1 billion roman catholics arriving in jordan waiting to walk down the steps. we'll see him on the red carpet that's laid out to him. he has quite a schedule. at least 30 engagements. he'll meet with jewish and muslim leaders. he's only there for three days. >> becky anderson is with us on the phone now. becky, the pope is beloved. we saw the outpouring of love on the trip to brazil. he is the first pope in latin

america. what will we expect on this trip? maybe a different scene? >> yeah, it's going to be an interesting one. across the region, in fact. certainly not for the fainthearted. a sense of what will happen here. relations between muslims and christian minorities are am melickable on the whole. a warm welcome. he will be welcomes by the chief and ambassador of jordan. received by the prince and students. he's going to come on to the palace where i'm with a small group of people who have gotten

the opportunity to be at the meeting with prince, sorry, king abdullah ii. from there, he gos on to the first of two masses, at the stadium in the city. then, perhaps, you get the first walk. there's going to be a number of controversy yaial stops on this tour. he's called it his pilgrimage of prayer. they say he stops and believes jesus was baptized on the banks of the river jordan. which side is widely contested within the christian church. and let me tell you -- >> becky. >> we have pope francis here arriving about to set foot here in the middle east for his first official visit. as you said, could be very

controversial. we know his first meeting today, after these pleasantries here will be with the king and queen of jordan. a courtesy visit. you see here, custom by children. the pope is traveling with both christian friend and a muslim friend, both advisers here. do you think that is strategy or, indeed, just bringing along two people who, i guess, any religious leader would take with him? >> reporter: let me tell you, they are very old friends. he co-wrote a book with them. i have no doubt there is some strategy in this.

it's very much a dialogue. originally, this was about a 50th anniversary of two branches of christianity and he'll be meeting with, again, a controversial meeting with the patriarch here, bartholomew. traveling with these two bodies gives the impression and hopes will spread the word of peace. as i pointed out in the beginning, this is all amid the peace process. he's meeting with abass when he gets across the border. he's looking to meet with the israeli prime minister as well. when i say controversial, that's the context of this middle east region. look for pretty interesting speeches and stops on what is this two and a half day tour.

>> becky, we are seeing him do what he does best and what he loves most, being close to people, talking to people. we understand he is -- he is not going to use bullet proof vehicles on this trip. he is shunned high security, i read so he can be quote, close to the people. >> yeah. >> what do you make of that on this trip? how dangerous might the trip be? we heard there's graffiti saying death to arabs and christians and all those who hate israel. what is the concern for him? >> you are correct. that is on the walls of the catholic center he will be holding a meeting at. it's all been gotten rid of now. certainly, in a country where security is always very, very tight, they will be confirmed. this is a man, who we know is very modest. he loves getting amongst the

people. 25,000 people at the stadium in two hours time. he'll do a tour. he'll be coming in today in what is a red pope vehicle. within a motorcade, that is what they use on the previous papal visits here. yes, i think security will be absolutely paramount to those who are looking after him here. this is a man who does not shy away from getting amongst the people. as i said, he's a very modest man. who will want to be meeting and greeting. he has 400 kids on the banks of the river jordon. it will be their first baptism. this is a very important trip for them as far as security is concerned, it could be tough. >> becky, i know you are going

to walk us through is throughout the morning. thank you for taking the time. live pictures of the pope walking down the red carpet from his plane in aman, jordan. we'll take you live to the mass in amman at 9:00. do not expect to see the crowd of 3 million like we saw in rio de janeiro. part is because of the population and also the number of christians and the popularity of the pope in that country. we'll take you to that when it happens at 9:00 a.m. eastern. >> hundreds of people are stuck away from home because of a forest fire. it's burned more than 8,000 acres. take a look at this, what's burning here near flagstaff, arizona. this area is known for stunning landscapes. a tourist hot spot. it's home to a lot of retirees.

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can you believe it? it's been 78 days now since the malaysian plane disappeared. the satellite company that gave out the information that established the pings says it's been given all the ra data to malaysian authorities. >> the submersable, bluefin-21 is looking in the same area where searchers believe they heard pings. cnn correspondent richard quest has details. >> reporter: for days now, we have been awaiting the publication of the so-called data. this vital piece of raw data that explains why the satellite company and the investigators

under searches believe mh-370 flew south deep into the indian ocean. they compiled the raw data along with notes where it's combined with other information. what's not clear is why it's taking so long for the malaysians to release the information. it's believed discussions have gone backwards and forwards to discuss the exact right amount to give out. give away too much and you confuse everybody. with a mass of computer numbers that would be meangless. give away too little and you don't make it possible for people to understand how they came to the results they have come to. getting it right is essential because they have to build confidence of the families and other people who criticize the very foundations of the search operation. it's expected the information will be released next week.

richard quest, cnn london. >> richard, thank you very much. sara's partner, phillip was on that plane. she tweeted. you said you would release all raw, unedited data. why such delays. >> you said if they release too much information they would confuse people. it's day 78. the people who seem to be confused are those analyzing the data. what do you think about the release of the information? >> thank you for raising that point. it is exactly what i wanted to talk about. i think that the general population does need a package.

the experts are capableover handling that data. some of these people have been able to re-engineer some of the mathematical models by taking a set of assumptions and going babward. itis for more complex. i take it as one more way to try to keep as much from the public as possible. until we have 100% disclosure where third parties can go in and do proper side verification, i don't think anybody is going to trust that is investigation is going forward properly. >> let me ask you this, sarah, do you think malaysian officials aren't forth coming with the data because it might show they are searching in the wrong area? do you fear that? >> i do believe that is why they

are with holding information. they are afraid all the information might lead to a different conclusion, then they would look back. if you think about a practical issue like taxes. when the irs says we are not sure we like the results you have given us, something isn't right in your numbers. they don't let you choose which record you look at. you have to open everything. give them all your bank accounts. you can't say all the pieces of detail out of my 20 different bank accounts is going to be too confusing for you, irs, i don't want to give it to you. i think it's a ridiculous statement to say they want to protect the public by with holding information again. >> to that end, sarah, inmarsat released all the raw data to the malaysians. what is your degree of confidence the malaysians will, in fact, release all they were

given? >> i do not have confidence that the malaysians will release all they were given. i would like to be able to interface, not personally, but have third party people interface directly with inmarsat to determine what they released. everybody uses this word raw data. there's no definition to it or set of parameters to it. there are a number of experts in the industry that released per am ter sets that would be necessary to do proper calculations. they need the same kind of information the original calculation was done on. this is keeping with what the malaysian government has done the whole way through. they have not released raw data as most would expect. anywhere else in the world, you would have this up to front. air traffic control recordings, not an edited version of it.

not the edited version of inmarsat or radar. real information. but, yet, somehow the malaysians continue to package the information before giving it out, i think for covering things up. >> we can't imagine what this has been like for you. thank you so much for sharing with us what your thoughts are at this moment and going forward. we'll keep talking to you. thank you for taking time for us. >> thank you. 78 days and nothing. >> it's nuts. another big accident averted at houston's airport. two flights came close to each other. why did it happen and how often does it happen? we'll have that conversation ahead with our panel of experts. o mission a for a final go. this is for real this time. step seven point two one two. verify and lock. command is locked. five seconds.

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31 minutes past the hour, not that you are looking at the clock on a saturday morning. >> not this saturday, anyway. >> let's start with five things you need to know. number one, pope francis is in amman. a rabbi and muslim cleric are joining him on the trip to jordan, bethlehem and jerusalem.

