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allegations against another v.a. hospital. the clerk tells cnn he was told to cook the books to cover up long wait times for sick veterans. now there's a new federal investigation. also right now, another new audio repo audio recording reportedly from donald sterling. in it, he said he knew he was wrong when he made racial statements and he did it out of jealousy. a group of scientists and engineers reportedly challenging the idea that malaysia airlines flight 370 went down in the indian ocean. they say that assumption is based not on fact and it's retime to think the plane's path. hello, i'm wolf blitzer reporting from washington. more shocking allegations today in the scandal involving veterans who died while waiting for care at v.a. hospitals across the country. investigators with the office of inspector general are now at the
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v.a. hospital in san antonio, texas. they're checking appointment records after allegations from a whistleblower, a clerk who handles appointments. our drew griffin spent months uncovering these allegations. he's in san antonio with this exclusive report. >> reporter: wolf, while the v.a. secretary and his staff try to answer questions in washington, there's yet another investigation under way. this one right here in texas. san antonio, texas, is the latest location where investigators from the v.a.'s office of the inspector general are on the ground, trying to determine if managers at this sprawling v.a. hospital were trying to hide the fact veterans had been waiting months to get care. and if any veterans died as a result. the allegations come from this clerk, who works in the hospital's medical administrative services and is speaking publicly for the first
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time. brian turner says his job is to help veterans secure appointments. help says he says he was told to fudge the numbers. he was to meet the v.a.'s own national time line goal for setting appointments. that goal, no more than 14 days from when a veteran wants an appointment, called the desired date. the problem, he says, the appointment deadlines cannot be met. he says he was instructed to simply schedule the appointment months and months in advance, while making a note that this is the veteran's desired date. >> what they're saying -- what we've been instructed -- that -- they're not saying fudge. there's no secret wait list. what they've done is come out and just say, zero out that date. report the following day that someone has a wait period that's longer than the 14 days. the standard is 1 to 14 days within the time line of a desired date.
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>> irregardless of when the appointment took place? >> correct. >> it could be three months and it looks like 14 days. >> it could be three months and look like no days. look like they had scheduled the appointment -- >> so fudging the books is my -- >> that's your -- >> that's my -- >> i would call it that. you could call it that. the v.a. doesn't call it that. they call it zeroing out. >> zeroing out. in a statement to cnn, the v.a.'s public affairs office says turner's allegations were investigated. and that based on our internal fact finding conducted april 25th through 28th, we found the claims by this employee were not substantiated. but turner questions just how much fact finding went on. he says no one asked him about his allegations and, in fact, he says when he began e-mailing his concerns to other staff members, he was told to stop it. >> they sent me up the very next day. >> the very next day. >> the very next morning i was called into an office and told not to e-mail another person. >> turner, an army veteran
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himself, has asked for whistleblower protection and became a witness in an investigation now being conducted by the v.a.'s office of inspector general. the investigation focusing on delayed care. alleged falsification of recordings. and possible medical harm to veterans at the san antonio, texas, v.a. hospital. wolf, brian turner isn't the only person inside a v.a. facility coming forward with these types of allegations. we're hearing them from all over the country. as congress continues to investigate why veterans have been dying waiting for care. wolf. >> a shocking story. drew griffin on the story for us, thank you. at the half hour, i'll speak live with senator bernie sanders. he's the chairman of the senate veterans committee which will hold a hearing next week on this growing v.a. hospital investigation. bernie sanders joining me live later this hour. house democrats faced a tough debate among themselves
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today. thou should they join republicans in a new probe in the attacks in benghazi or boycott the special panel right? the house voted largely along party lines to form a committee to investigate what happened in benghazi, a terror attack that led to the deaths of four americans. let's bring in our chief political analyst gloria borger and our chief congressional correspondent dana bash. dana, democrats, what, they've just wrapped up a meeting amongst themselves. what are you hearing? >> house democratic leaders are coming out of nancy pelosi's office saying they don't feel they're anywhere closer, in fact, maybe they've taken a step backwards in terms of what they've been asking for to be able to participate in this select committee on benghazi. it's all about process. that process is incredibly important because it's about access to witnesses. it is about participation and consultation with regard to interviews they're doing and
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subpoenas. so what we're told is the offer that the house speaker john boehner and his staff gave to the leadership just moments ago was simply not okay. because it says they will do all of this to the extent possible but makes no promises about democratic participation. i want you to listen to what nancy pelosi said earlier today about why democrats are so resistant to participating without those promises. >> either people got tired of benghazi or they never knew about it in the first place. so let's not be accomplices to this diversion nary tactic. it's all subterfuge because they don't want to talk about what our responsibilities are. we have to make a judgment as to -- how dangerous we think they can be with their misrepresentation of the facts of the committee. >> so, wolf, this is -- there's no sensitive division amongst democrats. this is about tactics and
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whether or not politically it makes more sense for them to be in the room or not be in the room. right now, they say that is really going to be determined by how much, again, access the house speaker gives to them. we're expecting pogsably a meeting between nancy pelosi and speaker boehner which could happen down there in a little bit. that's at least what pelosi has asked for. >> we'll stand by for that. you wrote a column on cnn.com. among other things, you write this, if the democrats decide to boycott the committee, it's at their own risk. they will lose out on the conversation, no matter how silly they think it is. they will be uninformed about witnesses, strategy, subpoena. what's at stake? this is a critical decision. >> it's a very critical decision because it's clear. nanny pelosi called this a stunt. they believe it's a witch-hunt if they participate. they give the committee some legitima legitimacy. i would argue, if they stay away, wolf, then they're out of the picture and they can't get their message across. make in mistake about it.
