i'll be back, 5:00 p.m. eastern, another special two-hour edition. newsroom with brooke baldwin starts right now. >> here we begin the hour with a potentially huge development. here we go. a quote, object of interest, has washed up on the coast of australia about 180 miles south of perth. it is a large piece of metal. one side is covered with fiberglass and rivets, similar to what could be found on the exterior of the airplane. it is being called serious but after six and a half weeks of false leads and conflicting information, authorities are being very cautious about this. in the meantime, cyclone jack,

the cyclone has grounded air searches for day two. the blue fin 21 continues the search. today the underwater drone wraps up its tenth mission. its days could now be limited. it has scanned more than 80% of its intended search area. i know they are calling this mysterious metal object serious. what could this mean for the search? >> what we know right now is that this object is in the custody of the australian police. they are not elaborating any further because they say this is part of a federal investigation but they are in touch with the authorities and also the manufacturers of the plane to determine whether this is, in fact, a piece of that mh 370. we also know pictures of that

object have been sent to the australian transport safety board. also the australians said they sent pictures to the malaysian authorities as well but when the malaysians were asked about it they say they haven't received any photographs so far and everything that has been found so far in the indian ocean in related to mh-370.s not been so the malaysians being extra cautious as well and you can understand why. they want to be. >> the main purpose of the team

is really to evaluate and investigate what exactly happened with mh-370. so something like this doesn't happen again in the future. so the team will consist of three specific groups. they will look into things like the flight data recorders, they will look into structural aspects of the plane, the maintenance records as well. also the psychology of people on board, particularly the pilot to see whether human error or whether the pilots had any psychological problems that could have played a role. they will be looking into all of these aspects. have a listen. >> we are in the process of identifying the members indeed it is imperative for the government to form an independent team of investigators which is not only competent and transparent but also highly credible.

as i have said since the beginning, we have nothing to hide. >> and that's really what the point of the malaysian authorities keep trying to make is that they want to be as transparent as possible so that in this investigation is not scrutinized or the credibility of this investigation is not questioned. brooke? >> okay. thank you. let's focus. let's get back to this object of interest that washed ashore. here's a quote. this is from australia's top transport official and said the more we look at it, the less excited we get. former inspector general with the u.s. transportation department and i know there have been a lot of false leads. the more we look at it, the less excited we get. what do you think that means? >> that is not a very robust endorsement. however, finally we have got something in the case that we can get another definitive

answer. when i hear rivets, i think aircraft. boeing only uses one type of paint. they will be able to tell if they are aircraft fasteners because they are special. the inside of the fuselage is a green gray color. and the insulation bothers me. they say it's fiberglass but airplanes are not fiberglass. the insulating blankets are a polymer that is water resistant. it's flame resistant and has acoustical insulating properties. so we will have a definitive answer finally on something in this case. >> i think i hear what you're not saying. let's saying what if. they say with the rivets and everything else, what if this is

actually a piece of the plane. from this, and i don't know how big this object is, what do they do with it then? >> well, it's not what they're going to do with that but what they will do with the information in the currents. they will have to turn back to the meteorologists and oceanographers because that will be an unbelievably important lead. they will be able to trace back and hopefully get more leads on where to search for it. they can look at this piece and tell if it is as badly mangled as it is that this plane did not make a soft impact landing on the water. that's if it turns out to be from an airplane and this airplane. >> definitive answers is precisely what the families are demanding. they're demanding that. >> let's turn now to south korea and the search for bodies trapped inside this sunken

ferry. they found a lot of people were eating breakfast when the water was rushing in. here is what we now know. there were no passengers in that area. searchers had hoped to find survivors there. instead divers ended up pulling more victims and bodies from the cabin rooms there are still several more room s s to search but the death toll has now risen to 159. >> at the high school here, most of the student passengers attended a heartbreaking service. hundreds of people filed through the gymnasium where mourners passed wreaths and pictures of the students. school administrators say classes will resume tomorrow.

>> and a ferry crew member who died in the accident was also remembered. she risked her own life to help those students escape. also new today, more arrests bringing the total number of crew members here detained now to 11. with the latest on the search and investigation and will, as we continue to watch this death toll rise, more and more bodies are pulled out. at what point will they say this is a recovery mission? >> those are conversations that are probably happening behind the scenes right now although pubically this is still very much being called a search and recovery operation.

there are massive cranes that will help pull this ferry out of the water to weigh the cargo. how heavy was the cargo on the ship at the time that it capsized and began to sink. there need to be conversations that happen at the highest level with the government officials and conversations that need to happen with these families, families of those who are still waiting for closure and answers about where their loved ones are. these ships have huge nets. the nets are there to catch any bodies that may be drifting away. some of the passengers have been discovered outside of the ferry including a young girl in a life jacket who was floating out to sea. >> it sounds like a lot of these young people were in those life jackets when they were found. again the death toll 159.

will, thank you. now to this. no one can quite understand why a teenager would risk everything to smuggle himself across the pacific ocean but we now have an idea of what drove him to the death defying move. we will share that coming up. almost 13 years after 9/11, how can a 15-year-old boy hop an air fence and sneak aboard. how can he pull it off? are our airplanes up to the task of keeping flight secured? >> and an invasion is not out of the question.

