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mayoral duties. i won't back down. it doesn't matter what challenges lie ahead. that's it for me. i will be back 5:00 p.m. eastern. another special two-hour situation room. newsroom with brooke baldwin starts right now. >> thank you so much. >> they are expected to announce today they are sending a rescue and salvage ship to help in what is now an effort to salvage the wreckage of the south korean ferry so the search for survivors is really turning increasingly grim at this hour. now new pictures coming to us today inside the once singeing ship. first of all, here we are beginning day 3. and you see by the looks of these pictures, that boat is now
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completely underwater and the death toll has risen to 29. scuba divers have made multiple attempts but debris hampered search efforts to get up to where the passenger cabins are located. we are getting a look inside is singeing ship. you can see now as the water is reshing into the ferry. they were gripping the guardrails. >> we are now hearing part of that conversation between the
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ferry's crew and ocean ministry officials. take a listen. >> this is the captain caught on camera being rescued, leaving his ship and hundreds of his passengers behind. an arrest warrant has now been issued for him and two other crew members.
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>> that individual here, investigators say he committed suicide. they found him hanging from a tree not far from where the families have been gathering waiting for word on their children in south korea. also under investigation, officials say a third mate, not the captain, was at the helm of the ferry when it capsized. we will dig a little deeper into this including a stunning rec d
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record. >> according to this source, it is odd that the transmitters did not activate or at the very least were not picked up by the emergency monitoring satellite. this is new information that we're just turning around for you. the 777 disappeared six weeks ago. still no answers as to what happened to the 239 people on board. right now the blue fin is on mission number five, a deep water journey to scour miles of the ocean floor just trying to find any traces, proof, evidence, debris, something from this plane. crews spent hours analyzing data from blue fin's fourth mission came up empty. this week this drone has scanned more than 42 square miles without yielding a single clue. malaysia's transport minister said they may now add more underwater drones to help in the search. the extra drones might be
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deployed to a larger zone. australia's top transport officials say authorities may consider expanding the search area significantly but with no evidence, with no debris. more on this mission number five. erin? >> as of 9:00 a.m. this morning, the blue fin was in the water searching for any signs of missing malaysian flight 370. we are hearing more information about the fourth dive that took place last night. i understand it was able to travel some 4.7 kilometers beneath the ocean surface, which is significant given that it was originally thought that the 4.5 kilometer mark was on the upper reaches. it had to cut its first mission short because it traveled into waters originally thought too
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deep. the fact that it's now able to travel into some of the deeper waters is important and significant that because it's important that it be able to search this entire area that has been identified by experts based on detailed akous tick analysis. no signs of missing plane as yet, still waiting again. >> thank you so much, 2:00 in the morning. now this blue fin started its latest mentioned nine hours ago. ideally it's supposed to scan the ocean flr plus spend two hours traveling each way. it shouldn't be on the ocean floor. let's broaden the conversation.
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so, captain, let me begin with you. because, we heard from malaysia's transport minister, actually via twitter that they are considering more auvs in addition to this one auv 21. what else could they use? >> there are a number of auvs rated at this depth. it will be similaring thenology but may be measure vehicles. i don't know if they would use some of the other vehicles. which is very similar technology but again, it just speeds up the search if you can have multiple assets working in cooperation. >> air france was three times over and a lot of people are wondering why aren't they using more. so maybe they will. let's say if they throw more resources, that they come up empty or tomorrow or in a couple of weeks. >> itd's not a matter of time,
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it's really a matter of how much of the area do they cover. right now they're searching in the area ya where they think they heard the pings from the black boxes. they have done some analysis. that's about 320 to 500 square miles. that's a good chunk of area given that they have only uncovered about 40 square miles. if they get through the whole area and still have found nothing and that's several weeks, maybe a month, month and a half, then it's time to regroup. >> could be a couple more weeks before they are able to look at the entire area. how big is this? >> what i could see on marine traffic.com, i could watch the ocean shield just like i could
