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machine at a tokyo museum when president obama played soccer with a robot. he was impressed but a little scared he said at the technology. and now, a look at the highest jump. two french skydiving experts leaped from the building in mumbai. they say they're not daredevils, they do it for fun. >> i love how they hold hands, susan, a tender moment as they plunge hundreds of feet. all right, susan hendricks, thank you so much. that does it for us, "cnn tonight" starts right now. good evening, i'm bill weir, and i can't declare the plane lost. that is what malaysia's prime minister told cnn today 48 days after flight 370 was lost from radar. we'll get into what that means for the search and the families tonight. and we have an incredible story of love and friendship
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amid psychological torment and international intrigue. it happened when three americans went for a hike and ended up in the most famous prison in iran. but we begin tonight with the battle over big government set in the sage brush of nevada. how cows and our militia and fox news turned one man into a modern folk hero. and how that man turned himself into a political pariah overnight. cnn's dana bash now brings us the legend of cliven bundy. >> reporter: for 20 years, nevada rancher cliven bundy has been battling the federal authorities over land. it came to a head two weeks ago. the armed militia members came to bundy's defense, joining in an old-style west showdown.
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bundy's crusade made him a hero, thanks especially to fox news and the host, sean hannity. >> i would think the federal government would be thankful. >> reporter: when senate leader harry reid called terrorist? >> i want to tell you one more thing i know about the negro, they abort their young children, put their young men in jail because they never learned how to pick cotton. i often wonder, are they better off picking cotton or better off under government subsidy? >> reporter: he tried to clarify but not back down. >> i'm not saying i thought they should be slaves. or i didn't even say they were better off one way or another.
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i wonder if they're better off. >> reporter: before those comments he drew praise. >> there is something incredibly wrong when a government believes that blades of grass a cow is eating -- >> it really is government overreach, government gone amuk. >> and jumping on the band wagon, they're running the other way. rand paul tweeted his remarks on race are offensive and i wholeheartedly disagree with him. and the spokesperson for senator heller says he disagrees with the racist statements and condemns them. sean hannity was blunt. >> i'm pissed off today. >> condemning bundy's comments. >> people for the right reasons that saw this case as government overreach now are like branded
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because of the ignorant racist, repugnant, despicable comments of cliven bundy. >> hannity argue that there is a double standard, that when liberals say something stupid or racist, the liberals don't get linked to it. still, some say this is what happens when republican candidate s pander, they risk getting burned. all right, thank you, joining me now from bunkerville, nevada, the man of the hour, cliven bundy, thank you for joining us. sir, how are you? >> good, i'm happy to be here tonight. >> all right, we appreciate you taking the time. you know, i got to hand it to you, cliven, it is not every man who can bring sort of our divided nation together. it is not every guy who can have harry reid and sean hannity agreeing. but both men came together today with the idea that your ideas are ignorant and racist and repugnant and hateful and
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extreme. do you understand why so many people from both sides of the political spectrum are so upset with what you said? >> no, i don't understand. i feel like that i -- what i said, i said from my heart. i didn't say it as a racial thing. i felt like that -- there is a group of people we're talking about, the black community. you know, my question was, i'm wondering, i'm wondering. whether they're that much better off in this situation we're in now with the government overreach. and these -- you know, i can see these people suffering. and my heart is going out to them, it is not against them. and then i compare it with slavery, i didn't really mean to to compare them with slavery. i meant to compare it with life on the farm or life in the south where they had you know, some chickens and gardens and they had something to do. and that is what -- you know, it
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seemed like the people in the city and their life, they're wondering what to do. they don't have nothing to do with their children. they don't have the -- the family unit is ruined. and so that is what i'm referring to. i don't think -- i don't think they have the life that they should have. they don't have the freedoms and liberty. they should have -- i felt like that -- i felt like that you know, the government has a lot to do with this depression that they're in. >> yeah, but cliven, come on, man, i'm going to send you a copy of a book called "12 years a slave." because it doesn't seem like you understand the pain that this entire group of people went through for so long. we live in an era now when a black man can be president instead of being owned by another. you espouse freedom. it is just deeply offensive, first of all to refer to these
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folks as the negro. and just because you drove by some people in las vegas and you make such sort of disgusting general judgments about people. it is deeply hurtful. >> well, you know, i would have really liked to have the discussion with private families instead of with the world. but i still make my stand. that is my feeling. and i felt -- i feel that because i seen it. and you know, i would love to have this discussion with private families. if i'm wrong, okay. but i don't think i'm wrong. i think i was right. >> well, let me ask you this, here is where the irony really gets thick. is that you are writing off a whole class of people, african americans as sort of dangerously dependent because they get government assistance. at the same time, you're grazing your cows on public land for free. so how are you not sort of a welfare queen in a cowboy hat? >> well, you know, i might be a
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welfare queen. but i tell you i'm producing something for america and using the resource that nobody else can use. would use or could use. and i'm putting red meat on your table. and maybe i'm not doing enough. but i'm trying. >> hey, i love a burger, i love a good filet. but there are 16,000 other ranchers in nevada who pay grazing fees. aren't you mooching off of them? >> well, i'll tell you there are 16,000 people not very happy. and there are 16,000 people that signed contracts with the united states government. and they should be thinking about sovereignty of the state of nevada and signing contracts with their county government. not the united states, i can tell them that much. >> but this land has been federal since we got it from mexico in 1848. the grazing laws have been on the books since 1934. i know your family has been there a long time.
