to us. now you have got a third level which is the cell phone. and apparently the cell phone seems to back up the radar information. in other words that the plane did turn off course. >> i'm sorry to interrupt you but we will go live to kansas city where a press conference is going on, the mother of the 14-year-old who was killed. here is her talking. >> we didn't want to hide and

not let people grieve with us. i went to a vigil last night impromptu because i heard that students from my son's school would be there. he loved school and his friends, so i wanted to be there. so what happened is he was going to the jewish community with my dad, who we called pop eye. he named my mom yay yay. reid is a freshman and you can try out for that program when you're in high school. this is his first time to get to try out. he has been practicing. he had two songs that he thought

he might get the chance to sing, too. the first one was on the street where you live from "my fair lady". he was dressed in a coat and tie and a black shirt and a hat. he was all ready. and then if they were going to give him a chance to sing again, he was going to sing you will miss me when i'm gone. i was lucky enough to get to hear both of those songs before he left the house. i waited for my dad to pick him up and make sure that everything was okay and i had him sing them one more time. and i got to kiss him and tell him i loved him. i left for a lacrosse game that got cancelled due to weather and i left the lacrosse game and headed to the jewish community center. i didn't have my phone but at the time i didn't need it. when i pulled into the parking lot, i saw that my dad's truck

was there and that the car doors were open and i wondered why my dad wasn't just standing there. as i pulled up, i saw that he was lying on the ground. my first thought was that he had had a heart attack because he was just lying there. very quickly i realized that it wasn't that and i knew that my dad was in heaven within seconds. and i ran around the truck and i saw my son lying there and there were already two people with him. there were two men whom i don't know and they were holding him and i did not get a good look at him. i saw that he seemed a little lifeless but i saw someone named nikki grabbed me and held me and pulled me away from the scene. as i went into the jewish community center, then i saw bullet holes in glass and it started to dawn on me what had

happened. i want to thank the jewish community center. it was very unreal and no one should have to go through that. itd was a crime scene and it didn't cover a crime scene. it didn't seem like a crime scene. there were two family members laying on the ground. i felt comfort. i paraded and paraded and paraded that reid would survive. i know they both died from head trauma and i feel confident from what i have heard that they didn't feel anything. they didn't know what was coming. they were ambushed. it's going to be really hard. i wanted to tell people that last night. this isn't easy. people keep saying how come you're so strong? i'm strong because i have family

and i'm strong because i have faith. i know that god did not do this. i know there are evil actions. what we do have is each other. we have love, we have prayers, family, our phone is ringing off the hook. people from high school and college and people around the united states and all of you here want to hear what we want to say. my dad and my son were at the wrong place at the wrong time for a split second. we want something good to come out of this. we don't know what that's going to be so we want to know what people think if there is something good that can come from it.

hopefully my son will be a tissue donor, possibly an organ donor. they don't know. he was 14, they had his permit and he had already signed up to be a donor on his own. i answered all the parent questions so i hope that i hear that he's able to help other people he loved debate. he loved to debate, he went to seven debate -- seven debate contests last semester. the first kmeser of his freshman year and he lettered. he got his letter. he was very proud of that. and he planned on going to debate camp this summer. he made it into tom sawyer at theeter in the park. we will have to go see that. he made it into starlight stars.

he was up and coming. but you know what? he was with us for a wonderful 14 years. he had a really full life for a 14-year-old. and we were very blessed. i have heard from his friends and talked to his best friend and they love him, too. so i hope that this is helpful to other people in the nation i hope this is helpful to people who are grieving. you have to reach to god, you have to reach to your friends and search your soul. and that's what it's about. it's about us who are living and about loving and caring for one another. thank you. >> you can see who got the strength in the family. my name is will, that was my

father and nephew that were killed. and you know, everybody wants to know how we're doing. and to varying degrees, we're muddling through. no one thinks they will have funerals to plan. no one thinks this will happen to your family. i know that my dad would have given anything if it could have just been him. that makes it so much harder.

my father leaves behind a legacy of faith and family and community i was just a baby when he was in college. he and my mom worked and put him through medical school. i have heard from people today who said my children, his hands were the firsthands on the planet that touched my children and i am so grateful for that and it touches my heart to hear things like that. he touched so many. and just leaves a wonderful legacy of family. we do have a strong family, and boy it's being tested.

