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that airs next thursday night, 9:00 p.m. eastern and pacific only here on cnn. that's it for me. thanks very much for watching. i will be back 5:00 p.m. eastern in the situation room. newsroom with brook baldwin starts right now. >> thank you. great to be with you. she has been found alive. here is what we know. she has told investigators that her mother's live in boyfriend kidnapped her, forced her into marriage starting at the age of 15. she is now 25 years of age and the only reason we are hearing her story, sharing her story with you today is that she finally escaped. orange county authorities arrested and charged this man for these alleged acts. website photos of the victim
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paint this portrait of a happy couple. but the woman told police he drugged her, brain washed her and held her against her will. investigators say they even had a child together. garcia was finally arrested at this apartment right here after the victim managed to find a family member on face book and get help. a decade long nightmare. live with us there in california. what with us it? what finally gave this young woman the courage to say enough is enough? >> she told police that she went on facebook and finally decided to contact her sister and that was what gave her the courage to go ahead and contact police. we're told by the police here that she actually walked up to the police department, she was actually talking to her mother who reported her missing ten years ago on the phone with her mom. she had the case number. she walked in and told them there was a domestic violence
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problem and eventually started telling her story that she was actually kidnapped by the boyfriend of her mother. now she told them that she was given five pills, and she woke up in a garage. when she woke up and tried to get out, she tried to open the door, but there was a car backed up to the door. never quite knowing exactly the neighborhood that they were in. she is a young 15-year-old who had just arrived from mexico. she said that he used that, told her that she did go to police and complain that she would be deported. so she was a very afraid according to police. i want to point this out. we talked to a lot of neighbors. six neighbors all told us the same story.
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the couple looked like a perfectly normal loving couple. she was alone all the time. she had her own car so they just cannot believe what they are hearing from police. >> thank you so much. we keep sadly through the years hearing stories like this. so a clinical and forensic psychologist, let me just bring you in. it's apples and oranges but the three young women in cleveland and it all seemed fine according to neighbors. here she finally finds this courage to get out. >> what i find to be a parallel with the young women in ohio is this idea of being abducted, of being kept against their will, of being raped, of being drugged
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so that any kindness that is shown. and therefore that's why they may end up staying. and again, physical sexual assaults. so this is something that i believe could very well be true. and here is this new world these emotional handcuffs and i had read this morning in the la times that they had lived pretty close to a police department and she didn't want to take that chance. how does a victim proceed forward? what are the issues and also
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dealing with other people judging saying why didn't you try to escape? >> this is being able to inculture ate back into the real world. going by what she is saying, yes, perhaps there were situations where she may have been out in public. it doesn't talk about as much the psychological manipulation which is just as strong if not stronger than the physical and sexual manipulation. that is number one. and number two, therefore, even though she wants to be free and wants to be out, there is still going to be emotional tie here. >> we wish her and her young daughter good luck. now to this. the most agreejeous case of
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friendly fire in u.s. history. he was talking about military veterans who died as they waited for medical care from va facilities across the country allegedly doctored to hide the long wait times. secretary has not offered his resignation to the president saying you guys know me better than that. there is a new reason to hold his feet to the fire. it is not only the aging the retired veterans made to wait but active duty troops, war wounded. a physician that has been at the crux of the scandal told us that everyone is put in a long line to receive care take a listen. >> you are telling me that our troops coming back from war now separated from active service? >> who should have priority for
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scheduling do not. >> who are coming to the phoenix va for follow up care for war injuries? >> i wish i were joking but i'm not. people were waiting anywhere from six to ten months to get into a new appointment. we're talking about people that were injured by being blown up by ieds. we're talking about people who had a mental break down and have severe ptsd and having trouble functioning. >> after weeks and weeks of no response, we saw him sfeping at that podium saying he, yes, will hold those guilty of wrong doing accountable. but for many people his statement there was not enough. what took obama so long? the author of that piece so
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welcome to chose of you. i just have to say, i read this two times over your piece. the pages and pages and pages, the comments printed out along with it are creating a lot of buzz. you say that president obama showed more urgency over treyvon martin than the veterans waiting for care. >> i did and i was particularly struck by allegedly 40 veterans dying waiting for care. over and over, i'm going to wait until the investigation is concluded. all of these different investigations that are going on. but the problems with the va as the president pointed out, not new. he was seized with the problems. when he was a senator and he served on the veteran's affairs
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committee and when he came pained on that he was going to reform these issues. with treyvon, he jumped out in the rose garden and said if i had a son, he would look like treyvon. after the verdict he issued a statement and then we saw less than a week later a press conference over look -- treyvon martin's death was not about national security or government negligence. veterans deserve this -- i would argue the same amount of attention the president has not given them. >> i hear you. >> i hear you. we have heard a lot of criticism thrown. we have to be fair and i want to play this exchange john boehner here on the embattle d.
