outrage. families of the students missing on the korean ferry streaming in charge of the search. more ferry operators face criminal chargers and divers find more bodies. >> that's chilling video from inside the ferry you are seeing there. it shows how students hunker down. we are going inside a simulator to show you how the conditions were as they were forced to endure there. >> the bluefin ended the search in the flight for 370 and we are learning how much longer it might be in the water.

your new day starts now. >> your new day, take a nice, deep breath to your weekend. >> i'm christi paul. >> i'm victor blackwell. >> you feel for the families. the heart break and frustration is growing as divers try to recover more bodies from the ferry this morning. >> the parents are frantic, as you would imagine asking them to raise the vessel filled with their children. diver plan 40 attempts today to get inside. the death toll is rising at 32. 272 people are still missing after the ship capsized earlier this week. >> divers did see, we understand, three bodies floating on the submerged third deck. they attempted to breakthrough the glass and couldn't get to

them. here are the latest pictures of relatives giving dna samples helping to identify anybody that is found. >> delaying evacuation though he was rescued from his own sinking ship. he feared passengers would be swept away. the ship's captain and crew members face charges. >> one is the third mate. that is who prosecutors say was at the help when the ferry capsized. let's go to paula hancox who is in south korea. tell us what you know about the crew members at this hour. >> reporter: there are five charges against the captain, himself, including negligence, abandoning the bode and causing bodily injury. if he's found guilty, he could face from five years up to life

imprisonment. he wasn't driving. he was not at the helm. he was not in the steering room at the time of the accident. also, speaking to reporters this saturday, he defended the fact he did not give the order to evacuate the ship as it was sinking.

>> the charges against the third mate at the helm at the time of the accident, one of her charges is causing injuries leading to death. back to you. >> paula, i know at this hour, the details are delicate, but the family members are now giving dna samples. is that because of an expectation that the bodies, once they are retrieved will be in such poor condition, they won't be identifiable? >> reporter: this is something, certainly, they are not spelling out at this point out of respect for the families, but we are going into the fourth night since this accident happened. of course, if bodies have been in the water that long, they want to make sure they have all the information at the ready so they can identify them as quickly as possible. these families have been waiting far too long as it is. officials want to make sure they are not left waiting longer. most of the families have given their dna samples.

they have no problem with that. they want to do anything to speed this process up. >> paula for us in jindo south korea. thank you. >> parents around other loved ones are at a gymnasium with a tv monitor showing the latest on the search. look at what they are seeing. this is hard to imagine what they are feeling like as they watch the screen. the anguish and anger as they watch divers that might find the bodies of their children. >> some of them are taking emotions out on coast guard officials. look at this. a man lashes out at the officials as they give an update. this happened earlier. we spoke with families desperate for answers. >> reporter: hope slipping away. papable anger replacing grief as

families lash out at whoever they could. the news media and the government chanting -- return them to us, they say. these families have been here since the ship went down on wednesday. police officers are brought in to control the increasingly volatile crowd. what do you expect of us says his father, whose teenage son is among the missing. he left saying, dad, i'll be back, he says. now he's in the sea. please help my baby. my baby is crying with fear in the sea. please save my baby. all of his friends are there. all his school friends. i want to jump in the sea, she says, thinking about my child in the sea, how can i, as a parent,

eat or drink? i hate myself for this. this couple can't bear to show us their son's picture or even utter his name. they and the other parents watching the live video feed of the rescue and video reports say what they need most is answers. why did the ferry capsize. why were their children told to stay put instead of escaping. are you feeling there's still hope for your child? my little baby is in the sea, in the dark. i worry he is shivering with fear and hunger. we need to rescue him fast. i don't know what to do. i just want him back. a nation's prayers from many faiths fill this port, waiting to be answered.

cnn, jindo south korea. want to get to the other big story, the search for malaysia flight 370. we learned the underwater drone that's been scanning the sea floor should complete its work in a week, which is sooner than predicted. >> officials say the bluefin-21 captured clear and sharp images of territory unchartered until now. malaysia's transportation minister says the next two days could be crucial in the hunt for the wide bodied jet. 239 people on board. today, 11 military planes, 12 ships are scouring a search zone that has been narrowed dramatically. >> the narrowing of the search for today and tomorrow is at a

very critical juncture. i appeal to everybody around the world to pray and pray hard that we find something to work on over the next couple of days. >> searchers are expected to cover 20,000 square miles today. they may have to contend with isolated showers. >> miguel marquez is at the base of the search operations in australia. the search is wrapped up. the two days the transportation minister said crucial, critical juncture. tell us about the search and what this weekend will look like. >> bluefin-21 is down for the seventh search right now. typically, it lasts 17 hours. it's probably half way through the search right now as we are in the middle of the night here. it takes four hours to download.

the malaysians and australias said the same thing. this initial search area is going to take about a week to get through. they have plowed through 50 square miles of the ocean bottom there and they have some left to go. they believe they can get to that in the next several days. they are hopeful, though, because this is where the strongest pings came from. this is where they believe the plane is most likely to be. they are hopeful they get a positive hit and they can finally end the mystery and stop the searches from the air and from the ocean surface with the ships as well. they have been scouring the skies and the ocean for days and days and days now. over 300 authorities, the planes have flown so far. >> i know the malaysian transport minister echo what had the australians said, if the

search doesn't yield anything, they may have to regroup and reconsider. do we have any indication what that means, what changes we could see? >> it means going back to the drawing board and figuring out what other areas they need to search or if there are areas they have already searched and want to look at. the bluefin can be recon figured in a couple ways. they may want to go back and look with a camera or a different software package or may decide, let's look at the next most likely place where the plane may be. it may take weeks, but, at the moment, they are operating on the assumption they will have something this week. they believe they are searching in the right play. >> miguel, we appreciate it so much. thank you. well, still to come, i wonder if you heard about this. the passengers who took off the delta jet questioned by the fbi

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>> good morning. let's get caught up on the headlines. four people remain missing in an avalanche that killed 12 guys. the avalanche struck at 20,000 feet on the world's highest peak. the others were seriously wounded. all climbers were accounted for. police arrested a suspect that started shooting at "the los angeles times" building. he didn't work for the news paper but another company in the building. he had been depressed and didn't want to go to jail. the building was on lockdown until the area was clear. >> five, four, three, two, one -- >> we've got lift off. unmanned dragon is headed to the international space station. space x launched on friday. it is carrying more than two tons of supplies and science experiences set to dock at the space station tomorrow morning.

