players association roger mason, he said the project won't accept anyone in the sterling family own the clippers. not you, not your wife, not your son-in-law, not your daughter. do you believe that? >> i really don't know that. people beside him i think, not the media, not the players but the nba. >> owners? >> pardon me? >> owners? >> the owners. if the owners feel i deserve another chance, then they'll give it to me. >> but there say path for you to fight their decision, isn't there? >> of course. but if you fight with my partners. what at the end of the -- at the end of the road, what do i benefit? especially at my age. if they fight with me and they spend millions and i spend millions, let's say i win or they win, i just don't know if that's important.

>> why wait so long to apologize? it's been a couple weeks, you could have come out -- >> well, that's a very good question, i just -- i'm so emotional distraught. and the reason it's hard for me, very hard for me, is that i'm wrong. i caused the problem. i don't know how to correct it. >> do you trust people? >> i do. >> there are a couple phone recordings just in the past week of people who talked to you on the phone who seems to be your voice who sold it to vradar online on tmz? do you have anyone around you that you trust? >> i don't know. the only one i've talked to magic johnson. >> you have talked to him? >> twice. >> did you apologize? >> he knew the girl well. >> did you apologize to him? >> well, if i said anything wrong, i'm sorry.

he's a good person, and he -- what am i going to say? has he done everything he can do to help minorities? i don't think so. i'll say it. i'll say it. you know, he's great. but i just don't think is a good example for the children of los angeles. >> so there you have it. the first take on donald sterling from his own mouth. let's get some response now. malik rose, two-time nba champion, game only for cost cast philadelphia and ms. mel robbins. you have the content of what is said. mel, let's start with you, anything you heard that changes your opinion in a positive way? >> absolutely not. you know, i kind of feel like this is not the catholic church,

chris. this is the nba. it's a professional sports league. and at the end of the day, it's business. and racism is bad for business. and this is a little too pathetic of an apology, and it's a little too late in my mind. >> that gets to the main question, malik rose, do you believe the apology from mr. sterling, do you think he's really sorry or sorry what's happening to him? >> i think he's sorry he got caught. i don't think he's sorry one bit what he said. he's sorry that it got out there. now, this trouble is looming for him and his familiar. but as far as being genuinely remorseful about what it said and who it hurt, absolutely not. >> let me stay with you, when you hear this man talk about magic johnson. did you think he was suggesting that magic taped his conversations? did you think magic had something going on with his woman as he calls her what did you make of that?

>> well, his woman say woman bit name of michelle sterling. i doubt that magic had anything going wouldn't any of those women one for say that he was having anything to do with the recordings but to say that he hadding to to -- the unmitigated gull is without mish measure. magic johnson say man who has opened up countless businesses in minority sections. and he's served at the right hand of the president of the united states, leading the charge, educating people about a virus that to this day is december sim mating the minority communities. speak for me who grew up in the inner cities and didn't see one man other than my pastor wearing a suit on a daily basis, he inspired me to want to wear a suit. for mow to hear donald sterling saying that magic johnson is not

doing something for the minority community is highly insulting. >> mel, when you're hearing that, this san older man, his wife says to barbara walters, i think this may be early dementia, do you think he's aware of what he's doing and this is his ability to get out, dror you think he's clue jls. >> you know, i actually think he's just a little clueless right now. i think he's 80 years old, he comes across all over the place. what he says seems contrived. for what it's weather, my personal opinion is the tape that came out that he was having the phone call that conveniently said the talking points that he was led this way, i think he probably leaked it. i don't think the palm ji's sincere. i agreed with malik. i'm sure he's sorry, buttese sorry about what happened. he's doing damage control.

and maybe, just maybe, if he throws down the apology, maybe he can avoid the vote not happening. who knows, maybe shelly, his wife, has put him up like this and they're working together. he comes out and apologizes. she's on barbara walters apologizing. it's a little too convenient. >> a quick point on you, anderson may have been generous in his suggestion he made to mr. starling. there's a path out of this to fight it for him. legally, do you believe there's a legit path that would keep the nba from forcing him to sell or just delay it? >> i think it's just delaying it, chris. most us have read the constitution. the only thing we haven't read are the documents between donald sterling and the nba as an individual owner. we also don't know what the trust says. but at the end of the day, this all kicks back to the constitution, chris. if they get the votes, which i

don't think they will, which is ultimately going to delay what is going to happen, a sale. they're not going to have that happen. they're going to vote him out and adam silver takes possession at commissioner, so he's the one selling, not donald sterling. >> last thing for you malik, is there anything that this man could have said that would have changed your mind? >> absolutely not. i heard pretty much everything i needed to hear on the initial tape with miss stiviano, those sounds like his feelings for the last 30 or 40 years. keep in mind, when he grew up, there were separate water fountains, there were separate schools. some people unfortunately in our country were exposed to that. it's part of their life. and i don't think they'll ever change. >> malik rose, mel robbins,

thank you for your take. there's a lot more in this interview. literally, there's something about all parties involved including how he feels about the woman who record them. is this just a taste to set you up for the day. the full interview with dornl sterling and andersoncooper tonight at 8:00 p.m. let's go to ukraine where separatists in one hot spot say it's clear. voters in the eastern city of donetsk announced results saying self-rule won by a landslide but with no election monitors in place, their claims are, of course, in question. cnn senior correspondent nick paton walsh is kiev with the latest. what are voters saying about this vote, nick? >> reporter: well, in kiev, the interim president says it's a farce and it's here in

slovyansk, it's a sense of war brewing for days not. and i was awoken this morning by tank fire, sustained, for about 30 minutes. the results of the referendum, we heard yesterday, totally expected. a large turnout they claim, in a huge number in favor. this is never an open debate. it's about endorsing the unrest and push deeverybody out of this town. and towns around. there's gunfire at one polling station, but the key thing the people are waiting to hear and they're hearing it now what the kremlin says. they suggested perhaps delay this referendum. but now, they're suggesting, too, that while they respect the will of the people of donetsk, while the referendums have taken place, they believe the best way to realize results is through negotiations, with here in kiev with terrorists and separatists here who says that kiev needs to withdraw their forces and

recognize them to actually start talking. that's a long shot. and i think you get the feeling that russia is starting to get the difference between what washington says started as unrest and what comes neck. michaela? >> nick paton walsh. thank you for that. firefighters are battling a wildfire. 100 homes in amarillo are in ruins now. 1,000 more at risk. hundreds of people were chased from their homes. officials say the fire started sunday afternoon but now they're not sure why or how. 50-mile-an-hour wind gusts whipped into a frenzy. it's now 75% contained. no injuries reported so far. this morning, we're learning new details about the terror threat that shut down the embassy in yemen. al qaeda attempted to kidnap two yemeni employees last month but

two gunmen were captured instead. investigators believe this is part of a wider plot. investigators are trying figure out what made a hot air balloon crash into power lions and crash at a virginia festival. both passengers worked for the university of richmond women's basketball program. they were remembered at sunday's graduation ceremonies. all three bodies were recovered over the weekend. >> an extensive search. >> an extensive search and that ceremony was supposed to be a time joy. the washington monument is set to reopen since 2011 when that quake rocked the area. the quake caused a substantial drak in the top of the monument. the world's tallest stone structure. this morning, nearly here in years and $15 million later, the tower is back in business.

cnn's erin mcpike is in washington with much more. good morning, erin? >> reporter: >> caller: kate, good morning. i'm sure you remember from your time in washington, the washington monument is the tallest building in washington as well, in fact, there's a regulation that no building could ever be made taller. so, of course, the national park service took extra care in completing this project. it's generally on time and budget, although the very tough winter we had here set it back a few week, kate. >> and, erin, talk to me how extensive the damage was? >> reporter: well, kate, you know of the one-foot long and about inch-wide crack at the top that allowed water to pour into the monument and down the steps. you'll probably see surveillance video there of all the debris that fell. but also there were about 150 cracks in total. so it was a pretty large

project. and the repair process, as you know, took three year, but they had to have some inspectors ra pal down the side of it to get it right. >> and receipt storation, it was pretty painstaking, right? >> reporter: it was. and you should see the time-lapsed video of this three-year process. scaffolding went up for a while. the scaffolding was lit up at night which a lot of people thought it was a cool thing to see the washington monument lit up at night. as you mentioned it was a $15 million project. congress funded $7.5 million. and the other half came from a philanthropist named david rubinstein. >> david rubinstein one of the owners of the car low group, full disclosure that my husband works for as well. >> i don't get how people work

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cnn's anymo cnn's nima elbagir and her producer and cameraman are joining us live with much more that went through a lot to get there. and then you were able to speak with this girl who seemed terrified for what she'd gone through, nima, tell us more. >> reporter: absolutely, kate, you could still -- almost a month after the attack, you could hear the fear in her voice. it was tremoring while she was talking with me, with good reason as we saw with the release of the new video, boko haram has been able to carry on an extraordinarily brazen attack. seven large lorrie-tile trucks brought in to ship these girls out from which they were sleeping in the dead of the night. and they've also been able to keep some of those girls together. some details we're getting about the video, there are 100 or so girls in that video. they've been able to get them,

they've been able to move them, and they've been able to hold on to them. when we got there, we got a broader sense of why they are able to move around with such impunity. take a watch. says that road few are now willing to travel. attacks by the militant group boko haram are constant in this part of nigeria, but what happened in chibok put them on notice. these rooms are where the girls were sleeping when they were told they've come to protect them. the girls started to assemble when they realized who the men really were and it was too late. this girl managed to escape. she's now too fearful to show her face. too fearful to go back. >> a big lory?

