>> there has been a spike in violence in chicago's south side. people there are taking a stand. our original series chicagoland catches what is going on. you will want to catch the finale right here on cnn. brooke baldwin continues our coverage here on cnn. >> wolfe, thank you so much as always. great to be with you as always on this thursday. you are about to hear, top of the hour, malaysia's prime minister answering cnn's questions on these secretive and bhungaled handling of flight 370. but first an alarming realization. searchers may be about to be out of options. that fragment that washed ashore, could it be, might it be? the answer is no. it has just been ruled out as a

piece of the missing plane. the u.s. navy underwater drone has scanned 90% of all the area most likely to hold the black boxes and thus far, nothing. not a trace. and with mere hours remaining, the chances of finding anything? slim to none. the visual search is taking place each and every day from dawn to dusk, not a single thing spotted is related to flight 370. so the question now is this. is it time to refresh, reboot? dare i say go back to square one? or is it time to employ more assets and resources here? we are now beginning day 49 of dysfunction and secrecy. the loved ones, those on board are becoming increasingly sus suspicio suspicious, especially when it

comes to this report that has been kept secret. >> we are not given a reason why we are not being given the report. but i find it fascinating that they seem to be choosing to treat us as if we are the enemy as opposed to an interested party in helping to solve this mystery. so joining me now, cnn's richard quest who landed this exclusive interview, and richard, you know, listen, i know he should have sat down with you weeks and weeks ago. the prime minister is stopping short of saying this plane is lost. explain that to me. >> right. it seems like a con stra diction in what he is saying but it's not really. it's a nuanced answer. and basically, on the night if

you go back to march 24, when he made his statement, he said that the plane, that they had come to the conclusion because of the inmarstat data that the flight had ended in the south indian ocean and he was quite clear, he never said it crashed, he never said they were dead. and there is a reason. it's not semantics. until the state of investigation says the plane is lost, people can't claim compensation. i asked the prescribe will he now say the plane and the passengers were lost.

this was his response. >> on the balance of the evidence, it would be hard to imagine otherwise, richard. but the significance is until malaysia says the plane has been lost, the compensation packages, the next stage of the proceedings under the montreal convention can't go ahead. i ask you again, are you prepared to say that the plane and its passengers are lost? >> at some point in time i would be but right now i think i need to take into account the feelings of the next of kin. some of them have said pubically until they find hard evidence. >> now let's be clear about this, brooke. this is not a man who is ignoring the obvious. he is basically saying like the

families, let's wait for there to be hard evidence. he wants to see some credible evidence. he is a nuanced response out of respect for the families. >> but it is an obvious point of confusi confusion. this is the same man who weeks ago said all lives lost, correct? >> no. no. that is not correct. the -- it was malaysia airline in the text and it is malaysia airlines in the statement who said there were no survivors and all parties are lost. the government has never said in words of one syllable and certainly not the prescribe all lives have been lost. but they're not fools. they know obviously the reality. but for the prime minister to jump that hurdle and he's aware.

if you look at when i asked the question, his head is nodding. he knows that i'm basically saying isn't it time to call a spade a shovel as us brits might put it. he knows what i'm asking him but he politically and respectfully, he won't go that far. >> i understand. i understand. so that's the airline and the government. let's get to this identification that the families who have so badly been pressing the government for, the prescribe said that will be released neck week? what kind of information is in that report? >> yes, don't told your breath and get too excited. of all the reports that will be issued, this is probably the most mundane and that makes it more inexplicable that they didn't release it when they sent it to montreal. we know, it has been confirmed

and i have already reported that there is a safety recommendation asking for a look at realtime tracking of aircraft. that's there. the rest of it, it will be the plane, the crew, not by name, the passengers by numbers, the route, the air traffic control. what the prescribe saime minist will do is have an international committee look at it and see what is being releezed. i said are you going to be embarrassed? is that why you're not releasing it? no, he said. i want to be sure we're getting it right. also the pm's committee will look at whatever investigation material will be released. i'm getting the feeling from the pm that he's basically saying it's time to start opening it up. >> this could be the beginning of more information, more transparency. if you're saying it's fairly

mundane, we're hearing from the families that they want the air traffic control conversations, more information from radar and everything down to numbers off of the black boxes. none of that will be in this preliminary report. is that what i'm hearing? >> since i have been here, i learned an enormous amount more about the flight and what happened and what's reliable and what's not. give you an example. all of the salt tud changes, none of it is reliable. it's all based on primary radar. the pm said yes, they saw the plane going across. they thought it was civil and didn't see it as a threat. the question of what did

indonesia say? indonesia didn't see the plane going around the top. ourses here tell me that's either because radar is witched off or because their radar is so bad. these are the sort of things that one is learning now in the investigation. >> this is absolutely fascinating. you are there pressing for some answers to these questions that we have been waiting for. if i could ask you to standby. you have been eating, living, breathing, eating the story. plus we will talk to more experts. more reaction on this breaking news, the exclusive sit down interview with the malaysian prime minister right after this. hey. i'm ted and this is rudy.

