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fire and rescue. >> 6600 sea harbor drive. >> okay. seaworld stadium. >> we actually have a trainer in the water with one of our whales, the whales that we're not supposed to be in the water with. >> okay, we'll get somebody enroute. >> at gate 3. >> orange county sheriff's office. >> we need a response for a dead person at seaworld. a whale has hurt one of the trainers. >> a whale ate one of the
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trainers? >> that is correct. >> do you believe? >> my parents first brought me to a seaworld park when i was very young. from that point forward i was hooked. it meant everything to me because you know, i had never wanted anything more. >> i remember being you know probably in first or second grade watching national geographic specials, i remember being a little kid being inspired. i grew up in new york.
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>> i grew up around the middle of the country in flat land, kansas. >> from virginia, traveled down, did the theme park thing in orlando when i was 17. and i saw the night show at the stadium. very emotional. you know. popular music and i was just very driven to want to do that. >> and i saw what the trainers did. and i said that is what i want to do. >> one of the trainers there goes what are you doing out there? you should be a trainer. >> i said i don't know how to train animals, i never trained them in my life. >> how do you train yourself for the encounter with the orca. >> i always thought you needed a master's degree to be a trainer. >> it takes years of study to interact in the water with
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shamu. >> come to find out it really is more about your personality and how good you can swim. >> i went and tried out. got the job right away. i was so so excited. >> i really wanted to be there and do a job. i couldn't wait to get in the water with the animals. i really was proud of being a seaworld trainer. i thought this was the most amazing job. >> i showed up there on my first day not really knowing what to expect. i was told to put on a wet suit and get in the water. >> hi, mom. >> i was scared out of my wits. >> first of all i put my wet suit on back wards because i was raised on a farm in virginia. my first thought and memory of that time was that dolphins are a lot bigger than they look when you get in the water next to them. >> well, i watched the sea lion show. this guy, mark morocco, he comes out during the show with the dress on as dorky, the alter ego
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of dorothy, and i thought i well never do that. two months later, hi, i'm dorky, walking out on the stage with the sea lion. >> i was overwhelmed and i was so excited. i mean, just seeing the killer whale is just breathtaking. >> i was just in awe, it is shocking to see how large they are and how beautiful they are. >> being in the presence of the killer whales is just inspiring and amazing. i remember seeing them for the first time just not being able to believe how huge they are. you're there because you want to train killer whales and that is your goal. i didn't know it was going to happen so i was not expecting it. and one day they say okay, sam,
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you're ready to go. you're going to stay on the whale. you're going to dive off the whale. the whale is going to swim under you and pick you up again. and then you're going to do a perimeter ride around the pool. they just told me to go do it and i did it. wow. i just rode a killer whale. >> when you look into their eyes you know somebody is home. somebody is looking back. you form a very personality relationship with your animal. >> there is something absolutely amazing about working with an animal. you are a team. and you build a relationship together. and you both understand the goal. and you help each other. >> i have been with this whale since i was 18 years old. i have seen it have all four
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babies. we've grown up together. >> that is the joy i got out of it. just a relationship like i have never had. >> i have to know, are you nervous? >> i'm scared. >> no. >> going to go over there. >> that is fine. >> to be my supervisor. there you go. >> i knew dawn when she was new. she was a great person to work with. and she obviously blossomed into seaworld's best trainers.
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>> this is dawn brancheau, the senior trainer here. >> i guess you could say i knew dawn in a past life. >> it is a tough job, isn't it? >> yeah, we really do go through a lot of exertion. they're giving out a lot of energy, too, but we're working together as well. >> she is beautiful, blonde, athletic, friendly, you know, everybody loves dawn. >> and i mean this so sincerely, watching you perform yesterday, you're amazing. you really are. >> she captured what it means to be a seaworld trainer. she had so much experience that it made me realize that what happened to her really could have happened to anyone. >> this is detective rivera, today is february 24th, 2010, the time is 4:16. in the room with me right now is thomas tobin, is that correct? >> correct. >> did you see any blood in the
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water or anything like that? >> well, she was scalped. and there was no blood. so pretty much we knew then that the heart was not beating. >> once he pulled away -- he never let go of the arm? >> he swallowed it. >> so the arm is nowhere -- >> right. >> on behalf of the federal government, basically suggesting that swimming with orcas is inherently dangerous and you can't completely predict the water or their environment. >> stay at a proximity with the animals and you won't get killed. >> it will have a ripple effect through the whole industry. this is national headline news. >> seaworld's whale performances may never be the same. >> right now the theme park is arguing with the court to keep
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the whale train eers in the wat something that osha says is extremely dangerous. >> we don't speak whale or tiger or monkey. >> and tempers flared, when they suggested that seaworld only made changes when dawn brancheau's death only outraged the public. >> being in close proximity to these top predators is too dangerous. they wouldn't be then getting in the water, riding on the whales, things like that. >> if you were in a bathtub for 25 years don't you think you would get a little irritated, aggravated, maybe a little psychotic? >> the situation with dawn brancheau, it didn't just happen. it is not a singular event. you have to go back over 20 years to understand this.
