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ran out of time tonight. we'll see you at 11:00 p.m. eastern for another edition of "360." "cnn tonight" starts now. good evening. i'm bill weir. thank you for checking in on cnn tonight. i abducted your girls and i will sell them in the marketplace. those are the words of the world's new erj arch villain.
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one of the members of a group that kidnapped nearly 300 girls because they had the audacity to go to school. tonight we're asking who are these monsters, and what are the chances we'll see justice? what's the chance that anyone can fill that #hope and bring home our girls? meanwhile, in ukraine, pro-russian militias continue to drive that region closer to outright war. my cnn colleague asked this guy if he had any military experience to go along with the ski goggles and machine gun. bring me a navy s.e.a.l. i'll show you military experience. f no lack of testosterone. . bullets are flying. words aren't working. we'll get the latest as putin's shenanigans are leading to a body count. and years before they're born, richard williams decided he would have a, two daughters, and b, turned them into tennis
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stars. you'll be stunned to hear the violent racism of the man who shaped their lives. he's here to share stories and parenting tips that may have you talking back at the tv. let us begin with the global cry filling both public squares and virtuals. bring back our girls they quell yell today from milwaukee to manhattan, london to lagos. this started two weeks ago in the upper right hand corner, the upper northeast corner of nigeria. biggest, richest country in africa. there are hundreds of different ethnic groups in this young democracy. but this one group in the northeast, an outfit not unlike the taliban has created hell on earth with attacks on schools and bombings on police stations and beer gardens. their official title is the congregation of the people of tradition for proselytism and jihad. the locals have taken to calling
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them boko haram which translated western education is sinful. it was founded by a guy hoping to turn nigeria into a pure sharia state. he said his followers reject all teaching that comes for the modern world, like rain. we believe it is a creation of god rather than evaporation caused by the sun that condenses and then becomes rain. like saying the world is a sphere if it runs contrary to the teachings of allah, we reject it. he was reportedly well educated, the leader, and drove a mercedes before being killed by police. but he spawned a group of these violent idiots learning to kill children just for learning that the earth is in fact round. and also killing muslim clerics who condemned them. they shot and burned 29 boys at a boarding school in january and shut down the education system in their neighborhoods. a couple l weeks ago an official decided to reopen the school. just for final exams. so 15, 16, 17-year-old girls,
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christian and muslim were there overnight when they came in trucks, jeeps, motorcycles and on uniforms they told the girls they were soldiers and would protect them. but when they burned down the school, the girls got worried. >> we thought they were soldiers, and they asked us to board a vehicle, which was headed towards zamboa, and my friends and i jumped from the vehicle and ran back home because we realized they don't look innocent to us. >> that was brave and smart. some jumped from the vehicles. they grabbed passing tree branches. others ran away once the terrorists made camp. more than 270 are still captive. some desperate parents wanted to has the terrorists, but only had bows and arkansrows. anger against the government has boiled over there, and today one of the current leaders of the terrorist group put out a rambling and repulsive 57-minute video scoffing at the world' concern and confirming the worst for the parents.