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years ago. inmarsat, a satellite company says it has given all missing data of flight 370 logs to authorities. the data may be released to families of passengers soon. meanwhile, blue fin-21 is searching for mh-370 where they believe they heard pings from the black boxes. >> the data is giving families, as you just heard, of passengers skepticism. there are some that have hope they are a step closer to seeing this information. >> yes, but malaysian authorities may release only, possibly, an edited version of the data. let's bring in david souse and mary skiavo.

>> good morning. >> we had some reporting from richard quest, malaysian authorities believe releasing the raw data would confuse people. what do you think about that and the idea they are going to release edited data? >> i think he's underestimating what people would think. here is the problem. satellite data is not something simple. satellite information and communication involves a lot of components. they contribute to the data. for example, honeywell goes on board the aircraft, the earth satellite. what that does is communicates the information between each other. that information will not be part of the set of information inmarsat releases. itis not theirs to give. for example, it is honeywell mhs 4200 in the aircraft? we don't know that. it won't be part of the data. without it, i'm afraid they

won't come up with the conclusions. >> that reporting came from the malaysian authorities. they believe releasing that information would confuse people. i didn't want to put words in his mouth. it's reporting from a source in malays malaysia. we want to move on to the story of two massive jets that came less than an hour. this is the second time planes came so close together. the first was the flight out of hawaii. audio data confirms this incident is because of instructions given to the pilots from the control tower. mary, a lot of people say gosh, with the advancements in technology, how does this happen? >> this is a controller error. there was a third one in newark releases. there are 4,000 a year. 50 of them, 44 or 47 of them to be serious. anytime a plane comes so close to one another, they are a few

hundred feet apart, several things. a mistake, violation of regulations and three without the on board safety equipment they could have experienced a collision. they have equipment that cannot override some situations with they are too close together. very, very serious and a mistake by the government. >> this happens more often than people realize. we have numbers from 2011. close to 1900 events categorized as near misses. that phrasing, i don't understand. near miss is a hit. 2012, that number jumped to 4400. why the jump and why is this getting worse, not better. there was a report examined in 2009 and 2010. the way it was reported, there is automatic reporting that isn't there before. regardless of how it's reported,

there is an increase in incidents. i believe it's due to the fact there's more traffic, more going on. the air space is continuely getting stronger and stronger. although more crowded. the president who i interviewed this week said it's expected to double. air traffic will double in the next 20 years. very concerning to me. >> let's talk about that. increasing air traffic coupled with a shortage of controllers. mary, quickly, how much stress is there for, you know, air traffic in general? >> well, in the united states, we haven't seen a dramatic increase in the number of aircraft. it's occurring worldwide, the huge increases. in the united states, the problems are a problem with the federal aviation administration and they have tried to put things in place to improve but they haven't yet.

shortage of air traffic controllers is coming up. the part about the performance, that is an faa problem and they have acknowledged it. they haven't fixed it, but acknowledged it. >> thank you. we appreciate you both being here. thank you. >> thank you. >> thank you. also this morning, pope francis in the middle east just landed at the top of the hour. >> his first visit as pontiff for the holy land. we are going live to amman, jordan, where he is, nx. i make a lot of purchases for my business.

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morning out of california, seven people are reported dead, seven others hospitalized after a drive-by shooting near the university of california santa barbara in the college town of i la vista. it's from keyt. >> the incident happened about 9:30 p.m. last night, pacific time. about 12:30 in the morning for those of us on east coast time. witnesses reported seeing a gunfire or seeing gunfire coming through from a black bmw. the local sheriff is saying the car's driver is believed to be the gunman and that he is included in the deceased. again, this is a developing situation that happened in the overnight hours. seven people dead in california, near uc santa barbara. >> seven hospitalized, as we said. you are seeing map of the area here. if you know about the larger state schools, there are

apartment buildings, students who don't live on campus live in tight quarters around the campus. 9:30 on a friday night at the end of semester. there could be a lot of students out celebrating the end of finals, celebrating graduation. we are keeping an eye on this. we do not know too much information about suspects, arrests at this moment. we have our team working on this right now. if you are just joining us in the last couple seconds, seven dead reported by our affiliate there in santa barbara. also, seven hospitalized after reports of a drive by shooting near the school of university of california, santa barbara. >> we are going to update, take a quick break and be back with more in a moment. stay close. okay, listen up! i'm re-workin' the menu.

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well, the head of the roman catholic church is reaching out to the world's muslim's and jews. this is an historic visit. >> it is, the pope is in amman, jordan. he is getting the red carpet treatment. amman is set to start now. international correspondent becky anderson joins us on the phone from amman. also joining us, john allen. he's traveling with the pope. sorry about that, becky. >> let's talk to john. tell us about the significance of the pope's visit and what's

on the agenda for today. >> reporter: well, today, he is of course in the jordan capital of amman. while the stops in israel are directed to israelis and the broader jewish community to stop in palestine and bethlehem. today is only a platform for the pope to address not just jordan, but the middle east, the international community and the muslim world. a couple things we expect to put on the table in that conversation would be concern for the swelling refugee community here in jordan. the associated press reports the real total is closer to 1.3 million. there's a huge population of iraqi refugees. we expect him to touch on that

and religious freedoms. they represent 5% of the population. rising tides of islamic extremism in the nation. we expect that to be, too. >> becky, this is obviously a very, john calls it a political high wire act. the number of christians had dropped considerably in that region. do you think that's another reason for this trip? >> reporter: yeah, i wouldn't doubt that. 25,000 at the stadium. he has got 1400 kids there who will be given their first holy communion. this is very long and i think a lot of people here hope it won't be short on substance. he will be, i'm sure, addressing the syrian refugees there.

sources tell me there could be 1.3 million in the country. that's a huge strain on resources, if nothing else for the jordanians. destabilizing the effects for the economy. the red carpet is rolled out at the palace. we are here at the palace. the prayer is about to be received by the king and queen. it's after this, it's symbolic. relations between christians and muslims in jordan are pretty amlicable. getting to the bank of the river jordan where christ was baptized. at that point, it's going to be very interesting. he points out, priests and palestinians have been his first

focal points for foreign policy. he's on record saying they face it. it's religious, not political pilgrimage of prayer. i don't think he's going to get away with headlines that don't have an edge. >> john and becky. so appreciate the reports. thank you this morning. first of all, we are going to keep you updated on what's happening in california. seven people are dead in a drive by shooting near uc santa barbara. we are going to look at that. when we talk about, i guess hollywood -- >> there's a lot going on this weekend. hollywood has gone to italy for the kimye wedding. we are going to talk about that. kim kardashian's wedding might overdo a royal wedding.

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included in the deceased. victoria, what do you know this hour? >> what we know is gunshots, multiple gunshots were heard about 9:27. with that was multiple locations in isla vista. isla vista is a small town adjacent to uc santa barbara. it is a college town and people are out enjoying themselves. we heard initial 927 gunshots that went for about ten minutes. in that span of ten minutes, seven people were killed, seven sent to the hospital. among the seven is the suspect involved in multiple shootings with the sheriff's deputies. we are not told whether the gunshot he died from was from sheriff's deputies changing fire with him or self-inflicted gunshot wound. >> are you getting from the

sheriff there, bill brown that is suspect has been shot and killed? just confirming that. >> reporter: yes. we are not sure if it's sheriff's deputies or self-inflicted gunshot wounds. >> do we know if any of the seven killed or the seven in the hospital there are members of the sheriff's department? >> reporter: no, no one from the sheriff's department was injured in the gunfire. >> what do you know, what is the sheriff telling you about a motive? what do we know about the shooter? >> reporter: no motive now. they are looking into videos and written statements by the suspect before this shooting. they are not letting us know the name. we have found some information online of a possible suspect, however, we have not got that confirmed. youtube videos telling people of

retribution to ucsb students. again, that is not confirmed. the sheriff did tell us he is looking into videos and written statements by the suspect. >> just to clarify, the sheriff's department is looking into the possibility that this was retribution, it was a revenge killing of some sort? >> reporter: yes. he's calling it a mass murder. he said this is something from a madman that is direct words from sheriff bill brown. >> did he say, victoria, whether there was a specific victim that he was targeting or just generally wanting to kill people? >> reporter: he has not said anything like that. from videos we have seen, we have looked up in the video, again, this is not confirmed, just what we found, the victim said this would be retribution to ucsb female students. however, that is not confirmed.