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>> it was a really exciting thing to do until -- everybody wanted to do it. >> what were they telling you that you were going to do? >> capture orcas. >> they have had aircraft. they have had spotters and speed boats and bombs they were throwing in the water. they were light iing their bomb with the torches in their boats and throwing them as fast as they could to herd the whales into coves. but the orcas had been caught before and they knew what was going on and they knew their young ones would be taken from them. so the adults without young went into the east with the cul-de-sac. and the boats followed them thinking they would go that way. well, the mothers with babies went north but the capture team s had aircraft. and they have to come up for air
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eventually. and when they did, the capture teams alerted the boats and said oh, no, they're going north, the ones with babies. so the boats, the speed boats caught them there and herded them in and then they had fishing boats with the nets that they would stretch across so none could leave. and then they could just pick out the young ones. a. >> we were only after the little ones. and the little ones, you know, they're big animals still. but i was told because of shipping costs that is why you only take the little ones. >> they had the young one that is they wanted in the corrals so they dropped the nets. and all the others could have left. but they stayed. >> we're there trying to get the young orca in the stretcher and the whole family is out here 25
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yards away. in a big line. and they're communicating back and forth. well, you understand then what you're doing. you know? i lost it. i mean, i just started crying. i didn't stop working. but you know, i just couldn't handle it. and it was like kidnapping a little kid away from her mother. everybody is watching, what can you do? but the worst thing i can think of. you know, i can't think of anything worse than that. now, it just really sounds bad, but when the whole hunt was over there were three dead whales in
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the net. and so they had peter and brian and i cut the whales open. fill them with rocks and put anchors on their tail and sink them. well, really, i didn't even think about it being illegal at that point. i thought it was a pr thing. >> they were finally ejected from the state of washington by a court order in 1976. it was seaworld by name that was told do not come back to washington to capture whales. without missing a beat they went from washington to iceland and began capturing there. >> they have been part of the revolution to change the precedent in central and south
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>> i had actually seen tilicum quite a number of times. he was right across the street here in victoria. all sealand was, was a net hanging in a marina with a float hanging around it. >> tilicum was the one we loved working with. he was eager to please. >> when we started it was fine, the treatment involved punishment, with a trained orca up with tilicum with a trained orca, if he didn't do it, both animals were punished. deprived of food to keep them hungry, this caused a lot of frustration with the larger animal who would then get frustrated with tilicum, who would rake him with his teeth. there would be times that he
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would be covered with rakes. ra rakes are teeth on teeth, you could see blood and scratches and he would just be raked up. >> both females would gang up on him. >> tilicum was the one we trusted. we never were concerned about him. the issue was we stored the whales at night in what we called a module, which was 20 feet across and probably 30 feet deep as a safety precaution because we were worried about people cutting the net and letting them go. the lights were out, there was really no stimulation, they were in this 20 x 30 foot pool for 2/3 of their life. >> when we first started they were quite small and young, so they fit in there quite nicely. but they were immobile for the most part. >> it didn't feel good. it just didn't. it was just wrong.
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we started having difficulty getting them all into this one small steel box to be honest. that is what it was, a floating steel box. that is where the food depriving would come in. we would hold back food, and they would know if they were in the module, they would get their food. >> during the winter it would be 5:00 at night until 7:00. >> when we let them out, sometimes you would see blood and teeth rakes. >> closing the door on them, knowing he was in there for the whole night is like -- whoa, if that is true, it is not only you know, inhumane and i'll tell them so but it probably led to what i think is a psychosis that he was on a hair trigger. he would kill.
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>> an employee is dead. >> at a canadian park called sealand of the pacific. >> the victim was a champion swimmer and part-time worker at seaworld. >> as seen here, the rescuers used a huge net. >> i would like to take time this summer, but my more immediate goal is just to swim fast at nationals. >> it was sort of a cloudy, gray day. and we were looking for something to do. so we thought why not go to sealand. it was kind of like this dingy pool with these whales. >> it just felt a little like an amusement park, where everything was kind of a bit gray. >> it was like a swimming pool. three whales in a swimming pool. >> and they would come up and touch the ball. i think there was some tail
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splashing and there was -- >> some jumping. >> with the fish. >> they hold the fish and the whales jump up. i remember saying what a fun job. you know? she is so lucky. and then i saw her walking with her rubber boots and she tripped and her foot just dipped into the edge of the pool and she lost her balance and fell in. and then she was pushing her way up to get out of the pool and the whale zoomed over, grabbed her boot and pulled her back in. at first i didn't think it was that serious because you see -- you see the trainer in the pool with the whale and i think oh well, the whales are used to that. you know, and then all of a sudden you started getting -- there was more swimming, more activity, more thrashing, and she was starting to get panicked. and as it progressed you started to realize something is not right here. >> she started to scream and started looking around and her
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eyes were like bigger and bigger and realizing that i really am in trouble here. >> and then, they would pull her under. and then they would come up and then when they came up she would be help me, help me, and then they would take her down again. >> and then she would be submerged for several seconds up to maybe a minute. you're not keeping track. >> so you know it was harder and harder for her to you know, to get the air in because she was screaming. and my sister remembers her saying i don't want to die. >> well, the family -- condolences to her family -- >> yeah, that we couldn't help her. >> seaworld closed. it is probably a good thing. it was a little pond. and i think the owner, you know, made the right decision for whatever reasons.