we don't know why bad things happen to good people. nobody does. we choose not to focus on the why or what happened. it really doesn't matter. the fact remains that two of the people we love most in our life are now not here with us. and we do take comfort that they were together. we take comfort that they didn't suffer. we are very grateful to our parents, sister, and brother and church family, friends that they have here and all of our friends all over the united states that we're hearing from.

i'm happy to take a question or two if you could please just limit it to the family. [ inaudible question ] my understanding is i don't know this 100% but my understanding is they literally had just pulled into a parking place and opened the doors to get out. they were ambushed. [ inaudible question ] well, it takes no character to do what was done it takes no strength of character, it takes no ethics.

all it takes is an idiot with a gun. and the other grandkids. my dad always had one or more. it could have been a drunk driver. it could have been a car accident. it could have been any number of things. that's going to play out. our goal is to shine the light on my father and my nephew and hopefully on -- just the senselessness of these kind of

things. that idiot absolutely knocked a family to its knees for no reason. my dad should be seeing patients today at his work. reid, if they had school today, would have been in school studying and being with his friends. there is no reason for this. this is a tragedy. [ inaudible question ] >> the whole family, whether

it's baseball, lacrosse, whatever. family first. that is fact. that is the life. that is the whole reason they moved here in 2003 was to be closer to my sister, brother, and kids to be part of their lives. that's what they wanted to be. he died doing exactly what he wanted. if you could ask him to pick something like i said before, he would have given anything to just be him and we all feel that way. >> we very much love that. it was a huge part of his life. it has been since he was little.

he has gotten to be in some productions and school and summer productions. all of you have probably seen he was asked to sing the star spangled banner at an event whatever they wanted to do is what was important to the family. that was just what his passion was. he loved singing in the church choir. loved singing in choir at school. we're a musical family. we do sing a lot and have for years. holidays and things like that. it's a natural thing for him to be interested in. >> could you tell me more about the bond company your father and nephew? what is it that they saw in each

other? what connected them? >> you know, they did a lot of things together. reid being -- he's not the oldest grandchild but he's kind of the oldest -- i have the oldest who is 23, so the next group he's the oldest and they spent a lot of time with him when he was younger. did a lot of his early scouts with him, camping, things like that. i wouldn't say that his bond with reid was any more significant necessarily than with any of the other grandkids. it's just that they happened to be together this day. i can't emphasize enough, these are active grandparents. these are active people living an active life and a huge part of that life every dade has something to do with grandkids

whether it was reid or one of the other grandkids. it was family practice in oklahoma from 1976 to 2003, actually earlier than that. 1972 to 2003. they moved up to the pittsburgh area for a little while and then up to here. took a medical director job and operational health job. [ inaudible question ]

to be really honest, i'm not really sure. i haven't got visit with reid's brother yet. you know, i know this. kids are resilient. there have been a lot of tears. it's going to be a hard week for them. you know, not just obviously not just losing a brother, but, you know, a beloved grandfather. so, it's going to be difficult. it's going to be difficult for all of us. i'm going to wrap things up by saying that my mother and all the family that is in town now and those that i talk to really appreciate you all, the media respecting our privacy.

i'm sure that those would be made available. mindy has two or three charities i know that she would like, and i don't have those with me but i can e-mail them, that she would like to get out to have donations made in memory of reid and my father. i just can't stress enough that we as a family have been dealt a huge, huge blow, as i am sure you can see and perhaps imagine but we will go on and we will get through this and we will always have two huge holes. it will never be filled.

every day is going to be a reminder. if there is anyway possible that any little sliver of good, goodness, grace can come of this, that by the sheer grace of god, it will not have been just totally, totally for nothing. >> some heartbreak and courage from the family there in leewood, kansas, a suburb of kansas city. that is the uncle of reid underwood and he is the sun of reid's grandfather, william lewis, trying to bring the focus back to the victims, they are relying very much on faith and

family. they are trying to find comfort wherever they can. the fact that their two loved ones didn't suffer. that they were together at the time. they are not trying to focus on the why because they say it dupt matter. talk to us about what this means. the u.s. attorney's office said it will brute the cases of hate crime. where does that work in terms of jurisdiction? what kind of charges this man may face and he would only be tried once? >> you know, it's likely that the federal government is going to take the lead. that's the sense that we got from what they said today during the press conference.

