thanks very much for watching. you can always follow us on twitter. tweet me @wolfblitzer. tweet the show @cnnsitroom. don't forget to watch us tomorrow if you can't see us live. dvr the show so you won't miss a moment. "erin burnett outfront" starts right now. next, breaking news. the most promising lead yet. debris washing up on an australian beach. it the plane? plus, the ferry disaster in south korea. new questions about what was really on that ferry. and the 15-year-old stowaway who flew in a jet's landing gear to hawaii and survived. tonight the mother of another stowaway speaks out. let's go "outfront." >> good evening, everyone. i'm erin burnett. "outfront" tonight, a game changing new question in the search for malaysia airlines flight 370. high hopes that a piece of debris found on the shore of australia was the plane dashed

just moments ago. officials telling cnn, quote, analysis of the photos is enough not to warrant further analysis of the material. what was the material? well, it was found near augusta, australia, about a thousand miles from the current underwater search site. the object described as an eight-foot tall piece of metal and fiberglass. but as the underwater search comes up empty again tonight, new questions raised about whether they're hunting in the right place. >> by mh 370 may have landed and not crashed. >> the answer according to australia's prime minister, the plane went down somewhere in the indian ocean. but they haven't found anything yet. in augusta almost four hours south of perth, the southwest tip of the country. near where that possible debris was found. miguel, how seriously were officials taking this piece of debris? >> well, very, very seriously. look, police got it from this very emote and very beautiful

part of australia, all the way up the coast to perth. tells us one police officer. they also took photographs of it. and i'm sure those were sent around the world, including probably boeing airline in the u.s., and certainly officials in canberra as they tried to determine whether it was. i can tell you police here and the public that we have already seen walking along the beach here, they have been watching for week news to see if anything from that airliner washed up on shore. it will come as perhaps not great shock, but certainly a little frustration on everyone's part that this does not seem to be part of it. erin? >> miguel, thank you very much. miguel, to emphasize, miguel is there too. they really did take this incredibly seriously. joining me via skype is commander mcevoy of the new zealand air force. commander, are you 100% sure that the object that miguel was just reporting on near augusta in australia is not from the plane? >> the only information we've got at this stage, erin, is the same information that you've got. the photos are being analyzed. and i've got nothing further.

so if it is a piece, it will be great. but unfortunately, i don't think it will be. >> so people are hoping, right? because it had washed up on shore, that it could have indicated there was debris. that's what you've been searching. now it's been 48 days since this plane went down. the underwater search in the most promising area is almost done. they're close to done. are you starting to lose hope? >> no. as you see day 48, the crews are raring to go. it's disheartening on the one hand that we haven't found anything. but every day that we search, we manage to cover another area that we can say, you know, we don't need to go back to that area. we have searched that. so it's a slow, progressive search. but that's just what searches are all about. so it's slow progress. >> and when do you think the underwater search -- because right now they've been searching in that area. the second ping, they said this was the most promising area. they were very enthusiastic, right? they've been using the towed

ping locator and now they've been down with the bluefin. when are they going to be done in that area? >> again, i don't have the details on the underwater search. i know with reference to the air search that we'll be out again today there is another eight missions that we have planned for. it's approaching an zac day. that won't stop the crews tomorrow. the weather hasn't been great the past two days. had to actually cancel some missions yesterday. but crews are ready and focused, raring to go today. >> because of this big development today, that there was this debris that they thought might have been a piece from the jet, does this make you think that perhaps there could be debris still on the surface? because you know a lot of people had said to us experts, at this point there could be no debris anywhere. the fact that they thought they might have had it on the beach

