anything they would want to invade. >> great to have you. that was just a portion of my interview with glenn, you can see more on our website at "ac360." our special report, sex lives and basketball stars starts right now. the following is a cnn special report. hey, good evening, welcome to this "ac360" special report. we just got word that donald sterling has sent a letter to the nba saying he will not pay the $2.5 million fine and is rejecting his lifetime ban. so it looks like there will be a legal fight. at least the beginning of one. tonight, my exclusive interview with donald sterling and magic johnson who got brought into this by donald sterling. we heard from donald sterling for the first time since he was banned after making the racist comments. i sat down with him in his home. there were no ground rules or limits, no pr or staff telling

him what to say. he denied saying he was a racist, he also said a lot of shocking things. his comments about magic johnson will be deeply offensive to a lot of people. as i said later you will also hear from magic johnson who sat down to speak about what sterling said. but first, it started with the audio recordings released on line to tmz sports to sterling talking to a woman, v. stiviano, and in response to a picture she posted with her and magic johnson. >> he happens to be black, and i'm sorry. >> i think it is nice, i have known him well and he should be admired. i am just saying it is too bad that you can't admire him priva privately. and during your entire whole [ bleep ] life, admire him, bring him here, feed him. i don't care.

but don't put him here, and don't -- >> people call you and tell you that i have black people on my instagram and it bothers you. >> yeah, it bothers me a lot. if you want to broadcast that you're associating with black people. do you have to? >> you associate with black people. >> i'm not you, and you're not me. you're supposed to be a delicate wife or a delicate latino girl. if you don't feel it, don't come to my games, don't bring black people and don't come. >> do you know you have a whole team that is black that plays for you? >> you just -- do i know? i support them and give them food and clothes and cars and houses, who gives it to them? does someone else give it to them? who makes the game? do i make the game -- >> well, for the first hour of

my interview with donald sterling which lasted about an hour and 20 minutes he repeatedly apologized for what he said on his recordings. now you can judge for yourself if the apology is sincere. at the first part of the question he tries to answer it, is he a racist? >> i'm not a racist. i made a terrible, terrible mistake. and i'm here with you today to apologize and to ask for forgiveness for all of the people that i have hurt. and i have hurt so many people. so many innocent people. and i hurt myself. you know. i spoke to a girl that i was found of. and i don't know why i could never -- when i listen to that tape, i don't even know how i could say words like that. i'm not a racist. i love people. i always have. but those words came out of my

mouth, i guess. and i'm so sorry and i am so apologetic. >> what are you sorry about? >> well, i'm so sorry so many people are hurt. my little grandchild goes to a catholic nursery and they were passing around candy to everybody. when they got to her -- they said we don't give candy to racists. seven and nine. so it hurts me. i hurt my ex-wife. she -- is a beautiful person. she -- goes to the hospital and she is a volunteer at cedars sinai. when i went to law school she worked at the children's hospital. she is a giver. she works -- at this stage in her life she still works.

she didn't need this. her whole life blew up. >> are you talking about shelly? >> shelly, yes. i never dreamed that this could happen. it is a terrible, terrible nightmare. >> let me ask you -- let's start by talking about the tape. did you know you were being recorded? >> no, of course not. of course not. no. >> do you know when it was recorded? were you together in a room with v. stiviano? >> yes, well, i remember some of the dialogue in the living room. >> so it was just you and her in the room? >> and just the two of us, yes. >> so you didn't know she was recording or there was a recording device? >> no, i didn't know she was recording. and she was talking so strange, all of a sudden about politics. but i want to explain a couple of things that i said. one of the things that i said was -- don't bring blacks to my

game. well, 25% of my whole game are black people. and i love them. she would always use the word black. that is a black girl, that is a black guy. this is black, that is black. so when she said to me i'm going to bring four gorgeous black guys to the game, players, she was referring to, either football or basketball i was a little jealous maybe -- >> when did she say that? >> just before. and i said to her, don't bring them to the game, because of my jealousy. and in the event, she never brought anybody to the game. it was like she was baiting me to say things. >> you're saying before the recording we heard she said she was going to bring four black players and she specifically said black players. and you're saying that is what this conversation stemmed from? >> yes. and so i used her words. i mean, i really have to

apologize to all of the people that have been hurt. for them to hear that i am a possible racist. it is so painful to me because i'm not a racist. and i have never been a racist. it's not me. >> when you saw them wear their warm-up jerseys reversed that the name clipper was not on it in the first game, what did you think? >> i really didn't pay any attention to it. they are clippers and they're mine and i'm theirs. that is how i feel. i would do anything for them. i made a mistake, i didn't mean it. i said a few words. i don't know why the girl had me say those things? >> you're saying you were set u up? >> yes, i was baited. that is not the way i talk. i don't talk about people for one thing, ever, i talk about ideas, but i don't talk about people. >> do you know how the tape got released? >> no. >> do you think she does it?

