i know illinois and indiana both have safe haven laws. if you state doesn't have a safe haven law, it really needs to, because it provides an opportunity for a scared parent to deal with a situation in a much better, much more controlled environment than how skyler was -- >> thank god for both of you. we lose their signal at that moment. they are very selfishly a perfect example of what indiana can produce, coming to us from indiana. what an amazing story to end on this memorial day friday. thanks you guys. it's been a great day. thanks for staying with us. a lot of news happening right now. let's get you straight over to the "newsroom" with carol costello. >> appreciate that. "newsroom" starts now. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com i have no idea what was going on in the tower, but it was pretty gnarly looking. >> danger in the skies. >> i want to stop you here, stop

the turn right here. stop your climb and stop your turn united flight 601. >> two united airliners narrowly miss each other in the sky. >> do you know what happened there? >> you basically crossed directly over the top of each other. also -- >> look at that golf ball hail. >> it seemed like all hell broke loose. >> holy hail, damaging winds and flooding just as the holiday weekend begins. i fell through that hole, thankfully i didn't keep falling that way. >> trapped 70 feet down on the himalayans mountain side. >> my right arm is seizing up. i can't use it anymore. >> an amazing story of survival, live in the cnn "newsroom." good morning. i'm carol costello, thank you so much for joining me. it has happened again.

two commercial jets packed with passengers coming within seconds from slamming into one another in the sky. this time a pair of united airlines airbus a320s came within 400 feet of each other as they were taking off from houston's bush enter continental airport two weeks ago. passengers didn't notice anything. the sound from the cockpit shows how close these two planes came to disaster. >> 601, do you know what happened there? >> you basically crossed directly over the top of each other. that's what it looked like from my perspective. i have no idea what was going on in the tower, it was pretty gnarly looking. >> it's at least the second near collision we're learning about this week. cnn aviation correspondent rene marsh has more. >> reporter: carol, it has happened again, two planes with passengers on board get too close in the sky. now this morning the faa is investigating.

>> 601, turn right, right turn. >> reporter: two more passenger planes get too close in the skies. on may 9th, united flight 601 and united flight 437 took off from bush enter continental airport in houston at roughly the same time. shortly after takeoff flight 601 is told to turn right, putting it in the path of the other plane. moments later the controller seems to realize the mistake. >> 601, stop your heading, stop your turn right there. united 601, stop your turn, stop your climb and stop your turn united 601. >> the two planes came within nearly a mile of each other. the roughly 300 passengers on both flights may not have been aware of the close call, but the pilots were left with questions as to what went wrong. >> 601, do you know what happened there? >> y'all basically crossed directly over the top of each other. that's what it looked like from

my perspective. i have no idea what was going on in the tower. it was pretty gnarly looking. >> i'm guessing he was supposed to give us a left turn? >> this is the third incident in recent weeks where passenger planes got too close for comfort. a similar incident over newark airport and another over the pacific ocean near hawaii, all involving passenger planes. >> the latest faa numbers from 2012 show planes got too close nearly 4,400 times a year, that's more than 12 times a day. 41 of those were considered high risk. carol? >> rene marsh reporting. thank you very much. let's bring in david soucie, cnn safety analyst and author of "why planes crash" and mary schiavo, former inspector general for the department of transportation. welcome to you both. i'm listening to the air traffic control chatter and it's a little freaky. how close was this incident to disaster? >> this was very close to disaster. more importantly, this is a

violation of federal air regulations. this is what's called an operational error. that means the air traffic controller made a mistake. they're supposed to be three miles apart. depending upon the phase of the flight, 2,000 feet or more. so this was very, very close. >> david, i know newark airport changed its rules regarding runway use for takeoffs and landings. does every airport need to do this? >> there's a lot of things that had to do with newark airport, including the closure of one of the airports themselves. when you look at how to change that and where it goes, it changes the operational parameters of the airport itself. as mary said, this is an operational error. you look at how they go and how they set up for changes, not only their standard procedures but when things change, how they adapt to those changes. i think that's more important right now. >> the most concerning thing to me, mary -- and i want to go back to the chatter between the pilots, they were trying to figure out what went wrong in

realtime. that's a little scary. >> right, it is. one of the things that they say is you don't want to do an en route troubleshoot, meaning you don't want to stop and figure it out. in this case it must have been very alarmin to the pilots. also they were alarmed because it's well known, there was an office of inspector general report that operational errors by air traffic controllers were up in one time period by as much as 50%, so much that the faa decided to call them operational incidents and they banned the words operational errors. that's the way they dealt with it. >> that doesn't make me feel any better. the faa says in 2012 there were 4,400 near-miss incidents. that's about 12 a day. how safe are we? >> i still think we're safe if you compare that to the number of flights we have out there and the fact that we do have collision avoidance systems on the aircraft as a secondary backup for this. if the air traffic controller routes them into an area where

they can intersect each other, the airplanes themselves have the ability to see where they are and what the projected paths are to see if they'll be hitting each other or not. so they get several warnings to prevent that actual incident from happening. it doesn't eliminate the risk, certainly, but it does give a secondary level of safety. >> david soucie, mary schiavo, thanks for your insight as always. >> thank you. holy hail, just in time for the memorial day weekend, some nasty storms hit the northeast. this is incredible. that poor person's car. damaging hail pelted places like redding, pennsylvania, where streets turned into rivers and cars bore the brunt of the damage. a few hours north in albany, new york, high winds were the problem. the storm leveled this home, scattering debris across the street. amazingly enough, no one was hurt. the woman who lives in that home was not home at the time. indra petersons is tracking it all from new york.