and that does typically happen. there is attention oftentimes between the federal prosecute e's office and the state prosecutor's office. the u.s. attorney of kansas made it very clear that they are going into the grand jury that they have evidence of a hate crime. this means it will be prosecuted on the federal level. they have to show they have to show that the crime here is motivated in whole or in part by the offenders they have information that he is a lifelong white supremist. a grand dragon of the kkk. when you're looking at that as a federal investigator, you do have the makings about a federal hate crime case.

you have three victims here. this seems to fall into first degree premeditated murder. will work with the justice partment. you heard it's a four witness case. that is a very strong case. typically when you have a murder case you do not have that many witnesses and when you have a history of hate, i think the government has what seems to be a very strong case. >> none of the victims jewish as they turned out to be at a jewish center and assisted living center. thank you so much. up next we will be back to our breaking news in the search for flight 370.

this is special live coverage.

>> new evidence that the flight 370 turned around and was flying at a lower altitude. a u.s. official with firsthand knowledge of the investigation says malaysia knows this because the phone was searching for service after the jet lost contact. martin, what do you make of this report?

>> it's pretty interesting. it would seem to back up information that we already had that was verified through malaysian radar and that is that the plane did turn off course and did head in the direction of the northern peninsula of malaysia and that it might have been getting cloeer to the ground. if the cell phone were picking up in anyway they would have had to be closer to land and lower. remember it was nighttime. we simulated that they were giving a sense of that. >> why would the co-pilot have his cell phone on?

>> i can't think of a single reason why he would have his phone on. you're not taking calls, texting or surfing the internet. >> passengers are told that we have to turn the cell phone off, the pilots by training would turn their own phones off? >> there is that and that you are flying the airplane and you're not supposed to be distracted. >> keeping in mind something called the sterile cockpit. >> up next my panel will weigh in on this and the so-called blue fin is searching the ocean floor for wreckage. we will have more coming up.

>> bottom of the hour now. let's dissect the new information about the co-pilot's cell phone. it turns out it was on after the flight lost signal. malaysia knows this because the phone was searching for service. so joining me to success this now, cnn analyst from seattle and cnn aviation analyst, marry in charleston, south carolina. i want to ask you first about this. what does it tell us about the

co-pilot's cell phone? it seems odd that it was on. >> it can tell us probably three or 103 things but three things come immediately to mind. the dip down to 5,000 feet might have been them searching for a cell signal and the co-pilot was trying to kmen kate with someone if the plane had lost communications. the second scenario would be that somebody nefarious was going on and he was out on the flight deck searching for a signal and the third thing would be that he left his cell phone on as we all have done from time to time. >> some simple and an accident. it does remain a mystery as to why that happened. i want to move on and talk about the blue fin this is an underwater drone.

what information will the blue fin be gathering and what will the teams be gathering? >> it is collecting sonar information. sonar is the process by which we use sound rather than light to scan the ocean floor and it will bring back a hard drive filled with digital data that analysts will then be able to look at and interpret. and it will essentially show a picture of the sea floor. it will show everything that the auv was able to see and hopefully able to find the wreckage on the sea floor. >> is there a camera? we're talking about side scan sonar. >> that's right. we are talking about sonar imagery. so, you know, these are pictures made with sound rather than light. anyone that has had an

ultrasound or seen the first images of a baby in the womb has probably seen an ultrasound picture which is actually a form of sonar. we are just talking about that on an industrial scale. >> okay. so that is what we will be looking for. if the blue fin does find something, then what? does the submersible go back down? what happens? >> they will want to find all the wreckage and zero in on where the black boxes are or might be. they will finish the mapping with the blue fin. to pick up or manipulate or handle any of the wreckage, they will have to send in more complicated or a different form of a submersible. one that has arms that can be manipulated or even there are manned submersibles that they can send in.

and the sad terrible task, there are remains and human lives to be considered and they will have a demort service to come in and handle and consult with the families on how they want the remains handled and that is the most awful thing of all. >> terrible. and we know that the phases in which recovery would go through would be first trying to get the black boxes and then going back trying to see if they can recover bodies which certainly would matter a lot to the family of these victims. we will be right back with you. coming up, more on the special coverage, including the oil slick that was found. what clues could that give us? and we're getting word that a russian jet has flown around a dozen times? what does vladimir putin think is in play here? try alka seltzer fruit chews.

