learn more at purinaone.com this is cnn breaking news. >> a premeditated mass murder. that is what the sheriff bill brown in california calls a frightening incident last night where seven people have now died. seven others are at a hospital right now after a man, a suspect, who is also dead, according to sheriff's deputies, drove through town in isla vista near uc santa barbara, and just started shooting people. it was chaos, as we understand.

people were screaming and this went on for ten minutes. >> we have someone on the phone who witnessed that chaos. daniel slovinsky. he is the editor of the campus news there. daniel, you were at a restaurant there. what did you hear? what did you see? >> i didn't see anything immediately. we all heard some shots somewhere between 9 or 15 shots. like most people. >> obviously, we just lost daniel there. guys, i know you will work to get him back on the phone. we have edwin perez, our justice correspondent. in front of the camera. good. we have reports from the sheriff's spokesperson there that the department of justice is getting involved in some way. how? >> one of the things that the police departments -- smaller police departments tend to call in the fbi or the atf or federal

agencies to help with the investigation because they have a lot of expertise in these scenes. one of the things that will be happening this morning when people can get there is they would go to the suspect's house and go to the family members and talk to them about what any indications there might have been in the last few days that something like this was going to happen. they would be looking for computer records, e-mail, telephone records, to indicate who this suspect may have spoken to and if there is anything written down. we know from the santa barbara sheriff's office that they are investigating a video, a youtube video, that may or may not have been done by the possible suspect. that is something that they will be going through. the fbi and federal law enforcement has a lot of experience in doing this kind of thing. it would be key to helping the santa barbara sheriff's office. >> evan, what do you know about the youtube video and why is it

of interest to them? >> we have taken a look at it. we are not showing it because we have to make sure that it indeed is matching up with what the authorities are looking at. it appears to be some manifesto. some kind of threat that this person was thinking of carrying something out. again, it fits with what the sheriff's office saying that it appears to have been some premeditation. this person was intending to kill. we know that he started shooting at 9:27 and he, you know, for the next ten minutes, carries out shootings. nine crime scenes the police are going through. luckily, because this is isla vista and this is a place where they had weekend troubles before in santa barbara county, it is something they had a lot of police presence on. it appears that local officers were able to get to the scene and to be able to exchange gunfire with the suspect very quickly. within six minutes, they started

exchanging gunfire with him. another three minutes later, he is dead. >> evan perez, our justice department correspondent there. stand by. we have someone on the phone who was a witness to the shooting. robert johnson. the daily chief of the daily newspaper on campus. robert, thank you for speaking with us. we are glad you are safe after this. tell us what you saw. >> i was standing on a street corner. i had heard, i guess, what sounded what i now know to be gunshots. at that time, i thought they were fireworks or firecrackers which is not an uncommon occurrence here. i was standing on the street corner and the black bmw turns through the intersection and goes away from me. about maybe two seconds later, i heard a pop. at first, i remember looking at the car and thinking it had back fired. which i remember thinking was

strange because it was such a new car and it happened again. by this time, it had reached outside of a restaurant and convenience store and the deli mart. there were maybe a group of six or seven people eating out in front of it. it stopped in front of it and opened fire upon the group. >> robert, did it seem to be targeting anybody or seem very random, the shooting? >> it all happened very quickly, but i think that this happened to be just a large group on the street. >> he was just aiming for the group? >> just a target because it was the largest group in the area. >> what was the response from the crowds there? was there screaming? did they start running? what did you see and hear from the people standing on the corner? >> i saw the people that were fired upon immediately they all

jumped up. many tried to run into the building. let's see, i don't recall hearing any screaming. then it was at that point i turned and ran in the opposite direction. >> so, can you help us understand what it is would like there right now. how are you feeling? how are people around you? >> i think there is a lot of confusion going on. i think even shortly after this whole ordeal had ended, i think a lot of people did not realize the magnitude of the situation. it hadn't been as contained, but it had been around a quarter of the isla vista area. >> robert, you said you saw the suspect shoot into a crowd. were any of those people shot on that corner or did he miss all of them? >> i can't say. i wasn't close enough to see.