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>> you have been reluctant. you have not called for the secretary to step down. do you still think he should be at the helm? >> i have not called for the general to resign, although i have to admit i'm getting a little closer. here's the point. this is not about one person. this is not about the secretary it's about the entire system under him. >> then you have the ig who has been sending reports about the delays to members of congress on both sides of the aisle. it's not just democrats and not just the president. >> you're exactly right. i think i was on a cnn program about a week ago talking about the same thing. the va has been plagued by problems and my father, that's the last place that he would ever want to be temperatured.
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i think republicans need to call for his resignation but more importantly this goes back to the president. you guys have talked about it. he has had him there for five years. he needs to be fired. we have not seen -- i hope he holds the secretary accountable. but with the irs and with health and human services we have not seen a pattern of president obama holding his cabinet secretaries accountable. that is where it all starts. the common answers we have seen is i didn't know. i will get to the bottom of that. what does that say about how he
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runs the administration? >> i think what that says, brook, is exactly what he, the way that he campaigned from the very beginning zg r somebody who does not go off on knee jerk reactions every time there is a problem that is facing the administration and the country. he is very measured in how he goes about trying to find out what happened. what did we find out with the irs scandal? that it was no scandal. it actually did better than what the administration thought. but, so that's true. it is different. there is absolute outrage. people need to be held accountable. outrageousness comparisons.
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you have a republican leadership that cut. when you have a republican cut 200,000 veterans of unemployment veterans. the solution together. our veterans deserve much more than that. we need to focus on what needs to be done. >> i think we all agree on that. i don't want a lot of false outrage. we need changes and that's where we have to go from here. what took obama so long? just ahead, how you got it. how will u.s. troops track down the schoolgirls who were kidnapped? i will speak live with a former navy seal about the manhunt
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the children are somewhere in chad. that's right next to nigeria. you see the map. their mission is this. to find those girls more than 200 kidnapped schoolgirls seized by boko haram. in addition to taking the girls, boko haram is blamed for more than 100 deaths. joining me in austin, texas, kay, welcome. >> let me begin here. they are in chad. >> you said it earlier with the discussing what type of group this is, boko haram clearly has
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no value for human life. my concern is how they would react if there are boots on the ground looking for people. we have gotten used to the fact that a special operations. to rescue, maybe boko haram is now in ten different places. >> the fact that we're talking 200 plus girls that could all be separated. gets a visual on a group. a few of the girls seized the
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bad guys holding them as well. who gets the call to go in to try to save them? >> that's a good question. the group i used to be affiliated with has a lot of experience. they are not going to be in a building that doesn't move. they are potentially traveling all over the country. and number two, this group, if they see somebody arriving, somebody coming in to make or affect this kind of rescue, the greatest dang ser they then go and turn their weapons on to the girls and maybe that's what they want anyway. there is a lot going on with a potential rescue. >> how quickly, then, given the fact that they can turn the weapons on the girls, how quickly and stealthily do the
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good guys have to work? >> hostage rescue is all about speed and violence of action. there couldn't be anything more important. >> what about this scenario. you humveed on ten of these people. let's say they are holding five girls. how does that work to mount a rescue with a possible loss of life? >> collateral damage is always an huh. that's why the guys that would do this type of operation are so good and train so hard because you need to minimize that type of thing. but that said, like i said, we have gotten so used to that.
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they are also fighting the flames from above. just part of the fight to get ahold of this thing. chad myers, how are weather conditions? obviously decent enough for them to get up there. >> pretty ridiculous drought. can you have a drought in a desert? drought means it's not what you should be getting. this is going to be what it's like. any time the wind blows or there is a spark we will get wild fires. i do believe that. this is only, we talked about this earlier. this is six times if size of central park. not that huge. >> the size of key west. but zero percent contained means it's going in all directions. you get a mild around, two miles around. two to six to four miles around.
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the humidity is 11%. it isn't going to rain but it could lightning. >> which could make it worse. you get rain that tries to go up, a thunderstorm tries to go up. the rain evaporates on the ground. >> it's like the perfect storm. we will keep an eye on that. coming up, the city of san diego home to sea world. if you arrive at the airport there you will be met by this ad telling you don't go to sea world. getting warm. this girl is playing when it becomes electrified. what does it mean to have an unlimited mileage warranty
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corner from there. for the next month, folks flying into san diego will see this message here let's talk about this public relations wise. welcome, peter. >> good to be here, thanks. >> so a sea world spokesman says their animals are happy and healthy. i understand the airport initially pushed back now pig of a progress is this for the park? >> it's a big airport and it's only running for four weeks. it is an ad that could hurt them. not tremendously, though. a lot of people don't necessarily come to sea world and take that airport there. a lot of them fly into la and
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drive south. if peta gets its bite into something, 30 years later, pea still has a very large presence fighting fur. sea world is prasing themselves for what will be a very long fight. >> what do they do? buy an ad? what do they do? >> between the movie and the protests after that, they are very good at ignoring the subject. our animals are great. they say the animals feel fine. and then there is other breaking news and things happen and they tend to forget about it. peta keeps this going on so there is a next time. >> have you checked the numbers?