>> if there was a video online, if it's not confirmed, we don't want to prematurely prosecutor or persecute a person because of a video. we could find it is connected, but at this point we don't know. let me ask you another question, victoria. as it relates to this suspect, are we getting from the sheriff, rather, he acted alone and the threat has now been controlled? >> reporter: the sheriff did tell us this was a lone gunman. he said this was the only person in the car. however, we have heard from multiple witnesses that there was a second person in the car, however, the sheriff is telling us he acted alone. but, a girl that i spoke to, who actually was shot at is a santa barbara city college student. many students that go to both schools, live in the small college town of isla vista. she was shot at and told me she

saw a second person in the car. the sheriff's department is saying he acted alone. this is information we are trying to get sorted out. >> who exactly were you able to talk to at the scene and what were they saying about the moments in that ten minute that is the shooter was shooting? we were reading online that the sheriff's department initially came out and said listen people, stay inside. keep your doors and windows closed. do not come out, we have an active shooting situation and didn't know how secure it was. >> reporter: right. what happened is this happened in the span of ten minutes. happened in multiple blocks. this person was in a vehicle driving, so they were able to get from place-to-place rather quickly in a small college town. they told everybody to stay inside. the people i talked to, i spoke with multiple people, people working in restaurants saying they heard gunshots and patrons of the restaurant were running inside to try to get away from the gunfire. that was one person.

i spoke to another person who saw a girl get shot in the leg. he said he saw someone pointing a gun at a girl on the corner by 7-eleven. another person i spoke to who did not have shoes on, ran from the area, was walking down the street said somebody in a black bmw was trying to talk to her. she was walking away. he pulled out a gun. she said it looked like a small handgun, black handgun and shot at her. she told me she felt the bullet go past her face and she ran. as she was running, two more gunshots fired at her. luckily, she was not hit, was able to go to a neighboring house and on her way, when she was running there, she dropped her phone and other items just to get away from the shooter. when she got back, grabbed her phone, it was shattered and found sheriff's deputies. >> if you are just joining us, we want you to understand, a shooting in the small town of

isla vista near the campus of uc santa barbara. seven confirmed dead there. seven reportedly in a hospital in the area. we have on the phone with us, reporter, victoria sanchez of cnn affiliate, keyt. the shooter in this case, according to a news conference and a conversation she had with the sheriff there, bill brown, the shooter has been killed. the sheriff says this person acted alone. victoria, my question to you, the sheriff says the shooting went on for ten minutes and it went on through multiple blocks and multiple areas. how many crime scenes are we talking about here? one large area where the shooting was continuous or, as it would allude to from this conversation the shooter reportedly had there were shootings in one area, drive to another area, continue shooting in that pattern.

how many areas? >> reporter: that's exactly right. we are looking upwards, where i walked to, i saw four. we are thinking upwards of five, six, seven dichfferent areas whe the shootings took place. isla vista, a small, college town. many areas are cordening off. >> has the sheriff said because i know your team is doing reporting. i want to rely on what the sheriff said. do we know if the dead suspect was a student at uc santa barbara? >> reporter: they are not letting us know. they are not identifying him in any way. they are saying it's a male driving a car who had a gun. that's it. no names, no school, letting us know if he was a student at ucsb. they are not letting us know that information. >> seven people dead, seven in

the hospital. do we know the condition of any of those hospitalized? how sere youz is it for them? >> they didn't let us know. one person has undergone surgery. that's the extebt of what we know. at least one person might have been hit by a vehicle. other than that, they are not letting us know the condition of the victims. >> how many weapons? do we know what kind of weapons were used and how many? >> reporter: right now, they confirmed they found one weapon in the vehicle with the suspect. i see on the bottom of the screen, a quote from the sheriff, a premed dated mass murder. on what is that based? the idea this was premeditate snd. >> i'm not sure if he said premeditated. he said mass murder. he said it was like a madman. that's all. they are saying they had -- they are investigating written and

video of this murder. that's all he's letting us know about that. >> i was reading, again, on some of the local media there that, and correct me if i'm wrong, the black bmw involved slammed into as many as two cars. you mentioned that the car may have actually hit a person as well. did it seem, at any point that this driver, the shooter was using the car as a weapon as well? >> it doesn't sound like that as of now. what it sounds like is that he could possibly have been evading police, which is when the accident happened. it doesn't look like he had been using the weapon, the vehicle as a weapon other than a mode of transportation. >> has the sheriff's department said if the vehicle was stolen or belonged to the suspect? >> reporter: he's not said anything about the vehicle. >> all right. >> can you give us an idea, a typical friday night, a college

town near a state school. what are the streets like at 9:30, typically on a friday in santa barbara. >> reporter: friday night, we were close to graduation and finals, which is going to make the population on the street a little bit less, but on a typical friday night in isla vista, a lot of people are out and about. a lot of people out walking on the sidewalk, riding their bikes. plenty of bicycles in isla vista. it's a town that is very small. you can walk place to place to place very easily. not a lot of people use their vehicles because they can walk a few blocks to their house, their friends house or campus. friday night is popular with people walking to and from different parties and restaurants in the area. tonight, from what i saw out there, a lot of people standing around in shock that were walking around to friend's houses and stopped in the middle

of the street wondering what happened to isla vista. >> you have to imagine how jo jolting that is. thank you for bringing us the latest from your vantage point since you have been there overnight. we are going to stay on the shooting. seven people dead, seven in the hospital. the sheriff calling this, because of a mass murder by a madman near the uc santa barbara campus in the city or the college town of isla vista. again, it lasted about ten minutes. it is under control. it doesn't sound as though they are looking for anybody else. the shooter, they believe to be dead as well. as we get more information from the sheriff's department, we will pass it on to you. another big story we are following this morning, arizona, a massive wildfire turning one of the country's most beautiful places, if you have ever been there, into kindling. >> this is near flagstaff.

you are right, it's a gorgeous area. burned 8500 acres so far. people have been evacuated from homes and vacation cabins. hundreds of firefighters are battling what's dubbed the slide fire. anna? >> cooler and calmer weather helped firefighters make progress on this massive wildfire. we had a chance to go into the fire zone. we saw a still very active fire with the fire fight far from over. the heart of a fire is an inferno, powerful, unpredictable, no match for man. to confront these flames, crews are fighting fire with fire. this smoke is from burnout operation, controlled burns to get ahead of the fire by eliminating the fuel. >> nearly 1,000 firefighters are badling the blaze. it's charred 7500 acres of rocky

forestland. how challenging is the terrain? >> extremely challenging. >> reporter: this is where trees are torching. we watched as the fire made a run up a canyon wall. it's a challenge to keep the fire from crossing the road edging closer to hundreds of homes. the steep, rugged terrain makes it too dangerous for people. that's why they have the helicopters. nine helicopters are part of the air attack dousing the flames with 2,000 gallons of water in each run. the elite, highly trained hot shot firefighters are on the ground watching the weather, especially the winds. it wasn't even a year ago a deadly yarnell fire claimed the lives of colleagues. >> back to the basics, be prepared. make sure there are escape routes and safety zones. they are evaluating them so they have a place to go.