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go flight explorer. we can go and watch all the boats. we can see them out there, how fast they're going, what direction they're going and where they have been. really quickly, this ocean shield has been going about .4 knots. a half a mile per hour. does that seem slow to you? >> again, the thing to watch is the blue fin. it moves by itself. it's completely unconnected. the fact that the ocean shield may be staying in one spot while a vehicle is on the bottom means nothing. the issue is how much of the ocean bottom is the blue fin ablg to get over. i wouldn't read too much into the fact that the ship is staying stationary. >> the blue fin could be going back and forth and it could just
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be on top of it? that doesn't tell us a thing? >> absolutely. >> that's what i saw. let me show you this. i said wow this boat, this ocean shield essentially came to a stop, and that's great news. if it came to a stop then maybe this blue fin found something. here is australia. here is the indian ocean. that, brooke, that dot is what they have it down to right now. that is it. that's about 49 to 50 square miles here in that polygone. but something else, we know that as the pinger went across, it found the two hours and 15 minutes worth of pinging. they found a sofar layer, or a deep ocean layer. if the ping ser here, there is something, it's the same reason why when you were a kid you could listen to your short wave radio and hear radio moscow
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because these frequencies can bounce back and forth and give you an error when you think you're close but you're not. so maybe we do have to expand this area. have you heard about this sofar layer? >> that is a very well known mechanism in the ocean that makes some sounds, i want to say some go very long distances. it was a mechanism where we could find downed pilots. it's very dependent on the fr frequency of the sound. as you go up in frequency, get higher, the ocean absorbs the energy very quickly. the frequencies they are dealing with here, it is -- that signal will not go very far. one, two, maybe three miles. and that's it. >> talk about the very low
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sounds. >> it's amaze iing hopefully th can throw some more resources at this. >> i think this is one of the coolest things i have seen all day. this is what the ocean shield has done now this is the same square. that's what the ocean shield has done in the past nine hours. that's it. don't look to that. the blue fin is down below going back and forth. it has not moved much. >> thank you both very much. talk about a somber day in nepal. we will get reaction from a professional climber coming up who knows firsthand what it's like to survive there in this part of the world. and it was confidential information about the clinton's time in the white house until an
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hour ago. we will take a look at what's inside the latest release of documents. and we will take you inside this ferry simulator to give you an idea of what it looks like and felt like as the south korean ship capsized with all the high school students and teachers. stay tuned. this is mike. his long race day starts with back pain... ...and a choice. take 4 advil in a day which is 2 aleve... ...for all day relief.
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i want to jump in the sea, she says, thinking about my child in the sea, how can i as a parent eat or drink? i hate myself for this. >> distraught families of passengers on board this capsized south korean ferry, expressing their ang kwish not knowing if their missing children and loved ones are still alive. the search continues. the u.s. navy is now on site to help. as we said at the top of the hour, we just learned that the department of defense will be sending the u.s. ss safeguard to help here. and an aress warrant has been issued for the captain of this ferry.
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fegtors say the captain was not at the helm. the high school vice principal committed suicide. officials say they found him hanging from a tree right around where family members are waiting for word. we have scene some dramatic scenes from inside the ferry when it can to sink. >> this is what it looked and felt like. so at point, it is falling. department and there would be
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great fear for ship captain. the ship started to sink. >> it certainly is at this point. >> the captain warned passengers to stay where they are. >> don't move. if you move it is more dangerous. don't move. >> this cell phone video shows people staying in place. those that ignored the warning believe that is why they got out alive. >> the captain says that is not standard protocol, that passengers should have been moved to upper decks. >> is there something that a passenger should do in a situation like that? >> you would certainly go to a higher deck, where you can exit the vessel. generally speaking you are safer on the vessel until you assess
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that the vessel is going to sink. >> when the ferry started to take on water, alarms like these would have sounded immediately. nor would they specify where the water was coming in. >> investigators believe the ferry likely ran off course due to foggy weather. >> the danger is not in overcorrecting but getting to the point of no return. >> they are dealing with heavy rains, high winds, rough seas.
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it's easy to understood why it has been so difficult for rescuer rescuers to get inside that ferry. neither time nor temperature are on their side. >> what was it like to be in there? >> it was so strange. it was ver disorienting. it was hard to remember that we were on dry lan. it's filled with windows in there. so it was just really hard to get your bearing and figure out exactly where you were. and it did happen in real life, it's just terrifying. >> thank you for trying to bring us their perspective. coming up next, martin savage.