>> yes. >> was it one or more? >> several. seven. >> reporter: trucks, motor bikes, residents tell us this was effectively a shopping trip for boko haram. over 200 girls dragged from their beds to be sold off as bounty. a message that the edicts on female education must be heeded. but a way also for big men with guns to make money off of terrified girls. >> if it it's in chibok, i'll never go back. >> you'll never go back to school? >> yes. >> because they made you afraid? >> yes. >> reporter: before the militants left, they destroyed everything they could. textbooks, the library, the laboratory, their attempt to forever shutter this school. elizabeth mary and friends, members of the same church, their daughters were also friends, hoping to one day study medicine. they and many of their classmates never made it home

from school. >> we are pleading with them to leave our daughters. we don't have power to do anything that requires power. >> reporter: they say they still feel powerless, no closer to finding their daughters, nearly a month after they were taken. >> many of the parents we spoke to have now told us that they are not prepared to take those risks anymore. they are keeping their daughters home from school, kate. >> and, nima, just getting there, to get the interview, to see the village, it was dangerous in and of itself for you and your crew. it's a trip that should take eight to ten hours. and it ends up taking some four day perhaps was it like? >> well, the closer we were getting to the epicenter of boko haram territory, the more alone we felt. there was wasn't really much of any security presence. we ended up having to take a local armed police escort. i have to tell it you, kate,

they weren't particularly keen to go there with us. these are people supposed to be protecting these people on the ground there, and they're afraid for their lives. you can only imagine what it was like for the villagers trying to get over the trauma of that attack. they're now decided in chibok. they've been going but with machetes, knives, they refuse to trust anyone. >> that seems to be the new normal for them. do they have any trust in the nigerian government? there sure seems to be a discrepancy on how the nigerian government is saying and what the people of the village are saying? >> absolutely. we couldn't believe it

ourselves. it's extraordinary, given what these people have been through, there's no military presence. not what you would expect, a few checkpoints but incountence themselves, nobody willing to stand and protect these people. you heard the mother there, the only faith they have is in god and in the hope they will wake up to see tomorrow and hopefully, it will be a tomorrow in which their girls are returned to them, kate. >> you describe it as extraordinary yourself. you and your team went through extraordinary lengths and facing extraordinary danger to get there and bring the story to light. thank you for bringing it to us, nima. thanks so much. >> of course, for nima, it is the job of being a woman in that situation, especially when you know females have been the currency of violence is just terrible, just terrible. and a problem for that region and all over the eastern part of nigeria, there is no security for them.

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am i entitled to one mistake? it's a terrible mistake, and i'll never do it again. >> topping our headlines, that was donald sterling speaking exclusively with cnn, asking for forgiveness for the comments that could cost him ownership. sterling says he's hoping the nba will give him another chance if they take legal action to remove him. we'll have more of this interview coming up. including what he said and what sterling said about the woman who record him. the exclusive interview on "anderson cooper 360." and results of aseparate vote have not been released. representatives in kiev have condemned it calling it a sham. and saying it may make the conditions worse. separatists say the region could secede or about annexed by russia. defense secretary chuck hagel is headed to the middle

east for a four-day tour today. he's headed to saudi arabia, then jordan then israel. over the weekend, hagel addressed the dead lid delays where cnn has been reporting on extensively. he even defended the embattled v.a. secretary and said the backlog problem for veterans began years from eric shinseki took the job but the government officials missed it. those are your headlines. this morning, a new side of hillary clinton and the family. and a glimpsety former secretary of state's new memoir "hard choices." in a glowing interview released by "time" focused not on her personal life but on her professional life, and here's brianna keilar with more. >> reporter: it's the first look inside hillary clinton's highly anticipated memoir. a revealing tribute to her mother dorothy wadden, in an

audio exempt released on "vogue" website on mother's day. >> no one had a bigger influence on my life or did more to shape the person i became. >> reporter: clinton said she describes her mother's hardscrabbled childhood sent to live with severe grandparents who locked her in the room for a year as pun shlt for trick or treating leaving at 14 striking out on her own. clinton asked her how she survived. >> i'll never forget how she replied at critical points in my life, somebody showed me a kindness, she said. >> reporter: by contrast, clinton said her mother always gave her unconditional love and support including after she lost the campaign for president. >> having her so close became a source of great comfort to me, especially in the difficult period after the 2008 campaign. i'd come home from a long day at

the senate or state department slide in next to her at the small table at the breakfast nook and let it all pour out. >> reporter: clinton said she felt newly moved to take the advice she's sure her mother would give. >> never rest on your laurels. never quit. never stop working to make the world a better place. that's our unfinished business. >> reporter: clinton doesn't say if that unfinished business includes another try for the white house. brianna keilar, cnn, washington. >> for more on this, let's bring in amy chozick, national political reporter for "the new york times." maggie haberman senior is write forepolitico. good morning. >> good morning. >> why release this first. why release this well-timed to mother's day excerpt, do you think? >> exactly the way you just said

it. it's a very feeling and relatable story. dorothy rodham was an interesting woman. and i think the clinton folks are very concerned about the main factor that she didn't have in her 2008 campaign. connectability, relatability. that audio excerpt say piece of that. it's supposed to let people relate to her, understand who she is and connect. whether that works say different issue but that's the goal here. >> do you think it's -- do you think it will have an impact? >> i think it a good first step. i think talking about anyone's mother is very human and relatable. her mother had an interesting life. her mother had a difficult life. we don't know how deeply she gets into other issues. what people want know is about hillary clinton herself. not just her relationship with family members. >> isn't that kind of the problem, of course, you're not going to criticize someone's love of their mom, not even you.

but it is this idea, especially among those of you who are doing the coverage of contrivance that everything is planned out. but is there a risk by doing something as wholesome as loving your mom is seen her as part of the act? >> right. i immediately thought in 2008 there was so much wrestling to whether to show her the commander in chief or the soft side. obviously the commander in chief side won out and that was not effective. of course, the political reporters are saying, oh, this is a sign that says i'm a mother, a daughter, excited to be a grandmother, and she's showing that softer side of herself. it's impossible not to view that softening her image. >> and brianna had this in her piece, on the unfinished business. mom measured her life how she was able to help others.

nest rest on your laurels, never quit, never stop making the world a better place. that's unfinished business. people of course are going to read deeply into that line "unfinished business." >> of course. the other thing about her mother, i thought was interesting was that the clintons occupy this rarefied world. they live in new york. they go to hamptons. she gets paid to talks to wall street. and this comes from i'm from western roots. one generation removed from her. she was a nanny, she worked hard. >> why does hillary avoid the obvious, she's running for president, until she tells us otherwise, she's running, she's doing all the other things you're supposed to do. why do this game? is this just for us, a layer of anticipation that we get to cover before the actual anticipation? >> as fun as it is, it's for everybody. i think it's for herself.

i think for the polls. it's the numbers, her numbers are worse when she's seen as political, the longer she can drag that out when she's not viewed like that, it is good. the benghazi focus has taken a hit on them. to the extent she can delay that point and that starting gate, she's going to. >> let's talk about the political and that benghazi focus. marco rubio was asked about hillary clinton on abc this week, here's what she said? >> i'm sure she's going to brag about her time in the state department, and also its failures. whether the reset in russia or the failure in benghazi. >> what grade do you give her as secretary of state? >> i don't think she has a passing grade. >> you think she's an "f"? >> yeah, if you look at the diplomacy pursued at her time in the state department, it's failed everywhere in the world. >> one, what is marco rubio trying to get out of this, and, two, is the book going to answer

any of those questions? >> i don't know it's going to answer those questions even if you're objective. and that's what remain to be seen. for marco rubio, it's a clear hit to the republican base. >> it's worked very well for rand paul, so he's walking a very well ready toen path. >> i think the book has to define her tenure in the state department. she struggled as an accomplishment. she said you can read the details in the book. i think there's a lot of anticipation finding what republicans call it odometer diplomacy. >> i think rubio gave her an opportunity. because the easier criticism to counter is you're terrible at everything. if you're saying you're terrible at everything, yeah, you're giving up an opportunity to offer up generality. well, actually, i traveled more

than any secretary of state, i guess i'm not terrible. >> i think to amy's point, i think she need 2s to come up wi something other than i traveled more than anybody. >> who got those mile, amy? >> i'm starting to wonder if too much anticipation is put on the book. everyone is waiting noor answer, definition of what happened at stake. >> must be terrible for sales. >> then there's that side of it, chris. >> maggie, amy, great to see you guys. >> what's going to be in this book? i can't wait to see it. where's that money go? coming up on "new day," the nfl are they really ready for an openly gay player. did you see what happened when there was a moment of affection between michael sam and his boyfriend. wait until you hear how other nfl players react to it. we'll take you through it. ♪ norfolk southern what's your function? ♪

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welcome back to "new day." so this was the moment michael sam had worked his whole life for. the first openly gay professional football player just drafted by the st. louis rams, kisses his boyfriend on national tv in celebration. then what happens, several of his new colleagues wind up going into tirades on social media, including don jones who tweeted horrible, in relation to the kiss. he was slapped with a fine. meanwhile, derrick ward had his own sweets saying sam shouldn't have kissed his boyfriend because children were watching. so is this a real reflection of the league? what does it mean? let's bring in donte stallworth. so, donte, no reason to read the tweets. just in general, they were negative, showing this type of affection by someone who is gay is wrong.

