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somebody is hiding something. he is questioning whether boeing more the cia might be involved. take a look at this. ♪ that is a movie about flight 370 already? a trailer for the proposed film "the vanishing act." but first i want to look it this notion of profiting off greed and even death. we saw michael jackson performing at the billboard music awards. he died five years ago but there he was live and in living hologram promoting an album from beyond the grave. he joins the ranks of tupac at coachella. elvis singing with see lean dion. but if you ask me it's more than just a little creepy. jackson, presley and monroe are

pop celebrity moneymakers. those are performers, icons who knew their legacies would endure. those who lost their lives on 9/11 didn't know that nor did their families. and a museum is now selling 9/11 memorabilia. it raises a good question. where do we draw the line? when is it okay to make money off other people's grief or death? first we start with breaking news tonight. it is on clippers owner for the moment anyway, donald sterling. the nba took its first legal step to force donald sterling out of the league. he will be allowed to make a presentation in his defense at a special board of governor's meeting on june 3rd. the league denied comment. ann coulter will comment.

it's great to see you. ann, you doing okay? >> yes, good to see you, don lemon. >> i wish you were here in studio with me. but "sports illustrated" says that donald sterling's attorney wants three months to respond? >> i think the lawyer needs three months to run up his bill. i don't know. i get kind of depressed hearing about donald sterling. i wrote a column about it. i don't think he is representative of white people of sports owners, of americans, i mean this guy has been opening whoring around for years without anyone pointing that out. i think the whole thing is depression and it should go away. >> do you think he should lose his team because of what he said?

>> you know, i never really thought about that because the most shocking part of the story to me. i was traveling the week the story broke. i heard eight hours of commentary before i heard the phrase, "his wife" i thought they changed stories. they are talking about donald sterling. he has been married to the same woman for 40, 50 years and openly consorting with prostitutes and sued one of the prostitutes. he sued her for the return of property. and the deposition reads like, you know, something out of "penthouse" and this is the first we're hearing about it. and it is kind of creepy being taped secretly. though i think -- >> in your own house. >> in his own house. >> you have some expectation of privacy in your own house.

so he is refusing to pay the $2.5 million. that's initial fine do. you think he should fight? do you think that he should just go away? >> yes. that is a good summary of my position. i wish he would just go away. >> you mentioned his wife, shelly sterling. she is -- her attorney responded to the nba today saying she is innocent in all this and should not lose her 50% do. you think it's fair to punish her for what her husband said and her husband's actions? >> no. she seems like a victim, in my book. she married him before he had any money. she isn't some prostitute gold digger. and she was the one who brought the lawsuit to get, what was it? a bentley, a ferrari, a $1.8 million apartment that her husband had given to his

mistress to get it back. the mistress complained and said i'll get you. and that was apparently what led to the illegal taping. it is kind of a funny transcript though like i say i was captivated by the fact he has been opening whoring all these years and that is not even 1% of the outrage against him but it's to look at the transcript of what he is being taped saying, she is clearly the one leading him into. he is not bringing up her hanging around black people. she is. >> you think the wife is being punished for something that donald sterling did? >> i'm sure if you look into anyone's life, you could find something that someone would object to. >> she had to know -- >> she seems like a blameless victim. >> 50 years of marriage she had to know something about his character. >> yes, she must have known

since often sitting on the other side of donald from her was one of his prostitutes. but i don't know. >> all right, ann. i know what a big women's libber you are, so let's talk about jill abramson. did she get fired because she is a terrible manager or because she is a woman? >> we don't know from the facts. but i am loving this cat fight. and particularly, the "new york times" using a defense it wouldn't allow goodyear to use if they had a woman who was being paid less than a man, the "new york times" is all in favor of the equal pay act and is it not a defense to say, no, we paid this man more because he had more experience. it might be a defense. but you have to take it to court and persuade a jury it's not

based on sex. it's not an automatic defense to come up with apparently reasonable reasons to pay a man more than a woman. is it a little ironic to have the "new york times" host on its own gender equity pel itard. >> they wouldn't necessarily say that about him. >> they might. but, again, hilarious coming from the "new york times." >> you are talk about the liberal "new york times," just say it, what do you mean? >> yes, and they are fulfilling every sexist stereo type. >> you are getting joy out of this. i want you to listen to her commencement address today at wake forest university. she talked about being fired. >> what's next for me?

