replaced the backup computer. he said it was a little difficult in the space suit, it was a little short, but he got it done. >> all right, that does it for us, we'll see you for another edition of "ac360," hope you join us. cnn tonight starts now. good evening, i'm bill weir. every day his son asks, any word on mom? and he struggles on what to tell him. an object of interest turned out to be one more in a long line of false leads. a young woman gave out so many life jackets to the passengers on the sinking ferry. and in the ultimate sacrifice,

she did not save one for herself. her rare sliver of heroism in a story filled with so much sadness. she says she's not running for president. not at all. a lot of liberals hope she changes her mind in the next couple years. it's not smart to bet against elizabeth warren. she battled the big banks, became the first female senator from massachusetts. we'll talk sexism, class warfare and what she thinks of the other woman with a shot at the oval office, hillary clinton. let's begin with the seemingly never ending mystery of flight 370. ivan watson is in beijing, the intended destination for so many frustrated families. but let's begin with the usual, michael, on day 48 it was an emotional yo-yo. it says so many about this search that a piece of sheet metal could raise and then dash hopes. what do you know about that

particular object of interest? >> reporter: yeah, it is being ruled out, i have to say, bill. the hopes were raised, there was a current of excitement or perhaps anticipation when word came out. it was about eight feet or so long, and two feet wide. this is in a place where i used to surf when i was a kid. it is a lovely sort of coastal town. and this would have really set the place alight if it had been something. turns out it was not. the police took it up to a town three hours south of here. sent photographs to the investigators and they had a close look at it and now they pretty much ruled it out. they say it has nothing to do with mh-370. which is obviously disappointing. but the officials were cautious all along and said the more they saw the photographs the less excited they were. the bluefin-21 continues its mission, on mission 12 actually. mission 11 has finished. search officials tell us now 90% of that focused search area has

now been scanned. the news, of course, the same with all of those missions, nothing of significance, bill. >> and once they get to 100% what happens next? >> reporter: well, the search will move on, you're right. if the story is the same with the final 10%. we heard from the australian defense minister, david johnston, who said they were in contact with malaysia and china, also on the next phase, details to be announced likely next week. but we know pretty much it will involve that wider arc miles along the suspected flight path. also more likely that more assets will be brought in. they're talking about a more powerful side scanner, there is one called the orion, that is towed behind the ship and sends back realtime data to the mother

ship, of course, being towed. it doesn't have to resurface like the bluefin. and also has much more ability to be deeper. we expect to learn much more about that in the days ahead. >> we appreciate it. let's turn to ivan now in beijing. what was the emotional ride like for the families there today? >> reporter: well, you know, we asked one woman, for example, what she thought about this object of interest. and was she disappointed when it turned out that it did not belong to the plane. and she said no, i don't believe in any of the information that they put out anymore. and i think that underscores the suspicion that many of these families have about the investigation, about the search. about the information that they're being fed. there is a great deal of suspicion and doubt coming from many of these families that i talked to. another poignant note is that this woman just recently posted a photo of herself with her missing husband, one of the passengers, both of them wearing

birthday hats at a birthday celebration saying honey, i'm waiting for you to come home. and i think that shows also that many of these families still believe that their loved ones, and there were 153 chinese nationals on board the plane still believe that they are alive now more than 45 days after the plane disappeared. the families, the families' committees that have set themselves up here during this agonizing vigil, they have pleaded and begged for the malaysian authorities to send some kind of high-level delegation to come here to beijing to meet with the families to ask very specific questions. data points. they want to know information from the satellite inmarsat. transmitters that were on board the plane. they don't believe that the investigators are searching in the right place in the indian ocean for this missing plane. and there is a big gap in the narrative between what the malaysian authorities have been saying, and what the desperate

chinese families feel on the ground may have happened to this plane. again, a lot of suspicion. and the chinese families say again and again you are lying to us. it is very dramatic to hear this day after day at the hotels where malaysian airlines has been accommodating these people throughout this long vigil. >> given the lack of information, the lack of transparency and their grief it is certainly understandable what they're going through. ivan thanks, also to michael holmes. let's bring in a premiere underwater expert, he's been down to the titanic more than anyone. also joining us, former faa inspector david souci, author of why planes crash. tim, if it does get to 100% of that search area is there a chance that they will go back

over any of it, that they missed something? >> they're covering it really well, i would imagine what they said is the higher probability search area. 90% higher probability. i would totally assume there is a much wider, maybe four times wider search area than they're actually saying. this is the highest probability. so the only thing to do is -- well, you have choices. continue doing this, quit, or find another place to look. and right now, there are two options, quitting is not an option. and finding another place is not an option, so i would continue the search. >> what about the orion, they get dragged behind a ship. >> first, i would say it could not cover 100%. because remember at the beginning they said that the bluefin cannot go more than 4500 meters down.