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it flew all around it. at one point just 500 feet above sea level. the ship tried to contact the russian plane and it goat no response. pro russian demonstrators tried to take over another ukrainian building. at least the tenth and this came on the same day as the supposed deadline for protesters to abandon those buildings. bobby gauche is here with me now. thanks so much for being with me. i want to start with this news about the plane. this is provocative. a dozen passes around the warship. does this come from vladimir putin himself? >> i wouldn't go that far but people down the chain of command from his own fairly provocative

rhetoric and behavior. there is a protocall and courtesy that usually applies here of military vessels and two different countries. they are meant to let each other know and certainly not fly low and around in the manner that you are describing. that is certainly provocative. >> a dozen times over the course of an hour and a half. you can imagine what it would have been like to be there, just so alarming. and we are hearing multiple reports that ukrainian police are nowhere to be seen in these cities where prorussian -- why is that? do we know? >> that is a bad sign. it is -- it is incompetent already.

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>> you have questions about flight 370. ocean search specialist is in seattle. we are in charleston, south carolina. let's begin with that oil slick that was found by the australian ship ocean shield on sunday night. mike wants to know if the plane ran out of gas or fuel, right, what could the slick be? hydraulic fluid is what he asks. what do you think? >> it could be and there are other lubricants and fluids in the plane. you will be able to tell it right away. the oils and lubricants are very specialized and they have to be approved for use on an airplane. it would be unlike anything used by a maritime application.

>> that will be scooped up and we should know what it is. mary ann wants to know after 30 some on days wouldn't any oil or fuel slick have broken up and be dispersed by now especially due to storms? >> that's a good question but at the moment, everything needs to be explored. any fluids that went down with the aircraft to this kind of depth will have changed consistently. i think it's unlikely that the slick is from mh-370. >> it could be like asphalt? that's not necessarily what you would expect. that's pretty fascinating. >> i want to ask you about the blue fin, this underwater vehicle that is going don to do the side scan sonar.

mary wants to know, the u.s. supplied the blue fin 21, can't another country supply the other one? what do you think? >> there are more than one, but they are owned by other people, private industry mostly and the australians said if they needed to get more they would ask for more but right now the u.s. navy has provided this one. they are very expensive and probably would have to be taken off of other jobs. there aren't many. >> not many but more than one. rob canwants to know once this a is downloaded, will it immediately go right back out or will the data be reviewed first? >> it takes a little while to recharge unless they have another set of batteries which they probably do and they probably have another hard drive so they will swap out the batteries and hard drive. >> and recharge it and send it

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style last night. he took the family. >> tehello everyone. thank you so much for joining us. a u.s. official with firsthand knowledge of the investigation says there is no indication he was making a call but it means the phone was on. and flying low enough to obtain a signal from a cell tower in malaysia after the jet lost contact and no longer believe a debris field will be found. this search going underwater

with the u.s. navy's underwater drone, the blue fin. >> the deployment of the autonomous underwater vehicle can take us a further step since visual identification since it offers a possible opportunity to detect debris from the aircraft on the ocean floor. >> the blue fin uses sonar but it's painfully slow, taking two hours to even get down there. means visual searches are soon to be called off. this is, despite the fact that an oil slick has been spotted, liters of fluid are now being examined. what does that mean now? aviation correspondent is in wa w with the latest. >> what it means is is a very,

very long process likely ahead. blue fin moves at about walking pace. you're looking at that area on the screen. it will only stand about 15 square miles in its first 24 hour mission. it takes as you said two hours to reach the ocean floor. 16 hours to scan the area. and another two hours to return to the surface and then about four hours to download the data. the data is not streaming live. they have to wait until blue fin rurps to the surface to view it. this could be a long haul. air france, the wreckage was nearly 7.5 miles from the plane's last known position.