i don't know. so i'm in exactly the same boat as many of you. >> it looks like she is take it pretty well. >> well, the sympathy, i would say, is way on her side in the press. and, yes, it was a funny speech. it was good. and i was glad she gave this one. i was appalled and tweeted about it this weekend when i saw. remember the muslim woman, the one who is with aei. she left islam and her campaign is to oppose clitorectomies. and bran dice decided that was a controversial position. and cancelled her as the commencement speaker and got

jill abramson. now jill abramson didn't say no, then, you dishonored a woman who is opposing the stoning of women who have been rained and clitorectomies. >> i never would have dreamed i would sit here on national television talking to ann coulter about clitorectomies. is it disrespectful to buy a souvenir mouse pad or outfit for your dog on what for many is hallowed ground? tweet us about this and other things at #askdon. we'll be right back.

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not the way riches says his son, jimmy, should be remembered. a firefighter killed on that day. >> i think it's disgusting. >> what we know is the right thing that when visitors come here they want to take a keepsake away. >> reporter: joe daniels is president and ceo of the september 11th memorial and museum and spend the last eight years developing the site which will cost $65 million a year to run. the museum receive not government funding and relies on donations, revenue from tickets and money from the gift shot. >> should you be sensitive about what you sell there? >> if you don't like what we're segment, don't buy it. the number one seller in our gift shop is a book called "the place of remembrance".

>> do i expect to say that everything we have done here is 100% absolute right? there are always bumps in the row. >> reporter: lee lost his son jonathan, who was a firefighter here. and he says the 9/11 museum is like the oklahoma city national moment and museum which are also located at sacred sites and have gift shops. >> someone has to pay for these things. >> reporter: the feeling he has for his son far outweighs any controversy. >> it's reflecting absence. it's as if their souls are falling into the water. >> a fitting tribute for jonathan? >> for all of them, yes. absolutely. >> reporter: jason carole, cnn, new york. >> back now with ann coulter. what do you make of this controversy? do you think it is okay to have a gift shop that sells items like that? >> yes, absolutely.

the holocaust museum has a gift shop. this is a museum. it is not a museum over some like car crash or something. this was an attack on the nation. anyone who was alive at that time remember -- there were no commercials on television. everyone would wake up on the morning and turn on the tv and go to sleep at night with a remote control in your hand. this was a massive, devastating attack on the nation. it is not about an individual relative. i mean, obviously, americans feel massive sympathy and kindness toward the survivors of the people who died. and thus, they have been paid well. but this is a museum. and to act like everything has to bend to these survivors of a particular victim in this, this wasn't a car accident. it was an attack on the country and americans have very strong feelings about it. i think is it a silly controversy. >> i understand your feelings.

but it may be easier for you to say that because we don't have family members there. i agree -- i believe you can say what you want to say. >> i will leave you with the thought that the holocaust museum has a gift shop. >> ann coulter. thank you, always appreciate you. turn now to the assemblywoman for from the new york state assembly and two 9/11 family members are with us. alison crowther's son, wells, was the man in the red bandana. he saved dozens of people before losing his life. and rosaline's brother was lost. >> what do you make of what ann coulter said about that? >> i'm in agreement with what she said and lee ielpi said the same thing.

i am a businesswoman and i have on many occasions over the years worked as a fundraiser for non-profit organizations on a volunteer basis. but i know the challenges of doing this and the costs of this museum is beautiful. it's in a sacred space. i have never seen any group of people take more care over a longer period of time to honor the families feelings and the various -- all the different opinions on every element of this project. so, to me, it's perfectly fine to have a gift shop. they have to raise money to keep the museum open and going and it is not free. >> i want you to hear what the president had to say about your son on thursday. >> three years ago this month after our seals made sure that justice was done, i came to ground zero and among the families here that day was

alison crowther and she told me about wells and his fearless spirit and she showed me a handkerchief like the one he wore that morning. and today as we saw on our tour, one of his red handkerchieves is on display in this museum. and from this day forward, all those who come here will have a chance to know the sacrifice of a young man, who like so many, gave his life so others might live. >> that was a beautiful tribute to your son. the president speaking on thursday at the dedication of the museum and you're okay with it. but rosaline, your brother died at 9/11. you have a problem with the gift shop. what it is? >> what is disturbing to many families. my group who is involved, we are