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how has attendance changed at all? >> it has not changed dramatically enough to have an impact. they did lose some bands after this first happened but these are things, we have a short attention span theater. we kind of forget there is a problem. pmp eta is making sure we don't forget and sea world will have to deal with that. >> a short attention span? get out of here. thank you so much. appreciate it. and for more on this controversy, be sure you watch the vnn show black fish. if you have not seen it you have to. the fun day in the sun turns into a nightmare at the swimming pool. you have these young kids splashing around in the shallow end. suddenly a powerful surge of electricity charges the water.
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she touches the handrail, freezes, her muscles rendered useless. nearby a 5-year-old girl floats, her body is limp. her brother says she was turning blue. her grandfather yanks her from the electrified waters. her brother in doing this gets shocked as well. >> i was in the pool and the metal railing, i was swimming close to it and i felt the shock. >> i can tell you all three kids are okay. they survived after spending a couple of days in the hospital. the pool has since been closed and trained. a preliminary investigation blames unconnected ground waters in the pool pump house that could have done that. angelina jolie telling moms who have it all, stop complaining.
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dressed in riot gear were attacked with bricks and bottles. how are, if they have responded, how are police responding to that? >> i did get off the phone with the police chief and he says that the responses coming from the community he says they are understandable but they may not be accurate. he goes on to say this is not something that happens here. if you keep listening or watching this video you hear a woman why not taz him. the police chief tells me they did taz this man. >> let's walk back a half step. why were police in the
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neighborhood to begin with. >> they were called to the neighborhood because of a man in the neighborhood who tried to break into a house of a woman. he then exposed himself, choking her dog in the yard. so the time between that 911 call that came in from the community and the time that the man was shot was about eight minutes. >> so in the wake of the shooting, the community, the uproar, tell me about the protests, what happened, how many people, what were they telling you? >> apparently it started very small. you can hear horns honking when you look at some of the foot taj. a man was shot and police respondented to assist the man.
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that officer was hit in the head. and they moved into a vehicle to finish giving him cpr. it took them many hours so this is the one fatality from that protest and a lot of people wanting more answers. there have been three police involved shootings there this year and the police chief saying that is not normal. emotions are running high. >> we know you will stay on it. let us know what you understand. coming up, did the brothers accused in the boston bombings have help? brand new information may answer that question once and for all. plus angelina jolie telling privileged moms stop complaining. it is sparking a bigger
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conversation about parent's guilt and the fear of missing out. we will go there but first it's hard enough for adults to manage the stress of being very sick but for a teenager, it's harder, difficult and lonely. our chief medical correspondent introduces you to one who help took to writing. >> for skylar, his luck turned for the worse. >> i have severe dizziness so i couldn't walk or see straight. >> at first he just chalked it up to stress but he quickly realized something was wrong. >> no one knew what was wrong with me. >> home from school for months at a time, he desperately needed an escape. and he found it -- in writing. >> i just started writing. i would get lost in this world
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and i identified with this character and it was a way to keep me going. >> and then after several months doctors finally discovered the cause of his sfymptoms. a rare form of lyme disease. >> the book is called the hidden world. it's about a main character who has a heart attack and slips into a coma. when he wakes up he turns into a wolf. >> the hidden world was published last december with more in the works. through it all, writing saved his life. >> you really have to find something that can sustain you and keep you mentally strong. >> cnn recording. when it's donut friday at the office
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>> oscar winning actress is standing up for working moms who do not have movie star means. i actually feel that women in my position when we have all at our disposal to help us shouldn't complain. this comes directly after a wife was blasted for saying this to new york magazine. i have been working since i was 14 and that part of me is me. it took a long time for me to get into "i'm taking care of the kids." with me now two working moms, we go way back. >> way back. >> producing in a dc bureau. who would think that you would be on talking about being moms. >> are you heading to your car?