let me correct. i was on the corner. i was looking down the street. >> okay. >> mike, you have a question. >> robert, could you see if the gunman was by himself or if he had anyone else with him? did he get out of the car or stay in the car when he fired on the group? >> i could not see into the vehicle. the windows were heavily tinted. no one exited the vehicle. >> okay. robert johnson, thank you very much. we may come back to you. again, we are glad you are safe. copy chief of the daily nexus there telling us about the deadly shooting just outside of the university of california santa barbara. we also have daniel slovinsky. he is outgoing editor of the newspaper there. you were starting to tell us the story of what you heard when we lost the call. you were at a restaurant and heard pops and screaming. what did you hear? >> yes.

just like robert, i was saying i heard some pops, but i just assumed it was fireworks like most other people. so, contrary to what you might expect, there wasn't a lot of chaos immediately. i did not hear any screaming. a few people were running. most other people didn't know why. it wasn't really until police started yelling at people to get inside that we realized something big went down. even then, people did not know what. i think robert is right when there was a lot of confusion rather than panic. i didn't even -- go ahead. >> go ahead. >> i didn't even really figure out exactly what happened until i started talking to some of the eyewitnesss myself such as robert. >> okay, you were talking to robert. what were you saying and what did you see, i guess, once things started to clear up and you were getting a picture of maybe how many people were shot or how expansive this crime

scene is? >> the first thing we were trying to figure out was how many people were injured and, you know, what exactly was going with this suspect. it seemed at the time that there were only maybe four at max, possible deaths. it was a huge shock to us when the police announced there were seven. we did also find out that the suspect, who is now of course confirmed to be dead, did get out of the vehicle somewhere around del playa drive. i believe one witness i talked to mentioned that he crashed while engaging with police and tried to get out of the vehicle. at which point he sustained a head injury. it is not clear right now if it was self sustained or whether the police shot him. >> let me say this, we have not at cnn have been able to confirm if the suspect got out of the vehicle and there was any head injury. we will work with the

spokesperson and the sheriff there in santa barbara county to make sure we get that right. daniel, also robert johnson, we want you to stand by. we want to get more from what you saw in isla vista. we will play in its entirely that news conference from santa barbara county sheriff bill brown explaining exactly what happened and how this investigation is moving forward into what the sheriff is calling a mad man who went on this premeditated mass murder spree. stay with us. i'm on expert on softball. and tea parties. i'll have more awkward conversations than i'm equipped for, because i'm raising two girls on my own. i'll worry about the economy more than a few times before they're grown. but it's for them, so i've found a way. who matters most to you says the most about you. at massmutual we're owned by our policyowners,

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isla vista. this morning, six are dead. >> sheriff bill brown characterizing this as a mass murder by a mad man. we want to get you to the press conference from a short while ago. here it is. >> this incident appears to be a mass murder situation. the timeline, as we have been able to put it together as follows, at 9:27 p.m., the sheriff's office received calls of multiple gunshots fired in the isla vista area. we had deputies in the area on foot who also heard a number of shots being fired. the deputies began responding in the direction of the gunshots and immediately found several victims who were suffering from gunshot wounds. as they were performing first aid on the victims, they were also receiving suspect information and a vehicle description. as this was occurring,

additional shots were fired and calls were received by the sheriff's dispatch from several areas in isla vista. during the initial stage, both the suspect and suspect vehicle descriptions were broadcast to those law enforcement personnel who were in the area. at 9:33 p.m., six minutes after the initial call was received, the suspect engaged a group of responding deputies with gunfire. the deputies returned fire and the suspect fled in his vehicle. seconds later, the suspect was again spotted by another deputy. another exchange of gunfire occurred at that time. the suspect fled down del playa and eventually crashed into a parked vehicle.