upset that the remains are down in the basement of the museum. ann coulter mentioned that the holocaust museum, that they have a gift shop. the one thing the holocaust museum doesn't have are the remains of victims. there's going to be -- there's a tomb of the unidentified victims down in the basement of the museum. and it's very disrespectful to have a gift shop near that. and we really wanted those remains to be above ground on the plaza where the trees and water falls were, not in the basement of a museum next to the gift shop. that's what is disturbing to the families and that's what is very different from the holocaust museum. >> nicole, does she have a point here? >> look, i think that it's a very sensitive, very emotional topic and i do believe that both actually have very good valid points and there is a balance that could be achieved here. this moment does need money to

operate. the federal government should be stepping in to help cover a lot of this cost. they will spend $12 million alone on security and have not seen the federal government make a commitment to offset that cost. with regard to the moment and the gift shop. some items could be appropriate. patriotic items, flags, bumper stickers saying "we never forget" but there are other items i saw in the catalog that were a bit insensitive talking about charm bracelets and earrings, silk scarves, ties. >> neckties with the skeleton of the former world trade center imprint on it. we we come back i want to get your thoughts on the truthers and their theory that 9/11 was an inside job. [male vo] inside this bag exists

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almost 13 years after 9/11, a museum dedicated to the memory of those who died is causing outrage and upsetting some families. with me are new york state assemblywoman, nicole malliotakis. and alison you said you are okay with the gift shop. what about the truthers who are promulgating the myth of 9/11 that it was an inside job outside of the museum. >> i think it is unfortunate and

insensitive of these people. but this is a country that has freedom of speech. so you know, i suppose they have their right to say whatever they feel. they are not well informed. you know, nobody was standing there pushing a button and saying time to collapse the buildings. the buildings were structurally compromised by the attacks and when -- i attended the sky scraper safety hearings for the 9/11 commission and i understand that these buildings were designed to come straight down if anything would happen to prevent larger, greater damage of them toppling over in one piece. so you know, nobody pushed that button and said time to collapse these things, they just came down. you know, people have been saying the world is ending in big newspaper headlines for a long time. so i put in the that category of utter nonsense. and if they, you know -- people

just need to be informed. >> there are some folks like rosaline that believe that this is a terrorist target now. do you think we are safer now especially in new york city than we were in 2001? >> i certainly do. i mean, i certainly think we are safer and our government is doing the best they can to product us. everyone is really work together at all levels of government to ensure that this site and all of new york city and all of america remains safe. >> rosaline i have to ask you about a film that is being pitched about flight 370. you know what is it liked to lose a loved one in a situation like. that is it too soon to have the families deal with that grief? >> i think it's just too seen because they haven't got any answers for their loved ones yet.

i think it's too soon for the public to be thinking about watching a movie. we need more investigation and more of an understanding. it's so mysterious that it disappeared like that. so i think we all need a bit of time to figure out what happened before we make a movie about it. it's too much hollywood. >> there was a movie made about united flight 93. do you think it's too soon about mh370? you're been there. you know. >> i think the public will decide it's too soon to watch it or the public's going to want to know as much as they can. these horrible events, it's a shame that people leap right away to make a film about it when even how accurate could it be? people don't even know the details of what happened? i think that's a mistake.

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we have some breaking news tonight on flight 370. a joint statement from malaysia and inmarsat about the raw satellite data. what is this statement say? >> reporter: don, just in the last minute before you came to me, this came through into our e-mail. it says that in moving forward, it's imperative for us to provide helpful information to the next of kin and the public. it's the raw data that the families have been pushing for. they have had it at the top of the agenda to get this from inmarsat and the malaysian government. they say they are going to release the raw data and data communication logs. i want to read this to you, the data communication logs as well as relevant explanation to enable the reader to understand

the data provided. it must also be noted that the data communication logs is just one of many elements of the investigation. so basically, don, finally what the families have been pushing for all these weeks is that raw data, the data communication logs which is basically the same thing. they're going to get them. now late last night here in kuala lumpur, the minister for daycare acting minister for transportation and defense minister released a statement saying he was going to push the inmarsat to do that. they say they are going to the that but they want to do it in a presentable way. >> thank you. i appreciate you. i want to bring in my panel of experts, jeff wise, david soucie, cnn safety analyst and here with me in studio in the hot seat is jules jaffe. david, what do you make of this information that we just got

from inmarsat? >> i think it's a result of all the hard work and the effort and the push from the families from voice 370, from the general public. it's a real testament to the fact that banding together and pushing for something can happen. it's critical information to have. it will do so much for verifying the information that we've gotten before as to where it is. i think is it fantastic. >> jeff, you have wanted this information to come out for a long time now. do you think that we will start to see new theories about what happened? >> the box is going to open and we get to look inside and see what this is all has meant for all these months. it could produce more theories and cancel out a lot of theories and able to have a much better understanding of what is going on. >> i want to follow up with you, jules. do you think that this is going to change?