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>> yes. >> just a quick question. you all are coming out the last vote of the week. interest comments that i made are the fact that during the benghazi debacle -- >> she is chasing, running, getting answers. so, to both of you, yes. awesome talking to you. i know you have written about this. this kmen was made in response to brief braf or two talking about mom guilt. >> yes. now i think so many women and moms are applauding what she says because so many people get so tired of celebrity moms who have all of the financial means, they say it's so hard or they are applauded for being a great
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mother when they have a lot of support that many women around the country don't have. i didn't get her connection between her comments and what mcray was saying. it doesn't seem to me that she was complaining about being a mom or that she deserved that title. i think she was saying what a lot of professional women feel. when you have kids a little bit later in life, your career is thriving, your identity is connected to what you do. >> we were just talking on friday and we were chatting in a corner together privately but i will share, you know, i was asking you how do you do it? you have a little boy and you are the first to say i have help. >> exactly. i have help. i didn't think i had anything in
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common with angelina jolie. >> good company to be in. >> yes. and i will say, also, now you know how i have the stamina to run after members of congress. but it is ais absolutely true. i have tremendous help. i just called the person who is with my son right now and told her to turn on cnn because she is absolutely remarkable. i have parents close by so if i get a late night call, they are also there to help us out. i think about people like the woman who is with my son right now who didn't have the help that she gives me. i bow at the altar of all of the women who do it. >> we bow.
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>> here is my question to both of you and speaking from someone without child but one day hoping to maybe be a mom, to be like the two of you. it is interesting. like the two of you hard working women, now and then also of course before you had your kids, you have this self-identity. i am tough, powerful independent single career woman and then you have this child, how do you wrestle with maintaining that identity, but then. >> i could say you can do it. no you can't have it all. one friend of mine once talked about this. she said think of your life being on a sailboat. sometimes you might have to have more family but you're still moving forward with your career and family. other times you might have to tack more towards your professional or career. i think what is so important
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here, brook, is the judgment that goes on is incredible. and so much of it comes from insecurities that we all have. stay-at-home moms judging working moms and a friend that said why don't we just encourage all moms instead of judging them and that might be a better way to go. >> that's so true. i think about the fact that i actually because i was older when i had my son when i was pregnant, i was thinking to myself, don't pre-judge what you, what i would think about how i wanted to live. would i be able to go back to work or not? part of the way i am able to do it obviously is with help but also with colleagues and friends who have done it.
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she did it. and candy did it and other people who have done it before us will show the way. >> ladies, one day, i'm calling both of you and i bow down to both of you. >> and you will be great at both. coming up, new details about the boston bombing isn'ts information about what made up the bombs. that's next. cut! [bell rings] this...is jane. her long day on set starts with shoulder pain... ...and a choice take 6 tylenol in a day which is 2 aleve for... ...all day relief. hmm. [bell ring] "roll sound!" "action!" i dbefore i dosearch any projects on my home. i love my contractor, and i am so thankful to angie's list for bringing us together. find out why more than two million members count on angie's list. angie's list -- reviews you can trust.
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three spectators were killed and more than 200 others were injured. let's go straight to jason carol. i thought christmas lights? really? >> common items that turned out to be deadly. the fuses for the bombs were made from christmas tree lights and that it appears the brothers used and crushed and emptied hundreds of fireworks containing black powder in order to make the devices. intriguing details that tsarnaev had written during the massive manhunt. he wrote he was jealous of his older brother for getting into heaven before he did. his older brother was killed. he also wrote god has a plan for each person. mine was to hide in this boat and shed some light on our actions. the u.s. government is killing our innocent civilians. i can't stand to see such evil
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go unpunished. we muslim are one body. you hurt one, you hurt us all. then tsarnaev writes we are promised victory. we will surely get it. i don't like killing innocent people. it is forbidden in islam. stop killing our innocent people and we will stop. the use of the word we is key. the government is arguing its investigators had to question tsarnaev before they informed him of his rights because they had to quickly find out if more attacks were being planned. they now also believe that the brothers did not act alone. it is argued that those early statements should be thrown out because he was questioned without a lawyer. appreciate it. >> you bet. >> and now top of the hour, i'm
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brook baldwin. we want to begin following a developing story of bravery and determination coming out of southern california where a 25-year-old woman found a way to finally escape captivity from a man she says kidnapped her when she was merely 15 years of age. she told police this man was her mother's live-in boyfriend. that man right here, the 42-year-old, is charged with kidnapping, rape, and other sex crimes. it took ten years for this young woman to find the strength to make that run and many question what took her so long. we have perspective on that from elizabeth smart. >> as a survivor who has been chained up in physical chains and threats, i can tell you firsthand that threat is so much stronger than physical chains.
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i don't have intimate details on what threats he was holding over her head but i understand that he was holding her family and he was threatening her family. for me, that was the strongest threat anyone could have ever made to me. >> that was elizabeth smart. my next guest is jus ka christiansen. jessica, thank you so much for joining me. let's begin just quite simply with your story. what happened and how did you escape? >> three and a half months. i was removed from campus and take on the the airport. i was taken to houston, texas.