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>> welcome back. i'm brooke baldwin. we can say that the pentagon is turning up heat on russia in the battle over ukraine's independence and today a u.s. citizen is now reportedly being held by pro russian accept rsep. vice news says a journalist was kidnapped by prorussian separatists. you have these groups who may become targets because they are occupying government buildings in key cities. a harsh warning was issued. >> if we were attacked we would certainly respond. if our legitimate interest, the interest of russians had been atacted directly like they were

in southeast asia, for example, i don't see any other way but to respond in full accordance with international law. russian citizens being attacked is an attack against the russian federation. >> bring in senior international correspondent who is live for us. i would like to begin with this american journalist. tell me what are the efforts being made to free him. what was he doing? do we know what the time of capture was? >> there have been calls by the u.s. for his release. the specific details as to how he was taken into detention are a bit unclear at this stage. saying that yes, they did have him in their custody he was being allowed to work and that

he was a detainee that he was being investigated. that they didn't want to release him. that they were accusing him of provocative rhetoric. they had around 10 individuals the activists that are being held. that's where we stand right now. >> what about on the ground where you are. i understand you're seeing more ukrainian police check points going up? >> yeah, police check points, security services check points, especially where we are here. the government saying that they're going to vamp up their anti-terrorist operations. although when they did launch that, it did prove to be a massive failure. the government is saying they

are going to move forward with their efforts to try to conduct these anti-krift operations. they fortified themselves who had no intention all efforts to try to negotiate the surrender have failed so far. >> thank you so much for us. divers working on this ferry rescue in south korea face a risky heartbreaking mission. but you see this? robots may be able to help we will show you exactly how this is working. if the black boxes are finally found from missing flight 370, this is where they will be sent. we will take you on the behind the scenes look at the lab that will try to figure out what happened on board that plane. i'm nathan and i quit smoking with chantix. when my son was born, i remember, you know, picking him up and holding him against me.

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>> now to the story, so many of you cannot get enough of this. the amazing survival of that 15-year-old stow away. it is beyond lucky that he did not get what he wanted. he was aiming for much farther than hawaii. this is the wheel well where the 15-year-old boy stowed away on the five hour flight from san jose, california, all the way to hawaii. he risked death inside this cramped space. no oxygen, sub zero temperatures, more than 2300 miles. now we have the answer to the question why. he wanted to see his mother.

he was hoping to get to somalia to be with his mom. sunday, you know the story. hopped a fence at the international airport. a government official says the teen was on the tarmac for as long as seven hours before the plane took off. he was caught on camera but no one saw the video until after he emerged, weak, but on his two feet. and today the airport's aviation director said this to the san jose mercury news. i wish that every system was foolproof but it's not. we're going to take a look at this and learn from it. let's talk about the different, better, learn from it part. >> so, you know, you know a lot about this. not about the stowing away but

about airport security. there was a surveillance camera. you're shaking your head. >> number one, he came over a fence and they have video of him coming over the fence. >> at like 1:00 in the morning. >> now really the most troubling part i have with this is that he was on that tarmac in the ramp area for seven hours. no one saw him. there was no one in the control center for security at that airport that was looking at any video cameras that saw him. one of the other things, too. every pilot before a flight takes a prewalk around inspection and looks to make sure there is nothing leaking and they usually look at the landing gear and up into the compartment. >> i heard a lot of times it is close closed this is everything that they're going to have to take a look at.

from the time they enter a car from the time they get in their seat. >> you have to walk through the lines, take my shoes off, and laptop out of my bag, etc. >> it should not have happened. and getting on to the tarmac. the seven hours part bothers me the most. >> the stow away is part of a string, as we have been reporting on in recent years, a string of recent breaches. take a listen. >> this is the fourth incident in the last five years. clearly, the airports that have been breached should be at the top of the list but looking at the airports in general and

taking a diagnostic i think would serve all of us well. >> the technology is so much better now than it was before covering the perimeter. let's just say it's a lot better than what it used to be. but they're still getting through. >> change number one. what needs to happen? >> additional personnel on a constant roving patrol. but again, here, who is it? it's the atlanta police department. it's usually the local police departments from where the airport's jurisdiction is. some departments like in dc they have a transportation police department that covers reagan and reagan national and dulles. they are probably better equipped than some other departments. >> i got ya.