the deputies approached the crashed vehicle and determined that the suspect within that vehicle was dead from an apparent gunshot wound to the head. a handgun was recovered from within that vehicle. although we have preliminarily identified the suspect, we are not releasing the suspect's name until a positive identification can be made. currently, the sheriff's office is not looking for any additional suspects. we believe this suspect acted alone. this is still a very active investigation and as you can imagine, a very chaotic series of crime scenes. it is still in the very early phases of the investigation. we identified nine separate crime scenes within the area and multiple victims who were either shot or injured as a result of

apparently a result of the suspect's actions. seven victims are in area hospitals being treated for gunshot wounds or for traumatic injuries. at least one of those victims has undergone surgery for life threatening injuries. we currently have seven confirmed dead. that includes the suspect and six victims. we are in the process of identifying those victims and notifying their next of kin. we have obtained and we are currently analyzing both written and videotaped evidence that suggests that this atrocity was a premeditated mass murder. the sheriff's office is currently interviewing multiple witnesses to these crimes and we are asking for the public's

assistance. if there is anyone who has not yet been spoken to by law enforcement authorities, we would ask if you have information about this crime or series of crimes, if you would contact the santa barbara county sheriff's office tip line at 805-681-4171. i would like to acknowledge and thank those allied agencies who are currently assisting us in the investigation in addition to patrol and investigative personnel from the santa barbara county sheriff's office and assisted by the uc santa barbara department and california highway patrol and the district attorney investigators and by the california state parks law enforcement personnel and by criminalists from the department

of justice crime lab. i know this information that i'm giving you at this point is somewhat preliminary. we are going to work diligently to get you more information in detail, including the identity of the suspect and victims. the next press conference is going to be scheduled for 4:00 p.m. today at a location to be determined. we will notify you through our regular processes of where that press conference will be held. two things i just want to say in closing, the first is i want to commend the deputy sheriffs who engaged very resolutely this suspect shortly after we were notified of this incident. there is no question in my mind at this point their resolute actions and valor in doing so very well may have prevented further loss of life and injury.

i also want to let the families of the victims know that our hearts go out to them at this tragic time. we will be doing all that we can in the near future to try to identify the actual circumstances, the complete background information and so forth about the horrific series of events that occurred this evening. >> so right now, the investigation is in full force into who this suspect is and what his motive may have been and did he act alone. this, of course, as seven people lay in hospital beds this morning hopefully recovering and seven families dealing with they lost family members overnight. >> there are gunshot wound injuries and traumatic injuries. one person has already undergone

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this is cnn breaking news. >> a mass murder by a mad an man. that is how it is characterized.

a shooting overnight in california. a suspect driving through the streets of a college town, isla vista near uc santa barbara and just shooting at people. seven have been killed, including the gunman this morning, following that deadly drive-by shooting. the incident happened at isla vista, as i said, the town at 9:30 last night. the community was out walking and enjoying the restaurants and weather in the beach side town. >> it is a friday night in a college town. lots of crowds there. the sheriff called this a mass murder by a disturbed young man. we have the senior justice correspondent with us. how are the federal resources becoming part of the investigation, evan perez? >> the fbi is lending its crime lab. the atf is on the scene.

they are trying to see if they can trace the gun. and what they would be doing is try to figure out where the suspect would have gotten the gun. we don't know much more about that right now. it is something that i'm sure the officers on the scene and justice department officials on the scene are trying to figure out. obviously, according to the sheriff's office, there was some premeditation to this. the suspect appeared to be just going through isla vista and shooting at the crowds of people gathered there. right now, they are trying to figure out what would have drove him to do this. going through his tv records and computer records and doing any searches at his house. the key part here is the gun. try to figure out where he got this. >> so, evan, the sheriff said we are analyzing written and videotaped evidence that suggest the atrocity was a premeditated mass murder. do we know specifically what they are looking at and what has

caught their attention? >> one thing they are looking at is the video that surfaced. it may or may not be the possible suspect they are looking at. it appears to describe some motivation that this suspect was trying to carry out retribution of some kind. this is one of the issues the authorities are looking at today. they are looking at searches at his house to see if anything is on his computer and if he talked to anybody. any friends or family members who may or may not have been told he had some kind of mental issue or some motivation that he wanted to do something. this is obviously a terrible situation that developed last night in isla vista. >> evan perez, justice department correspondent. evan, thank you so much. we will take a quick break and be back with more of the breaking news. seven dead and seven in hospitals after the shooting in