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i don't believe he is a bad guy. a bad man. i think he was shocked by the whole affair, too. >> the blush was gone from the business. and he decided that, that was it. we should set down. >> and no one ever contacted us. there was an inquest. no one were asked us to say what happened. you know, we just left. >> and there was no big lawsuits afterwards and there is no memorial. and you know, the only thing remaining of kelty burn is you know, what is left in the folks' minds who recall the case. >> so in the newspaper articles, the cause of death was that she drowned accidentally. but you know, she was pulled under by the whale. >> well, there is a bit of smoke and mirrors going on. one of the fundamental facts is that none of the witnesses were clear about which whale pulled kelty in. >> yeah, it was the large whale, tilicum, the male is the one that went after her and the
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other two just kind of circled around. but he definitely was the instigator. and we knew he was that whale because he had the flopped over fin, like it was very easy to tell. >> sea land of the pacific closed its doors and was looking to i guess make a buck on the way out. and these whales were worth millions. >> when seaworld learned this whale was available after sea land of the pacific they really wanted tilicum because they wanted a breeder. i don't think anybody was questioning, is this a good idea. >> my understanding of the situation was that tilicum and others would not be used in show or performance animals. our understanding of their behavior is that it was such a likely stimulating event for them was they were likely to repeat it. >> we were a bit of sea cowboys, we all had this vision that they knew more than us and they were
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instinct for vengeance. >> if you go back only 35 years, we knew nothing, in fact less than nothing. what the public had was supp superstition and fear. >> these were the vicious killer whales that you know had 48 sharp teeth that would rip you to shreds if they got a chance. what we learned is that they're amazingly friendly. and understanding and intuitive. they want to be your companion. and to this day, there is no record of an orca doing any harm to any human in the wild.
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they live in these big families. and they have life spans very similar to human life spans. the humans can live to about 100, maybe more, males to about 50 or 60. but the adult offspring never leave their mother's side. each community has a completely different set of behaviors. each has a complete repertoire of vocalizations with no overlap. the community is reluctant to say any other animal but humans uses any language, but there is every indication they use languages. >> the orca brain just screams out intelligence, awareness.
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we took this tremendous brain and we put it in a magnetic resonance imaging scanner. what we found was just astounding. they have a part of the brain that humans don't have. a part of their brain has extended out right adjacent to their lymbic system. the system that processes emotions. the safest inference would be these are animals that highly elaborate emotional lives. it is becoming true that dolphins and whales have a sense of self, a sense of social bonding that they have taken to another level, much stronger and much more complex than other mammals, including humans. we look at the fact that they stand by each other. everything about them is social. everything. it has been suggested that their whole sense of self is distributed among the
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individuals in their group. >> five of them -- >> these orcas, sea lion -- i've been swimming around him. >> here they come, too, you can see them underneath. they made a big wave. look at that. a big wave. oh, yeah. >> if you can't watch the bull fight you better leave. okay, here they go. look at this. three of them. it's all over. yeah, it's all over. >> it's all over. first nation's people and the
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old fishermen on the coast, they call them blackfish. they're an animal that possesses great spiritual power. and not to be milled with. i've spent a lot of time around killer whales and they're always in charge. i never get out of the boat. i never mess with them. the speed and the power is quite amazing. rules are the same as the pool hall, with one foot on the floor at all times. even after seeing them lots of times, you see them and you still -- wake up.
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he arrived, i think, in 1992. i was at whale and dolphin stadium when he arrived. and he is twice and large as the next animal in the facility. right at about 12,000 pounds. that is incredible. >> he looks fantastic. >> when tilicum arrived at seaworld he was attacked viciously, repeatedly by katina and others. in the wild, the male whales are kept at the perimeter in captivety, tilicum, the poor guy
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is so large because he couldn't get away, just is not as mobile next to the smaller, more agile females. and where was he going to run? >> i think he spent a lot of times in isolation. and seaworld claims no, he is always with the other females. from what i saw he was mostly put with the females for breeding purposes and didn't spend a lot of times with the other whales. >> it is for his own protection. he gets beat up. and so by segregating him it provides a physical barrier so the females can't kick his butt. >> tilicum is pretty much kept in the back and then brought out at the very end as like the big splas splash. >> he was always happy to see you in the morning. maybe because he was alone. maybe because he was hungry or maybe because he just liked you.