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>> all right. let's pick up exactly where we left off. richard quest has traveled to kuala lumpur and pressed the prime minister on some really important issues. the prelim mare report will be released next week. the pm stopping short of calling this plane lost did the prime minister say to you what he thinks happened? >> all he said is he has his own

theories but doesn't have the evidence to back them up and until he does he will not reveal them. i think the fascinating part here is so much hinges on the inmarsat pings. the investigation is bare without the pings and handshakes. so that you can understand how things have come to this position where they are today. >> you know more about this story, the details, the facts than anyone. than anyone.

what was your biggest take away. >> all the nonsense that is spoken about pilots' names and last words, when you look at the hard facts, the malaysians pretty much -- forget the pr stuff and communication stuff. if you look at the actual search, and the actual core investigation, it's not being bad by any stretch of the imagination. the allegation that time was wasted looking in the south china sea when they already knew from radar that the plane had gone the other way towards the strait. but that ignores the fact of vietnam they were finding debris and oil slicks. it ignores the chinese satellite picture. so every accusation of time wasting or incompetence has to be seen in the position that

they were in at that moment. and until any of us could say we could do it better. i am saying it's by no means as bad as some of the critics would have us believe. >> perspective and context at the time. richard quest, thank you so much. we will be hearing much more of richard's interview with the malaysian prime minister throughout the evening. i want to broaden the conversation of author of "why planes crash." you have been following this story very, very closely, listening to my conversation with richard, i'm just curious, your reaction to all the information that he just divu e divulged now? >> i'm really pleased with what richard has found out. investigations have ebbs and

flows and if anyone dug into any of my investigations i would look incompetent as well. they are heartfelt, they are going in the right direction and they are going in the direction they have to believe in. there is all of this collateral data that tends to co-eles in one direction and there is one piece that changes your competence here. to have people question that time during the indecisiveness. >> you know as well as i do that these families have been begging and demanding for transparency for more information for answers to their questions and so we now know that the preliminary report will be released next week.

though when i asked richard quest about it, what that might entail, his adjective was that it will be mundane. when that finally comes out, david, will that just be a whole lot of nothing? >> well, anything that the families get as far as transparency is anything but mundane but the report can appear to be that way. particularly after it is redakted where they take the names and certificate numbers and things like that out. it will be mostly what we already know, what kind of damage was done to the aircraft. we don't have that. we don't have that. so the report is going be very empty. it's check boxes and fields. there will be a lot of empty check boxes and a lot of empty fields in that report. >> and a lot of unsatisfied families. thank you so much for joining

me, here. we will take you back to the breaking story. the new details on the missing plane. let's move on to eastern ukraine because it may be slipping away from the rest of the country. the ukrainian military trying to contain this chaos, blaming moscow for helping the separatists. will another threat from the united states, might this keep russia in line? we will explore that. also if this blue fin 21 this underwater drone, remember this is the final mission, if it comes up empty, the search could enter a more intense phase. we will look at the technology search teams could use in the hunt. stay here for cnn's special coverage after this.

>> welcome back. i'm brooke baldwin. hours ago a u.s. reporter was set free. vice news reporting that reporter sigh man is in good health. the journalist himself tweeted i'm out and safe. thank you all for your support. had no idea i had so many good friends. this comes hours after president obama announced that the u.s. is on the verge of slapping more sanctions on russia in the biggest show down since the cold war. >> we have been preparing for the prospect that we're going to have to engage in further sanctions. those are t'd up. it requires coordination with

other countries. so the fact that i haven't announced them yet doesn't mean that they haven't been prepared and t'd up. >> ukrainian forces reportedly killed five russian militants. pro russian groups are occupying government buildings. russian's president, putin warning of consequences if ukraine's new government uses its army against its own people. because jim, when we hear president obama using the phrase ting up sanctions, does that mean days, not weeks? and how severe are these sanctions? >> it doesn't mean the sector

sanctions which would be going after, for instance, russia's energy sector, some of the big state energy companies. the trouble is european allies as well. they depend on russia particularly for their natural gas and that's a price that they haven't been willing to bear. >> what about what putin said just a short time ago. who was he speaking to when he said that? >> he's speaking to a domestic audience, really. that's the only audience he appears to care about. you will hear from this american officials and european officials that putin is living in a dream world with a different reality. that reality is the right one, the correct one as far as his audience is concerned. that is his concern. he doesn't care about this

condemnation. even as the economy falters. >> at what point does he wake up and care? >> that's the ultimate question. you know? you talk to intelligence officials as they try to judge what is his next move going to be. the one thing that everyone i talked to agrees on, how many officials, they don't know. >> back to the search here. the blue fin 21 might actually be one of the most powerful tools when it comes to the underwater searches, but it's far from the only one they could be using. we will take a closer look at other ways, the teams could be using, deploying. also ahead, this is fascinating.