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this is cnn breaking news. >> the breaking news this morning, seven dead, seven in hospitals after a drive-by shooting rampage in the town of isla vista, next to the university of california santa barbara campus. we are speaking this morning with people who saw and heard this shooting. we know that one of those seven is the alleged shooter who was in a black bmw. there are now reportedly nine crime scenes according to sheriff bill brown.

we have on the phone robert johnson. he works for the uc santa barbara newspaper. he witnessed the shooting. we heard from the sheriff, robert, there were nine crime scenes. from what you saw, did it look as if this was the start or the end of this rampage? >> i would say what i witnessed was about the middle. >> okay. and tell us what for people who were not with us when we spoke with you at last hour, what did you see and what did you hear? where were you? >> i was standing near the end of the corner of one of the busiest streets in the town. i saw a car drive down the street and stop in front of a restaurant/convenience store that had a large group of people. eight or so people gathered in front of it. stop in front of it and start firing into the crowd and into the store. >> robert, just to clarify, he actually stopped the car to shoot at these people?

>> i can't recall if he stopped -- came to a complete stop, but he slowed down from where he was going. >> were you told to go back inside this restaurant? were you told to stay inside? what did police tell you? >> i was maybe 200 feet away from the restaurant. i didn't actually hear anything from the police. as i realized what was going on, i ran into my friend's apartment who just happened to live on the corner there. >> robert, we are so glad you are okay. thank you. >> thank you. >> stick around with us, if you would. we want to get to john palmenteri. he is a reporter for keyt. >> i was at the scene after the shots went out last night. i was able to quickly get to where the officers had engaged gunfire with the suspect. eventually got to four different

locations, where sadly to say, there were fatalities. >> help us understand what was happening last night when you got there. what did you see and what did you hear? >> when i got to the scene, the scene i got to was where the bmw crashed into a curb into another vehicle and a body bag down in front of it draped in the yellow body bag and officers had an array of yellow tape out there and several other intersections. there must have been 30 different police and sheriff and university police units there. there were college students in shock at the scene at what they had seen there. also on the other streets, as you say, there were nine different crime scenes. this vehicle was in motion on a number of blocks in this densely populated college town. there are 20,000 students in a half square mile area there. the vehicle was not speeding through, not a speeding

drive-by. we were told it was a slow rolling drive-by. at times, there is one or more witnesses that believe the driver was trying to engage conversation with who might be the eventual victims. one instance, a bike down and two deceased people there. there was a heroic effort in front of a 7/11 convenience store where a girl got a bullet in her leg and employees grabbed her and dragged her back in. others from the street sought shelter. that is heroic with gunshots going on. at the same time, an engaged gun battle with the driver and sheriff's officers there and another block, a rolling gun battle was taking place there. that was unbelievable for people to see. >> a witness who told one of your reporters at keyt, it

resembled an old western shootout. john, for people who don't live in this town, give us an idea how far apart the crime scenes spread. >> they are probably spread over four blocks. four small community blocks. this is a college community with dorms and sorority and fraternity houses. it is adjacent to uc santa barbara. they are almost one in the same, but they are not jointly owned. they are close to the campus. densely populated. on a friday night, everyone is out on the streets and going house to house and parties. some of the community college students live out there as well. they had their graduation yesterday. they were especially celebrating when all this horrific violence took place. >> john, the l.a. times is reporting the suspect has been preliminarily identified, but they are not releasing that information until they make that

exact identification. what do you know about the suspect? >> we believe the suspect is a young male. they have not released his name. they are familiar with some videos and some writings that have been referenced by sheriff bill brown who is careful not to jump the gun on this. >> john, i'm sorry. i'm being told we want to make sure. there is a preliminary identification. we want to make sure you do not publicly say his name. he has not been positively identified. we wanted to make sure we did not get information out there that is yet to be released. tell us what else you know about him. >> i'm familiar with that because we don't want to jump the gun on this. the sheriff doesn't want to do that. we want to make sure that that is accurate. he did reference publicly there was a video and written evidence that they are looking at and