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you own a little bit and we own the rest. and it doesn't seem reasonable. >> well, you better start to respect my rights a little bit and start respecting state sovereignty a little bit. and then you show me in the constitution how the constitution could possibly own this land i graze my cattle on, you take five minutes and show me. >> how does it feel to be abandoned by your friends on fox? i mean, the only reason we could get you on tonight is i guess they didn't call. >> you know, i don't think i have been abandoned. i think maybe they misunderstood me a little bit. but i think fox and i, and i think hannity and i are just right on. and i have no doubt that he would be -- support me if he understood really what is in my heart. and i think he does understand me. i don't think there is a question there. >> well, he called you an ignorant racist, and repugnant, and despicable. >> well, i hope i'm not that
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way. >> well. >> i'll tell you what -- i'm not. >> let me ask you about the folk there is who love you, and came from around the country packing their guns. now, there are plenty of people out there who agree with you in principle, who agree the government is too big and too stupid. but where you lose them is on the idea that every time we got mad at paying taxes or a fee or zoning law. if we all grabbed guns, we would all go back into the middle ages. are you and your supporters really willing to spill the blood of another american over where your cows eat? >> well, is america really willing to spill our blood and we the people's blood when we stand up for a little bit of liberty and freedom? i think that is the question. >> well, they backed off. and maybe they learned their lesson from waco, but they backed off. the only reason they say they
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came in so heavy was the threats you made and the resistance that you made all of these years? >> well, how could i be a threat? i'm only one man. you didn't see me with any army. you never seen me carry arms. you never seen me threaten them in any physical way so how can you call me i'm such a threat? >> so you're going to keep the -- was it the oathkeepers, are you going to keep the militia around you just in case the blm comes back for the cows? >> no, you know, i'm not keeping them, those people come here volunteer, and leave volunteer. i don't give them any orders. i never have. i never asked them to come, i'm not going to tell them to go either. >> okay, and what about the million dollars you -- the government says you owe for those grazing fees? >> why don't they send me a bill if i owe them that much money? >> they haven't been sending you bills all of these 20 years? >> no, they have never sent me a
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bill. and you know, they have raised it from $300,000 a couple of weeks ago to a million. i wonder how those cows ate that much grass? >> would you pay it if you had it. work out a payment plan? >> oh, i would pay it to the proper authority and government if i owed it. >> do you believe in the federal government? do you have any reverence for what happens in washington, d.c. at all? >> well, sure, i do. you know, i stated i pledge allegiance to the flag, i think our constitution is the best form of government in the world. i think that each one of those in washington, d.c. that we sent there is representatives, and senators have a job to do. i think the united states government has jobs to do. a lot of jobs. but i don't think one of their
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jobs is to be out here pointing guns at "we the people" here in the state of nevada. that is not their job. >> if they agreed to come back without any guns would you talk to them and work this out? >> no, i have no business with them. if the county sheriff would want to come or the state governor i would talk business with them. >> okay. well, cliven bundy, we appreciate your time tonight. thank you for telling your side. >> thank you for having me. you're welcome. well, you heard what the most controversial rancher in america has to say. when we come back, how he became the darling of the right. what it means for former fans and the culture wars in this country. stick around.