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and called murderers but today this breaking information coming to us with with our own richard quest defending the handling of the information. as for the twists and the turns, he says even he was surprised when he learned the plane had flown for hours after it vanished. >> to be honest, i found it hard to believe to begin with. how could a plane that was supposed to be heading towards beijing they could decide that the plane end e ended plane wasd

towards antarctica. >> that is a sliver of the interview. the most intense search may not only take on a source of reaction. so, what are these high-tech options that could be available for these searchers? let's start with the orian. >> you get realtime images. there's not that lag time like we have the the blue fin. it doesn't go quite as deep. your resolution will not be quite as good as the blue fin because it has to be towed behind the ship so it is not allowed to go quite as deep.

how does this work differently? >> it is one that is closest to the blue fin and that one can go much deeper. you get very crisp images. but the problem is just like with the blue fin is that it's not realtime images, it has to go in, scan the area. >> and -- this is the up with they actually used in the recovery of the black boxes in air france and exploring the titanic. you have a pilot on the ship with the controls and it goes down there. but it's better used once they have actually found something because you control it from the ship so it's not going to be able to cover a large area can all of these underwater vessels

not be used at the same time? >> they actually can. the reason they didn't is because they thought we had the spot. we were going to send the blue fin down there and that was going to be the bull's eye. i would think they would have to put in many more resources and you could use them all at once. >> thank you so much for showing us what that could entile. what happens when a boat faces rough seas. split second decisions can affect survival and disaster. and as divers continue to go in, we will take you inside a simulator and show you how high waves could create havoc on a situation like this. >> and two very different leaders, barack obama and putin have one thing in common. both of these men made it into time magazine's 100 most

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>> we are learning new details about this man believed to be behind the company that owns the company who owned the ferry. he is rarely seen in public. he is actually known as the millionaire with no face. he has time as a religious cult leader. spent four years in jail for tax evasion. he is believed to control the ferry company through a complicated maze of family and corporate subsidies. tax officials have told cnn the business was having some money problems and this year, this is what it looked like this south

korean lawmaker says the top floor was expanded for extra cabins and investigators want to know if the additions made the ferry more prone to capsize in the meantime these rescue divers have now pulled 171 bodies from this wreckage. >> and the number of crew members charged, this is now up to 14. three more arrests made today. there were 29 crew members on that ferry. and when a ship lists, right? when it begins to tip over as was the case in this ferry in the frigid yellow sea, what happens? especially when the weather is bad? obviously there are high waves. rosa takes us inside this ferry simulator to show us what should be proper protocol. >> i'm at resolve maritime

academy and this is actually the bridge wing part of the simulator. but i want to show you the bridge because it really gives you the perspective of what you're able to do in this facility. dave is here to take us through this particular exercise. >> we're on a model of a large cruise ship. >> and what port are we in? >> port everglades and headed towards miami. >> once you are leaving the por port. >> you're close to the grounding line, generally there will be more traffic. -- it's fairly intense at this poi

point. >> in some cases you have a lot of current. very shortly after you leave the harbor you're going to have a lot of current headed north with the gulf stream. so that's going to change your plan a little bit. >> let's try to make a turn with the ship. >> one of the main things with a ship at sea is you have got your course on the ground and your heading. in this particular case if you're headed across the baja mas, the heading of the ship is not going to be in that direction. if you can start listing here and you see the perspective from the bridge but i also want to give you the sper tech spif from the passenger's eyes.

let's say that the passenger is on a balcony. you can see how close the water is to the life bolts so at this point, i have got to ask, what are crew members trained to do to correct this? >> depending on the exact situation. if you are listing, something has shifted inside the ship. it could be water, it could be cargo. depending on what it is you may need to correct it or you may not. >> what complicatikplcomplicatia cargo ship and there are metals in those compartments? >> there are some metals that can liquefy under certain conditions and become very dangerous and slosh back and forth which is a problem called free surface, it's an uncontrolled moment. railroad vessels, if cargo breaks free and goes to one

side. obviously that is not something you can do from the sea. >> so you would need help? you would not be able to correct frit the bridge? >> absolutely. >> the good thing about simulators like this, is it allows cruise liners to come here and practice those drills and make sure if they are faced with a scenario out at sea, they are prepared to respond. brooke? >> rosa florez, thank you so much for that. question, who do you think are the most influential people in the world? the president? the guy who began twitter? new late night host? miley cyrus? they all made time magazine's list. we're about to talk to someone from time and we will talk about the process and why and how. also ahead, say it ain't so, this new york yankee pitcher put some pine tar, an illegal substance in a place that it definitely did not belong and now red sox fans are screaming he's a cheater.