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[ speaking foreign language ] >> larry: jo >> joining me now, "new york times" nick kristof who has been reporting on the area where the girls were taken. good to see you, nick. >> good to be back. >> these guys make the taliban look sophisticated in a way. >> it's tragic because they're a reflection of the area and also a cause of it. and this kind of brutality, i mean the victims are not just those 276 girls, of course, it's all the other girls and boys who aren't going to be sent to school anywhere in northern nigeria for fear of another attack. >> you talked to the father of one of these girls? >> yeah. a heartbroken dad. these girls are the best hope for the region in an area with
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less than 50% female literacy. these are the brightest kids, the most ambitious kids and the bravest kids because they knew they were at risk going to school to take the exams. they dreamed so much of an education that they went anyway. hean now the best and the brightest who should be becoming doctors and lawyers are being sold for $12 each by abubakar. >> now a year ago, he was worning about about violations by the military, and there was dicey steps going on, but is there anything we can do? and we being the royal american we? >> well, there's definitely stuff that we can do in the sense that, in the media sense it has to come from nigeria. and the nigeria government's reaction has been disgraceful. the president has taken far too long to notice this. the nigerian army hasn't done
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anything to go after these people and the wife ordered the arrest of two protesters because she thought they were embarrassing the country. so international pressure can indeed help get nigeria to send troops to go after these people. it seems to me that we probably can in the international community help provide intelligence and satellite imagery that may help locate at least some of these girls. >> the state department said today in a briefing that they think a lot of girls have maybe already left the country. that they've been shipped across the borders. what's troubling is when he says we're going to sell the girls a @ marketplace, there's a huge marketplace. one group estimates there may be as many as 700,000 slaves just in nigeria, in that whole corridor over there. it's very ripe for human trafficking. >> but i think we should be wary of defeatism. if they move across the border, they move across the border into an area where we can indeed help
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rescue them. if they move to an island on lake chad, that's an area you can fly over and from the air you can identify people who are on those little islands. there's not a lot of tree cover there. so what is lacking here is not a solution. it's a will. it's a will to search. and with mh370 we had a major effort to find a much smaller number of people who had passed away. if there were similar interests and this were a priority, we could have much greater chance of finding the girls. >> i wonder if this will drum this up. we're not going to give too much of our message here. just to sample, this is another one of three leaders of bo boko haram talking about the western education. listen to this. [ speaking foreign language ]
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>> what is it about their opposition to just education? is it -- is it just a corrupted version of islam? how did they wrap their heads around that? >> it is a corrupt version of islam. but in a sense, they're right. what is the greatest threat to their extremism? it's not drone ls. it's education and especially educated girls. the best weapon against bo boko haram is to get more girls in schools. to get the educated women into the formal labor force and that would change northern nigeria. that's why the taliban shot him in the head and why the afghan taliban are throwing acid at girls going to school there and that's why boko haram are killing the girls. it's extremism. >> the threats are water off the back these days. nobody listens to his latest whatever. do you think the freshness of
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this,s that this is a novel new group that's so offensive will cause that international scrutiny to come to form? >> i hope so. i think the way it would have an effect is by embarrassing the president. and so far the nigerian authorities have been very focused on boko haram. they haven't really cared about violence in the provinces in the north. >> so it's out in the country. >> it's hoout in the country. it's low on their priorities. and you know, this is a case where international community can actually begin to shine a light on that and perhaps make president jonathan and the military change their priorities. >> and sigh friday from a military memorable name, what kind of government is he running. is it corrupt? >> it is corrupt. and this is rich country. nigeria is a well off country.
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they have the military. and they have the sentiment after boko haram, partly because of these bombings. but they have -- what they have done is to go around and round up every young man in areas where boko haram has support and kidnap them and starve them and kill them. >> and when people protest the jonathan regime, they are jailed. >> when people speak up for the girls, they detain them. it's a tragedy at so many levels. hopefully this may be a turning point for nigeria. >> always great to get your viewpoint. when we come back, he wages a war against other terrorists. jason russell. remember the kony 2012 campaign? does he think a hashtag can bring back our girls?
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also jason russell, who founded invisible children, to find and arrest kony, who is accused of killing and raping children and making them soldiers, horrible stuff. i will get to you just in a second, jacob. we want to understand more about the group. but we haven't seen you in a while since the incredible popularity of koni 2012 and the scrutiny that went after it. your twitter bio says love stories, hates clothes, as you have seen. ho how are you doing? >> yep, we're doing the same work. we've been doing it for 11 years. we're not stopping until every child soldier is returned home. >> catch us up on that effort. he's still out there. have you gotten any sense that they're closer to catching him? >> since the viral campaign. we've had amazing results.
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93% reduction in lra killing and there's an international man hunt for joseph kony, his arrest, and a bill has been passed for $5 million for his arrest. and so it's any day now. we are in hot pursuit and ready to see international justice realized. >> so you take credit in the decreasing number of his crimes. based on what? >> well, our programs are actually, we have defection programs where we have dumped over a million flyers over the lra region, over three different countries. and 80% cite it's because of the defection flyers or the radio messaging that they return. we get to reunite them with their families after they've been through rehabilitation. >> so school us on this group. . compared to the lord resistance's army, are these
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guys much worse? much bigger? how do they compare? >> they aren't much difference when you look at boko haram and the lord's resistance army. boko haram is much more connected to other groups around the world. joseph kony's group is at least now mostly isolated in central africa or the democratic republic congo. furthermore, it appears bo boko haram is in the several thousands of militants. and it has weaponry from the arsenals from gadhafi in libya. it has anti-aircraft missiles and other tanks that are looted from nigeria's armies. so certainly a more violent group. >> yeah, we saw that guy doing his video in front of that armed personnel carrier.