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well, you heard just a second ago, but how did rancher cliven bundy become such a poster boy for the tea party in many quarters? and what do they think of him now? >> reporter: from angry rants. >> your government has gone absolutely wild. >> reporter: to news made to look like an old western showdown. >> meet cliven bundy. >> reporter: conservative outlets, most notably fox news turned the rancher cliven bundy into a simple star. >> people tasered, they have dogs and snipers surrounding his ranch over grazing fees.
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>> reporter: his clash two weeks ago with federal authorities drew national attention. when wranglers came to impound his cattle, theed media was there. >> the standoff over the bundy cattle ranch. >> reporter: by then, john stuart had heard enough. >> how is this guy bundy a hero for ignoring federal law? >> maybe fox would have moved on, but the senate majority leader, harry reid, said this about the bundy supporters. >> these people who hold themselves out to be patriots are not. they're nothing more than domestic terrorists. >> reporter: lines draw, as msnbc attacked fox news, led by sean hannity, fights back. >> are they going to send snipers to everybody's house? really, we're not ashamed of our coverage, we're actually proud
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of our coverage. >> mr. bundy is a sincere man. >> he is a patriot and hero. at the vortex of this anti-government movement. >> what a difference a day makes and a reporter makings. all of those comments were before the racist remarks from bundy surfaced in "the new york times" this morning. and bill, it is amazing to me, the comments he made on the ranch were from saturday. the "the new york times" reporter didn't publish them for five days. fox news kept covering it. nobody else heard what he said until 24 hours ago. >> well, sort of a sketchy job there if you're going to pick a hero. and let's bring in two men likely to disagree, and ben ferguson on the right. mark, let me start with you, this idea that hannity said after he called these comments repugnant that there is a double standard. if somebody on the left says really offensive it gets brushed under the rug. >> first, i would like to see
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these left wing comments that he is raising. i need a counter example, i don't know any left wing pundits who talk about slavery or white nationalism who hurl the n word, whenever this stuff happens it tends to happen from the right. >> ben, do you have any examples? >> i think there was sarah palin, somebody once that said they should defecate in her mouth, do you not count that as extreme. both sides have extreme people? >> the argument -- >> let me finish my point. >> finish. >> they do say extreme things, including harry reid saying this guy is a domestic terrorist. that is how it gets ratcheted up. what he said about race, perverted. i totally agree with you, but the idea that the government should come in, in this way is what the original story was
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about. now, before you stand next to the guy you might want to vet him and a lot of people didn't vet this guy. the principle of the issue was, does the federal government really have time to be gun-toting down to some ranch in the middle of nowhere over a guy in grazing rights and are they abusing their power? >> well, then that message gets lost with what he said. if you do, you look at ted nugent, who else, there are other examples. but how will this affect the republican party in terms of picking a folk hero of the day? >> well, i took a lot of heat for saying this on my show. i actually was very cautious of mr. bundy. i said look, he has had a 20-year rift with the government. i think we ought to step back before we champion him. and i think that is what people are going to learn from this. that is just because in principle you agree with the idea you might want to find out who the heck he has been for the last 20 or 30 years.
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and no one seems to want to do that. it was the principle coming down on the little guy and bringing in guns in the waco-type way. and we already saw what happened in waco in history and do we really want to go there again? the money wasted. >> wow, ben -- >> but it is a selective indignation about government overreach. a selective indignation about government over-spending on the little guy. i could make the similar argument about the immigration, and war on drugs saying we're picking on the little people. >> that is a little different than grazing rights of cows. >> that is not the argument here, the point, ben, when we talk about this guy i could argue he is take willing literally millions of dollars from the federal government. there is some woman who may have gotten 100,000 over here life. let me finish, ben, and he represents a broader range of
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people who are doing the same thing. it is not just one bundy here, there are a lot of people doing this, this is the concern. ben, let me finish the point. the other thing is while i agree, most of the right including from sean hannity on down have run away from this comment. and i think they should have. often times what republicans are really saying, you can't be this explicit with it. you can think that black people are stealing from the government, and governments are bad. you just can't say it like that. you can do it -- >> guilt by association. that does worry me in this case -- >> here is the thing, though, for me. i'm new to cable news so this feels like my first night in the prison cafeteria. i don't know who is going to -- but isn't this about fox news more than anything else? they're the ones who crowned this guy. >> and you know what the shows are doing at fox news, they're focusing on harry reid, fox is very everythingive, taking a story, focusing on it, and then moving away from it at the time it decides the story is over.
