debate. from the left, i'm van jones. >> from the right, i'm newt gingrich. join us tomorrow for another edition of "crossfire." "erin burnett outfront" starts right now. next, president obama breaks his silence about the v.a. scandal. but it's not the first time he has been caught off guard by his own administration. what does it say about his leadership? plus, life in prison for selling hash brownies? that's what a texas teen is facing. does the punishment fit the crime? and "wheel of fortune" host pat sajak setting off a firestorm. who is he calling unpatriotic racists? let's go "outfront." >> good evening. i'm brianna keilar.

the scandal continuing to grow in america's veteran hospitals. it makes it easier to fire senior officials at the v.a. for misconduct. this crime comes as president obama finally broke his silent today after meeting with embattled v.a. secretary eric shinseki. the president went before the american public to express his outrage and frustration over the alleged misconduct revealed by cnn that may have resulted in the deaths of at least 40 veterans in arizona. yet the president also made it clear that as of now he is standing by shinseki. but as the crisis continues to snowball, democrats now are breaking with the president. i just spoke to democratic congressman john barrow from georgia about why he is now calling for shinseki's resignation. >> it's a whole lot easier for someone new to investigate the lack of oversight of someone else than it is for the person responsible to investigate essentially their own conduct or

their own oversight responsibilities. and you also get to the point where someone has to be held accountable. and it ought to start at the top. the model you hold out is one i don't think is necessarily correct and it's certainly not relevant now. people died as a result of this. >> that was the congressman talking about this as it relates to obamacare. now in a moment, we'll speak to former white house chief of staff for president george w. bush andy card, and obama insider bill burton. but first jim acosta is "outfront" with more on the growing crisis facing president obama. >> reporter: for president obama, it's another buck stops here moment. this time over allegations of hiding veteran wait times at v.a. facilities. >> if these allegations prove to be true, it is dishonorable. it is disgraceful, and i will not tolerate it, period. >> reporter: after meeting with veterans affairs secretary eric shinseki, the president praised the general he called rick. but he suggested the secretary's days may be numbered pending an internal investigation. >> have i said to rick, and i

said it to him today, i want to see what the results of these reports are. and there is going to be accountability. >> reporter: veterans groups were quick to slam the president's comments with the american legion saying his decision to keep secretary shinseki at his post is an unfortunate one. even democrats are pouncing. >> there was no urgency. mr. president, we need urgency. we need you to roll up our sleeves and get into these hospitals. >> reporter: this is not the first time the president's been caught offguard by his administration's failures. the president touted healthcare.gov before it launched. >> the same way you shop for a plane ticket on kayak -- >> reporter: then found it didn't work. >> nobody is madder than me about the fact that the website isn't working as well as it should. >> reporter: republicans charge there is a pattern, pointing to his response to the irs scandal. >> i first learned about it from the same news reports that i think most people learned about this. i think it was on friday. >> reporter: and the president's crisis management is also

familiar, standing by shinseki as he did with hhs secretary kathleen sebelius. >> is he too detached from some of the nuts and bolts of running the government, running an administration? >> if i think you look at how the president handles a challenge like the website and handles this challenge, he responds by demanding action. >> reporter: but so far the only action the president took today is demanding that his secretary of veteran ace fairs eric shinseki present some of the findings from his internal investigation by next week. and that is top aide rob neighbors wrap up his broader view of department of veterans affairs next month. only after those actions there will be consequences, according to this white house. >> jim acosta at the white house. and "outfront" tonight andy card. see the former white house chief of staff for president george w. bush. and also bill burton, the former deputy white house press secretary for president obama. bill, i want to start with you. this backlog at the v.a. and the wait times. this is an issue that president obama has been talking about

since 2007. take a listen. >> no veteran should have to fill out a 23-page claim to get care, or wait months, even years to get an appointment at the v.a. >> i pledge to build a 21st century v.a. as president. it means no more red tape. it means no more delays. it's about making sure they are the care they need and the benefits that they have earned when they come home. it's why we're working to eliminate the backlog at the v.a. no one who fight no, sir country should have to fight for a job or a roof over their heads or the care that they need when they come home. >> so, bill, president obama there very clearly aware that this was a general problem. he has been aware of that for years, but that he said, and we've heard from the white house he didn't know about this specific problem. how does that happen that the white house doesn't know about this? >> well, look. and i'm sure andy card can speak to this as well. when you're the president of the united states, there are a lot of big problems that you're managing at any given time. no matter what the politics are,