this hail, it's freaky. >> impressive. we're talking about large hail. these aren't just a few isolated events. look at just the last 12 hours. every one of these balls, these are reports of large hail or strong winds that came in all the way from the midwest, all the way into the northeast. again, 12 hours. that's what they saw, unbelievable evening. things are improving. it's memorial day weekend, people need to go places. there's still severe weather out there. portions of the carolinas from wilmington to columbia. all the way back to new mexico and tiny portions of texas. that's the concern today. we still have the threat that those thunderstorms could be heavy. easy to see on the map right now, things calming down, not to say there's nothing out there especially into the south earn plains and texas right now. keep that in mind in case you're trying to fly out. it's memorial day weekend. here is the low offshore that brought all those reports. it's still kicking offshore. it's going away. some wrap-around showers will be out there. as long as high pressure is

behind it, conditions are improving. you'll get a spotty shower here or there, many of you from the midwest to the northeast have a 10% chance of showers. one of you may see some rain over your head. over awful people will be happy. temperatures going up no matter where you want to go except for the southern plains and seattle looking ugly. if there's one place that knows rain, i'd say it's seattle. >> they're used to it. indra petersons, thank you. a california man charged with kidnapping a girl and holding her for ten years sits behind bars. his attorney says the victim is lying. isidro garcia is facing charges of kidnapping and rape. garcia's attorney says the young woman was never held against her will and the couple was actually in the process of a nasty divorce. sara sidner joins us with more. good morning. >> good morning. regardless of what the defense attorney says, the police say this girl was just 15 years old

when she went missing, and these two ended up together for ten years. we are hearing from the district attorney who has put charges forward, very serious charges forward including kidnapping and forcible rape and three counts of lewd and lascivious acts on a minor. police say something terrible happened to this young lady. >> bail in your case is set at $1 million. >> reporter: 42-year-old isidro garcia now faces 19 years to life, charged with rape, kidnapping and lewd acts on a minor. garcia initially arrested for allegedly holding this california woman in captivity for a decade until she walked into a police station on monday. >> i'm so happy and god blessed to be with my family. >> reporter: she tells cnn affiliate kabc she didn't have a life.

>> i was very afraid about everything because i was alone. >> reporter: the 25-year-old woman says garcia kidnapped her in santa ana when she was 15 years old. at the time he was her mother's boyfriend. the alleged victim says throughout the next ten years, he raped her, changed her identity to marry her and they had a child together. >> she was told her family wasn't looking for her. she was told that he was her only ally. >> reporter: these photos from the alleged victim's facebook page appear to show a normal couple, neighbors say he tweeted his wife like a queen. a couple that rejoiced at news she was having a baby. >> she was really happy that she was pregnant. >> reporter: this is the family neighbors say they knew, not believing what they are hearing now. >> never gave you any indication that there was something really wrong going on and she had been kidnapped. >> no, never. we're in shock. she had her own car. she could have easily and like a normal day, leave with her

little girl, stopped by the police station. >> reporter: the defense attorney says the alleged victim had certain motives for reporting her husband. >> like all marriages and couples, people have problems, people break up. people say things that aren't true. and in this case that's probably what happened. >> now, police point out there is more than just physical chains to hold somebody and take control of somebody. certain psychological things they say were done to this victim, including the fact that she was here illegally from mexico and told that if she did go and talk to police, she would be deported and perhaps her family as well. she described to police trying to escape a couple times and being beaten for it. >> sara sidner reporting live this morning. thank you. still to come, more on this story. we'll hear from a woman with a similar story, michelle knight, you remember her. she reacts quite emotionally to this california case.

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naturally sourced ingredients. we just told you about the case of a california woman who says she was kidnapped and held captive by a man for ten years. she married him, had a child, but some are questioning her story and that has greatly upset michelle knight, held captive herself for ten years. she bravely faced her abductor

ariel castro in court. this morning she cannot believe people question women who describe the terrible things that happen to them. kate bolduan had a very emotional talk with michelle knight. kate joins us with more of her exclusive interview. >> good morning, carol. it is a tragedy that we can even say or have to say that there is a woman that can relate to being held captive for ten-plus years. no matter how this case turns out, michelle knight wanted to speak out. she wants to be a victim's advocate and wanted to speak directly to this woman in california. it really hit close to home. >> it must be hard, i've been thinking, for you to retell your story over and over again especially on your book tour. has it been difficult for you. >> it's been difficult, but like i said, i'm trying to help other people. if i can help just one person by my story or more than one person, i'm welcome to do it. >> you hear of this story, the possibility of another woman being held, abused for ten years.

she was taken when she was 15 years old. what went through your mind, what goes through your mind when you hear about this? >> well, right now what's going through my mind is people shouldn't judge people by what they see and what they hear because there's a lot of people out there that goes through pain and they can't stop it. they don't know how to cope with it. they don't know exactly how to go through it. people shouldn't say anything about what they can't explain, because it may be difficult for that woman. that woman that went through this. and it's very hard for her, when people are saying bad things about her and saying that she's lying, you don't know what went through her head. you don't know what that dude was doing to her. you have absolutely no clue what she went through to say things and say that she was lying or

she's doing this. you're making her life not able to function or heal properly when you do these things to people. you're making people not want to come out, not want to say anything. you're making people want to sit there and keep it to their self and go through the abuse when you say stupid crap like that. i need a break. >> you can just see the memories kind of flooding back to her and the pain. she asked for that break. of course, we gave her that break. she did want to continue talking, carol. >> that made me kind of cry, too, kate. i'm sorry. i know where she's coming from. this young woman, neighbors say they appear a happy couple. this woman got married to her alleged abductor, they seemed a normal family. a lot of people don't understand domestic abuse and how you can be brainwashed through physical

abuse and through mental abuse. i'm sure you got into that with michelle as well. >> that's really part of her big message is you just don't know what other people are going through, number one, and how strong the emotional chains are. that's how she described it, rather than the physical chains that michelle suffered under as well. she talked about that. she did compose herself, amazingly, and she did want to continue talking because she really does want to get her message out. we continued on. >> this hits so close to home. this is so hard. >> yes, it does. it hits really close to home. i want to let her know that i care, i understand. don't let anybody break you down. don't let what people are saying about you hurt you or make you feel ashamed. push through it. ignore them because they're just ignorant.

understand that there are people out there that are going through the same pain you are and going through the same struggle, regardless if they're man or woman. understand. come forward. don't be ashamed. you did nothing wrong. >> really what it comes down to, carol, no matter what happened to the case in california, what michelle knight is a larger message of revic i'mizing victims and you don't understand, and people jumping to knee-jerk reactions. >> we'll talk more about this in the next hour of "newsroom." kate bolduan, thanks for sharing michelle knight's story. we'll be right back. afghanistan, in 2009. orbiting the moon in 1971. [ male announcer ] once it's earned, usaa auto insurance is often handed down from generation to generation. because it offers a superior level of protection. and because usaa's commitment to serve current and former military members and their families is without equal.