>> it's -- i don't know. i mean, an 80-year-old man is kind of foolish and i'm kind of foolish. i thought she liked me and really cared for me. i guess being 51 years older than her i was dluding myself. >> were you in a relationship with her, an intimate relationship? >> well, i don't know what you mean by intimate. >> she told barbara walters that you were not. she is your protector, a right hand. >> i don't think a gentleman should discuss his, you know, any of the personal items that go on with a woman. and i -- don't want to answer that particular question. >> do you trust her now? >> no, i don't trust her. and i just wish i could ask her why? and if she was just setting me up, i think that people say she was taping me for two years. so maybe i was just fooling myself thinking for two years that she cared for me.

she certainly acted like it. >> her lawyer had made a statement that she was your archivist. >> what does that mean? i mean, i'm too young for archive archives. >> you don't want to have your story written just yet? >> no. >> so you didn't know the tape was being made. when you first heard that the tape was released did you automatically remember making those statements? >> no. no. >> a lawyer of hers claims that she gave some of the recordings to her friends and that one of the friends sold it to tmz, do you believe that? >> i really don't know. >> did you say to somebody that you should have paid v. stiviano off? >> no. >> did she ask you for money? do you believe she was trying to extort money from you in any way? >> you know, forgive me for saying this but she -- she is a good person. she is a beautiful person.

there is 15 of her, 15 children, 15 hispanic kids, sisters and brothers. and she supports them all. perhaps she has made some mistakes. i thought she cared for me. i was stupid. how could a girl care for a man 51 years older she didn't or she wouldn't have released those tapes. but she is not a bad person. you know, she has to survive. she is a street person. but inside, she is a good person. here is somebody comes along who is sweet, charming. just -- everything you liked in a woman. did you ever find a woman that had everything you liked? >> no. i didn't. >> everything i liked she had. >> yeah? >> i hope you do.

>> well, i'm doing all right. >> i don't really want to talk about her, i want to talk about me and the mistakes that i made and i want to correct them. >> okay, well, let's talk about you and the tape itself, the actual statement. >> i'm responsible. i wanted to apologize also to my partners. i have 29 partners in the league. that is a wonderful league. i respect them and i love every owner. every owner knows me. i love the commissioner. i'm sure that it is terribly difficult for him to impose severe punishment. because he knows me so well. but here he is trying his best to -- the league actually believes doing everything in their power to eliminate it, you know, racism. and here he is sitting behind his desk i guess and the explosion comes on his desk.

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welcome back to the "ac360" special report. this is the first time that donald sterling has spoken publicly on the record since he was banned from the nba for making racist comments. in sterling's analysis he was not a racist. he was just jealous because the woman he was interested in was bringing other guys to the games. we also talked about the future with the clippers and sterling believes he can maintain ownership. >> here is what i don't understand. i get you were saying you were jealous, you didn't want her seen with other guys.

other guys, you thought she was trying to throw it in your face. >> did you ever like a girl, or jealous a little bit if she was with other guys? yes, i didn't want her to be photographed. >> you were jealous? >> i admit i was jealous. and it was stupid. >> the thing is what you were saying weasn't i don't want you seen with other guys, i don't want you being seen with black guys. >> because she used the word black guys, i'm bringing gorgeous black guys. >> but in the tape, you say people were calling you up and she was bringing black guys to the game. >> it is all confusing. >> you say why are you taking pictures of minorities, why? later on you say it bothers me a lot, you're broadcasting that you're associating with black people. do you have to, and she says you say that i'm not you, you're not me.