>> reporter: over communication is the rule of thumb. safety reign supreme with firefighters and evacuees. are you worried about your house? >> not at all. >> reporter: why is that? >> they are material and can be replaced. the kids, the pets, the photos can't be replaced. >> reporter: so far, no homes lost. no small feat to control the flames. it's the combination of weather and terrain making it difficult for firefighters to contain the fire. we are told to get the fire fully contained, it could be seven to ten days. >> ana, thank you so much. of course, we need to look at how the weather plays into this. the winds, the heat, the humidity, i mean those three things are important when it comes to fighting the fire. >> meteorologist, jennifer gray has all that for us. >> we have been talking to you about the weather.

ift is very, very dry. 76% of the state in severe drought, 8% in extreme. this is from may 20th. not a good situation there. the humidity is expected to continue to decrease throughout the day. 62% right now in flagstaff. 27% in phoenix. that is going to drop as we go throughout the day today. it's going to stay very, very dry for today, tomorrow and also monday. winds are also going to be an issue just like ana said. 13-mile-per-hour winds by this afternoon. we could see the winds up to 20 as we get throughout the day on sunday. so, the winds are going to be increasing. no rain in the forecast and temperatures are going to steadily warm up. 59 today. 77 on monday. that's almost a 20 degree temperature increase. guys, dry, hot, windy, not the conditions you want when you are trying to fight the fires that's only 5% contained right now. >> jennifer, thank you so much. cooked books, delayed wait

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this visit, why? >> reporter: well, you think about all that's on the pontiff's plate, it's a short, 20-day visit. he's trying to give a shot in the arm with the christian minority which is 20% of the population now less than 5%. economic and political difficultie difficulties. in some countries, it's making life difficult. he's trying to promote healing in the divided christian family. the purpose of the visit is for the pope to meet bartholomew to heal things that date way back. he's going to think of himself as peacemaker. he wants to promote reconciliation and, if that's not enough, he also wants to improve relations with muslims and jews at the same time.

after that, he can leap tall buildings and call it a trip. >> as victor alluded to, this is a dicey region. the pope, as we know, loves to be quote, close to the people. he wants to do that on the trip. he does not want to use -- he's rejecting the use of bullet proof vehicles, high security. what do you know about that and how dangerous is it for him? >> reporter: well, i can tell you for sure, each of the places he's going, jordan, the palestinian territories in jordan and israel have no interest at all. he's on their territory. they will try to keep him safe. that said, you are right, the pope decided not to travel around in armor plated cars. he's going to do public appearances in the same kind of open air jeep he uses.

he's a spontaneous figure and likes to plunge into crowds, slap backs and kiss babies. we'll see that going on here. he will be exposed. the local officials i talked to said that they are going to pull out all of the stops to make sure he is secure. >> all right. john allen, we appreciate your reporting. thank you so much. we'll talk with him throughout the morning as the pope continues and gets immersed in this three-day trip. >> historic, indeed. something else happening this morning. the calls for eric shinseki to resign. the calls are getting louder. he says he's not going anywhere. >> who should be held accountable for the alleged cover up? that is next.

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the allegations are serious here. at least 26 facilities under investigation right now. the v.a. admits at least 23 veterans died because of delayed care and up to 40 deaths are under investigation. >> at some facilities, employees are accused of keeping secret waiting lists to cover up the long wait times. the whistle blower who spoke to drew griffin is speaking out again. >> meanwhile, calls for eric shinseki to resign are getting louder. i want to bring in paul bud buca. thank you so much for being here with us. we appreciate it and appreciate your service. >> thank you very much, appreciate it. >> of course. in your opinion, who do you think needs to be held accountable here? >> there's plenty of blame to spread around. for example, congress, months

ago, a committee out of the senate, unanimous vote approved linda schwartz, a recognized expert for the veteran's community to become the assistant secretary of veterans affairs for policy planning, but we can't get the senate to have a vote. the senate can have a vote, 50 of them, got together to decide what to tell the football team owner what to do with the name of their team, but can't get 5 50 to stand-up and vote. there's plenty of blame to go around. what you need is a leader of integrity. he's a man of integrity. he has no other agenda other than the serve the exact same people he staffed. we need an honest and courageous

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service connected conditions or the current strengths repairing weaknesses. if so, many medical centers need more financial resources in addition to administrative refort. in which direction do you think the v.a. should go or do you think they can do both? >> the v.a. has to continue on the path it is on, to give them what they were promised. when they take oath, it says you will get health care for life if you survive these wars. the only mistake, if you will, it seems silly to say, the veterans survived and are coming in to collection. in the last three years, the demand on the v.a. medical centers have gone up 25%. the staff increases have been less than 7%. all the veteran service organizations have been informed they were $2.5 billion underfunded.

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32 minutes past the hour right now. i'm christi paul. >> i'm victor blackwell. we are following breaking news out of california. seven people confirmed dead and several others hospitalized after a shooting in a college town of isla vista next to uv santa barbara. the sheriff is calling the event a mass murder. >> by a madman. >> yes. >> it happened about 9:30 last night in isla vista. witnesses reported seeing

gunfire from a black bmw. the gunman has been identified, but they are not releasing details on that. hln law enforcement analyst mike brooks joining us by phone. mike, it seems the threat of other shootings is squashed, at least for now. do you believe they are looking for any other shooters or they believe this is the lone shooter? >> reporter: it looks, right now, like they believe this is the lone shooter. he was seen as a number of different locations around isla vista. it has somewhere between four and eight crime scenes established. apparently, he exchanged gunfire with the sheriff's deputies and crashed into at least two cars. when they found him, he was dead of gunshot wounds. they don't know if it was exchange with deputies or self-inflicted. this is the only guy they are

looking for and he is deceased. >> the sheriff says and we are just getting this, nine different crime scenes. you have a college town on a friday night and a very large crime scene, several crime scenes, how do you manage that? what's going on now? >> reporter: a lot of manpower, a lot of manpower. that's why it's going to take a lot of time. each time someone was shot, each crime scene, especially when you are mobile in a black bmw, i have been on the streets of isla vista. it's downtown santa barbara, very congested, known as a party spot. it's why law enforcement responded so quickly. when this initially happened, they were warning people to stay off the streets. you have this guy in a car riding around, near the university, firing shots. but, it's just a tough thing to do when you have at least nine crime scenes.

so, i'm sure the sheriff is getting extra help in there to try to manage the crime scenes. they have their work cut out for them. >> this is what's probably interesting to you. the fact that this lasted for ten minutes. when you think about it, that's a long time to be driving around shooting at people. how do you think it is they weren't able to get to him sooner. >> reporter: you have a shooting, he takes off, another shooting, takes off. think about it, ten minutes is a long time, but 14 people were shot, seven dead and seven wounded with nine crime scenes. that's why it's so spread out in this isla vista area near the university. it took law enforcement probably a little bit of time to find out what is this? we are getting reports of a black bmw, then you have to