they are familiar with this may be a pre-planned attack as he described as a mad man. it is believed to be a young male that was behind all this. currently, we believe there is only one gunman involved here. there were some eyewitness accounts or possibly more than one. that, of course, sometimes happens in these confusing and horrific situations. >> john, we know seven people dead, including the suspect, alleged shooter here. also seven in the hospitals. any update on the injured? >> my understanding is that they are not all gunshot victims. that one was a bicyclist that was hit in the driving gun battle by the vehicle and has massive head trauma. they were calling on the scanners which i was carrying one personally and listening and

race together scene. multiple ambulances and rescue units to get to the victims and sort out. among the victims, i'm familiar with one that had a through and through gunshot wound to the leg. one to the arm. one got shot in the back. then the bicyclist that had the massive head injury as well. i'm familiar with those four injuries. i'm not updated on their conditions or treatment at santa barbara's cottage hospital. >> we know they are withholding their identities as well until next of kin is notified. >> john palminteri with keyt. we want you to stick around. we welcome the viewers around the world. we are broadcasting on the cnn international network. we are covering breaking news out of california out of a town of isla vista near the uc santa

barbara campus. seven people are dead and seven people are in the hospitals from gunshot wounds and others from traumatic injuries. the sheriff in santa barbara county describes him as a mad man who went on a premeditated mass murder spree. driving a black bmw through the beach side town shooting people. we know that seven dead and seven injured. we have on the phone with us, lou palumbo. lou, good to have you with us. what stood out to me is that this was a drive by. we covered countless school shootings and campus shootings and navy yard. that is a federal facility, but campus on its own. does that lend itself to someone targeting individuals or someone who wanted to ramp up the body count and move quickly? not on foot, but from a car.

>> my suggestion is his targets were more random. clearly in an automobile gives him the ability and it makes it more difficult for law enforcement to contain him. as we learned, containment is the major part of the exercise when we experienced these mass shootings. >> lou, one of the biggest, i think, obstacles or difficulties that you all are going to encounter is there are nine crime scenes here. how do you begin to process that? >> well, i would tell you immediately what i would do is request some mutual aid from law enforcement agencies. i have happened to work with the santa barbara sheriff's office on a couple of occasions. think are a very good police department. the exercise right now is do they are the resources and

detectives and ability to cumulatively address each crime scene. i would say it would be rather difficult for this agency. i would think they should ask the fbi, for example, and some municipaliti municipalities for assistance. they need one overseer from santa barbara. >> we know that california highway patrol is there. we also know that from our justice department reporter evan perez, there are criminalists from doj assisting with the scene. lou palumbo, we want you to stick around. we have on the phone john palminteri. he was there within minutes from the shootings. he is from keyt. both will stick around. we have new video from the scene at isla vista. we will bring that to you on the other side. stay here. , th season

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this is cnn breaking news. >> i want to welcome you to our coverage here of the situation in california. a sheriff is characterizing a mass murder by a mad man. we are talking about a slow rolling drive-by shooting that lasted ten minutes in isla vista. a small college town near santa barbara. seven people have died and seven people in the hospital right now. we know the shooter is dead as

well. >> nine crime scenes are being investigated. let's bring back lou palumbo. retired law enforcement agent. lou, talk about, if you would, the challenges of dealing with a public place. some of the people who may have some of the most valuable information might not be available and might not have stayed around. >> well, you know the first thing is they will need sufficient resources to cover nine crime scenes. in addition to that, they have to go to the shooter's home. they have to address computers or any correspondence. they need manpower and resources to sufficiently undertake this task. somebody mentioned early, california highway patrol. california highway patrol does not have an investigative branch

or arm to it. interestingly enough. their primary function to control the roadways and traffic situations. when they have any type of criminal activity, they have to call the local jurisdiction to help. we will see mutual aid. they should call in the fbi. the fbi has the crime labs and forensic specialists. they need a lot of help in the form of resources. if you look up santa barbara's police department, it is not particularly large. that, in itself, lends itself to a problem. unlike new york city that has the luxury of throwing bodies at problems like we have seen in 9/11 and other incidents. >> when we hear the sheriff saying they are analyzing written and videotaped evidence that suggests this was a premeditated mass murder. how long does that take to get