sort of maybe changed the parameters. >> i don't think there is anything unusual about the. it's been going for seven weeks as you said. you haven't actually managed to sight anything in terms of aircraft debris associated with the airplane yet. so it's a difficult, challenging environment. but the crews are able to search in those environments. they're well used to it. the aircraft has recently been upgraded to support that so we'll be going out again today. and we'll be continuing on for as long as is necessary to try and find something so we can get some closure for all the people involved. >> commander, thank you very much. for joining us this morning your time. richard quest joins me from kuala lumpur. you heard the commander, miguel is down in augusta, australia because this is how seriously they took the lead. they thought this might be it. everybody was there. everybody was analyzing the pictures. they're not giving up. they're looking at everything. what is the next move? that we could still have a piece of debris wash up on the beach

and the whole world think this is it and be wrong? >> absolutely. but the way that you often do get these incidents taking place is exactly debris washing up on shorelines. so the fact that it would be a piece of debris on a shoreline is not a huge surprise, erin. obviously, the fact that there is not a lot of debris, the fact there has been no debris, it would make it somewhat unusual. debris washing up as such is one of those issues that does happen with plane crashes at sea. in terms of the wider search, now it really does get much more difficult, because once bluefin has completed the ten kilometer radius around ping number 2, they have to rethink. do you start going around all the other pings down in the south indian ocean in that area? do you regroup? do you restrategize? but they're up to the task. they have known since they began

that this moment might come. and this is what they do for a living, these people. they are professional. so they will go back, look at the data, and decide where next. >> and richard, what is your bet on that, where next. still going to stick in the southern indian ocean, or are they going to open up and consider something more broadly? >> i think that they will continue in the area where they are for the time being. for the very simple reason that it is the best hope that they've got. it's where the inmarsat data pointed the plane would be. it's where the endurance fuel of the aircraft took it. it's where the pings are located. if you start to natural house apart, you're left with very little ideas. certainly ideas searching up in kandahar and looking for landing sites and anything else like that simply are not run as compares to what they're looking

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tonight questions about whether malaysia airlines flight 370 could have landed somewhere. australia's prime minister tony abbott was asked about that earlier today. i reports that mh 370 may have landed and not crashed. >> well, i have no advice whatsoever to suggest that there is any truth at all in that. our expert advice is that the aircraft went down somewhere in the indian ocean. >> it has been 48 days since the plane vanished, and still not one piece of debris has been found that promising piece that we've been looking at all day, as we said just moments before this program confirmed that they say it is not the plane. joining me now are aviation

analyst arthur rosenberg and jeff weise and les abend. jeff, let me start with you. there have been some reporting out of asia to that end about the plane being intact. why do you think there is a chance that that could be the case? >> well, in the absence as we noted many times, in the absence of any debris or wreckage, the only reason we have to believe that the plane is in the southern ocean is the assurances of the authorities. now, we have heard reference to this inmarsat data. we don't have that data. 'don't have the analysis, and we don't know what assumptions were put into it to produce this search area. all we have had to go on is the assertions by the malaysians and the australians as well. and you remember the language that tony abbott used when he assured, he spoke before parliament, he went up to china and told the chinese that it was very confident that we were on the verge of finding this plane. those promises have come up empty and left a lot of people wondering what were those

assumptions. what was that analysis? why did they say the plane was here in the first place? >> arthur, there has not been a single piece of debris found. that is why these reports and these stories, you saw the facial reaction on the prime minister of australia. there are people and family members who are very seriously asking that question because there has been no proof to the contrary. >> look, the bottom line is that it's certainly understandable why people are saying what they have gone, may have gone the northern route and is intact. >> or beached on an island in the indian ocean. that's another one. >> but we do have the inmarsat data, the radar data with performance data. well also have the pings. all of these coalesce in an area that shows a likely crash zone for the airport. i say if this plane landed intact or somewhat intact, which it may have done, it was in the south indian ocean. >> right. so intact could be in the ocean.

obviously, the questions asked was may have landed and not crashed was the way that was phrased. 48 days and no signs of the plane. are you confident the search area is correct? and would the only way to explain why there is no debris be that it really is intact in large part as a single or a couple big pieces on the bottom? >> i mean, none of us are confident about anything as part of this investigation. but everything, if you go by -- this is accident investigation. this is part of the process. we doubt things. you know, when we don't have enough information. but i contacted inmarsat, and i listened to the whole process that they went through. and it's incredible. >> so you actually have spoken to them and talked through this process. >> yeah. >> what did you find out? no one else has talked to them about this. >> well, he explained to me the whole process on how they got to the satellite. it's a very specific satellite. it's got a specific wobble to it. they checked other aircraft that were in the same position. nothing matched up in the north.