you're supposed to be a delicate latino girl. why does not associating with a black guy make her not a delicate latino girl? >> i can't explain some of the foolish uneducated words that i uttered. i don't know, you get upset, you say things. >> i'm just saying in your lousy instagrams you don't have to have yourself walking with black people, you don't have to. if you want to, do it. >> it doesn't make sense, i don't care. i didn't care. >> would it have been okay with you if she was bringing a white person to a game? >> she had four seats. she brought a lot of people. i don't understand why in the world i said any of those stupid uneducated remarks. because i really don't care who she brought to the game. i was more interested in the

game. i was a little jealous. i have to admit. but i don't know why i said stupid things. >> for a lot of people, though, these comments that were caught on tape do echo other charges that have been made in the past. as you know by elgin baylor and other incidents in the past o-- >> no, no, no, you're trying to connect -- elgin baylor has nothing to do with the things i said and 20 years later? >> well, he claims you had a plantation mentality. and now in this thing you say you feed these guys -- >> i think you have more of a plantation mentality than i do. and i think you're more of a racist than i am. because i'm not a racist and i have never been a racist, i'll never be a racist. i don't know what that means to have a mentality. you're asking me about questions, what do you mean a mentality? >> well, to have a plantation

mentality is to feel like you own these guys, they're working for you. >> well, do i own them? my players earn $100 million a year. some of them earn $50 million a year o-- >> you say you support them. >> well, i think i create opportunities for them so they can make $100 million. i don't give them anything, believe me. and those players could get that same amount of money anywhere else. >> you acknowledge they earn that? >> of course they earn it. and they work harder than any other sport. >> well, the nba says they want you out. are you willing to give up ownership of the clippers? >> well, i'm not sure that is what they want. >> no, that is what they want. >> well, that is your opinion and that is what the media says. there are people on my team -- the media says that the players want me out doesn't mean they want me out. >> have you talked to some of the other owners? >> yes, i have talked to the

other owners. >> do they support you? >> you are saying some owners want you to remain the owner of the clippers? >> i don't speak for them. they speak -- >> have any owners told you that? >> i didn't ask them. i -- i humiliated them. i don't know how -- why i did it. i mean, it is so terrible. and i -- >> so you don't believe, though, that the owners would vote to have you removed as owner? >> i don't think so, i don't think so. >> if they did would you fight that in court? >> we're not there yet so why should i address that issue. i don't want to fight with my partners. you know, we all do what we have to do in my life. i love them and i respect them and whatever their decision is with regard to the disposition of my terrible words then i have to do it.

i think. the players don't hate me. the sponsors don't hate me. >> you don't believe -- >> the fans don't hate me. the media hates. the media, it is all the media pushy -- >> honestly, you really believe -- >> i believe it 100%. i believe it 100%. people call me by the thousands and have given me support. they don't say i should have said that. >> you don't think the players don't like you. when the clippers, when the team -- >> why wouldn't they like me when i'm respectful -- >> when they reversed their jerseys and didn't wear -- >> well, when one does it the others have to do it. >> do you think they're just pressure? >> well, what do you think? do you think they're all going do walk off the team? i mean, can any of us stop working? we all have to work and earn a living. we all have bills. we may work for an employer we don't love. i contend that they love me. >> you think they still love you? >> i do. >> you believe the players of the l.a. clippers --

>> absolutely. they know i'm not a racist. and i'm not a racist. >> why haven't they come forward and said that? >> well, you see people are intimidated by even the thought of racism. and around the world, and this -- they call me from australia, from london, and they ask me different media, are you a racist? i'm not a racist. >> up next what donald sterling said to me about magic johnson. instead of trying to soften any of his previous comments about the legend, he amped up the attacks that no doubt will spark new outrage. also, response to comments like this. >> what kind of guy goes to every city and has sex with every girl and then catches hiv? is that somebody we want to respect and tell our kids about? i think he should be ashamed of himself. i think he should go into the background.

but what does he do for the black people? he doesn't do anything. berkshire hathaway home services. good to know.

one of the most disturbing parts of my interview about donald sterling was the things he had to say about magic johnson, just after the story broke last week, magic johnson tweeted that he would never go to a clipper's game as long as donald sterling was owner. he tweeted the rant in an instagram photo. magic johnson's coming up. >> magic johnson has made a public comment. do you have something to say to him? >> what could i say to him? he -- it doesn't matter.