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and how do they recruit? are they at gunpoint, the way the kony people do? or how do they get the membership this big? >> it appears that they use similar methods that other militias in central and west africa have used, including abducting young teenage boys and forcing them into the group and brainwashing them through violence. but they do also benefit from some grass roots support because there is a tradition of rejection of the nigerian leadership and nigerian government there. and they've been able to take rejection of nigeria's central government and put it in a framework that has resonated amongst local people. but hopefully actions like the one it took this past week in kidnapping more than 200 girls will make all local people realize that this is an extreme group that does not represent
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any faction, religion, or ideology that is accepted within nigeria's mainstream. >> i know they have gone after more moderate clerics, other muslims who are indiscriminant with who they kill. how close are they to al qaeda? >> i believe they are very close to al qaeda. a report that came out this week suggests they received up to $70 million from various al qaeda factions. i'm not sure if it's that much money. it's very clear to me when osama bin laden was alive in pakistan, he was communicating and ordering money to be sent to boko haram in nigeria through various factions in northwest africa. it was from that money and that support that boko haram was able to turn itself a around a moe
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local group to one with now a transregional effect. >> yeah, jason, your video, i think was so powerful, the kony 2012. you're an amazing story teller. you have this beautiful son and it pushed so many emotional butto buttons. when you watch and see the folks holding up signs of bring back our girls, what goes through your mind? can you add to that fight? can you officer advice to people who want to duplicate what you did? >> i think a hashtag is a tool. it's a powerful tool that should start a real conversation. and that conversation should manifest into answers that the international community and everyone in between should be coming up with. we shouldn't allow any abductions of any children, no matter where they are in the world. and these are dark, complicated, sad issues that people don't want to face or realize. it inspires me to wake up and see tens of thousands of people talking about these abductions
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in nigeria. and you know, we believe that it's not about what we start. it's how we finish this fight. and for joseph kony, he's been getting away with murder for almost 30 years. and we don't think that's okay. we think our generation needs to set an example as to what happens with the warlord or any group that tries to harm the invisible children of the world. >> i follow a guy on twitter, a nigerian-american writer who tweeted what can i do to help? unless you're a nigerian with constitutional rights to participate in democratic process, almost nothing. he says, we can all support democratic process and education. but what do you tell people who want to take it beyond one hashtag and forget about this until the next one comes along? >> yeah, i mean, anyone can hear my voice. this has got to be more than a two-day, two-week, two-year campaign. if you really want to see the
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girls brought home, toef continue the fight until they are all brought home. it's challenging. the answers are difficult. i would say the ideology from that tweet is i roading. i think that we live in an ever evolving globalized world our friends really actually in multiple nations now. so therefore we have the right to protection each other when these girls who are teenagers or younger are being harmed. we have the right to do something. i don't buy the answer that there is no answer. >> yay son russell, jacob, thank you both for being with us tonight. really appreciate it, guys. bhen we come back, let's shift to violence in eastern europe. ukraine twe ukraine insisting they want to eliminate the country. richard haass tells us why the west is running out of time to stop it. aflac. ♪ aflac, aflac, aflac!
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russia's economy is tanking. threats of new sanctions are hanging overhead. but anybody who has been hoping vladimir putin may put his proverbial shirt back on and back down in ukraine may be very disappointed because his approval rating is through the roof. as ukrainian soldiers baa battle militants, russia accused kiev of continuing a war against the people of their own country. residents report flying bulls and buildings set ablaze. four people recordedly killed. nearly 30 injured in that city with each side blaming the other
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for everything. a military helicopter was shut down but 350i89s survived after it crashed into a river and were later rescued. and more on tougher sanctions. joining me now, richard haass, president on the council of fou foreign relations. good to see you. >> thank you. >> it's been a while. when you see the violence. you know odessa. do you worry this is going to be a war in some shape? >> it already is a war. it's a combination civil war. what the russians are doing to intervene. you don't have to invite to intervene. and that's what we're seeing there. >> and talk to me about putin. he doesn't care, does he? ultimately what the west says. is this a thumb in the eye or is this a l level of ego, given his enormous wealth that we don't read a lot about and his popularity.