that doesn't sound terribly far but it took two years for them to find it. that's how difficult these searches are. we do know once they have launched blue fin. they weren't able to detect any more pings. the last ones that were detected six days ago. >> appreciate your reporting. very, very much. joining me now is cnn aviation analyst. sylvia, she is in san francisco. what is this new information tell you? anything? >> well, it's coming rather late in the day to get this information. it's a shocker that this is very significant. if true, you remember we heard recently that the plane was reported to have decented to an altitude of 4,000 or 5,000 feet. you have to be down low in order

to connect between the cell phone and cell phone tower. >> they tell people to -- you can leave your phone on in the united states but it must be in airplane mode. is it unusual for a co-pilot to have his phone on and in working mode? >> you're not supposed to have it on. it really messes up communications on the ground. so it implies if it's true, again, that the co-pilot alone among all the people who were on the plane had turned on his phone. none of the other. >> donny:s that might have been in people's pockets. >> what's the possibility that the co-pilot forgot it and no one on left their phone on by accident? we don't really know. perhaps he was in on it and the cap pain would turn on an

attempt or conversely maybe he wasn't in on it, knew what was happening, perhaps locked out of the cockpit. >> is this a significant development to you? obviously conspiracy theorists are going to say, the last question i say, what are the odds, the co-pilot's cell phone, the only one that is on, he must have been in on it. >> it's just so hard. since this whole event has begun to unfold, five weeks ago now, we have had little pieces of information leaked. so we're left to make a judgment for yourself. has it become garble d in the translation? >> we just don't know yet.

>> what type of information is the movement gathering and what will teams be analyzing? it seems like a small area as reported but it's a much broader area than is possible if you were just down there using your eyes or cameras remember it's really dark down there. sit so difficult. it's an area that is little known. the maps are very thin in terms of the information that we have. like most of the ocean. we have for the land or the moon

on mars and the southern indian ocean is part of the high seas. it's way beyond the jurisdiction therefore it's in some of the least known parts of the pland. it can take pictures but not traditional type pictures. it uses, i guess it's sonar that is bumping around against things to take an image. >> it's like the way dolphins see with sound. they scan the area and visuallize. sonar images, they are pretty good. the resolution does not have the kind of fine resolution that the blue fin is providing but it has

to move slowly and it can only go over a relatively small area. we're not even certain that we are exactly in the right area. at least with the air france catastrophe, it was known pretty much where the plane went down. here we're just guessing. >> there is a mathematical probability that has been used. the question to you is it's pain stakingly slow. most of the experts have been saying. but now you get an indication of just how vast and just how unknown the ocean is, especially in that area. and you heard angus houston say they are doing this blindly. >> they have been able to use other types of sonar where they can characterize the nature of the sea.

that's a good thing. it's not really difficult. when we talk about the size of the search area, that's really an arbitrary number. we're looking for the pings. two of them were lines and two of them were potentially dots. so that's what they're going to be looking for first. that area is really small. so if you go to the biggest strongest pings. really pretty quickly like in the next day or two. if they are as positive as it is. >> we see the cautious optimism. we appreciate both of you. and just ahead, patents for black boxes are skyrocketing

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where investigators have spent significant time trying to locate black boxes. before crews were able to bring up the plane's recorders. that 2009 crash sparked a surge of patents for finding lost plains. >> basically after the crash into the atlantic ocean, as you mentioned you have inventors and engineers help come up with ways to help black boxes be found faster. i want to go through with you a method of capturing and audio in a cockpit, converting the audio into text using voice recognition technology and if there is a warning on board the aircraft it would send the last few pages of transcript to computers on the ground. they would have a method of basically allowing investigators to do some work of some of the

data using some of the transcript and audio. air france crashed partly because of pilot error so one invention is motivated to create an app to allow pilots to review their performance. it uses gps and speed altitude acceleration and outside factors like weather, turbulence, wind speed and every single time the pilot lands he would get a report. that would help if pilots were consistently making the same errors over andover. and lastly, allowing technologies on the ground to monitor the health of the batteries during take off and possiblily during flight. >> that all sounds great, especially for pilots to be able to correct their mistakes in realtime.