it doesn't matter. i'm hurt but it doesn't matter. >> you're hurt that he -- that he said that he spoke out publicly? >> i'm hurt that he called me up and he said don't do anything. wait until you hear from me. then somebody called me later and said he doesn't want to be involved. and then he released a tape that i said to him that i talked to him in confidence. i didn't give any interviews. you are my interview. i'm deciding if i like you. no, but i mean, here is a man who -- i don't know if i say this. he acts so holy. i mean, he made love to every girl in every city in america. and he had aids. and when he had those aids i went to my synagogue and i prayed for him. i hoped he could live and be well. i didn't criticize him. i could have, is he an example

for children? you know, because he has money he is able to treat himself. but magic johnson is irrelevant in this thing. he didn't do anything harmful to anybody. and i respect him and i admire everything that he does. you know, i would like to help even more if he would offer me an opportunity to help. i like to help minorities. >> magic johnson had said that you know he would never attend a game while you were owner. apparently he showed up to a game today. >> he would never what? >> attend a clipper's game as long as you were owner. and he came today to see the game. >> he was there at the game? >> yeah. >> i don't think it is worthy of even discussing such a stupid remark. but he lulled me into waiting a week. do you know what i mean? he said don't do anything. >> you're saying he told you not to say anything? >> yeah, don't do anything, i

know the girl. don't do anything. i'll help you, i'm waiting and waiting and waiting. >> what you're saying is magic johnson called you up or you called him up? >> i don't know his phone number. >> i don't call anybody. i'm loyal to you. >> he called you up when the tape came out and he told you not to say anything? >> yeah. >> why did he say don't say anything? >> he just said wait, be patient, i'll help you, we'll work it out. >> why do you think he said that? >> i think he wanted me to just do nothing so he could just buy the thing. he thought maybe the whole thing would be resolved in two weeks. well, what has he done? can you tell me? big magic johnson, what has he done? >> well, he is a business person, he -- >> me has got aids, did he do any business? did he help anybody in south l.a.? >> well, i think he has hiv. he doesn't actually have full blown aids. >> what kind of guy goes to every city and has sex with

every girl then he catches hiv. is that somebody we want to respect and tell our kids about? i think he should be ashamed and go into the background. but what does he do for the black people? doesn't do anything. you call up and say -- >> he has opened a lot of businesses in inner city neighborhoods. >> the jewish people have a company and it is for people who want to borrow money and no interest. they want to give them a fishing pole. we want to help people, if they don't have the money we'll loan it to you. if you don't have interest, one day you'll pay us back. i'm just telling you he does nothing. it is all talk. >> you have talked to him? >> twice. >> yeah, and -- >> did you apologize? >> he knew the girl, he said. he knew the girl well. >> did you apologize to him? >> well, if if said anything wrong, i'm sorry. he is a good person.

and he -- what am i going to say? has he done everything he can do to help minorities? i don't think so. but i'll say it. i'll say it, you know. he is great. but -- i just don't think he is a good example for the children of los angeles. that he would go and do what he did, and then get aids. i mean, come on. maybe he doesn't think i could be a good owner. i remember when he came from detroit. he came to my house. you know, he was a great player. great player. but what i could like to know exactly -- what does he do? he works with the dodgers? >> well, he has got a business, movie theaters.

>> i spend millions on giving away and helping minorities. does he do that? that is one problem i have. jews, when they get successful they will help their people. and some of the african americans, maybe i'll get in trouble again. they don't want to help anybody. what has magic johnson really done for children's hospital? which kids are lying in the hallways. they're sick. they need a bed. what has he done for -- any hospital? what has he done for any group? i don't know. maybe he has done a lot. i know he is successful in business. but i -- i'm not interested in business anymore at all. i'm interested in helping people. >> but you are interested in business. you're interested in maintaining ownership of the clippers. that is business. you could take hundreds of millions of dollars from the

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welcome back to this "ac360" special report, before the break you heard donald sterling's outrageous claims about magic johns johnson, that he is not a good role model and has not done anything for the african-american community. remember, magic johnson did not ask to be a part of this story. that all started when v. stiviano posted an instagram on her facebook page with magic johnson in a picture, something he does every day. apparently this photo got released to tmz. >> i saw somebody i -- i admire magic johnson. >> okay. >> he has made a lot of changes for his community, the world, the people, the minorities. he helped a lot of people.

>> i have nothing more to say. >> and this was a picture with someone i admire. >> good. >> and he happens to be black, and i'm sorry. >> i think it is nice that you admire him. i know him well and he should be admired. and i am just saying that it is too bad you can't admire him privately and during your entire [ bleep ] life, your whole life admire him, bring him here, feed him, i don't care. you could do anything, but don't put him on this event where the world has to see where they have to call me. and don't bring him into my games, okay? >> well, of course i began my conversation with magic johnson talking about that recording. when you first heard the audiotape that was released a couple of weeks ago, what did you think? >> well, i was just blown away. i couldn't believe that he had said those things. first of all. made those statements, those racist statements and then, you