this is obviously disgusting what happened to these veterans. and what you see the response from the president has been, to act swiftly, to find out the facts, and to act accordingly. he is not just waiting for a report to get in there and address the wait times. he has instructed his team to go in and do that right away, even as they collect the facts. but this response on the right that the only answer must be firing shinseki, firing some other person, firing all these other people, that's not the answer right now. the answer right now is get answers to all the facts and address this problem as quickly as you possibly can. the president has known that this has been a big problem for a long time. and that's why as soon as he got into office, he did start to act to try to relieve some of the backlogs, to make sure that veterans were getting better care. obviously there has been problems along the way in getting all the resources to do that. there has been republican attempts to block funding in congress for a lot of the reforms that were needed. but the president has continued to work hard and he is going to continue to find answers to the tough questions here and act

accordingly. >> andy, you can shed some light on sort of the management perspective of managing a white house. you know that. republican congressman kevin mccarthy of california, he released a statement saying that if the president truly did not know about these scandals and mistakes, we should doubt his ability to properly manage the leviathon government that he helped create. but president bush said that he first learned about the poor conditions at walter reid from news reports. is this just something that happens at times, that presidents are blindsided by things, even if you don't think that's apples to apples, does this just happen? >> it does happen, but it shouldn't be happening as much as it appears to be happening under president obama. i think the white house staff should have a heads-up on what is happening, especially the cabinet agencies. i can not believe that the cabinet affairs office doesn't get a heads-up phone call saying that somebody is looking at the veterans affairs administration and seeing what is happening, and there is going to be a big story about that. they would know that well in advance. i would hope the chief of staff

would know about it. and the chief of staff is the one that should decide whether or not the president needs to know or if people just want him to know. i think this falls into the category he needs to know. it's happened far too many times for it to be credible that the president only learns about it through the media. i think he would learn many of these problems through the normal process of the white house doing its job. so i think this is a problem inside the white house, not just inside the oval office. >> bill, and to that point, when you look at for instance we saw the president has dealt with the abysmal roll-out of healthcare.gov just here in the last several months. and now this. i mean, do you see how things like this might shake the faith of some americans in government in the role of government? >> well, i think that people should take a broad look at all the different issues that the president takes on at any given time. and should americans look at this issue and say something is fundamentally wrong? yes, they absolutely should. because there is a massive problem which is harmed. the people who went out and took real bullets for our country out

in the most dangerous places in the world. and so the president is acting swiftly to act on this. but that was an opportunity for you, andy, to say that yeah, there are a lot of big problems that happen and they don't always rise up to the white house and get to the president in time. and when that happens, you act quickly and you take them on. but this obviously isn't as big a problem as some of the things that happened over the course of the bush administration. and yes, there have been other things that happened over the course of this administration. but when the american people look at how the president takes these things on, like take healthcare.gov, for example, when there was a problem there, the president put a team in place. they fixed it. and exceeded expectations by a million different -- by a million new enrollees into the program. so i think the president has a track record of when he sees a problem, he takes it on, and he is effective in dealing with it. >> on this issue of this, of the veterans affairs hospitals, and just real quick from both of you

gentlemen, do you think that secretary shinseki should step down, bill? >> well, look. having worked at the white house, having been an aide to president obama, i know that there are a million variables that you don't know at any given time as it relates to staff. you always get a lot of kraut cries, particularly from partisan republicans, or partisans on either side that say this person should get fire order that person should get fired. the president takes a very sober approach to all of them. >> you stand with him on that decision? >> far be it for me to second guess the white house. >> and andy, what do you think? should he step down? >> i don't know whether secretary shinseki offered his resignation and president obama didn't accept it. but i would think now he personifies the problem. and when you personify the problem, it's very hard to be part of the solution to the problem. so i don't think that members of congress, republicans or democrats are paying as much attention to secretary shinseki as he needs to have in order to be able to solve the problem. so i think he may be part of the