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39 minutes past the hour. let's talk about politics and the ongoing divide inside the republican party between the establishment and the tea partiers. we want to look at what we learned from this week's primaries. tea party rents didn't do so well. they put up a fight causing the base to have a shift to the right to be competitive. >> let's bring in amy. she's in studio with us and editor of blackchic.com. i'm going to start with you. considering the results from tuesday night, is the tea party over? >> absolutely not. it's not over. we are still alive and look, they have actually the establishment hijacked our message. we have already won because we changed the political landscape across the country, especially

in washington, d.c. we changed the narrative. six years ago, nobody was talking about cutting spending and reigning in the massive debt we have. now, that's what both sides of the aisle are talking about. >> some of the decisions made by kentucky senator mitch mcconnell would not have come about if he didn't think he has a threat from the tea party challenger. if the tea party candidates cannot win, do they need to pay lip service? >> there have been tea partiers that won. ben in nebraska, a republican primary in west virginia. it may not be some of the high profile races, but look, the movement has changed. we are evolving. people are focused on local and state level. that's not journalism.

people are not reporting on that. there are victories across the country that people aren't talking about. we have won some of the high profile races and i believe we'll win more. >> we talk about the primaries and how they were a win for the establishment. maybe in the short term. what do you think that is going to have on the chance of taking the white house for 2016? >> well, i want to go back to what amy said. she's exactly right, if it weren't for the tea party, republicans wouldn't have been brought back to life in 2010. everybody forgets that. the tea party, like amy said, got us back on message, got us back to the party of principles known for reduced spending, less taxation. those are the tenants. because of the tea party and grass roots efforts started by people like amy, republicans were able to take on what? over 50 seats in congress.

unprecedented seat gain. the problem is, however, for the tea party now is they have to navigate the next phase. it's not enough to just challenge people. challenges are good. nothing noble saying you serve 20, 30, 40 years. mitch mcconnell is going to have a tough race against alison grimes. she represents the future face of america. she's a woman and young. it's something as a party, that's going to be the challenge for the republican party heading into 2016. we look very much like the face of white america. as you guys know, i talk about this all the time, the tea party, i think, was really instrumental in channelling candidates like alan west. we have to bring more people in. if you think about it, it's what the tea party was good at. bringing people who never ran for office into the fold of

conservatism. i think, as amy pointed out, as they navigate the next phase, that should be part of it. they are not going away. at the end of the day, whether you are a republican or conservative, we are picking the right candidates we feel can represent us in the races. >> i wonder if the republican party establishment would call allen west a one and done because when he came in, then a challenger came up and he lost. let's listen to what john boehner had to say. is there's not that big of a difference between the tea party and your average conservative republican. you know? we think taxes are too high and the government is too big. i wouldn't continue to sing that same song. >> i wonder if that was the same thing we are hearing from speaker boehner during the negotiations over the budget when we had to shut down the

government. my question to you, crystal first, then amy. do you agree there's not that big of a divide? >> no. i think -- look, speaker boehner is doing what he should do as leader of the house. he's trying to bring together the coalition, which is a problem. there's a divide where the tea party needs real work is once you are elected, the work begins with consensus building. we, as republicans can't have everything we want. what looked bad is when senator ted cruz, who was brought into congress through the tea party. we have good folks like rand paul as well, but when ted cruz stood on principle, take away obamacare, he got nothing out of it. they need to get more focused. push leadership to go for better policy, but government is about compromise. i think that's where the tea party falls short.

>> what do you think about the word compromise, amy? >> you can compromise, just not your principles. i disagree with crystal on the ted cruz because they knew exactly what was going to happen. they brought awareness to all the problems. >> right, but amy -- they knew what was going to happen. nothing was going to change. you are not going to get anything changed until we get a republican in the white house. what i would like to see ted cruz do is say focus on repealing, walking back the individual mandate, which we could have accomplished that. instead, it became a circus act around, let's repeal the whole law. you can't repeal something that the supreme court said is constitutional. you can make a good argument for pulling back on the individual mandate. the president already, you know, walked back on the businessman

date. we are not winning. >> the problem is, the problem is, the republicans never fight for anything. these people that have been in office for 30, 40 years, they have been there too long. you cannot lay all this debt at the feet of the democrats. republicans have been part of this. >> i agree with that. >> when they have been there that long, the policy is not working. we need fresh blood. change things up. people want change. they are tired of this. the polls show that there's an anti-incumbency mentality across the country. they are tired of it. >> there stands it divide. >> i'm no longer with tea party express. i just want to correct the record. >> all right. >> amy and crystal thank you both so much for being here. >> thanks. here is a question. how much do we really pay for air fare? seasoned what are we paying for? >> after you add up all t the

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airline baggage fees and reservation change charges. it never stops. >> on and on. >> according to the u.s. department of transportation, listen to this, u.s. airlines raked in $6 billion, billion, in fees for passengers. >> that is fees. possibly there is good news coming. the government wants all of us to have an accurate picture of the full price we pay for travel. it proposed a set of rules like more disclosure from third-party sites and air search like kayak

and google. we have mark murphy joining us now. he is the travel expert and author of "travel unscripted." mark, good to have you, first, and will these change anything or more line items on the bill? >> you will still pay more. the whole thing about fees is it is $36 billion for the airlines in the last year. that is not going away. the challenge is when we shop, how do we know the true cost of travel and that is part of the new rule. they want to be able to show the real cost in the comparison shopping sites. >> okay, this stood out to me. in 2012, they had $98 million in fees. baggage and cancellation fees in 2013, $13 billion in net profits by 26 passenger u.s. airlines. if they are not going away, how

will airlines money if these rules do change? >> well, they will still make money on the fees. i don't think fees will go away. they will try to charge you more and more for other choices you make. it is capitalism. if the passenger is willing to pay for it, they will keep doing it. if the passengers push back and travel demand drops, which i don't see, they may pull it back. one challenge two years ago in 2012, like you mentioned, they tried to, the government came in and said you cannot advertise a base fare without taxes and fees in that fare. they got that passed. now the airline transparency act is trying to get through congress right now. that is actually doing the opposite. it is going to make it so all the fees are broken down and it will make it more confusing for the traveler to choose which airline to fly based on price comparisons. you have two things going on at the same time.

the ability to disclose more fees in the booking process when it comes to baggage and seat selection and the airlines don't want that, but they are pushing for the rollback of the bundled fares with government taxes and fees. you have two things taking place. one is trying to make it easier to shop and one will make it more difficult to shop. >> mark, some of the airline officials are shouting hypocrisy. they claim the requirement in the act allows the government to hide the full extent of its taxation which says the airline industry says could run about 20% of the ticket price. that seems high. do they have a point? >> yeah. no, here's why. i'm not a big fan of getting taxed to death. i want to know when i'm paying taxes. that is disingenuous. the reason they like that is europe that looks like it is et

$500 two years ago. when you went to book it, it is $900. they have all the fees loaded in lots of ways. that rule two tryining to compa shop and you go to book and it is $200 higher and $300 higher not including the baggage. they are using the government taxation exposure as a way of saying here is what the government is charging you for the services, but i don't go there. i don't believe it. i think it is a way for them to hide the true cost of purchasing the ticket. that is not good for consumers. >> all right. mark murphy, not good news. we will still pay more. thank you very much, sir. >> we know what we are paying for. ahead, we have more on the breaking news this morning. a mass shooting near the university of california santa barbara campus. the sheriff there calls it a mass murder. at least seven dead. we will have a report on the latest developments. th ry,