why is the industry so slow. that means the cost of flying for you and i obviously is going to increase. i certainly don't mind paying more. it means that the planes are safer. if the airline chooses to absorb cost, they will be unwilling to do that unless it is man daded by the government. how long it takes regulation. those two combined, that's why it's typically quite slow. >> great information. thank you, appreciate it. >> we put a go pro camera on one and took it underwater. and as the stand off escalates we're getting word that a

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>> welcome back, everyone. troubling new signs of rising tensions between russia and the u.s. over ukraine. the latest part? a russian air force plane made 12 passes near a u.s. navy warship in the black sea over the weekend. a move that the navy is calling provocative and unprofessional. i want to bring this in. this is not involving the russian plane. something like that doesn't just happen. >> you're absolutely right. these things don't happen by accident. i think that rather than a clear much it's almost like a wrestler

that is trying to throw you with a couple of fancy moves and scattering things around. he is trying to figure out how much trouble can he bring? >> he is pushing around the edges lots of pro russians will they be able to get control or can i then step in and say we need to look after russians, in the ukraine they're being discriminated and persecuted. all of -- these are moves to create kays no which he can then say the russian army is the solution to. most people say crimea is not coming back.

a lot of these people are well organized, they have no army uniforms, no markings. often have ski masks on. this is exactly what happened. it is essentially a kind of kgb special op. it's not the army but it isn't just random people who are pro russian. >> with the same guns as the military. >> working on a schedule with military position. these guys seem very organized. they have weapons and instructions. >> has the ukrainian government already lost control? >> i think that is is the

crucial question. >> they have to clear out squares and use tear gas. >> is this a done deal? >> here is what they're worried about. this is russia. 40,000 russian troops. if the ukrainian government clears the activists out, what if there are a lot of deaths? the russian arm why will have the perfect pretext to go in. that's the game they're playing. they have got to get control over their country. there is very little people from the outside can do if the government cannot get control of ten office buildings in eastern ukrai ukraine. >> of course you can see it on sunday here or do what i do. dvr as well. we appreciate it. i want to stay with the story.

our pentagon correspondent joins me now. do u.s. officials believe that the u.s.s. donald cook was threat mpbed in anyway? u.s. officials are telling us this is one of the most significant encounters they have had in years. you know, this su 24 russian air force fighter unarmed, none the less, spent 90 minutes making 12 passes right near the donald cook in international waters in the black sea, going low and fast. 500 feet above the water. the navy tried to call the plane during the 90 minutes and said back off and got absolutely no answer. the pentagon is saying this was

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>> bottom of the hour. we have just learned the co-pilot of flight 370 had his cell phone on and this phone was detected searching for service near panang. this fits the belief that the plane had turned around and dropped significantly in altitude. as for the search, planes are about to be put back into the bunkers and ships will return to shore as the search for the debris field winds down. the hunt for flight 370 is now underwater.

>> analysis has allowed the definition of a reduced and manageable search area on the ocean floor. the experts have determined that the defense vels ocean shield will cease searching later today and deploy the underwater vehicle blue fin 21 as soon as possible. >> joining me to talk about martin savage, let's talk about this revelation that the co-pilot's phone was on and low enough in altitude to connect with a cell phone tower. what do you make of this? >> in a lot of ways it supports what we already knew, which is that the aircraft turned off course, that it did seem to return towards malaysia, and

that as you point out it dropped in altitude. the belief is that they were over the south china sea. so, presumably they were over land and lower to the ground. right now we are simulating flying over malaysia. it would have been nighttime then. it fits but the other thing is that it seems very strange. >> it does seem very strange. mitchell, could this be a simple mistake? a pilot leaving his phone on by accident? or would no pilot make that mistake? just a couple months ago we mad to completely turn them off. now we can leave them on but you have to have them in airplane mode. >> it could be a mistake. we all make mistakes so it's possible. but unlikely. these are professionals.

they know better than to keep their phone on. >> i think mitchell and i discussed that the fact that that phone came on or was left on is certainly goes against all the training and the pilot and could indicate that in some way somebody on that aircraft was trying to communicate but that's as far as you can go with it. >> we will figure that out as the investigation continues. straight ahead we will talk about the oil slick found near the search area and what it could mean in the hunt. plus she is a white spremist opening fire on jewish centers and we now know his victims were christians. we will talk abhis past and ties to hate groups straight ahead. stay with us.