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this is about appealing to partisans in the 2014 midterm elections. it's a short-term strategy which could backfire on republicans if they overdue it. we've seen that kind of overreach with clinton and impeachment in 1998. but this is about getting your partisans out to vote. republicans are hoping -- this isn't about changing minds. republicans are hoping they will motivate and mobilize their base and the democrats can't just sit back and say, by the way, we're not going to participate. because hillary clinton, i would argue, would probably be subpoenaed to testify. susan rice. don't the democrats want to be there so they can be on that committee, asking her questions? >> you make a fair point. dana, a lot of democrats think this is all about hillary clinton, that republicans see this as an opportunity to attack her especially if she runs for president of the united states again. >> absolutely. there are a lot of democrats here on capitol hill i've talked to all week, especially this
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morning, as they've been debating internally who think it's all about hillary clinton. i've had some pretty senior democrats opposed to participating in this, saying they do think it's about hillary clinton. saying she's a big girl, that she can handle it if she's sitting in a room with seven republicans. you know, she can sort of take care of herself. we don't need five democrats sitting there to help defend her. same goes with susan rice and other potential witnesses that they expect will be subpoenaed to come before the committee. however, even while you do have a lot of people thinking it's about the long-term strategy to try to damage hillary clinton for 2016, i just asked nancy pelosi that same question and she agreed with gloria. she doesn't think so at all. if republicans who were worried so much about presidential politics and about 2016, they would be doing things to help their potential republican candidate, like pass immigration reform. she said she believes this is all about getting out the base in 2014 in november.
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and, you know, she of course had to take a whack at republicans by saying it's because she doesn't think their main strategy, which is obamacare, is work. >> you know, gloria, the controversial republicans have been out there, the national republican campaign committee. they've been raising money on this whole issue of benghazi, which is, you know, obviously a sensitive subject. >> yeah, and that's the problem with this. trey gouti, would is part of this investigation, came out and said, i don't think we ought to be raising money off this. once you start raise money overtly off this it plays into the argument, as democrats would argue, that it's completely political. look, there are questions that need to be answered on this. we've spent a lot of time. the state department did an investigation. everybody agrees it was botched. the question is whether there was a cover-up.
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republicans are convinced there was. democrats are saying no, there wasn't. in the grand scheme of things, what this does, in terms of 2016, if they can put a nick in hillary clinton's armor as a way of getting their base out to vote in 2015, all the better for republicans. there's a danger of overreach for them. so they have to be very careful. >> we'll see what the speak and democratic minority leader decide to do. gloria, dana, guys, thanks very much. yet another audio recording now surfacining purporting to b that of the disgraced clippers owner donald sterling. in it, he has a new explanation for his racist rant. i'll ask the raptors general manager about racism in the nba. is there any racism? we'll also talk about the abduction of nearly 200 schoolgirls in nigeria.