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>> it is the bottom of the hour and i want to take you back to the pain staking search. the latest number we now have today, 159. that's the number of bodies that have now been pulled from this ferry. still 143 people are missing. training has become a major point of discussion. we are now kind of getting an example of how to be on board a ship and what should happen when a ferry takes on water. so rosa, take it away. >> we're going to take you through this. and this is what a bridge looks like. they are going to give us a

sense as to what we're looking at. >> a full mission bridge simulator. radars, control systems, control engines and everything you would see. >> everything that you would need. take a look at the horizon. now we are exiting the port of miami. you will be able to see, we will be out at sea and you can see an open body of water and you can complicate things a little bit by adding, for example, large waves, and adding rain and thunderstorms and then we also did something else. we got a rare view at another complication. so what if water starts rushing into the hull of a ship? take a look. >> on a ship this is the universal sign of trouble. crew is trained on how to prevent a deadly disaster at sea

like the singeing of the passenger ferry in south korea. investigators say the nearly 7,0 7,000 ton ship sank in about two hours. >> the crew's response is critical to preventing disaster. in this scenario, water is rushing in from an unknown source. >> water is starting to rise. what do you do? >> get away from the damage. make sure the crew knows about it. >> they use anything they can to plug the holes. >> how much time do you really have to get out or to assess the situation when water starts

really gushing in. >> it all depends on the scenario. >> best thing to get to safety is follow the walls, get outside. i always recommend getting to the main deck. >> now we know that the south korean ship listed at about 60 degrees. dave is going to do that. they started listing it slowly to give folks perspective. this is perspective from the bridge. what would be going through your mind? >> if you list like this and you're not coming back you know something is wrong. >> there is an issue you would be communicating with them. >> i want to give you another

perspective. take a look at the second camera. you will be able to see what the 60 degree angle looks like. you can see the water a lot closer to the lifeboats and balco balcony. one of the thipgs that stands out to me is for a lot of professions there is continuing education. some of the clients that we train with, some of the big cruise lines are starting to do that and taking it upon themselveses to do recurring training. that's why this facility was built. they have taken that lesson from aviation and started doing it. >> so brooke, that's one of the big take aways from here. sofa silties like this were built so that these drills can be practiced and so that captains can be able to make the split second decisions and the

cruise liners that are coming here are being proactive and having their crew members train to make sure that they can afert disaster. >> they should be. just talking to a woman who was on costa concordia. she said so much needs to change in the training and sadly it doesn't seem to be there. rescue divers in dangerous situations like that can sometimes use remarkable technologies to help and find some survivors. >> you're looking at a minirov. a remotely operated vehicle.

when it comes to ship wrecks, this machine is a workhorse. it can stay under water for days at a time, maneuvering its way. >> so to go forward, it's very, very intuitive. to back it up, you will back it up this way. >> like a video game. >> rhonda is an rov pilot and diving expert. she works for the company that builds these rovs. this is directed by a pilot at the surface. they have lights and special low visibility cameras. they have sonar, too, which can pick up images up to 400 feet away. >> i want to take you next to

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>> on the 48th day of the search for missing malaysian airlines flight 370, they are holding a piece of metal that could be part of this wreckage. it washed ashore. it is a large piece of metal, part fiberglass. it's torn, riveted, and if it is from this missing 777, let's be clear, that's far from certain, it will be the first physical

trace of the boeing 777. no such trace has been detected thus far. it is nearing the end of its targeted search area. malaysia with a clue about what may happen next. >> talking to other entities to look at the time line i have to discuss with angus houston, but it will not be in the next few days. what is more important is that the search continues and this is an assurance that we will give to the families of the passengers. >> and as the search continues here, nothing -- see this orange thing? i know it's called a black box. obviously it is orange. we know that. only a handful of countries in the world have the technical

know-how to unlock the plane's black box and unlock the secrets inside. one of the countries is australia, the inventories of the black box. this is our audio laboratory. it's shielded. >> electronics and audio. >> outside signals and as well it's got very good soundproofing. >> inside the australian soundproof -- where he and his team examine data recorders not just from planes but also trains and ships. >> now the reality is there are very few countries in the world, just a handful of them who have

the technical know-how to work out what's inside one of these thing things. >> even with really damaged ones, your success ratd wie wit getting the information off is good. >> from the flight data recorder, we obtain a raw data file which contains just ones and zeros. >> the boxes contain a wealth of information, up to 2,000 separate pieces from the data recorder alone. high-technology built into a water proof, fireproof, shock

proof shell. the analysis can be this, an animated representation of a tragedy, this one from a 2010 training flight. >> the vast that majority of it supporting the brain deep within, surprisingly small but containing everything that neil campbell needs on a handful of computer chips. >> on a box that big, that is what you need? >> it is crucial. >> but they have to be found first. malaysia not a country.