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>> we have got breaking news here just coming in from the senior malaysian aviation source telling cnn a couple of things. flight 370 did have four emergency locator transmitters on board this plane and according to this source, it is odd that these elts, these
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transmitters did not activate or were not picked up. so richard quest, our cnn aviation analyst who has been all over this since day one, can you explain to me what elts are and why this is so bizarre? >> so the elt, the emergency locator transmitter, this is different to the pingers. the pingers are designed to continue to transmit a particular signal on the recognized frequency that we have been talking about for so many weeks. the elts are designed to send a signal to a satellite in the event of an impact. they are not only used by planes, they are used by ships. they are even used by expeditions any time where if you were to get into trouble, you would need to send an emergency signal. they are picked up by satellites. they are processed through
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emergency services and then obviously held when rescue is brought along. this is some difficulty in understanding their capabilities under water. >> okay. so we can deduce based upon all of the search and analysis that this plane is somewhere in the water. upon impact, the elt should have gone off. >> very unlikely. extremely unlikely. we are in unique unprecedented territory but the location of the elts believe one is in the cockpit, one is in the fuselage and one is behind the front tootoor door? is it possible? there's a possibility. one of the great unknowns about 370 has always been why the elts
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gave no signal either on impact if it crashed on land our water. why was there no elt transmission? now we know that there is four or it is believed there were four of them on board the aircraft. that is something that will have to come out in the investigation. the failure of the elts to give a transmission. >> all of these methods of kmin occasions, other communicative devices. none of them worked. it's perplexing but i will move on from that. we are getting more information from senior malaysian source is more the altitude, after that left turn, what do we know now? >> the source is telling cnn that the turn which is 01:22, the turn happens in vietnamese
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air space. that shouldn't be a surprise. the transponter is switched off. we know this from flight level 350,000, we know that is where it was at. that was the last air traffic control that we had. and it climbs to 39,000 feet. >> sit coming. here we go. >> all right. so at this point, that point is at vietnamese air space.
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it climbs to 39,000 feet. it stays there for 20 minutes until a decent and then an ascent. that's the way the source explains what's happened. it turns in vietnamese, it climbs to 39,000, it crosses 39,000 and then dekrescends aft. >> the theories will go this way. somebody was at the controls and we know they were because we have already been told many or all of the maneuvers, the change in direction were deliberate. what it doesn't tell us and i will disagree to the n thd degree, it does not tell us was it nefarious? there will be those who will choose to take that road at this
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point. >> thank you so much. coming up here, a live report from underwater. because if this plane wreckage from malaysian airlines is somewhere on the bottom of the ocean, finding it, bringing it to the surface will be a monumental task so martin savage is getting a firsthand look at what it would be like. hi, martin. >> hey, brooke. you're right. what if the black box is trapped? we will show you one technique. of trying to set it free, coming up. then we gave each person a ribbon to show how many years that amount might last. i was trying to, like, pull it a little further. [ woman ] got me to 70 years old. i'm going to have to rethink this thing.
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>> just past the bottom of the hour, you're watching cnn.
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a senior malaysian aviation source tells cnn that flight 370 had four emergency transmitters on board that would emit a signal. interesting to note that the source added it is odd that the transmitters did not activate or go off. meanwhile, this blue fin 21, now on its fifth mission, diving deep below the ocean surface desperately searching for debris. finding these two black boxes would be something better. the task is not at all es. we are live in the waters we should be clear that mar kin is down there in a manned
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submarine. i'm going to hand it to you and your colleague there. explain to me the task of trying to find something to see something through all of this americay water. >> you're right. it is murky down here. and that is an obstacle often. you're never going have perfect visibility. >> the fact of the maser is, the bottom is at all silty, you start stirring up the bottom and kicking it up with your thrusters. >> what we wanted to show for you here, it's a show and tell. maybe if it did go in the box it could be entangled, trapped,
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this process is to show you tow ho clear wiring or tubing that could somehow be in the way. could you give us a demonstration? >> sure. we have a guillotine cutter. >> that's what we see on the right hand side. >> here in the back, he is going to be making the pneumatic -- hydraulic, sorry. you did tell me that. this blade is slicing through very throwly into this piping here. it looks like it's cut. you will see the others and
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retreat. but, you know, that is just one piece here, brooke. and at depth it will take you a long time to start clearing a lot of debris. so moving just one piece is only just one small event. we're talking about hours you could be down here doing this. long term you could be 15 hours or more. >> we were talking about the auv. what are the advantages and disadvantages of using an auc, rov versus controlled by man? >> that's a very good question. the differences between an auv,
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an rov or in a submersible like this. a submersible is completely autonomous? >> the auv stands for autonomous underwater vehicle. but they have to be pre-programmed because there is no way to control them from the surface. once they submerge, it is impossible. >> can they retrieve anything? >> no. they can cover areas that are preprogrammed. >> all of the rov power comes from the surface. the communication atop the climber. so you handing a machine looking at the video camera.