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who knew what was going on in his head? >> really loud. >> he seemed to like to work. he seemed to be interested. he seemed to want to learn new things. he seemed to be enjoying, you know, working with the trainers. >> he, for me, was a joy. he really responded to me and i you know, every day i went to work i was happy to see tilly. >> that is cute. >> you're being too cute. >> i never got the impression of him while i was there that you know, oh, my god. he is the scary whale. you know, not at all. >> maybe some of it is just our naivety, or whatever. because we were not given the full details of kelty's
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situation. >> i was under the impression that tilicum had nothing to do with her death, specifically that it was the females responsible for her death. what i found really odd was the way they were acting around this whale and what they told us seemed to be two different things. the first day he arrived, i remember one of thoe trainers a seaworld, she was walking over a gate and had her shirt around her waist, and was making noises, tilicum, what a cute little whale. and one of the supervisors said get her out of there. and just screamed at her. get her away from there, like they were so worried that something was going to happen. and i remember thinking why are you guys making such a big deal out of this when he did not actually kill her? well, clearly management thought there was some reason to exercise caution around him. clearly they knew more than they were telling us.
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>> ladies and gentlemen, the next behaviors you're going to see you can only see right here at seaworld. >> jeff was out in the audience filming one of the shamu shows. it was a perfect show, all the hot dog sequences, the water works sequences went off great. >> i was really excited to be capturing this. because it was kind of turning out to be a great show. a show is kind of complete. it doesn't -- it probably only happens a few times a week. >> at the very end of the show, liz was working tilicum, and apparently he lunged out of the water at her. >> and i captured tilicum coming out of the water side ways and appeared to me to try to grab liz. and at that moment, the tape became unusable. i was kind of basically structured to get rid of the tape. wanting to preserve the tape i used the editing equipment to
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. it is pretty outrageous that seaworld would claim there is no expecting tilicum coming out of the water because they had witnessed him coming out of the water. and it is witnessed in his profile. he lunges at trainers. >> when you visit seaworld you take for granted that shamu has provided a safe and comfortable habitat. >> i spewed out the party line
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during shows. i'm totally mortified there was now something like that look at namu, and namu is not doing that because she has to. >> namu is doing this because she really wants to. >> oh, my gosh, like some of the thing things i'm embarrassed by, so embarrassed by. at the time i think i could have convinced myself that the relationships we had were built on something stronger than the fact that i'm giving them fish. you know i like to think that. but i don't know that that's the truth. i saw some other things along wait that made me question why i was there and what we were doing with these animals. >> 1988, a killer whale at sea world gave the performance of a lifetime.
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come see our new baby shamu. >> i know it was naive of me, but i thought it was our responsibility to do as much as we could to keep their family unit together since we know in the wild that's what happens. kalena was the first baby shamu. she had been quite disruptive and challenging her mom a little bit and disrupting some shows and that kind of thing. ♪ shamu, she's our baby whale ♪ . >> it was decided by the hire-ups that she would be moved to another park and that was news to us as trainers.
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to me, it never crossed my mind that they might be moving the baby from her mom. the supervisors basically was kind of mocking me like, oh, you're saying poor kalina. you know, what's she going to do without her mommy? and you know, and that of course just shut me up. so the night of the move we today deploy the nets to separate them and get the baby into the med pool. and katina was generally a quiet whale, not an overly vocal whale. after kalina was removed from the scene and put on the truck and taken to the airport and katina, her mom, was left in the pool. she stayed in the corner of the pool. like literally just shaking. and screaming, screeching, crying, like i had never seen her do anything like that. and the other females in the
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pool, maybe once or twice during the night, they would come out and check on her and she's screeching crying and they would just run back. there is nothing that you could call that watching it besides grief. >> those are not your whales, you know, you love them and you think, i'm the one that touches them. feeds them. keeps them alive. gives them the care that they need. they aren't your whales. they own them. kazaka and takara were very close. kazaka was the mother. takara was the calf. takara was special to me. they were inseparable. when they separated them, it was to take takara it florida. once takara had already been stretchered out of the pool, put on the truck, driven to the airport, kasaka continued to
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make the vocals that had never been heard before. they brought in the senior research scientists to analyze the vocals. they were long-range voc yls. she was trying something that no one had even heard before, looking for takara. that's heart breaking. how can anyone look at that and think that that is morally acceptable. it's not. it is not okay. okay, listen up! i'm re-workin' the menu.