they are ready to attempt to unlock a mystery like no other. michael holmes, australia. >> thank you. coming up, admin hillary is being remembered for conquering mount everest. his sherpa and his people made it possible. if they have the money and that is troubling to more than a few people. and of course there is no more beautiful field than wrigley field. and there is a pretty epic birthday party going on. >> 100 years wrigley field, we are inside the score board, the manual score board. this is daryl, one of the guys who works the score board. we will talk about him and the big celebration when we come

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>> we have been reporting on the single deadliest accident on the world's highest peak, that being mount everest. but now an american climber just at the end of last week is speaking out. john rooyder tells cnn that his guide saved his life. got him out of the way when the

icy avalanche tluhundered down. he spoke by phone to cnn earlier this morning. you heard it crash down and all the thoughts went through your head with somebody younger. how big was it, how much, and everything flashes so quickly. but then within seconds, the valley is full of snow and ice. our sherpa did -- immediately just pushed us behind blocks of ice and just get down. just the cloud of ice and snow encompassed the canyon pretty quickly. he was an amazing man.

he just immediately, i keep thinking about that how he did not dive himself, he turned to me and was like get down, you know, get down. he's a nice guy. he spent his whole day that day digging his friends out of the snow, hooking them up to cables and flying them down the mountain. it's hard to imagine what's going through their heads. it's just bizarre. we have all been to the mountains and seen death in the mountains. but to see that many people brought down the mountains on a helicopter was obscene. and everybody up there is thinking about all those families and all those kids whose dads who are not coming home. >> just the grief on the faces of the sherpa community. outside magazine is reporting that a sherpa working above base camp is nearly ten times nor likely to die than a commercial

fisherman, which is one of the most dangerous non-military jobs in the u.s. following friday's avalanche, many sherpas are walking off the jobs out of grief and solidarity. nepal's government has agreed to some of their demands, the first sherpa to reach mount everest. >> died last week on the mountain. but i think it's the decision of the as to whether they would continue to climb this season or not. >> just in terms of sheer dollars and cents, sherpas make

up to $6,000 a season. foreign climbers who go there to make the trek to try to climb this spend 40 to $90,000 each to scale the mountain. coming up, a possible clue to flight 370s disappearance might have washed up along the shores of australia. could it be that all of the flights and satellites missed this? now we could finally have something that could be tied to the plane. coming up, stay with me.

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diamondbacks wearing the throw back jerseys and ted rollins, pretty awesome assignment for him today. inside the manual score board there. i have been in the green monster at fenway. >> it's awesome, brooke. three stories high the score board is, like the green. guys like this man have to switch the manual score board. i don't want to ruin things at wrigley. in one capacity or another, give us a sense of what this ballpark means to you. >> today it's like my family. a lot of hours in and took care

of the park basically 27 years that i have been here, winter and spring. pretty much like a home away from home for me. >> yelling scores out, pitching changes. it's hard to hear that because of the crowd noises. it's hard to get these scores out to the other guys. it makes it hectic in here. >> show us the back of your jacket. it says wiegmann park. that was the original name 100 years ago. a lot of the old cubs are here. and obviously as you mentioned,

every chicagoan is tied to the cubs. everybody loves the cubs. it's a destination, too. this is on a lot of people's bucket list. >> i have been in those bleacher seats and i love the surrounding bars and restaurants. will you ask your buddy, has he ever put up the wrong number? >> you have put up the wrong number before, right daryl? >> yes, i have. national tv saw it and showed it. >> he really runs the show. he runs a tight ship. >> i believe you. what a unique and amazing look inside of wrigley. the season finale of the original series chicagoland airs

tonight at 10:00 eastern. stay right here the next hour of newsroom starts now. >> thank you so much for being with me here today. top of the hour. big news possibly. a large chunk of debris has washed ashore in australia. the million dollar question, is it the first piece of real evidence in the search for flight 370 or might it be just another dead end? see this prop? this bright orange? i know we call it the black box. it's orange. this is a flight data recorder. and this is what experts are hoping that this new object may trace them back somewhere in the bottom of the indian ocean to this. because the real secrets are actually locked in this part of it to try to figure out what happened to this plane. this object, this metal object found south of perth is described as a large piece of

torn up metal. one side has rivets and fiberglass material. no such trace from that mission, the underwater drone on dive number ten covering more than 80% of the search area. it is nearing the end of its total number of missions. back in malaysia, authorities say they have finally completed a preliminary report, one that is supposed to be done in the first 30 days. it is usually public information but malaysia is keeping it private. that is another bitter pill for these families to swallow. >> we want to tell them to stop lying. they are telling to the whole world that they have good communication with the relatives. they promised there will be a delegation to come to beijing and talk to us about the technical questions we are concerned about. but they have broken their

promise and they said stop asking the questions and face the fact. what is the fact? what kind of fact do they want us to face? do they have the facts? they are lying to the whole world yet again. >> strong words. pamela brown who has been following the investigation closely. first the object, pamela, do we know if the ntsb, boeing, is involved in the identification process? >> at this point boeing and the ntsb won't comment directly on whether they have seen pictures but reiterated that they are still assisting in the investigation. but this debris is still being considered an object of interest. it should be easy for investigators to determine if that metal is from an airplane or not. australian officials said they are getting more skeptical