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memorial day, packing up the family, hitting the road. first you have to gas up. amazingly from the looks of how many people will hit the road this weekend, we have become used to high gas prices and i mean high. it will cost most of us $50, $60, even 70 bucks to fill up the tank. for three years the average price of a gallon of gas has been above $3.00. we haven't seen it below $3.00 since 2009. for the 36 million of us traveling this weaken, maybe it's become part of the deal. with me miguel marquez and cnn's chief business correspondent christine romans. gas prices are high, but it doesn't seem to be discouraging anyone from traveling, right? >> reporter: that's right, carol. a lot of folks on the road this year, about 36.1 million people that aaa estimates will be

taking to the roads and air and rail this holiday weekend. just a smidge above where it was last year at 35.5 million. that's way above where it was at the depths of the recession about 30.5 million people. we are still way below where it was before the recession, back in '05, 44 million people traveling this weekend. right now heading into new york, traffic is looking pretty dafrn good. in fact, we're having a hard time finding traffic today. the roads around new york city are good. as the afternoon wears on and people are getting out of town, it's going to be busy. >> looks pretty busy on the other side of the highway. many thanks, let's check in with christine romans now. christine, i want to talk about gas prices. it has been three years since we've seen gas prices under $3.00 a gallon. will we ever see that again in our lifetime? >> maybe not, carol, maybe not. most people think above $3.00 is the new normal.

when you look at the chart, you can see the last time we were below it, the whole world was in recession, the financial system had almost collapsed and we didn't know really what the future held for the economy. so demand collapsed around the world. you don't want lower gas prices on the back of a global recession. let's say that. but since then, you've had prices steadily moving higher, up the last 12 weeks i think, heading into the summer. most people i talked to think things could taper off in the summer and go down late bit in the fall until hurricane season comes and we worry about that. it's a global market. you have the ukraine situation, global demand for oil and gas and energy is just block does center. so you have the situation where everybody wants to gobble up more oil. case in point, the people on the road with miguel. they are still driving despite the high prices. >> remember when gas prices were above $4.00 a gallon. that was a couple years ago. people did stop driving and gas prices fell.

so is it really up to us? >> i'm not sure if gas prices fell 100% because they got so high and people stopped driving more or because we were at the beginning of this big saudi america. have you heard that term? where we are producing so much now, that we're actually producing as how much oil and gas as we've ever imported. we've now become a net producer of oil and gas and energy. that's new for america, and that's one of the reasons you've seen those prices come down. >> that's a good thing, huh? i'll keep my fingers crossed. >> but i don't think they'll ever fall below $3.00 again. >> keep your fingers crossed even as you fill up the tank, carol. maybe that will help. >> i know, i know. christine romans, thanks so much. >> have a good weekend. va secretary eric shinseki speaking directly to the veterans he served, penning an open letter about the agency's scandal. the details and a live report out of washington next.

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a vow to take action on the va scandal, that's the message from eric shinseki in a letter to veterans posted on the agency's website. it comes as he faces renewed calls for his resignation. the latest from democrats alison lungren grimes in kentucky and

charlie crist in florida. white house correspondent michelle kosinski joins me with more on this. good morning. >> good morning. cnn broke this story and for six months has tried to get shinseki to do an interview and address the issue. shinseki would not sit down with cnn, would not take questions. he has now answered one reporter's question only to say that he has not offered his resignation. he has now addressed veterans across america. he did it in writing. the tough talk is coming from capitol hill. >> these are men and women who served our country, and we can't just let them down. we've let them die. this is awful stuff and somebody ought to be held accountable for it. >> reporter: house speaker john boehner in his strongest statement on this issue speaks for the veterans affected by the scandal, 23 of whom the va said

died because they remained on waiting lists for medical care. >> i have not called for general shinseki to resign although i have to admit i'm getting a little closer. here is the point. this spt ability one person. this isn't about the secretary. it's about the entire system underneath him. >> reporter: while the president's deputy chief of staff arrived at the phoenix va where the scandal broke to broaden the investigation, va secretary shinseki was summoned to the hill for a private meeting with senate number two man dick durbin and then posted an online letter to veterans everywhere. the strongest quotes in it were him quoting president obama the other day and shinseki saying he agrees. shinseki writes he takes the allegations seriously and they're of great personal concern. you and your families deserve to have full faith in your va and we intend to earn it every day. the bulk of the letter lists the good customer service record and

includes all kinds of statistics, shinseki adding that if any allegations under review are substantiated, we will act. >> some in congress want to act now. we're talking about this bill that has come up that has passed the house that would make it easier for the va to fire managers. yesterday it was brought up in the senate, but the chairman of the va committee objected to it saying let's not politicize this issue any further. for its part, the white house actually agrees with this bill and its need for accountability, says it wants to work with congress on it. although it does have some concerns about lawsuits that might come up, if you take away the process involved in those firings. >> michelle kosinski reporting live from the white house. still to come in the "newsroom," an american climber plunges 70 feet on a himalayans mountain and survives. jason carol has his incredible story. >> you got that right. an incredible story, amazing video and an incredible

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falling he thought he was going to be dead. he got lucky, he survived and started recording his harrowing experience of how he climbed to safety one inch at a time. >> i fell through the hole, thankfully i didn't keep falling that way. >> reporter: trapped alone 70 feet below the ice, professor john aull was broken, bruised and fighting for his life. >> my right arm is seizing up, i can't use it anymore. >> reporter: he was liking alone when he plunged into a crevasse, landing on a ledge just three feet wide. his face bloody. he suffered several broken ribs and a fractured arm from the terrifying fall. like the survival drama, ""127 hours"," the professor made a lifesaving decision to climb out, his camera in tow.