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standby, dean. >> let's go live to seaworld where dean gomersoll is joining us for a sneak peek. hi, dean. tell us about the new show. >> good afternoon, richard. the new show is whale and dolphin discovery. what it does is it shows the relationship we have between all our animals here -- >> there's so many things that were told to us. they tell you so many times that you start believing it, you know. >> all the animals here get
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along very well. it's just like training your dog really. >> i was blind really. i was a kid. i didn't know what i was doing really. >> nice. good job. you did a real good job. ♪ >> ladies and gentlemen, this a david from maryland. go ahead and wave at everyone, david. >> i just really bought into what they told us. you know, i learned to say what they told us to the audience. >> hello out there. children are some of shamu's biggest fans. we can do just about anything we want. i thought i knew everything about killer whales when i worked there and everything about these animals. i really know nothing about killer whales. i know a lot about being a killer whale trainer, but i don't know anything about these animals' natural history or their behavior. i really in some ways believed a lot of what i was learning from them because why would they lie? >> because the whales in their pools die young, they like to say that all orcas die at 25 or 30 years. >> 25 to 35 years. >> they're documented in the wild living to be about 35, mid-30s.
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they tend to live longer in this environment because they have all the veterinary care. >> and of course that's false. we knew by 1980 after half a dozen years of research that they live equivalent to human life spans. and every other potentially embarrassing fact is twisted and turned and denied one way or another. >> so in the wild they live less. >> like the floppy dorsal fins. >> 25% of whales have a fin that turns over like that as they get older. >> dorsal collapse happens in less than 1% of wild killer whales. we know this. all the captive males, 100% have collapsed dorsal fins, and they say that they're a family. that the whales are in their family. they have their pods, but that's just, you know, an artificial assemblage of their collection. however management decides they should mix them and whichever ones happen to be born or bought or brought in. that's not a family. you know?
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come on. >> you've got animals from different cultural subsets that have been brought in from various parks. these are different nations. these aren't two different killer whales. these animals, they've got different genes. they use different languages. >> well, what can happen as a result of them being thrown in with other whales that they haven't grown up with, that are not part of their culture is there's hyperaggression. a lot of violence, a lot of killing in captivity that you don't ever see in the wild. >> for the health and safety of the animals, please do not put your hands in the water. >> there's always this backdrop. this underpinning of tension between animals. whale-on-whale aggression was just part of your -- you know, the daily existence. >> we ask that you use the stairs and aisle ways as you exit. please do not step on the seats. these areas may become wet, and therefore slippery to some
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footwear. thank you. ♪ >> in the wild when there's tension they have thousands of square miles to exit the scene and they can get away. you don't have that in captivity. could you imagine being in a small concrete enclosure for your life when you're used to swimming 100 miles a day? >> sometimes this aggression became very severe, and in fact whales have died in captivity because of this aggression. >> i think it was 1988 kandu tried to assert her dominance over corky. rammed corky. it fractured her jaw, which cut an artery in her head, and then she bled out. that's got to be a hard way to go down. i saw there was just a lot of things that weren't right. and there was a lot of
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misinformation and something was amiss. and i sort of compartmentalized that part of it and did the best i could with the knowledge that i had. to take care of the animals that were there. and i think all the trainers there have the same thing in their heart. they're trying to make a difference in the lives of the animals. they think if i leave, who is going to take care of tilikum? that's why i stayed. i felt sorry for tilikum. i mean, if you want to get down to the nuts and bolts of it, i stayed because i felt sorry for tilikum, and i couldn't bring myself to stop coming and trying to take care of him. ♪ >> gosh, do i love coming out here every day and having the audience just love what we're doing with the animals.
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how do i make the audience know how beautiful the animal is? and they're touched and moved. and i feel like i made a difference too. >> i left in january of 2010, a month before dawn passed away. she was, like, a safety guru. i mean, she was always double checking and making sure that everyone was doing the right thing. so i remember she would record every show that she did and she would watch it and critique herself. and she was constantly trying to be better. when i found out it was dawn, i was shocked. that could have been me. i could have been the spotter. what if i was there and i could have saved her? you know, all these things go through your mind. >> john sillick was the guy who in 1987 was crushed between two whales at seaworld of san diego. now even though i had been working at seaworld for six
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months, i had no idea that had even happened. i never heard the story. and the seaworld party line would say it was a trainer error. >> it was john's fault. john's fault. he was supposed to get off that whale. and for years i believed that. i told people that. i actually started seaworld like five days after that event occurred, and we weren't told much about it, other than it was trainer error, and, you know, especially when you're new into the program, you don't really question a whole lot. well, you know, years later when you actually look at the footage, you go, you know what, he didn't do anything wrong. that whale went to the wrong spot. it could have been aggression. who knows. but it was not the trainer's fault at all watching that video. >> when i saw the video of the killer whale landing on john, i
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mean, it just absolutely took my breath away. i gasped. i watched it two or three times. every time i saw that i gasped. i could not believe what i was seeing. what kept his body together is basically his wet suit held him together. but i know he's had multiple surgeries and he's got tons of hardware in his body and it's hard for me to believe i didn't actually see that video while i was actually an animal trainer. it seems to me every person who works with killer whales should have to watch that video. >> tamary. you know, tamary made mistakes. the most important was interacting with whales without a spotter. so she's putting her foot on orchid. she's taking her foot off. she's putting her foot on orchid, she's taking it off. watching the video and knowing orchid, your stomach drops. because you probably know what's probably going to happen. she grabbed her foot. tamary whips around and she grabs the gate.