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this is cnn breaking news. >> very startling situation out of california this morning as seven people -- well, 14 people have been shot. good morning. i'm christi paul. we will get you the latest from isla vista. >> i'm victor blackwell. several people shot, including the gunman and several people in the hospital after the sheriff is calling a mass murder. this happened near the town of

isla vista near the uc santa barbara campus. we have our nick valencia here following the story. we have pictures from the affiliate keyt. nick, what have you learned? >> seven dead and seven injured. the shootings took place in the span of ten minutes. in about nine locations. very scary moments. we are seeing a lot of reaction from students at uc santa barbara on social media. sheriffs believe the suspect, also deceased, you are looking at a picture of his car. he crashed into a parked car before exchanging gunfire. he died from a self gunshot wound. the sheriff's office was asked, christi and victor, about a youtube video posted by the suspect. they are looking into it and seeing if this had any connection. i looked at that video.

you have seen the video as well the alleged suspect alludes to being upset and overlooked by g. saying he would carry out retribution because he had a lonely life and he was looked over and looked past by girls he said he tried to make advances on. this situation is still unfolding and developing right now. we do believe the situation, this suspect as i mention, acted alone. we believe the threat to the community is over at this point. the sheriff's office is saying that this may be premeditated mass murder. >> they said he has been mentally disturbed. the sheriff came out and called him a mad man. what about the reports? we heard from keyt reporter earlier, victoria sanchez. there are reports there was somebody else in the car with him at some point. >> some witnesses told local reporters there was another person in the car. the sheriff's office has come out and said the person acted

alone. we don't know about the second person. we looked at the alleged suspect's facebook page to glean anymore details about the individual's life. on this video posted, he mentions he is a 22-year-old student there locally in santa barbara. we don't know if he went to a community college or uc santa barbara. he talks at length about carrying out retribution and he will be a god-like figure and show everyone else as animals. it is chilling as you watch that. he just looks into the camera with no emotion. >> it is all very pointed. >> all very pointed. exactly. sinister laughs. >> there were sinister laughs in what we saw. we don't know for certain that is the suspect. the alleged suspect we know of. i have to think the people on campus are shaken up this morning. >> you think about the crowds out in and around campus on

friday night at 9:30 when this reportedly happened. if you are just joining us, the breaking news out of isla vista, small town near the under of california santa barbara campus. seven people dead, including the alleged shooter, also seven people in hospitals for traumatic injuries. many gunshot wounds. one person has undergone surgery. the sheriff bill brown accounts nine crime scenes as the shooting went on for ten minutes. a semiautomatic handgun recovered in the vehicle. nick valencia is here reporting. they are working to investigate writings and video. one video on youtube by this alleged shooter. >> we are just getting word here that the justice department in d.c. is also getting in on this. our reporters at the justice department. we will look at exactly where it goes from here and what they are able to dig up online and obviously, they will be going to

somebody's home. they will do a lot of work in that record. >> the emotions are still very raw. we are seeing reaction from people tweeting in the community saying i want to go home. very scary. this shouldn't hap n'n't happen. this is known as a party school and social school. >> and a celebratory time. >> a memorial day holiday weekend. terrible. we would like to hear from you. if you are there on campus or in the area and you would like to sent victor or christi or myself tweets to talk about the situation, if you are in the area and would like to talk to us or tweet us, reach out to cnn. >> nick, thank you for your reporting. we appreciate it. obviously, as we continue to get more, we will bring it to you. >> we will have hln law enforcement analyst mike brooks talk to us about how this is investigated. ten-minute rampage. nine scenes. we will get an update from him in a few moments.

also right now, historic visit to the middle east happening at this moment. >> pope francis, the spiritual head of the 1 billion roman catholics is in amman, jordan. he will celebrate mass at the stadium there. these are live pictures coming to us from the stadium. he has been meeting with the jordanian king and queen and top dignitaries. he stepped off the plane a few hours ago. getting the red carpet treatment. >> we have cnn's becky anderson joining us from amman. becky, amman is the first stop on the pope's visit to the middle east. he has a tight schedule for the visits. >> reporter: yes, he has. three days, two masses, 13 speeches. he just made his papal remarks at the palace, which i was in attendance from and now on a motorcade to the stadium for the

full on mass celebrated here in jordan in front of 25,000 people. relations with the pope and minority here in jordan are amicable on the whole. he was greeted by king abdullah and his queen. he said a peaceful solution is needed to the syrian crisis and the israeli palestinian crisis. he commended for seeking a lasting peace for the entire region. very hard pressed to overstate the importance of this visit. his schedule here down on the banks of the river jordan and after the mass at the stadium

and then over the border to meet religious and political leaders. he said this is specifically religious. he said this is not a political trip, but also in his remarks about the syrian crisis and palestinian crisis, there is no doubt this has a political edge. >> we are seeing here -- i apologize. i want to narrate for what we are seeing here. the pope arriving at this stadium in amman. mass schedule to begin at the top of the hour. what is notability here with the visit to rio de janeiro in 2013, this is not one of those typical expensive stately cars we are seeing the pope in. he was in a fiat driving around brazil. he is here in the back of a sedan with a couple of flags on the hood here. >> reporter: correct, as we all are in the motorcade as it makes its way to the stadium. this is a very modest man.

we have seen evidence of that in the way he conducts himself in the vatican and the way he conducted himself on the tour in brazil. a nightmare for security wherever he goes. i'm sure the jordanians are dealing with that as best they can. this man, he wants to get in among the people. we are well aware of that. we have seen much evidence of that. he will do a tour of the stadium when he arrives in a popemobile or some sort of vehicle. he will conduct the mass in front of 25,000 christians invited here. this is a muslim country, but a significant minority of christians here. incredibly important to those. particularly the school children who will get their first holy communion from the pope. imagine that if you are 11 or 12 years old. >> yes.

what an experience. becky anderson. you are looking at live pictures from amman, jordan. the pope just arrived. you can see how that place will explode with applause here in a couple of minutes when he walks in as the 25,000 people have been waiting for him. here he is getting into the popemobile. as he is known to do without the glass around him, without that security. he said going into this that he wants to be close to the people. that is a quote. that is what he will continue to do. we will watch this throughout the morning and bring you the latest as he continues this historic three-day trip and this being the beginning this morning. the satellite company now on day 78 of the image 370 mystery. the satellite company inmarsat from the missing malaysia plane says they have given all the raw data to the malaysian authorities, but the families of the passengers, they have not

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masbeck. good to have you about us this morning. >> thank you. >> mary, the searchers there are looking for the plane and the black boxes in the southern indian ocean. what is your degree of confidence now on day 78 they are looking in the right place? >> well, you cannot have a great degree of confidence because they have not found anything yet, but the same token, they have not looked in all areas they picked up ping signals. the bluefin could not go deep enough in the area and could not finish the job. the delay in releasing the inmarsat data which the malaysian authorities which said they did not have and inmarsat said they had it all along does cause suspicion. w what is the problem? why not release it? now there are doubts on whether the pings were from aircraft pingers or from something else. confidence is waning all the way

around. it can be reversed by simply finding the plane. >> finding one thing. keith, let me ask you, let me go back to the company, geo resonance who found that image in the bay of bengal. this week, the company released a statement. geo resonance has been informed by sources by the malaysian and australian governments that the precise location identified by the geo resonance in the bay of bengal, contrary to the reports, has not been searched by the bangladesh navy and will not be as the jacc are certain mh-370 is in the southern indian ocean. what is your biggest red flag here? >> the biggest red flag is the science, as they described it, the techniques they say they used, simply are unknown to those of us who do this for a living. if we could get a better

understanding of what they did. if they show their math in a way more comprehensive to date. they could develop more confidence. there is no known science to allow someone to look to the depth they say they searched with the aircraft that we know are available on the sensors that go on. it just isn't possible. >> mary, is there any intellectual property argument? we understand why inmarsat did not possibly release the data because the malaysians were at the head of the investigation. it was their intellectual property. is there any argument that could be made 70 days in why the malaysians would not release anything? >> inmarsat blew that argument. once they said they gave all of the data to the accident investigation, the guidelines are not law, they are guidelines. they are guidelines that our ntsb follows as well. once that data was given to the organization, then you have to

reasonably assume it will be released because the guidelines say at the end of the investigation, you should release all of the information. any proprietary claims are blown, especially since inmarsat said it was geometry. they used math and data. now you have to show your work just like we had to do in school. >> keith masback and mary schiavo, thank you for taking the time to be with us. >> thank you. still to come, the nba is moving ahead with a forced sale of the clippers. >> but the league is talking to shelly sterling about a voluntary sale? what is going on? we will talk about that. ♪ saturday, it's saturday ♪ yeah, yeah, yeah