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>> it's about putin and pugh tannism. he's in it for the long haul. as long as it plays well ads home, the political gain far outweighs the economic pain. and second of all, he has a goal to restore large amounts of the russian empire. you saw elements of it in georgia. you've already seen it in crimea. and it's going to continue so long as the ratio of what he's getting as opposed to the cost at home is tilted in his favor. . >>. >> should people in latvia be worried? >> if you're in nato, i would say no. he's not totally calculating. i don't think any in the nato orbit is threatened. countries like kazakhstan, one could see putten begin to have unrest in those countries and try to exploit it. and also, he may bin the process, but then the the process takes on a dynamic of its own. so you can't just say this is what russia is doing. you do have separatists in
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ukraine now. the process itself razz callized people. civil war breeds civil war. we're seeing that in ukraine. >> what can barack obama do? >> a couple of things. you talked about sngs sanctions. up those so it's hard to get the europes on board. use energy ingens. but probably in the short run it's helping ukraine become stronger. it's economic. it's political. it's military. we're talking about basic police organization and training. what we're seeing is the ukrainian police forces and military forces are borderline incompetent. any we can do to strengthen them with training and relevant light arms will help. >> if we give them night vision goggles and body armor. i keep saying "we." i hate when i say "we." if america gives these tolls to these guys, will that escalate
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things from the kremlin? >> again, the russians have things they can do. you have to decide what you're going to do. and it's less equipment probably than training at this point. they are so so ununited that hoouten doesn't have to take the 40,000 troops and bring them in. he can get the benefits leaving them parked. >> and are big european and american countries doing business regardless. does it matter to boeing or some other energy company? >> well, the european countries in particular are continuing to do business. they're worried about the financial consequences of cutting russia off. financial sanctions are probably the best. but we have to be careful. we don't want to move to a situation where american wheans pay a price and the european companies move in. that's why it ought to become much more of a priority for this
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administration to try to bring about the solidarity on dealing with this. >> let me pivot to a story we don't talk a lot about. syria. bashar al assad has covered from the kremlin. this is tough video to watch, folks. this is the latest alleged chemical attacks. this was chlorine instead of whatever else. horrific. horrific. we've seen the barrel bombs and so forth. what's the next tipping point here? where do you see this going? >> quite possibly there's not a tipping point. after three years it's a slow motion crisis. these are the hardest for democracy to deal with. there's not a dramatic point where you say we're going to do something. we may have had it a year ago. i would think you want to tarm the elements of the opposition that you can live with. if someone like assad continues
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to use certain weapons, we ought to think about taking them out. >> i was talking to john miller, nypd terrorism guy. he says cantina. >> it not only can, it will. i would think in europe that may be the number one security threat of this decade. it was basically terrorism 301. they're going to go to europe. some will come here. and we shouldn't think we're immune. the boston marathon attacks. that could become more common in this country. >> lord, i hope you're wrong. >> me too. good to see you as always. appreciate it. coming up, a father of o two of the biggest superstars in sports. richard williams is here with thoughts on parenting, donald sterling, his daughters. you can't miss it. next. narrator: this is the storm sea captain: there's a storm comin
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dominant female athletes of our time? long story. but you can start with the moment richard williams saw a woman with a racket receive a giant check on tv. that was the moment he decided his daughters should be tennis champions even though he didn't have daughters and knew nothing about tennis. or go back to any of the moments of his youth when he was insulted and beats by klansmen and cops. a violent upbringing in the south made him an angry, tough and determined man, but it also created the foundation of a dynasty. he describes it in his new book "black and white, the way i see it." >> it's an honor to be here. >> great to have you. race in america is a big thing your book. you were born to sharecroppers. >> yes, i was. >> shreveport. >> yeah, there was no sharing involved. like you said.