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you see her just ripped from the gate. at this point tamary knows that she's in trouble. she's under the water. splash and orchid both have her. she's totally out of view. no other trainer knows this is happening. people start to scream, you know, as the park guest that was filming it. you hear -- you don't see her -- but you hear tamary surface. you hear her just scream out, somebody help me. and the way she screamed it was such a blood curdling -- like she knew she was going to die. robin, when he ran over, he made a brilliant decision. he told the trainer to run and take the chain off kastka's gate. by taking that chain off it would give the precursor to orchid that kastka is coming in. kastka is more dominant than orchid, so orchid let her go. her arm, it was u-shaped.
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it was compound fractured. she's very lucky to be alive, that's for sure. ♪ >> i believe it's 70-plus, maybe even more, just killer whale trainer accidents. maybe 30 of them happened prior to me actually being hired at seaworld. and i knew about none of them. >> i've seen animals come out at trainers. >> something is wrong. >> i've seen people get slammed.
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>> the whales, they're just playing or they're upset for a second. it was just something that happened, you know. >> it's culture of you get back on the horse and you dive back in the water, and if you're hurt, well, then we've got other people that will replace you. and you came a long way. you sure you want that? >> a seaworld trainer is recovering today after a terrifying ordeal in front of a horrified audience. ♪
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>> for some reason, the whale just took a different approach to what it was going to do with a very senior, very experienced trainer, ken peters and drug him to the bottom of the pool and held him at the bottom, let him go. picked him up, took him down again. and these periods he was taken down were pretty close to the mark. you know, a minute, a minute 20. when he was at the surface, he didn't panic. he didn't thrash.
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he didn't scream. maybe he's just built that way, but he stroked the whale. and the whale let go of one foot and grabbed the other. >> that's a pretty deep pool, and he took him right down. i think that's to two atmospheres pressure. apparently mr. peters is an experienced scuba diver. i think that knowledge probably contributed how he was able to be hauled down there that quickly and stay calm and know what to do. he knew what he was doing because when you can see him in the film, you can see him ventilating. you can see him ventilating really hard. he knows about swimming and diving and being underwater. he may have been assuming he was going underwater again. i did not walk away unimpressed by his calm demeanor during that
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over the float line, and swam like a demon to a slide out because the whale was coming right behind him. the whale jumped over it and kept right after him. he tried to stand up and run but his feet were damaged. he scrambled. and they take this as a prime example of their training working. and they say stand back and stay calm. and that did work. they claim this is a victory of how they do business. and maybe so. but it can also be interpreted as a hair's breadth away from another fatality. amam rich.
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hi, shamu. hi, everybody. we're the johnsons from detroit, michigan. we sure had a great time when we visited seaworld. it's one of our favorite places. >> yeah, i like when shamu gets everybody wet. >> when the whales get up close to the glass, start kicking up the water, whammo, you're a goner. ♪ >> orange county sheriff deputies have identified the 27-year-old man found dead in a killer whale's tank at seaworld. the victim is daniel p. dukes from south carolina. dukes was found yesterday draped over the back of tilikum, the largest orca held in captivity. >> all i know is the public relations version of it. he was a young man that had been
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arrested not long before he snuck into seaworld. maybe he climbed the barbed wire fence around the perimeter and stayed after hours. >> perfect story line. a mentally disturbed guy hides in the park after hours and strips his clothes off and decides he wants to have a magical experience with an orca and drowns because he became hypothermic. right. so that's the story line and none of us were there to know the difference. >> he was not detected by the night watch trainers who were presumably at that station. >> there are cameras all over seaworld. there are cameras all over the back of shamu stadium pointing every which way. there are underwater cameras. i find it hard to believe that nobody knew until the morning that there was a body in there. they have a night watch trainer every night. that person didn't hear any slashing or screaming? i mean, i just find that really suspicious. >> one of the employees, i don't know if it was a physical therapist or somebody was coming
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in in the morning, and there was tilikum with a dead naked guy on his back, kind of parading him around the back pool. the public relation spin on this was he was a drifter and died of hypothermia, but the medical examiner reports were more graphic than that. for example, tilikum stripped him, bit off his genitals. there was bite marks all over his body. >> now, whether that was post-death or pre-death, i don't know. but all i can comment on is that the guy definitely jumped in the wrong pool. ♪ >> so why keep tilikum there? this guy has a proven track record of killing people. he's clearly a liability to the institution. why keep him around? well, it's quite simple to
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answer, and that is that his semon is worth a lot of money. >> over the years tilikum has been one of the main breeding whales at seaworld. which is brilliant because they can inseminate way more female whales because they can get his sperm and freeze it and he's basically operating as a sperm bank. in a reputable breeding program, rule number one is you certainly would not breed an animal that has shown a history of aggression towards humans. imagine if you had a pit bull who had killed. that animal would have likely been put down. but in the entire seaworld collection, it's like 54% of the whales in seaworld's collection now have tilikum's genes.