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this morning, 11 military planes, 12 ships are scouring from the air and the sea the

area here in the south indian ocean to try to find debris from flight 370. malaysian authorities say the underwater drone should finish searching the ocean floor in a week. >> there's been no sign or sounds from the pinger. it leads them to believe the flight recorder batteries have run out. we want to bring in airlineratings.com and a former fbi agent. thank you for being with us. the sub is giving good views of the seabed. listen to what he had to say. >> i can confirm the bluefin-21 captured clear and sharp images of the seabed while conducting a search in the search area. however, from all six missions conducted, no contacts of interest have been found to

date. bluefin-21s seventh mission commenced this morning. >> if they don't find anything this week, what do they do? do they expand the underwater search area? >> as investigators they have to keep on looking as long as the weather and safety permits. they will keep mapping out the seabed and keep looking where they think this plane may be. >> jeffrey, i want to talk about this list of 26 questions from the committee of the flight 370 families. they have drawn up this list. some of the questions, most of them are quite technical. they want the flight logbook. they want to review the jet's maintenance records and listen to the recordings of the pilot's last conversations with air traffic controllers. what is the likelihood they will get any of this and why aren't

investigators releasing it? >> it's a very good question. it's extremely unlikely they will get any of that information. this information is part of the investigation and this is not normally released to anybody until such time as the investigation has issued a preliminary or you might get a second preliminary and a final report. a lot of this information is confidential and forms the basis of the final report. it will be extremely unlikely and highly unusual for these demands to be met. >> let me ask you, a lot of people are looking at the planes out there thinking, man, this air search has gone on so long and they haven't come up with anything. how long do you think they continue that focus of the search at this point and what would still be floating out there?

>> eventually, some things turn up. their shifted positions. as investigators and as we know in the past, in the large plane crashes, they keep on looking. they may go back a little bit, but until you come to an investigative resolution, you have to keep looking. they have heard nothing about the leads that have come out from looking at the background checks of the passengers and the crew. they are going to keep on looking. i think the mass amount of evidence is under water somewhere. they are going to keep on looking until they find something and hopefully, eventually, they will. >> geoffry they said today, tomorrow is very important. this is a critical juncture. help us understand why they are so important. the batteries on the pingers,

long dead, likely. no new pings detected. there's no new information. why is this weekend any more important than any other? >> this weekend is important simply because they are looking at the area of highest probability relating to those pings. we have four pings, four strong pings and two fade-out pings. they were in an area of approximately converting from kilometers to miles approximately 15 x 10 miles. they are examining the sea floor in that area. by the end of the weekend, probably by tuesday, maybe wednesday, they would have searched the entire area that is the major focus. let's bear in mind, it was the 18th bluefin mission they

finally found it. it took approximately nine days. they found it approximately six to seven miles from where they expected to find it. it's still very early days. i think we should rethink this wednesday, thursday this week. >> we'll see if that happens. again, if they don't find it, the transportation minister said they would have to consider regrouping and reconsidering the calculations. >> thank you both. >> thank you. >> thank you. we do need to point out, divers are searching for more bodies in south korea. cnns randi kaye takes us inside a ship's simulator to show what you say the harrowing moments must have been like for them. ameriprise asked people a simple question: in retirement, will you outlive your money?

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a top malaysian person called this week a crucial juncture. international call for protesters to vacate seized buildings in ukraine. he's calling on the government in kiev to step aside. a spokesman defends the 40,000 troops saying russia won't be, quote, treated like a schoolgirl. >> a man is being held on a $1 million cash bond. he is charged with 18 felony counts. court documents say he fired a .38 caliber pistol from his car. a break came when someone found boxes of ammo on the road and his fingerprints were on them. they need more time whether to approve the keystone pipeline project. they are submitting

recommendations on it. they want to wait until the nebraska supreme court has a route through the state. the obama administration is deliberately delaying the approval. number five, miley cyrus fans, a sad morning for you. she postponed the remainder of the her tour dates to august. she tweeted this picture. she's being treated for severe allergic reaction to antibiotics after falling ill with flu-like symptoms this week. let's talk about south korea. we are getting new numbers in right now. the death toll climbing. >> it stands at 32 and more than 270 people are still missing. here are the latest developments in the search and rescue developments. 40 attempts today to try to get back inside the ferry. the ferry capsized on wednesday. earlier today, divers saw three

bodies floating on the ship's submerged deck. they have been able to retrieve two of the bodies. passengers relatives are giving dna samples to help identify those found. >> the captain says he delayed an evacuation order because he feared passengers would be swept away. what could the people on board have been experiencing when the ship began to list? >> randi kaye visited a ship simulator to help us understand more. >> reporter: as the ferry took on water, a loud speaker warned passengers to stay where they are. >> don't move. if you move, it is more dangerous. don't move. >> reporter: this cell phone video shows people staying in place. those who ignored the warning got out alive. >> translator: kids were forced to stay put. only those who moved survived.

>> reporter: the captain says the passengers should have been moved to upper decks. is there something a passenger should do? >> go to a higher deck, where you can exit the vessel. generally speaking, you are saver on the vessel until you assess yes, the vessel is going to sink. you need to evacuate. >> reporter: a blanket warning of don't move doesn't make sense to you? >> not to me. >> reporter: when the ferry took on water, alarms like these would have sounded immediately. they wouldn't indicate if they hit a rock or there had been an explosion nor specify where the water is coming in. >> various alarms, emergency signals, trying to contact various crew to do assessments. >> reporter: they believe the ferry ran off course due to foggy weather. the ship may have made a sharp turn to get on track. >> the danger is not

overcorrecting, the danger is getting to the point of no return. >> reporter: we can simulate the rescue operation under way. they are dealing with heavy rains, high winds, rough seas. you can see the rescue ships out there and the choppers above. looking at these conditions, it's easy to understand why it's so difficult for the rescuers to get inside the ferry to see if anyone is there, still alive. alive and perhaps in air pockets in the ship. neither time, nor temperature are on their side. randi kaye, cnn, baltimore. another big story we are covering is the pushback and defiance after diplomats reached the deal to ease tensions in ukraine. the question here is, is the u.s. doing enough to halt the crisis and should leaders be doing more? >> in a few minutes, we are going to head under the sea with martin savidge to talk about what it's going to take to comb the wreckage of flight 370, when

and if it's found.

20 minutes to the top of the hour. there's a call for prorussian militants to leave illegally ceased buildings in ukraine. it is falling on deaf ears. >> they agreed to a deal in geneva to halt the escalating violence. but they are facing pushback from protesters calling on the government in kiev to resign.

good to have you this morning. >> good morning. >> russia has to take concrete action if the deal is going to succeed. my question, initially, is, what impact, what influence, rather u does president putin have over the leader and what can he do and what should he do? >> victor, i think putin has almost complete control and influence over activities taking place in eastern ukraine. this would stop immediately if putin raised his hand. you are out of bounds. this is putin talking. you have mistaken what's taken place in crimea, cease. that's not what putin thinks. the annexation of crimea is the next step. putin can do what he wants.

the issue is, if he is interested and the united states and international community can go to putin and say, look, we are very, very serious about this. we have instituted a number of economic sanctions and we will continue to apply pressure and crush you economically as west you can. that has a long tail. it doesn't have immediate effect. if nothing happens immediately and there are military options, there can be military pressure that does not include boots on the ground. have a presence of boots on the ground. i would handicap that at zero. the united states with the european leaders need to look putin in the eye and bring military presence to bear, ground forces exercising, working together and increased presence in the black sea with the united states and nato powers, increased nato presence, secure communications.