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if you can imagine having 20 odd thousand feet of umbilical, that's four miles of cable going down to this robotic machine and working around a wreck. all of that could well get snarled up. thoost one of the big problems with working in those conditions, the manned submersible, although there are very few in the world can can go the depth they can move around without nag iging umbilicals. then it's up to the deep water rovs to work together. >> as we just demonstrated for
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you, is what it's going to take. it's dangerous work. >> indeed. it's important to be familiar with all of these pieces of technology. it could be some of what phil outlined. a million times thank you. when we come back, a fatal disaster claimed the lives of 12 incredibly experienced guides. any next guest has survived an avalanche and knew one of the brave sherpas who died. that's next. baron of the build-out. you need a permit... to be this awesome. an..rent from national. because only national lets you choose any car in the aisle... and go. and only national is ranked highest in car rental customer satisfaction by j.d. power.
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>> welcome back. at this hour, our good folks at washington are speed reading through hundreds of pages of documents from the clinton administration this is the very same day that the cover of hillary clinton's upcoming memoir was unveiled. in your speed reading, have you found anything in the doumds news worthy? >> bomb shells, no, but this really does add a lot of color. we're going through 7500 documents. a lot of stuff on health care reform which was a huge and failed effort. one of the things that is so
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interesting. several months before it fell apard, the white house pulled it they thought it was going to be a winning issue. in the end there was not a vote. she is now chelsea clinton's mother in law and one of the interesting things that you might file in what's old is new again president clinton voicing concern that people needed to be assured that if people liked their health insurance they could keep it. >> i have heard that before. >> as far as the book is concerned, let's throw the cover up again. it's meant to burnish her legacy, but as we look around today and we see what's happening in ukraine and syria, the stalemate in the middle east, a lot of the legacy is
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unfinished or has not turned out as well as one wanted. could her biggest claim become a burden if she were to run? >> what is shi going to say she accomplished? she doesn't have one or two big slam dunks that she can say here is what i did that is so important. she recently struggles to really explain that. you take the baton and do your stint and pass it on. a lot of people say one of her biggest assets is her time as secretary of state that's why we're awaiting her side of the story. >> one bit of her legacy, she's about to become a grandmother. that's some exciting news for the clintons for sure.
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when we come back it is now the we will talk to our next guest about this tragedy on the beautiful mountain next. i saw this red, blistery, rash and i felt this horrible pain on one side of my back. i had 16 magic shows to do. i didn't know how i was going to be able to do these shows with this kind of pain that i was in. i told my wife what i had. she went on the internet and said "i think you have shingles."
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>> now to what has become the single deadliest accident on the earth's highest mountain, killing at least 12 sherpa guides and racing to find others
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who are still missing. this is an ethnic group of people who live in the him lay yas, they are guides and they were preparing the route to the summit for climbers. three people are seriously wound ed let's bring in ron rad live from montana. you have summited with one of the guides who has died. you have survived an avalanche. what was your reaction when you first heard about this? >> it was a pit in my stomach. it's going up through the ice ball is the single most dangerous stretch. the sherpas will go through that ice ball probably four times so
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they are exposed to greater risk. it's just a game of odds sometimes. >> help us understand. we are coming up to really the best possible window of the year for climbers to summit everest. so these sherpas, explain to us, these are natives of the mountains. what were they doing at the time? were they preparing the route? >> the route that they were on, doctors put that in as rope that goes up and down it.
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cut loose. >> what was it? 1999 you survived an avalanche? do you know when one is coming? how much time do you have? >> i was -- an avalanche came off of a high shoulder, an ice avalanche. you do have a moment where you realize that things are changing rapidly. you go from thought process to automatic reaction to save yourself. looking up at the horseshoe, it was always a matter of time when that was going to release and unfortunately it came down when there was a group of sherpas working in the ice ball.