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there's new audio recording reportedly of donald sterling in which he explains why he went on a racist rant with his assistant v. stiviano. in the recording released by radar online, sterling allegedly attributes his comments to jealousy, claiming he just wanted to have sex with stiviano, but he also admits he was wrong to say the things he did. listen to this. >> i have a girl here who has black kids and is partly black i think myself. i love the girl. so she's telling me, you're wrong. i know i'm wrong. what i said was wrong. but i never thought the private
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conversation would go anywhere. out to the public. i didn't want her to bring anyone to my game because i was jealous. i mean, i'm being honest. and, uh, doesn't matter. no one's going to hear it but you and me so. >> he was wrong on that front as well. cnn's brian todd is following the story for us here in "the situation room." what do we know about this new audiotape? >> we know radar online put this out. we can't awe then tuthenticate is donald sterling. does talk about really what was at the core of this, his ways emotion, why he made the racist comments to stiviano. this, according to donald sterling, was at the very heart of it. take a listen. >> i'm talking to a girl. i'm trying to have sex with her.
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i'm trying to play with her. what -- you know, if you -- have sex with a girl and you're talking to her privately and you don't think anybody's there, you may say anything in the world. what difference does it make? then if the girl tapes it and releases it, my god, it's awful. who thinks anybody's going to tape something? what the hell? i'm talking to a girl. the girl's black. i like her. i'm jealous that she's with other black guys. i want her. so what the hell can i in private tell her, you know, i don't want you to be with anybody. i mean, do i have -- can i -- am i a person? do i have -- freedom of speech? >> v. stiviano has said she was not the person who leaked the audio to the media and she also said she did not have a physical relationship with sterling. the nba, we found out, is not
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commenting. it is not clear -- what is key here is who made the recording? that's not clear. when we know more about that, a lot of this will kind of fit together as to why we're hearing some of this now. we're also trying to reach donald sterling's attorney for comment on this recording. we've not heard back from him yet. >> we are hearing from doc rivers, the head coach of the clippers, about the possibility that shelly sterling, the wife of donald sterling, she says she wants to remain the owner of the team. >> she wants to remain a 50% owner of the team. what doc rivers said, he was asked if he wants to remain as coach if that happens. rivers said, quote, i think it would be very difficult. i guarantee you every person would not be on board with that. end quote. here's another quote from rivers. i think it would be a difficult situation. we wouldn't know who was really in charge. we have asked people close to shelly sterling for comment on that. on those remarks by doc rivers. we've not heard back from them.
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again, doc rivers is being a little bit kacagey about it, saying not everybody is going to be on board with this. >> all right, thanks very much, brian. brian todd reporting. still ahead, we're going to talk a little more about sterling and the nba. the general manager of the toronto raptors will join us live. we'll talk to him also about a subject very close to his heart. the arrival of some u.s. military advisers in his home country of nigeria. the desperate search for hundreds of kidnapped girls. his very strong views on what's going on in nigeria right now. and pomp, circumstance and controversy. why crimea's v-day celebrationings are making more people very upset. starts with back pain... ...and a choice. take 4 advil in a day which is 2 aleve... ...for all day relief. "start your engines"
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the day russia celebrates defeating the nazis in world war ii. but where it's being celebrated is raising some concerns. the russian president vladimir putin is in crcrimea. his first visit since russia annexed it from ukraine. the white house reiterating its rejection of the annexation, saying putin fuels tensions in the region. our own phil black in crimea. there's a serious question of whether or not the russian president would attend the celebratings. he obviously has. what was the mood like when he arrived? >> the crowd was incredibly happy, wolf. this has really been a celebration throughout the day. not just of world war ii history but clearly a celebration of more recent history. russia retaking crimea. so when vladimir putin arrived on boat, came into view on the bay, the crowd really erupted. but they've been loud through the day. we've seen military parades through the streets. they've been partying along the
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shoreline of this port town. we saw a very impressive flyover involving dozens of mill carry aircraft. it was all very big in scale. a very large celebration indeed. vladimir putin spoke to the crowd as well. citing a lot of russian history and congratulating them on what he says was a great victory. promising that together crimea and russia would be stronger. wolf. >> phil black watching this story for us. we'll have much more coming up later today in "the situation room" as well. the investigation into veterans who have died while waiting for medical care at v.a. hospitals across the united states is now expanding. coming up next, we'll have a live interview with senate veterans affairs committee chairman senator bernie sanders. we are going to find out his reaction to word that investigators are now digging into records at a v.a. hospital in san antonio. hey! [squeals] ♪
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welcome back. the investigation focusing in on veterans who have died while waiting for care at v.a. hospitals across the country now expanding. investigators are checking records at the v.a. hospital in sab antonio, texas. there are allegations that asking clerks in sab antonio were cooking the books to hide the fact that some veterans had to wait weeks, if not months, for simple appointments.