problem rather than part of the solution. so i don't know whether he offered his resignation or not. but i hope that he did. and if president obama didn't accept the resignation, then hold president obama accountable for what is happening at that department. >> and that's what the president said. to be clear, that's what the president said, that the accountability lies with him. >> quick final question to you, andy. politics play into this. this is a midterm year. that's what it's about, politics. do you think as republicans who are very vociferous compared to democrats, although there are some, as they really take issue with the president on this, i mean this is obviously a serious problem. but do republicans risk overreaching and appearing too political on an issue like this if they are too loud on it? >> well, first of all, the constituencies that matter most are the veterans of this country. and the veterans organizations are very, very upset. and that's not a partisan response. republicans are -- yes, many of them are partisan.

lots of democrats are very partisan. but this is not a partisan problem. this is a management problem that belongs to be addressed by the white house quickly. not a long study. we understand a lot about this problem. the president is rightfully upset. but i don't think that he has called attention to the need to put a solution in place very quickly. and that's a management problem. this administration does not have a good track record on providing good management. >> well, either way it is a real issue. it needs to be corrected. i'm sure that's something that we all can agree on. thank you so much, andy card, bill burton. and stay with us. "outfront" next, republican voters sent a clear message during yesterday's primaries. is this the end of the tea party? plus, game show host pat sajak in hot water over a tweet. ann coulter comes to his defense and is "outfront" tonight. and how do you do battle with tens of thousands of bees? a man who took them on and won. we'll share his story.

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gop establishment. kentucky, the most notable race, senate minority leader mitch mcconnell crushing tea party favorite matt bevin. it was a similar story in idaho, where eight-term congressman mike simpson beat out a challenger from the far right. and same with oregon. the support of the gop establishment pushed dr. monica wehby to defeat a more conservative candidate. in georgia, the top two candidates emerged from a crowded field, beating out tea party candidates to qualify for a july runoff. outfront tonight, cnn political commentator ben ferguson as well as bill burton back with us, former obama press secretary. i want to ask both of you this. >> sure. >> look at this -- at what politico has written. in 2014, the tea party insurrection is starting to look more like the boston massacre. so let me ask you this, ben. is the tea party, is this party over? >> no, i don't think so at all. and the reason is i think a lot of the gop establishment

candidates started realizing wow, i have to start talking a little more like a real conservative and start pushing for real conservative issues in washington. and that seems to help a lot of them. there is also another issue. and that is you had some very legitimate candidates come out early on and challenge establishment people. one of those would be a great example would be ted cruz and rand paul and others like that. they are true tea party candidates that have had a phenomenal career so far. you may not like them, but they've had a great career. and then there is a bunch of wanna-be's. and they see these guys win and they're if they can do it, i can. you had a lower caliber candidate come out, people who just wanted to be a congressman. that's why i think you're see mortgage losses turkey, ben's point, bill, is that what you think? do you think republicans who are considered establishment republicans are just channeling some of the tea party i guess energy and appealing more, or do you see something different going on here? >> well, i actually agree with ben. i think the tea party is thriving, and i think democrats

ought to be worried about it. if you look in the races, ben is exactly right. they were terrible candidates. bevins going up against the republican leader in the senate was never going to work. the man could never put together any real money. the other candidates were different shades of crazy around the country, particularly georgia. so no, i think that the tea party is doing just fine. and you can see it on capitol hill every single day with cuts to nutrition programs and all the other things that they're trying to do to appease the tea party wing. >> ben, you look at -- >> i give you well-played on the last one. but look at mitch mcconnell for example. this is a guy that had a lot of disdain for the tea party, and he realized as he saw some of his good buddies get in trouble, i can't just dismiss them. >> yeah. >> i can't dismiss them on capitol hill. i can't dismiss them at home. he started meeting with them, talking to them and he started bringing up a lot of the same issue tea party people were two and four years ago. and i think that played to his advantage. >> and he brought in the support of senator rand paul, a tea party favorite. >> absolutely. >> but let me ask you this, final question to you, bill.