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beyonce, how many magazines have featured her face? time magazine has just released its list of the 100 most influential people in the world. she not only graces the cover but tops a section.

time took this video of her photo shoot. >> i feel like my mother and my daughter have been probably the most influential. and being a mother, becoming a mother, looking at my daughter in her eyes made me into a woman and made me very, very strong. shooting for time magazine was definitely one of the goals in my life. it's something important to me as an artist. it's not about fashion or beauty or music but about the influence i have had on culture and to be among the other influential people is a huge honor for me. >> there are a lot of people on this top 100 list that you might

have heard of that you will and should. toe tell us more about the list, dan joins me now. nice to see you. >> nice to see you, too. >> here we have the lovely, beautiful, and uber talented beyonce. and of all of these people, she lands the cover photo? why? >> i think cheryl said it best. beyonce doesn't just take a seat at the table, she builds a better table. she released an entirely visual album out of nowhere. it was a surprise and she represents a really strong woman. >> take me behind the scenes. how do you come up with this 100 list? >> so it's a very involved

process. we solicit nominations from many, many people and former people on the list. we whittle it down, have lots of conversations and it's a pretty cool process. >> this is one of my favorite magazines of the year. not only are you sitting there wanting to see who is on the list but you get to see famous people. i love dolly parton. she says about miley, if i didn't know how smart and talented miley is, i might worry about her but i have watched her so i don't. she knows what she's doing. she doesn't have to be so drastic. i will respect her choices. i did it my way so why can't she do it her way? how do you solicit all of these various people to write your pieces? >> we have tons and tons of

conversations but it's a lot of back and forth. does the person know the person? do they have something interesting to say about the person? we want these entries to add some value to the readers. >> it's not just these positive role models. i read the blush on kim jong un, who is in the top 100. we talked about suffering and human rights issue. why include people like him on the list? >> influence has many forms and we do include polarizing figures. we would like to start a debate about what is influence and what does influence mean? we expect readers to disagree with some of our choices and they are more than welcome to let us know. >> so not always influence can take many shades and colors. i hear you. it's beautiful online to go through the faces and articles. i feel like i'm pretty well read

and a lot of faces i didn't recognize. who was your favorite person on the list that maybe our viewers haven't heard of? >> i would go with a guy named tony fidel. he's the ceo of a company called nest. he is trying to reinvent the smart home. i would watch him in the future. >> okay. dan from time magazine, thank you so much for coming on and the time 100 issue hits newsstands friday. >> when a pitcher is accused of cheating a lot of people say let's give him the benefit of the doubt. what happens the second time just days later and he's caught pine tar handed? baseball fans a little less forgiving. also ahead, the blue fin 21's mission began with so much hope but could soon end in disappointment. but the search in the missing plane is far from over. much more ahead.

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>> plan for this new statue, coach and legend. well now, a group of alums is raising money for a new one through kick starter. they want to put it in downtown state college, not on campus. >> for us that have been around for any length of time, it really means a great deal for us to us to make sure that we honor joe in the right way and this certainly is a way to do that. >> the kick starter campaign is set to begin in july. and now to this. when we talk about cheating, you have all seen someone get

busted. maybe you have been in class and seen someone write with answers written on their hand. a little something not so little actually happened last night if you're watching major league baseball. new york yankees pitcher getting in some trouble because the answer is in a sense found smeared on his neck. take a look at the pictures yourself. you will see on the right hand side of his neck? that is a no no. the ump taking a look at it. and then he goes, ejected from the game you can't do this. he now faces a suspension. he did admit that it was pine tar. he used it because he didn't want to hit nin. pineda said it was a cold night and he couldn't feel the ball. the yankees team is a bit embarrassed. so we thought the soap box could

continue. it is very hard as a red sox fan to watch this yankees pitcher get ejected. can you explain to me what really happened? >> no one should be this bad of a cheater. it should be impossible to cheat this badly. this guy walks out in the second inning with the pine tar smeared on his neck. there are 35,000 fans in the stands. it was a nationally televised game, so you know, hundreds of thousands of people are watching on tv. every single one of them saw the pine tar on his neck. so the red sox manager, he looked guilty walking out to the man. he was like i can't believe i have to do this. i can't believe anyone would be so silly as to try this. he told the ump and the ump

tossed him. you can't do that in baseball. >> it is stuff that he would put on his hand to what? have a better handle on the bar? >> that's why pitchers use it. you're allowed to use it on a baseball bat. it makes the ball do funky things. >> he did this days ago? >> that's what makes this truly astounding.