saying the more we look at it the less excited we get. and by the way the debris was found about 1,000 miles from where the current search is going on. >> could be another false positive in the search for the 777. what about this australian malaysian's long term commitment to the search. >> both have made it quite clear that they are planning for the long haul and talking about bringing in more at sess. it is about 80% done and still no wreckage. but crews will not give up searching for flight 370. here is what he had to say. >> we haven't finished the search but australia will not

rest until we have done everything we humanly can to get to the bottom of this mystery. officials say they are committed for the long haul here. there was talk about a special committee, brooke, of investigators that they will be looking at to determine the cause of the accident. malaysian officials are not making the report public. basically a fact finding report of what may have happened to flight 370 and of course that is not sitting well. >> they want it made public and they are frustrated. understandably so, men, nice to see you back here. shawn, out of the gate, this is the my first question to you. when you hear the description.

let's begin with the mysterious metal object. what does that tell you? >> well, obviously, it could be many different things but what i can say is that these aircraft do possess metal and fiberglass combinations that do sound like this, so what's good about that is that engineers and most investigators would be able to look at that material and be able to tell very quickly if that's's actually aircraft grade material or not. once we can get our hands on it and look at it, they should be able to tell quickly. >> and rob, we just, we know that this piece of debris, this piece of metal was found 1,000 miles from the current search area. could that be possible with your knowledge of the currents in this part of the world? or might this just be trash?

>> it is entirely possible that it could also be trash. as we have seen over the last several weeks, there is a lot of debris out over the ocean from a number of different sources, the finding this morning is a reminder to all of us is that somewhere somebody is likely to find something. beach combing takes on a whole new meaning. >> absolutely it does. and we know the family members they want evidence and proof, some piece of this plane. and we know that a woman whose partner was on this triple seven said in terms of transparency and availability of information says that air traffic control audio should be made public. >> that's why the family members are trying to go back to square one, to day one and we want the malaysian government to open up the data that should have been opened up within days of the

investigation starting to a third party independent yet still confidential group who is qualified to assess the data. the air traffic control audio, that should be public record. the radar for both civilian and military, the engine pings, not the analysis of the engine pings but the actual raw data including from as much as ten days before the flight so it could be looked at for anomalies. >> in accident investigations such as this one, such as the ones you are familiar with, air traffic control conversation between the cockpit and the ground being made public, is that an understandable request? >> yeah, i really think it is. we have to keep in mind that the way that we do knit the united states could be significantly different than what we see in the other countries. it is made public early into the

investigation. what guides these rules and guidelines in the other countries is the regulations. we have to keep in mind that no one is required to follow the regulations to the letter. i look at the material right before this interview and i didn't see anything in there that specifically addresses tapes. it talked about how cdrs have to be protected. it said communication between those operating aircraft should be with held, should be kept skon if confidential. i think it's a reasonable request. i think what goes hand in hand with this is the request for the other information that you mentioned, the engine data and the radar pings, here is the problem with that. that information in its raw form is it going to be very user friendly, so to speak, to the

general public. this is identification that has to be calibrated and analyzed and put into some meaningful form. so i'm not sure that is really a reasonable request. but tapes? absolutely. >> final one to you here, talking about this underwater search if nothing comes up on mission ten what do you think should happen next? >> the next thing is a more strategic approach. a broad scale search of the vessel that last 300 miles or so to give you an indication, everything that blue pin has done to date could have been achieved in one day with a deep tow side scan sonar.

>> maybe throwing out the search area, men, thank you so much for your expertise. coming up here, this hour on vnn, stories of heroism. we will tell you about this one young woman who was a member of the crew who gave her life trying to save those high school students. and more about this so called object of interest that we have been discussing found along the australian coastline. and how did that teenager, 15 years old sur five this five our flight in the plane's wheel well? we will talk to a doctor who actually treated someone a little older who did precisely that and survived. 's signature favorites, just $10 including creamy fettuccine alfredo,