victor, there are a number of things that could take place that are not taking place that would convince putin to take the initial step to demand they stop. >> general moss, let me ask you about something in the new york times. they are planning modest military drills. what kind of message do you think the u.s. is trying to send not only to russia, but nato members who are worried about russia's actions? >> clearly, you have to communicate domestically. an increase of military activity in the baltic region is important. it needs to be in such a way -- in fact, we could invite the russians to participate as observers. embrace them and say look at what we are trying to do and understand this is something we do as a matter of routine with

partners, we maintain alliances and keep them strong. we bolster that. hey, folks, if you don't want this occurring someplace that is damaging to you, get in line. i think it's very important that take place right now. >> most americans think is best way the u.s. can deal with the crisis is through the sanctions, economic, political means. we have the latest from the poll numbers, 46% favor sanctions. 46% believe the u.s. should not get involved at all. 7% favor the military force. question here, do you think the angsts are working and will work? >> i think they will work, that's exactly correct. there's a time lag. there's going to be a response. there will be pain, you hope. that will occur over the course of time. what we have seen with crimea is if putin wants to achieve an

objective, he can in a short amount of time. crimea has been annexed. it belongs to russia. last month, it didn't. the effects of long tailed economics of power, additional economic sanctions will take place over time. there has to be something that can force putin to make -- to alter what he's doing right now in the very short term. >> general marx, we are going to speak with you more in the next hour. thank you for joining us. >> thank you, folks. >> thank you. coming up on "new day," martin savidge is going through things to see what flight 370 looks like. i understand your view is spectacular. >> isn't it a gorgeous background? this is british columbia. whether you are using a

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good morning to you. i'm meteorologist jennifer gray to get you ready for your holiday weekend. unfortunately, we have showers to deal with. we dealt with the rain all day yesterday from atlanta up to the carolinas. you can see, still raining in

north carolina. raleigh, still getting it pretty good this morning. what a soaker. we are dealing with a tornado watch in effect for south florida until 10:00 this morning. this includes miami, ft. lauderdale up to west palm beach. lake okeechobee is getting rain this morning. the rain is going to stick around and hug the coastline for the next 24 hours or so. yes, even easter morning, raining around the outer banks. raleigh, you could be dealing with the rain, charlotte, you, too for easter morning. we are looking at rainfall totals through sunday for the outer banks of more than four inches. it is going to be a soaker for easter weekend. we are going to see rain across portions of the rockies and the plains as we go through your easter as well. the best places to be will be along the gulf coast and the northeast for tomorrow. we have the threat of severe

weather tomorrow as well. large hail, damaging wind and isolated tornadoes for lubbock and del rio. west texas, be on the lookout for that. a lot of people heading to boston for the marathon. the weather could not be better, guys. 65 degrees on monday for the runners. the high temperature for the morning start of 44. not bad. >> cloud cover, i see there. >> cloud cover keeping cooler. >> here, i don't know. >> when did you start running? >> i don't. jennifer gray, thank you. >> thanks, jen. all righty, we want to get back to the search for flight 370. martin savidge is helping us understand debris recovery. breaking the surface is no easy fete. he's in a submersible. it's suspended by a crane above

the water. the sub dips down and has to be unhooked bay diver, then begins the long decent. martin, how is it going? >> reporter: morning victor. morning christi. i'm with phil newton. he knows so much about underwater recovery. what we wanted to show is essentially what would happen in a deep sea recovery as they try to retrieve the black boxes or whatever material they need. they are going to run across obstacles and they could be many. in this scenario we set up, it's wire and wire that has to be cut through. tell us -- well, let's do it and tell us as we go. >> we are going to sever the wire with a hydraulic cutter. we are going to handle it manually, but normally, it's run by a high pressure hydraulic

unit. >> jeff, in the back, is going to start cutting it manually. >> he's pumping and cutting. there is slowly something closing on that cable out there. >> it is. i'm going to energize it. jeff, crank up the hpu. we are hot on the manipulator. he is closing on that cutter. i'll move that piece of cable out of the way with the manipulator once it's cut there. >> what this points out is all of this has to be done carefully, procedurely and above all, it takes time. if there's just one cable, that's just one to be cleared. there could be many. when they say underwater recovery work takes a long time, here is a perfect example of that. we are going to try it to see if it cuts. there it is. it severs. you pull it away and now you

have cleared what was one potential obstacle. then you get ready to move on to the next one. here is the other problem that comes with the moving on to the next one. jeff, what i'm going to ask you to do is lift is on. jeff, the pilot, he's going to announce like top cyber lifting off. then you are going to see something that is going to be a problem. >> it will happen now. we engage the thrusters, the bottom gets a tremendous blast of water from the vertical thrusters and stirs up the bottom. every time you move, whether it's with an r.o.v. or a sub like there th where there's a lot of bottom set. there's a huge cloud. it's enveloping us now. if we were just moving a few feet, we have to wait for the entire cloud to setting down before we can see what we are

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the current was very high and the water temperature was cold. >> the korean ferry captain defending the order to delay evacuation despite criminal charges. the family of the missing are calling for answers as the death count rises overnight. a critical juncture is what malaysian officials are calling the next two days for the search of flight 270. the results of the latest mission and the plan for the phase ahead. an international deal reached for ukraine. at what point does the united states level more sanctions against russia and who will blink first? your new day continues right now. we are going to help you out with the time. we are on edge at 7:00 on a saturday morning.

so grateful for your company. i'm christi paul. >> i'm victor blackwell. this is "new day" saturday. we have more information on the divers going into the sea looking for survivors of the ferry catastrophe. >> so far, they are only finding more bodies. the official death toll has risen and sits at 32. more than 270 people are still missing three days after the ferry capsized. a lot of those missing are high school students who were on a field trip at the time. >> the vice principal who was on the ship hanged himself. the passenger families are giving dna samples to identify anyone found. the captain was among those rescued. he and two other crew members have been arrested and face charges this morning. >> 40 dive attempts are being

placed to get inside the ferry. >> let's bring in paula hancox in jindo, south korea. paula, i understand you got a firsthand look those search operations today. what did you see? >> reporter: that's right, victor, we were on a boat earlier. we got 300 feet away from the area where this ferry had sunk. there were two large inflatables on the surface of the water. without those, you would not have known there was a 6800 ton ferry beneath the water. it was difficult to see anything. there was nothing visible of the ferry. it's murky, looking from the top. it's very challenging from the bottom. looking around me as i was there, there were at least 120 vessels around ranging from the very large national warships to

the small local vessels, everybody trying to help if they think there's a chance of finding survivors. divers managed to get into the third flood today. we know the death toll has risen because they have got into a new area. certainly, overnight, they are going to continue to get into those areas they haven't got to yet. this is the fourth night since that ferry sank. >> can you talk to us about the charges it captain and other crew members are facing and the fact the captain was not at the helm when it happened, does that dilute his liability in any way? >> reporter: well, he wasn't at the helm. he wasn't even in the steering room, we are hearing from the police. the fact was that the third mate was at the helm. we know he's facing five charges, at this point. among them, negligence, abandoning boat and causing bodily injury. he faces five years up to life

imprisonment. as for the thirst mate. this is a woman that will be charged with negligence that led to the ship's sinking and causing injuries leading to death. they are both charged, which is not a surprise to anybody. both of them managing to get off the ship. many are criticizing the captain to be one of the first rescued, the first off the ship. the captain should always be one of the last to get off the ship, making sure the passengers are safe. >> paula, when does it have to be apparent to sympathize with the parents waiting on the search, having put their children on the boat for a fun trip with friends. can you paint a picture of where they are, what they are feeling and their response to this search? >> it is just a heart breaking scene here at the harbor, you have dozens of relatives, dozens of parents.