>> everyone in disbelief that it could happen quite like this? >> you want to say a little go sox? >> go sox. they needed it. >> thank you so much. we will be watching you filling in for anderson. and now this. >> this is cnn breaking news. >> breaking news here as we are at the top of the hour. i'm brooke baldwin. since the moment flight 370 vanished, malaysia has fallen under the critical gaze of the whole world. they have been called liars and murders. you are about to hear directly from the prime minister of malaysia, sitting down with cnn, defending his government's handling of this flight investigation. but first, searchers in the southern indian ocean may be mere day as away from hitting t reset button.

we talked a lot about the torn up riveted piece of metal, that mysterious object that washed ashore yesterday. that has now been ruled out as a piece of the missing plane. as for this underwater search here, this blue fin 21, it has now scanned 90% of this entire area considered most likely to hold the plane's black boxes and so far, nothing has been found. the mystery here of this plane is quite frankly just as baffling asth malaysia's respon and appearance. so we go to kuala lumpur to richard quest who landed this interview with malaysia's pm. a lot to talk about. let me talk about the strange immediate reaction or inaction when they saw this plane turn around, what did he tell you about that? >> this is really been the

biggest issue. everything else is stuff. who did what when where and all of these things in terms of the search. but brooke, the really big issue is after the plane did the turn and flew back across peninsula of malaysia, was it being tracked in realtime by malaysian radar and if it was, why didn't they send a plane out to see what was happening? because they couldn't have known what it was. it is the elephant in the room. what did malaysia do on the night? and there was a question for the prime minister. >> now the military primary radar has some capability. it tracked an aircraft which did a turn back, they were not sure

whether it was mh-370, what they were sure of was that the aircraft was not deemed to be hostile. >> no planes were sent up on the night to investigate. >> no. simply because it was deemed not to be hostile. >> don't you find that troubling that a civil aircraft can turn back, fly across the country and nobody thinks to go up and have a look? one of two things, i understand that the threat level and i understand either the plane is in trouble and needs help or it's nefarious and you really want to know what somebody is going up to do. as prime minister, don't you find that troubling? >> coming back to my earlier statement, they were not sure whether it was mh-370. >> even more reason to go up and have a look.

>> they were not sure but it behaved like a commercial airline. >> what we have there is really quite classic. on the night, a relatively junior radar sees what's happening, works out that it's a civil aircraft, because the threat level is low, malaysia at the moment doesn't think to send anybody out or create alarm as a result. brooke, that is going to be the issue that ultimately malaysia has to answer for what happens on the night. >> here is my next one. when you asked the prime minister to get his reaction to now that we know that that plane flew hours after it vanished, what was his reaction to that?

>> he effectively said he couldn't believe it. a plane supposedly flying north towards beijing is suddenly found half way across the world in the most remote ocean. bizarre and he couldn't believe it is the way he put it to me. >> let's take a listen. >> to be honest, i find it hard to believe to begin with. because how could a plane that was supposed to be heading towards beijing, you know, they could decide that the plane and that half way towards antarctica? it's a bizarre scenario that none of us could have contemplated. >> now that really puts it into the full perspective.

and it really does show. you have covered this as long as i have since day one. the unprecedented nature of what took place starts to become understoodable for the decisions that were taken, where to look, when to look, what assets to depl deploy, who to bring in, and remember they had to do this for 26 other countries. >> after texting the families came forward but pubically said this plane has ended in the southern indian ocean, yet to you he is stopping short of saying the plane is lost. if that is the case, where does he think this plane is? >> there is no contradiction in that. the text was sent by the airline.

he admitted those words were chosen very carefully and out of respect for the families. >> if you look at all of the evidence he feels it is obvious what has happened but he's not going to be the one at the moment to call the spade a provesh y'all shovel. >> if the word lost were to be used would that not trigger more money and compensation for the families? >> it wouldn't trigger more money, it would trigger the process. that's why some sources find it frustrating that the airline has s set.

>> so the airline is looking very much towards a notion of please, let's move on. let's be able to pay compensation. let's have a dose of reality about what has happened. the government is saying as long as they have to keep everybody on board and they have to show respect to the next of kin they're not going to take the measure. they're not at each other's throats over this but there is a difference and that difference is starting to become tense. >> richard, i don't know how long you had with him, but during this interview, walking away from it, what is your biggest take away? >> my biggest take away is that it is unprecedented. look, in the television studios around the world and i put my hand up and have been as guilty as anybody, second guessing monday morning quarterbacking, but when i basically put a fact and it is this, brook, no plane,

no evidence no idea of where it is, scant satellite data. nefarious or mechanical, never happened before, most remote part of the world and nobody knows what happens. once you put those facts on the table, suddenly the picture of who did what when where and why becomes much more if not exactly excusable, at least explicable. >> a phenomenal interview. i look forward to seeing the whole thing in its entirety through the evening here on cnn. richard quest live with us. thank you so much. and let's talk to cnn aviation analyst, jeff wise. you just heard my back and forth with richard. what's your reaction? >> it is really extraordinary. we are finally hearing from the horse's mouth, the prime minister's reaction to this