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live pictures here from the stadium in amman, jordan. pope francis making his first trip to the holy land. 25,000 people at the stadium. his first official event of a trip to the holy land. three stops there in amman and the palestinian territory and ending in jerusalem. 13 speeches and several masses. we will follow that throughout this trip. >> look at all of those people. there he is on the big screen. his speaking will start in just

about 40 minutes. >> mass atop of the hour at 9:00 a.m. eastern. the shot clock is ticking down, so to speak, for donald sterling and ownership of the clippers. now he decided to switch strategies. donald sterling allowed his wife to negotiate the voluntary sale of the team. shelly and the nba have been in discussions about the matter. this news comes days before the tuesday deadline when sterling must respond to the termination ownership of the rights. >> the nba accused the sterlings and clippers of covering up the racist comments that he made, sterling made, on tape to v. stiviano. stiviano, of course, is the woman on wednesday, who denied that she was sterling's mistress. >> i have never had any type of sexual contact with mr. sterling whatsoever. >> did he make approaches? >> never did he ever come on to

me. what i meant by him being in love with me, i meant in love like a person, like a daughter. in love with me like he always wanted to protect me. i sometimes make bad choices and associate myself with bad people. >> what is next in the sale of the clippers and adam silver seems to have been negotiating the terms. we have gary roberts with us and joey jackson. defense attorney and hln legal analyst. both men are with us now. good to have both of you. >> good morning, victor. good morning, christi. >> good morning, gentlemen. gary, the nba owners are supposed to vote on june 3rd to strip donald sterling of ownership rights. does this vote change at all now that shelly, we understand, is already in negotiations? >> well, who knows.

if progress is being made, they may postpone the vote. they may not. that is a decision they have to make as the story unfolds. i think they will continue to have it scheduled. that is part of the pressure that is being brought on the sterlings to sell the team. the more pressure you are bring to bear, the more likely you can hurry up and get the deal done. >> joey, the times is saying if shelly sterling is not able to obtain partial interest in the team, that deal falls through. is that possible? >> you know, anything is possible, victor, as you know. i think the nba is committed to having anything sterling removed from the team, whatever it takes. i think it is a good development that they move forward and try to do it voluntarily. why? because it avoids all sorts of litigation. we are not in court for

anti-trust violations. we know he hired anti-trust attorney. that voids that. it voids the issue of the internal arbitration. they may not have to take a vote if things go according to plan. there is a lot still influx as it moves forward. it is moving rapidly, at the end of the day, victor, as long as the nba gets what it needs, them removed, the sterling not impairing their brand, the fans are happy and the sponsors are happy and owners are happy. that looks good. >> gary, earlier this week, the "l.a. times" talked about destroying evidence related to the recording. you think adam silver used that tactic to get sterling to concede control and give control to his wife? >> first of all, that is an inflammatory way of characterizing it. these remarks are simply embarrassing and stupid.

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this is cnn breaking news. >> well, a very troubling and frightening situation in california overnight. we are glad to have you with us. i'm christi paul. >> i'm victor blackwell. this holiday weekend turned into a deadly weekend in california. the college community of santa barbara was rocked last night. six people were killed in a drive-by shooting. >> the rampage happened in the town of isla vista. multiple shots fired from a black bmw. these are the first pictures we are getting from the scene. that black bmw allegedly sped through the city streets and the sheriff labeled the incident, quote, mass murderer. >> let's talk about that term. we have jeff gardere on the

phone. the investigators are still looking into other attributes and other possible pieces of evidence. a mass murderer. tell us someone who goes on a rampage for ten minutes, what it takes to go on and plan something like that. >> well, certainly someone who has a lot of rage, cold and calculated. from a what we have seen from previous profiles, these are individuals who blame society for being isolated, who have very poor social skills and see themselves as being superior, but cannot understand why they feel they are being rejected all the time. therefore, they are hellbent on revenge. at the same time, christi and victor, they do want to die. they want to commit suicide after they wipe out as many people as they can. >> jeff, i am wondering about

the folks who saw this, the witnesses and victims here. they are waking up after just thinking they will go out for a nice stroll on a friday evening at 9:30. you are in the middle of graduation for the college and in the middle of finals for this college. what would you say to people who are trying to recognize to people as they wake up what happened last night? >> the only thing we can tell them, of course, this is yet another episode in this sort of random violence we see. there is no way at this point from the patterns of all of these mass killers to actually predict when this might happen to a general population. we have to allow people to talk about what this feels like. they may not be feeling safe right now, but we have to let them know that they are safe at this particular time, but they have to talk about their

feelings, especially the families and people who are affected by this directly. >> sure. let's get back to this suspect. the sheriff described him -- not just as a mass murderer, but him as a mad man. they are looking at videos and written statements from that suspect. would somebody who does something like that be intent in documenting it prior to the incident? >> yeah. for the simple fact that what we know from these mass shooters is that they do want to let the world know how angry they are and how they feel superior and now will take their revenge. for a very long time, someone like this looking at the profile may have felt he was slighted, that people didn't like him and that he was considered less than and this is his way of now becoming a god by being able to

take lives just at his own whim. yes, this is a mad man. maybe not a mad man as in a schizophrenic, but a mad man who is a severe personality disorder and who has delusions of grandeur. >> jeff, let me ask you this, from the people around him, would there have been any outward signs he would have been planning this or anything people could have seen or picked up on in audio? >> this is the issue every time. we do see people again fitting the profile who may be isolated and may have poor social skills and who may not be able to interact in normal and healthy manner and who do feel they are victimized. we cannot take every single person like that and say they are going to become a mass murderer. i think what we have to do is

this thing called triangulation from family and friends and we see this is someone who is at risk for doing something extreme, especially if there is a slow, quiet, seething rage that seems to be developing as part of that person's personality. >> that is part of the investigation, as we know, in santa barbara county. jeff gardere with us as we cover the breaking news in the town of isla vista next to uc santa barbara where seven people are confirmed dead. that number including the alleged shooter. also seven people in the hospitals from traumatic injuries and gunshot wounds. these are the first pictures coming in from the scene. we have in studio with us hln analyst mike brooks. we will talk with him about the nine crime scenes. this is going to be my first question after the break.