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a few different hotels. recognized on america's most wanted. >> so thanks to america's most wanted, but in that three and a half month time period, we heard elizabeth smart talk about the physical and emotional chains. we have heard in this current case, the brain washing. can you attest to that? >> absolutely. i was sexually emotionally. he changed my appearance. made me believe that my family didn't want me. that i was stupid fat and ugly.
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if they don't do what they tell you to do. i was tied to the bet on a daily basis and i couldn't get away. >> we know and can see in the fact that you are willing to come on and share your story that you have overcome this. thank you so much for sharing your story. >> in arizona today, fire crews are struggling to get ahold of what is being called the slide fire. 5,000 acres already. 7.5 square miles. screws haven't been able to contain any of it. zero percent contained here. 15 hot shot crews. time lapsed video. this is near beautiful sedona, arizona. three 00 buildings are being
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threatened and evacuations are underway. and now to that massive beef recall. it is expanding coast to coast. grocery stores scrambling to remove any potentially tainted meat before the holiday weekend. a lot of people eating burgers. food inspectors warning of an eco-lie risk. shoppers are claiming they don't have a way to know if the meat was sold in their store. how do we even know if the meat is recalled or not? >> as a consumer myself, i understand completely how frustrating this can be and you do have to take some matters into your own hands. people are worried about where this is being sold in
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restaurants. by the time a restaurant is identified, they are not serving the meat any more and there are federal regulations that don't let usda officials say which restaurants they are but by that point you are probably safe. when you go to the grocery store, there is stuff you can arm yourself with ahead of time. go to the usda website. get the numbers of the recalled beef and come armed to your grocery store and make sure it's not what you're buying. >> it's great advice, we don't think of writing down that number. but this is what you have to do. when you do buy ground beef right now, though, what can decrease the risk of e.coli? >> so much of this is in your hands. bringing it home as quickly as
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you can. make sure it is in plastic and immediately put into the proper storage in the fridge. once you are out and cooking it you have to make sure to not cross contaminate your surfaces. keep your hands clean and the beef lovers among this but you will want to cook it to an internal temperature of at least 160 degrees and the very best defense you have against illness is a meat thermometer. >> that's exactly what sanja was telling me. we have all of this at the website. thank you so much because we want to make sure people get the correct numbers to check their beef if they want to buy the meat at the store. >> happy eating. >> coming up, it has been called the dallas buyers club law. colorado is the first state to
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most agreejeous case of friendly fire. the military veterans who died as they awaited medical care today the embattled leader of the va said he has not offered his resignation to the president and now sit not just the secretary under fire but also the government watch dog meant to monitor the department, the ig. i want you to listen to house speaker john boehner just tortd. >> i am not confident that the ig has shown the interest or capacity to get to the bottom of what is a systemic failure of an entire agency. >> and then there is this, new reason to blast the va. not only are the ageing and retired veterans made to wait but active duty troops, war
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wounded, a position from the phoenix va hospital told vyy that everyone is putd on a long line to get care. >> i want to make sure i understand what you'rele thing me. you're telling me that our troops coming back from war now separated from active service -- >> who should have priority for scheduling do not. >> who are coming to the phoenix va for follow up care for war injuries -- >> correct. >> are being put on a waiting list and made to wait six to ten months? >> yes, or longer. >> you're kidding? >> no. but it's the same for everyone. everyone is made to wait. >> that's now? that's happening now? >> unless they have changed something. >> you're there now. >> i don't -- since all of this happened -- >> we're talking about two or three weeks. >> right. >> can you tell me two or three weeks ago what type of person
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we're talking about? >> we're talking about people that were injured by being blown up by ieds, people who had a mental break down and have severe ptsd and are having trouble functioning. we're talking about veterans that were severely injured by some means while in the military even if it was not in actual come bakt because we have people in rollover vehicle stents. >> who have you told this to? >> the oig knows when they spoke to me. the oig inspectors can ask anyone who does scheduling. >> they asked you? >> they didn't ask me. i told them. >> drew griffin there. dr. mitchell says that she had not dealt with any veterans who died waiting to be seen but she did say she is aware of the problems of veteran suicides and
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knows of patients who needed intense mental health treatment and could not get an point. >> troops and a predator drone. the u.s. is taking action to track down more than 200 kidnapped schoolgirls. what's the first step in finding them? and in the wake of the donald sterling scandal, another nba owner's comments making headlines today. mark cuban says i know i'm prejudiced, i know i'm big gotted. should he be punished? let's take this in context.