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>> with the sherpas, especially the one you summited with, how technically advanced are they? >> probably not the same as a western climber like myself, so when i go to the him lay yas, i have climbed in alaska. i have earned my merit badges. for a lot of the sherpas, it's a family type business. i have a pair of boots that fit and next thing you know they're in a climbing harness in a very dangerous place that would require a lot of knowledge to do it safely. he has technical skills there on social media.
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>> graduation, it's an exciting day. what happens when you add the
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element of surprise? a south carolina mom set to graduate with her ged, but little did she know that her son was waiting backstage. >> for his mom's graduation -- >> she had no clue whatsoever about it. >> as soon as i saw him, that was it. >> brandon was not supposed to come home until june. >> top of the next hour. we begin with breaking news in the hunt for missing malaysian flight 370. it is bizarre that the transmitters didn't activate or go off. we also have more information telling us that after the flight veered off course and made the sharp left turn, it's altitude
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went up to 39,000 feet, remained there so, i want to get our experts to weigh in on what the new information could mean. so let's get you up on today's underwater search. it is on mission number five. you know the deal there. looking for any traces, debris, wreckage. crews spent hours and hours. >> remember they are just using one blue fin to help this the search. >> turning to this, the search for survivors is turning grim and now new pictures inside the
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once singeing ship. by the looks of this, do you see anything? no. that's because this ferry has totally submerged. dead? 29? missing? 273 people. divers managed to get into the second and third floors. in the meantime we are finally getting a closer and clearer look at inside the ship. watch this, the water rushing in frightened passengers right here outside this ship with their life vests on gripping the guardrails. >> we love you. >> some of those vaped grabbed
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cell phones and hit record and we are now hearing part of that conversation. take a listen. >> we also have this. this image of the captain of this ferry caught here being rescued and leaving the ship. leaving hundreds of passengers behind. we will tell you today an arrest warrant has been issued for him
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and two other crew members. the captain was also not at the ship's helm when it started to sink. his third mate was, both of them appeared in court. the captain tried to defend his actions saying the tidal current was strong and water temperature was cold and there was no rescue boat so i had everyone on standby and wait for the rescue boat to arrive. he also said that when the accident happened he had gone to his room to briefly tend to something, direct quote from him. he then issued another apology. we are live where the passenger families are stationed. how are these families doing? >> given, you know, what we have heard about the captain, these arrest, these are things that they have wanted. these are parents who are still clinging to an ever dimming
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hope. >> hope slipping away. anger replacing grief. the news media and the government chant iing rurp themo us, they say. police officers were brought in to control the increasingly uncontrollable crowd. >> my baby is crying with fare in the sea. please save my baby.
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all of his friends are there. all of his school friends. thinking about my child in the sea, how can i as a parent eat orstring? i hate myself for this. this couple can't bear to show a picture or utter their son's name. what they need most is answers. why did the ferry capsize? why were their children told to stay put. there is still hope for your child? >> my little baby is in the sea in the dark. i worry he is shivering with fear and hunger. we need a rescue and fast. i just want him back.
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>> william taking answer. >> the sentiment here is getting increasingly desperate with each passing hour. every time that a ship comes in they all rush to it hoping there is some news. and yesterday there just wasn't. >> let me ask you since i have you on the phone all the way from south korea, just reading a little bit more today about korean culture, about the culture of guilt, reading about the vice principal who was found hanging from a tree after being rescued. tell me more about what you're learning about that. >> i can tell you what i hear over and over again this is something that parents can casually say that their life is their child, that they don't know how they can live.
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many of these only have one child. korea has a very low birthrate. many families here only have one child not because it's man daded by law but culturally they generally only have one child. here sit a personal and emotional issue. so what they have here are counselors who try to talk to the families. suicide is a major problem. you are dealing with survivor's guilt and there is growing concern about the mental health of these families especially with each passing day. >> it is excruciating to look at their faces. to try to understand what they're going through. it's interesting the point about
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only children. i mean, on the plane 370, a lot of the children or moms and dads come from single child households because they come from china. so horrible. two major stories we're following. the blue fin 21 as we continue, it is scouring the indian ocean for any sign of the 777. but can it dive deep enough or send back pictures? we will explore that. plus a possible sniper. honestly, i'm pouring everything i have into this place.