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>> welcome back. i'm brooke baldwin and now to the south korea ferry disaster and the ongoing investigation here. authorities have searched the offices of the company who owns this sunken ship. and a criminal investigation into what happened is widened. officials also searched the home of the ferry's owner. and more arrests today, bringing the number of crew members now detained to 11. these divers pulling more and more bodies out of the zungle wreckage. the death toll stands at 159 and many of these victims are young high school students found in ka

pin rooms. unfortunately no air pockets have been discovered on the ship. and contrary to what divers had hoped, there were no bodies found in the cafeteria. at the high school, most of the students at the school were friends with some of the passengers are attending this heartbreaking memorial today. hundreds of people filing through the gymnasium. we are live with more on this investigation. so, will, now that no one has been found in this cafeteria, the bodies in these cabins, what more do we know about the search warrants? >> the search warrants are a big part of how this criminal investigation is going to

unfoldment not only the offices of the ferry company but search warrants for 20 other businesess and more interesting, search warrants of the private company that inspects ships for the south korean government. this is a key point. there is a lot of question right now about the ferry. there was some modifications made to it. we know that according to one south korean lawmaker that the passenger capacity was increased by about 100 people. and one of the crew members who was interviewed yesterday, i believe, he said that there was a problem with the ship being unstable so you put these pieces together. was there extra cargo? was there ship modifications to make it more top heavy? these are all questions that are

unanswered. that's why you see all of these search warrants for all of these parties involved. and you mentioned the divers that have been searching tirelessly trying to find the missing people and it really brings home the human toll on this. there has been a rom behind me having a break down. she is kicking a white board which has information on it about the people who died. we heard her screams and her wails we have heard this twice tonight. how much pain these people are in. it brings home the reality that for so many families this is the worst time in their lives. there is a criminal investigation and a very human tragedy. >> thinking about the families and all of those divers who have

such a crueling difficult task. it is horrendous. thank you. coming up next, it seems just unthinkable how a teenager could survive for five hours in freezing temperatures. actually below zero, way below zero on the flight to hawaii, stowed away in the wheel well of the plane. but it has happened before. multiple times in fact. i will talk to a doctor who treated a 20 something-year-old found frozen inside the wheel of a plane. that person also survived.

>> welcome back. i'm brooke baldwin. it is beyond lucky that this teen aged stow away didn't get what he wanted. he was aiming for much farther than hawaii. take a look at this picture we have for you today. this is the actual wheel well where the 15-year-old stowed away all the way from california to maui. he risked his life in a cramped space. and finally the answer to the question, why. he wanted to see his mother there in moll ya. hoping to go all the way to somalia in a plane to see mom. he is now in a hospital recovering and he is in much better shape than a stow away who was found back in 2000. remember this story? he survived a flight that was

actually longer. seven plus hours all in the underbelly of a plane going from tahiti to los angeles. his body temperature was reportedly 79 degrees when rescuers got to him. joining me now is the physician who treated this 24 back in the year 2000. doctor thank you for joining me. >> thank you for having me. >> here is the biggest difference in reading about your case in 2000 and the current one. your patient, this 24-year-old was so frozen, i have heard you describe that he was almost cartoon-like. describe that? >> yeah, i mean when you think of somebody frozen you don't literally think he is frozen but he actually was. he was stiff. his arms were jutting out. he was cold to touch. he was confused and moaning.

let's be clear. without acute aggressive action of the nurses and doctors, he would have died. and even with that he was in the critical care unit for about three weeks. it was really serious. >> so you and your team helped save this young man's life. when we talk about temperature, you mentioned the word frozen, just the temperature in the wheel well. i have heard 50 below, 80 below. it's freezing cold and your patient was in critical condition. you pumped him with warm water just to unfreeze him? >> with severe hypothermia, we have to intubate him. the ivs are warmed.

we're trying to warm him from the inside out. it's as aggressive as can be. the hard when it's super could can go into an erratic heartbeat. >> what about the brain? whant long term effects in the brain? >> in the emergency department we're worried can he move, can he talk? but there will definitely be long term effects much like somebody who suffers multiple concussions. headaches, maybe depression. things that will come about maybe years later. >> unlike your patient, this 15-year-old according to those who saw him when he hopped out of the wheel well, he was weak but he was on his own two legs answering questions from investigators. physically, how did he survive?

>> i can only try to explain this because of the cold, it oxygen state.ected his low - it slowed his metabolism to such a point that he didn't need oxygen and he has a lot of reserve because he is a young kid. the rewarming process could have killed him. his hard could have gone into an erratic rhythm there. the landing gear could have cut an artery. there is many things where he dodged but again, the planets were aligned for him. >> he wanted to go to somalia and hopped on the first plane he saw. crazy story there. coming up, an object of

interest, this piece of metal wash ace shore. with all the harsh currents in this part of the world, might this be part of the plane? stay here.