we have been looking in the same place because of this inmarsat data. do you think this will change that and we will look at new places? >> it's hard to know. what we really like to have is many smart people working on this problem as possible. so making the data available in a public venue will facilitate that process but it's in the least if the same conclusions are basically concluded by people looking at this day tacoma we'll feel more confident that we are look in the right place. >> so there have been people who suggested that the best way to look now because the bluefin is off being repaired. the best way to look for this plane is to let a piece of debris wash up on shore and trace it back to where it may have came from. do you think that's the best way of doing that. >> not really.

it seems like -- one of the things we know about the ocean and that makes it so interesting from a scientific point of view is the variety. you get the storms blowing in and the currents change. to make the assumption that the ocean is the same as two months ago is trans-scientific. >> i have had you on several times do. you think this plane is in the southern indian ocean? all this information we have from inmarsat this is the number one probability do you think is it there? >> i'm hoping that it's there. i know i'm not answering your question. but i'm a scientist, right. so the facts are we have these equations. you saw the two trajectories. smarter people than i at this are making that conclusion. so i hope so but i can't say for sure.

>> what does your gut tell you? >> my gut tells me that is probably where is it. and i'm hoping that that's where it is. >> the best technology to use to find it? the bluefin is being repaired. what is the best technology? >> people who do this kind of work use exactly that technology. there has been discuss about other technologies, a towed system. can we work 24/7 with that system? we'd have more power. but imagine yourself driving through a mountain range or flying a kite at 6 miles. we have a 6-mile cable and towing this thing around through a mountain range, the vehicles have the capability of tracking the bottom. they can keep a fixed distance of the bottom and use more high resolution technology, the sonars give us more precise resolution.

so i think -- what i think and my community of people who i reached out to since i have been on your show to many times agree that the autonomous underwater vehicles are the right way to solve this problem. >> i want to turn back to the guys on the waugh wahl here. jeff, what do you think this new information is going to show, if anything. >> the big question is the one you are just talking about. why do we think that this plane is in the southern ocean? >> you don't think it's in the southern indian ocean. >> i don't know. i have no idea where this plane is. but it's curious that on march 25th the prime minister of malaysia said that inmarsat did fancy new math that he couldn't explain but somehow they deduced it was in the southern indian ocean. no one has been able to produce an algorithm to produce this conclusion. >> i don't know if it will determine north or south. they looked at other aircraft

that had gone to the north and gone to the south and compared. they will release what inmarsat had on mh-370. i think it will tell us more accurately what the south conclusion is. but i don't think it will do that. >> stick with me. next, a new theory, the former prime minister of malaysia think that boeing taken cia are behind the disappearance. and a new flight 370 movie is in the works and drawing strong reaction.

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welcome back to our breaking news tonight. raw satellite data on flight 370 soon to be released. the families of the passengers waited nearly three months for any word on the fate of their loved ones. joining me is the family of one of the passengers of malaysia

flight 370. i appreciate you coming back to speak with us. a few weeks have passed since we have spoken. your wife was on that flight and i want to get you reaction on the statement that the raw satellite data will be released from inmarsat. what do you think of that? >> no -- >> we are having trouble with that connection. let's get back to my panel here. >> you have worked first half with the search for titanic. >> right. >> there is a real pressure to find out what happened to this plane because of the families here. there is a real responsibility here. with this data coming out, are we any closer three months later? >> it's sad and i grieve that the losses of the people whose

family and friends were on that plane need to be resolved. but i don't think so. the only thing we really know now is that there is 100 square miles in the indian ocean where it isn't. that's the fact. >> we talked about the bluefin being under repairs. and a chinese ship will be mapping the ocean floor. if you were in charge is this where you would be heading? >> if we are going to be continuing these autonomous vehicle operations what we need to understand is the topography of the sea floor. and while it is fascinating to people who don't study the ocean we just don't have a clue as to what most of the ocean floor looks like. if the chinese go out and look and figure out what the topography -- where the canyons are and the hills are that's going to help in the search. depending on the different types of technologies that we can use

that will be good information. get the lay of the land so we can figure out a strategy for exploring it. >> david soucie, it's called "vanish" this movie that is being shopped around about 370. is it too soon in what do you think of it? >> it's incredibly too soon. i can't believe that someone would want to put the families through even more than they have been. the public is smart enough not to bother at watching the movie. >> and the question is, how can they come up with an ending? the ending still has not been written. jeff wise, what do you make of this film? >> plus the fact if they already finished it -- >> they worked on the trailer and the concept. it took him 20 days to write the