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the senate veterans affairs committee will hold a hearing on the state of the v.a. health system around the country. the embateled veteran affairs secretary shinseki has agreed to testify. senator bernie sanders is one the biggest supporters of veterans on capitol hill. joining us live from burlington, vermont. thank you for the good work you're doing to help veterans. it's pretty shocking. assume you are as outraged as so many other people right now when they see these reports of cover-ups and that veterans dying while waiting for treatment. >> okay, let me just say -- make a couple of points. number one, when men and women put their lives on the line to defend this country, it is our very deep moral obligation to make sure they get the best quality health care that they can. that's -- i hope every american accepts that. number two, where there are problems, those problems have
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got to be thoroughly and independently investigated. now, what i did and what the v.a. did, as soon as the investigations were made about phoenix, is the v.a. inspector general. and, wolf, you have to understand, they are independent of the v.a. they went out. they are doing an inspection, an investigation right now. i just spoke to the i.g. this morning. i said, do you have the resources to do it. he says, yes, we do. it's going to be a comprehensive investigation. the day after, the results of that investigation are made public, we are going to move aggressively on hearings in the senate veterans committee. but this is what i also want to say, wolf. if you go out and you talk to veterans all across this country, what they will tell you is that the v.a. provides good quality health care. many independent studies suggest that the health care provided at the v.a. is as good or better than in private hospitals or in
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nonprofit hospitals. v.a. has been cutting edge in a number of important areas like telehealth and so forth and so on. here's the other important point. the v.a. today -- wolf, do you have an idea of how big the v.a. is? >> we know there are a lot of veterans in the united states -- you're right. they rely on the v.a. hospitals and by and large they're doing excellent work. when you hear about some of these -- some of these outrageous allegations and you've heard -- >> you're right -- >> -- a whole hearing on it, they can do better. i just want to get your reaction. the american legion is now calling on the secretary of veterans affairs eric shinseki to step down. >>cy i am more than aware of that. i have talked to -- >> just listen for a second, just listen to the commander. >> one death is tragic.
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preventable deaths are just unforgivable. and for them to try to cover it up, we just can't forgive deaths of veterans here at home. battlefield's one thing. when they come home seeking medical care that they have earned, then there's a real problem. >> do you have confidence in eric shin che eric shinseki? >> here's one of the concerns i have. every member of the senate, certainly my committee, wants to make sure every problem at the v.a. is morery dea rmore thorou with and addressed. veterans languish and die on v.a.'s hospital secret list. at least 40 died waiting for appointments. et cetera, et cetera. did you read "the arizona
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republic this morning"? >> did i? i didn't. >> because this is what it says. this is important, wolf. it says, quote, dr. foot's allegation that 40 people died sometimes has been miscast by other media as an assertion that those deaths were attributable to delayed care. foot said information provided to congress and the inspector general did not indicate how individuals died. et cetera. before we rush to judgment, you want to know the truth, i want to know the truth. right now, the inspector general is in phoenix talking to dr. foot, talking to everybody else there. we are going to get to the root of the problem. but apparently now dr. foot is not quite so sure that it was 40 people. maybe it was 20 people. maybe it was no people. maybe it was more. i don't know. you know what, we need an independent investigation to get to the truth of the matter. and once we have that information, i promise you, we will have all the hearings.
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you know how politicized washington is now. some of my colleagues honestly believe we should end social security, we should end medicare, medicaid, the postal service. they don't believe the government should do much. then you have this big v.a. system. 151 medical centers. they don't like that idea. so suddenly i feel -- not all, i don't want to suggest all, but some of this is being politicized. where there are problems within the v.a., this huge system, which is dealing with 200,000 people every single day, we're going to get to the root of it. but before we cast -- >> senator -- >> -- let's get the facts. >> i couldn't agree with you more. the american legion is not the tea party. it's not the republican party. the american legion, as you well know, and you have helped more veterans than most other senators.