it all matched up in the south. and all of the sudden they readjusted the search area, as you know, about two or three weeks ago. and all of the sudden they got pings. where are these pings coming from? >> well, pings obviously is significant. but what you're saying, richard, what you're hearing les saysy haven't heard anyone else get that far with inmarsat that they actually walked him through what the satellite was like, how it wobbled, how it matched the plane, how they have looked at other planes and the possibility of going north. it was a lot more than trigonometry that led them to believe where this plane is from inmarsat. >> i have decided to humor jeff weise today. it's raining in kuala lumpur. okay, jeff, let's assume you're right for the purposes of this discussion. we do know that the plane flew for several hours afterwards. ignore the positioning of the inmarsat. straight forward handshakes. we know the plane communicated

for six to seven hours after the turn. we know that. that is a fact. so, jeff, where would it have landed in that environment? bearing in mind it's a 777, bearing in mind the countries in the northern corridor have already have checked the facts. they have already announced that there has been no debris found on the ground, that there has been no sightings of it at any airports. you can't put this thing down on a beach and hope to get away with it. diego garcia is not a runner, besides the fact it is too far. it's a military base. so put it all together, jeff, and i can't see that you've got a 777 with 239 people that you're going to be able to put on the ground and get away with it. >> that's an excellent point. i want to speak real briefly to what les said. in slate last friday we ran a piece. i talked to many experts.

>> let me go to les's point. and give me a chance to address what richard is saying there are people who have come up with scenarios where it could have landed in the beach off the water, right? are there places that you think it legitimately could have landed to address richard's question? >> i do. let me answer richard's question real quickly this way. this started out like a tom clancy novel. it was unlike anything we've seen before. it looked like a very deliberate and intentional and clever act where they departed from the gap in the radar coverage where it would be easiest for them to slip away. i think we should expect something unlikely to have happened with this flight. i don't think we should look to high probability outcomes like a crash in the ocean, things we've seen before like suicides. we should expect something strange and unusual to have happened. and yes, we have to really stretch our imagination to figure out how you doh you get a plane through all this radar kind of coverage. but to say it's hard to imagine it's hard to imagine how it could have been done, it's different than saying it couldn't have been done. >> jeff has done analysis of the

inmarsat data, raising a lot of questions. but you're saying they did look and compare the plane to other dots going north. all those comparisons were done. >> seven. seven planes. >> this airplane, those handshakes were from that airplane. that's the bottom line. and it did fly for as richard said between six and a half to seven hours afterwards. and they took all the calculations, the data, stuff that i've looked at in my own manuals to see where the airplane might have ended up. to me, this is the best data we have. >> all right. >> landing somewhere else, it's tough to hide a 650,000 pound airplane. >> thanks to all of you. we appreciate it. still to come, with no black box, how every crucial plane could be crucial. so if that piece that washed up on the beach was it, if that's all they had, could they find out who did it? and a teen flying in the wheel well of a plane for five hours surviving. for the first time we're going to see what that landing gear looks like tonight.

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>> reporter: if and when mh 370 is found, the hard work will begin. >> this is a huge, huge crime scene. >> reporter: forensic pathologist laurence says collecting evidence monumentally tough but crucial. >> you've got to gather up the evidence and try to reconstruct the events as to how what happened to the plane. >> reporter: the flight data recorder tracking dozens of plane functions for the entire flight if found should provide a trove of evidence. but investigators will want to see more. >> while we might see that systems are turned off and turned on and courses changed and courses are altered and altitudes change, we won't necessarily know who did it, unless we investigate the cockpit. >> reporter: if anything is left, the cockpit's interior, who was in it, even the door could answer the question, was there a struggle. >> i think there needs to be an inspection of the door that