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>> welcome back. in thailand the military says it's running everything now. it has taken over the country, delivered a televised announcement after rival political faks failed to form a government. the thai constitution is done for. schools have been closed, tv stations heavily censored. washington is now reviewing all u.s. aid to thailand. and now to the 80 american troops hitting the ground, we know they are somewhere in chad. so we more than 200 kidnapped schoolgirls seized by boko haram which has threatened to sell the girls as slaves.
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half of the troops will support an unarmed drone and the other are for security. this week, blamed for more than 100 deaths, the group's reach and influence. joining me now, cnn national security analyst and a former via operatist. you have been to nigeria. is this a low risk way for washington to say okay? >> putting a drone up in the air is a start to find the girls first and they will also look at low powered communications to identify the group and find out where the girls are.
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at that point, if we do find them it's a question of who goes in for the rescue. >> if they get a visual and want to swoop in. >> we're talking about a large military operation, you can't just send a dozen dwi guys in, we're talking about hundreds. maybe nigeria if they let u.s. troops in. there is no option on this. if it spreads to the delta, it could undermine nigeria as well as other countries. >> how do you mean? >> nigeria has had a lot of
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economic problems and social problems. the country almost evenly divided between christians and muslims. could it provoke a civil war? yes. there is that potential. this is what the white house is going to be looking at. >> let's say that you have ten of these bad guys, boko haram, and they are holding on to five of the girls and you're going in, delta force, navy seals, whomever this may be, how do you calculate the odds on going in potentially in this kind of scenario, risking life to save these girls lives. >> well, i mean, it's a humanitarian and geo political issue. you do risk american troops. this is the war on terror and the war is moved to sub is a hero --
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sub saharan africa. this white house does not want to send troops to africa but frankly i don't see another choi choice. >> wait for it. falls from a second story window, is caught by these two guys. we will tell you what led up to this rescue next here on cnn. it was a blistery rash. i couldn't lay down i couldn't sit up because it burned so much. as first lady of our church we have meetings. we have activities. and i couldn't do any of that. any time anything brushed up against this rash it would seem like it would set it on fire again.
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>> welcome back. you're watching cnn here. and staying alive by any means necessary, you might say it's the mantra for many terminally ill people and patients looking for the medical breakthroughs. for some it means trying experimental drugs that have not been approved. on saturday, colorado became the first state to enact the right to try law. supporters hope the legislation will catch on. >> you have tested positive for hiv. >> it's a movie that has helped trigger a movement. >> importing illegal drugs for sale. >> in his award winning role, matthew mcconaughey smuggled
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drugs this into the united states to help treat aid patients. get access to the therapies being envel lopped and tested. >> this is a widow, now a single mother of three young children. >> we have been trying for over six months to get in one of the trials. >> at just 61 years old, a successful businessman and devoted dad had tumors in his spine. he didn't qualify for the drug trials because his cancer kept spreading. >> to be told for supply issues and safety concerns that you can't have the drug is
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devastating. >> it's people like nick that state lawmakers want to help. >> i think the one thing that people would agree to is when you are terminal, you really still need hope. >> patients should be able to try a treatment. >> john hickenlooper signed a right to try bill. the legislation typically gives terminally ill patients the right to try a treatment without fda approval. the unapproved treatments still have to pass phase one trials for safety, insurance companies do not have to cover cost and the drug companies have to be willing to give the patient access to the drug. >> you're going to need some
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assistance in manufacturing more of their drug and quickly if they are going to give some of it away to people who are desperate. >> because in the end it's a billion dollar game. >> but amy remains hopeful that the new legislation will pressure pharmaceutical companies. >> a change in the environment, a step in the right direction where they realized they can't get away with saying no when they can save someone's life. >> a life with no other fighting chance. >> colorado is the fist first law but lawmakers in missouri and louisiana have also
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presented a measure. experts say it won't help and can do more harm than good. on that point, wouldn't this almost create like a false sense of hope? >> you know, experts i have talked to, and i have read through the bill, it does not change the status quo. the law says patients can ask and pharmaceutical companies are free to say no. i have interviewed many, many of these patients and they ask and ask and ask. >> i can't help but think if i were in that position. >> there are several reason ys some people say these people should be told no sometimes. they don't like to say it quite the way i'm saying it.