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although to their credit, they said who can support him after this? i'll support the legal rights. we're seeing a lot of fox commentators moving away. >> when mr. bundy said i hope i'm not this way -- >> it is denial, though, it is denial. you saw him deny it. i think he doesn't want to realize that what he said was so out of whack with reality. and now he is probably trying to deal with this. and this is unfortunately going to be the biggest asterisk of his entire life. everything he has done. but he said maybe they should have been learning how to pick cotton. that is the end of the story for him in my opinion. >> your story has become a part of our culture. >> that is how we decide our values. ben, mark, brian, we appreciate it. if you could ask the malaysian prime minister about the flight 370. it would be 40 days and you could finally declare the
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and what might be the understatement of the year, malaysia's prime minister says there are things his country did well and things they didn't do well in the search for flight 370. and the malaysian prime minister says that preliminary reports on the plane's disappearance will be released next week. and richard joins us from kuala lumpur. he says he is not ready. i guess was it out of respect for the families that he says he is not willing to say that it is los lost? >> yes, slowly, when you put it bluntly to him, he is quite clear, the situation is such that the evidence points to the plane being lost. and malaysia airlines has come out and said the plane went into the south indian ocean and no one survived. but the prime minister feels that it would be inappropriate
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for him to come out and state something like that. at least until the search has not -- has gone on for a bit longer. because once there is real debris, once there is one piece of debris, bill, that they can point to, showing an aircraft, then he will come out. eventually of course, he is going to have to say that the flight is lost. he is not prepared to do it just yet. >> you also asked about the first night, what was detected on radar and what they know going forward. what did he tell you? >> well, there has been more rumors and g gossip about what the plane did. were they ignorant about what the plane was doing? because after all, the transponder was off. so to the prime minister, did the military see it in realtime?
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>> no, the military radar, the primary radar has some capability. it tracked an aircraft, which did turn back. but they were not sure, exactly sure whether it was mh-370. what they were sure of was that the aircraft was not deemed to be hostile. >> no planes were sent up on the night to investigate? >> no, because simply because it was deemed not to be hostile. >> don't you find that troubling that a civil aircraft can turn back, fly across the country and nobody thinks to go up and have a look? because one of two things, i understand the threat level.
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and i understand the -- either the plane is in trouble and needs help, or it is nefarious and you really want to know what somebody is going up there to do. so as prime minister, don't you find that troubling? >> you see, i'm coming back to my earlier statement, is that they were not sure whether it was mh-370. >> even more reason to go up and have a look. >> they were not sure. but it behaved like a commercial airline. >> nobody is fooled, bill. this is the smoking gun. this is the elephant in the living room. it my not have made one jot of difference to the final result, because at that stage the plane was doing whatever it was going to do with whomever it was going to do. but it would have told us what was going on, mechanical, nefarious. it would have had to have come out in the investigation. >> we appreciate it.
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occur . imagine you were an american being held in an iranian prison and you realize a sloppy guard has left the key to your cell in the lock. this actually happened to a young man named shane bauer, and after hours of nervous plotting, he waits until the guards are asleep and reaches out and opens the lock. but instead of escaping, he runs to the other cell and holds the love of his life. sarah shourd. they fall together, and for 20 minutes forget the interrogation, and the screaming and blindfolds, we have defied them. i will carry this love like a shield. when shane went back to see shield, he had no idea his ordeal was just beginning. they would spend 20 months,
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while sarah spent over a year in the particular hell that is solitary confinement. the three americans have a new book, the sliver of light. and this is their story. great to meet all of you. >> thank you. >> this is a psycho-drama, a love story and political thriller all in one. and it is an honor to meet all of you. but i have to start with the most annoying question i am sure you get. you were captured of course hiking on the iraq/iran border. what is wrong with yosemite? you're familiar with california, the redwoods are nice. what were you doing there, josh? >> well, i was visiting my friends. they were living in syria at the time. and we went to visit northern iraq. and the hotel manager, when we said where do we go to hike? he told us, a good place to go. we went there, and soon we found out it was not such a good place
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to go, we didn't realize how close it was to the border. >> but it was beautiful, you think it is war torn land and what american in their right mind would go there? but it is like the alpine, the sierras, there are waterfalls. you have an idea as tourists. let's get a sense of your mindset. >> it's hot, it is because i'm in iraq, yo, it's hot, because i'm in iraq. someone get me a fan! someone get me a fan! because i'm in kurdistan! someone get me a fan, someone get me a fan because i'm in kurdistan! >> i could have done that for you live. now it's too late. >> we blew it there. but i just wanted to give you a sense, carefree, young friends and lovers hiking. you were playing this game, would you rather -- you were hiking on the hill? would you rather come across mountain lions or al-qaeda. but you had no idea that iranian guards were even in the mix.