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>> welcome back. we have news just into us here on the hunt for missing malaysian air flight 370. the plane actually had four emergency locator transmitters and according to the sourt it is ord that the transmitters didn't go off or activate. so four des pratt families only add to their agony because i want to show you this. heartbroken families here on their knees praying, sobbing, pegging for answers at a prayer vigil today. they have endured 43 days offing a any. we will talk about the search here for evidence for wreckage,
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for something. and the families legal plight. but, rob, i want to begin with you, here, you know, when you hear about the news from the malaysian transport officials saying maybe they will bring in more underwater drones, maybe additional auvs? when you hear that, is that a sign of hope that they are honing in on the right spot or no? >> i think it's important that you always have a plan a but life gets more interesting when you get to plan b and the work starts at plan c. we need to continue with the pinger investigations. we should also be planning on plan b which is if this doesn't pan out and we need to go out to a broader area. which are more strategic and
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widespread in their abilities. >> you are an expert in so many days bringing up precisely that. the towed -- tell me what it is again? >> sonar -- side scan sonar is deployed one of two ways. you can put the unit on to an auv. or you can toe it on an underwater sled behind the ship. because you're running power down the cable you have a lot more strength in your signal. so blue fin is covering 15 square miles a day. we could find a deep towed unit that would do ten times that amount a day. when you bring up plans a, b, and s. my ears perked when you said plan s. what does plan c look like?
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>> i think it revolves around the information that is still coming to hand. these are lots and lots of sources of information that are coming in. some of it is new and some is old and being recalibrated. >> okay. i just want to quote you reading one of your op eds here. you write this. one group has traveled across the globe to offer assistance to the grieving families. a bias against lawyers? no. >> what a surprise.
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the real surprise, i guess, is the ole american adage. remember, these lawyers have been described as overing and descending on the scene. but what other profession advances all the costs, fees, and expert fees, millions of dollars and betting, acquiring all the risk on this case. if they recover nothing, all of that investment and risk, they could be financially devastated. and yet no other profession does that but the attorneys are maligned. >> so if it's not about money, what is it about for them? >> i never said it wasn't about money. all of this is about money. as they travel over there, yeah, do they stand to become -- of course. but every minute, make no mistake big corporation with
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potential risk in this case is constantly circling its wagons to avoid liability and there by trying to pocket millions, ma e maybe, billions of dallass, british airlines and boeing are in business to make money. >> gentlemen, few very much. when we come back, the blue fin 21 is the only auv currently searching the indian ocean. this is actually what found the air france wreckage. if you have moderate to severe rheumatoid arthritis, like me,
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>> schools, churchings, mosques, kidnapped women and can children. and now the militant move is making international headlines. again. after fierce gun battle with soldiers and militant out of their beds on to buss and sped off. only a portion of the 129 girls are safe.
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you have been to the region. you have reported on how much of a threat is this. >> it's pretty amazing now that we are hearing more and more about this group. they are very powerful. when you talk about the girls, they have gone into churches and burned people alive. their tactics are some of the most violent in the world. they have been caking on the ni nigerian government. the government ease handling of these situations further adds to some of the credibility.
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they are one of the strongest and fastest growing groups. >> is there anything the united states can do? >> this is a group that they have been watching back in november. they have been watching their links to al qaeda. they are not interested in putting any boots on the ground. a $7 million bounty which shows that they do take this extremely seriously. a lot of the fighters have gone to fight for al qaeda up to dozens have gone. so it's really an important group but at this point not one that the u.s. is directly intervening for. >> how is the economy in any year ya? >> this is what's amazing.
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it's incredibly corrupt. to me, when you are there, it comes off as the new york of africa. the energy and enthusiasm is in there. now their economy dwarfs south africa's. dwarfs. now with all of the problems itd is one of the 20 biggest economies in the world. there is this other side that people don't think of that is pretty amazing. >> erin, we will watch you tonight.
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and we have news just into cnn. prosecutors have identified the suspect caught in connection, just terrorizing people there. charged with 18 felony counts. the prosecutor says there was no evidence to suggest that all of these men were involved in highway shootings. three people were shot, none with life threatening injuries. >> coming up neck, we will take a closer look for the search for the missing plane using high resolution sonar. we will do that underwater. conrad is an incredible climber, summited mount everest, and climbed with one of the professional guides who died in
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>> bottom of the hour. i'm brooke baldwin. the blue fin 21 is what they're using. this is their surest shot. after five missions now the underwater drone might be getting help.