and in this area, it was deeper. i mean, there are already some holes in their search. i mean, they cannot cover 100% with the bluefin. and the orion is a very competent tool. but without a map you don't know which one is the best equipment between the auv or the deep towing sonar. you know? because if it is very bumpy on the bottom you cannot choose a towing sonar. you will have a lot of gap area where the auv is better. but if it is pretty flat or if the towing sonar is very good, they should have a map first. we started with the map, and when we had the map we said okay, we can use this. we had the orion on board, another rov, we had the remus, all the equipment, just when we got to the map we said okay. with all the equipment we know which one we have to use. >> should they be releasing at least some of the pictures what they're seeing down there? >> it would be nice for the families to see. but sonar pictures of the bottom

is nothing. >> like a football field. you know? >> and i know you have gone over this. if they're scanning with sonar unless there is an anomaly in the way, they will have data. granted, it may be a little bit deeper but they have programmed it to go a little bit deeper. and the other towing assets if they do bring them in there, they will be effective. but they still will take just as much time as the auvs, they are not going to rush things. but they may help by adding two assets at the same time. but you can't tow and launch the auv at the same time. >> you can be in a different area, a few miles, like ten or 15 miles away. >> yeah, two vessels. >> yeah, we need two vessels. >> let me ask our former faa inspector david souci. the malaysian airlines say they have put together a preliminary report.

i can't imagine how many pages that is. but we have no idea because they're not making it public, should they? >> yeah, they should actually. the question is what is in the report? would it answer the questions the families are asking? and the answer is actually no. the only thing that would be in the report typically is just the description of the damage to the aircraft. there is no aircraft, so there wouldn't be that in it. then it also includes a situation, the process of where the aircraft went from, where it went to and who did what. we don't have that either. so that wouldn't be in there. the thing that is important, who did the communication between the two air traffic control areas, and when it was handed off and who did those communications. and then subsequently what the malaysian authorities did after that. that should not be held from the public, in my opinion. >> and let me ask you, what do

you think is more likely at this point, something under the water or on the surface? >> well, more likely. that is a good question, but more likely under water if they're in the right place. >> my feeling is they should find debris first. without debris we don't know where is the aircraft. it could be a thousand miles north. we don't know. >> and david, what do you think? do you think they will find something down deep? >> well, i think they will as long as the pings were really from the black box. if they find they were not from the black box then we're talking surface debris by far. >> it is really worth repeating that the air france flight that went off the coast of brazil, they had found debris within a few days. by three weeks in, they found 640 poses of floating wreckage and 50 bodies. and it still took two years to find the black boxes.

>> it was two years, but not consecutive two years, because we stopped some of the time. as with the malaysian authorities, who is paying the bill -- >> for example -- >> if you took the down time, how much was it in real time? four or five months? >> yeah, with the auv, we did 66 days consecutive, and we had to stop because it was the matter of the money. and after six months later we started again, and eight or ten days later we found the wreck. >> because you were just so close. >> it was so close, but we were short of money. but during the 66 days we were diverted for, because somebody said maybe there is a place where the submersible here or something, blah, blah, blah, and we lose two weeks. >> and then the rov operations, it was salvaged, that takes time, too, finding it and performing the rov work is time consuming. >> but the debris work for me -- >> it is essential to keep looking for debris. without it --

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search, we haven't found anything yet in the area that we're searching. but the point i make is that australia will not rest until we have done everything we humanly can to get to the bottom of this mystery. >> that was australian prime minister tony abbott earlier. but no matter how ernest they are, it was a day when another promising lead came up empty. so we wondered how the families of the missing on flight 370 react on days like this. pralhad shirsath's wife was on that flight. he joins me once again exclusively on skype. it's good to see you. we understand next month will be your 18th wedding anniversary, tell me about your wife. >> yeah, next month we are married for 18 years. our 18-year anniversary. my wife, she is a very, very loving person. and all the time i have been doing an international job for

the last ten years, but there is no single day that she is not with me, although i was alone outside the country. she has been a chemistry lecturer in the college, and i know on many instances she has been helping the poor students, not only coaching but primarily just helping the poorer students so they get an education. she comes from a lower middle class family so she was really thinking about educating people and helping poorer students. >> well, it sounds like both of you have gigantic hearts. you are an ngo worker devoted to getting clean water to people. and you have been working in north korea for a couple of years. you have two sons. how old are they? and i imagine they ask about their mom daily. >> yeah, my older son is 16 years old.