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this is cnn breaking news. >> 20 minutes until the top of the hour now. we are following the breaking news out of isla vista, california. a small town next to the uc santa barbara campus where we know this morning from the santa barbara sheriff, bill brown, seven people are dead, including the alleged shooter who killed the other six and shot at least some of the seven who are also

in hospitals this morning. 14 people, including the shooter, some injury or death related to the incident. it happened at 9:30 west coast time last night. we have hln law enforcement analyst mike brooks with us here this morning. mike, my first question to you, this happened off campus. in isla vista near campus. do you think the shooter who we know is male, that's all we know. he chose to shoot off campus because he would have more freedom and ramp up the body count? >> absolutely. i have been in the area before. it is congested on a normal weekend, but on a holiday, school is getting out and there are a lot more people. that is the reason he chose this area if he wanted to wreck havoc on an area, it would be off campus. >> the fact it lasted ten

minutes. this guy driving around and able to get away from anybody who may have been trying to stop him for ten minutes. that's a long time. >> it does seem like a long time. you have to kind of find out exactly what is going on. gunshots. then you report people down. but he is mobile. it is not like it happened in one area. he is driving around. you have nine different crime scenes. that, in and of itself, will tell you this guy was on the move quickly before he was either brought down by sheriff's deputies or killed himself. he had a gunshot wound. they don't know if it was an exchange of gunfire with deputies. if you look at the car, the windshield is shot out. we don't know if a deputy killed him or he killed himself. it does seem like a long time, but for law enforcement to get a handle on that. when i was hearing, people were told to stay off the streets. they were not sure if it was a lone gunman or not. they believe he was acting alone

by himself. >> the sheriff said they recovered a semiautomatic handgun. that is all they detail. are you expecting we will hear more or surprised by a single handgun thus far? >> you can do a lot of damage with a single handgun depending on the capacity of the magazine or magazines he had. i'm sure with this many people, killed and wounded, he probably reloaded. when you are riding up on somebody in a car and shooting people on the sidewalk, shooting people through windows of shops there, you are very close proximity to the sidewalks. fairly narrow streets in isla vista. i'm not surprised at all. you know, we may find another gun, we may not. he probably had to reload a number of times. >> with 14 people shot, how do you go about getting all of those witnesses together and determining who you need to talk to and who you don't?

>> that's number one. notifying people who are injured and next of kin. people on the streets. i'm sure people who were there are more than happy to give information to law enforcement about what happened. the other thing we have to consider also, this person, the gunman. where does this person live? does he live on campus? does he live nearby? i can guarantee you as we speak, they are at his residence trying to find out exactly what the motive for the shootings were. >> there have been some reports of a second person in the vehicle. the sheriff says that this shooter acted alone. in your experience, does your experience tell you that there's usually another person there or it is a lone guy in a vehicle in a drive by? >> it depends on what is motivating this gunman. i usually see something like this and someone who is this troubled, something happened within the last 24-to-48 hours to just push this person over the edge to make this person act in this way. whether or not there was a person -- sometimes that doesn't

make a difference. was this person there and tried to talk this person out of what he was doing or planning to do with the mass shooting. the sheriff said he was acting alone. i'll go with the sheriff said and maybe this was a lone gunman. >> with nine crime scenes to reconcile, how long will it take and how much manpower? >> that whole downtown isla vista will be shutdown for some time. it will take a lot of manpower. i would not be surprised if the sheriff brings in the fbi and their evidence response team to help collect evidence because it is such a vast area outside of campus there. it will be a while before they collect all the evidence. >> we received the update that the department of justice criminalist will be involved as far as collecting and managing the nine crime scenes. the state highway patrol is involved. if you are just joining us and see the breaking news headline.

seven dead in a drive-by shooting in california. the town of isla vista next to the campus of uc santa barbara. a person in a black bmw, drove through the town of isla vista, shot and killed six people. he was also killed. the total dead is seven. seven others are treated for what we know is a collection of gunshot wounds and some traumatic injuries. we know that he was driving erratically. quite possibly some people were hurt in avoiding the car or hit by the car. we do not know that. we don't know much more of the suspect other than he is male or at least was male because he was found dead inside the vehicle. not yet sure. not sure if it was a gunshot wound self inflicted or if he was shot in i'll la visla vista. >> we know he was shot and he

crashed into a car. i know this was off campus, but because it is so close, will university of california santa barbara play a role in this? >> if he was a student, they will go back and look at all of his records and talk to his friends and associates. if some of those people have gone home for the summer, they will be able to contact them to see what was going on with this guy, if he was a student for the last number of days. if he had any psychiatric history. all very important to finding out exactly what happened. >> we know that nine crime scenes as we said, commencement weekend at ucsb is a couple of weeks away. 14th and 15th of june. that wasn't happening this weekend. the number could be higher if you consider the families that were in town. it is memorial day weekend. how long will that area be shutdown as they look for clues?

>> i would say the remainder of today. you have such a vast crime scene. businesses will not be open most likely because you had nine crime scenes. we looked at the navy yard shooter and he was going through the building and navy yard in washington, there were a number of crime scenes contained in the building. it was easier to work than it is out on the streets. >> we have been waiting to hear from the sheriff's department there in california. we are going to, as i understand it, just getting sound in from a press conference from the sheriff. we will play that for you here in just a moment. we will take a quick break. stay close and we will have that on the other side.

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this is cnn breaking news. >> thoughts are with the community of isla vista. seven people are dead. seven others in the hospital. one has been through surgery from life threatening injuries. this from a drive-by shooting. driving shooting, we should call it, the suspect was in his car. he was driving from street to street shooting people. we know he is one of those seven dead from a gunshot wound. we don't know if it was self inflicted or gunfire from the patrol officers who responded. let's get the latest from sheriff bill brown. >> i'm here to give you

information on the incident that occurred in isla vista at approximately 9:27 p.m., last night, the incident appears to be a mass murder situation. the timeline as we have been able to put it together thus far as follows, 9:27 p.m., the sheriff's dispatch center received calls of multiple gunshots fired in the isla vista area. we had deputies in the area on foot who heard a number of shots being fired. the deputies began responding in the direction of the gunshots and immediately found several victims who were suffering from gunshot wounds. as they were performing first aid on those victims, they were also receiving suspect information and a vehicle description. as this was occurring, additional shots were fired and

calls were received by the sheriff's dispatch from several areas in isla vista. during the initial stage, both the suspect and suspect vehicle descriptions were broadcast to those law enforcement personnel who were in the area. at 9:33 p.m., six minutes after the initial call was received, the suspect engaged a group of responding deputies with gunfire. the deputies returned fire and the suspect fled in his vehicle. seconds later, the suspect was again spotted by another deputy. another exchange of gunfire occurred at that time. the suspect fled down del playa and eventually crashed into a parked vehicle. the deputies approached the

crashed vehicle and determined that the suspect, within that vehicle was dead, from an apparent gunshot wound to the head. a handgun was recovered from the vehicle. we have preliminarily identified the suspect, we are not releasing the suspect's name until a positive identification can be made. >> that's sheriff bill brown from the news conference updating us on the breaking news in isla vista near the university of california santa barbara. mike, what do you glean from that? >> the first report of gunshots fired at one location, six minutes, deputies were encountering this guy and exchanging gunshots. he ran again. three minutes later, they exchange more gunfire with him with more deputies. it was a good response by law enforcement. you heard what he said. in that area at nighttime, they

have foot patrols and deputies in car. deputies on foot were going toward the sound of the gunfire and saturdtarted seeing people wounded and aiding them and shots at different locations. that is why nine crime scenes. i'm not surprised. >> i want to let you know if you just joined us, we will replay the sound from the sheriff in santa barbara county. >> if you are just joining us, seven people dead in the driving shooting that lasted about ten minutes. as mike talked about, nine crime scenes to analyze. this will take a while. mike saying you believe, mike, this area in isla vista will be shutdown for quite some time. obviously, we will -- as victor said, we will bring you the entire pressor from the sheriff bill brown there. they are really scrambling, i'm sure, trying to figure this out. we understand they are looking at video. they are looking at writings from this alleged suspect and

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