overnight, they sit by the side of the water and look out behind me. you can see, it's black. they can't see anything. they are 12 miles away from where that ferry sank. they are looking out to the water, wondering if their child is going to come back to them. it is a devastating time for them. it is a heart breaking event to have happened. it is the fact, also, it is taking so long for them to get word about their children. the heart break and the frustration is turning to anger in many occasions. they simply don't think they are getting the information quickly enough. they don't think that the security and the safety officials are managing to get inside the boat quickly enough. as i said, this is the fourth night they are waiting here, just up the road and also inside an auditorium being briefed screaming questions at them. one woman screaming over and over, are they alive or dead? just the basic question could

not be answered at this point. >> they are planning at least 40 dive attempts today to try to bring back those inside the ferry. thank you. now to the other big story, the search for malaysia airline flight 370. we just learned the underwater drone that's been scanning the sea floor should be complete with its work in a week. it's sooner than many experts predicted. >> malaysia's transport minister said the next two days could be crucial in the hunt for the jet. 11 military planes and jets are scouring a search zone. >> miguel marquez is at the base of the operations in perth, australia. explain why today and tomorrow are this crucial, this critical juncture, why they are so important in this search.

>> reporter: well, those are the words of the malaysian defense minister. the next coming days, i think the next two days is too specific. the bluefin-21 is down for the seventh search now and will continue to go down for 16 hours, come back up and continue the searches in an area they believe is the most likely to contain some wreckage of mh 370. that could be over the next couple days, it could be over the next week. they believe they will have that complete area mapped. why he's saying the next two days are important may be a figure of speech. victor? christi? >> they echoed what the australians said, if the search doesn't yield anything, they have to regroup and reconsider. do we know what it translates

to? do they start over? >> well, look, it's a large area where they got all the teams from, where they are searching now is where they have the strongest ping and was the most likely area where they believed flight mh 370 went down. if they don't find it in this immediate area where they are searching now, they have to go back to the drawing board literally and figure out the next area they have to search. victor? christi? >> miguel for us in perth australia. thank you. passengers get taken off a delta jet. i don't know if you heard about this. they are questioned by the fbi. can you imagine if that was you? what they found that prompted this scare. [ aniston ] when people ask me what i'm wearing, i tell them aveeno®.

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a bomb threat written on a note prompted a security screening in denver. the plane with 157 people on board landed safely yesterday afternoon. >> the fbi questioned passengers at a remote airport location and allowed the majority of them to go on their way. we do not know if they are holding anybody, but their vergeage was, the majority of them have been alawed to go. >> abandoning his boat, negligence, not seeking refuge. those are the charges the ferry captain faces. >> if convicted, he could go to prison for life. jeff is joining us from miami. thank you for being with us. >> hi, christi. >> hi. good morning to you. how valid are these charges and how much trouble is he really in, considering the fact he was

not at the helm of this ship when it started to take that turn? does that help him or hurt him that he wasn't there? >> you know, it probably hurts him that he wasn't there, if something critical was happening and if that was a critical moment in the navigation of the ship. the fact that the captain is not at the helm is not necessarily a big deal. i mean, the captain of a vessel does not have to be at the helm 24/7. in a 13 1/2 hour voyage, there should be breaks and rest time. the question is, was it a critical time for him to be there? the real big question, though, is not whether he was at the helm at the time that the vessel either struck something or made a sharp turn. the real question is, why did he not stay on board and not go down with the ship but supervise

until every accounted for passenger was off the vessel? that is a crime under korean law and that is arguably a violation of international law, although, there is no specific, there's no specific provision in the international law that the safety of life at sea convention says the captain has to be on the vessel at all times. it's recognized, the captain is the master of the vessel and in charge of all people on the vessel at all times. if you are in charge of people and in charge of safety, how can you administer safety? how can you supervise the operations if you are not on the vessel? >> if you are not there. another thing, jack, that i think confused some and angered others was the decision to tell people to stay in place. he says because he thought they

were going to be swept away. how do you rate the validity of that argument? >> i don't think that there's any validity to that argument. that's a good question. you know, this is like the costa concordia where there were mixed signals. signals right away from the bridge. who knows whether it's from the captain were to stay in place, as it was here, as the message was here. you are talking to teenagers, a lot of teenagers who some of them, a lot of them, most of them, obeyed those instructions. that was, as we see here, that was the wrong message to send. he should have been, the captain should have been, a, assess the damage immediately and b, get people to the muster stations. that's why we have these drills, to get people to the stations to muster them or gather them so they can be put into the

lifeboats and safely off the side of the vessel. >> he wasn't at the helm. he left the ship and he gave awful instructions at the end of the day that turn out to be fatal for so many of these families. what's his defense going to be? >> well, his defense is going to be that, you know, gee, there was nothing i could have done at the helm of the vessel. that doesn't really bother me, the fact that the captain is not at the helm, unless, of course, again, unless it was a critical factor like "exxon valdez." he was leaving the port and navigating through a very narrow channel, captain hazelwood, in that situation should have been at the helm and he wasn't. other than that, a very critical time in the navigation of the vessel, i don't think that's a big deal, necessarily. so, that's one defense there. as far as the, you know, i

wasn't on the vessel the whole time when the passengers were getting off is practically indefensible. frankly, it's indefensible and under korean law is a crime. that's indefensible. >> all right. jack, thank you so much for walking us through what all this means. we appreciate you being with us. >> thank you, jack. >> thank you. the hunt for flight 370 is, as we know, and officials said, far from over. if they do not find anything in the current search area, will they look in other parts of the indian ocean? ameriprise asked people a simple question: can you keep your lifestyle in retirement? i don't want to think about the alternative. i don't even know how to answer that. i mean, no one knows how long their money is going to last. i try not to worry, but you worry. what happens when your paychecks stop? because everyone has retirement questions. ameriprise created the exclusive confident retirement approach.