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>> this world war ii era plane crashed off the coast of massachusetts in 1947 for more than 50 years it remained lost on the bottom of the ocean. over a decade ago an auv discovered the missing plane. >> having the right tool is always the best kaz that you're looking for. >> this is the remus 600. a larger auv, the remus 60 found air france 447. >> at the end of the day we knew what we were doing was to try to help people answer questions about what happened. >> so with the blue fin 21, which is currently being used in the search can't find the
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missing jet? searchers could call upon the remus 6000. it can navigate in waters almost 5,000 feet deeper than the blue fin 21. >> we will be able to operate in most of the world's oceans. >> when searchers asked the u.s. government for an auv, the navy said the blue fin 21 was the only deep water vehicle it had available. after the remus auvs use side scan sonar, they usually come back with low frequency images. >> this shows up as different from the surrounding area, indicating that there is something different. >> take a look at these images taken higher frequency. >> an sb 2 c. >> here is what it looked like
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in its glory days. these also have still camera and video capabilities giving investigators perspective and a petter picture of the bottom of the ocean. >> thank you so much. now to the race to find at least four missing people on the earth's highest mountain. >> the fact he has climbed mount efrs. >> it was a pit in my stomach.
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>> the . >> help us understand. we are coming up to really the best possible window of the year for climbers to summit efrs. so these sherpas, the one you mentioned, explain to us, these are natives of the mountains. they know these mountains so incredibly well. what were they doing at the time? were they preparing the route? >> the route that they were on was pretty prepared. so the ice ball doctors put that in. so you're basically on this highway that you can go up and down on. my guess is these guys were carrying loads, stocking with
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food, fuel, and supplemental oxygen for clients. a glacier on the west shoulder cut loose and swept down and wiped them out. >> thank you again for talking to me. three of these guides are seriously injured including a sherpa in an intensive care unit in the hospital. it is one of the biggest scareyest bugs to hit the web in years, but despite a fix, your information online may still be at risk. >> plus many conservatives have spent years and years arguing against obama care, the botched roll out didn't exactly help. now the tides may be turning in the president's favor. we will explain next.
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>> yet another security breach,
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michaels says millions of customers have been impacted in a breach that lasted eight months. and laurie, i saw this this morning and thought, again? >> 3 million customers affected. what the hackers did is they targeted the point of sale system. they were able to take expiration dates on your cards. this happened between may of 2013 and january of 2014. this comes on the heels of the target hack michaels is saying we can offer up to 12 months of identity protection and credit monitoring. i thought to myself, i can't believe we are seeing this again and it's not going to be the last time. >> we all have to protect ourselves with our numbers and pin numbers and everything else.
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and as we are talking about hacking, heart bleed, where do we stand on that? >> one hacker said this is the bug that nearly broke the internet. for a while we all had to sit tight and not change our passwords because they all had to update their sites to get rid of the bug. what you can do is go to a website and type in the website and type in facebook.com and it will tell you whether or not it's safe and you can go in and change your password. when we talk about passwords, i spoke to david kennedy who is an ethical hacker, he hacks to find flaws in systems and we asked him what is the best way to make your password unhackable. >> my passwords are anywhere between 32 and 50 characters long and they are completely unique to where you will never be able to guess those.
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>> you know, he also said he uses something called a pass phrase which is a sentence that you remember. he also gave me additional tips. never use the same password. and also use a password storage program and use two step verification. where you sign in and you get a text message and you can -- it's a couple of different steps before you are able to log in. as we see, it seems like things keep getting worse. >> he had me at 32 to 50 characters. for a password? do you do that? i know i don't. >> i definitely don't. but i should and i will. >> thank you so much. when we come back we will take you live to boston. waiting for two pretty big names from the championship team. about to sit down here.
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bill clinton once said his wife wants a grandchild more than she wants to be president. more politics now. >> telling the world 8 million subscribers of obamacare, which by the way, exceeds the goal set by the white house. some conservative blogs and talk show hosts are running negative stories today. some charging that thele million figure is a scam.