his name is rahul, he is in the 12th grade now. for the last 40 plus days he's not been able to concentrate or study. every ten or 15 minutes he asks me, papa is there any new news? and he heard yesterday that the australian people, they found some objects in the sea. and he said that no, papa, it is not possible. they will never find it there. they are looking in the wrong place. and every ten or 15 minutes he comes back. and the younger son, he has just gone silent and he does not talk about anything. when we start to talk in the house about the plans, he just keeps quiet or leaves the place. so that is the situation we are working through, the last 47 or 48 days. >> that is horrible. so do you -- we heard reports earlier some of the families in beijing had stopped listening to anything the malaysian

authorities say. do you keep keyed in to the latest information or do you discount all you hear? >> yeah, what -- we do get some e-mails and phone calls from malaysian authorities. and basically, this is very, very trying information. they tell us okay. we are with families, we can understand the situation you're going through and we are searching so many kilometers, so many ships are deployed, so many aircrafts are deployed and that is it. but they're not really coming up with real information related to the plane or related to the communication, related to this position. or related -- they're not covering any information. and therefore, it is really difficult to say anything about it. >> i know some family members believe that the plane landed somewhere, maybe in afghanistan or china. but those opinions are mostly discounted by others who are more concentrated on details,

questions, those 26 specific questions. where do you lie? what do you think happened? >> yeah, those 26 questions, we had sent to the authorities. none of the questions have been answered so far. and, if they are searching in the south indian sea, we don't know based on what data they have. we don't know. >> it is the pinger they heard on april 9th. and also the fuel consumption patterns and the satellite data. it is the best clues they have. >> well, what they are saying from -- right from day one, if you remember, that that is impossible -- these are the words they are using but they are not 100% sure about anything. they say possibly these things

are from black boxes, things are similar to black boxes, something like that. so there is uncertainty when they say something. they are not sure, 100% sure about anything. so that is what is happening right from the beginning. >> this is a tough question. but have you let go of the idea that you will see your wife again? is it just now a matter -- >> oh, no, i cannot let go of that idea. because we deeply are hoping, i cannot think that in my heart. my children are saying she has to come back. because so far we have not found any reason to lose that hope. malaysian authorities have not given any information or any solid -- proof that it is no more. we have no reason to lose that hope. and we believe that -- many people -- it must have landed

somewhere, if not in the indian ocean, somewhere where they're not searching. it might be somewhere, right from day one from march 8th, when i heard they had no clue about where the plane was missing with so many people. i thought that it is a part of a big, big game. a plane cannot go missing like this. it would be very hard. >> well, i know it is cold comfort, i'm sure, but there are a lot of hearts in america watching this going out to you and your boys, prahlad, we hope that you can find some peace and we appreciate your time. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> when we come back, a hero in the middle of so much tragedy. a young woman who saved countless passengers on the south korean ferry and she was not much older than those teenagers on board. stay with us.

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the death toll in the south korean ferry disaster now climbed to 159. 143 people still missing after the sinking ship went down. and the captain, ten members of the ship's crew have been arrested. kyung lah is live for us on a

boat off the coast of jindo, south korea. you've had a report on this situation, kyung, including the face of the millionaire owner of the company. tell me about this. >> reporter: well, he is the patriarch of the family who owns this company, a billionaire, somebody who is described as owning the ferry. he has an alter-ego, a still camera family man who takes pictures from one window of his house. that is where he comes up with the name. the people of korea know him as a photographer, the millionaire with no face. he's also known for his connection in 1987 to a massu we side of a religious secretary. he is connected to that secretary. he was never convicted for any sort of connection directly to the massu we side.