>> bottom of the hour. you're watching cnn. i'm brooke baldwin. a piece of metal washed ashore about 180 miles south of perth. it is large, part fiberglass, torn. if it is part of the missing plane, it will be the first physical trace of the boeing 777. that means the wreckage is washing up far from where they

thought the plane went down. this is obviously if they find some sort of piece of wreckage and figure out where this is and find out what happened on board that plane. so we got that. talk about the currents in this part of the world. and so this object, again, may maybe part of the plane, may not be. about 1200 miles away from the current search area. >> we talked about the trash. >> we were talking about it non-stop. it may be difficult to have happened but anything is possible at this point. >> show me how. were this is what we have been talking about. and these, you see flowing in these directions and the main that was flowing down to the south was a very, very swift moving one and that's one that

we were talking about very early on non-stop. if you look closer, you can see that there is more than just those. we have some that flow from west to east and some that go from north to south. it could be possible that it is caught up in one of the other currents, if you look at the distance. say this traveled about one mile per hour. if you look at the distance, that's almost exactly to a t the distance from the possible crash site to where this washed on shore. there are so many different over things that you have to look at. this is one of the other things that we have been talking about. this would definitely have impacted the dins tans and time of travel. what could have made up the

distabs. wind. right after the crash happened, less than two weeks later, this was a cad gorry five storm. we were talking about 160 mile per hour winds. so this would have moved any debris in so many different directions. it would have moved it very, very quickly. any little piece of debris, brooke, would have had an object sticking up out of the ocean, it would have acted almost as a sail, so these winds pushing it 100, 160 miles an hour could have moved something very quickly. >> could have done it and it should be pretty quickly to identify whether or not this was a piece of the plane or not. and as we talk about the possibilities of the story, you have to think about the families, the desperate families with passengers, loved ones, sons, daughters, they are sick and tired. they are called them lies that they are getting from the

malaysian government. that want malaysia to hand over raw satellite data used to calculate the search areas. >> why do you think they're not giving you the information? >> i am not sure. maybe they just don't know they cannot understand so they are afraid that when something was found, something wrong was found, they are making a huge mistake. >> you also had a list of 46 questions, many of them were basic about cereal numbers, manifests and things of that nature. the malaysian authorities have answered none of them. why do you think that is. >> that is the question. some of the questions are

totally not confidential. i don't know how it could influence the investigation but they just give the answer that it is still under investigation. >> officials say they have nothing to hide and the data is part of an ongoing investigation. let's talk about what is happening off of south korea now. the search for remains. the death toll rising to 159 people. more than 140 others are still missing. by the way that number today is up to 11. 11 crew members detained and under arrest. one young crew member being hailed a heroin today. she handed out life jackets to passengers as the ferry started to take on water and sink and helped them escape. and when she ran out of life

jackets she rushed to the next floor to get more. someone asked her why aren't you wearing a life jacket? and her response? crew members would be last and she had to help the others first. people are sending flowers with messages like we will always remember your sacrifice. with all of steez stories, she is so young, giving others life vests knowing that she would go down with the ship. >> she is being remembers for her courage and selflessness. she literally laid down her own life and she saved approximately 50 lives because of her own efforts. this is what they say happened. as the ferry begun listing to

one side. there was an open door that presented a huge gap and that gab was too big for them to step over. she took control of the situation. she told crew members not to move while park forced her way to that door and guided the passengers across the closed door and out to the exit. one passenger calls it the bridge of life. survives tell vnn that park was standing near the exit. they're not sure why she didn't make it out alive but she was last seen without a life jacket and that park dropped out of college after her father passed away. if ever crew member would have been as brave as she was, the

death toll would be much lower. >> and it's not just her story. >> there are reports of several other crew members who say saved their lives. according to one media report, two crew members actually went down into the cabin while the ferry was singeiksinking. and these two crew members never returned. another report that i saw, crew members, several of them taking off their life vests, giving it to passengers because there just was not enough to go around on a specific floor on the ferry. cnn has not confirmed these stories that i would imagine we will hear a lot more of these stories in the coming days. >> no one found, no bodies found in the cafeteria where they were hoping. no air pockets and still 140 missing. amber walker, thank you so much. >> coming up next, pope francis, did you hear about this?

making a surprise phone call. we're live in rome to explain what this could be about and the broader significance within the cathol catholic church. the governor in the state of georgia signing a sweeping gun bill into law. we will explain that coming up. humans. we are beautifully imperfect creatures living in an imperfect world.

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itself. surprise, happy easter. what did he tell her? >> well, let's say first, that the vatican won't confirm the contents of the conversation. we have seen the pope do it many times before, just pick up the phone and call someone who had written a letter to him and that was the case for this woman in argentina who wanted clarification. and the pope said that she could receive kmoon on. and said that it's not wrong for a divorced person to receive communion, which is technically within the bounds of search law. a borsed person can receive communion, but a divorced and remarried person cannot. this is one that pope francis really wants to focus on. >> let's talk about that.

hope francis continues to make headlines for his more all inclusive stone. what signal do you think he's trying to send when it comes to divorce in the catholic church? >> last year he was coming back from brazil and he said he thought on this question of divorce and remarried catholics it was a moment for mercy. clearly he has already set a tone on this question about the direction he would like to take. the problem is that it is a question of church teaching. there are a lot of bishops and cardinals who have more to say on the issue and pope francis has been the pope who wants to take into account what everybody else thinks. if he has come out and said to a woman that she can receive communion ahead of the church