extraordinary turn of events. richard is absolutely right. this is an historic unprecedented event. we are still scratching our heads. really i think the person who is in a position to understand this event better than anyone else because he has access. >> he is scratching his head. >> to hear him talk about how he couldn't believe that this plane could wind up half way to abo antarcti antarctica. we all feel absolute bafflement. >> we know that the families have been demanding more information, they are asking for a lot, so from this interview we have learned that the malaysian government will be finally releasing -- should have done it around the 30 day mark but they will finally be releasing the 30 day report. what kind of information will be

contained in that that will be released to the public? >> frankly we don't know at this point until we see it. and releasing it to the public will be a huge step. there was a lot of outrage about the fact that the original plan was to release it only to the ico, a part of the u.n., not to the press, not to the family, not to the public. we will all be relieved and excited to see this report. what is going to be in it? the point of a preliminary report is to state the known facts of a case before the investigators go through the long process of determining what actually happens. often times the united states, the ntsb might just be a paragraph or two very simply stating what has happened. >> that's the thing, it is preliminary report when you say we will be relieved. i'm not so sure that families when they read a graph or two will be relieved. they want a lot more information. >> but more relieved than to not

have gotten it at all. you know, we don't know. it could have interesting things in it like where was the plane last observed? we only at this point have a very fuzzy idea say that it did a hook around the tip of indonesia. i would be interested to know where the authorities think it last was spotted. you're right. it might not be satisfying at all. >> i like your adjective. fuzzy. a lot of this is fuzzy. but finally this interview is huge. next week could be huge. jeff wise, many, many thanks to you. >> thank you. >> coming up we will continue our special coverage here, breaking news. we will talk to ocean explorer fabian custo and says there

needs to be a mission control for future ocean searches. we will talk to him about k exactly he means by that. and could live streaming data for planes be in the near future because of what has happened with mh-370? and why isn't there a system already in place. >> and a veteran's hospital in phoenix, putting america's vets on secret waiting lists where they stay and wait without care and for some when their turn comes it's too late. 40 veterans died while waiting for this care. do not miss this exclusive information coming up. get all your favorites all day, everyday. olive garden's signature favorites, just $10 including creamy fettuccine alfredo, and our classic lasagna. plus unlimited soup or salad and warm breadsticks. signature favorites, just $10 all week long, at olive garden. life with crohn's disease ois a daily game of "what if's".

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>> welcome back. searchers here in this hunt for flight 370 have been dealt another blow because this wreckage is not related to the missing plane. also the u.s. navy's underwater done is 90% finish ed so fabian thank you so much for joining me. >> nice to see you. >> first let's begin with what you're so passionate about. but, when it comes to this missing plane.

because of the vastness of the oceans, because of the lack of knowledge of the oceans and a mission control maybe one in every continent would certainly help with that network. >> when we talk about resources, i have talked to so many people specifically about the blue fin 21, the auv that has been deploy ed 10, 11, 12 missions. what other types of ecould be used in conjunction with the blue fin or once it is finished? it would be wonderful to have a fleet of them to be able to cover a larger area in the same

amount of time. there are other tools out there, rovs, auvs and submersibles that have their depth limits that can be used in the right order and fashi fashion. >> which we don't and that's the problem. >> you not in the weeds with this but let me throw this at you. >> i'm certainly not involved in this search and i sympathize with those folks who have dead kaded all of this time for the search because it is an extraordinarily difficult endeavour. i don't think i will be doing too many things differently. it's a very difficult endeavour

and the weight of all of those poor people who are waiting for an answer. >> we have been, you know, reading these reports that officials are considering revisiting calculations, maybe expanding the search, back to the notion that much of this part of the world haven't been mapped. what do you think of the identity of expanding the search? we have explored less than 5% of our oceans. >> that is amazing. >> less than 5%. >> to date. >> tell me about mission 31. >> we certainly didn't time this

according to the focus on oceans recently but mission 31 is an epic adventure, expedition that i'm leading to take six people to go and live and work underwater for over 31 days. we aim to connect with the general public to bring them along for the first time ever live on an ocean expedition through tangible medias that everyone is used to through these little devices. through these things that we carry in our pockets. >> it's incredible. it's called mission 31. we will be checking on you when this happens. thank you so much. >> my pleasure. >> coming up, a veteran's hospital in phoenix putting america's vets on secret waiting lists where they stay and kaer. and for a lot of them it becomes too late. 40 veterans died while waiting for help, for treatment.

this is a cnn exclusive information that you do not want to miss. back after a quick break.