do you believe these two guys are reflective of a lot of fellows that sam is going to have to deal with in the league? >> i think they are reflective of a small number of guys in the nfl. it's a community where, you know, guys have their own opinions, and they should. but i don't foresee michael sam having any issues when he gets to st. louis. it's right in his backyard right where he went to school at a7. and obviously, the rams knew, going into this, what they were getting into. i think jeff fisher and the rest of the organization have a great handle on what's going to happen. i think his teammates will fully accept him. i think that there's a small number of guys, whether it's on his team or whether if it's in the whole nfl that are probably not in the same mind frame that will be accepting. but i don't foresee any issues for michael once he gets to

st. louis. >> we hope you're right, right? and again, not to exaggerate it it was just these couple of guys who came out and did it. so that does suggest that most of the guys would be okay with it. when you came in as a young guy had a ton of athletic potential and hadn't worked on other parts of yourself yet as much. you had your own issues about who was the same as you and who was different and why. he gets on the team, is that something that can really just go away? >> i think it can. and i think it will. and that's, you know, like i said, from the very beginning, back in february, when i first heard that michael sam was -- that came out as gay and to the nfl draft, it has to be a strong organization that can hold him down and make sure that he's able to be in a workplace environment that's suitable for a professional environment. and i think that jeff fisher is capable of doing that. i've -- during my free agency

period, i've had a chance to meet with him, and i've known guys that have played for him. and he won't stand for any intolerance. >> that's the point. jones is slapped with a fine. derrick ward is out of the league, who care what is he says. what do you do with an organization, if you tell guys if you say anything to sam, not only may he -- because he's a strong guy, but i'm going to do this and this as an organization, how do you deal with it? >> i think, initially, once you draft him, i think honestly it's off limits. once you're on a team that drafts michael sam. because you've seen what's happened with guys that were not on the st. louis rams. so, from that issue, i think that -- i think his teammates will be accepting. and the ones that won't be, i think they'll be hush. once they get to know the kid. once they see how much of a hard worker he is. he's just here to play football and not worry about that other

stuff that people are trying to bring into the situation, he just wants to play football, so once they see what kind of a kid he is and hard worker, i think it will dissolve over time. >> you make an analogy that's powerful and may be bothersome to people, you say what bothers me of them talking about him being gay smacks as the same intolerance as racism. when is interesting when you look at what's has beening in the nba with donald sterling and what's acceptable to the league, what do you think of that situation? when you look at what's going none the that situation, and this man says in the nba, i'm sorry, i was duped by this woman, do you think it's something that anyone can stand anymore? or does he just have to go? >> i think the nba made the correct decision. and a lot of the other players and even the owners here in miami, mickey eriksson, he

started to say that there should be zero tolerance for that kind of behavior. no acceptance for that type of behavior in professional sports. and really, obviously, in any other workplace. but especially in professional sports where so many people look up to us as role models. and you have kids that are watching and young people. i think the nba did a great job. in comparison with donald sterling and this situation. it's a very real comparison. and a good friend of mine jamil hill tweeted yesterday something to the fact, the same people speaking out on michael sam and how is he going to incorporate in the nfl, some of those same people with the similar thought processes that back in the jim crow days where they thought that -- people black people drinking from the same fountain

as white people would contaminate the water. or, you know, it's just that same type of thinking, so it really bother please as an african-american haman to hear other people, especially african-americans to speak out against michael sam. we had martin luther king jr. and malcolm x fight for our rights. it's the same issue, if you look at it, it's the same exact issue. it bothers me to hear people talk about that. >> it's about tolerance and intolerance. in the nba, they're trying to kick this man out for it. we're not seeing as much evolution of it. we'll see what happens. jones didn't get kicked off the team, but he did get fined. so it will be interesting to see how intolerance is dealt with from this league going forward. donte' stallworth, appreciate the talk. coming up, the data behind the flight 370 pings is not

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in line with inflation. this is the buzziest nondeal i've ever heard of. still no confirmation, apple is buying beats by dre. it will be the biggest deal with dre with the widely publicized video that will soon be taken down. stay tuned will apple buy beats? stay tune. >> there's a big meeting to make plane tracking a priority after the disappearance of flight 370, of course. a big new offer from inmarsat, the company at the center of the search for the plane. the satellite company has a big offer. mr. chris mclaughlin. thank you very much for joining us. what's the offer you're making? >> very simply, an offer to have free tracking of commercial

airliners, utilizing the equipment that's already on board some 90% of the wide-body jets that are flying over the transoceanic areas. >> you're a business, why would you offer this valuable for free? >> well we've actually been doing it 30 years since our foundation the global maritime distress service. we've been doing safety services for aero for 40 years now. with flight 370, we came to the conclusion we should help, we would do something and we would do something because it was the right thing to do. >> how doable is this? obviously a very interesting and intriguing offer, a free service that's so valuable. but is this something that could be easily implemented or very costly? >> well, actually, it's very easy to implement. some 90% of the world's wide-body jets are already installed with the equipment.

it's basically a matter of taking a basic handshake between the network and the aircraft and adding in data that's been generated by the aircraft position, speed, location, and come off the aircraft itself. it's really like imbedding a text message into each of the aircraft. it's not high-tech and it can be done. and we'd love to do it for the industry. >> question is, one more basic question about it, what will we be able to do now, once this were to happen with finding airplanes that we can't do now? how would it make it better? >> well, if you can imagine if every handshake between our network and every aircraft had the basic location, the speed, the altitude, just in there as a text, should anything like 370 happen again, instead of looking in an area the size of europe for a lost aircraft, you would know what the location data was in, say, the previous 15 minutes when the aircraft went missing.

so you would narrow the search area immediately and hope to also direct -- also director rescue searches in the right place. >> mr. mclaughlin, while you and your company are in a generous mood, i ask for another request. why won't you release the data and basis for analysis that you used in finding flight 370 to the general public so that other experts can weigh in on the data points and maybe help advance the analysis? >> because, i think you're thinking of crowd data. it's the truth is, it's not our data, the data belongs to the malaysian authorities and it belongs to them for the investigation that's going on at the moment. we have shared what little data we have. remember, it was only seven data points and we have shared a model which has then been validated by four other independent groups. all of those groups are content with the model that we put forward. but it's a matter for the authorities to decide what they're going to do with their

data. it's not something inmarsat can release. >> but you know not all groups are not content. there are many who feel you do have data and points of analysis that could be very helpful in shaping our understanding. and for some reason, you won't release it? >> well, as i've said, the data belongs to the investigation, it doesn't belong to inmarsat. we're very happy to share a model which has been validated by at least four other parties and we're happy they're working with them. and those parties are confident they've we've got model guides. we don't have a huge data pool that's available. it just doesn't exist. >> who are these experts that are reviewed the model? >> as you would expect, aviation specialists, obviously, boeing, hard way manufacturer that had equipment on board the aircraft. obviously in the uk and the investigation board as well. highly qualified, highly competent groups. we've looked at what we have.

but have also included information that's come from other neighbors countries. other nationals with assets such as satellite tracking. such as ships and submarines and aircraft in and around the area. so it's a contribution that we made which has been added to by the appears as well. and this is a unique thing that's happened. and it's something that we hope we've helped with. we hope that today's offer cuts through this unfortunate situation where aircraft can currently still disappear. it's quite extraordinary. >> what does malaysia have that you don't have access to in terms of releasing things to the public and allowing the best minds we have to get in the business of finding this plane? >> well, as you appreciate, malaysia is the country where the aircraft was registered and, therefore, malaysia is the center of the investigation. and they have data from the neighbors countries. from radar. they'll have data from

satellites all fed into them that we don't have sight to. we just contributed what little bit we have which is the handshake things between the satellite and aircraft that enabled us to know the aircraft was in the air for a number of hours after it was lost. at inmarsat, we don't take any sort of perverse desire to hold back data. we just don't have it. we're there and we're sharing what we have. and we really wish the searchers well with their successful eventual conclusion. >> so to be clear, you're saying that inmarsat has no data that it it hasn't made public for people to help with this search? >> that's absolutely correct. we've shared the data we have with the malaysian authorities. it's for the malaysian authorities to decide what they do with their data. we are a party to the investigation board. that's because on the aircraft, america say party to the investigation, the plane with the boeing and britain with the

engine of royce. >> but is there 234ig thanythin you've retleesd those parties that you haven't allowed be made public to the others? >> no. we've shared the investigation. i see they already have an interim report and they've urged that the aircraft should be tracked. i think they're working today and tomorrow on this. and i know they will be looking very actively to see how best to ensure that commercial airliners going forward are tracked. we're happy to play a part on that. >> mr. mclaughlin, good look going forward. >> thank you. to you to that cnn exclusive this morning. donald sterling speaking out for the first time and offering a mea culpa with the carve vee yet. in his own words, leaving him bewildered and he's not a

racism. still, he says, he was baited into making those remarks. sterling sat down with anderson cooper. here's a look. >> i'm not a racist. i've made a terrible, terrible mistake. and i'm here with you today to apologize and to ask for forgiveness for all the people that i've hurt. and i've hurt so many people. so many innocent people. and i've hurt myself. you know, i spoke to a girl that i was fond of when i listen to that tape, i don't even know how i could say words like that. and i'm owe sorry. and i'm so apologetic. >> what are you sorry about? >> well i'm sorry that so many people are hurt. i never dreamt that this could happen. it's a terrible, terrible nightmare. my players, they didn't need this -- they didn't need this cloud over their head.

and they're good people and i love them and i respect them and i will always be there for them. then to hear that i'm a possible racism is so painful to me. i'm not a racist. i've never been a racism. >> when you saw the takeoff of their jerseys reversed and the name clippers weren't on, what did you see? >> i really didn't pay attention. they are clippers in their mind and i'm theirs. that's how i feel. i would do anything for them. i made a mistake. i hope it's in their heart to forgive me for that mistake. i don't know why the girl would have me say those things. >> you are saying you were set up? >> yes, i was baited. that's not the way i talk. i don't talk about people, ever. i talk about ideas and other things but i don't talk about people. >> do you know how the tape got released? >> no. >> do you think she did it? >> i don't know, i mean -- an

80-year-old man is kind of foolish. and i'm kind of foolish. i thought she likeded me and really cared for me. i get being 51 years older than her, i was deluding myself. >> do you trust her now? >> no, i don't trust her. i just wish i could ask her why. and if she was just setting me up -- i think that people say she was taping me for two years. so maybe i was just fooling myself thinking for two years that she cared for me. she certainly acted like it. >> the question is, is he fooling himself that that will sound like an apology to the people who need to hear one. let's get in deeper with greg anthony, cnn correspondent and turner sports analyst. and mr. jeffrey toobin, cnn analyst. greg anthony, he was set up by this woman he thought liked him. that's it. he never said anything like this and he's not a racist.