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how does that look? someone who has made this very cloud social media campaign to get a drug, you give it to them and they die, and if it's a child, it's worse. when i talked to the parent of a 15-year-old girl who has kanser in her abdo min, bones, brain, lungs, all over and she has been told by three major drug companies, you just feel that father's pain. but if she takes this drug and she dies anyway, it looks bad for the company. here's another thing. let's say one of the companies let's her use the drug and let's say someone has a stroke, that counts against them. then the fda says one of the patients had a stroke or had some other random thing happen
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to them. the fda could hold up their approval. these people are not useful to drug companies. i hate to be so blunt but that is the reality. it's going to take a lot more than some law that looks pretty but it will take people sitting in a room hashing it out. >> i understand. >> i cried interviewing the parents. this is -- we're not going to solve this unless we get in a room and hash out tough questions. mark cuban on the record said i know i'm prejudiced and biggoted, we will play that in
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>> brash nba owner mark cuban cuts to the chase. cuban is unleashing his candor as the nba faces fallout from donald sterling's racist rant. take a watch. >> on this day and age this country has come a long way putting any type of bigotry behind us regardless of who it's towards, whether it's the lgbt community, fear of people from other countries, we have come a long way, and with that progress comes a price. we're a lot more vigilant in what we -- and we're a lot less
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tolerant of different views. and it's not necessarily easy for everybody to adapt or adapt or evolve. we're all prejudiced in one way or the other. if i see a black kid in a hoodie and it's late at night i'm walking on the other side of the street. and if on that side of the street there is a guy that has tattoos all over his face, white guy, bald head, tattoos all over, i'm walking back to the other side of the street and the list goes on on stereo types that we all live up to and are fearful of. and so, in my business, try not to be hypocrite call. i know that i'm not perfect. i know that i live in a glass house and it's not appropriate for me to throw stones. when i run into bigotry in organizations, i control it. i will work with people.
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i will send them to training and send them to sensitivity training. i will try to give them a chance to, you know, improve themselves. >> that was mark cuban. so thank you so much to both of you. just so we can before we get into the meat and potatoes, can we all agree that everyone has a certain degree of prejudice whether it's genss skin color or weight or sex or socio-economic status that we all have that voice of stereo type? >> i think we need context but yes, everybody has -- brings judgment to each situation. >> that's a perfect way to put it. here is the difference. rachel, i will begin with you. vocalizing those judgments, nougts, pubically, the real question here, should you be punished for it? >> it's not a question of being
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punished. there is -- freedom of speech does not mean freedom from criticism. i think that if mark cuban expects to speak without -- it does not sound like he had a lot of considered thought. there is nothing brave or plunt about him saying a black kid in a hoodie being dangerous. there is a much narrower band applied to a black kid wearing an article of clothing than there is to someone with a shaved head and tattoos all over their body and face. it's a very different standard of behavior. but the criminalization of black kids wearing hoodies is pretty dangero dangerous. we have seen how dangerous it is because the kids are then held out as being perceived as threats for people who can get
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away with. >> are we alluding to treyvon martin. but he also mentioned white guys with tattoos and skin heads, but you, too, you echo what was the word you used with me? you are disturbed by cuban's comments as well? >> well, you know, i went to the gym this morning and i wore a hoodie, and i hate the idea that i would automatically be compared to a skin head with tattoos on his face that somehow i would be deemed to be a thread to someone because i was wearing a hoodie. i think black men have the right to wear them if anyone else does. why was cuban doing this interview? what disturbs me the most is not so much what he said about the hoodie. people have a right to have opinions and that's something we agree on. what disturbs me is if you listen to most of what cuban says it leads to the conclusion
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that donald sterling deserves to maintain ownership of the la clippers. so there you're going from relatively harmless race-based thoughts or some sort of discrimination that a regular citizen has a right to have inside their own mind to a person being kept in a position of power where they then have the ability to hire and fire people of color and the ability to do what donaldstering has done. and keeping them from having the right to own homes and to get jobs and really making their lives a living hell. i think we all agree that sterling has the right to be who he wants to be. all of those things are available to him. >> listen, i don't think this is about people in hoodies, but part of the conversation is the mess that we have all been covering when it comes to the la clippers.
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what i find absolutely wild, rachel, is that cuban would say this in the middle of the scandal because he has this vote coming up and i'm left watching the video, i'm -- i still don't know which way he'll vote. >> i think it seemed like he was rolling back the criticism of donald sterling saying look, sterling just put it out there but we all think that and so i hesitate to judge him that much. and that is backwards. >> he said we're all bigots. >> if he wants to say that and lay claim to such basic unexamined stereo types that should indicate that we need to be examining more closely. so we can say yes there is bias.
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we know that. let's say a rich white man like mark cuban who travels in insulated circles in the same interview where these comments went wild he talked about how good it felt to buy a $41 million plane, you can note that that should not be the class of people who get to then determine how the acceptable behavior for everyone else. i strongly push back against any characterization of a black kid in a hoodie as being dangerous. that is a slippery slope. >> isn't he saying, you know, throwing stones and i'm in a glass house, to your point, rachel, and at the end he's saying i'm an entrepreneur and we all have to find solutions. i don't have him sitting here so i needed to provide more of his point. let me hear from you for the
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final word. >> that's a different thing and then to provide power behind those actions where you then have the ability to harm countless numbers of people, that is stepping it up. what i say is that it's not a matter of being angry. i'm not mad at him for being an 80-year-old man. but what i do find objectionable is him having the ability to affect the lives of people of color. that's what it all boils down to. >> smart conversation. prosecutors will release a note that they say the boston bomber wrote. what he wrote abiliout the atta and his brother. we will have that for you next on cnn.