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oh, what a close call. watch this. residents in southern new mexico after a powerful 7.2 earthquake struck the struck new mexico. it was 170 miles away from the epicenter. because the quake occurred at a shallow depth, damage was min numb. >> this morning, 11 military planes, 12 ships, they are scouring the air and sea in hopes of finding debris from flight 370. malaysian authorities say the underwater drone should finish searching the ocean floor in a week. >> there's been no sign of the missing plane or signals from the pinger. that leaves investigators to believe the batteries have most

likely run out. let's bring in a former fbi agent. thank you for being with us. we are going to start with you. this bluefin device is giving us, apparently, they say some of the crispest, clearest pictures we have seen in a part of the ocean we have never explored before. this is unprecedented. what do you think is the most significant thing we can find from this search, besides the plane? >> well, christi, as you were saying, this is a part of the ocean we have never explored to my knowledge. it's off the beaten path. the bluefin sonar should perform exceptionally well seeing what's down there. it will be interesting to see what they are seeing, is it flat bottom, rubble, is there something that would be of interest to a geologist? those are things that are probably for later study. the real focus, still, is

finding the debris field where they are targeting right now. hopefully they get some object of interest here soon so they can begin to happen out one, well, first so they can, you know, sort of put finality for the families on the answer to what happened with the flight and begin the recovery operation. >> we are six weeks into this. not as much as a carry on or seatbelt or anything from this plane. what is your degree of confidence in the ability to find something, some debris, considering the activity of this part of the ocean? >> good morning, victor. i do think it's just a matter of time. they will find something. it may take months, it may take longer than months. the international effort is a good, strong effort. there's a lot of countries helping out. the most modern technology we

have used in hunting underwater. it's a matter of time. right now, there is almost little investigative leads as to what caused this or who caused this, if it was, you know, an intentional act. the effort of looking for anything under water will give us the investigators the evidence they need so the families can find some level of comfort as to what happened and we can also find out what happened so it doesn't happen again. >> okay, let's say that the bluefin does find the black boxes. what happens at that point? >> so, the lead they are waiting on is to find what they would call an object of interest, which is a return on the sonar that says there's something unusual, something manmade where we don't expect it. they will do two things. an expanding square or circle

search to see the size. then they will take optical pictures so you can see what you are looking at. that will map out the debris field and tell investigators where it is. the bluefin by itself cannot pick anything up. they have to get additional equipment, the r.o.v.s we have talked about to go in and pick up objects like the black box and things the investigators will need to determine what happened on that airplane. >> you mentioned in the last answer this international group, this international force is very strong. but, if the malaysians will have to regroup and reconsider, as they suggested, if they don't find something, do you think the majority of the countries, not the u.s., not australia and china because they are in for the long haul, we believe. the other countries will say you have led us to this point and

narrowed it down, now, we have to back out because we are not sustain a search at this level. do you think they will stay with them? >> the southeast asian politics, all the countries have been working with the malaysians. a lot of them have passengers on the plane. i think there will be a lot of diplomatic efforts and try to keep the coalition together. there may be other things, give and take, that take place. there's a lot of interest to find this plane. i think they will continue to work toward trying to find the plane. some countries may put in a bigger effort. others a lesser effort. i think the malaysians will do all they can as they should to keep a strong effort to find this plane so they can have leads as to what caused this. >> all right. thank you both so much for being with us. >> thank you. >> thank you. another part of the world, ukraine, the tensions there escalating. it is a waiting game for the white house.

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how's the breakfast this morning? hope it's waking you up. welcome back at half past the hour now, which equates to 7:30, if you haven't looked at the clock. i'm christi paul. >> at least in the east. number one, the death toll rising in the south korean ferry. it's now at 32 with 270 people missing. most of them, young high school students. it's now even in south korea. divers plan to continue to search more areas of the ferry overnight. >> the underwater drone scanning the sea floor should complete its work within a week, which is sooner than predicted. officials say it captured clear and sharp images of previously

uncharted territory. a top malaysian official called the next two days a critical juncture. >> they need more time to approve the keystone pipeline project and it's delaying the deadline for agencies to submit their recommendations on the issue. they want to wait until the nebraska supreme court settles a dispute. number four, funeral services were held for the victims of sunday's juish community shooting. hundreds of mourners packed a church to honor reat underwood and his grandfather. he was taken to a singing competition when they were killed. a white supremacist was -- the dragon is carrying

supplies to the space station. it's expected to dock tomorrow morning. just days after top diplomats agreed to a deal ordering militants to lay down their arms and vacate seized buildings, separatists are pushing back and refusing to leave. >> they want the government in kiev. how is the administration responding to this? >> well, victor and christi, the white house is taking a wait and see approach to this. they are trying to see if the diplomatic agreement reached on thursday will stick. it's not the case on the situation on the ground, where it does not seem to be reflecting that. the president has called, of course, for russia to prove they are serious about the agreement. that includes reigning in the pro-russian separatists.

he warned if they won't, the u.s. and allies will step up with additional pressure. it's clear they are not there, yet. i want to show the latest of what the state department is saying. >> i will say, we are clear about russia's record of not implementing steps in the past so we will see if they do take steps this time. if they don't take steps, there will be consequences. i'm not going to put a date on that. we won't know for a couple of days. >> secretary of state kerry spoke on the phone last night with the prime minister of ukraine and the russian foreign minister. he called for implementation of the agreement. ukraine agreed to give amnesty to a pro-russian separatist. that is supposed to take ifect today. secretary kerry called the next few days very pivotal. back to you. >> let me ask you, what are

congressional republicans saying about this? >> great question. for the first time, we saw one high level republican of tennessee, the highest ranking on the senate relations committee. he called for the united states to give lethal aid to them. here is what he said. >> i think it's time to consent antitank weaponry, antitank weaponry. obviously, russia is going to far outman them. we need to make sure they are going to pay a price if they come in. i think it's time for us to look at doing that. >> many other republicans in the congress are calling for the white house to really ramp up the pressure on russia to start putting additional sanctions in place and not take the wait and see approach. back to you. >> all right. appreciate it. thank you. >> the question is, what is russia's end game and is the

u.s. doing enough to help solve the crisis? let's bring in general spider marks. >> thank you for being with uls. >> my pleasure, thanks. >> sure. according to nato, they are about 40,000 russian troops at the ukraine border. the deal reached in geneva didn't touch that. general marx, do you think that was a mistake? >> i think russia certainly has the authority to conduct exercises which these are. they have a strong strategic message they are sending to ukraine and the rest of the world they mean business. they are overwatching the events in eastern ukraine and greater ukraine itself. we certainly need to pay attention to that. when grow back to 2002 and 2003, the united states and coalition partners created a large force in kuwait before we moved into iraq.

what's dissimilar right now? i don't know there is much of a difference. it's extremely important to watch that very, very carefully and send a strong message to putin and he shouldn't be provocative. he could back off now in terms of those exercises and that would lower the tensions. >> ambassador burns, i want to ask you about what they said suggesting that the international community should supply ukraine with anti-tank, anti-aircraft weaponry. what is your thought on shifting from sanctions, from a diplomatic effort to that support? >> well, sanctions really haven't worked. they have been modest so far. they haven't caught the attention of putin. the only leverage we have here is major sectorial sanctions. if the united states and europe impose those on russia, that drives up the cost of president putin.