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>> the fall is to assume all killer whales are like tilikum. you have to look at their learning history from birth. you have to understand why tilikum was a hazard to anybody in the water. and you have to understand none of the other killer whales at seaworld in that system are that way. >> what about the incident at loro parque? >> first of all, i can't speak with specificity about loro parque. i wasn't there. in fact, i know very little about it, probably, about as much as the general public knows. ♪ [ speaking in foreign language ]
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four young orcas to a park off the west coast of africa with trainers who a lot of them had never been around orcas before. nothing was ready. the venue wasn't ready. it wasn't ready for the orcas. it wasn't ready for a show. the owner didn't want to lose revenue by shutting down the pools and repairing them. so for three years the animals ate the pools and they had problems with their teeth and stomachs. this is why they're in endoscope procedures. those are still seaworld's animals, and they are responsible for those animals. what if a park doesn't have a good reputation? people that work in the business
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know the reputations of places. and loro parque didn't have a good reputation. they did not go through the same regimen the seaworld trainers went through. and alexis really was the best trainer. i said you're the only trainer there that can hold his own with a seaworld trainer. but i said, you know, you need to be careful. [ speaking in foreign language ] >> anywhere along the line it could have been stopped because
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that's why all our interactions are very carefully thought out. especially our waterwork interaction. whoa! [ applause ] you big, dork. especially our waterwork interactions because they're potentially the most dangerous. >> i've been expecting it since the second person was killed. i've been expecting somebody to be killed by tilikum. i'm surprised it took as long as it did. >> first tonight, a six-ton killer whale has lived up to his name killing an experienced trainer at seaworld orlando today. >> a tourist at an earlier show said the whale seemed agitated. >> trainers complained the whales weren't cooperating. >> the whole show, the main show was a disaster that day. >> there were whales chasing each other. and eventually the trainers thought they had to stop the show because they couldn't get
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the whales under control. >> tilikum was in the back pool set up to do a dive shamu performance with dawn. >> likely she saw what had gone on during the main show, and so she had probably felt more pressure to do a good show. when you watch the whole video, you can see that tilikum is actually really with dawn in the beginning of the video. there's a couple of behaviors she asked him to do where tilikum jumps right in and does exactly what she asks him to do. >> we're going to show you how agile these guys are. >> there seemed to be a point in the session where things went south, so to speak. and my humble opinion, it was at that missed bridge -- whistle bridge on the perimeter peck wave. >> she asked him to basically go all the way around the pool and wave his pectoral flipper.
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and she blows her whistle, which is a bridge which tells the animal you've done a good job. come back and get food. but he missed that cue. and he went all the way around the pool on this perimeter peck wave. >> my interpretation is that he didn't hear the whistle. >> so not only did he not hear the bridge, then he went and did a perfect behavior and came back, and what he got was what we call a three-second neutral response. which is a way to let the animal know you didn't do the correct thing. you're not going to get rewarded. and then we're going to move on. then you can also see through the video that dawn is running out of food. >> the animals can sense when you're getting to the bottom of your bucket of fish because they can hear the ice clanging around and the souping water at the bottom. and the handfuls of fish they're
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getting delivered by the trainer are all getting smaller. so they know they're coming down to the end of session. >> when you see the difference between the beginning of the video and the end of the video, you can see that he's just not quite on his game anymore. >> there's no food left. she kept asking him for more and more behaviors. he wasn't getting reinforced for the behaviors he was doing correctly. he probably was frustrated towards the end. >> then she walked around the perimeter of g-pool. he followed her. and then continued over into the rocky ledge area where she laid down with him to do a relationship session, which is quiet time, basically. >> tilikum at some point grabbed ahold of her left forearm and started to drag her. did a barrel roll and pulled her in. may have started as play or frustration and clearly
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escalated to be very violent behavior that i think was anything but play. in the end, you know, he basically just completely mutilated that poor girl. >> they were gathering all the trainers at the texas park. he said there's been an accident at the florida park, and a trainer was killed. hearing that it was dawn, i couldn't believe it. i just remember saying to myself, not dawn. it can't be dawn. he said that, and he still has her. and i just was so disturbed by that and the reality of how powerless we are. >> laceration, abrasion, fractures, fractures in associated hemorrhages, blunt force traumas to the main body, to the extremities. to see this out against a trainer, and i cannot fathom the reason. it's shocking.