do you believe him and is it over now? >> well it's over ass to whether he's going to continue to own the team or his family. he's trying to win the court of public opinion and win the pr battle. and that probably wasn't as good a showing as he could have had in that interview. for the average person watching for him to make those comments, it's hard to be set up to make them. that's the other issue. you could say something off the cuff, but that was a pretty elongated conversation. it was pretty well thought of. and those were views that he held to heart. so that's the reality in that situation for him. i just think that was -- i don't want to say that it was disingenuous, but i will. >> could he have said anything -- what could he have

said that would have made you rethink your ideas about him? >> honestly, i don't know. and i'm one that's willing to forgive the man. because i do think -- listen, i don't think that racism -- i don't think it's inherent in you. or innate. but i think it's something that's taught. so i don't necessarily blame him for these stlus he has. he talked about being 80 years old. he been become this way two years ago. this is something that's been a part of his psyche and his fabric for many, many years. so i can understand that part of it and can be forgiving of that. but forgiveness does not necessarily equate to you keeping ownership of the l.a. clippers. so that's the reality we have to focus on. >> now, he says also in there, jeffrey toobin, i've made one mistake, can i be forgiven for one mistake? now, there are two issues there, right? there's seen as the first mistake? probably not, certainly from the league's perspective.

and does this change the analysis for them moving forward? >> not a bit. you know, adam silver, the brand-new commissioner of the nba has basically said this is what my commissionership is about. i'm staking my entire reputation on getting donald sterling out of the league. he has gotten so far, as far as we know, the nine top commissioners, the finance committee to agree with him. there is certainly nothing in this interview that's going to stop this train from moving forward. and the real issue is whether donald sterling is going to litigate, try to litigate, to prevent his being thrown out of the league. but i cannot imagine the league changing its position at all. based on this interview with anderson. >> and, frankly, he didn't do himself any favors. and anderson was giving him full opportunity to say what he wanted to say. interesting what we didn't hear, he is talking about that woman a

lot, no apologies to his wife. his wife is relevant for another reason. she says she's 50% owner, she spoke to abc news. >> mrs. sterling, you own 50% of the l.a. clippers. if it is that the team be sold what will you do then? >> then i'm fight for my 50%. >> well, there are reports that the nba wants to oust you completely as a team owner. you will fight that decision? >> i will fight that decision. >> now, do you think she has any cause with the nba? >> no, she has cause with donald sterling for 50% of asset. the nba, they don't care. she could have 70%. ultimately, they don't want to have any association with the sterling name in terms of the nba. again, this is more about the perception and the stain that's been left by these comments. and they were made public.

and so they put the league in a difficult situation. and also keep in mind, i was vice president of the players' association for many years. we are at a point in our league where we very much view ourselves as partners with the league. so it's also in the league's best interest with, you know, their partner, the players, to make sure that we kind of get this thing on the back shelf and resolve this issue in terms of moving on. and it also sends a strong message throughout the country for sports and in terms of how we're going to conduct ourselves. we can't make laws to change how people feel, chris. but we can have ramifications in place for those who espouse those views that don't necessarily coincide with how we feel as a society. >> jeffrey toobin if she says, i own 50%, keep me separate from your analysis of donald sterling, does that wash? >> i actually think that's a closer question.

pierce o'reilly we spoke on friday. he said she's definitely going to litigate. she did do not do anything wrong. she doesn't express any racist views but i also think the nba is going to throw out all the sterlings. but i also feel she can say you weren't penalize me for my husband. her problem is, they are still married. and if she's allowed to keep half the team, that in effect keeps donald sterling in some sort of involvement with the team. and i think they're going to force her out, too. but i think as a legal matter, she might have more of a claim to try to hold on to her part of the team. >> jeffrey, the other real frisch is a simple one, she's been married to him for 50 years. but she would also have to say i don't know this man for 50 years. i don't espouse the same views.

how can you get someone to believe that you've known someone for 50 years and yet, you had no idea how they were? that's a difficult one to get over. especially from the league standpoint, i haven't been here for 50 years, but i don't know that i've known for 20 or 30 years, i can't really say that i've known them as intimately as married to them. so that's going to be a tough rope to climb. >> it's going to be tough. but remember the context, too. she's going to say, look, he's romancing this woman. i didn't know he was having an affair. i think her position is considerably more simpympatheti than his.

i also think the nba gets to choose who are the owners. and we choose no more sterlings. if the players don't want to play for the sterlings, as they clearly don't, either sterling, they're going to be gone. you can't have an nba without the players. >> i think you summed it up when you said inadvertently when you said her big problem is she's still married to this man. for those following the 34iminu side of this, they never approve herd as an owner. >> thank you very much. we're going to have more of that interview and taking another shot at magic johnson. anderson cooper is going to joining us in the next hour. you ask watch that entire

interview tonight on "360" only on cnn. there's a new video from the militant group boko haram allegedly showing some of the 300 kidnapped school girls being converted to islam. the leader of the group says in the video that he's willing to exchange the schoolgirls for boko haram prisoners. this morning, a group from the united states is trying to help find the missing girls. let's discuss the new video. we're joined by james "spider" marks and former commander of the u.s. intelligence center and also cnn's national correspondent jim sciutto, both joining me from washington. good morning to both of you. let's put that video back on the screen as it's just coming into cnn. this is the newest video, and from journalists looking at this, seeing an estimated nearly 300 schoolgirls who were

kidnapped. spider, what can you take from this, what will you learn from this? what will intelligence officials and security analysts be looking at? >> well kate, the very first thing is if those are in fact the young girls that have been taken away. then this is proof of life that they're still alive and there's a possibility of a successful outcome. what that outcome looks like still to be determined. if in fact there are discussions about a transfer, the young girls going back, being released in exchange for prisoners, that is a nigerian decision that needs to be made. and in concert with the united states, certainly, the intelligence personnel, the military personnel that are on the ground in support of the nigerian government and its military will help sort through that. because they've got the intelligence on who these folks are. who the boko haram guys are. they've also begun to develop the intelligence on who these young ladies are. it's clearly important that you separate the young ladies and their families so there isn't

additional damage to be done. if you look at the if in fact there say prisoner exchange, but there's special forces on the ground that can help provide to help the nigerians through this tough spot. >> and, jim, how does this video play into what the u.s. is deciding, and how the u.s. is deciding to assist on the ground from what you're hearing from your sources? >> well, you look first thing, you look at this video and it reconfirms how shocking and pathetic this is. now you see the faces there, and you get a sense how brutal this organization is, it adds to that urgency which has been driving this. they've been abducted for almost a month now. as it has been spread with tthe #bringbackourgirls. as michelle obama and hillary clinton and others very photographed, other world leaders, now, you have the faces of these girls. the big challenges, one of the big challenges, how far national

help can go. at this point, the nigerians have been reluctant to accept international help. it hasn't moved to the stage where you actually have those countries going not the field to look for these girls. you know, that's one of the next decisions that this country has to make. and also countries like the u.s., what risks do they want to put their personnel in, american personnel. this is a dangerous country. these girls are spread out. most likely taken across borders. this would be a difficult operation, if indeed the nigerians ask for that kind of help. >> is it promising, though, at all, and i hate using that word when you look at this video, spider, that you see a large group of them still together in at least in this video? >> well, it is promising. they appear to be in pretty good shape. but it also tells you that the boko haram folks have been able to at least run -- they're running the risk by putting this

large concentration of young females together gives us an opportunity to do good intelligence collection. and isolate it. right now, i can guarantee you that's what's taking place. the key thing is, if we were able to do something about this intelligence. clearly, bear in mind, intelligence san active sport, you not only have intelligence but you have to ask the question fundamentally what are you going to do about it. as jim indicated if we intend to strike or we think there's a target, the intelligence is solid, we can minimize the damage, separate the combatants from the hostages that would be a good thing but we have to have the clearance and the cooperation of the nigerian government. and as jim suggests, we have to lower our expectations sadly in terms what we hope this outcome is going to look like. >> spider, jim, thank you so very much. we'll continue to talk about

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21 minutes past the hour. let's take a look at your headlines. we begin in ukraine. separatists in a major hot spot are already handling the results of sunday referendum. saying preliminary results so self-rule won in a landslide. in the meantime, a different

ukrainian city may hold yet another referendum, this time whether or not tour join russia. firefighters in texas say they have a wildfire there 75% contained. that fire started sunday. not clear how. it has already destroyed about 100 homes and has forced evacuations of hundreds of homes. 50-mile-an-hour wind gusts whipped that blaze into a frenzy. firefighters finally got a break when a cold front moved in and brought some moisture with it. there it is, of course, the washington monument. it is set to reopen today for the first time in nearly three years. you'll recall the landmark was shut after a 5.82 magnitude earthquake caused cracks in the stone. it cost $15 million to repair. i'd say it's well worth it. a after a formal ceremony, visitors will be able to take that in washington from 555 feet in the air. what a view. >> good to have it back. >> it is.

i was there a few weeks ago and i wish i could have -- >> climbed to the top? >> exactly. i'm handy. we have a troubling question, another mystery in the air, this question is what caused a hot air balloon to slam into power lines. you're looking at a picture of what actually happened. it burst into flames, crashed at a virginia festival, killing three aengs. >> it took the search party two days to find all three victims in a heavily wooded area just north of richmond, virginia. now, investigators will comb that same area trying to find pieces of the balloon that could help them under what happened here. >> reporter: hours before the ill-fated flight at a hot air balloon festival in dosswell, virginia. one with the erie question, we'll go up this evening.

#anxiety. >> we got a report that the basket has come off. >> reporter: the ntsb is investigating a crash that kill three people, one month after the agency issued a letter to the faa urging greater safety regulations meant to, quote, address operational deficiencies and sight-seeing balloon operations. >> during the investigation, we will examine the man, the machine and the environment. >> reporter: the balloon hit a power line friday night as it came into landing catching fire. then a small explosion separated the basket from the balloon. witnesses saw two people jump or fall. >> you could hear them screaming, please, dear god, sweet jesus, help us, we're going to die. >> reporter: daniel kirk, the man seen here in a recent video. had 30 years of flying appearance. a policeman said the pilot was seen doing safety maneuver.