that hurt bad but i got to get out. >> it's funny the amount of damage the body can take and still function pretty well. the pain was wonderful, let's put it that that way, because i was at least alive to feel the pain. >> reporter: it took five agonizing hours making his way to the top with an ice axe. >> it happened so quickly and i was thinking, thank god i stopped and i was still alive, because i didn't -- i expected to keep going until it was over and to hit the ledge and catch that little piece of ice and save my life. >> reporter: all's family still can't believe he made it out alive. >> he could have been a goner for sure f. you look at it from the video, he could have kept on going down. i don't see how you get out of that. if you look up, you see the sky. i don't know how you get up there if you don't have one of your arms functioning. >> reporter: carol, i asked all

if he had seen the movie, ""127 hours."" he said no. i think he raised an interesting point about why he decided to start recording. he said the minute he turned the carol on, i knew i needed to leave something for my family. i knew i would survive if i was recording my experience. it's absolutely incredible. something else that a lot of folks don't know, all told me once he got to the top of the crevasse, he was so exhausted. remember he's 20,000 feet up there, had very little air left inside of him, could barely breathe. he said he had to literally roll himself back down to his camp which took more hours before he could even get rescued because he said he was too exhausted to walk. then it took another 12 to 18 hours before folks could get to him and finally get him to a safe place. really an incredible story of survival for this man who is really feeling lucky to be alive. >> every time you show the

pictures of that crevasse, my hands start sweating. i'm a little claustrophobic and afraid of heights. >> that's a bad combination. >> a bad combination. i guess i'll never be climbing the himalayas, right? >> probably not. >> if he had fallen again, he probably would have missed that tiny little ledge. >> reporter: here is another thing, carol. he's 6'5", 240 pounds. i said maybe because of your size, you acted like a stopper -- if it would have been someone like me, i'm much thinner, maybe i would have gone all the way to the bottom. he says he feels as though his size helped him. the bigger you are, he's found in his experience in all these years climbing, you have more body fat, more muscle mass and you can fight off hypothermia a lot easier than smaller people. >> one amazing guy. jason carroll, thank you for bringing us his story. still to come, the always outspoken mark cuban in the headlines and in the hot seat

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as the nba gears up for a potential legal battle against donald sterling, another team owner, mark cuban, finds himself in the middle of a controversy about race. cuban's thoughts and words about bigotry making headlines this morning after this interview with "inc." magazine went viral. >> in this day and age, this country has really come a long way putting any type of big otry behind us regardless of who it's towards, whether it's the lgbt

community, when it's company phobia, fear of people from other countries. we've come a long way and with that progress comes a price where we're a lot more vigilant in what we -- we're a lot less tolerant of different views. and it's not necessarily easy for everybody to adopt or adapt or evolve. we're all prejudice in one way or the other. if i see a black kid in a hoodie and it's late at night, i'm walking to the other side of the street. if on that side of the street there's a guy that has tattoos all over his face, white guy, bald head, tattoos everywhere, i'm walking back to the other side of the street, and the list goes on of stereotypes that we all live up to and are fearful of.

and so in my businesses, i try not to be hypocritical. i know i'm not perfect. i know i live in a glass house and it's not appropriate for me to throw stones. so when i run into bigotry in organizations i control, i try to find solutions. i'll work with people, i'll send them to training, i'll send them to sensitivity training. i'll try to give them a chance to improve themselves. >> all right. the resulting backlash forced cuban to issue an apology via twitter. he writes in part, quote, in hind shiite i should have used different examples. i didn't consider the trayvon martin family and i apologize for that. beyond apologizing to the martin family i stand by the words and substance of the interview. joining me to talk about this u ruben navarrette they, a cnn contributor and an offer of "a darker shade of crimson," and jeff johnson from alum communications.

he's on the r ruban, i want to start with you. everyone is focused on the black hoodie thing. if you want to understand what mark cuban was trying to say, it was refreshingly honest. >> i agree. we are used to talking to people, particularly politicians who is talk a lot and don't say anything. it is refreshing to get somebody who is honest and straightforward and doesn't dodge the question. that's the first thing. the second thing i took from this interview is race remains a delicate and sometimes dangerous subject and that is something mark cuban missed when you go into those waters, you ought be careful and he wasn't careful enough and that's why he later apologized by missing the reference to trayvon martin. it's clear from looking at the entire interview there is nuance here and mark cuban has not made up his mind about how he would

cast his vote to the fate of donald sterling. he feels uncomfortable with the idea of taking people who have backward views and sending them off to another neighborhood and thinks there's work to be done here. he's a question mark as to what he thinks should happen in this case. >> jeff, i want to bring this up. what mark cuban said reminded me of what then senator obama said in 2008 when he was forced to give that speech on race in the midst of his campaign for president. this is what he recalled about his white grandmother's views. >> i can no more disown him than i can disown my white grandmother. a woman who helped raise me. a woman who sacrificed again and again for me. a woman who loves me as much as she loves anything in this world but a woman who once confessed her fear of black men who passed her by on the street and who on more than one occasion has

uttered racial stereotypes that made me cringe. >> jeff, is it fair to compare the two? >> i don't know if i would compare the two. so often we have people of color and marginalized people that are oversensitive to these kind of remarks and often white folks who are not sensitive enough. the reason that happens is because we stopped talking about the fact that we live in a country that so often has been under the pressure of white supremacy and we don't want to talk about it. i'm refreshed and i think that what this comment makes me more mindful of is eric holder's comments early in the administration that said we as a country are a country of cowards when it comes to talking about race. i think what's dangerous is that mark cuban really talked about, one, even though he has these prejudices, this is how i deal with it in my company.

i make sure people have training. and then he said we all live in glass houses and we all have prejudices. i would really hope that we stop making it difficult for reasonable people to be honest about their prejudice and open the door to unreasonable people like sterling to control the narrative. >> i agree with you, jeff. there's a difference between donald sterling and mark cuban. donald sterling doesn't even realize what he says is racist. and in his life he's practiced racist practices with his apartments and not letting minorities rent apartments from him. mark cuban realizes that he might have problems with prejudice, but he deals with it. he recognizes it. he wants to fix it and become a better man. >> there's also another story here and that's mark cuban is a smart guy. he understands the precedence that is sent when a group of owners get together and say someone needs to sell their basketball team. he's the owner of a basketball

team. he's outspoken. owners don't like him. they don't like him because he is outspoken and a publicity hound. if they decided under some false pretense or other pretense or true pretense to get rid of him. he's concerned about that. he's looking for long-term. he's not an 80-year-old owner who doesn't think about the future. he's a young owner that thinks about the future. his views are complicated and he's concerned about where they're headed. >> that's a cynical way of looking at it, isn't it, jeff? >> i don't know if i agree with that. i think he's smart and right now his advisers -- if he had my firm, i would be telling him how to navigate this thing and so i think he is concerned about that. but i don't think he compares himself to sterling. he's not worried about an investigation. frankly, i don't think that he's worried or waver on his decision about sterling. i think he knows. i think he wants to keep it under his vest until it's time for the vote so we don't give yet the media another thing to tear him apart about.