know, threw me in, don't bring him to my games. and so you personalily attack m. so i had known donald not very well, been to his office two or three times. >> so would you say you guys were friends? >> i would say we were friends. my first trip, when i got here in l.a., about -- over 35 years ago, the doctor took me to his annual beach party in the summertime. so that was one of the first things i did. so to reflect back to that to the statements he made about myself and minorities it was just disappointing. and i was in disbelief that he would say these things. and then you know, to throw me into the situation, i don't know the young lady. barely know donald. so now i'm caught in the middle of this love affair, or whatever

they have. and so it was sort of disappointing. but i had to respond in terms of okay, you don't want me to come to your games. i wouldn't come to your games, you don't have to worry about that. but also i was upset because he threw minorities in, african-americans into this situation. and so i had to speak up. look, i'm one of the leaders in the black community so i contact let anybody attack our people and not respond. and so that is why i responded. >> when -- first of all you said you were photographed with v. stiviano. you're probably photographed with -- >> millions of people. >> millions of people. he claimed in this interview i did with him the other day he said you knew her and knew her well. >> these are the facts, anderson, i never met the young lady. i took a picture with her looked like at a dodgers game. that is it, that is all i know of her. and then he says i'm trying to set him up. how am i trying to set up up? >> he said to me, you called him

up, he doesn't have your number, you called him up after the tape was released and said lay low. >> these are the facts, i was sitting in my office, i get a call from donald sterling. >> he called you? >> he called me. >> i took the call. >> apparently he has your phone number. >> yes, his assistant has my number, she called me, he asked me to go on the barbara walters show with him. >> this was a week and a half ago? he met with barbara walters on a friday. >> exactly, it was before that. i told him i wouldn't do it. i said the number one thing you need to do which you haven't done is apologize to everybody and myself. i'll get to that, i'll get to that. >> so he wanted you to go on with barbara walters sitting next to him? >> sitting next to him. to kind of give him cover? >> exactly. so i said no. i said donald, you should consult with your attorneys, i said this thing is a big thing and you should deal with your

attorneys and let them advise you on what to do. but i said you need to go public and respond to everybody. >> how did he respond? >> well, i'll apologize later but i want you to go on this show. he was adamant about going on the show with him and i told him no, i wouldn't do it. and that is what happened. >> so that was it? >> and then i called adam silver and told him that donald sterling had just called. so i wanted him to know that it happened so he wouldn't be blindsided either. and then i called all of my people to let them know that donald sterling had just called me. >> there was an attorney for you that said look, don't keep calling magic. yes, because he wanted to call me again, my people, my attorneys and advisers said look you can't be talking to donald. i said look, okay. that is what happened. so we just called his attorney

and said don't be personally calling me. i didn't want him to feel he could just call me because he had not apologized to me. this is really weird, when he called me he should have said magic, i'm sorry. >> right, and i asked him specifically if he had apologized to you and he said no. >> no, he didn't -- >> it seemed like a surprise to him that he would actually be expected to make an apology. >> well, he is the one who said don't bring magic to my games. so you know, he is the one who made these comments. so i was expecting at least an apology. and the american public wanted an apology. he finally did that. but this is -- it is sad. when i saw the interview, it was sad. it really is. i'm going to pray for this young man. i hope donald can see the mistake that he has made and also the people he has hurt along the way. and then what is really sad, you know, it is not about me. this is about the woman you love

outing you and taping you and putting your -- putting your conversation out here for everybody to know. that was not me. i didn't do that. i don't know this young lady. this is between you two. but then he wants to include me. and i'm not included in this situation. and then he wants to you know, ask me what i have done in the minority community. that is well documented what i have done. >> magic johnson has done so much for so many people for many, many years. we spoke at length about his work in the community and what he has done to help people with hiv/aids, more of my interview with magic johnson next. of complete darkness. i am totally blind.