>>ly was doing everything he could to extinguish the fire. >> reporter: his passengers, ginny doyle, associate head basketball coach at the university rich mon and natalie louis, her 24-year-old co-worker, both were alumni of the university which honored them sunday at a moment of silence during a commencement ceremony. we reached out to a spokesperson involved with the balloon festival said that the faa had inspectors doing checks on those balloons before they went up in the air. a spokesperson for the faa wouldn't speak about the details about this case but said that inspectors visit these air shows. we should know next week when they come out with the report. michaela. >> horrific, horrific accident. thanks for that report. we want to talk about severe weather that cranked out tornadoes in kansas and nebraska and over the weekend, hundreds of folks are having to clean up the damages to homes, farms and businesses. thankfully, no deaths or serious

injuries have been reported. let's get to indra to speak about the report. >> it's very easy to see when you look at the satellite from the weekend, we have this low that was so cold that it actually brought snow, it's still snowing in towards colorado. look at the storms it literally blew up as it got into yesterday afternoon. unfortunately, this is still the concern for today, we're talking about the threat of severe weather, from detroit, stretching all the way back from minneapolis all the way down to san antonio. what are looking at? still, the potential for storms and tornadoes throughout today. scattered showers out there as the system kind of progresses to the east. not really a big deal, maybe several inches maybe down around the gulf where you have that moisture, you'll see the heavier amounts. remember, we talked about that cold air. it's snowing in colorado. as you go throughout the day, in the middle of the country, you're going to talk about temperatures going down throughout the day.

look at the temperature change. 82 today, tomorrow, down to 52, guys. meanwhile, towards d.c., you're going back up to 91. about 20 degrees above normal. so the story is, it's literally all over the place. some people cold, some people raining, some people dry. >> in colorado that will be welcome, at long as it's in the mountains. >> that's insane. >> more proof of why wherever you go, everybody talks about the weather. as the first topic of conversation. >> especially with me. >> it's all because of you, by the way. up canning up on "new day" -- donald sterling says he cannot believe what he said. listen for yourself and decide if the apology cuts it. and what he has to say about magic johnson will make your eyebrows lift. coming up on "inside politics" we'll hear what vice president joe biden said about

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welcome back to "new day." it is time for "inside politics" on "new day." with a man known as john king.

>> happy monday. >> happy monday to you, handsome. >> happy monday to you, kate, your pacers kills, there you go. with "inside politics," molly ball of the atlantic. and let's start with "the new york times," marco rubio, listen to him talking to abc's jonathan karl talking about if i run four president, one thing i will not do is also seek re-election for senate. >> i believe if you run for president. if you don't run for president with an eject butten in the cockpit that allows you in the ramp if it doesn't work out. >> a bit of a shot at senator rand paul who is trying to get past kentucky that allows him to seek the nomination if you run for re-election. does that matter? >> yeah. i think it's a sign that he's getting in the fray here. this proxy war -- not a proxy

war, but the battle is heating up there. there's no doubt who he was talking about there. everybody knows about that the situation in kentucky. he says, look, if i do this, i'm all in. >> it's courage, rand, right? if you're going to run. >> rubio is probably out, he's probably not going to be a u.s. senator regardless of what happens. people see presidency, that see v.p. but they also see the possibility that he does not run for re-election and he comes back down the road to run for president after making some money. he has young kids. it wouldn't be the worst thing in the world if '16 doesn't work out that he'll come back. >> he also said i do not believe that human activity is causing these dramatic changes the way the scientists are portraying. it that helps him with the republican base, molly? >> well, the situation is

different on climb change. it depends on ho you you ask the question. is this not something that rubio has said before. he's taken this position before. and of course, he's going to be mocked as some denier who doesn't believe the scientists. regardless of his words, that's what he's saying, i don't believe what the scientists are saying but as you say, is this where the majority of the republican base is on this issue. >> also, the business community, yesterday. they're saying yesterday how can he be for ingration reform but also saying that climate change isn't real? because one of them is important in the business community. and the other, it doesn't really matter very much. this is not a voting issue. certainly, it's not for the republican primary. and for a lot of folks, it's not even on the general. >>, he marco rubio saying she deserves an "f" as secretary of state. >> i'm sure she's going to go on bragging about her time in the state department. sheels also going to be held accountable for its failures.

whether the fail reed set in russia or the benghazi which cost lives. you look at the diplomacy pursuant in her time in the state department, it has failed everywhere in the world. here's what i sfashgs he's going to run on her record as secretary of state, she's also going to have to answer for its massive failure. >> pretty direct there head on. >> well, rubio has been trying to carve out this place for himself in the potential republican primary field as the foreign policy expert. and that does obviously give him an opening against hillary who has had trouble defining her legacy as secretary of state. and will have to answer that in a way that she hasn't yet when and if she gets in. and you see rand paul has also taken a lot of direct shots at hillary to position himself as the best potential getter for her. but rubio is coming from a very different place on foreign policy and trying to make the case from a hawkish point of view. >> more mccainesque. >> absolutely. one of the reasons that rube yes

has had a resurgence, jonathan, they think of him as rand paul's son, libertarian. >> and what rand paul would say, he actually has space between his views on foreign policy and hillary clinton on the left on foreign policies. whereas, if rubio are at least on policy with that. friday night, speaking to republicans, rubio said that hillary would represent going back to the past a not so veiled reference to her age, marco rubio turns 43 this month. you're seeing the beginning of generational play. >> we're going to be take you what we love to do "inside politics," behind closed-doors. this is joe biden speaking at a democratic event. joe biden is talking at a closed-door fund-raiser, and he says that this middle class divide, the economic issues, the wage gap did not begin in the

george bush years bus in later years of the clinton administration. >> it's funny, this is a case that senator barack obama made against hillary clinton back in '08. had you the case, we all remember the '90s as peace and prosperity. they actually weren't so great. this sort of economic unrampling began. biden in public settings makes the same sort of argument for like the blue color economic populist strain. but it did give him a potential opening as he sees it, i think. the problem for him, it's a hard case to make when he's been part of the obama administration. and that's the economic record that he's going to have to fight. >> but he's in south carolina in there for that speech. people seem 0 get the feeling from him he's trying to tell them he's going to run even if she does. >> the news about joe biden, he goes to the local chamber of

commerce event here in d.c. stopped by jim clyburn's book party, giving a speech, raises money for the democratic party, all the stuff that hillary clinton is not doing right now, joe biden is doing. is he doing it because he's going to run? or is he doing it because he wants to be positioned in case she doesn't run. >> help me with, my lady and gentleman, a new cnn poll, this is a message to republicans who say we're toeing to repeal. leave it alone, 12%. make some changes, 49%. 61% of americans say leave it alone or amend it. not what you see there, 18% saying repeal and replace. 20% say fully repeal. however, molly, even though democrats say uh-huh, only 21% see it as success? >> yeah, not a lot of people are with the republican position that we need to get rid of it entirely. it's still the case that voters

don't like the law and they're mad at people. who they're mad at is democrats. they want to hold someone accountable. even if democrats are looking at polls like this. >> here's what explains both of those numbers. you see a rising number of people who say it has no impact on me which is to say, they don't see it as some smashing success but it's not adversely impacted third life. people are saying at the same time don't repeal it. democrats have a decision to make, whether to join this select committee on benghazi. a leading member of the democratic leadership and the house saying, we're not sure we think the republicans are being partisan here. >> we've always said we're ready to participate. we have oversight ability in congress. what we don't want to see is reckless use of taxpayer money to do these witch hunts.

>> nancy pelosi the democratic leader wants a one-on-one meeting with the speaker john boehner. that's all the time we have this morning. molly, thanks for coming in. kate, chris, mac cale ichaela, you in north. do you think they boycott and or they have the stakes themselves? >> i say, and i don't have a say on it at all. you cannot win the game if you're not on the court, on the field, you pick the sports metaphor. >> i don't think it's an option. i think it's silly talk. i think pelosi and boehner need to do that thing where you stand behind each other and -- >> the success exercise. >> yes. donald sterling says he's sorry, but says he was also baited into making those racist remarks. will his apology convince the

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to a lifetime band from the nba. he admits he was wrong but also believes he should be allowed another chance. let's discuss, sean gregory is here, senior writer for "time" magazine covering sports. and malik rose, comcast sports, but also a two-time nba champion. hello, to both of. you malik, you've heard the interview. you've heard portions of it. the full interview will air on anderson cooper tonight. we've been waiting to hear from this man. we've been waiting to hear if he will apologize and what he will say. we've now heard it, does this change anything? >> actually, it doesn't, what it does, it kind of make what is he said initially even worse. this was built up to be an paul jeez. he's coming out saying he's sorry, once you hear the interview, you hear everything except that.

the guy is spewing the same venom as he had before. this is just another step in the p.r. ploy by the sterlings. >> sean, does it change anything in the nba's position? >> not really. the one thing he said that was kind of unbelievable, i don't believe she made me say this. it's like nobody made you say anything. it's like a fifth grade excuse. it makes him look worse in a way. he's trying, it's one mistake, that's fine. but the whole, she made me do it, to me, that's ridiculous. >> is it possible, malik, he could be doing himself more harm than good? can he harm himself anymore, we begin to wonder. >> i think he has. sean hit it on the head, it's not an apology, it's just something that makes it sound worse. he didn't even apologize to magic johnson, in fact, he exacerbated the situation by pointing the finger at magic johnson saying he's the one that

hasn't done anything for the minority communities when in fact, magic has employed people in the minority communities. opened up a multitude of businesses in minority businesses and stood at the right hand of president reagan and led the charge to educate americans about the virus that's december sim mating minorities today. that apology is shocking. >> let's remind viewers what donald sterling said about magic johnson. listen to this. >> what am i going to say? has he done everything he can do to help minorities? i don't think so. but i'll say it. i'll say it, you know, he's great. >> but what is he trying to get at ask. >> he's saying that he's not a good role model for young people. to say he's not a good role model for young people in los angeles, he's saying two different things in the same conversation. he doesn't seem competent.

he's contradicting himself. the nba is looking at it as we can't have this man owning one of our franchises. it's a total irrational reaction. >> go ahead, malik. >> if you hear him tonight on anderson's show, he insinuated that magic could be the person who leaked the videos, he and v. stiviano. and went on to say that magic johnson didn't do anything for the minority black communities. i went through a list of things that he has done. maybe if magic had paid the local chapter of the naacp for the lifetime achievement awards maybe that would be something in the mind of donald sterling. >> we know he would like to keep the team. we know we would like to be welcomed back. what is he going for here, though? i don't see any gain in taking on magic johnson in this interview. >> it's the worst p.r. move you can ever make, of all players to go after in the nba.

not just magic johnson -- but you don't go after magic johnson, when you're trying to keep your team in los angeles. it's beyond bizarre to me. >> also, shelly sterling speaking out to barbara walters. in that interview, she says she believes donald sterling is suffering from the early onset of dementia, while that is, of course, extremely sad. what does that change in this scenario? >> well, if it's true, of course, it's sad. you know, we'll have sympathy for him i guess there. i have a grandmother that's in her early stages of dementia. it's a sad, sad situation. but i don't think that is the situation here. this is my personal opinion. >> yeah. >> and, again, if it's true, again, it's sad. but i think it's just another step in the p.r. ploy by the sterlings to slow the sale. or, you know, thwart the sale of the efforts of the nba to make them force to sell their team. as well as gain public sympathy from, you know, people that heard the tape.