>> interesting conversation. i could talk about this all day. i can't. ruben and jeff, many thanks to both of you for your insight. i appreciate it. we're back in a minute.

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that series is tied one game a piece. the next hour of "cnn newsroom" starts now. happening now in the "newsroom" -- >> i have no idea what was going on up there in the tower. >> danger in the skies. >> stop right there, sir. >> stop your turn. stop your climb. stop your turn. >> two united airliners narrowly miss each other in the sky. >> do you know what happened there? >> basically crossed directly over the top of each other. >> also -- >> holy cow. look at that. >> it seemed like all hell broke loose. >> holy hail. damaging winds and flooding just as the holiday weekend begins. but first, a decade-long kidnapping saga. a woman taken when she was a teen now free and she's finding support from someone else who knows the horror of being held

captive. ariel castro's victim, michelle knight. >> just because you're not chained up and you're not locked in a basement, doesn't mean you ain't trapped. good morning. i'm carol costello. thank you so much for joining me. a california man accused of kidnapping a girl and holding her hostage for ten years sits behind bars this morning. his attorney says he didn't do it and the victim is lying. garcia is being held on $1 million bail facing charges of kidnapping and rape but garcia's attorney says the young woman was never held against her will and that the couple was actually in the process of a nasty divorce. we're joined now with more. >> reporter: good morning. the district attorney seems to have seen enough evidence to charge garcia with serious crimes including forceable rape and kidnapping with the intent

to commit a sexual offense among other felonies, five in total. but his defense attorney and neighbors and friends who knew this couple say they simply don't believe the entire story that the victim has told police. >> bail in your case is set at $1 million. >> the 42 year old faces 19 years to life charged with rape, kidnapping and lewd acts on a minor. garcia initially arrested for allegedly holding this california woman in captivity for a decade until she walked into a police station monday. >> i'm so happy to be with my family. >> she tells a cnn affiliate she didn't have a life. >> i was very afraid about everything because i was alone. >> reporter: the 25-year-old woman says garcia kidnapped her in santa ana when she was 15 years old. at the time, he was her mother's

boyfriend. the alleged victim says throughout the next ten years he raped her, changed her identity to marry her and they had a child together. >> she was told her family wasn't looking for her. she was told that he was her only ally. >> reporter: these photos from the alleged victim's facebook page appear to show a normal couple. a husband who neighbors say treated his wife like a queen. a couple that rejoiced at news they were having a baby. >> she was really happy. she was really happy that she was pregnant. >> reporter: this is the family the neighbors say they knew and not believing what they are hearing now. >> never any indication there was something wrong going on and she had been kidnapped? >> never. that's what we're in shock. she had her own car. she could go to work with the little girl. stop by the police station. say i feel threatened. >> reporter: garcigarcia's atto says the alleged victim had

motives for reporting her husband. >> people break up and say things that aren't true and in this case that's probably what happened. >> reporter: now police point out this is not like all marriages and all couples because this girl was reported missing in 2004 by her mother and at the time she was 15 years old. police say she told them that she was threatened by him, twice beaten when she tried to escape and because she had come into the country illegal by from mexico he threatened if she went to police she would be deported. all things keeping her psychologically controlled by the suspect. carol? >> and i want you to stick around because we're going to talk more about this in just a bit. first, i want to let people hear what michelle knight had to say. the fact that some people are questioning the california woman's story is upsetting to michelle knight. she's the young woman held captive herself for ten years. you remember knight. she faced her abductor in court months after her ordeal ended.

today she cannot believe people question women who describe terrible things that happened to them. knight had an emotional conversation with "new day's" kate bolduan. >> it must be hard, i've been thinking, for you to retell your story over and over again especially on your book tour. has it been difficult for you? >> it's been difficult but like i said, i'm trying to help other people and if i can help just one person by my story or more than one person, i'm welcome to do it. >> you hear of this story and possibility of another woman being held, abused for ten years. taken when she was 15 years old. what went through your mind and what goes through your mind when you hear about this? >> right now what's going through my mind is people shouldn't judge people by what they see and what they hear because there's as lot of people

out there that go through pain and they can't stop it. they don't know how to cope with it. they don't know exactly how to go through it. people shouldn't say anything about what they can't explain because it may be difficult for that woman. that woman that went through this. it's very hard for her when people are saying bad things about her and saying that she's lying. you don't know what went through her head. you don't know what that dude was doing to her. you have absolutely no clue what she went through to say things and say that she was lying or she's doing this. you're making her life not able to function or heal properly when you do these things to people. you're making people not want to come out. not want to say anything. you're making people want to sit there and keep it to themselves

and go through abuse when you say stupid crap like that. i need a break. >> michelle knight did take a break but she's a courageous woman because she wanted to continue. she has advice for this california victim. >> this hit so close to home. this is so hard. >> yes, it does. it hits really close to home. i want to let her know that i care. i understand. and don't let anybody break you down. don't let what people are saying about you hurt you or make you feel ashamed. push through it. ignore them. they're just ignorant. understand that there are people out there that are going through the same pain you are and going through the same struggle regardless if they are man or

woman. understand. come forward. don't be ashamed. you did nothing wrong. >> all right. let's talk about this. sara sidner joins us once again with psychiatrist. this is a difficult conversation to have. as a journalist, you have to ask questions and this is not a simple story, is it? >> no, it isn't simple. each and every one of these stories is very different. as you've seen reported, there are other cases and other people who have gone through similar things but not exactly the same. one of the big difficulties is obviously trying to get to the alleged victim and trying to talk to the suspect as well. that usually doesn't happen very quickly. so you go about trying to find other people who knew them, their friends, their family members, where they worked. you try to get that information as best you can. i think one of the things that's happened here also according to police when the initial missing

persons report was filed, the police in santa ana told me that basically the mother had come in saying she believed that her daughter had run away with the mother's boyfriend. now, that's a creepy situation because he's 16 years her senior and so something is very wrong there. to use the words run away, that has a much different connotation than kidnapped. police found out she was kidnapped when the alleged victim walked into the police department and used those very words saying she had been drugged and taken away and moved all over the place. one more thing to remember, she was here. she about been here only a few months and had come from mexico illegally so he did have quite a bit of control over her according to police in keeping her from going to authorities making her very afraid to do that, carol. >> okay. so, doctor, let's talk about this being 15 years old and whether you run away with a man