you heard senator mcconnell, the minority leader last night say to matt bevins supporters, he said your fight is my fight. basically, i want you to come over and support me. do you think to that point do you think the bevin supporters are going to vote for mitch mcconnell? >> the polling suggests they are far from enthusiastic about him. mcconnell has a real problem in the general, because he does have to appeal to the bevin supporters who don't like him. and grimes is going to give him the fight of his life. i think she going to win in tend. >> gentlemen, thank you so much for being with us. ben and bill, really appreciate it. and still to come, breaking news in the boston bombing investigation. we now know what the bombs were made of. we have a live report coming up. and remember this cat, tara, the one who saved a boy from a dog attack? well, apparently not everyone is a fan. that's coming up. ♪

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and it was also detonated by remote control parts used for a car. that is information that we had back when this was all going on more than a year ago with this manhunt for these two men. but it's interesting that they were built that way. the government says, look, this took some knowledge. this took some skill. this wasn't just doing this, building this in your mother's kitchen because there was this component of activating the devices by remote control. we know that tamerlan did go to dagestan. there is a belief that he was there to get training from jihadis that were there. he talked about going into the woods, which is code for going to learn terrorist tactics. learning sort of the details of how this was done sort of confirms how it was carried out. and again, there has always been this question. did tamerlan tsarnaev actually meet with anybody in dagestan who trained him. the question doesn't mean that dzhokhar received that training,

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tonight a texas teen is facing serious prison time for hash brownies. marijuana may be legal in some parts of the country, but in others, laced baked goods could land you in jail for the rest of your life. the issue is the brownies were made with hash oil, which is considered much more serious than marijuana in texas. but does the punishment fit the crime? pamela brown is "outfront" with the story. >> reporter: 19-year-old jacob lavarro is facing the same prison sentence as some rapists and murderers in the state of texas, up to 99 years behind

bars. his alleged offense? baking brownies with hash oil. >> honestly, when i heard that i was going to get life in jail, my face turned completely white. and i had to throw up. >> reporter: but local texas police say lavaro made a business out of pot brownies, selling them for 25 bucks a pop. police found several bags of marijuana and hash oil in separate containers in his house, enough to bring another felony charge against lavaro. but because of a controversial law, it's those hash brownies that could lead to big jail time. >> it really was meant to cover a situation where you were mixing a small amount of cocaine or heroin with white flour. and it was difficult to weigh it because it's all mixed up together. >> reporter: in this case, police weighed all the ingredients in the pot brownies, not just the hash oil. they included the sugar and butter and milk and eggs and flour and chocolate too.

661 grams total. but lavaro's attorney says the actual drugs only made up a small fraction of that. >> probably about five grams of actual controlled substance which in this case would be thc. and the rest is going to be baked goods. >> reporter: but police did exactly what texas state law allows them to do, because there is no way to weigh the two simply. >> they're absolutely following our policies and procedures, and followed the statute. and filed the appropriate charge, yes. >> reporter: legal analyst paul callan says the law makes no sense. >> i don't think the law was ever intended to cover a situation like this where you're making a marijuana brownie. you know, if it did, the texas legislatures must have been eating these brownies when they wrote the law. >> reporter: the district attorney's office tells cnn it will offer a plea bargain to lavaro that wouldn't have any jail time. even if he agrees to it, he has already spent a month in jail before being released on $30,000

bond. >> it was pretty scary. i was in there with real criminals that laughed at me. >> reporter: lavaro says he is definitely out of the pot brownie baking business. >> that's a no. >> reporter: lavaro's attorney says they want the wait until they get the lab results back on substances taken from the home before enter anything plea deal. pamela brown, cnn, washington. "outfront" tonight, editor and chief of reason.com nick gillespie and former prosecutor wendy murphy. thanks to you guys for being with me. appreciate it so much. wendy, this guy is facing the same prison sentence as a rapist. in this case, does the punishment really fit the crime? >> well, first, let me reject that premise, because there is a recent study that says only 2% of rapists spend even one day behind bars. >> then it's even worse. let's say it might be worse. is that fitting? >> well, here is the thing. you know, to just talk about it as if it's nothing more serious

than a kid making pot brownies is wrong. you have a felony crime in texas with only five grams of hash oil because the stuff is really dangerous. and he had 145 grams. so that's a lot less than 600 and whatever the fat brownie weighed. but it's a lot. because one or two drops of hash oil is equal to an entire marijuana joint. so let's not say oh, this is nothing more than just a little pot brownie. it's a much more serious offense. and in states where you can make hash oil through marijuana, you know, you extract it with butane, it's an extremely dangerous habit. a lot of folks are blowing up their homes and catching fire. colorado has had tremendous number of these fires recently. >> but nick, you -- >> it's not mild. >> but nick, you disagree with this. >> wait, wait, wait. you can even hear wendy saying okay, you know what? rapists actually have it easier.