>> that is interesting because she keeps trying to distance herself in anything she says through her attorney or this interview, distance herself from donald sterling. but many people are wondering with all of this timing are they actually working together which we won't know. malik rose, sean, great to see you. thanks, guys. a reminder, anderson cooper will be joining us at the top of the hour with much more of the sterling interview. . coming up on "new day," lord, show us a sign. and then a huge boulder rolls out of control and comes within inches of destroying a church. it all happens on camera. we'll speak with the pastor of that church as he explain it is reason in his mind for this close call.

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welcome back to "new day." is it a case of divine intervention or pure coincidence. take ooh look and you be the judge. watch as an enormous boulder comes just inches from smashing onto a massachusetts church. that bolder was set loose at a nearby construction project. joining us is the pastor of that church, pastor rick le claire. pastor, good morning to you. quite a friday you guys had. >> good morning. thanks for having me. >> first of all, this construction project is going on next door to your church, grace

ministries. what happened to set this boulder loose? >> well, the boulder was part of a blast that was taking place to widen the driveway. if you see the video, you can almost envision that boulder being almost shot out of a gun. it wasn't just a rock that rolled. it was part of a blast that was controlled with 10,000-pound blasting mats, probably about 15 of them in place. the video more or less speaks for itself. >> it really does. it's just inches from the building. your son shot the video? why were you shooting video? was it because you were watching the construction project going on. >> we knew the blast was about to take place. they sound a horn and they sound like three horns, then five minutes later they sound two and then the explosion takes place a

minute later. we were all expecting it and looking forward to it. the interesting thing is that boulder was so heavy that, if it ever went through the wall of the church, and it had so much momentum, it was moving so fast. in order for it to stop, it had -- from my perspective, it had to have been divine -- i could just picture the angel's hand just reaching over and saying that's far enough. >> not this church. this is the other thing i want to point out. your church happens to serve thousands of people from your food bank, and that work would have been destroyed and stopped. maybe there was some divine intervention keeping that rock from rolling. >> can you imagine trying to get a 20-ton rock out of the basement of your church? it would have ended up in the basement. when it went through the wall, it would have went through the floor. >> did you incorporate the rock

into your sermon on sunday? >> how did you know that? >> i felt like you might have. pastor rick le claire, thanks for joining us and shares this extraordinary moment. tell your son he might have a future in filmography or camera work. >> thank you. >> chris, kate, my goodness. not even a foot away. >> whatever it means, it was good fortune and certainly something for the pastor to talk about with his congregation, that's for sure. coming up on "new day," another interview you will only see here on cnn, donald sterling. he says he's sorry. he also claims he was set up. wait until you hear the choice words he has for magic johnson. anderson cooper, the man that landed the interview, here to discuss his exclusive next. he gets a ready for you alert the second his room is ready. -- captions by vitac --

good morning. it's monday, may 12th, 8:00 in the east. the owner of the l.a. clippers says he's sorry but it isn't all his fault. donald sterling sat down only with cnn, specifically anderson cooper to discussion the racist

comments that got him banned from the nba. he says he can't believe he said it and his only explanation really is the woman who recorded those comments made him do it. >> anderson is here and will talk about the sit-down in just a moment. first, here is some of what sterling had to say, including another controversial swipe at magic johnson. >> i'm a good member who made a mistake, and i'm apologizing and i'm asking for forgiveness. am i entitled to one mistake after 35 years? i love my league, my partners. am i entitled to one mistake? it's a terrible mistake and i'll never do it again. >> the vice president of the nba players association, roger mason, he said the players won't accept anyone in the sterling family owning the clippers, not you, not your wife, not your son-in-law, not your daughter. do you believe it? >> i really don't know. the people that will decide my fate i think are not the media

and not the players union, but the nba. >> the owners? >> the owners. if the owners feel i deserve another chance, then they'll give it to me. >> but there is a path for you to fight their decision, isn't there? >> of course. but if you fight with my partners, what the end of the road, what do i benefit, especially at my age? if they fight with me and they spend millions and i spend millions, let's say i win or they win, i just don't know if that's important. >> why wait so long to apologize? it's been a couple of weeks. >> that's a very good question. i'm so emotionally distraught. and the reason it's hard for me, very hard for me is that i'm

wrong. i caused the problem. i don't know how to correct it. >> do you trust people? there have been a couple of phone recordings in the past week or two or people you've talked to on the phone or who seem to be your voice and who sold it to radaronline or tmz. do you have anyone you trust around you? >> the only one that i know that i talked to is magic johnson. >> you have talked to him? >> twice. >> did you apologize? >> he knew the girl. he said -- he knew the girl well. >> did you apologize to him? >> if i said anything wrong, i'm sorry. he's a good person and he -- what am i going to say? has he done everything he can do to help minorities? i don't think so.

but i'll say it, he's great. i just don't think he is a good example for the children of los angeles. >> wow. let's bring in anderson cooper, and we have greg anthony who will join us in a little bit, also. anderson, people will want to know, do you believe he's fully aware of what he's saying? these are his words. it's not what his wife is talking about, like early onset dementia. what was your take? >> he's fully aware of what he was saying. i don't know him obviously as well as shelly sterling does. he seems totally competent. you can have conversations with him. he makes complete sense. do things ramble sometimes? sure, but as they do in any conversation. i didn't notice anything that would indicate -- nothing that made me give pause to having

this interview with him to putting him on the air certainly. >> one of the many surprising things in this interview is what he says about magic johnson. i know you followed up about what he's said and why he's saying it. what does he seek to gain by taking on magic johnson in this interview? >> he has a lot more to say about magic johnson. i will say that, a lot more to say. that caught me by surprise. he said that he had had two conversations with magic johnson. i think he feels magic wanted to buy the team or had an interest in buying the team which is publicly known. i think he -- there is some resentment there for that. the reason i initially brought up magic johnson was obviously because donald sterling brought him up in the first tape. i hadn't realized that according to him they had had the

conversations, and i think what he says is the content of those conversations led him to kind of have a negative impression. >> it sur priprised me, anderso and wonder if it did you, he seems sort of shocked that people would think -- he thinks he's misunderstood. >> he does. look, he is -- he says repeatedly how apologetic he is. that was a huge thrust obviously of this interview. that's clearly something he wanted to get across. he says he's not making excuses for himself, that he blames himself. he said these things, they were stupid things to say. he claims that they are not things that he would normally say, they're not things he said in the past. obviously this is a guy who does have a track record. we talked a lot about it, the lawsuit elgin baylor filed against him, some of the claims that elgin baylor made in the lawsuit, the plantation

mentality are echoed in the conversation with v. stiviano. he certainly things he was goaded by v. steve an knoiviano. i met them together a week ago. they were in the same room together. he said that was the last time they had seen each other. he clearly feels she was not there -- i think he clearly feels she had some involvement in getting out this tape. >> just a huge qualifier on the apology, also. let's bring in greg anthony, former nba great, turner sports analyst. when you say you're sorry, you already have deep water to travel because of the kinds of things he says. then to say you're baited into it, does it completely erase the value? >> it does in this case. first and foremost, it's hard to apologize for what's going to be perceived to be what you feel in your heart. a lot of people are going to look at this and being

disingenuo disingenuous, in part because he's only apologizing because most people feel he has to. i think, also, fascinating, watching the interpret of a little bit of the interview. you can also tell he's not a person that's really comfortable with the media. he talked about that in your interview where he said i don't give interviews. i think that came across, that's why his comment about the apology and the swipe at magic -- >> how about the swipe at magic. obviously intrigue going on in donald sterling's mind about magic. what's your sense, anderson, about how many different roads lead to magic johnson in his life? >> i'm not quite clear on exactly what his beef is. i know what he will say tonight and tomorrow i can guarantee people are going to be talking a lot more about what he says about magic johnson. >> to say the very least. >> where do you think shelly sterling plays into this? she speaks with barbara walters.

she says she believes he's suffering from early onset of dementia, also says she's been trying to divorce him, working to divorce him for 20 years. >> he refers to her as his ex-wife. >> he does? >> yes. >> they're still married. but he acknowledges they're going to get divorced. >> what role does she play in this? >> that's a fascinating one. i'm not really sure. i think her angle to some extent is she wants to have ownership of the team. >> at the expense of him to get it? >> she's not recognized as an owner. >> no, she's not. that's going to be a big sticking point moving forward. >> it's a trust that owns the team, she's in, two of his kids are in. it's a family owned trust. there are sticky issues about kind of what's -- if they end up in divorce court and their property is separated, she could

get 50% of the value of that. >> that's what's important. we loose sight -- remember, this is a franchise. as is the case with any kind of franchise, there are certain guidelines and bylaws you have to adhere to. it has nothing to do with it. the reality, because of the public perception, because this has been a pr nightmare for the sterlings, the clippers and our league, there's no way that's going to happen. we're also in an era where the players are partners with the league. i was vice president of our players association as well. we worked hard to create that kind of environment. adam silver has done a terrific job bolstering that. they're not going to do anything from an owners' standpoint that will tick off the players. >> to that end, anderson, did you talk about the players as individuals? he keeps saying i love these people, i love these men. were you able to get anything out of him about that?