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made a millions dollars and kept his part. when your mother julia went sa into labor pains with you tried to go to the hospital in a mule cart. mule broke its leg. tried to walk and laid in the road as cars drove by. >> it was a time where i shouldn't have came into the world. didn't look like no one could survive that time. but my come being the mom she would could survive anything. i was born with a champion as my mom. my mom is my god. >> she -- your father, you write about, would come in just enough to make a baby and split. so there's no man in the house. >> no. >> she would pick cotton and pull you on the sack, right? >> yes. >> and so it was basic, basic, basic. and the racism you describe, just pick one. what was the worst moment for you? was it the klan? was it the cops? >> i think by the time i was maybe 8 years old or 7 years old, i got jumped on by the ku
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klux klansmen. and at that age you weren't about to whoop three men. i tried to kick and move about. when when i seen my dad looking on and would not help, and one said i think this is something to him right there, my dad was running so fast. by mim taking a moment to look at him, i took off running. that taught me you have to be ready for everything. be you is fought back a lot. >> a little bit. not that much. there's only so much you can do at a small age. that was the second time i got jumped on by the ku klux klan. >> you stole a towel and robe and put makeup on your hands to infiltrate. for what? were you going to seek vengeance? you could have killed them. >> i was going to do that. i felt a lot of hatred towards
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me, and there was nothing i could do. i had gotten beat up not long before that by the sheriff department. he took my three rabbits. i had so much pain that night. i road my bicycle. i could ride that thing. i had a reputation that no one could outrun me or ride a bicycle faster. so if i got ahead of them, they wsht going to catch me. not even in their old truck. when i went there that night, i went to hurt someone. >> your mother later said i see prejudice in you. you need to free your mind. free your heart. do you ever? do you still have resentment deep inside? >> dr. carter in shreveport, louisiana, i thought he hated me. i told my mom, dr. carter is privilege. she said, well, i am too. you? yeah, see. you don't have anything. your dad doesn't help you. she says let's go see dr. carter. she said, you don't have no
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husband. you have to help me raise this boy here. and she and dr. carter raised me, and my mom taught me that hatred and prejudice is in the mind of people that wasn't going to do anything. she says you're going a long ways in life. she wants me not to have prejudice. so me mom taught me not to be prjs at all. during the process of not trying to be privilege and getting beat and called names, it was very difficult for me to overcome those things. >> this is an amazing story. you make your way to southern california. you start a business. you're watching tv. you see virginia rizik. >> got a $40,000 check. and you said, i'm going to have daughters. you had stepdaughters. you said i'm going to have daughters and they're going to be incredible tennis players. >> yes. my mom taught me they were my daughter. and i raised all of them and did
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the best i could to help that mom. venus and serena, i did the best i could do. i believed i could make two number one players, and that's what i started doing, writing a plan up before asking the mother to get pregnant. >> that's a little selfish. why not have kids and see maybe they want to play soccer? >> play baseball. why tennis? did you deliberately pick the whitest sport you couldsome. >> they may not want to play at all. i thought i would raise them the same way my mom would raise me. anything my mom wanted me to do, i was going to do. my mom taught me anything i need to do, i could achieve it. i could be better than anyone else in the world if i prepare hard and long enough. that's what i did with them. >> so when we come back, self taught, had to scare the gang members out of the court in
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compton. got beat up in front of venus when she was a little girl. i want to talk about that and the donald sterling story. a lot to talk about with richard williams. stay with us. ♪ ♪ no matter what kind of business you own, at&t business experts can help keep it running... seamlessly. so you can get back to what you love. when everyone and everything works together, business just sings.
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. between them venus and serena williams have won 15 titles and back me now, their dad, the guy who taught them everything they know about the game, richard williams. so your mom was pretty rough. she would hit you with a switch. and you write about parenting this way. throw this quote up. i surely don't understand all these parent today who are always telling their kids how special they are without prove it. that's not faith, that's flattery. that is going to make some moms mad. i feel that we are way too soft on our children. the way venus and serena were raised they didn't have any choice but to be strong. what is your definition of
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abuse? >> punishing them for something they do not deserve to have. i have seen a lot of kids in tennis. their wrists would be broken or get beat up. a lot of kids -- didn't serena get beat if she lose? i said no, i pay them. i want my kids to learn how much i love them. but the most important thing i think about is it will damage your kids forever. i didn't want to the that with my kids. >> you moved your family into the toughest, crime-ridden neighborhood in l.a., compton. you thought it would make them tougher. a lot of people would have a hard time with that. >> yes, they would. let me give you example here. if you take the roughest neighborhood what came from that area? easy e, snoop dogg.