16 years your senior or whether you're abducted by him, he has a certain measure of control over you, right? >> more than a certain measure. 15. you're a child. you're a child who is just arrived in a new country. we also don't actually know what her circumstances were before she arrived from that country. you know, did they leave because their situation was so horrendous before? a family invested in getting out, a child, you know, no matter what happened, that is actually under duress i would say. however she left would be not a reasonably balanced situation at all. >> so, if for example, my mother thought at 15 i ran away with a man 16 years my senior, she would want the police to look for me. she would be very concerned about me. did police look for this girl at

that time? >> the mother did come to the police department. she did file a missing persons report and she did go on television with a spanish language television to talk about this and ask the public to help her find her daughter. what police did with that information, went to look for her. one of the difficulties in this case was that police say apparently the suspect went and got falsified documents from mexico so changing names, changing birth dates and perhaps changing social security numbers so a lot of things here making it very difficult and we know that they moved several times around southern california to different places. what is striking here is that the alleged victim was just about 30 miles away from where her mother lived so very, very close. >> so let's get at the heart of this, dr. gail. michelle knight very upset. how could you question a victim in this particular way this soon when you don't know all the facts.

this is making other women in similar situations fear coming forward. does she have a point? >> i think she has an excellent point. it is hard for people to understand who were probably around. every time there are one of these stories, carol, everybody questions why didn't she break free at this time or that time. they don't understand the psychological chains that essentially a perpetrator exerts on a victim that telling the victim often i'm going to get your family deported, i'm going to kill your family. your family doesn't care about you. your family is gone. i'm the only one here for you which creates this stockholm syndrome. this psychological situation where the person believes the only person they have to rely on is their perpetrator and they have to stay. and so it's not a matter of whether they have a moment to break free physically,

psychologically they cannot break free. i think people have a hard time understanding that. it's a scary concept. and in doing so, they doubt the person. i think they doubt the person because they want to believe that if they were in a situation like that, they would be able to escape or they don't want to believe horrible things like this happen. at the end of the day it really undermines the victim. it's really -- we shouldn't be doing that. honestly, it's up to police to understand what really happened and if someone is a victim, you have to support them. i think -- i agree with michelle knight and obviously it's painful to her. there probably were people that questioned why she didn't try harder to break free. that really undermines someone who is already struggling with their own shame and guilt in terms of why did this happen to me? >> thanks so much. still to come in the "newsroom," just as the southwest kicks off the summer touring season, a wildfire threatens a national treasure in arizona. we'll go live to this massive

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one of the country's most beautiful landscapes has been turned to kindling. hundreds of firefighters are battling the flames threatening sedo sedona, arizona. the fire scorched 7,500 acres in oak creek canyon. we're joined now live near the

command center in flagstaff. this is a shame because this is one gorgeous area. >> reporter: tough to see such a beautiful place burning, carol. and firefighters are just now going back out to the fire lines. we're seeing a lot of activity. you might remember this parking lot behind me was full before the break but all these crews just wrapped up with their morning briefing. we were there. we got mostly good news. with he see crews from six different states out here helping in this fight. nearly 1,000 firefighters. this morning conditions are good. you see me wearing a jacket. cooler conditions. humidity is up. the smoke plume much smaller because winds have died down. crucial hours in the next few hours still just 5% contained as these fire crews work to save hundreds of homes. the dry conditions throughout the region are textbook for fires to burn out of control. >> fire gets into steep terrain with heavy fuels and wind

driven. it's a bad combination for potential of catastrophic wildfire. >> reporter: planes and choppers swoop in spraying water while hundreds of firefighters are on the front lines battling the fire that is threatening over 3,000 residents. frank owns 20 rental cabins in the area. a popular tourist destination. >> we were able to get our employees out. my family out. our guests out. >> reporter: residents are bracing for the worst. >> i'm getting ready to get the hell out of here. >> reporter: rushing to grab whatever belongings they can before evacuating. >> i hear it's close. i hear it's coming. 0% contained at this point. >> reporter: one woman desperately trying to find all of her cats. >> we're just trying to round them up and get them to a safer place so i have three right now. so we're still looking for about six. >> reporter: authorities say the cause of the fire is under

investigation. that it was probably started by a person. >> it's a big fire. it's a bit of a beast. >> reporter: a beast at the beginning of a fire season that authorities fear could be long and destructive. you're looking at the prescott hotshots as they gear up to go out to the fire lines. we understand there are nearly 20 hotshot teams here on these fire lines. these are guys and gals that are doing some of the hardest, dirtiest, most physical work on the fire. very dangerous work. it was right here in arizona just about a year ago, carol, where we lost those 19 hotshot firefighters. that's in the back of all these guys' minds. i talked to the prescott team this morning and i asked them about that specifically. he said, you know, this is our job and that's what we're focused on this morning. >> such brave men and women. many thanks. it is cooler in arizona today so that will make the firefighting a little bit easier.

good morning indra petersons. >> there's a fire risk in the region because there are thunderstorms. people think thunderstorms. great. rain. it's tricky. it's so dry most of the rain evaporates before it hits the ground. what are you left with? the threat of lightning. we call it dry lightning which could set more fires in the region. we talk about low humidity. 22% this morning. that's never a good thing. there will be a little bit more moisture in the air so we could see numbers go up over the next several days. it's only going to last a couple of days. you can see these are only days they will get a chance assuming they don't get dry lightning and more fires out there, these are going to be better days. by the time we go through sunday we'll start seeing warmer temperatures and even 90s out there. that's going to be the concern moving forward. the other story we've been talking about across the country in the northeast you may have heard about, look at reports of hail and wind damage that came across in the last 12 hours. tons of it out there. people heading out for memorial day. there's severe weather but not as widespread. looking around wilmington and

columbia and tiny section around new mexico and texas today. not a big deal unless you are under one of those major thunderstorms. you can tell very light. that's what we see across the area except for heavy stuff in the southern plains. good news for them because they have needed the rain. there's what it looks like across the country. much better memorial day looking a lot clearer. >> glad it will be better. in places like ohio it's been raining and raining and in fact in many cities in northeastern ohio it's flooded. i'm sure you have seen this video from ohio near dayton. this is route 70. the highway. look at that man. he's rescuing a baby from a car under water. >> i have to tell you. this is my biggest pet peeve ever. there are more deaths from flooding than any other severe weather event combined. think of everything you know. tornadoes, hurricanes, everything added together, more people die from flooding trying to cross floodwaters. half of those people die in their vehicles. it is not worth it. i don't care how much your car cost, get out of that vehicle