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you're very passionate about this, as am i, as are so many americans. when the american legion says they don't have confidence in the secretary any longer, they want him to step down, that's not the tea party, that's not the republican party. >> you're right. >> just a simple question, do you still have confidence in eric shinseki? >> i think based on the work he's done, in transferring, for example, a paper system, in terms of the backlog to a digital system, in terms of several other innovations, yes, i do. if the facts prove me wrong, then i will rethink that. as of this moment, if you're asking me, do i think shinseki has done a good job, far from a perfect job, far from a perfect job, but has he done a good job, i do. do i think we should ask for his resignation today before we even have the facts about what went on in phoenix, no, i don't. >> that's why i like interviewing you, senator, because you don't mince words.
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you tell us how you feel. you answer the questions. i wish all of our guests would do that. i want to stay in close touch. i'm very passionate on this subject. i want to make sure we do the best for our veterans. god knows they suffer for all of us. they do important work. they deserve only the best medical care. >> wolf, can i just make one last point. >> go ahead. >> today -- today the v.a. is going to see 200,000 veterans. if it is -- if they do well by 95% of those veterans, a very high number, 10,000 people will be unhappy. but that's true in every medical facility in this country. we're not perfect. the vavt is not perfect. let's get to the problems with the v.a. let's recognize overall they're doing a good job for our veterans. >> senator, thanks very much for joining us. we'll continue this important conversation. >> thank you. >> more questions for the
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after what seemed like an eternity, the families of those missing on flight 370 want the experts to reanalyze all the information collected so far. repeat, all the information. now a new story in "the atlantic" magazine questions whether the signal sent to the plane from satellites can be trusted. experts based their search on that information. have they been looking in the wrong place all along? joining us now, the author of that important article, ari schulman, the executive order of "the new atlantic" and our aviation analyst peter goelz, former managing director of the ntsb. in relatively simple term, you
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conclude, why the official explanation of mh. 370's demise doesn't hold up. why do you believe they may, repeat, may, be looking totally in the wrong place? >> well, the point of the article i wanted to get across is that the math of the satellite pings is actually somewhat straight forward. described it as being like a game of marco polo played across 22,000 miles of space it you've got the satellites sending these pings to the plane and it's lee spending. basic characteristics of what you expect the responses to look like. one of those, for example, is the plane is stationary on the runway before takeoff. the satellite isn't moving relative to that position. you would expect there to be no what they call doppler frequency shift. you expect that shift to be zero. if you look at the beginning of the graph, it's up about 85 hertz. showed the plane is moving. something is off with that interpretation. >> you and the other experts you spoke with, you think they may be looking in the wrong place? peter, i know you've read the article not once but twice.
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very long article, very technical. what do you think? >> i think that this is the absolute, you know, you can expect this to cap it. because the malaysians and inmarsat have not released all of the data from the beginning. i thought it was a pretty compelling article. the investigation is going to have to respond to it. i spoke to sources at the ntsb. they said they remain confident in the work they've done. they're going to look at the article. as are the people in australia. everything is on the table at this point. >> do you sources at the ntsb think it's possible they may be looking in the wrong place in that southern indian ocean, the plane could have gone somewhere else? >> they're still confident in the work they've done with the australians and with the brits. that they're looking in the right place. clearly, they haven't found anything. there is no trace of this aircraft. they're open to all suggestions. >> they did find what they believe to be four pings from the supposed black box of that
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jetliner in that area where the -- which coincided with the inmarsat satellite data. what do you say about that? >> i think i'm not as versed in that technology. but from what i've read, basically those pings should only transmit over a mile or two of ocean -- >> that's what they did say they transmitted over a mile or two -- >> but they've been outstretched -- >> -- looking within that radius and they haven't found anything. >> much larger than that radius. if their technology works, for scanning the ocean floor works, you think they would have found something. >> that's the most compelling evidence, they haven't found any wreckage at all. they did hear those four pings and that's what they're basing their search on. >> and there was something odd about those pings. they were not pinging at the right frequency. >> they were slightly off. >> slightly off. >> but they're arguing that could have been caused by the water the environment, stuff like that. >> i've heard arguments both ways, wolf. so we're not sure. that's what the reassessment is going on right now.