>> yes, we talked for an hour, 1:20 or so. we covered pretty much everything. look, this is a very smart guy in a lot of ways who has a track record of going up against the nba and getting his way. he brought the team from san diego to los angeles as i understand against the wishes of the nba. he was sued by the nba before, he countersued, a deal was struck. i think he feels -- we heard him say it's up to the owners to decide my fate. i think he still believes he has a hand in his fate. >> do you think he did himself more harm than good in the interview? >> i think it's important for him -- i'm very up front with anyone i interview, i think it's important for him to get his voice out there, to have v. stiviano representing you in the public sphere is not what i would recommend for anybody, or to have people who are selling tapes to tmz and radaronline be

the people who are giving your voice to the public? what i said to him is, look, i think you need 20 sit down and just speak from your heart and tell us what you feel. >> isn't it odd that no one has come to his defense in terms of his character? no one of color, no women, no other religious backgrounds, no one has come out and defended his character. i find that to be a little odd as well in terms of someone trying to make the case that he's not a racist. isn't that a bit ironic that no one stood up and said -- >> i will say i was surprised there wasn't more people around him. oftentimes we go to situations, there's a media team, there's lawyers. >> he said won't i be forgiven this one mistake. i think what we're seeing is the straw on the camel's back

metaphor than it is this first flash point of behavior. >> i think the reason this has become such a big thing is it certainly -- if this was the first time anybody at heard this or thought this of donald sterling, that would be one thing. the elgin baylor lawsuit, we talked about plantation mentality. i talked to him about that, and the housing discrimination lawsuits which were settled which he never admitted any guilt to. >> i think this is a great conversation because it's about so much more than donald sterling. yes, he's an interesting character. no question. gives a lot of satisfaction that you brought this to us. >> finally hearing his voice. >> it will be important. this is a culture flash point moment that we're going through right now. this is something that happens a lot, gets dealt with very rarely in any real way. we're seeing it play out in realtime. you brought us the main voice at the center of it. thank you very much to you,

anderson cooper. and the best news, this is only the beginning. they spoke for over an hour and 20 minutes. there's so much in here for you to unpack if you care about the situation. please tonight watch anderson's full exclusive interview with that man, donald sterling, 8:00 p.m. on "ac 360." coming up next on "new day," we're learning of new video of the kidnapped nigerian school girls as cnn hears from one of the girls who managed to escape the kidnapping. we'll talk with cnn's correspondent about how dangerous it was just getting there to speak to her to make sure the world can hear her story.

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welcome back to "new day." we're following breaking news. new video from the militant group boka haram reportedly showing dozens of the kidnapped nigerian school girls converting to islam. the leader of the group says in the video he's willing to exchange those school girls for boka haram prisoners. this comes amid a cnn exclusive interview with one of the young girls who managed to escape. cnn's nama albager traveled for four days through dangerous back roads where just a day before gunfire was exchanged between police and the terror group. she's the first international reporter to reach the town where those girls were kidnapped. she's in ab abuja to tell us what she knows. >> what we took away from the

trip, it was a tough one, i'm not going to lie, is how difficult it was. it was tough, tough terrain, extraordinarily insecure. the people who were supposed to be guarding us, the police, the military who were supposed to be escorting us, even they didn't want to go, which only gives you a sense of what it must be like for the people on the ground, if they're unwilling to go into that boka haram heartland. they are still very much living with the terror of that night, michaela. take a listen. >> reporter: this is a road few are now willing to travel. attacks by the islamic militant group boka haram are pref rent hear. what happened put the world on notice. armed when in what they describe as military uniforms came to their dormitory gate and told them they had come to protect

them t. girls started to assemble in the yard as ordered to, didn't realize who the men really were until it was too late. this girl managed to escape. she's now too fearful to show her face, too fearful to go back. >> reporter: big lorry. >> yes. >> >> reporter: was it one or more? >> seven. >> reporter: trucks, motor bikes. residents here tell us this raid was effectively a shopping trip for boka haram. over 200 girls dragged from their beds to be sold off as bounty, a message that the militant groups edicts on female education must be heeded, but a way to make money off terrified girls. >> if it's in chibok, i'll never

go back again. >> because they made you afraid? >> yes. >> reporter: before they left, they destroyed everything they could, textbooks, the library, the laboratory, their attempt to forever shutter this school. elizabeth mary of france, members of the same church, their daughters were also friends, hoping one day to study medicine. they and many of their classmates never made it home from school. >> we are pleading with them to release our daughters. we don't have power to do anything that requires power. >> reporter: they say they still feel powerless, no closer to finding their daughters nearly a month after they were taken. the details that we heard were extraordinarily chilling. it sounded like this convoy, seven lorries, pickup trucks, motorcycle riders, to round up any girls that pick up girls that crossed country, openly,

brazenly. >> you can hear the fear in her voice, nima, this video that we believe is from boka haram saying they have these girls, it looks like there's a group of 100 or more of them, what are we able to learn or is there anything we're able to learn from that new video? >> reporter: again, it speaks to the comfort of boka haram in this territory. you can see these girls are not herded away under ground shlths not hidden away. they're somewhere outdoors openly. and they're together. a lot of people were speculating, a lot of nigerian intelligence was speculating there was no way boka haram could pull this off, they would have to break the girls up into little girls. there are over 100 girls in that picture. i can't even imagine what they're going through. even speaking to the girl we spoke to when she describes being herded like cattle onto that lorry and being forcibly

converted, forced to recite the ve verses. it's just unthinkable for their families. we know family members are watching that video very closely, michaela, hoping their daughters will show up. >> nima, this was a difficult story for you to get to, you, your producer and cameraman faced very dangerous conditions going in to get the story. you said some of the security guys didn't want to go in there with you. >> reporter: security guards, drivers, military police, nobody wants to go into that epicenter. i think that's why people there feel so abandoned. for those of us outside of this, you see all these pledges of support from the u.s., the uk, the u.n., you think something must have been being done and you get there under this specter

that any moment in that fixed scrub, the savannah that surrounds those dirt tracts, you don't know who is out there. that's all of us on the team really felt it was important to go. until we got there, you wouldn't believe that so little help is reaching these people, so little is being done. >> you've been doing so much to bring faces and voices to this story for us, nima, you and your crew have all put your lives in danger by telling this story. we appreciate the reporting. thank you so much. chris, kate? coming up on "new day," the donald sterling exclusive. he says he's sorry. he says he won't fight losing the team, kind of. but is talk cheap? we're going to ask legal experts we're going to ask legal experts what will really happen next. this is for real this time. step seven point two one two. verify and lock. command is locked.

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clippers owner donald sterling says he and his team are family. >> they are clippers in their mind and i'm theirs. that's how i feel. i would do anything for them. i made a mistake. i hope it's in their heart to forgive me for that mistake. i don't know why the girl had me say those things. >> you're saying you were set up. >> i was baited. that's not the way i talk.

>> i was baited. it's not the way i talk. laying the blame for the racist remarks on the woman who recorded them, v. stiviano. what does this all mean for what's going to happen with the team. let's bring in david cornwell and mr. jeffrey toobin. for the purposes of this situation, please jeffrey toobin represent the league. you, mr. cornwell, you represent mr. sterling. we just heard from your client, mr. cornwell, he comes forward and says i was baited, i didn't really mean this. even if we give him the benefit of truth, for everything he said, what's your best case for why he gets to keep the team. >> first i wouldn't take this case on contingency because it's day argument to make. under article 13 of the nba bylaws, there's no provision that speaks to this. if they say he failed to refuse

to abide by a contractual obligation which is likely the provision upon which the owners are going to rely, we would take the position that they miss interpreted that. he didn't violate any contractual obligations in a private conversation with a young lady where there was no duty being owed to any third parties, in particular, a member of the association. more importantly i would take the position that he had a legitimate privacy interest that this comment would not be made public and that she violated california law by doing so and that the violation of the law cannot end in such an egregious result for my client, donald sterling. >> a little taste of equity of horrors, a forfeiture coming from mr. cromwell if my law studies served me well. what would you say on behalf of the league? >> you're asking me, chris?

>> yes, you represent the league, toobin. come on. >> sorry. got to get to work here. the answer is the nba is an association. they have to -- they have the right and the obligation to control who is a member and they have a wide variety of tools including a morals clause, including the article 13, and most importantly, it is quite clear that as a result of the publication of these comments the players will not play for donald sterling, and the nba is not going to force players to play for an owner they will not play for. thus, he has to sell the team. >> let's deal with this one point. i want to get to shelly, his wife. the fact that the players won't play for this. certainly doc rivers seems very upset but he hasn't stopped cashing his paycheck. neither have any of the other

players. what's your best counterargument of we have to kick you out, no one will play for you. >> i'm a players' advocate, so this is a hard argument for me to make. the argument would be they're under contract, they have an obligation to fulfill the contractual duties to the clippers and that's really the end of the story. they're under contract and there's nothing else they can do. i would expect we would see more than just clipper players protesting, so it will be a pretty hard road to hoe for the sterlgs. >> they're all playing and taking their paycheck. everyone wants a spot in the league. everyone says this man has been a known commodity for all these years. do you think that's the best the nba can do, we don't think people like you? >> the only reason they're playing is that the nba has started the process of divesting the sterling family from this franchise. remember, it was not clear at all that they were going to even play the first play-off game when the nba had not announced

its position. once adam silver took the for forceful action he did, it was only because of that that the players agreed to play. if the nba were suddenly to say, well, we feel bad for donald sterling because he was set up by this crazy woman, all bets would be off. the nba is moving forward. there's no doubt they are going to try to remove him from ownership. and the only question is whether the courts will stop him. >> last point. mr. cornwell, do you believe the wife or estranged wife or the ex-wife as donald sterling says, shelly, she says i own 50%. kick him out but keep me. what's the best case for that? >> i think she has a losing argument all around. there's a controlling owner of the clippers and that's donald sterling. when the nba owners take an action against him, they'll be taking an action against all owners. her 50% interest will be addressed in the proceeds from the sale of the team. she'll get her 50% of the sales

price. but other than that, she has no basis to claim she has a right to remain in the league. that's particularly under the constitution and bylaws. i think it's article 43 that says there is no third party beneficiaries. she doesn't even have a cause of action once you look at the constitution and bylaws. >> the big issue for her is she was never even approved as an owner. even if she were to use the trust to say she was part of the organization, the nba would get an opportunity to object to her outright. thank you, gentlemen. obviously what we're playing off is this big exclusive interview that anderson cooper got with donald sterling. you'll get a taste of it this morning, but the real thing to watch is tonight, "ac 360," 8:00 p.m., only on cnn.