locks the cockpit, because if in fact somebody was trying to break into the cockpit, there would be evidence easily observable on the door itself. >> reporter: the cockpit voice recorder could be revealing, but it records over itself ever two hours. the critical piece about 40 minutes into the flight. it won't be there. >> you don't get the bits where it first changed course. and that's what we really want. so we don't know who changed course. we don't know who was in control at this particular moment. >> reporter: the condition of the air frame, the seams holding it together could provide clues of the impact. was it violent or controlled? >> how it hit the water very much dictates on how it breaks up. it could well be. it's a very rugged airplane. >> reporter: but mh 370 accident, mechanical, or willful. >> this is totally a new paradigm of accidents. i believe the answers to this crash are in the cockpit.

who was in control of that airplane. >> reporter: the passengers themselves could help resolve the mystery. >> if you can retrieve bodies and examine the respiratory tract, one of the first things you look for is the presence of soot. finding soot below the level of the larynx would be a good indication of a fire. >> reporter: but if the cabin was depressurized before a fire -- >> passengers would most likely pass out. there would be no evidence of trauma to the body or something that you could see on autopsy if in fact there was a decompression at high altitude. >> reporter: evening passengers' cell phones and electronics might help tell the story of what happened if the plane is found searchers hope enough is left to fill in the blanks and solve the mystery. miguel marquez, cnn, perth. >> why one piece of debris matters so much. still to come, we're going live to the scene of the south korean

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breaking news on the capsized ferry in south korea. so far 159 people are confirmed dead. 143 are still missing. tonight investigators seizing boxes of information from the ship's owner, trying to find out if the ferry was overloaded when it started to take on water. this is central to the investigation. it could shed light on why the ferry sank so fast. the south korean coast guard tells cnn that the ship had a maximum capacity of 3,968 tons in cargo. now here is how that breaks down. 88 cars, 60 trucks, 247 shipping containers. now, according to the manifest, which we have obtained what was on the ferry, it had about 124 cars, 56 trucks, 105 shipping containers and four vehicles

that are only being described as heavy. it's unclear whether it exceeded the limit or didn't. but that is going to be a crucial question. kyung lah is out front on a boat of the search area this morning in jindo, south korea. kyung, when are they going to know how much weight was on the ship, whether this could have been part of the problem? >> well, we asked that very question to the korean coast guard. and what they told us is up until they are able to lift this entire 6,000 ton vessel off of the sea floor, they won't know exactly how much cargo it has. they may know from the manifest. they may have some figures. but what needs to be sorted out is exactly how heavy it was, how much cargo they had until they lift it offer the sea for that. >> i know they will be able to tell where it was positioned because things shifted. one week in the search and i know they thought they might find a lot of the children in

the cafeteria. they did not. was that any kind of a sign for hope, or what is the latest? >> it's a sign of confusion that what they think is happening isn't actually happening. what they can say is that they have to keep going under the water. so a weekend, you can see that the search is still very much an active search. you see all of those orange vessels. those inflatables. those are divers. they're still going down into the water, still beneath the surface, still searching with their hands, hoping to find something, erin. >> so they are still hoping. i know there have been reports that there are no more air pockets, the bodies they found so far indicated there may have been, but the air obviously is no longer there. but they're still calling this a search? >> they're calling it a search because they're playing a very, very gentle dance with the families. and that might be the best way to do it.