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>> the first two are rappers. >> they came out of some type of ghetto. including joe louis. that's what i wanted to teach my kids. there's nothing free but you can work your way out of here. my kids visit beverly hills so much and every hill you can think of out there, hollywood hills and all those places but you have to work to get there. nothing is free. and they was great workers and their education was better than their dad's. >> your daughters are now in their 30s but this is serena and venus with their dad. >> serena serve it to the out corner and venus is serving to the deuce corner. and you can see that serve looked very good, hopefully. they're going to serve about five or ten more balls for you. and great serve -- >> thank you, daddy. >> you literally had to beat the
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gang members away from this court in compton with a stick. but once you started entering tournaments and the lily white world of tennis, did you sense resentment? >> from whom? >> from the other families? >> let me say this to you also, the gang members help me too even though they beat me up. they were the first to sympathize and come back and say we did it wrong. we want you guys to make it. and, actually helped us to make it. and that helped us a great deal. it's all in the book. so i think that's what helped us a great deal. when we entered the tennis world i knew venus was going to win. they wanted to play. i didn't want them to play junior tennis. when they played a lot of white parents would say i hate to see them girls coming they win all the time.
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they were taught to win. but more than a racket and fast feet, what they had was a great head which is in the book. >> in 2001 you were at indian wells, a notorious chapter where venus pulled because of an injury with a match with her sister. and they haven't played since. >> not at indian wells. >> i'm sure plenty of people booed because they were disappointed but do you think it was racial? >> not think, i know it was. not only that. venus had notified the wta office that she was hurt. and had seen the doctor. the wta should have announced what venus had said to them hours ahead of time. they did not. i'm not saying that the wta was prejudiced but i thought it was prejudice of the people who live in homes that cost millions of dollars that would boo a poor
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kid that is supposed to be an american. >> and let me ask you about donald sterling, should he be forced to sell his team for what he said? >> i think he should give it away. they should give it to me. >> give it to you? as an olive branch to the black community, that's very generous of you. >> but this -- it takes a person like donald sterling. this is far from his home this all takes place in the home. he grew up with 77 years of disliking people because of the color of their skin. so i think he is prejudice and he proved it. >> yeah, it's been wonderful talking to you. the book "black and white the way i see it" wonderful stories in there. richard williams, great to meet you.
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one recorded racist rant. while clipper's owner donald sterling twists in the angry winds, the creator of the face visor has hit the trend. for years they couldn't give these things away. but then came a woman named v. stiviano. here she is with barbara walters. >> can you tell me what your relationship with donald sterling is? >> i'm mr. sterling's right hand-arm-man. i'm mr. sterling everything. i'm his confident, his best friend. his silly rabbit. >> his what? >> his silly rabbit. >> free bentleys and apartments
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are for rich men. that arrangement defined their relationship until v. released the recordings which made her paparazzi bait extraordinaire. >> i love your sandals. where are they from? >> banana republic. >> i love them. >> why are you wearing a shield? >> it's my job. >> i don't know. it's my job. >> and fashion forward beekeeper, that's my job. there's a million uses for this thing and you might get mistaken for v. but for the factory that supplies them, the business is up 600%. this was the last one they had in stock and i'm keeping it just in case my daughter grows up and becomes best friends with an
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80-year-old millionaire racist. that's all for us tonight. cnn special report with don lemon starts right now. >> this is a cnn special report. i'm don lemon. for years the l.a. clippers were the laughing stock of the nba. tonight the clippers are one of eight teams left in the second round of the playoffs. as a team they have never had it so good or so bad. 28 owners will soon decide the fate of donald sterling's investment which could be worth over half a billion dollars. how would that vote go? i will talk with layla a lichld, daughter of the world champion and civil right icon muhammad ali. and we have the latest on the search for flight
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