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so you go up the trail, you see a sarah, and he waves towards you. >> yeah, we assumed he was a kurdish, soldier, he would just want to talk to you. it is a common occurrence when you're an american traveling in the middle east, various intelligence or soldiers and police in countries to want to take a few minutes of your time and entertain themselves with questioning. we didn't think there was anything to worry about. >> there was no markings or borders or fence. >> no. >> and what went through your mind when you realized, oh, my gosh, we're in iran? >> well, i think that i tried to believe that everything was going to go okay for a long time. i mean, i was scared. but i thought it would be over after they you know, lifted our bags, realized we didn't speak their language and didn't have anything on us to be suspicious whatsoever. >> they wanted to put you in a car. >> they put us in a car when they drove us down a mountain. we were taken to a police station. they questioned us a little bit.
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there was a man outside the police station saying you know, americans have detained iranians for two years, certain iranians for two years, he kept saying, can you believe it? and i thought to myself, well, there is no way i have anything to do with that. and of course, that was just day one. >> you were in a car at one point and see the man in the front seat cock a gun, and you began to think they may just shoot us like dogs out in the desert. was that a real fear at that point? >> oh, yeah, especially those first few days we were just being passed from one group to the next. we had no idea what was happening. we actually were being held in an apartment and being interrogated. and we were taken out and just been driven around, this man pulled his gun out. we were taken to an empty country jail, and then drove across country and put in iran's central prison. >> you were able to call a
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friend before you got in the initial cars. so at least, who knows if you had not done that where you would be today. but imagine the sinking feeling, you describe a dream of being taken back and hiking, and then you realize you were driving towards tehran. and then you get to prison. did they torture you? >> we were blindfolded, sitting in a chair with people walking circles around us asking us to write our life story on a piece of paper. it took about two months for the interrogation to end. but within a few weeks, they could tell that we had nothing to do with the american government or intelligence agencies or anything espionage related. and they said it is obvious you're innocent. this is just political. >> really? they admitted that. they found a picture of a trip you took to israel on your camera. and oh boy, this is bad news, these are spies. >> at some point, first couple
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of days they were not sure what we were doing. and then it started to shift, to feel like they wanted to prove that we were spies, even though they didn't know we were. so any kind of piece of evidence they found they wrapped into that story. but ultimately they told us they knew we were not spies. but everybody in the prison, the guards told us we were not spies. but that was not what it was about. we were stuck in this political thing. >> so you were high value prisoners. so there were not beatings that we might imagine or dread. but there is a certain kind of torture that comes with solitary confinement, right? so the two of you were put together, which created enormous jealousy and frustration. but describe, sarah, what happens to the human mind and body. what were the stages? >> well, in the beginning, total panic, i tried to calm myself doing math in my head, so to get to my rational brain, that would
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reduce my emotional stress. after months you're reduced to an animal-like state. i would walk in my cell back and forth, back and forth, crouch down in the slot in the door to listen for sounds to orient myself. i completely lost control and awareness of myself and screamed and beat at the walls of my cell. >> you described forcing yourself not to look at a wall to see the beam of light that would come into the window because that was all the simulation you had to look forward to in the day. >> yeah, it was kind of the way we marked time. the light would come through, in the particular cell i was in, i knew when it reached a certain corner, the interrogators might come. and being alone, despite how much i hated being interrogated, i hoped that they would come every day because i needed interaction that badly. i was just trapped inside of myself. >> you were given time to gather in an exercise yard, i guess,
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pretty regularly. and you decided i'm going to propose to this woman. >> yeah, yeah. >> you made a ring out of what? a threads of a shirt? >> it was towel and underwear. >> how romantic. >> i decided it first when i was in solitary, i thought when it was over, when i get out, i'll propose. i didn't want to do it in prison. we got hints that she would be released. i thought i wanted her to know this, for us to be able to look forward to that, not just the terrible thing ending but to have kind of a new beginning. >> and that is not what every girl dreams about being proposed to in an iranian prison. but did that carry you? you talked about the shield of love. >> well, the first thing that i thought, he beat me to it. i had been thinking about doing the same thing for months and months. it did help. >> what also helped.