they're trying to be as respectful to the parents as possible. they don't want to call it a recovery yet, even though it has all the markings of a recovery. right now, until they can get more of these children home, they are still telling these parents this is a rescue. >> kyung, thank you very much. and "outfront" now, retired captain paul rodan. captain, with these parents waiting and hoping against hope for some kind of a miracle, their answer, they're going to demand answers, and they must to find out exactly what happened here. what about the ship's stability? the third mate who was in charge obviously at the helm, a 26-year-old young woman said i made mistakes. for some reason, the steering turned so much faster than usual. if that is the case, what could have caused that when you think about the cargo? >> well, good evening, erin, and thanks for having me on your show. i would say that the steering and the rapid turn could be an

impact. but the fact that a weakened state of stability may be the case is evident. you mentioned on your reporting about the amount of cargo. as important is the location of that cargo. and generally, the higher it is, the less stable the ship will be. if you think of a rocking chair, for example, the rocking chair is designed to support a person throughout a motion of rock. but a person standing on that chair may not have the same amount of stability. so likewise on a ship, the higher the weight, the less stability that ship will have. >> so what you're saying is yes, it's important what the weight was. but even if the weight didn't exceed the limit, it possibly is the way that they had it where it was placed on the ship. >> yes, correct. >> so if the cargo starts to slide to one side, it would seem that that would happen not totally irregularly on a ferry.

what could have made this be particularly vulnerable, this boat? >> correct. the safety regulations generally require the cargo be lashed down, especially in heavy seas. but in a case like this, if the ship were to heel over and the cargo were not lashed down, going one side would decrease the stability that much more. >> we also of course have reporting as no doubt you're familiar, captain, with, that there had been renovations on the ferry they increased the weight by 180 tons. obviously the ferry had gone about its trail since those renovations. so the renovations themselves didn't necessarily cause this. do you think they could have been part of it? for example, to your point about the rocking chair, could they have shifted the center of gravity or something on the ship and maybe they didn't know that and therefore the cargo went in what would have been the right place and had become the wrong place? >> i do believe that retrofits to the ship could have had an impact, especially if they were weight add high. they would typically want to

compensate for that higher weight through ballast or additional weight down low. and if that ballast or cargo were not placed down low in the ship, then the stability could be degraded. >> all right, captain, thank you very much. >> thank you. >> questions are also growing tonight about the ferry's owner. he is a mysterious millionaire who is rarely seen in public. recently his company had fallen on hard times. kyung lah is again "outfront" with the story. >> reporter: investigators raided the offices of chung hae jin marine company, boxing evidence for the criminal probe into the ferry disaster. officers also swarmed the home of the patriarch of the family that controlled the company. a businessman known in korea as the millionaire with no face. no face because you rarely see him. this video from 2013 shows one of the few times he has been seen in public. his name is yu byung un. he has an artistic alter ego, an

identity online as a photographer dubbed ahe who has won international acclaim. yu and his two sons control through an investment vehicle and subsidiary the shipping company that operated the ferry. korean tax authority says under the family's ownership, the ferry company was struggling financially, and reported a loss last year. in the late 1990s, a yu-owned ferry company that operated on the han river in seoul also went interrupt. days after the ferry sank, the shipping company sent out its president to apologize. but not mr. yu. he's had his brush with bad publicity before. yu byung is a preacher and was a religious cult leader in 1987. 33 people from his group were found dead, bound and gagged in a factory outside of seoul. officials investigated it as a mass murder/suicide, but found no evidence tying to it yu. but yu was convicted on fraud

charges and spent four years in jail for tax evasion. the arrests piling up as a criminal dragnet widens. financial authorities tell cnn the probe into yu and his sons continues. cnn's calls to the mysterious millionaire and chong hae jin company were not returned. kyung lah, south korea. >> pretty amazing part of the story. still to come, a teen travels in the wheel well of a plane and lives. tonight we're going to show you pictures of the landing gear on that jet, the jet he flew for five hours. look at the footprints. was that really where this teen was? we're going show you. plus, the death toll growing in the ebola outbreak. dr. sanjay gupta was there. his exclusive reporting is up next. and when you put them in charge of making an unbeatable truck... ... good things happen. this is the ram 1500.