this is the type of case where the drug war goes to die. it is absolutely insane. it is unjust and immoral to be putting people away for this type of crime. under texas state law, you can sell up to five pounds of pot. and at most, you're going to serve two years there is no way that the hash contained in those brownies plus the pound of pot that the cops allegedly found in his house should put him into any kind of category where he is going to spend up to 99 years or life in prison. it is insane, and increasingly people are recognizing that the punishment here is nuts beyond belief. it is nuttier than a walnut brownie, whether it has coke or pot or anything else in it. >> let's look at this. nearby colorado. you have marijuana, it's legal. stores can sell hash. they can sell hash oils. >> absolutely. >> do you think the rest of the country should follow, i imagine? >> here. let me put it this way. a majority of americans, according to all of the recent polls that have been taken think that marijuana -- and i'm

assuming that would include hash derivatives as well, all hashes is a condensed form of pot, essentially put into a resin or an oil form. majority of people in america think that the war on pot is a failure and that pot should be legal and available. half of the states basically half of the states allow for medical marijuana. what i'm put in mind of when i hear this type of case is what john kerry said about the vietnam war. who is going to be the last man to die for this mistake? is jacob lavaro, a 19-year-old going to spend the rest of his life in jail because of a policy that we already know is ridiculous? >> you think this may precipitate some changes. wendy, to you. you're making a legal argument. to the letter of the law, sure, maybe there is a case that can be made. but do you think that, you know, the law should change, or that these -- that marijuana should be legal or there should be more leniency in texas? >> we have decriminalized and

made certain amount of marijuana possession in massachusetts legal. the voters supported it. i respect it. i don't use pot. but this is not about pot. and what i worry about when we legalize marijuana is that then the line gets pushed. now, marijuana is like, you know, coca-cola. okay, so now let's talk about hash. as if it's no more serious. hash oil is much more serious. >> no, no, no. we all know -- >> and i think we're going to -- >> come on, wendy. >> and wendy, i hear you on this. and i think we're going to have to leave it there, right there. i appreciate -- >> you know that. >> nick and wendy, thank you so much. well, another day, another gm recall. the automaker announced today that it's recalling 218,000 chevy aveos due to the risk of overheating and fires. it is gm's 29th this year. what is going on with gm? poppy harlow is "outfront" with this story. >> reporter: 11 recall announcements in the past week

as general motors racks up 13.8 million u.s. recalls this year alone. >> so this has been a banner year for gm in a bad way. they've had 29 separate recalls so far this year, which is a record. this is big. >> reporter: gm has recalled more cars this year than it has sold since exiting bankruptcy in 2009, leaving just about everyone wondering what is going on with gm. >> we have moved from a cost culture after the bankruptcy to a customer culture. >> reporter: the automaker says this surge in recalls is because it's holding itself to higher safety standards, tackling problems more quickly. they also follow newly minted ceo mary barra's congressional testimony about why it took gm a decade to report an ignition switch defect that has been tied to at least 13 deaths. >> employees of general motors from engineers, investigators, all the way up through executives were briefed on information associated with this recall. >> reporter: that violation alone cost gm the maximum $35

million civil fine, and will likely cost the company significantly more in victim compensation and potential other fines. this is all on top of a criminal probe by the department of justice surrounding the ignition switch defect. >> my sincere apologies to everyone who has been affected any recall. especially the families and friends who lost their lives or were injured. >> reporter: but barra is not new to general motors. she has been with the company for 33 years. formally vice president of global product development, leaving lingering questions about what she knew when about product flaws in gm vehicles. >> i was not aware that there was this issue until the recall was introduced on january 31st. >> had gm acted differently, perhaps some of this tragedy might not -- might have been averted. >> reporter: gm says that's exactly what it's doing now, hence the mountain of recalls. the last thing they want is to be accused of delaying another one. >> they're cleaning out their