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bit outside of the capital of atlanta. set the scene for me? >> a north georgia town, very conservative district, there are hundreds of people there, barch the event began there were dozens wait, that's how excited they were the bill would be signed into law. an effort stretched over years to get bill passed and took an election year cycle to get signed into law. >> wondering about the politics of this thing myself. you have, just reading about it lawmakers, the governor signing it. this may be most comprehensive pro-gun reform bill in state history and this didn't go as far as some wanted to. >> there are try dent pro-gun groups that wanted to go farther, wanted to include provisions to allow people to carry guns on college campuses as well as the capitol building

behind security structures. they wanted the guns. >> no protesters in -- but the protesters in the capitol. >> a protest across the capitol today at 11:00 dozens saying this will lead to another cycle of violence, more bloodshed, more problems. >> call this the guns everywhere law. gabby giffords, representative gabby giffords tried to block this. what would -- how has the governor responded to criticisms that it would lead to more violence? >> he said today that this is a bill for law-abiding citizens, help protect law-abiding citizens, it will have no impact on those who don't have permits because they don't have permits in the first place. the law enforcement community has raised very big concerns about this. >> for example? >> there's a provision in the bill that basically arms police officers for being able to check

the permit of people unless there's probable cause to do so. some law enforcement officers are worried, sheriffs are wor worried they won't have grounds to stop people if they're walking around with a gun in their pocket. >> i'm curious, how are pastors responding to this? >> pastors, a lot we have talked to are also concerned with it. for pastors to opt in, at first the bill would have been opt out which meant unilaterally -- >> automatic. >> -- guns would be allowed in. instead it's an opt-in. law enforcement officers aren't concerned about the church element but of course the courthouse element, gun as howed in courthouses ahead of the metal detectors and other security provisions there are concerns from city officials, local officials in that provision of the bill as well. >> i don't know if you know the answer to this, but when thu you think of the law, is this a first as far as all 0 the locations you could legally carry a gun in the nation? >> the gun rights folks say that

other states, including vermont, that are more libertarian, and have longer standing rules, we're playing catch up to them, georgia is, that is. but there's concerns that this will lead to even more looser restrictions in the future, like the capitol, like campus carry, like other provisions, down the road. >> thank you so much for reporting this. >> thanks for having me. >> i really appreciate it. from the "atlanta-journal constitution." next, we are minutes away, seven minutes, away from the closing bell. live to the new york stock exchange. there she is, alison kosik standing by. news when it comes to tech stocks next on cnn.

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hear about this one? new york city police department facing backlash after encouraging tweets using the #mynypd. the hashtag filled with pictures of police brutality, like this one, officers holding a man on the hood of a car here. tweet says, free massages from nypd. what does your police department offer? the tweets are helping start a dialogue between the police and the people. after a six-day win streak, investors hoping stocks would

continue to gain ground. instead, a lackluster day on wall street. closing bell, about two minutes away here. let's go there. alison kosik joins me at new york stock exchange. what happened today with the numbers? >> reporter: we saw stocks stay in the red all day, brooke, because of mixed earnings reports from companies, also a housing report, keeping stocks in the red. new home sales plunged 14.5% in march. a big disappointment, the housing market improves around now, when it's spring. we're just not seeing it yet. with the closing bell about to ring in two minutes, seeing stocks pull back after several days of gains, not too terrible with the losses, i mean, especially when you consider what april's been like. quite the roller coaster ride for stocks. april started out with losses but we've seen stocks come back lately, just not today, brooke. >> what about facebook and apple, specifically, allison? reporting earnings. >> reporter: they are. right when the bell rings, expect those earnings to come in

at any time. investors want to know, can the two companies deliver? facebook shares up 13% this year. happenle shares, yeah, down 6% but some wonderng $524 apiece, wondering if that stock's overvalued. what these earnings do is give us a better dwrd of how companies are doing. for apple, think about the products, they're not cheap. if sales are good, consumers are feeling confident, out there spending. as far as facebook goes, investors want to know if the company's raking in revenue through its mobile ad revenue, something keeping facebook moving forward. we're seeing facebook shares down over 2.5% at 61 apiece. you are seeing shares at an elevated level and investors want to know if those shares could be overvalued as well. >> there we go, applause, closing bell. alison kosik, great to see you. thank you so much.

quick reminder, if you want to check out interviews we've done on the show, go to the brooke blog. that does it for me. see you back here tomorrow. let's go to washington. "the lead" with jake tapper starts right now. >> is it the evidence we've been waiting for or is it just another piece of sea garbage? jake tapper. this is "the lead." the world lead, six weeks of searching turned up nothing, not a wing, not a seat, not a pack of peanuts from missing flight 370. but a quote, object of interest washes newspaper investigators' hands. dare we ask, is it from the plane? also -- 11 ferry crew member as rested, actions to be that sinking ferry compared to murder by south korea's president. now authorities raid the offices of the company that owns the doomed ship. did they find anything