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nausea, diarrhea, and headache. some side effects can lead to dehydration, which may cause kidney problems. if your pill isn't giving you the control you need, ask your doctor about non-insulin victoza. it's covered by most health plans. now let's check in with anderson with a look what is coming up on ac 360. hey, anderson. >> much more of the breaking news in the program. what sparked hope that a large piece of metallic debris found on a beach in australia was from flight 370 now appears to be yet another false lead. why anything can be found on the surface of the search area. randi kaye has the story on how this part of the ocean is basically a floating junkyard.

also, the tragic incident off the coast of korea could have been worse. a young woman may have safed a third of the survivors and may have died doing it. her name is park ji yung. cooking his book to cover that sick veterans were waiting for medical care. 40 veterans died while waiting. we're keeping them honest. it's all ahead at the top of the hour, erin. >> thanks, anderson. a new development in the case of the teen stowaway who miraculous survived a five-hour flight outside the body of ooh 767 yet. a new picture shows the we'll well of a 767 where official says the 15-year-old travelled from san jose, california to maui, surviving sub-zero temperatures and a near zero total lack of oxygen. you can see a lot of fingerprints in that landing gear. shows that he was actually able to clamber up there.

and 3,000 tons of the landing gear coming down around him. the teen is not the first to attempt to fly in a wheel well. in 2010 the body of devonte tisdell was found. his mother janet washington is with me now. janet, just hearing this must have made you had to relive such a horrible time that is always going to be with you. when you heard this story, what went through your mind? >> all i can think about is another child could have been hurt and lost. and it shook me so much. it really bothered me. >> i mean, johnette, the boy was trying to visit his mother in somalia. that's the reason he got up into the wheel well.

but detecti but del vonta, what was he trying to do? >> at the moment i couldn't say he was with his father. i was living in baltimore, and they were in charlotte. he was with his father. what i've heard is maybe he was trying to come see me or something. but i'm not sure what was going on. we're not even sure how he got to the airport to get on the plane. we have no proof. we have no -- i'm sorry, we have no video or anything showing him on the airfield or anything. so we just waiting for answers that we need so desperately for closure and everything else. >> and you're still waiting for those answer now after several years. >> yes. >> i mean, are you surprised in this story that this boy was able to again, like your son, evade airport security, climb up to a jet, get into the landing

gear? it almost seems implausible from the start. >> yes, yes. because with the airport security being the way that it's supposed to be, he should -- security at the airport is supposed to be much tighter than what it is. and with these kids these days getting in and out of these airports and it's not just kids. it's grownups also that i've heard. and i'm just trying to figure out what security is doing at these airports that they can't catch these people. because what if it was a terrorist or a something even more traumatic of just kids getting in there? >> and i mean, these kids, of course, you're the mother of one of these children. >> yes. >> you have lost your son. we don't have all the details about this latest case, but it sounds like this particular boy, jonnette, walked away. i mean,

deadl how do you reconcile that with what happened to your son? >> all i can say is by the grace of god, by the grace of god he walked away with no injuries. and just a little dirty, as they said. i am still figuring -- trying to figure out how, truthfully, i just want -- you know, it is amazing how it could happen. >> well, jeanette, thank you very much for taking the time and talking to us tonight. >> thank you. >> and joining me now is dr. sanjay gupta. sanjay, you just heard the story of another mother whose son did not survive the passage in the wheel well. but this kid, how the heck did it happen? >> two things that were working against him and one thing that was in his favor, as you point out it is a very unlikely story no matter how you look at it. when you rise up that high your

ability to absorb oxygen in your body is dramatically decreased. the air is very thin up there. he probably would have passed out and was not experiencing anything after a couple of minutes. but what is interesting, the super cold probably threw his body into almost a state of hibernation, suspended animation, like it is hibernating, and when he came back down to the warmer air, with oxygen, he was probably able to wake up. >> it is incredible he survived and is functioning. other people have had brain damage -- >> you worry about the oxygen getting to the brain. we do this in the operating room sometimes, super chill the body so that the brain doesn't just demand the oxygen. you couldn't have planned this. it is remarkable that it