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>> the article is entitled why the official explanation of mh-370's demise doesn't hold up. the last sentence, searchers have yet to find any hard evidence, no so much as a shred of debris, to confirm they're looking in the right ocean. thanks for coming in. coming up after the break, international assistance now arriving in nigeria to help find the nearly 300 kidnapped schoolgirls. our guest, the nigerian-born massu, the general manager of the raptors of the nba. this situation strikes close to home for him. ple a question, how much money do you think you'll need when you retire? then we gave each person a ribbon to show how many years that amount might last. i was trying to, like, pull it a little further. [ woman ] got me to 70 years old. i'm going to have to rethink this thing. it's hard to imagine how much we'll need for a retirement that could last 30 years or more. so maybe we need to approach things differently,
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[ speaking foreign language ] >> the plight of the girl certainly hits home for toronto raptor's general manager masai ujiri. born in northern nigeria. leaves his native country, loves africa. i know this hits very close to home for you. what can we do to bring those girls back? >> i think one of the crux of the issues is honestly not identifying this thing on time. i think for us to actually accept help from outside is a great step. i think it's an atrocity that we waited this long, and it's -- this thing happened april 14th and it's taken so long to get the needed attention that it has gotten now. >> when you see what's going on,
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you grew up actually not very far away, correct me if i'm wrong, masai, and you and i have known each other for a long time. you grew up not so >> i grew up in the area and we have always talked about and the terrain is hard there. it's difficult. i think in society, a good percentage of good people and some not so good people. for me, growing up was enjoyable. i was happy. with all of those problems coming, you need to step um up and sometimes where they don't know as much and we need to seek help. we call ourselves one of the biggest rising economies. i think we have to step up and
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take care of all the little things like security, hospitals, roads, and getting into a terrain like that in northern nigeria, which i know is full of good people. it's unfortunate with this situation but we need to step up as a government and as a people to go find these girls. >> and i assume that you welcome the united states, britain, other countries including china now telling the nigerian government we're ready to help. >> yes. i saw that and i think it's huge. i think the government should really accept this and we should get this thing moving because our borders are loose. those are things we need to step up on and actually address the situation. some of this militia that is happening over there. with the insertion of these
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countries coming in for help, i think we need to accept it and move quick. >> it's hard for us to understand, and you lived there, grew up there, this group, they go after these little girls because they're simply getting an education. they don't believe girls should get an education. it's hard for us to grasp the brutality of the concept right now. i wonder if you want to comment on that notion. they don't care. if a girl is getting an education, they have got to go and grab them and effectively sell them into slavery. >> i grew up with muslims. they are great and good people. they had a very good. i grew up in university town. it's tough to see because i grew up around smart, very smart
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girls. they deserve, they really deserve at least an education, an opportunity to go and express themselves and for me, growing up in my -- in the environment that i grew up and to see this, i think it's very harsh. we really need to step in. >> i know you're a proud son of africa. next time we will also talk about what is happening in the nba. your raptors and my washington wizards, we have got a lot to discuss. good luck to all of those little girls in nigeria and their families. we hope they are back with their families very, very soon. thank you very much. >> just ahead, the lieu win ski scandal was so many years ago.
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>> a lot of people expect the former first lady, former senator and former secretary of state to make a bid for the white house again in 2014. the host of a saturday morning show on cnn is joining us live. what do you think? is it a done deal? and if she does, will the whole monica lewinski scandal be a
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serious problem for her? >> my expectation is that she gets into this. the net net of lewinski reemerging is only positive because it portrays her once again in a very sympathetic light. >> i assume she's going to be asked about it. a subject i also assume she really doesn't want to discuss. >> you would think not, but i'm sure to have this relitigated pubically only makes her look victimized and to the extent that plays a role politically, i guess it's a better thing than a worse thing. >> talk again about "talk," your new novel coming out. tell us about this book. >> i wanted to write a book at the polarized media world. i'm a strong believe in that
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inability to get along in dc stems from the rise of the polarized media. i thought maybe it will get more notice if i take more lipts and write it as a work of fiction. it has got a serious message. >> what does baudy mean? >> some of the language might raise your eyebrow. might make you rub that beard and say wow, i didn't know he was capable of those thoughts. >> you have got a period, too. the book is entitled "talk." it's a novel, a good read and i recommend it to our viewers.
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michael, congratulations. thanks for joining us. >> thank you for having me. >> that's it from me. i'll be back, 5:00 p.m. eastern. newsroom starts right now. >> i'm in for brooke baldwin. he did it for sex? new graphic and revealing audio recordings reportedly of donald sterling of why he made racist comments. the 80-year-old allegedly admitting that he wanted to sleep with his gal pal v stiviano. cnn believes the man's voice is sterlings but we have been unable to confirm that the voice is his and we do not know who the other person is that he ends up