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one of the real emotional turning point in the book is when your mothers are allowed to visit. it turned out to be bitter sweet. it was propaganda. it showed that mahmoud ahmadinejad is doing something. but you were worried about a lump in your breast. and your mother, who was a nurse, encouraged you to use that story going forward. and you had all of these people working on your behalf. just over a year you were released first. >> they knew that the iranian government was getting a tremendous amount of international pressure that they needed to ease that pressure against them and release at least one of us if not all three of them. they played up my health problems, i had a clean bill of health. the iranian government knew that, as well, but it was a way to give in to the pressure without looking weak. >> and we have more on what you two had to go through and for another year after she left. it is an incredible story.
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back in prison, your hunger striking at times an trying to restain sanity, roommates and there's all kind of tense moments between the two of you. what was that year like? >> when shane and i first held together there was a relief of coming out of solitaire confinement. that lasted a little bit. slowly sharing a small cell together started to -- it's difficult to really be constantly be seen. constantly being looked at and to have someone constantly in my
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p peripheral vision. and after sarah's release it made our world even smaller. we found ourselves coming up to a bitter rivalry of where to place a water bottle. we became -- it became small. >> you were trying to make moon shine under the sink and all of these sanity exercises. what else struck me is the relationship you built with these guards. >> yeah. >> how do you regard them now? is there a sense of resentment? >> i think anyone who works in a political prison there's something wronging with that job. at the same time, i was and am grateful there were surgeon people there that helped us. there were people who made it so we could see each other, who gave us pens when they were illegal. one guard got us an antenna to watch the world cup. it was momentary human connections that made our lives a lot easier in many ways.
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>> and there were other guard were tyrants at the same time. >> i feel we were able to give back to the guards. when we were freed there were probably three gallons of moonshine. >> that will not go well with the muslims. >> yeah, it's illegal. >> when we come back, how a mystery man got shane and josh released from prison. constipated? .yea dulcolax tablets can cause cramps but not phillips. it has magnesium and works more naturally than stimulant laxatives. for gentle cramp free relief of occasional constipation that works! mmm mmm live the regular life. why relocating manufacturingpany to upstate new york? i tell people it's for the climate. the conditions in new york state are great for business. new york is ranked #2 in the nation for new private sector job creation. and now it's even better because they've introduced startup new york - dozens of tax-free zones
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a. sarah shourd, shane bower and josh fattal were trick aid cross the boerpd and arrested in 2009, charged with espionage and thrown in to iran's most notorious prison. sarah wasn't released until september of 2010, but josh and shane spent another year behind bars. >> so ultimately the reports i read is the sultan of oman was your savior in this, paid a half million dollars for you, a million for you. why and how? why this guy? >> i think oman is the switzerland of the middle east. they play an intermediary role. it helped iran. it helped the u.s. which are both their allies. >> who do you remember about
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your first moments of freedom, your first hug with your new wife? >> it was a blur, pure emotion, flying out of that plane. jumping in sarah's arms. see mig family. it is a moment of pure joy i have never experienced over than. >> the other romantic ending of you. there was a high school sweetheart you were thinking of all of those days locked up and now you have a 7-month-old son with her. >> he's the joy of my life. isaiah 7 months old. i was locked up and had no idea she was thinking of me. i would talk to shane, like be dreaming about this woman who i haven't seen or talked to or anything. he said you haven't talked to her in a long time. you don't know what she is thinking out there. luckily when i came out she was thinking of me. >> what is his middle name.
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>> isaiah azad. >> which stands for. >> freedom in farsi. >> it is a fantastic read. it tells us about our human condition. >> sarah and shane were married in san francisco in 2012. josh was their best man and he's a new dad. that's all for us tochblt "chicagoland" starts right now. cnn's original series "chicagoland" is proudly presented by allstate. are you in good hands? >> previously on "chicagoland" -- >> if you want to see america, you come to its heart land. what's the capital of that heart land? >> anything is possible. >> right here in chicago. there's no city like chicago. then you start to
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