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it's happened again. two commercial jets packed with passengers coming within seconds of slamming into one another in the sky.

this time a pair of united airlines airbus a-320s came within 400 feet of one another taking off from houston's bush international continental airport. passengers didn't notice anything but the sound from the cockpit shows how close these planes came to disaster. >> 601, do you know what happened there? >> basically cross directly over the top of each other. that's what it looked like from my perspective. i have no idea what was going on up there in the tower. it was pretty narly looking. >> it's the second near collision we're learning about this week. cnn aviation correspondent renee marsh is here with more on this. good morning. >> good morning, carol. this is not good. this is not supposed to happen. when it comes to these situations, it comes down to two things. it's either pilot error or controller error. we can tell you just heard it there. it happened again two planes with passengers onboard get too

close in the skies and this morning we know the faa is now investigating. >> 601, a right turn. two more passenger planes get too close in the skies. on may 9th, united flight 601 and united 437 took off from bush intercontinental airport in houston at roughly the same time. shortly after takeoff, flight 601 is told to turn right putting it in the path of the other plane. moments later, the controller seems to realize the mistake. >> 601, stop the turn right there, sir. stop your turn. stop your climb. stop your turn 601. >> reporter: the two planes came within nearly a mile of each other. 300 passengers on both flights may not have been aware of the close call but the pilots were left with questions as to what went wrong. >> 601, you know what happened there? >> basically crossed directly

over the top of each other. that's what it looked like from my perspective. i have no idea what was going up there in the tower but it was pretty narly looking. >> reporter: this is the third incident in recent weeks where passengers planes got too close for comfort. a similar incident over newark airport and another one over the pacific ocean near hawaii all involving passenger planes. carol, you know, in order to know if this is a trend from year to year, we would need 2013 numbers but the faa -- we've asked them for it. they say they're not ready yet. we have 2012 numbers to go off of. those numbers show that planes came too close nearly 4,400 times a year. that's more than 12 times a day. we should point out 41 of those were considered high risk. carol? >> rene marsh reporting live from washington this morning. looking at some other top stories this morning at 29 minutes past. he's overseeing the military for two presidents but starting in

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pope francis will visit jordan, bethlehem and jerusalem along with two old friends, a rabbi and a sheikh who leads argentina's muslim community. some conservative israelis are not thrilled and scrolled graffiti on catholic buildings in jerusalem. jesus is garbage. there are calls for death to arabs and christians. people are also planning protests. cnn's ivan watson joins us from jerusalem to tell us more about that part of the story. good morning. >> reporter: good morning, carol. i have spoken with a spokesperson for the israeli police here in jerusalem and he told me that basically the main threat political threat that israeli police are worried about during pope francis' upcoming visit is from ultraorthodox nationalist jewish groups that have been carrying out what he describes as a campaign of "price tag vandalism attacks." things like graffiti that you mentioned right there.

take a listen to what the spokesperson had to say. we were in the command and control room which has cameras, more than 300 cameras stationed around the old city which will all be working during the pope's visit. take a listen. >> our units are dealing with criminal incidents with nationalistic motives, price tags as they are known. the majority of incidents that have taken place over the last few weeks have been against israeli arabs. one or two unfortunate incidents against churches. >> reporter: the thing is that the roman catholic church here has expressed concern, carol, about the "unrestrained acts of vandalism that are poisoning the atmosphere ahead of pope francis' trip." i met the rabbi who is traveling with him. and he said without question pope francis is a friend of the jews. carol? >> it will be a very interesting trip. i want to talk more about it. ivan watson, thanks to you.

joining me now a rabbi, president of the institute of north america and also a president of islamic society of north america. welcome to you both. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> thank you so much for being here. why is the pope bringing guests? why not go visit these places alone? why is he stirring the pot so to speak? >> i'm actually not sure the pope is stirring the pot as much as trying to avoid controversy. he's framed this trip primarily as a religious pilgrimage and i think he's trying to send a message by bringing colleagues on an interfaith mission that this is still a holy land. it's primarily historically been a holy land and that the mission of his trip is not to create political problems but to model a type of interfaith discourse and model the possibility of jews, christians and muslims praying together and being hopeful together. >> the pope says this holy land

excursion is strictly religious. earlier he described it as a pilgrimage for prayer. how can it not be political in this particular part of the world? >> i would like to take another understanding of this mission is to raise the profile of the interfaith work to have religious leaders around the world model this example, build an example after this model of the pope taking an imam with him to the holy land. i do believe that they share the same roots of faith and the holy land having to have christians and muslim and jews living there for a long time together, it's about time to get the leaders of those three major religions to

think about peace, to pray together for peace. >> that sounds so wonderful. but, doctor, i know the pope is going for religious reasons. he's also expected to call for a palestinian state which has long been a vatican policy. and that will surely upset some israelis, won't it? >> look, religion can't ever remain divorced from politics especially in the middle east and i think part of the implicit message the pope is sending is negotiation process should take into account religious instability in a way it hasn't in the past. it's been portrayed as a secular national conflict and there are so many religious instabilities that there's a possibility of reconciliation through religion. no doubt whatever the pope says with respect to the palestinians will anger some israelis though there's a wide consensus among israelis and people worldwide about the inevitability of a palestinian state and a better reconciliation. no questions there will be

moments along this trip that will be heavily interpreted of the choices he makes, places that he visits, how he portrays who the victims are in the conflict between israelis and palestinians and the historical relationship between jews and the church. you're right. there will be political traps but i agree with the imam that i think what he's trying to do is model the way in which religion can be a source of resolution to this conflict and not an indicator of the conflict all together. >> imam, i think the pope is trying to demonstrate what the doctor was describing. he's not going to travel in a protected vehicle, an armored vehicle down the streets of jerusalem, let's say. he's going to try to be out amongst the people. i'm sure that will kind of be concerning to security forces there. do you think that's a good idea? what message does that send when the pope does things like that? >> i think the message he tried to send that we have to create an environment of tolerance and

understanding for everyone. no one should fear any kind of backlash of practicing being open about the religion. this is the holy land. everyone should be able to practice freely their faith and i do believe that the freedom of religion is one of the most important principle the pope will convey here that everyone should have no fear to be able to be who they are and practice their religion freely. >> thank you both for being with me today. i appreciate it. thank you so much. still to come in the "newsroom "newsroom "newsroom "newsroom," outrage in washington and beyond over the va scandal. >> we didn't just let them down. we let them die. >> as calls for eric shinseki to