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the lawyer for osha asked me what i thought we learned. and i'm sitting in the courtroom and i've got the keltie byrne case file in one hand and dawn brancheau in the other. and they're almost to the day 20 years apart. i'm looking at these two things. my only answer is nothing. in fact, it's not a damn thing. we have not learned a damn thing for something like that to happen 20 years apart. avo: waves don't care what age you are.
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could you tell if this was an accident or -- >> did this female trainer work with this whale on a regular basis? >> i don't know. apparently what happened is we had a female trainer back in the whale holding area. she apparently slipped or fell into the tank and was fatally injured by one of the whales. >> at first seaworld reported a trainer slipped and fell in the water and was drowned.
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that was the first report. >> it wasn't until eyewitness accounts disputed that that they had to go back in their huddle and say we've got to come up with a new plan. >> seaworld has confirmed a killer whale pulled a woman into the water. she didn't fall into the tank as the sheriff's department initially reported. >> the new plan is that he grabbed her ponytail. this is a subtle way of placing the blame on dawn's shoulders. she shouldn't have had the ponytail. or if she did have that ponytail, it should have been up in a bun. >> dawn, if she was standing here with me right now would tell you that that was her mistake in allowing that to happen. >> they blamed her. how dare you? how disrespectful for you to blame her when she's not even alive to defend herself. >> he grabbed her ponytail and pulled her in the water. that's as simple as it gets. >> there are photographs of plenty of other trainers doing exactly the same thing she was doing. so i knew that seaworld was lying about the fact that this
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was her fault. >> the ponytail, in all likelihood, is just a tale. the safety spotter apparently didn't see the takedown, came up with that. >> are you excited? >> during the spotter's testimony, osha pushed him to say that he wasn't really sure that it was her ponytail that was in the whale's mouth, that he just saw her underwater and assumed it was the ponytail. osha contends that the whale came up and grabbed on brancheau's arm. saying that that was another level of aggressiveness. seaworld is saying it was not an aggressive move. >> one of seaworld's top curators, chuck tompkins, said when dawn brancheau was pulled off that ledge, it wasn't necessarily aggressive behavior by the whale. >> the initial grab was not an act of aggression. this is not a crazed animal. >> the industry has a vested interest in spinning these so that the animals continue to appear like cuddly teddy bears that are completely safe. you know, that sells a lot of shamu dolls and tickets at the gate.
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that's the story line they're going to continue to stick with for as long as they can. >> recognize that those that say this is a crazed animal that acted out and grabbed dawn maliciously, they want to prove the theorem that captivity makes animals crazy. and that is just false. >> all animals in captivity have a bad life. they're all emotionally destroyed. they're all psychologically traumatized. so they are ticking time bombs. it's not just tilikum. >> we have to separate what happened to dawn, and as tragic as it is and no one wants to see
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it happen again. can seaworld create an environment where it never happens again? yes, i absolutely believe they can. what if there were no seaworlds? i can't imagine a society with the value we put in marine mammals if those parks didn't exist. >> i'm not at all interested in having my daughter, who is three and a half, grow up thinking that it's normalized to have these intelligent, highly evolved animals in concrete pools. i don't want her to think that's how we treat the kin that we find ourselves around on this planet. i think it's atrocious. >> this hearing is expected to last all week with osha continuing to work toward this theory. that seaworld knew there was a calculated risk of injury or death, but put trainers in the water with the whales anyway. while seaworld will say that dawn brancheau's death was an isolated interest. reporting live in seminole county, dave mcdaniel, wesh 2 news.
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there's something wrong. you know, with tilikum. there's something wrong, and that's -- when you have a relationship with an animal and you understand that he's killing not to be a savage. he's not killing just because he's crazy. he's not killing because he doesn't know what he's doing. he's killing because he's frustrated and he's got aggravations and he doesn't know how to -- he has no outlet for it. >> now tilikum is spending a great deal of time by himself
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and basically floating lifeless in a pool. >> three hours now and he hasn't moved. >> they try to sugar coat it by saying he comes out in the front pool every once in awhile. now he's doing shows. you know what he does in his show? he does a few bows and then he goes back into his little jail cell. that's his life. >> i feel sad for tilikum. a regal thing like him swimming around the tank with his fin flopped over like that compared to a wild bull killer whale that size. one of the most kinetic and dynamic things you can imagine. i feel sad when i see him. >> it's time to stop the shows. it's time to stop forcing the animals to perform in basically a circus environment.
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and they should release the animals that are young enough and healthy enough to be released. and the animals like tilikum that are old and sick and have put in 25 years in the industry should be released to an open ocean pen to live out their lives and experience the rhythm of the ocean. >> this is a multibillion dollar organization. they make their living through the exploitation of orcas. >> they're not suitable to have in captivity. >> the whales are really bored. you deprive them of all this environmental stimulation. >> i think that in 50 years we'll look back and go, my god, what a barbaric time. ♪
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