he's counting on divisions between the europeans and americans and they do exist to fore stall that. military aid in the ukraine makes sense. we have to also send a signal to president putin, we are willing to support the continuation of the kiev government. the other thing that makes sense is deploying forces. the administration is planning to do that at a very small level, a company level. still, we have to pushback against putin, not militarily, but through sanctions and military assistance to ukraine to let him know there's a cost to what he's doing. right now, he doesn't feel that cost. that's one of the reasons he's been so aggressive. >> ambassador, let's talk about the leaflets showing up in ukraine. the leaflets ordering jews to register themselves and their property to these pro-russian militias.

that sent alarm bells up to everybody. it was so disturbing to everyone watching, really, worldwide. what do you make of what happened there earlier this week and how does that, and ethnic tensions do that in this case? >> it's certainly objectionable given the history of what happened to the jews in eastern europe in the 1940s during the holocaust. the russian government denies knowing about this. the russians say they know nothing about the leaflets. they say they don't have control over the russian separatists. right now, we know since the agreement reached with secretary kerry on thursday with geneva, the russian government isn't trying to persuade the ethnic russians, the armed men from leaving the buildings. the russians have to takery responsibility to what's happening.

there's an abundance that the russian government is involved in with the violence and encouraging these young men to take the buildings. again, there's got to be a stronger pushback by europe and the united states against what putin is trying to do. >> general marks, i want to read this to you. it's from a cnn op-ed. here is a portion of it. fortunately, full blown civil war in ukraine seems unlikely because one side, the ukrainian government is unable and unwilling to fight. it's not hard to sketch a scenario which war is an outcome and invision a further scenario which is u.s. finds itself drawn into a direct confrontation. what do you make of that assessment? >> very unfortunate if that were the outcome. going back to what they

indicated, if the united states declared that activities in ukraine are in our national interest, in some way, to not only track and to make sure that we can identify but also in a way that we can shape and try to create an outcome that's going to be successful for the european union for nato and the united states. there are many things we have to do to put immediate pressure on putin or the inevitable outcome is putin retained freedom of action and ukraine through this i instigation on putin's part. let's be frank, they have no military ability that can counter what putin wants to do and others are trying to instigate. it really is very, very important that the united states understand they have to apply pressure across all elements of power to get immediate effects

so putin feels it pressure and understands we are going to apply influence as broadly and as viciously and aggressively as we can because this is unacceptable. the precondition is the united states say this is is international interest. >> if the u.s. were to supply the lethal aid, the anti-aircraft and anti-tank, you think they are outmanned even if we give them that? >> totally. i agree that's the right stuff to give. there is some support militarily that can be provided. we shouldn't be in the business of removing options of priority, which is what the administration has done. >> thank you both. >> thank you so much. >> thank you. >> thank you. so, take a look outside your window. it might not look like that tomorrow for easter. apparently, there's nasty weather out there.

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breaking news 15 minutes before the hour now. a suspected u.s. drone strike killed 15 people, 12 of them al qaeda suspects and three civilians. this happened in central yemen.

>> this is a stronghold of the extremist group. the jihadists were traveling in a vehicle and the three civilians passing in another car. earlier this week, a chilling video of al qaeda fighters meeting in that region with their leader surfaced on the internet. this is that same area, we understand. >> we have barbara starr with us. barbara is on the phone. okay, barbara, can you tell us the importance of this, obviously, is just a few days ago, we saw a large meeting, a video and now this strike. there were questions about if u.s. officials knew anything about that happening. now, we are getting this news. what have you learned? >> good morning to both of you. the information just coming in now. a lot to check on. u.s. officials here in washington certainly, have not yet commented on this strike. the word is coming out of yemen. now, it is interesting that

meeting, that video of about 100 al qaeda people with their leader in yemen, that was made, it is believed, last month, although it just surfaced and we were the first to show it on broadcast news. whether this is tied to that or not, we just simply don't know. what we do know is that the united states and the government of yemen have been working together, combing through all their information and getting drone strikes against them when they can when they agree to do it. it's going to take some time, perhaps, to figure out and get confirmation of whom they might have gotten in this strike. they have to get people on the ground at some point, intelligence or confirmation of

who was killed. what's so compelling about the video tape we all watched is you have maybe 100 al qaeda fighters out there meeting in the open for some length of time and not seeming very concerned that there would be a drone strike against them. so, maybe there's been new intelligence since that video was shot that allowed the u.s. to go after some of these people. >> okay. when do you think we may hear reaction to the strike? reaction from capitol hill or the white house? >> typically, because these are so sensitive, because it is either going to be the pentagon or the cia that carried out the strike so it's going to be a classified intelligence operation. you typically don't see a lot of very specific public reaction from the administration. we are checking with our sources

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now. >> it is your day. your saturday. hopefully you can maybe the best of it. we hope. i'm christi paul. >> i'm victor blackwell. 8:00 on the east coast and 5:00 out west. we begin with breaking news this morning. a suspected u.s. drone strike has killed 15 people, 12 of them al qaeda suspects, three civilians in central yemen. >> this is the stronghold group. the terrorists were traveling in a vehicle. three civilians passing in another car. this is the same region where a chilling video of al qaeda fighters meeting with their leader surfaced on the internet just recently. we want to bring in cnn law enforcement analyst tom fuentes and our correspondent barbara starr. tom, talk us through the significance of the strike.

>> reporter: when we talk about a drone strike in yemen, what we are really talking about these days is it is either the pentagon on defense department or cia. these are some of the most sensitive, classified missions they undertake. right now, no one in washington is commenting on all of this. we are reaching out to all of our sources. the information from the yemeni government is these people were killed. the interesting thing is among the killed were three senior al qaeda fighters. how senior we don't know. leadership of the group? we don't know. what was so interesting about the video is we saw, you know, 100 plus fighters plus their leader all together outside and very calm and very relaxed, apparently in no fear of being caught. if they were now traveling some of the leadership together, that would be an extraordinary breach

of their own security because they know they are most vulnerable when they are in vehicles. that's when these drone strikes tend to happen, when they are on the move in vehicles. why is that? that is because how the u.s. can most readily identify their only getting militants and limit civilian casualties. they may not have been able to do it in this case, but they tried. that is why they go after them in a convoy vehicle. we have to see how this sorts out and who they have. >> tom, are there any indications of the timing or cnn airing of the meeting or video that indicate to you that the drone strike reported today is connected to that meeting and those specific members of al qaeda? >> good morning, victor. we don't know that for a fact and i know much was made when barbara starr earlier reported the first video of why no drone

strikes. i was thinking it would be a good possibility there may have been agents, possibly saudi or others that may have infiltrated that meeting and authorities did not want to get their own people killed because they were providing valuable intelligence staying in the group at that time. now they possibly separated to some extent and in smaller clusters of terrorists, that they are more prone to being struck now. there might have been the first meeting a great intelligence gathering opportunity for the authorities for the u.s. and yemenis and now they are taking advantage out what of they got from the first meeting and intelligence from the first opportunity. >> barbara, how imperative are these videos and behind the scenes to what is happening at the pentagon and department of