screenplay. >> oh, well, you know, i agree with david, wholeheartedly. it is tasteless and baffling how you would tell a story. maybe they will produce most of the movie and wait for the ending to come out before they finish it. >> he says that a malaysian journalist gave him the idea. david, this is for you. there is another theory, this one straight from a movie. the former prime minister of malaysia suggests that boeing and the cia could have commandeered the plane remotely and hidden it away. and by the way, we should point out this is the prime minister that suggested that the u.s. government was behind the 9/11 attacks. is that astonishing to you? >> yeah, you know, don, i worked

on the airbus 380 certification and looking at the capabilities that there was discussion about remotely controlling the aircraft. and they have the ability to installing it in that aircraft. maybe is it possible to remotely control it. but the purpose of that, the only purpose of that is after a 24-bit hexadecimal system put in place to communicate with the aircraft. if the flight view crewe is incapacitated it is triggers a sequence in the airplane that flies the airplane back to where it went to or the alternate airport. there is no remotely controlling these airplanes. >> 24 bit hexadecimal. layman's terms. the former prime minister went on to say, is it a waste of time and money to look for debris or oil slick or listen to pings

from the black box. the plane is somewhere. maybe without mas markings. has he joined the conspiracy theorists? or could terrorism have played a role in this? >> there has been a lot of speculation on air, off air in the media outside of the media. and he's just another one of them. he happens to have gotten a lot of attention because he is a former prime minister of malaysia. but i wouldn't give him more credence than anyone else. >> what does this show? the former prime minister is saying something like that. >> you know, in a way i kind of feel bad for the malaysians, they don't have the advanced technology. they obviously made a huge mistake in not following this up and the tragedy of this plane and not knowing where it was, it seems clear that they're trying to dissipate the burden that's being, you know, on them from

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there are many, many theories about what happened to flight 370 and they point the finger at the plane's captain and his family has had enough of it. joining us is -- his wife was a passenger on board flight 370. thank you for joining us again. you have been patient about this situation and have been waiting for three months. what do you make of this new data coming out. does this change anything for you? >> i don't know. this new data coming and the inmarsat data that the government has been willing to share right now. is that correct? >> yes, they're going to share the satellite data, inmarsat is, from flight 370. >> first of all i would like to wait and see when this happens. i think the intentions have to be backed by actions. i'd like to see when that really happen.

secondly is just one piece of the whole amount of data that has been used to conduct the search. so when sharing inmarsat data is important i think it can be essential as time goes by for the larger set of data to also be made available. otherwise we are left to figure out the other parts from the wind. that is partly our problem of the understanding of the situation and what it will continue to be. >> i have to jump in and ask what you make of this movie that is in the works from flight 370. >> my first response was amused to hear that. but i was asking myself why am i even surprised? first it's a lawyer, and then the film makers who fuel the

fantasy and followed i'm sure by the insurers for whom fear is important. so it's just a matter of time. but i suppose the public is frustrated and there is a fair amount of fatigue and what we are is facts and not fiction or fictionalized accounts. it's poorly timed and a little too early and i don't think it's in good taste. >> i appreciate you joining us on cnn. you have joined us several times. we are think of you. david soucie, we learned more new information about the pilot of the plane. his brother-in-law is saying that the captain was no suicidal and had no life insurance. is the pilot the main suspect or should he be at this point? >> you know, in my mind there is no question that one of the two pilots was commanding the moves on that aircraft. now, whether or not it was commanded by someone else in an

effort to make a heroic move to prevent another cast if i, i wouldn't go to the suicide thought. when that aircraft made the turn is when they were transferring from one control area to another. that is the last time that one person would be alone in the cockpit. it takes two people to make that transition. one is navigating and one is using the radio. >> jules, i want to ask you this, omar says, some day the truth about mh-370 will come to light. you think you know your government. what do you think? >> do i -- think again. >> think about the malaysian government and whether they know about it you mean? it's hard to know. there's politics. there's compassion. there's science and engineering. they don't always overlap.

>> thank you, guys. >> thank you, david, jeff, and joule. >> my pleasure. >> that's it for me. i'm don lemon. i'm don lemon. "ac360" starts right now. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com >> the nba commission is working on stripping donald sterling from the team he owned. the spark? racially loaded language caught on tape. the added fuel?