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>> does this mean that republicans would be running on a gimp leg? >> i think republicans plan on running against obama care especially in states that proves it to be effective. a lot of the blue democrats such as through louisiana, arkansas, perhaps through west virginia, alaska certainly. the republicans will continue to run against obama care. the president, of course, trying to stop that, trying to put put on a positive spin, successes and achievements, certainly, the number that have enrolled is a much higher number than we anticipated. there is still a lot of questions that we don't know the answers to when it comes to the 8 million figure, we don't know how many of the individuals didn't have insurance before. it's possible that millions of
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i want to leave you with some images here from boston. we're waiting for the boston red sox because this is the first time we will hear from them, of course, ahead of marathon monday and patriots' day. they've got a couple of games this weekend. really this team instrumental in this city of boston and the notion of boston strong. the 2014 marathon will be under
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way to push the city forward. but the past is not lost in boston. cnn's deborah feyerick sat down with two of the fbi's tip top people that describe the key moments of lifting the veil in the manhunt and how it all played. >> reporter: the force of the two blasts 12 seconds apart said it all. what struck you about it? >> just the magnitude of it. it wasn't something small. it wasn't something insignificant. >> reporter: within minutes, thousands of police officers and investigators would embark on
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largest investigation in the united states. >> it was a scene of utter devastation and carnage. there was evidence strewn all over the place. >> reporter: at fbi headquarters, chief of the national security branch stephanie douglas was keenly aware of the stakes. >> we had to be concerned that there were other bombs or other co-conspirators elsewhere outside of boston. >> reporter: one killer was on the loose but where and what was next? on tuesday they identified the pressure cooker bombs similar to an al qaeda bomb-making manual. >> we were collecting pieces of shrapnel, pieces of the pressure cooker bombs, pieces of the backpacks that had been used to contain the bomb. >> reporter: a major break in the case came less than 36 hours after the attack. a couple people from our counterterrorism division came in with a laptop like this and they said, we think we know who did it. >> reporter: of the more than
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12,000 videos from businesses and marathon spectators, something unmistakable at the second blast site. >> you see a man in a white ball cap, the hat is turned around backwards, walking into the frame of the shot. >> he places that backpack down on the ground, sliding it off his shoulder. a short time later, 15 minutes later, he makes a cell phone call and after that cell phone call concludes, very shortly there after you hear the first bomb go off farther off near the finish line. he glances quickly to his left but walks diligently and deliberately to the right. about 15 seconds after he departs the view of the camera, the second bomb goes off. >> reporter: that video has never been seen by the public but is expected to be shown at the trial in november. >> what did that suggest to you when this man took a phone call and was walking away? >> that there was another
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co-conspirator. >> reporter: another crucial lead. >> this individual with the black hat walking with the white ham down boyleston street. >> we're eliciting the public's help to identify the suspects. >> reporter: hours passed and for the brothers, things were about to unravel. how important was it to you and to the bureau and to everybody else involved in the investigation that the two suspects be taken alive? >> very, very important. >> reporter: but that's not what happened. >> they have explosions, some types of grenades. they are in between houses here. shots fired. >> reporter: following an eight-minute fire fight, police arrested wounded tamerlan to the
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ground and his brother tried to free him. instead, police say he ran him over. tamerlan was fingerprinted and finally identified by name. brother dzhokhar also shot was discovered hiding in a boat after a day-long lockdown. he was less than .02 from where he had abandoned his vehicle. >> he's got a sniper's gun aimed at his head. >> that's right. we didn't know if he had weapons on him. >> reporter: dzhokhar will stand trial in november. deborah feyerick, cnn, boston. i am thrilled to head back to boston tomorrow. we will be live on patriots' day. 30,000 runners. it will be the biggest, best marathon to date in that city. we'll talk to survivors, we'll talk to some celebrity
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bostonians and talk about why the city one year later is not just boston strong. "the lead" with jake tapper starts right now. where was the captain when that south korean ship began taking its deadly plunge? where was he? i'm jake tapper. this is "the lead." the world lead. rescue crews on a deep dive to find high school students on the south korean ferry that is completely upside down and under water. it becomes too much for the high school principal who made it out but took his own life. cnn has new information about emergency beacons that were on the plane. they were made to go off on impact. why did they stay silent?