defense and cia? >> reporter: what with a so extraordinary about that video and we had not seen that in so long, it is such a large gathering. i had talked to a number of sources and nobody could remember in recent years seeing such a large gathering. this is a part of yemen that is a stronghold for them. it is very remote and very isolated. not a lot of people live there. very underpopulated. they had a place where they felt safe. one source called it the tora bora of yemen. the mountains and hideout of osama bin laden at one point. how many people got together and how sure they were not going to come under attack. the drone strikes right now are very sensitive and the fundamental issue for the cia for the pentagon right now, when

they want to do one of these strikes, they have to demonstrate to the white house under the rules, everyone they are going after presents a threat to the united states. the president has made it very clear, he wants everything done to limit civilian casualties. if they go after large groups, everybody has to be a threat. and that also is what makes this strike potentially interesting. if they went after a target of about a dozen or more people, how did they know they were all a threat? had they been tracking them? had they been watching them before they took this hit? >> tom, quickly to you, we run out of time. if one of these three senior members of al qaeda in the arabian peninsula was one of the leaders, you think they would isolate that and not just three senior members? >> i think they will confirm that. it will take a while for them to

examine the bodies and do dna analysis. they will confirm it if it was true. >> okay. barbara starr, tom fuentes, thank you as well. >> thank you. hundreds of parents, right now, waiting for any word of the fate of their children who have been missing since that ferry tipped over on wednesday. >> and you just see it in them. the grief and their desperation. some of them, you know, still hoping but their hope is fading right now. we know that divers at this moment are heading back into the frigid murky water off the south korean coast and trying to get back inside the sunken ferry. they were able to get inside the vessel yesterday and retrieve three bodies. >> that brought the death toll now to 32. it could rise much higher because more than 270 people are

still missing. the captain, his third mate and crew technician, all of whom were rescued from the ferry are under arrest. they face charges. prosecutors say the third mate was at the helm when the ship capsized. the captain said he stepped away for a moment. >> of course, the search continues and the families now of the missing are giving dna samples to try it help identify anyone found. >> we want to bring in cnn's paula hancocks in jindo. i understand you got a look at the operations today. what did you see? >> reporter: christi, we got

about 300 feet away from the area where this ferry actually sunk. there were just two large inflatables on the surface of the water marking the spot where it was. that was the only way you would have known there was a 6,800-ton ferry under the water. there were more than 100 vessels ranging from the very large war ships and helicopter ships and also some very small local fishing ships. everybody is trying to get involved in the hope there may be some survivors under the water. now the above the water, there was not too much activity. it did not look like an urgent search and rescue operation. what is happening below the water is more important. we saw a number of dinghys with divers on board. they have tried to get inside today to get to the third floor. later on this afternoon, when we went back to the same area, the weather conditions had deteriorated significantly.

we could not see anymore of the divers. the swell had increased, the water currents, according to the captain on our boat, were dangerous. it shows how difficult the weather conditions have been and how they are making the rescue operation stop/start. >> paula, charges have been filed against the captain and crew and third mate. tell us more about the charges. >> reporter: victor, there are five charges against the captain himself. bear in mind, the captain wasn't at the helm. he wasn't in the steering room. the charges are negligence and causing bodily injury and abandoning the boat. he was one of the first to be rescued. it is traditionally to be the last to leave the boat. he was defending what he had done today. he was defending the fact he did not tell people to abandon ship. saying he was worried because there were no rescue boats in

sight. the third mate, a woman was at the helm, she was caused with injuries leading to death and which led the ship to sinking. it wasn't her fault that the ship did make that sharp detour saying, quote, the steering turned much more than usual. back to you. >> paula hancocks in jindo, south korea. thank you. the divers are facing tough conditions as they get back inside the sunken ferry. we will talk with a navy captain here on cnn's "new day." also, the search for flight 370 may soon be over, but are investigators closer to finding anything about the black boxes or the wreckage or anything the night that plane vanished. yea. try alka seltzer fruit chews. they work fast on heart burn and taste awesome.

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let's talk about the search for malaysia airline flight 370. we are just learning in the past couple of hours that the underwater drone scanning the sea floor will complete the work in about a week. that is sooner than expected. >> the drone has captured clear and sharp pictures of uncharted territory until now. it has not found evidence of the plane. the foreign minister says this could be crucial in the hunt for the plane. he said if the search does not yield anything in the next two days, this is important, they have to rroup and reschedule. >> the search zone has been narrowly -- i should say has been narrowed drastically. they are expected to cover

20,000 square miles today. they will have to contend with showers which is hampering efforts to scan the sea floor. >> let's talk about the critical junction. van gurley is a former oceanographer. fred, i'll start with you. the bluefin is looking at the unexplored part of the indian ocean. is this hampering the efforts to find the plane considering we know so little about the portion of the indian ocean? >> the bluefin is a high level of technology that is being used right now for the recovery efforts for the vehicle. and by using that, it gives me the impression they have a pretty high degree of confidence that they're operating the

bluefin in the area they want to be in. in the beginning, we heard they were not sure of the water depths and they brought in a ship, the hms echo. the hms echo has a multibeam sonar. you can imagine it like your satellite view. looking down and giving you the high level aspect of what the sea floor looks like. that would aid in creating the missions that the bluefin would operate in. you have a second level of systems that are deep water towed systems that can look out over a much wider swath, a couple of kilometers or so. the fact that they are using the bluefin, that is the third tier in the recovery efforts. that gives me the impression they have a pretty high degree of confidence that they're in the area they want to be. if they aren't, that's why the

regrouping effort was mentioned. >> i was thinking the same thing. van, i want to ask you, when they say the bluefin should complete its work within a week, that sounds confident of something. do you think that -- we have been talking about they know more than they are releasing, but how confident are you that they have that much more to put the time frame on it? >> christi, this is the first time they talked about the time frame. they are circumspect with the time lines and zones they are working on. if they don't find anything next week, they will take a brief pause. that tells me they have a smaller target area within the general area where they heard the pings than we previously discussed. to cover that whole area where the four pings were heard, would take more than two weeks. it tells me two things. they have a tighter target area that they are focused on.

if they don't find anything, they reassess. secondly, it indicates as fred was saying, they learned some things as they have gone through the operation in the last two-to-three weeks and they want to take a planning pause to reassess the tools they want to use. the bluefin and ocean shield were sent to the area in late march before we were looking in the area. you know, they had to make assumptions early on on which types of gear they need. they want to reassess given what they have learned. >> over last ten days to two weeks, if over the next week, these black boxes, source of the pings, that is not discovered where the "ocean shield" picked up the pings. fred, do you think that reconsideration is what the chinese reported several weeks ago when they picked up the pings with a hydrophone or is

that not credible at this point? >> remember our discussions last week, what the sound can do in the water. especially in those upper few layers. it really can -- there is a lot of refraction and ray bending and a lot of additional noise from the vessel. so it would be really difficult for me to, you know, say that what the chinese actually heard with their device that was right at the surface trying to listen three miles down to where the, you know, suspected black box pinger would be, would be a valid assumption. >> that likely won't be something that will be considered? >> well, in my opinion, it wouldn't be considered such like where the towed-pinger locator