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welcome back to our special report, now for more of my interview with magic johnson, donald sterling claimed he is not a good role model for kids and that he has not done anything to help african-americans, something that is simply not true. throughout my interview with magic johnson he was gracious and kind, while still setting the record straight about donald sterling's claims. >> here is a man who we would believe is educated and is smart enough to build this type of wealth and own a team that has an incredible platform to change

the world but he is doing it in a negative way. first of all 22 years ago i announced that i did have hiv. and i came out like a man. you know, i told the that i have attained, i will have to retire from the lakers today. >> i didn't blame nobody else. i understood what i did was wrong. okay. so i announced that to the world. and i hope that i was able to help people in doing that. and i think i did. >> you helped countless number of people. >> yes, yes. and i've been to hospice. i've been to hospitals, hugging people with hiv and aids, you know, before they were dying, or people who had -- didn't know if they could live a long time. i hugged them. i counseled them, i talked to them. i talked to them about taking their meds and making sure they stay on their regiment, which is the key. i talked to a lot of young people who just got hiv and was

thinking about, you know, committing suicide. you see. and i tried to talk them out of that. and then we're giving away over $15 million, my foundation. i joined the president's hiv and aids council, you know. so i've done a lot of work in the hiv and aids community. >> the magic johnson foundation has been around for 20 years. you've given away, i mean, millions and millions of dollars for hiv/aids education, you expanded out to other education for people in underserved communities, community outreach. the idea that you have not done the stuff, you don't put ads in the paper about what you do, which is what something donald sterling has done, but you do the work. i was talking to people and the work you've done, they tell me, young man came up to you at a speech you gave and was talking about the difficulties he's facing and you were on the spot and said, i'm going to pay to put you through school. giving millions to open up churches in urban communities

and even, again, you don't trumpet this, even your business work, not your foundation work, even your business work is devoted to largely underserved communities, urban communities and bringing businesses in. you're instrumental in bringing starbucks and all these businesses -- and movie theaters into underserved communities. >> it is important we have options that we can go and go have the best cup of coffee served by starbucks. but also it brought jobs. it brings jobs. we have creates thousands and thousands of jobs in urban america. those people can now walk to their job. they can take care of their families because of starbucks 24 hour fitness, on and on and on, magic johnson theaters. i continue to do good work in urban america. and i will always do that. i'm devoted, my whole life is devoted to urban america. so, you know, i just wish he knew the facts when he's talking. but he's a man who is upset. and he's reaching. and he's reaching.

he's trying to find something he can grab on to do help him save his team. and it is not going to happen. it is not going to happen. >> he claims the clippers still love him. he claims that the players, he says he believes the players genuinely love him and they're just pressured by the media and others. >> really? hmm. now he is delusional. and i'm -- and not only the clippers don't love him, the other players in the nba don't love him. so the players have rallied together. the only thing they're waiting for is to see what's going to happen with the vote and the board of governors. >> bitty the other owners. >> by the other owners. i hope they understand we can't have this kind of action in our league or in our society. we can't have it. >> sterling claims, push comes to shove, he can buy time, push comes to shove, the players are going to play, sponsors are going to sponsor his team even if he stays there, that money talks, and that in the end they

got contracts, sponsors want to make money, everybody wants it make money, he clearly believes there is a root for him to remain as owner of the l.a. clippers. >> can't buy his way out of this one. he's bought his way out of all the other situations. can't do it this time. >> are you interested in the clippers? there is a lot of reports you would be interested in being owner or part owner. >> well, you know, we have to wait -- that's going to be eight months it a year to see if it ever hits the market. but for me, if it comes out and it is for sale, and my guggenheim partners and i say we're going to take a look at it and buy it, of course we'll make a run for it. what i want, would really want to do is own the lakers. if any team i want to really have or be a part of would be the lakers. not the clippers. but if i can't be a part of them and it is a team i like, the clippers, i like and my partners like because, you got to remember this is going to be a billion dollar deal, so i have

to include the guggenheim, mark walters and todd and -- they're going to be a part of that. so we have to wait and see. but this notion that i want his team, if is with was going to somebody, deceive somebody, be dishonest to somebody, steal somebody's franchise, it is going to be the los angeles lakers. let's make that clear right now. >> you're putting that on the record. >> it won't be the l.a. clippers. >> i think you tweeted out late last night, you know, this is the week we should be focused on the games, last week we should be talking about donald sterling. >> that's it. i'm doing one more interview and that's it. i'm in the goinot going to do a. i'm tired. i'm tired of talking about donald. i'm -- it is a shame. i -- i had a did something to deserve this, right? taken a photo with a young lady and i have to answer all these questions. but that's okay. i'm going to pray for him.

i'm a god fearing man. i'll pray for donald and his family and i hope the board of governors do what they're supposed to do and i can get my life back and go back to just being irving magic johnson. >> magic reacting to donald sterling's claims of what seems to me to be amazing grace. we'll be right back. ♪ ♪ ♪ abe! get in! punch it! let quicken loans help you save your money. with a mortgage that's engineered to amaze! thanks, g.

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