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>> a known racist and suspected killer is expected to have a court hearing today. terry was a mother and occupational therapist and routinely visited her mother living at a jewish assisted living facility. 14-year-old boy was going to oon audition at the jewish community center. reid was a singer and this video shows him performing last year. earlier his mother and uncle spoke to reporters. >> as i pulled up i saw that he was lying on the ground and my first thought was that he had a heart attack. he was just lying there. very quickly i realized that it wasn't that and i knew that my dad was in heaven within seconds. >> no one believes this will happen to you, to your family i

know that my dad would have given anything if it could have just been him. he would have stood up and just said take me. >> perhaps the killings will be prosecuted as a hate crime. mark, your group has been following frazier glen cross for years. do you know of anything that could have set him off and possibly triggered this attack or was it all about timing at the right time as passover began? >> well, i think it may have had something to do with passover. it probably had a great deal to do with his age. he was 73, going on 74. we have seen this kind of thing before when the holocaust museum was attacked in 2009, the man

was in his late 80s and wanted to go out in some kind of hail or glory or bullets or whatever. in this case i don't think there is anything very obvious as to why the man allegedly began so it's very unclear. >> what does being in his 70s have to do with it? >> i'm sorry what does what have to do with it? >> you said his age. what does that have to do with it. i know a lot of people in their 70s and they're not white spremists. >> look, it's very, very unusual. i'm suggesting that it is possible he was near the end of

his life and he might have felt that by golly he was going to leave this world and take a few enemies with him. . there is no known i imagine we will hear something about it when he finally goes to trial. >> how will that play among his fellow peers? there are people on websites talking about it. he didn't kill anyone who was jewish? >> that's right. look, this man was not well liked be many already. he agreed to testify against his comrades. he has spent time working his way back into the graces of

these people. he has been published in a newspaper called the arian alternative. the incredible news that his victims were two methodists and a catholic will have some impact out there. there is no doubt that there are other people now describing him as an idiot. but at the end of the day, the whole story is just a tragedy. the result of an identitiology that has no basis in reality but none the less in reality. >> he was a founding member of the ku klux klan. is that how your group became

aware of him? he was actually active in the movement. at a very young age he joined the national states rights party. but when he started the carolina knights of the kkk, we certainly did become aware of him. these were really paramilitary klan groups. they were in the streets marching in fatigues and carrying weapons and ultimately they were also receiving training and stolen weapons from active duty marines at ft. bragg. when he was finally recaptured by the fbi he was found with a

lot of c4 plastic explosives, weapons, ammunition and a plan to murder the founder of the southern poverty law center. at that point he was finally thrown in prison. >> when you think about somebody who has that sort of ammunition, many people have been asking many why hasn't he been called a terrorist? because he clearly terrorized a whole group of people. coming up we're taking a closer look at reports of an oil slick. could it be from the missing plane? and leaks about intelligence gathering leading to the highest honor in journalist. that story after the break.

>> news just in. revelations by edward snowden have led to journalism's highest honor. two papers that published revelations about u.s. surveillance practices. is this a big win for snowden? >> it is a big win for him and

people who helped him leak the documents. on the one hand, national and international debate. the other hand it was based on documents that edward snowden handed over. some people feel that was grossly inappropriate. a lot of journalists said he did the right thing. it's very interesting today. >> the question is you just mentioned partially but he has been criticized by the obama administration by many in the government if this is in recognition for those papers for leaking them.

they are the highest honor in journalism. clearly, the stories for prizes. it went on to say that even the president has acknowledged that this is a conversation that we need to have. but by having the prizes being given by the board is going reig night the debate. >> thank you, brian. we appreciate you. . now back to our coverage of missing flight 370.