>> now to what may be the most shocking example yet in krcnn's ongoing investigation of american military veterans dying while they wait for military care at va hospitals. we have uncovered how far one va hospital went to hide their long wait times. a doctor who has left the

hospital said that managers were keeping two waiting lists. a sham list and a secret list that showed the deadly reality. drew? >> it was a plan by top management to hide as many as 1600 veterans at least 40 veterans waiting for care. many on the secret list are now dead. the management's plan included shredding the evidence to hide the fact that there was a waiting list at all. the hospital did have a list that showed the va was providing

timely appointments. hay couldn't take you off of that list until you had an appointment time that was less than 14 days rb in the cause r case of a 71-year-old u.s. navy veteran, the wait ended sooner. >> he started bleeding in his urine. >> his brooklyn raised father would go nowhere but the va for treatment and on september 28th with blood in his urine and a history of cancer, he was rushed to the va emergency room where he was examined and sent home to wait. >> all they wrote on his chart was must have primary doctor in

one week. urgent. >> urgent. >> and they sent him home. >> they kept calling day after day and then the bleeding was from inoperatable stage four bladder cancer. >> they call me december 6. he's dead already. >> they called you and said -- >> i said what is this regarding? >> she says we have a primary for him? i said really? you're a little too late, sweetheart. >> cnn obtained e-mail showing top management knew about the actual wait times new about the list and defended its use to staff. it is disheartening to hear

allegations about this and we are open to any collaborative discussions that assist in our goal to continuely improve patient care. that response is stunning. >> this was stunning. >> correct. >> the off the books list is now getting attention of the house veteran's affairs committee whose chairman has demanded that the va preserve all records out in phoenix, secret or not. so it becomes part of an ongoing investigation just looking into the delayed care and deaths of u.s. veterans. brooke? >> thank you for your reporting. we should mention late yesterday, the phoenix va sent an additional statement acknowledging the phoenix va health care system has had long standing issues with veterans accessing care and have taken

numerous actions to meet demand while we continue to serve more veterans and enhance our services. we have continuely asked the director of the hospital for an interview but have so far been refused. >> and the man that is believed to control the company that owns the south korean company. he is also known as the millionaire with no face and now his private alter ego is being exposed. that's later. russia is warning kiev that military action is not out of the question and now president obama has his own warning for moscow. ♪

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here we are nearly 50 days since flight 370 vanished without a trace. the government has been called murderers by the families on board this missing plane. but today in an exclusive interview, malaysian's prime minister is defending the handling of this investigation telling our own correspondent that he doesn't feel comfortable saying the flight is lost. >> on the balance of the evidence, it would be hard to imagine otherwise, richard. >> but the significant is that until malaysia says the plane has been lost, the compensation packages, the next stage of proceedings can't go ahead. are you prepared to say that the

plane and its passengers are lost? >> at some point in time i would be but right now i think i need to take into account the feelings of the next of kin and some of them have said that they're not willing to accept it until they find hard evidence. >> as for the finding of that hard evidence, the search so far has been fruitless. the blue fin has scanned this area. with just hours left in its deep sea search mission, the chances of finding anything? slim to none. >> we have learned that an

american journalist has been set free. he has taken to twitter saying i am out and safe. thank you all for your support. i had no idea i had so many good friends. this came hours before president obama stood and said we are days, not weeks away from tampering. you cranian forces reportedly killed five prorussian militants to reclaim an occupied city in eastern ukraine. cnn international correspondent is live for us. let's talk about these ukrainian troop movements. i understand there is news

there? what are you seeing happening? >> the government said they were launching an anti-terrorism operation and if images that we were getting this morning were fairly dramatic with large plooms of black smoke rising very much in the hands of these prorussian militants. the government saying they have managed to take over three check points. our team that was on the ground there earlier today at one of those check points was speaking to some of the prorussan militants who said the ukrainian military advanced on them. they torched the tires. no direct confrontation between both sides the self-proclaimed mayor saying that saying that

one protester had been killed but this is an escalation of an already tense situation. >> coming up, base jumpers shattering the world's record with this unbelievable jump from the very tiptop of this building which is the tallest building in the world. you know where i'm talking about? we will show you this amazing video coming up. also ahead south koreans call him the millionaire with no face. up next the secret alter ego of the man who owns the company that is said to control the ferry.

>> now to the south korean ferry disaster and questions about renovations. a south korean lawmaker says that the top floor of this ferry was actually expanded to make

room for extra cabins and investigators want to know if these additions made this ferry more likely to capsize. they suspect the ship was not overloaded with cargo at the time that it began to list and tip over. authorities also arrested more employees today. that number is up to 14 now and we are learning more details about this man who is believed to be controlling this family controlled company. this man is rarely seen in public. >> investigators raided the offices of this marine company, boxing evidence for if criminal

probe. a a businessman known in korea as the millionaire with no face. no face because you rarely see him. this video from 2013 shows one of the few times he has been seen in public. according to major south korean newspapers he has an artistic alter ego. an identity online as a photographer who has won international acclaim. careen tax authorities say the ferry company was struggling financially and reported a loss last year. days after the ferry sank, the

shipping company sent out its president to apologize. he's a preacher and was a religious cult leader in 1987. 33 people from his group were found dead, bound and gagged in a factory outside of seoul. it was investigated as a mass murder suicide but found no evidence tying it to the man. but he was convicted on fraud charges and spent four years in jail for tax evasion. the calls to the mysterious millionaire were not returned. >> back here where the search is still continuing, there is also an investigation as to the organization that signed off for

the safety and instex of the ferry, the dragnet continuing to widen. coming up, vid you know have to see. look at it from the ground. imagine doing this. jumping off of it. more of this stunning base jumping video here. i talk to rapper, artist common and what he says is his most important duty as a person who calls chicago home. next.