closets, going through, finding every issue they've had in the past that maybe should have been a recall and making it a recall. >> reporter: so far fixing all the recalled cars will cost gm $1.7 billion this year. and the stock is down 18% year to date. but what might be surprising is all the recalls haven't made a dent in gm sales, which were 7% higher in april than a year ago. >> what gm is doing is talking, saying that we're going to be a good corporate citizen. but they've said the same thing in the past. the proof is really in the pudding. >> reporter: and brianna, the question is are there more gm recalls ahead. i asked the company that today. they said, quote, we are aggressively addressing issues as they come up, meaning we don't know yet. we're also waiting, anticipating the internal gm investigation report into whether or not there was a cover-up in that ignition switch delay that lasted a decade. why didn't we know sooner. and we're waiting to find out

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"wheel of fortune" host pat sajak said he was kidding when he tweeted i now believe global warming alarmists are unpatriotic, knowingly misleading for their own ends. good night. the remark set off a firestorm, with one fan responding apparently when he is not entertaining the trailer park crowd, pat sajak is a climatologist. buy a vowel for this, pat. beep off. "outfront" tonight, ann coulter who also has very strong feelings about this. she is going to join us in just a minute. but first nichelle turn were the controversy. >> reporter: 140 characters, an infinite amount of controversy. >> 140 of very dangerous characters. >> reporter: pat sajak, the latest celebrity to join the ranks of twitter thoughts gone awry. here is the tweet that started the backlash. i now believe global warming alarmists are unpatriotic racists, knowingly misleading for their own ends. good night.

not quite. sajak pressed send again the next day following with sometimes it's fun to poke a stick in a hornet's nest, just to hear the buzzing. >> can i buy an i, pat, i for insane. you really don't know if he is doing it for a reaction or if he actually believes this. >> reporter: of course the tweet sent the science community into a tizzy. climate scientist michael mann tweeting back, hey, at pat sajak, this ain't the wheel of fortune. if we lose this game, it isn't just one person's misfortune. all humanity pays the price. sajak has never been diplomatic on the issue of climate change, frequently tweeting and mocking those who believe it's real. may 10th. very hot weather. we're all going to die. very cold weather. there is a difference between climate and weather. moron. just four days later, help, climate changing. must send money to lots of places. a lot of money. hurry. time is short. not kidding.

but when asked about the unpatriotic racist remark, sajak said it was in jest, saying, of course i was joking. just mocking the name calling that is directed at global warming skeptics within and without the scientific community. >> consonants will add a thousand. >> reporter: while his wording is what caused the controversy, sajak's skepticism is echoed by others, most notably florida senator marco rubio, who himself recently came under fire after telling cnn -- >> i understand that there is a vast consensus of scientists that are saying that human activity is what contributing to changes in our climate. i think it's an enormous stretch to say that every weather incident we now read about or the majority of them are attributable to human activity. >> reporter: like sajak, scientists pounced. and like sajak, rubio clarified. it seems the issue of climate change is still a puzzle worth solving. just not in 140 characters or less.

now, after all this drama, you would think maybe pat sajak would take a break from twitter. no, no, no. earlier today he is still at it. he tweeted later today i'll be tweeting my ideas on the subject of nuclear proliferation and free range chicken. and brianna, he kept going. he is on a tear. >> he is -- he says flat-out i'm a conservative. i do things differently. he linebackers to make fun and poke and stir the pot. when he said make the hornet's nest buzz. >> stick the hornet's nest. see what happens. all right. nischelle turner, thanks so much. "outfront" tonight, ann coulter is the author of "never trust a liberal over 3, especially of a republican." that almost sounds like a republican in itself. this he now says i believe global warming alarmists are unpatriotic alarmists. what was your reaction when you read this? >> i thought it was hilarious.