you have questions and we have experts to help answer them. joining me is jeff wise in new york, oceanographer and explorer, sylvia earl in san francisco. our first question comes from phil. if mh-370 ran out of fuel, it seems that there would not be enough residue to create an oil slick unless they were carrying barrels of oil. well, it would come maybe from hydraulics or things other than fuel. >> right. well -- that's right. there's hydraulics, lube bricat oil. not every single molecule of fuel gets into the engine and is consumed. there's a little bit left over in the pipes, as it were. so this isn't a very big slick,

from what we are hearing. it's a relatively small amount. bear in mind, we don't know that it came from the plane. but it's not inconsistent with a plane running low on fuel. >> the bulk of our questions in the beginning were about cell phones. was cell phone use allowed on this flight? if so, then did any passengers or crew members contact family or friends? i know we don't know yet but here's a question. is it likely? i don't think so. >> we know that they did not. >> no. >> and so that's why this is such big news today, about the co-pilot and his phone constantly trying to get a signal. >> up until this moment we had heard that no such communication took place. now this is what is baffling. they know there was an exception. one phone connected to the cell phone network. a call didn't go through but merely the phone tried to

connect with a network through a cell phone tower. >> i'm going to ask you about the bluefin-21. this comes from charles. what is the difference between the bluefin-21 sonar and submarine sonar? why can't the submarine do the work faster? >> well, a submarine, if we're talking about a nuclear submarine, there are dozens or more crew members on board. it's a large ship designed to go out into the ocean and do various functions. whereas the bluefin is relatively small, relatively nimble. you can program it to go back and forth like a lawn mower. you can deploy it deep in the ocean and there's no lives at stake. it's not that it's completely fundamentally different but it's a much more appropriate piece of equipment for the job that needs to be done. >> the battery in my watch lasts three years, smoke detector, six months. why are data recorders only six

months? >> you don't want to have a piece of equipment that is too large. every day thousands of aircraft are flying through the air carrying this piece of equipment. if you have it too big, it's just wasting fuel. maybe just a little bit but multiply that by the thousands of planes. you don't want to do that. >> okay. i know that this has more information, probably takes more energy. >> right. >> but have you ever seen a battery in a smoke detector? >> it's a different job. >> it's pretty small. >> but it's doing a small job, too. it's just very pass civively detecting the carbons in the air. this is a piece of equipment that is putting out an acoustic signal and putting out energy into the water. it requires a big battery. >> we have to do it. i mean, this whole 30-day thing, we'd be in a much different place. >> not really. the only reason we're looking for this pinger when we did is because it was so close to running out, we said, to heck with it, the chances are one in a million --

>> so they hit a one in a million chance but then the batteries ran out. >> well, we don't know. we don't know. we'll find out pretty soon, hopefully, whether there was something there or not. but the reason we were listening now is because the thing was about to run out. >> right. yeah. >> and you're right. we don't know. thank you, jeff. appreciate it. up next, a child who lost his life 24 hours ago allegedly at the hands of a white supremacist. you're about to hear the beautiful voice of this young boy. this boy will definitely inspire you.

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welcome back, everyone. i'm don lemon. finally, a moment now to appreciate a young life unfairly taken. reat griffin underwood was the younge youngest of three people killed.

reat was 14 and he wanted to sing. he was with his grandfather at the time of his death auditioning for a talent show. you're about to hear how gifted he was. this youtube clip shows a high school freshman in august singing the national anthem. ♪ o see can you see ♪ whose broad stripes and bright stars ♪ ♪ through the perilous fight ♪ ore the ramparts we watched ♪ were so gallantly streaming ♪ and the rockets that blared

♪ the bombs busting in air ♪ gave proof through the night that our flag was still there ♪ ♪ oh say does that star spangled banner yet wave ♪ ♪ the land of the free and the home of the brave ♪ [ applause ] >> such a beautiful, beautiful voice. again, condolences to the families of those victims killed in kansas.

reat griffin underwad was 14. thank you so much for joining us. i'm don lemon. "the lead" with jake tapper starts right now. the man accused of shooting and killing three people at two jewish centers will be charged under hate crime laws. why would he not also be considered a domestic terrorist? i'm jake tapper. this is "the lead." and the national lead. we'll be joined by a man who lost both his father and his nephew in an instant. the world lead. the focus for flight 370 finally, finally moves under the water. do they have something to go on? was the