>> finally we show it to you. jumping off of the world's tallest building. watch. and my stomach just dropped watching this for the 13th time here. you have this 2700 foot tall building in dubai and these two men are french sky divers that set the official record for base jumping from a building more than half a mile straight down and off they go again. they spent a week practicing jumping off of a swiss mountain to get ready for this in dubai.

and now to this. proof that cheaters never prosper. yankees pitcher michael pineta will be riding the pine, as in the pine bench after getting caught using pine tar in the game last since he's a pitcher, he'll miss a couple of starts. pineta did a very, very bad job of hiding that tar. in fact, he wasn't hiding it on that side of his neck. sox one anyway. most incredibly, pineta was caught doing the same thing in his last start. actor and philanthropist common is helping chicago take back the streets. he started a foundation called common ground to empower girls and boys build better lives. he's starring in the cnn series

"chicagoland." i spoke with him about the place he calls home. common joins me. thanks for being on. >> it's great to see you, brooke. how are you? >> i'm doing well. i want to talk about the show chicagoland because you appeared in episode four where rahm emanuel asked you to help promote the city's programs. what did that feel like? >> i felt honored that he wanted me to be a part of helping out with the youth because that's what i'm driven to really help out our young people here in chicago and the fact that the mayor, you know, recognized my passion for the young people and it was an honor for him to ask me and i felt like, yes, let's do that. because i'm not big -- a big politician but, you know, i'm not a politician at all,

actually, but, you know, i love when politics has a great cause and the fact that we want to provide jobs and help out our young people is important no matter what party you're with or what your background is. we just want to help out chicago young people. >> common, i know so many people reach out to you. you're an artist, you have a foundation, you have this influence. you carry much infuluence. how do you help out by being in chicago? >> well, i definitely had people reach out to you. like my mother was the first person that reached out to me. she meant a lot because she's educated and she is the person that -- i saw her caring for other people and caring for the kids that she taught. you know, i feel like this is my duty to reach out to young people in chicago. it's my way of giving back.

because i've been afforded a chance to go out and live out my dreams and i'm still dreaming and i want to, you know, inspire and open up the gateways for the younger people of chicago to pursue their dreams. and i've been doing it like with my foundation, the common ground foundation but beyond that we just had an initiative that we became a part of where we're getting young people jobs and we teamed up with kanye and run by a gentleman who used to rap and still raps named ron fess. so we're coming together with people in the city of chicago to make movement and provide opportunities for the younger people of chicago. >> keep helping and do what you need to do because a lot of people clearly need the help but it's amazing to see the bright stars in this amazing city. common, thank you very much.

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ever thought about buying shares of apple stock and were a tad intimidated because of the price? shares of apple are about to become a lot more affordable. alison kosik is joining us. it's been about 500 bucks a pop for a share. >> $567, to be exact. when apple handed out the corporate report card yesterday after the bell, it announced that it is splitting its stock. 7 for 1. if you're not a shareholder, there's a better chance in june. this could be a sign that apple wants to make shares more accessible to a larger number of

investors. it's a lot more affordable. what this also could do is pavement way for apple could be included in the dow. it's currently only in the nasdaq and s & p. it really knocked this one out of the park, selling more iphones than expected. brooke? >> last question for you. general motors, some news there? >> general motors coming out with its earnings saying that the price tag for the repairs for the recalls are going to cost $1.3 billion. not the ignition switch problems that led to 13 deaths but all of the recalls are taking a bite out of gm's bottom line. it made just over 1$100 million compared to $100 billion a year ago. gm knew it didn't meet the specifications. >> knew many years ago.

alison kosik in new york for us, thank you so much. that does it for me. i'll see you back here at the same time, same place, friday. meantime, let's go to washington. "the lead" with jake tapper starts right now. the lapses in the flight 370 investigation and the incense tift to the families, you're about to hear the ceo answer to all of it. the man accused of being the true murderers of their loved ones aboard flight 370 get an exclusive. malaysia's leader defends his actions right here on "the lead". plus, he's a nevada rancher. conservatives rushed to his defense but that was before he wondered aloud whether negros had it better under slavery. also, president