i'm so glad i found him on twitter. >> are you taking him literally? do you think he is being literal? is he joking? is it satire? what is it? >> no, it's very funny. because there are so many subjects today that you're simply not supposed to have. or as my friend evan says, thinking is a hate crime. well all have to believe in global warming. we all have to believe in immigration. the only question is lots of immigration or even more immigration? people who weird ly enough don'

believe the predictions coming true. that is how therapy swine flu america. >> to follow up on your report, he says he is just poking a hornet's nest, his publicist says he is just kidding. do you think he is back pending feeling some pressure here? >> oh, no, i also already re-tweeted the tweet at the end of that package, the one about police h the free range chicken, i'm sure he doesn't believe in global warming as the majority of the americans don't. the funny part is the arguments usually used against us. if you don't support obamacare you must be a racist. it is that level of argument that drives the american people crazy. >> one of the things i want to ask you, you say

environmentalism is a rich white person's concern. they released evidence where 300 scientists say that americans believe in climate change. i think only about a quarter of republicans, for instance, believe in man made climate change. but why do you say that environmentalism is a rich, white person's concern? >> well, because you're talking about you know, entire genocide if we don't have fossil fuel, we can't go back to selling food at fruit stands on the corner. we need energy to live. you have the scientists based in hollywood, you know, like leo dicaprio building the solar panels, how do you think the panels got to where he is living?

hundreds of trucks using fossil fuel. it is for people like scarlett johansson to feel better about themselves. it is people around the globe, certainly the united states. >> it is a serious topic, there was a lot of angry responses to this. but there were also some pretty humorous ones, this is from greg, he says suggestion for wheel of fortune puzzle and put up this picture. i want to see what you think about it? oh, do we have it? can we put that up? oh, we don't have it. we don't have it. but it basically showed the wheel of fortune picture where it was clear that if you filled it in, it says climate change is real. do you think that is how people should respond here, with a sense of humor here? >> yes, it is funny, the reaction to his tweet is bearing out his point that this is the sort of reaction you get. you're called a racist, a denier, compared to the

holocaust denier whenever you disagree with liberals about a lot of things that liberals disagree on. >> we know he feels strongly about it, you do too, thank you, ann coulter. and 50,000 bees in your car, what do you do besides freak out? well, somebody with experience will tell us next. and the hero cat, tara, famous for fighting off this dog, cashing in. [ male announcer ] we don't sit idle wondering how we're going to build a better truck. we get out there and walk a mile, thousands of miles, in the footsteps of the guys we build trucks for. the groundbreaking ram heavy duty with 30,000 pounds of towing and 850 pound-feet of torque. ♪ and 850 pound-feet of torque. all stations come over to mithis is for real this time. step seven point two one two.

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according to reports released by the department of agriculture last week, bee populations have been dying at a rate that is economically unsustainable, yet you wouldn't know it from the stories crossing the wires today. last night, a tractor-trailer carrying live bees overturned in canada. and then, tens of thousands of bees needed to be removed by a beekeeper. and finally in england, 20,000 bees swarmed a car, covering the tires, the doors, the windows. earlier we had an opportunity to speak with the young man that it had happened to. rory edwards. welcome to the show, i wonder when you saw all the bees on your house mate's car, which i know that you use. >> well, we were just a bit confused. we had never seen anything like

that here down in portsmouth. so probably confused was the first thing we thought. >> is this something -- i mean, have you seen a lot of bees in the neighborhood before, even if not quite in this concentration? >> no, i mean, we see a bee or two floating around in the summer. but nothing in that sort of numbers. >> okay, so you're sitting there, standing there, of course you take video of it. all important. but in the end you need to get the bees off the car. so who do you call about something like that? >> well, we tried calling the council, and the best option they could offer for us was to call the beekeeper. so we got a number off them and found out later, they came around late in the day and sort of got rid of them for us. >> so we see a picture of this. explain when you were watching, what did he do in order to get rid of the bees and how long did

it take? >> well, probably took a couple of hours. because first he had to take a bunch of bees and pop them into a basket. and he hoped he had gotten the queen bee in there. and popped it up on top of the roof. the rest of the bees followed the queen, so they took their time to get back up there. but eventually he got all of them out. >> so he put the queen in the basket and the rest just sort of followed suit. >> yeah, i think it was a bit of a luck thing, because with the number of bees, sort of grab a handful and pop them in and hope for the best. >> hope for the best, it looks like he did get the best. rory edwards, thank you so much. >> thank you for having me on. well, after our show last night, tara the hero cat threw out the first pitch for a minor league baseball team. yes, it might have been easier if she had a thumb. but the video now has more than 21 million views.

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