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comcast business built for business. eric shinseki speaking directly to veterans this morning via an open letter posted on the veterans affairs website. in it the embattled secretary vows to get to the bottom of the hospital scandal that's rocked his agency. shinseki writes in part "you and your families deserve to have full faith in your va and we intend to earn it every day. shinseki goes on to say if any allegations under review are substantiated, we will act." his letter comes as a new cbs news poll shows americans are split on whether shinseki should keep his job. 45% feel he should resigned compared to 31% who say shinseki should remain in the obama administration. but some of washington's top lawmakers say the issue runs much deeper than one man.

>> some of this is the system and just changing people at the top may appear to represent change but it's the culture, it's the system, and it's the challenge that they face. >> this isn't about one person. this isn't about the secretary. it's about the entire system underneath him. and the general can leave and we can wait around for months to go through a nomination process and we get a new person but the disaster continues. >> complicated situation. i want to bring in tom foreman to help us parse this out. tom, the delays facing the va patients have been disgraceful and dishonorable. you found the agency has tried to remedy some long standing issues so tell us about that. >> reporter: you hit the word right there, carol. long standing. there's no mistake about this.

va hospitals have been under fire for decades about substandard care, about crumbling facilities, about having problems out there and red tape but since the 1990s real strides have been made to address these complaints so much so that studies show there have been real improvements in some areas in the va hospitals. this is where they compare favorably to the other hospitals that we use. in general surgery and vascular surgery and cardio surgery, they generally compare pretty well with some other ones out there, carol. >> so the main issue here really is the time it takes to get care as opposed to the quality of the care itself. >> this is the breaking point on this. what you have is these allegations particularly in phoenix. the goal according to these whistle blowers was to get people in in 14 days to make this thing work but that was not happening even though the paperwork said that. in reality some veterans waited six months, nine months, 21

months to get an appointment. we compared that with a study in recent years of what was happening in other normal hospitals that the rest of us use and in many places, seattle, los angeles, dallas, boston, chicago, washington, d.c., many regular procedures that many of us might need in a hospital, we can get in within a matter of days. 9, 12, 15 days. that's the problem. vets are not getting that kind of access even if the care might be pretty good when they get there. carol? >> tom foreman, thanks so much. still to come in the "newsroom," residents in california are outraged over three deadly officer-involved shootings since march. the most recent killing caught on camera. the victims' weapon, a pair of garden shoes. other vo) when i was pregnant ...i got lots of advice, but i needed information i could trust. unitedhealthcare's innovative, simple program helps moms stay on track with their doctors to get the right care and guidance. (anncr vo) that's health in numbers.

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the police chief in california understands the anger over recent officer-involved shootings. not enough to calm frustration that sparked protests this week. residents accuse police of brutality and racism. the most recent shooting was tuesday afternoon and it was captured on tape. i want to warn you this footage

is disturbing. you couldn't see much there but you heard it. police say they opened fire after a suspect swung a pair of garden sheers at them. at a press conference the police chief revealed video showing the shooting from a different angle. dan simon is in california following this story. good morning. >> reporter: good morning, carol. there are two separate stories here. there's the shooting itself and then there's the growing tension in that community between the white police officers and a largely latino community. let's first talk about the shooting. when some people look at that, people in that community are looking at that video saying, well, this is a suspect who doesn't seem to be posing a deadly threat to the police officers. that's their interpretation that he has his back turned to them. you know, when you hear the

police chief not surprisingly he has a different take. this is a suspect holding what he says is a very large weapon. a pair of garden shears and according to the police chief before the shooting the suspect plants his foot and begins to pivot toward those police officers. here's what he said during that news conference. >> it's a pretty common item. we see it all the time. it's a gardening implement but in the manner it is presented in front of the officers to the victim this clearly is a weapon and a dangerous one. and in the way it's being manipulated. that tells the officer something about the intent of the suspect. >> reporter: people in that community, the latino community, say it did not have to happen. they say this is a growing pattern with police officers in that community and they staged a very large protest following that shooting. during that protest there was actually another shooting where a man died. it wasn't a police shooting but

when officers arrived, some people in the crowd began throwing things at those officers hitting one officer in the head with a bottle. that's what we're looking at in that community right now. the tension is really building. one community activist put it this way. >> there's a feeling of being marginalized and feeling of being discriminated against and a feeling of not counting and not being a human being. there's more that's done for a bear that's loose out in the wilderness that is now in the city than for a life that is walking along a street. >> reporter: more protests are planned this weekend. things are not dying down. the police department says they are investigating this shooting and the two others and that they will forward the findings to both the fbi and the department of justice but things really bubbling in this farming community in central california again another protest planned for this sunday. we'll send it back to you. >> dan simon reporting live from

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more jobs at hewlett packard. the company has lost revenue for 11 straight quarters and after earnings came in below expectation, hewlett packard announce it would cut 16,000 jobs worldwide. the company trimmed 24,000 jobs in a restructuring plan two years ago. thank you so much for joining me today. i'm carol costello. "@ this hour" with berman and michaela starts now. >> you have absolutely no clue what she went through to say things and say that she was lying or she's doing this. >> michelle knight was held prisoner for almost a decade voicing her support for another girl that allegedly kidnapped and held for years. you'll hear her emotional response. then -- >> we were all prejudice in one way or the other. >> no secret recording. no v. stiff anno