but he was jailed for four years for financial crimes in connection with that massu we side. so an extremely interesting character and what authorities here have told us is that they have once again looked into his financial records. the ferry company last year did post a negative loss. and they are worried and concerned about whether or not the financials may have played a factor in what happened in this very accident, bill. >> and before i let you go, briefly, kyung, has the posture of the divers behind you changed at all? no air pockets? all this time, is it now in recovery, rather than rescue? >> reporter: well, it is eerily silent. it feels a little more silent here than it has in the last couple of days. but take a look for yourself, bill. if you look out here and you see just the sheer number of divers, they're all surrounding that barge. that barge and those two buoys sit atop where the sunken ferry

sits below the water, 65 feet below. and you can see just from the number of diver whose are out here that they haven't dropped as far as numbers. the urgency that we're seeing from the divers as they go into the water and try to find anything, that also has not changed. >> okay, kyung lah, appreciate that. let's turn now to cnn's madison park who also has details on one inspiring story amid all this sadness. a woman named park-ji-young. i understand you attended her memorial service. just an amazing -- exploits that the survivors are telling about what she did as the ship went down. tell us about that. what happened with her. >> my colleague and i visited park's memorial where she was earlier this week. and there were so many flowers filling up the funeral parlor because there were so many strangers and people in south korea who wanted to thank her for what she did. there was such a sense that here was a young woman who was not

much older than the students she was helping who put her life on the line and wouldn't even put a life jacket on herself until other passengers were able to find a life vest. so there was such an outpouring of appreciation for what she did. >> i understand she went to another level to get more life jackets and refused to put one on, even as her fellow crew members were escaping on rescue boats. she closed the door, if you can imagine, the ship turned sideways, so people would have a pathway out. dozens of those survivors have her to thank. and have they been showing up and paying respects to her family? >> from what her family told us, there was one man who had walked in earlier this week. and the family didn't recognize him. and they saw that he had some sort of a head injury, so they asked him who he was. and they sat down and had tea with him. and this man explained that he had bloodied his head. and basically this young woman

had put a towel on him and made sure that he got to safety. and he told the family that he felt so indebted to her that he had to come by and pay her a visit and pay respects to the family. >> incredible, your other colleague, paula hancocks said she got this job just a few months ago, had to drop out of college when there was a tragedy in her family. but she saved so many families. it is one glimmer of hair yoism in this tragedy. madison park, appreciate your reporting. when we come back, senator elizabeth warren, loved by liberals, loathed by wall street fat cats. despite being one of the most popular women in government, she says she is not running for president in a couple years. i'll ask her why when we come back. [ thunder crashes ] [ female announcer ] some people like to pretend a flood could never happen to them.

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when she was 12 years old, my next guest told a lie that would eventually lead to the u.s. senate. see it happened when she found her 50-year-old mother crying, struggling to fit into her best dress so she could apply for a minimum wage job at sears.

a desperate move in the wake of her father's heart attack. is it too tight, her mom asked, the girl looked her in the eye and said you look great. mom got the job after that white lie. and from that moment elizabeth warren has had a soft spot for all of those families on the brink of ruin. she has a passion for inequality, and it went viral during her campaign against scott brown. >> there is nobody in this country who got rich on his own. nobody. you built a factory out there, good for you. but i want to be clear. you moved your goods to market on the roads that the rest of us paid for. you hired workers the rest of us paid to educate. you built a factory and it turned into something terrific or a great idea, god bless. keep a big hunk of it. but part of the underlying social contract is you take a hunk of it and pay it forward

for the next kid who comings along. >> those words helped lead to victory and senator elizabeth warren's new book "a fighting chance" describes that journey from that little white lie. into the machine of washington, welcome to cnn tonight. >> thank you, it is good to be here. >> some say that barack obama's obsession with health care reform was based on watching his mom get sick. i wonder if your passion is sort of driven by watching your folks go broke. >> i think that what i learned very early was that people can work hard, they can play by the rules. and then they can take such a financial smack that it just turns them upside down and they can never quite get their feet under them again. a kid doesn't forget something like that. >> right. your ticket out of small town oklahoma was the debate team. >> yeah. >> when did you know you were good? >> you know, i just knew i was tough. i started debating in high school. and figured at some point in there, there was no money for me to go to college.