through the written and video evidence before you can definitively get answers? >> a matter of minutes. if they had the opportunity to review some type of video that was made, what he specifically outlined his intention in the means in which he would carry it out and why, you would have minutes. the minute you get it in your hands. it depends on what the shooter left in the aftermath of the incident. if it is immediately accessible to law enforcement and creates a definitive outline to the intention and why, you have a lot right there. the problem still remains that what was the motive in the shooting. sadly, we are back to the common denominator, which is mental illness and the issue we need to have some different type of process before people were allowed to obtain weapons like this. for everybody's information, california has some of the most

restrictive firearm laws in the country. dianne feinstein leads the charge on this. the simple problem exists in this matter. you can walk into a gun store in the state of california, show your driver's license. if you haven't been convicted of a felony, they'll give you a handgun. therein lies part of the problem. we need to address the whole means and process in which you're able to obtain these weapons. >> all right, lou palumbo, retired law enforcement agent, joining us this morning, as we cover the news out of isla vista. lou, thank you very much. and lou mentioned searching the video, searching the writings of the alleged suspect. the sheriff there in santa barbara county, bill brown, answered a question from a reporter during his news conference about just that. we've selected that portion, we're going to play it for you now.

>> we have videotaped evidence and we have written evidence that appears to have been completed by the suspect. >> would that videotaped evidence include the video titled [ bleep ]. >> [ bleep ] we're investigating to determine that at this time, but it would appear that that is connected with this crime. >> all right. so bleep you heard was the name that was mentioned of the suspect. we're not playing the name, because the sheriff's office did not initiate that. that was from a reporter. and we want to make sure that they name this person before we name the person. >> we do, mm-hmm. >> we have with us mary ellen o'toole, former fbi profiler. and, you know, as we look to what happened, and now possibly this video connection, tell us about the type of person, and what it would take to, first, document the plan, post it online, and then go forward with it? what is your experience taught

you? >> well, my experience with these cases is that these are not impulsive acts. these are not crimes that just occur spontaneously. so there is a lot of thinking that goes into it. and in some cases, it can take years to develop that mindset that "i hate the world, the world has done me wrong, i need to take srevenge." and that brews over years. so i think that's why everybody is saying that these crimes are premeditative. there's a lot of planning that goes into them. the planning may take a couple of weeks, but the thinking that is associated with it, in my experience, that can take years to develop. >> all right, mary ellen, please stay with us. we have to take a quick break here. but again, if you're just joining us, seven people are dead, seven in the hospital after what is being described as a slow-rolling drive-by shooting last night in the college town of isla vista near uc santa

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minteri who is with affiliate kynt. what do we know about the suspect and the search for any information that could lead them to a motive? his home. his social media. his family and friends. >> i think they are going to try to retrace back, without officially naming the suspect at this time, look at all of those documents they claim to have in the video that has been widely distributed, although, again, he is unnamed, and try to retrace back what started all of this, what caused this mental mindset to go on this rampage, and who he was targeting. it looked like it was -- it was random, but there may be some indication that -- that there's more specific means of why he was out shooting last night. i can tell you they have a number of investigators from nearby agencies coming in, and they're going over crime scene, tracking the path of the shooter, the number of bullets

fired, and whether he had verbal contact with anyone, of which we have eyewitnesses who have confirmed that. there was verbal contact before shots were fired in some of the instances. and then, they'll be able to piece this together. but, as you say, there's 14 families that are going to come here today, and they're going to have a very horrible experience to try and resolve this. >> all right, john paulminteri, with keyt. thank you. we have mary ellen o'toole, evan perez, we need to get more into the specifics of what happened, where the investigation goes from here. but again, seven people are in the hospital. they are not being named in terms of who they are until next of kin is administered. of course, the seven people who are dead, next of kin is being talked to, as well. so we'll bring all of that to you in just a moment. more from california in just a moment. stay close. she keeps you on your toes. you wouldn't have it any other way.

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