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welcome back. a critical meeting today to make tracking planes a priority after the disappearance of flight 370. the global satellite service, inmar sat, has announced it will offer new technology for free flight tracking that could be used on virtually all commercial planes. this as new doubts have surfaced

about some of the pings believed to be from the plane's flight data recorders. joining us to discuss, miles o'brien, cnn aviation analyst and pbs safety correspondent and david soucie, former faa inspector and author of "why planes crash." important stuff we need to chew through that has come out today. let's talk first about the comments coming from the captain of the ocean shield, david soucie, saying they now have doubts about some of the pings that have been the focus of the search on the ocean floor. how do you think they reached that conclusion, first off? >> well, first of all, what they did was go back and look at the frequency. the frequency of the second two pings they received on april 8 were actually 27 kilohertz which is ten kilohertz less than what the pings are manufactured to produce. they are in question, they were in question at the beginning. i think that's why they started with the second ping which they

got on april 5th with their search up north there. >> miles, if this is the case, if these pings are not from the black box, they'll focus on the first two pings, how does that impact the search? >> kate, i think some of this discussion is angels on the head of a pin. they have to rule out this area if nothing else. this is the only thing they have to go on. these are the only pings they've heard. it matches some other evidence which was derive friday the inmar sat communications, the so-called handshakes. i think they must continue searching there, if nothing else to say this isn't the place, because frankly, where else are they going to go? >> that's a good point. miles, what you're saying is when you see these comments coming from the captain, you're not seeing this as an admission of this search has been going -- been in the wrong place so far? this is just further research, further consultation to investigate what where it could be and where it isn't. >> well, it might be a house of

cards, but this is all they have in the way of any sort of evidence. maybe it is a red herring. what are they going to do? they're not going to weigh anchor, shove off and go somewhere else. they'll do the search in this area and maybe, just maybe these pings were the right ping and this will be a big break in the story. in the meantime, i can't imagine them abandoning this site given the information we have. it is contradictory, it does seem flimsy, but they are pings. >> so that search will continue, ocean shield heading back to the search area and we'll return to that effort as soon as possible. and at the very same time, you have folks looking forward. how do we avoid this from happening again? david, inmar sat coming out to now offer free flight tracking service. did that surprise you? >> it does a little bit. it depends on how they plan to implement it though. if what they're using is this new found math that they talk about with the doppler radar and

the fact that nothing is necessary on the aircraft to modify, to increase this ability to track, then that's fine, it is free. i suspect it's more than that. i think it has more to do with the communication between the aircraft which again is still reliant on the transponder, still reliant on the flight management system and the data being sent from the aircraft. in this case because all those things were off, it would have helped but wouldn't have changed the scenario. >> miles, what do you think? what inmar sat is offering now, which is already something offered in the maritime distress service, so we know it can work, would it have changed the scenario of what we're dealing with with flight 370? >> absolutely. it would be night and day. we'd know exactly where that aircraft was. i think it's great that inmar sat is offering this. why didn't this happen after air france 447? why didn't it happen before that? it's a simple thing to at latitude and longitude and maybe airspeed and heading to this

little communication which goes back and forth between the inmar sat satellite and the aircraft passively. the fact that this is happening only now, if you really think about it, is pretty extraordinary. the fact that we didn't have this information. as far as getting that information in this so-called basic handshake, all they have to do is tap into the information which is fed into the black boxes which gives the latitude and longitude, airspeed and heading. throw that into the handshake and we would not even be having this discussion right now. it should have happened long ago. >> which, of course, raises the question, if it didn't happen after air france when many people were calling for better technology so this wouldn't happen again back then, you do wonder what will stand in the way this time around? will the airlines get on board even if it does mean additional cost for them? that's the conversation that must continue and we need to keep drawing attention to it. david soucie, miles o'brien, thanks, guys. chris? coming up on "new day,"

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it follows a host who tows the party line. joining us is michael smerconish. this is your "new day" debut, my friend. welcome. it's nice to be here. thank you. >> we've been talking about it on the program, hillary clinton releasing an excerpt of her upcoming book in vogue magazine really talking about the influence her mother had in her life obviously in time for moth ever's day. what else do you read into it, michael oovps? >> i think what she's trying to do is maintain her status as the presumptive front-runner without a formal declaration. the moment she formally declares, all those rules changes, the negatives go much, much higher. the republican targeting of her becomes much more blatant. so it's very well orchestrated, and there's no advantage for her to declare prematurely. >> i don't get it.

we all know that's what's going on. i don't understand why the rules don't change when we all seem to be participating in the same ruse here, smerconish. what's going on? why are we playing this game? >> the republicans aren't playing this game. all the benghazi talk last week, the talk that's about to unfold when congress gets back in session is going to be a continuation of the gop saying we're not ready. i think in the media world, she doesn't get treated as a candida candidate. if we were advising her, this is what we would be telling you to do, delay, delay, delay, the treatment gets rougher once you get in. >> let's talk about your book, smerconish, "talk," the rise of a radio talk show host. why write a nol? why not write non-fiction? >> i thought non-fiction would be boring. i wanted the languages to be

rough. it's not exactly "fifty shades of talk radio," but it is a balmy read. it has a serious message about how the polarized media in this country is driving us right into a ditch. i thought, as i began to write it four years ago, that if i wrote it as non-fiction. it would not get the attention it would get as a novel. i don't loose sight of the bigger message because into it fervently. >> is this a chicken and egg scenario? did the political polarization happen and then the rise of talk radio or is it the other way around? >> no, i don't believe it's chicken and egg. i think there's a causal connection and the pole rised media led elected officials. i reflect on the fact that when i started in this business two and a half decades ago, we had a libertarian, we didn't know what that meant. we hadn't heard of ron paul yet. the only litmus test was one's ability to conduct a conversation. at the same time the senate, the

senate in washington was 60% comprised of moderates. that was on ronald reagan's watch. and then with the age of syndication, everything changed in radio. it then changed in cable television news, when fox came online in '96, msnbc came online a couple years after. you know the direction in which they went. i maintain in this book that they took washington with them and it's to the disinterest of the country because when i'm out and about leading my own life, i meet people for whom the issues are a mixed bag. the only people who see the world entirely through liberal lenses or conservative lenses are radio hosts and cable tv presenters. >> it's not the issues anymore. i agree it's not chicken and egg. i think that's a tired question at this point. i think the culture has changed in general and we don't want to own up to that yet. negativity is now a proxy for invite. people don't need ideas to win anymore, they don't need better to win. >> maybe that's just a moment. >> it's been a long moment. >> it has been a long moment.

do you think there's a change coming? do you sense the pendulum is going to shift away? >> i hope so. i think there needs to be an awareness that when you receive entertainment masked as news, you need to be able to sort fact from fiction. i tell you what this reminds me of. i've got an image of the cuomo brothers doing what i'm about to describe. my brother and i growing up in philly back in the '70s were in the bean bag chairs beating the heck out of each other watching wrestling. this is what the media world has become. every issue is good versus evil, you know which side you're going to root to. it has so debased the substantive debate that i think is necessary in this country. >> i feel that's a perfect segue to your show on cnn. is it do you think? >> yes, it is. >> i hope some that's what i'm

trying to do. >> real quick, michael. do you feel you were part of the problem? >> no. i really -- this character in the book, the protagonist is named stan powers. stan powers will say anything just to get ahead. his conscience bothers him because he's saying things with which he personally disagrees. u' sure in 20 years i've said plenty of ridiculous things, but i believe each one of them when i uttered them. that's the difference. >> by the way, you're still part of the problem. you're every bit as much a member of the media as anybody else. don't upset yourself. >> i am. but this is not the way i play it. i don't play it this way. i don't line up guests looking for a conservative republican. i want good compelling content, let the chips fall where they may. >> michael smerconish's book is called "talk, a novel." don't forget to tune in at 9:00 a.m. eastern is its on cnn. welcome to "new day." thanks for joining us. coming up, a mom whose son

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we told you about schools taking kids' lunches away because they have a balance due on their accounts. here is what it feels like when it happens. >> it was really embarrassing, especially in front of the whole lunchroom, right in front of the whole classroom, took my plate away, saying i didn't have enough to eat today. >> he's getting to be a grownup. that's a high school junior. guess how much his account was off by? less than five bucks. his mother finds out. she's enraged. when she goes to the school, not only does she pay off dominic's account, she pays off the past due balances of the entire school. >> i was appalled that his lunch was taken out of his hands over five bucks. i realized i don't have to do that but i don't want another kid going through what my kid went through. >> it took $200 to get the entire high school current. why is that important? the point it makes is priceless. shaping kids and throwing away food because of an issue like

this is shameful. schools who do it, you need a lesson. we're very happy that ms. gant gave it to you. >> go mamma gant. a lot of news to get you to the news. we get you to the "newsroom" with ms. carol costello. >> i hear you, chris, i was on the free lunch program when i was in grade school. just being on the free lunch program was so embarrassing me for a time. the school system, what were you thinking? thanks so much. "newsroom" starts now. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com good morning. i'm carol costello, thank you for joining me. disgraced nba owner donald sterling breaks his silence and pleads for forgiveness. he also found a way to insult a beloved icon of the nba and even shift some of the blame for his racist rants that may cost him his team. here is the