but i realized there were places that had debate scholarships and that was my chance. >> and you had to ask your dad for a tax return so you could apply for a hardship scholarship. >> yeah. >> and you never spoke of it, about giving back? >> i knew we were tight on money, we had lost the station wagon, we nearly lost our house, my mom worked this minimum wage job, and clearly she wanted to be home. by the time i came along my three brothers were grown, they were in the military. and i think my mom and dad knew what their lives were going to be until he had that heart attack. and it just turned everything upside down. so when i got ready, i had this plan. i was always a girl with a plan. and so i had this plan that i found two colleges that had debate scholarships. and i wanted to apply to both of them and i saved my baby-sitting money to pay the application fee. and my plan was, i figured, i would tell my mom and dad after i got admitted and i would show

them that college was really going to be free, that this was something i could actually do. and i found out part way through the process i had to have a financial aid form. and that meant i had to see my parents' tax returns. >> and you saw and realized you were poor? >> we were poor. >> fast forward, you get the records, you go to law school. you spent a lot of time in a lot of bankruptcy courtrooms trying to understand -- that became your area of expertise? >> yeah. >> so you heard these stories, it fueled something in you. it must have. >> it did. i would sit in the back of these courtrooms and gather lots and lots of data about the families that went broke. and what i really thought i would find is that those were people who somehow you know had gone out to the mall and gone crazy or were gaming the system. instead, what this hard research showed was that people filed for bankruptcy, go broke, mostly for one of three reasons.

they have a terrible medical problem in the family. you're out of work for a long, long period of time or there is a divorce or a death in the family. in fact, those three reasons account for more than 90% of all the bankruptcy filings. >> when the idea of a consumer financial protection bureau came up this was going to be the scalpel that you would finally get to fix this sick patient. but it turned out to be one of the biggest knife fights in recent political history. >> yeah. >> what was the lowest part of watching that get ripped to shreds? >> so i talked about in the book. we needed a consumer agency to be there on the side of families. someone who would say hey, listen, you don't get to trick families on mortgages. you don't get to trap them on credit cards. you got to get rid of that fine print where you're hiding all of this stuff and make it so people can read them. so that was the fight we got into. the worst part is we fight and we fight. we got the agency through the

house of representatives. that happened late in 2009. in 2010 it is in the senate. and i still remember the day. the phone rings, it is early in the morning. i have actually been down in the basement on the treadmill and i huff and puff and pick up the phone and the first words are the consumer agency is dead. they're not going to report it out of the senate. it is not going to happen. and here is the worst part. i said well, are we at least going to get a vote? and the answer was no. they were just going to suffocate it in the crib, report out a bill with no consumer agency. and you know why? because none of the senators or many of the senators did not want to have to vote against families by saying we're not going to pass this agency. but they didn't want to have to vote against the banks. >> right. >> saying that they would pass the agency. so the plan was do what the banks want. kill the agency, but do it quietly and mysteriously.

>> but that was not the end. it survived that near death experience. but you as the head of that agency, everyone thought it was yours. the president had to pull you, you were just too politically radioactive. >> we went at it with a lot of other nonprofit groups, hammer and tongues. we thought we got that agency through. the president signed it into law as part of the dodd frank reforms. and the president asked me to set the agency up and that is what i got to do. >> but you didn't get to lead it. would you trade your senate job for that? >> look, i made no secret of the fact i wanted to stay and run the agency. >> do you think you had more power than you do in the senate? >> the president didn't appoint me to stay and run it. but he put somebody in who was really good, in fact somebody i had hired. but look what happened. i end up with the incredible

honor of representing the people of the commonwealth of massachusetts. i sit on the banking committee where i can help to protect that little consumer agency. >> and you had a big say in who got to be the head of the federal reserve bank which is an interesting story. we're going to get into the senate. the difference between raging against the machine and being a cog in it when we come back. and the three words i like in politico. the three words that strike terror across the land, president elizabeth warren. we'll be right back.

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make every stay more rewarding and feel the hamptonality. the question i really want to ask is about how tough you are. tell me a little bit about the last few times you have taken the biggest financial institutions on wall street all the way to a trial. anybody? >> we do not -- >> no. >> have to bring people to -- a trial or -- >> well, i appreciate that you

say you don't have to bring them to trial. my question is when did you bring them to trial? >> we have not had to do it as a practical matter to achieve our supervisory goals. >> that is senator elizabeth warren at her very first banking housing and urban affairs committee hearing in february. taking on the federal regulators. and did you not get the memo that senators were not supposed to humiliate people from their own party? >> look, i just have a very clear view on this, the regulators don't work for the banks, they work for the american people. >> did it work, though? does that have any effect? because i want to show you a quote here, that was back when you were trying to get the commercial financial center up and running, you said my first choice is strong consumer agency, my second choice is no agency at all and plenty of blood and teeth left on the floor. that is the kind of fire your