happened. the two competing forces worked in his favor. >> the significant development in this, you all probably saw sanjay in west africa, in guinea covering the ebola outbreak. doctors are struggling to stop it. it is one of the world's most deadly virus and strains in the world right now. spreading fast, the virus claiming 22 lives in guinea and liberia, the authorities say there are another 100 cases and it could spread. sanjay, the number of cases, i mean, it seems to be spreading. the death rate is incredibly high. they don't have obviously a lot of medical care there if this were to spread elsewhere in the world you could be talking about something with epic proportions. you're with the doctors, can they contain it? >> i have a lot more faith now. it is the first time i covered the story of ebola, it is widespread, finding itself in the middle of a city with 2

million people and an airport. three things are happening simultaneously. as soon as somebody is potentially ill they are getting them isolated quickly. this is dangerous work. but then they're doing something else. they're immediately going out and finding all the contacts of those people, as well. people they may have come in touch with that could also be potentially carriers, people who might get sick later on. and then finally they're testing people to make sure they actually have it or don't have it. what i describe, even five years ago they couldn't do it all simultaneously. and i think as a result of that they have a better shot of containing this. >> all right, so what about -- i'm curious, you're sitting here, all jokes aside, you were able to get on a plane and fly internationally out of guinea, was it easy to do? because obviously you're talking about an international airport. somebody could have come in contact with them, how easy would it have been to get on a plane and come here? >> well, there are a couple of

precautio precautions, they have you fill out question and answers. and they take a temperature because a fever is one of the l earliest signs you have infection, but those are pretty basic things. >> the questionnaire is in self-reporting. >> self-reporting. in order for somebody to pass this virus on to somebody else, the person has to be really, really sick. you're in bed, you're not walking around the streets of conakry. with pretty basic questions, isolation, it seems to be making a difference. by the way, mortality rates are 90%, closer to 60%, still terrible but making a dent. >> all right, dr. sanjay gupta,

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nine years ago today, the very first video has been posted on line, and since then, bill n billions of videos have been posted. >> reporter: you are looking at the very first video ever uploaded to youtube. it was nine years ago that one of youtube's founders uploaded "me at the zoo". >> really, really, really long. >> reporter: it was a really, really, really unremarkable video lasting 18 seconds. happy birthday, youtube, and with that boring zoo video you ushered in what many consider to be the greatest genre of youtube video. the animal video, from a lion

wishing it could eat a kid dressed in a zebra costume to a camel wrapping its jaws around a little girl's head. how time flies, even nine years when you're watching animal videos. from keyboard cat to? ♪ ♪ ♪ >> reporter: we've passed, lord knows, how much time watching a sneezing panda or a sneezing goat. if it is not a goat sneezing it is goats screaming like humans. we're wide awake watching a sleepwalking dog. but when it comes to video being watched, the winner is not the cute animal video, which racked

up 1.9 billion videos, youtube is not celebrating. don't light those birthday candles just yet we'll celebrate youtube's ninth anniversary in may when youtube.com became public. but they're paying homage to that first video in may. but there is plenty to say about this and a jar. one poster spoke for us all when he said i'm watching a dog in a suit eating peanut butter. what am i doing with my life? you're watching finger lickin good, animal videos, jeanne moos, cnn. >> i can't even choose, but obviously i have to choose the camel one, but i don't know, that is hard to choose. anyway, there is going to be lots more of those where those videos came from. currently 100 hours of videos are uploaded to youtube every

minute, some is it absolutely worthless, but thank you for joining us, anderson starts how. good evening, it is 8:00 p.m. here and 8:00 a.m. in the search. breaking news on what doubt there was, a piece of metal that washed up on a western australia beach, just one of several new developments in the investigation that we'll address tonight. also tonight is the search for the missing. the ferry crew member who did not abandon ship, this is her, she stayed and saved dozens of young lives, sacrificing her own, we'll tell you her remarkable feats. and later on "ac360," we'll tell you what is truly outrageous, what this investigation reveals about a hospital that kept patients, veterans, waiting months for care. 40 people died waiting. one doctor says the hospital covered up