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prosecutors say the third mate was at the helm when the ship capsized. the captain says he stepped away for a moment. >> we want to talk about the latest developments here with bobby shurley and our paula hancocks who says the weather is getting worse there. bobby, thank you for being with us. how do the conditions above the surface effect conditions below the water? >> good morning. the conditions above the surface really are going to play havoc with the diving operations. the divers have to go into the skin of the ship off of the

diving ships. they are using surface supply divers. those are the divers you see that have the yellow helmets on and air hoses that are feeding the air into the helmets. those are the divers you have to use in this situation to actually go inside the ships. the scuba divers you see there in the pictures in the black rubber rafts, those are the divers they use to just go around the outside of the ship looking for survivors and looking at the conditions outside the ships. those divers, you can't use to go actually inside the ship to look for the survivors. so to use the divers going inside the ship, you have to launch those off the korean navy diving ships. to get them into the ship, the ferry, you will have to launch

them off the ship. you can still get them into the water when the weather conditions are rainy and when you have some high winds and seas, but it is just going to make it very difficult. the current is the big problem they are facing right now. getting the divers into the ship. >> paula hancocks also said there was an oil slick creeping up with a very strong smell. if that is from the ferry and i guess from anything else, what dangers could that pose? >> well, the divers are probably already facing a scenario where they are diving in contaminated water. that is another reason why they are using the hard hat diving equipment with that helmet over their heads and the air supply going into the helmet. that is the type of diving equipment that we would use in hazardous water and water that is contaminated with the fuel oil and lube oil coming off the

ferry. to me, i would say if they are smelling that, that means that some of the engineering spaces are becoming flooded as the ship slowly sinks down to the bottom. those engineering spaces are usually the spaces that are at the very bottom of the ferry which is now the top of the ferry. as the ferry is sinking lower in the water, those spaces, those engineering spaces, are starting to become flooded with water as the ferry slowly sinks down. but i think there is still a possibility there are air pockets in the passenger spaces unless the ferry has completely sunk to the bottom of the water where it is located. i'm sure they are trying to get those hard hat divers back inside the ship where they found the floating bodies earlier and

get them back inside to those places looking for possible air pockets and possible survivors. there is still that possibility. they need to get those hard hat divers back in to continue searching. i'm positive that's what they are trying to do. >> we certainly hope so and for the families as well. thank you bobby schully. we appreciate your expertise. >> thank you. we learned hours ago that the autonomous underwater vehicle combing the southern indian ocean, searching for flight 370 will finish its work within a week. that is much sooner than many experts predicted. >> the bluefin-21 on its seventh mission. it has not found any sign of the plane, but it has captured clear and sharp images of the part of the sea that has never been mapped before. we will show you those images as soon as we get them.

>> joining us from sarasota, florida is captain marklin. he is the owner of the salvage company extthat operates bluefin-21. charles, we are seeing part of the ocean that was uncharted before. talk about the value of the pictures they are capturing. >> well, the value to us is obviously it helps us program the bluefin or the auv to be able to navigate over those mountains or whatever. i have not seen any images. that certainly is an important area. i guess the main reason nobody has ever really charted out there is that nobody goes there. it is a very isolated part of

the ocean. >> the bluefin-21, we know has been searching. we still don't know where the plane hit the water, which is a big problem. how important is that point of impact to the auv's work? >> it's crucial because at the point of impact the aircraft will most likely disintegrate and come apart. the landing gear will fall relatively straight down from the point of impact. whereas, other pieces of the aircraft, lighter ones, will extend themselves over the ocean bottom. in the case of the air france 447, the wreckage was strewn over .75 of a mile on the bottom at 12,800 feet.

>> captain maclin, do you think there should have been more than one bluefin for this search? >> no, actually, i don't at this point. it would be nice if the batteries in the ping eers coul last 60 days. that would give us more time to determine where the pingers might be. the flight data recorders. >> yes. retired u.s. navy captain charles maclin, we thank you for sharing your time with us this morning. >> thank you. diplomacy put to the test. pro-russian separateists refuse to put down their arms. will the violence halt in ukraine? and how to help the victims

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in ukraine. more pro-russian separatists. >> this is coming after a seven-hour negotiation in geneva with secretary of state john kerry. >> james ruben is the former secretary of state. thank you for being with us. do you think based on the fact there is blatant defiance to the agreement in the region there could be a resolution without violence? >> well, there is unlikely to be total calm in the ukraine in the coming weeks and months. there are huge numbers of people who have been influenced by the russian government by vladimir putin to believe that what happened in the crimea, that is russia's invasion of the crimea, might well happen in eastern ukraine. even the fact that russia still

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a little chunk of the eastern ukraine and create separate fifedoms. there will be an election in ukraine in may. i think if that election goes smoothly across the country, that will have a positive effect on the region. the idea of having a referendum so every city or county or region can decide to leave ukraine and join russia is absurd. i don't think the ukrainians will allow it. instead, what we have to do is unify the west. we have to all together, germany, france, britain, the united states, congress, the president, everybody accept a fundamental policy is at stake.

>> do you see anything that would influence president putin to back off? >> well, i think it is possible if germany and france and britain join us in firmer economic steps that really cause economic effect -- up to now we really haven't done very much in the economics spheres. we put sanctions on individuals. we could begin with the banking sector that would affect russia and the olegarks. the people at the top of the system that care about the international banking system. putin probably has millions in the bank himself. if we address that, it might have an impact. >> and we will see if this pact actually holds and what the effect will be. former assistant secretary of state james rubin.

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it's evening rights now in south korea as the death toll continues to climb in the country's ferry disaster. >> it changed a couple of times since we started the show. it is now 33 people confirmed dead and 269. many of them students from the same high school. >> let's bring in cnn's paula hancocks. the captain was not at the helm, but the ship's third mate. tell us about the charges the captain is facing. >> reporter: victor, there are five charges against the captain, including negligence and abandoning the boat and causing injury. he is the captain. he should not leave until everyone else left. we saw the footage. he was one of the first to arrive in the port in jindo.

he could face anything between five years and life in prison. he wasn't at the helm. he wasn't in the steering room. he said he had gone to the toilet in his room at the time of the accident. it was the third mate, a woman who was in control, she is also charged. charged of causing injuries leading to deaths and negligence which led to the ship's sinking. she says it wasn't her fault. there was a sharp deviation in the course. quote, steering the turned much more than usual. earlier this saturday, we had been to the site a few hundred feet from where they are trying to get the divers inside the submerged hull. it is a large search operation. hundreds of vessels are there from the war ships to the vessels. everyone is desperately trying to get into the submerged vessel hoping against hope there is still a chance of survivors inside. victor and christi.

>> paula, you were talking about the oil spill in the area. we will talk to you about that in the 10:00 hour. >> thank you for starting your morning with us. >> we will see you back here at 10:00 a.m. eastern. "smerconish" starts right now. good morning. i'm michael smerconish. we have a jam packed program for you today including what is being called the largest and most dangerous gathering of al qaeda in years. and millions sign up for obamacare. 1 million more than the white house predicted. do democrats hop on the afford able care act train or jump off the tracks together? shannon brings us her expertise and larry is here to tell us if republicans can still run against obamacare he