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this off alone? jake tapper is joining me from washington, host of "the lead." the prosecutors, jake, they are insinuating that it would have been hard for these two to build these two pressure cooker bombs alone. >> that's correct. when i spoke with ed davis and asked whether the tsarnaev brothers were sophisticated enough to build these devices, he seemed very skeptical and others are very skeptical that the two would have been able to do this on their own, just by reading instructions, for example, off the web. something else interesting in the prosecution documents that you alluded to, brooke, or comments that the younger tsarnaev wrote in that book, "god has a plan for each person. mine was to hide in this boat and she had some light on some actions." he also spoke about the
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motivation behind his actions and that is that the u.s. is killing our innocent civilians. we muslims are one body. you hurt one, you hurt us all. >> we'll look for more on that and more on "the lead" in the next hour. jake tapper, thanks very much. and up next, a remarkable rescue. a baby, look at this, falls out of a second story window. two men wait below and catch. thank goodness. we'll tell you what led up to this rescue. plus, we've been waiting for this. the surprise of a lifetime. a high school graduation after years of searching, a girl meets the man who saved her life as an itty bitty baby. he gives her a present that reminds her forever of his heroics. that's next.
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a horrible beginning as turned into a story of reunion. skyler was abandoned and then was miraculously found by a firefighter. fast forward 18 years and skyler is graduating high school and guess who was at the ceremony? the firefighter who saved her life. >> they took me over to charlie and charlie introduced himself to me and told me the whole story again. i was totally shocked. and it's something that i've dreamed of since i was a little kid and it's amazing. >> joining me now, that amazing man. charlie, just seeing the smile on her face, take me back to the phone call that you recently got at the firestation and then the voice on the other end. >> it was skyler's mother. she had called and asked if i
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remembered rescuing an infant back in 1995. i told her yes. and she told me, well, that's my adoptive daughter and she's graduating high school and we'd like you to be there. >> you were there and we'll get to that and what you gave her. but back in 1995, i understand that you were sitting there, listening to scanner traffic. some of the crews had gone to this one cemetery, didn't find a newborn and you, instead, think, i think i know where to look. you get to the cemetery and then you almost leave. is that right? >> yeah. i walked around the tree that she was described to have been abandoned and didn't see anything. and walked away. got to my truck and turned around and something told me to go look one more time. as i walked up to the tree, i heard a whimper come from under the tree.
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my heart just sank. >> what kind of condition was she in? >> she was literally newborn. she still had bloody mucous all over her. she had a 2 or 3-inch umbilical cord tied with a shoelace and was wrapped in a blanket. >> she was a newborn. there you are. you sweep in, rescue her, she ends up being adopted some days later. fast forward 18 years, you get this phone call from her adopted mother and can you just tell me what it was like seeing this young woman at graduation? what did you say to her and what did she say to you? >> i didn't actually meet her at graduation. i went to her graduation to take pictures and met her at her graduation party the next -- two days later. i asked her if she remembered our meeting back in 1995 and she didn't. but after i told her how we met,
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then she knew who i was and tears shedding in the entire room. >> goodness. did i hear correctly you actually held on to that same shirt you were wearing that day and you gave it to her? >> yeah. it was about 20 below windchill and we had several layers of clothing on while we were out working and that's when i heard the call and the shirt that i kept her close to me with, to keep her warm, i gave to her. >> how special is that. charlie heflin, thank you so much for joining me. we wish skyler well post graduation. thank you, charlie. before i go, we're getting this amazing footage of the baby falling. there it goes. coming out of the second story window. despite the rain, the man caught the baby. all of this playing out.
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you see the drips in the middle of a thunderstorm. the man said it was human instinct to run over and try to catch the child. and there you have it. i'm brooke baldwin. thank you so much for joining me. we'll see you back here for our friday. to washington, we go. "the lead" can jake tapper starts right now. as of now, zero containment. a wildfire spreading incredibly fast through arizona i'm jake tapper. this is "the lead". >> the national lead. thousands ready to evacuate with flames creeping towards their doorsteps. a wildfire in arizona, big and only getting bigger. burning more than seven square miles in a single day. the politics lead. how can anyone miss you if it you never went away. hillary clinton looking more inevitable for the 2016 presidential race. a progressive may take her on. in the money lead, the
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