base loves. ted cruz says something like that your base goes crazy. does it work in the machinery, in the saucer of the senate that is supposed to cool down the over-heated rhetoric? >> so one of the very interesting things about being a senator, is that i've learned there are a lot of tools in the toolbox. so, you know, we think about changing the world through passing legislation. and i'm all for that, and i've got some great pieces i'm working on. i'm partnered with john mccain to try to get a new 21st century glass steigel that says we have to separate boring banking from the high risk wall street banking. there's that, but there's more. there's a lot of law out there right now. that the regulatory agencies have. but the regulatory agencies have to pick it up and use it. and one of the jobs of the

united states senate is to oversea those regulatory agencies. and so when i have bank regulators in front of me and talk to them about whether or not they're really enforcing the law. then we've got an opportunity, we don't have to pass new laws. we have to get them to do their jobs. and frankly there have been some signs that there are changes now at some of these agencies and i'm really glad to see that. >> you talk about an episode in the late 90s, there was a bankruptcy bill that the big financial firms were trying to gut. ted kennedy became your angel, you went to first lady hillary clinton who encouraged her husband to veto it. in your last book you wrote that after hillary as new york senator reversed her stance on that, you wrote, it seems that hillary could not afford such a principled position as senator. what's your relationship with her now? >> i think is terrific. she's out there doing a lot of

good work. you. >> signed a letter along with other lawmakers encouraging her to run for president. why don't you want to run for president? >> i'm not running for president. i'm working right now on the issues i talk about in this book. america's middle class has been hammered for a generation now. my life's work has been just to try to level the playing field. washington works for those who can hire an army of lobbyists and lawyers. not so much for regular families. so i have had one fight after another. that's why the book is called a fighting chance, in order to get out there to fight for these families, to fight to level the playing field. that's what i'm working on right now. >> but my question is less about ambition, and more about your cause. and the soul of the party. if hillary wins in a couple

years, odds are she's going to bring in the robert reubens and the larry summers, the kind of wall street insiders that you are sort of philosophically opposed. doesn't the elizabeth warren democratic party matter to you as opposed to one led by hillary who gives speeches to goldman sachs? >> i think what we have to remember is that we live our values every single day. and for me, right now, what that means is fighting for the things we need to fight for. not years from now, not down the line, leveling the playing field right now. >> when we come back, i'll ask senator warren about the idea that the 1% is an awful lot of tax. gives an awful lot to charity, and the idea of class warfare that we talked about in the beginning, stay with us.

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street, in new york city, comes from that demonized 1%. >> it's not the demonized 1%. let's just be real clear. the game is rigged, and it's rigged in favor of those who have money and who have power. watch what happens in wall street. if you can hire an army of lobbyists and an army of lawyers, then you'll get what you need out of washington. washington will make sure that the rules will work for you. >> can you fix that until you fix campaign finance reform? >> that is a big part -- >> your campaign costs $40 million. >> do you know what it took to make that happen? i think it was really important. it was lots of folks making $50 donations. you know, about 80% of our money came from people who made donations of $50 or less, god bless every one of them. >> i know when you're campaigning, when you meet a

little girl, would you bend down and say, "i'm elizabeth warren, i'm running for senate because that's what girls do." >> you bet. >> rebecca trainer from the new york times pointed out that more women were burned at the stake in massachusetts as witches historically than were sent to congress. what has to change? how do you get more women in the seats of power. >> well, you know, part of it is -- >> and are you seeing sexism at that level? >> part of it is that we've got to bring in little girls, big girls, grown women. one thing that's important to me, whatever job i make it to, it's to look back and say, where's the next woman who's ready to move up the ladder and let's bring her up. i've never been a candidate for the united states senate before. but i'll tell you about when i ran my campaign manager, my deputy campaign manager was a woman. the person who handled my media was a woman. >> now you have a bigger women's bathroom. >> and now we have a bigger ladies room in the senate. however, we're not resting until we at least get to 50 seats in

the united states senate. >> elizabeth warren, pleasure to spend time with you. >> good to see you. >> the book is called "a fighting chance" life story, a little policy. cnn's special report with don lemon starts right now. this is a cnn special report. i'm don lemon. welcome to our viewers in the united states and around the world. we'll bing with breaking news in the search for flight 370. the bluefin has completed scanning 90% of the search zone and turned up nothing. is it time to ask, what is next move in the search for flight 370. plus, a mystery objects washes ashore on the coach of australia. experts scramble to see if it's linked to flight 370. we have their findings for you. and you've been tweeting us your flight 370 questions. we have top aviation and security experts standing guy answer them.